are they out of their minds?
>>24729522>but littleThe entirety of christian theology is just one giant attempt to reconcile each of the four gospels' christologies plus the entire old testament, using middle and neoplatonismThis is expected since the bible was written by countless different authors, some of which don't even claim to be inspired. The Qur'an on the other hand is just one book by one author
>>24729526>The Qur'an on the other hand is just one book by one authora crappy author, unlike Bible/Gita
>>24729498They are indoctrinated from childhood.according to some study muslims are so indoctrinated that their iq significantly dips between their early teenage years and early thirties when they start to think for themselves
>>24729498The baghavad gita is just a war propaganda story to convince shit eating indians to kill each other. It's really not that remarkable
>>24729600muslim detected, muslim ignored
>"I invented literature"
>>24729302Hell, I'll read a comfy gnome novella this Halloween. I support straight male writers unlike the bipoc tranny that mades this thread
>>24729330gnomevella
The excerpts from his autobiography were some of the best new literature I’ve read in years
>>24729302At least he's written a book. Two, if you want to count his autobiography. What the fuck have you done lately?
"High School Girlfriend" editionPrevious: >>24707466/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQRESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvCPlease limit excerpts to one post.Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.Follow prompts made below and discuss written works for practice; contribute and you shall receive.If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.Violent shills, relentless shill-spammers, and grounds keeping prose, should be ignored and reported.(And maybe double-space your WIPs to allow edits if you want 'em.)Simple guides on writing:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
"I think 90% of women at one point or another have been assaulted. Most of these dudes are rapists walking around."Steven rolled his eyes, and sipped on his beer. He preferred Modelo but Coors Light was what they brought for the fishing trip."Listen,"Steven stood up and cracked his back. His sciatica had been acting up that week. He listened to the birds in the background as his friend Joe lamented a monologue on power dynamics with different genders in their current society. The Eastern Phoebe (Saynoris Phoebe) whistled sharply in the background, it's "Wheeew, pst pst" looping every few moments as the call of the red-winged blackbird (Agelaius phoeniceus) let out a robotic screech that harmonized with the 'Wheews" of the Say Phoebe. A Northern Flicker (Colaptes auratus) shrieked with its 'Wicka-Wicka' causing an abrupt halt to the wandering of Steven's mind, he looked back to Joe and saw the ice cubes in their mini-cooler moving around as his hand grabbed a cold beer."Hey, you want one?"With Joe's hand still sloshing in the cooler, Steven shook himself and flicked the guide on his rod up, tightened the grip on his line with his index finger and looked backed towards the water."Yeah, just toss it on the chair."He took his rod and pulled it behind him, flicking his wrist at the pond and letting his finger release from the line, the lure attached to the top of his line flew through the air and they both watched it before it let a 'Blip' sound when it hit the water. Steven flipped the guide back down and looked at the beer in his chair, smiling."Now listen, the quarterback at Brigham Young was falsely accused - I'm talking about one specific incident."Steven grabbed the beer in the drink pouch of the chair and finished it, tossing it on the ground next to him before putting the dripping new one into the holster.Joe smiled and looked at his rod, turning his head towards the water. His bobber still floating as a row of Wood Duck (Aix sponsa) swam towards the bank next to them. He moved his feet inside as the ducks started to come ashore, flapping their wings and letting out small quacks, each member of their family coming to the grass."That's not the point bro, these quarterbacks can do whatever they want - how do we really know he didn't do that shit. It goes back to that power shit."
>>24729219Joe cracked his fresh beer and let out a small burp, he wondered if there was any venison left in the freezer at home, the sun was beginning to take its toll on his skin."Well, he beat the case. They said he wasn't guilty."Steven responded and cracked his beer, the bubbles simmering from the top as the 'pssssst' echoed amongst the birds calling to each other in the background."True, but what's a Jew doing at BYU?"They smiled at each other and clinked their beers, looking back towards the pond. Neither of their lines had moved."Yeah, I guess if you're gonna lose you gotta find some kind of fulfillment. That's crazy."A whistling sound had both of them turn their heads, a goldfinch (Spinus tristis) flew past them - it's yellow flashing before their eyes."They say those fuckers are good luck.""Yeah, good luck on the train to fucking nowhere."Their bobbers flapped as the wind came down on the water, ripples in the pond as the sun let the water sparkle back at them. Steven saw his line tug slightly, the goldfinch had found a branch nearby and began to whistle again.Something I write a while ago slice of life stuff any critique welcome
>>24723719That purse, anon. Slung hanging off the bedroom doorknob, tassel ends dragging on the floor whenever the door's opened or shut. Have fun with that>>24723690Roll
>>24729222>>24729219If you publish this you will lose readers because of the real world politics. Those that wouldn't mind it (the ones who agree with the position put forth in the story) won't read about two men fishing.
>>24729207Thanks anon, this is alot better criticism. Ive already revised this draft alot but ill take your critiques into account.
Every times I jerk off to some sick perverted stuff, I always picture Marquis De Sade in my head and that would make it more pleasurable. It is as if I've finally found my people. Which are the perverts and the morally dubious people.I feel like I've been getting more and more worse after I read 120 days of Sodom. I've meet so many perverse people over the past few months, most of them women, and that make me realized how sick their minds actually are. They're no better than men.What should I read to cleanse myself of these filthy thoughts?No, I won't read Bible.
>>24729573Read the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
>>24729595I don't see how that would cleanse me, why is it always religious text with you Christian larpers? Most of you live in such an immoral live but have the audacity to tell other to follow Christ like you? I'll let you know that nothing turn me on more than to see a Christian girl being sexually corrupted. hypocrite fuck.
>>24729573Sade's good because he's imaginative enough to take things to their ultimate conclusion but also shows that the ultimate conclusion of life in the goon chateau is a kind of endless fruitless repetition that doesn't lead anywhere. The mysteries become familiar and mechanical.>What should I read to cleanse myself of these filthy thoughts?Just read any good novel from the history of English literature if you want to refresh yourself with purer air. I recommend The Rainbow by DH Lawrence.
Hello /lit/. I'm about half done with a zine I've been putting together. It's a sort of cynical, disillusioned technofuturist zine. Would anyone want to contribute any writing or pages to this? Post them here and I'll add them in. Topics we've discussed are:Fully automated laborPost-matrix interfaceIntentional degradation of image boards/online communitiesBlock chainSelf-programming through learningAnd more but I'm shitting and can't think.Post images, pages of content, bodies of text or just anything you'd want to contribute. As long as it's somewhat similar themed for what we're going for, we will include it. Let it be schizo, philosophical, critical, uneducated, educated, let it all be here.
The only people who post writing here are the cognitively-questionable capuchins throwing shit in the web novel general.Why would anyone want to submit their work to you, anyway?
>cynical, disillusioned technofuturistOh, how drole
>>24727950TECHNOPROTESTS KICKING RELIGION OFF THE LAWN // I'M THE UNIVERSE WITH STANDARD ISSUE COMBAT BOOTS ON
>>24727950>It's a sort of cynical, disillusionedHow original>technofuturist zineDaring today aren't we?
>>24727950>Post-matrix interfaceWhat is this
>trying to touch grass and meet people in the real world>library in my neighbourhood has a book club>this month's book is YellowfaceI'm going in
>>24729078If you don't oppose capitalism you're just a liberal.
>>24728778lel
>>24726896Zizek is a very prominent leftist that's skeptical of idpol.
>>24727935Her face looks like it was smashed in by a shovel
>>24725889>Her maternal grandfather fought for Chiang Kai-shek.No good. Facist. As expected of the nepo baby private school ivy league types she is.
My literary analysis class textbook has a section on feminism and it begins with two and a half pages of based quotes from famous authors.
>>24724888why is a quote about plato attributed to plato? are these people retarded?
>>24725446>>24725542From the Life and sayings of Amma Sara of Scete:"Another time, two old men, great anchorites, came to the district of Pelusia to visit her. When they arrived one said to the other, ‘Let us humiliate this old woman.’ So they said to her, ‘Be careful not to become conceited thinking to yourself: “Look how anchorites are coming to see me, a mere woman.” ’ But Amma Sarah said to them, ‘According to nature I am a woman, but not according to my thoughts.""She also said to the brothers: It is I who am the man, and you are the woman."
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>>24724888Been looking for "the best of historical misogyny" like this for years. I seem to remember some website like 15-ish years ago with a very similar compilation. The main one that I remember is some Roman (one of the Catoes?) who lamented the very fact of woman's existence, intellectually we would like to be rid of them altogether but we're wired to like their bodies and we're stuck with them, simple remarks along those lines. Also some spicy remarks from Sade, I think. Would be curious if anyone can pinpoint the initial item I seem to remember (and am probably mis-remembering).
When I was young I would have called it misogyny, now that I'm wiser I know it is gynognosy.
Has anyone ever written about similarities between contemporary leftist narratives on "white supremacy" and Hutu narratives regarding the Tutsis? Anyone had the slightest idea? Just me?
>>24728743>okay people are saying these things but you actually think they mean it???There's no way this is what you're sticking with
>>24728763>some people have lost their jobs over such an accusationIn America yes, because we have zero meaningful labor protections and a large population of vindictive tattletales, not exclusive to ether side.>What?Really everyone is guilty of some level of racial tribalism. My only point of reference is American whites.>No, but I do have similar ideas regarding leftist oppression narratives, according to which minorities as suffering from a spectral form of racism that is systemic and pervasive, painting their struggle as one for existence against a force that wants them dead. You can generally see this expressed by minority groups.Whether the racism itself is real or imagined, there are objective differences in the quality and outcome of your life in America based on your zip code. There are neighborhoods with life expectancies in the 60's and those well in excess of 90. Most of these neighborhoods are black and latino, but many of them are white. The whiggish liberal media class is unwilling to engage with any demands for economic reform, and will instead just pay lip service to the minority side since in their mind those groups have an excuse to be poor while the poor whites are just idiots who didn't work hard enough.Of course, the reactionary side of the media class is happy to shepherd the disaffected working class whites into their own petty racial tribalism while they pursue economic policies that further immiserate them.
>>24728795>In America yesNot just in America, no. You can find examples from the UK, Australia, and even Iceland, whose labor laws are considered to be some of the best in the world. Or so I've heard.>Really everyone is guilty of some level of racial tribalism. My only point of reference is American whites.I'd actually say that whites are the least tribalistic. Of course, you could also just say that they do not "need" to be or that their tribalism is more covert and unconscious. But yeah, people cling to identities, from sexuality to classes. Why? Because it satisfies their cravings.>Whether the racism itself is real or imagined, there are objective differences in the quality and outcome of your life in America based on your zip code.I am sure. I am also sure that minorities might suffer from bias in some places. We can talk about that, it's fine. We can teach people respect. The thing is that when you bring up racism the way many left-leaning intellectuals have been doing, you end up raising the stakes somewhere into the stratosphere. Everything becomes a vicious death-struggle against an absolute enemy, and it is not too dissimilar, in my opinion, from how the Hutus would describe Tutsis. I can understand how this might put people into a particular mental space. I'm not saying, however, that this will lead to genocide. I do however find this to be no less vicious. But hey, I cannot do anything. People are irrational animals who seek mainly to satisfy their meaningless desires.
>>24728731That was the point anon, that was always the point. The only people who don't realise this are useful idiot "academics" women mostly this time around
>>24728746 spongebob meme where he reveals progressively larger hoards of diapers, each hoard covering major european wars, the 26 ww2 deaths in the soviet union, with the last hoard outside the pineapple being the global % of europeans dropping from 25% pre ww2 to 9% today
What's your favorite Hemingway novel (or short stories collection) ?
>>24728761Haven't seen the sun also rises here yet, one of the most pleasurable reads one can get.
>>24729467I must be loyle to my capo
>>24728761The Sun Also rises (Fiesta) is my favourite but I have a soft spot for both Across The River And Into The trees and The garden Of Eden.
>>24728761Men without women is fantastic.
>>24728761I've only read The sun also rises and For whom the bell tolls. I prefer the latter slightly, both are good but not personal favourites.
If you want a long, detailed fantasy series that has tons of lore, monsters, magic, gods and whatnot, you can't beat this. The heroes feel virtuous and the villains make you hate them. 10/10 fantasy series here and there's thirty-two books to delve
>>24729109>Lone WolfI kneel, oldfag-sama.The sovl in that series.I still don't know how are you supposed to figure out the killer in the first book.>>24701904I gotta make a thread for rpg rulebooks (from a literary perspective)...
>>24701904>10/10 fantasy series hereI really hope that's nostalgia speaking. I'm in my 40s and I read the shit out of Salvatore in my early teens and loved it at the time (coincidentally also the only time in your life you should be reading shit like this) but objectively speaking, it's solidly average and not much more. The prose is nothing special, the plots are aggressively generic D&D tropes, and none of the characters undergo any sort of development despite the dozens of books in the series. I gave up on it somewhere in the mid-2000s.The Drizzt and companions you meet in the first book are the same ones you meet in any of the books. You could read the first couple books and then skip ahead to the 15th book and find the same characters behaving the same way having the same episodic D&D campaign style adventures. I can't think of a more blatant example of an author striking gold with a popular character and inventing endless, unnecessary stories featuring them in order to keep the money rolling in.And by endless, I mean endless:>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._A._Salvatore_bibliography#Forgotten_RealmsDrizzt first showed up in 1988 and since then, Salvatore has averaged a little better than a new Drizzt book every year. From 1988 to the most recent book in 2023, he has written forty (40!) Drizzt books. Forty books in 35 years. It's just slop at that point. There is no story being told here, no overarching plot, no end in sight. Just churning out shit to keep the paychecks coming.If you read it as a kid and enjoyed it then that's great - so did I. But if you think it's anything close to 10/10 then you very badly need to read more.
>>24729438>rpg rulebooks (from a literary perspective)I've been meaning to read the old Cyberpunk rulebooks out of interest in the lore rather than any delusions of getting a game together. >>24727918A friend has tried to get games going in a nearby city a few times over the last few years and has finally given up on finding a worthwhile group. I haven't played since the last time I joined one of his sessions.
>>24713694>>24713698>>24713702I've read a bit of a Gor book and some similar ones. The one thing I want to see in this series is Earthlings realize that these kidnappings are happening and then a modern military goes in and just slaughters the counter earthers.
>>24729504>I've been meaning to read the old Cyberpunk rulebooks out of interest in the lore rather than any delusions of getting a game together.Me too. But it's kinda tough.I'm slowly reading picrel after wanting more stuff like Vermis and it's fairly bad.Vermis was already written by an ESL, but Sybaroum is a translation from Swedish.I checked the Forgotten Realms campaign set, but I've seen something along the lines of "this doesn't work like in Greek mythology" which absolutely breaks the immersion, so I'm shelving it till I have something else to read.I'm thinking of picking up The Dark Eye, since I've played Drakensang when I was little and it was fucking heavy in terms of mechanics (hopefully it's gonna be heave on lore too).
This is better than Ulysses
>>24727810I genuinely believe Joyce wrote Finnegans wake as a prank. He saw all those literary critics and phd professor over analysing ulysses, a book full of fart and poop jokes, and so made a book who feels like a parody. So ridicolously obscure, and see all these "expert" waste their life interpreting his gibberish. If im right he's the chaddest chad if all literature
>>24729114>If im rightNah, just retarded.
>>24729114You’re just too lazy to put any effort into reading it despite the resources at your fingertips when it’s easier to just dismiss out of hand as le joke
>>24729130>>24729247>you WILL read the poopoo joke bookI'll pass. My time is better spent learning russian to read Dostoevsky the way it was meant to be read
>>24729547Yes, Dostoevsky is RSL tier entry level Russian lit.
What is some dark academia literature?
>>24722096The Secret History
>leaves are changing>sweater weather>cool enough in the evening to run the fireplaceYes, I love this time of year.
Dark academia? More like dork academia
>>24723051>cultural appropriationit's insane having witnessed mentally retarded moralfags win a culture war so decisively that this phrase is used unironically. I'm sorry I let you down anon
>>24729572Kill yourself for bumping up this trash thread from page 10
Has anyone on here actually read this bullshit?So let me get this straight: he joins Communist Party USA in the 1920s out of his own nihilism and hatred of the world, gets suckered into being a paper boy in the alleged communist underground, then his wife refuses to get an abortion which causes him to change his values entirely and abandon communism only to become a rat for the US government? Am I missing something here?Were Americans in the 1950s really that fucking gullible they can't see how his story is full of holes?
>>24718112>pro-life is the new punk rock
>>24723321just document their stupidity into a digestible format
>>24723448What did she do?Also, Jews made up something like 40% of CPUSA members back in the day:
>>24729136That actually sounds like opposite of what he would want.
>>24719409>but it was more like a whole total world and people would pack up their shit and move across the country if the party told them to do it.Sounds like the bullshit cultists like Bob Avakian would foist upon his followers
The wikipedia article on Asperger syndrome says those who have it have poor prosody.But isn't dependence on prosody for conveying information really a sign that the language is poor? When I say language I mean in the sense of English, Latin etc are languages.When I asked chatgpt about prosody it gave this as an example of what prosody is.>How the voice rises at the end of a sentence to indicate a question:>"You're going to the store?"In English you can change the word order to indicate a question, but nevertheless this is an example chatgpt gave, and something people often do, to use this word order and yet mean it to be a question. However in Latin this is not a problem because Latin originally didn't even have the question mark, but instead used the suffix "-ne". A question mark is in writing only, it does not transfer to speech, just like a comma. You don't say out loud "question mark" or "comma", but rather this is conveyed by prosody, in the example above by rising voice.My point is that while the question mark often requires prosody to convey its meaning in speech, the suffix "-ne" does not. And it's the same thing with comma, Latin didn't originally have the comma, and it doesn't transfer to speech other than through prosody. Instead Latin conveyed the meaning through other means such as suffixes which you have in speech just as much as in writing, ie there is no need for prosody to communicate a suffix.Given that English relies on prosody to convey the equivalent in speech in many instances where there is question mark and comma in writing, and given that Latin didn't even have question mark and comma originally, and both before and after the addition of question mark and comma to Latin it does not require neither these forms of punctuation, nor their speech counterpart which is prosody, I'd say that Latin a) is less dependent on prosody than English, b) is a richer language, and c) English uses punctuation and prosody to try to make up for its poverty.
>>24727314>But isn't dependence on prosody for conveying information really a sign that the language is poor?That's like saying "isn't dependence on standing upright a sign that dancing is poor?" Prosody precedes language, and is even a prerequisite for the latter. Language is verbal, rhythmic, not written. Writing is the tip of the iceberg. In fact writing is practically a modern technology compared to the spoken word with its stressed syllables.
>>24728652>That's like saying "isn't dependence on standing upright a sign that dancing is poor?"No, it's not. You didn't read the sentence immediately following that where I clarified exactly which sense of the word "language" I was using, or you didn't understand it, either way you're making no sense, and you are contradicting yourself in your post.>When I say language I mean in the sense of English, Latin etc are languages.But anyway I can't be bothered to analyze your mess of a post. Instead I'll just get right to elaborating on what I meant.>Prosody precedes language, and is even a prerequisite for the latter. Language is verbal, rhythmic, not written. Writing is the tip of the iceberg. In fact writing is practically a modern technology compared to the spoken word with its stressed syllables.You don't get my point at all. Prosody is not just any kind of pronunciation or speech. Some examples of where spoken English is dependent on prosody to convey meaning where spoken Latin is not:a)>Let's eat, grandma. (long pause)Avia edamus. (avi-A)>Let's eat grandma. (short pause)Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>retard blames the world because he doesn’t fit in instead of just not being retarded
>>24727519>Wikipedia likes to fabricate shitLike Asperger's syndrome.
>>24728842Possibly the thing I love the most about having studied logic is the fact I used to read comments like this and be hurt and confused, but after studying logic I read comments like this and just chuckle to myself a little as if observing a silly child, seeing straight through the lack of logic.
What is up with zoomers and Dostoevsky? It's getting downright cultish
>>24720925Poor and middle class people trying to act cultured and high class across mediums.It's why the whole stealth wealth trend popped up in fashion where people where buying loro piana and brunello cucinelli look a likes, everyone is suddenly superfans of kubrick and tarkovsky etc.Philosophy, economics, politics and the esoteric occult are still mostly off limits because retarded brains cant even larp process it
>>24720925>did you know that... PEOPLE AGED 15 TO 30 ARE READING ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR AUTHORS IN HISTORY?how about both you and the journalists that write these piece of shit asinine articles just shut the fucking fuck up
Don't know where to post this so I will post it hereDemons/The Possessed finale is amazing if you don't skip the censored chapter, even deeper portrayal of nihilism and self-destruction than TBK or Notes since "nihilists" in these books are more of a sad loser rather than a completely broken person like Stavrogin. I'm sorry I thought of it as a ghastly rigmarole but at least half of the book still takes fortitude to get through it because some chapters are not like the others. The pacing is anything goes.
>>24721671this post made me angry
>>24721289This actually happened to me. From experience, I will tell you - cut all ties and SUFFER. Mourn the loss of her, as if it was her death. It will suck and hurt for about 2-3 years, but it will eventually go away and make you a stronger man.
