Adventures in cLITERARY EROTICS and concrete poetry, with a touch of philosophy (not too hard and not too soft). Post your literary thoughts about literature.Did you read the Story of O? Have you read Trotsky's Permanent Revolution? Are you on a line of flight? U gettn dat territory DG BB?Post it and we vibin'.
>>25378649based de berg posterjk not sure hes a good writer really
I want all of you out there to shut up.I'm going to live the ways we want to live.What do you want of me now?Liver, blood, guts?The only thing left is madness.You too’re gonna drive yourself to the pits:You're gonna walk on coals through blazing fires:You're gonna drink down the world's most painful poisons:That's what wanting love is.My man isn't like other men.He can keep you in prison.He can make you do anything.I know why all of you want him.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
I put my baguette in her croissant and i pee out my butt.sweet literature board.
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> The figure of the Stoic is really nothing more than a hollow theoretical puppet - and Stoicism itself is a philosophy that would be best ignored.> In the face of great suffering, the healthiest response is clearly to weep, to cry out, to groan, to implore the pity of God or of other human beings.> The literary records show that the knights of the Middle Ages shed tears without restraint at the deaths of their comrades. Indeed, it was only from the beginning of the 20th century - and especially in English-speaking countries - that the compulsion to repress one's emotions took hold, at the same time as the idea that death must be concealed from view, and for the same reasons.> In the end, then, dignity has only one function - though it is a huge function. It legitimises the constant practice of the most perfect selfishness.From a new essay against euthanasia:https://unherd.com/2026/07/the-euthanasia-of-the-west/
>>25384837>even more boomer drivel, now wrapped in conservatard sheenHe just can't stop, can he? Annihilation came out in '22, it was pure slop and barely finishable, and 4 years later he's still doing this exact bit. And paywalled too, on top of it...I wouldn't mind it half as much if he'd at least be honest and let it be known for what it truly is - his own fear of dying, instead of trying to pass it off as le concern for le west and le humanity etc.
>Anyone who has ever written — or even merely attempted to write — knows that however difficult it may be to explain why, it is sometimes possible to express in writing realities inaccessible to speech. And anyone who has truly written knows something sadder still: what one actually manages to write will only ever be the merest trace of what one dreamed of writing. Even someone as monstrously productive as Balzac acknowledged as much: the books we have written are less beautiful than those we imagined writing. Speech is only a fraction of writing, which is itself only a fraction of our inner life. To reduce the human spirit to its capacity for oral communication is, quite simply, dumb.He's saying that in opposition to people who'd rather die than become a vegetable. The argument, it seems to me, is that even without manifesting anything to the world (speaking, writing, moving...) it may be valuable to continue living, as our inner lives are richer than what we express. This reads beautiful, but in practice I see becoming a vegetable akin to have an indefinite sleep paralysis. Idk, maybe silence is more valuable when we can choose to be quiet instead or foced to it.
>>25385822>I wouldn't mind it half as much if he'd at least be honest and let it be known for what it truly is - his own fear of dying, instead of trying to pass it off as le concern for le west and le humanity etcBased.
>>25385912>I wouldn't mind it half as much if he'd at least be honest and let it be known for what it truly is - his own fear of dyingHis subjective motives don't affect the objective power, or lack thereof, of his arguments.The case against euthanasia is:1. Killing one's own people is a bad habit for a government to get into. The terminally ill won't be the last to die.2. Minds change. Someone who wants to die today may think differently tomorrow--but not if he's dead.3. Supposedly incurable conditions are progressively being cured. 4. Care for the suffering, like bravery in the face of suffering, doesn't exist without suffering. The sum total of compassion would be diminished if we murdered those to whom we might otherwise extend it. 5. It does fly in the face of most religions, Buddhism included. Instituting practices (fatal ones, at that) in the teeth of multitudes who consider it against their faith leads to social disruption.6. The /pol/ objection. The group with the highest rate of suicide are white males. The group with the lowest are black females. Euthasia is just another woke mask for white genocide.
>>25384837>>25385273He clearly hasn't read even introductory stoic philosophy and is erroneously extrapolating the modern sense, of 'toxic masculinity', onto the original philosophy. Then he summarises the, woefully, outdated and incorrect History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, by saying 'the Roman empire fell due to the rise of Christianity'. Why should I take seriously anything he has to say on topics like this when his world view is so self serving and out of touch with reality?
"The Light Pours out of Me" editionPrevious: >>25373491/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQRESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvCPlease limit excerpts to one post.Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.Discuss the written works below for practice; contribute, and you shall receive.If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.Shitposters should be ignored and reported.>Beginner guides on writing:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHdzv1NfZRMComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
So I started posting short stories. I'm getting basically 0 response so I think I'll probably have to post serials or at least try for a novella. I was trying to get my feet wet without posting a whole novel but it seems pointless at this rate.
>>25386385There are as many ways to write as there are writers.
>>25386674>education works in every field except writingsure buddy
>>25386741>Being this retarded Get out of your house
>>25386795read a book
>Bloom would butter them up. To Ashbury: “If you are not a Poet Absolute, then none now exists.” To Cole: “There is no poet now writing in English under the age of 60 who is your equal.” To Ammons he wrote that he kept an upstairs and a downstairs copy of his “Selected Poems” because “every house should have two Ammonses.” Bloom would sometimes offer to send along his own work, appending a falsely modest line such as: “Will mail you a copy for your fireplace.”>Every so often, he’d request something in return for his attention. He asked both Ammons and Cole to dedicate poems to him. “I may not be remembered for anything I’ve written,” he told Cole, “but I’ll be remembered for a few of the poems that have been dedicated to me.”>Here is a snippet of a 1970 letter to Ammons, written when Bloom was approaching 40, about the woes of calorie counting: My temper worsens as my diet continues. I’m trying to make it each 24 hours on a steak, three hard-boiled eggs, vitamin pills, water and cigars. The weight comes off, but miserable slow, perhaps (mystically) because it’s been there so long it feels a right to stay. I was so grotesque when I started (255) that being 232 now isn’t much comfort.>White prints Ammons’s wonderful response: “I mourn for and eulogize the 23 lost pounds of you. I wonder where they are, and whether they possess the tincture of Haroldness still.”How would you rate Bloom's plus-sized influence on literary critcism?
>>25386454this is so fucking gay holy shit are all litsissies like this?
>>25386454>teak, three hard-boiled eggs, vitamin pills, water and cigarsbloomie was on the vogue diet
>>25386778Kek no wonder this worked they were fucking nuking their stomachs
Summer Goth Edition>Previous: >>25374043>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg>Thread question:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25386781I'm asking specifically about the setting on purpose. I'm curious whether people would be discouraged from trying whatever story I'm trying to tell based on any of the factors I described (there's plenty of people I've met online and irl who tell me they are interested in inhabiting worlds and hold the setting itself to higher standards than the actual stories).As for >What kind of story are you trying to tell? What's going on? Why should we care?The premise of my project is the invention of a fourth (or third) domain of cellular life which is entirely artificially created and does not mix with normal biology but is unintentionally sensitive to metaphysical "currents" at a much smaller scale than humans who perceive at larger scales through ritual, history, religion and religious practice, and philosophy. It is an anthology exploring the intersection of faith, worldview, intention, culture and history, and the overarching conflict which is emerging can be boiled down to>History used to frame the enemy as wrong: believers in unreal things (opposition of gods/models). In reality, the enemy is truly dangerous because they are also right, and their faith, science, myth, or ideology is helping bring a rival reality into Being.Some of the stories are military sci-fi, others are romance, others still are psychological.
>>25386765Write the story you want to tell, not the one you think other people will want to hear. The best gifts are the ones you didn't know you wanted.
>>25386803>people I've met online and irl who tell me they are interested in inhabiting worlds and hold the setting itself to higher standards than the actual storiesI feel nothing but contempt for these people.>an anthology exploring the intersection of faith, worldview, intention, culture and historyNot for me, then. But I'm sure others could be interested.
>>25386805I have no intention of ever writing anything other than what I want to tell, I'm simply gauging interest. There are some small parameters I could tweak in order to "open the doors wider" as it were, but I'm primarily just putting the outline out here and seeing what people's kneejerk reactions are. Thanks, anon.
>>25386811>Not for me, then. But I'm sure others could be interested.What would do it for you? As I told the other anon above, I don't intend to bend the stories out of shape, but there are some things I simply haven't thought of or encountered that would be interesting to me to write and play with.
Why does Charles Murray's book on human accomplishment have so many models that are wrong?It's like he didn't take a basic course in statistics and tried to use statistics to jerk off the british, french, dutch and danish. He can't even understand that human development is logarithmic not linear. Doesn't even know basic mathematics.
The irony of the future is that no one will thank or appreciate white people for uplifting the whole goddamned world. You’ll have fringe historians who insist it’s true but they’ll be laughed out of the room.
Why this shit is not on /pol/?
>>25385389Because you touch yourself at night
Everybody is overthinking this, the idea that it's at all possible to measure or define what counts as a historically significant achievement, invention, or person to begin with already shows that Murray is a dumbassThat's obviously insanely subjective and isn't quantifiable, there's obviously going to be a giant skew based on how that is defined and what datasets are used unless you assemble an international multi-lingual team to review records and sources from across the globe, and even in that best case scenario it's still going to leave specific regions and periods underrepresented due to us lacking sources, like for Mesoamerican and Andean civilizations in the Americas You don't really need to debate the finer specifics, the very premise is stupid>>25364207this
>>25364207The objective truth is still there, though. Somewhere. The hypothetical possibility of inventing something doesn’t mean it will get invented. White people objectively produced more. More or less what >>25369338 said.
>McCarthyfags will seriously try to argue that he’s on Faulkner’s level
>>25377056>McCarthy is equally as worthless as Faulkner I would agree though I'm not stupid enough to be a McCarthyfag.
>>25377056ps2 rock band guitar hero algorithm
>>25377056Bookniggas really just be reading puncuation
>>25377508>A Pickle, etc.Lost.
>>25382082>How hideous is the semicolon.— Watt>>25386584That's just an abbreviated title header.
What does Nietzsche say about finding meaning in a Godless secular world?
Maybe Having to find meaning is decadent. You're a museless person who should be sacrificed for greater people.
He wrote like 10 books about that.
You'd know by reading even just the prologue to Zarathursta: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Thus_Spake_Zarathustra/PrologueIf it's at all reasonable to speak of a soul, it resides in man's consuming search for meaning.
>The son of the mother can find himself only in matteri don't get it
it's probably a joke in german that got cucked by the translation or something
>>25385454It's alright Junganon, for matters of Landian discourse he gets his equity point. I'll translate this into alchemical psychobabble for you.>in China you should not send the tiger to deal with a dragon unless extreme caution is used.>for mapping this back to you then it's like the old world version of stone extraction vs Nietzsche's version. >it appears as a hermaphrodite to either but only one has the mercury.>for Jung there is a significant question, if the analytic component holds then there may be a legitimate question as to whether any ego was involved at all.I'm gratuitously skipping the mass of irrelevant nonsense that usually accompanies these sort of alchemical mixtures.
there is a well known possible etymological link between mother/matter from same PIE root as Latin 'mater'
>>25385454I think he means if you love women too much you can lose sight of higher virtues
>just WORK, puer-goy!
What does /lit/ think of him?
>>25385008I think that he looks like Eraserhead's protagonist.
>Si le dégoût du monde conférait à lui seul la sainteté, je ne vois pas comment je pourrais éviter la canonisation.Based!
>>25385812I would honestly mostly start with some interviews. The one with Jason Weiss, Michel Jakob or the documentary of Gabriel Liiceanu, which includes an interview. Even many of his essays suffer from being to playful with language. His actual opinion could be hard to be filtered out of there. But during an interview he doesn't have too much time to do that. Direct question and mostly direct answers. He gives pretty straight forward information about his main topics like insomnia, suicide, etc. If you get the basic idea, you can pretty much read any work of his. I don't remember which of his essays I found the best, but I think I liked Heights of Despair quite a bit. But I am sadly quite resistant to read more of his works. I have read a few, but he already mentioned quite a few times that he pretty much wrote the same book over and over again. All of his works very mostly identical to his first book. And you can honestly feel that. >>25386062>Go kys.Feels like reading Cioran. Thanks for reminding me. >Nothing was contributed. That sums up Cioran pretty well. He is a walking contradiction and I am not even sure why people call him a philosopher. He himself admits: "I have invented nothing, I have merely been the secretary of my sensations". I just enjoy reading him. I would have loved it if he would have written such an introspective stream of consciousness book like Bernhard does. >If you're that committed to pessimism you won't even masturbate.He mainly criticizes Nietzsche because:>What I consider his most authentic work is his letters, because in them he’s truthful, while in his other work he’s prisoner to his vision. In his letters one sees that he’s just a poor guy, that he’s ill, exactly the opposite of everything he claimed.>It’s because that whole vision, of the will to power and all that, he imposed that grandiose vision on himself because he was a pitiful invalid. Its whole basis was false, nonexistent. His work is an unspeakable megalomania. When one reads the letters he wrote at the same time, one sees that he’s pathetic, it’s very touching, like a character out of Chekhov. I was attached to him in my youth, but not after. He’s a great writer, though, a great stylist.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25386702Some of his points aren't without merit. How can someone who is so isolated still access the irrationality of group environments? There is also a point to be made that Nietzsche's philosophy produces a mindset wherein unless thought is taken to the extreme points or generates a result then it's worthless. Both of these seem too far removed from the course of everyday discourse, and appear either as impossibly tyrannical or a high speed version of Dance Dance Revolution. This criticism is also difficult for Cioran to maintain since he admits he loves tyranny and admits that suffering which continues too long destroys the reason and the senses.>Cioran remains inside the accepted social spaces and succumbs to fragility. He doesn't escape his own criticism of Nietzsche.>Cioran leaves the accepted social spaces and turns into Nietzsche. His own criticism is unflattering to himself.>Cioran continues and loses all of the coherence he may have been able to claim.This cyclical process is most frequently a result of differing value judgements. I personally suspect Cioran at some point didn't want to be seen as a pupil of Nietzsche's philosophy, but it's too difficult, if not impossible, to refute it from the inside. It always appears as though he is merely imitating, in hopes someone else will do it for him. This isn't a write off of Cioran as a whole, rather just that it is difficult to avoid the 2 most popular pessimists if you want to be the patron of pessimism.
My fav song of hishttps://youtu.be/7hgwOTK2xN4
I think the problem with the Third Man Argument is a confusion over language, e.g. the fact that we have to make sentences with a subject and a predicate, the fact that we understand the subject to be a noun and the predicate to be some sort of adjective (even if it is otherwise a noun), and that the copula "is" can do many things at once. But the things we are talking about, in some sense, have to be above grammatical distinctions of nouns, adjectives, etc., which turn out to be more conventional than essential. We tend to treat adjectives as pertaining to accidents and nouns as pertaining to essences, even though in practice we mix them up. For example, if I say "The cat is brown", we have a simple subject-predicate structure in the form of noun and adjective respectively. Is it an essential feature of cats that they are brown? Not necessarily. I could also say that "The cat is an animal", and we have another subject-predicate structure, but with a twist as the predicate is a predicate nominative, i.e. we are using "animal" to describe (like an adjective, kind of) what kind of thing the cat is, and we necessarily know that all cats must be animals. Keep this in mind. (1/?)
>>25380994Stop freestyling and read books instead.https://archive.org/details/easylessonsonrea01whathttps://archive.org/details/elementarylesson01jevohttps://archive.org/details/artoflogicalthin00atkihttps://archive.org/details/logicorrightuseo00watt
>>25383021There is a best chair for any given context where you invoke the idea of a chair. The best chair for a given situation exists before it's built.In the abstract context the best chair isn't made of any specific material and doesn't have a specific shape but a mind that contains the idea of the best abstract chair can recognize any chair with the least amount of effort. Physically it's the optimal neural network for recognizing chairs and again it exists before anyone physically builds that network.
You're supposed to study the Trivium before you study philosophy.
>>25386754Table of contents for the last book is here. It talks extensively about propositions.https://heritagebooks.org/content/Logicsample.pdf
>>25386770Also in picrel
Never read him. (Only know his minimalist poet son.) What's he like?
What's going on here?
>>25384057You definitely have option to buy from other Amazon sellers who are selling it at half the price.
>>25384569>>25384613yeah dynamic pricing is totally a myth, brainlet
>>25384626Actually Amazon does always show you the cheapest one incl. shipping first. If you click on picrel you'll see that price (for instance here $23.14) plus the shipping will come to more than the $43.77 + $3.99 total, sometimes marginally sometimes significantly.
36 USD here with free shipping for me (Brazilian)
>>25384613>>25384646Notice these are a different listing than op's. Same image, probably same edition, but a diff. listing. In op it's titled:>Early Greek Philosophy (Penguin Classics) Revised edition by Various (2002) Paperback>by Various
Is he the Plato of phenomenology? It seems that most concepts in the phenomenological tradition and even existentialism appear first in Husserls work. That counts for scheler and Heidegger and the French. All of the phenomenologists pick one or more concept found in Husserl and expand that.
>>25386662Quiet you
Squandering incredible brain juice on philosophy should be a crime. I can't believe people dedicate their lives to this kind of mental masturbation that leads nowhere and does nothing for anybody.
>>25386748Someone has been filtered hard, I see.
>>25386753How can I be filtered hard if I never read a single sentence of Random Philosopher #53? I don't want to even expose myself to such mental masturbation.
>>25386757Why are you posting in this thread then?
Justice Thomas cited both Aristotle and Aquinas in his dissent in the recent Trump v. Barbara case.Pretty cool, thought Id share.
>>25384537What is a male?
>>25384690>sheYou've forgotten your own talking points.>>25384785See>>25384272
>>25384537>just cause a male got pregnant doesn't mean males can get pregnant.I dont recall saying all males can get pregnant.
>>25385502That person was intersex, retard >>25385524Fuck off, trannie.
>>25379908>our president's an 80 year old rapist with dementiaBiden isn't president anymore though. Genuinely hilarious how you faggots ignored his mental situation for 3.5 years until he dropped out for reelection lmao.
