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This is the anti-Percy Jackson. While Percy Jackson is a vicious bastardization to turn greek myths into a vapid source of income, Descostas wrote a post-modernist deconstruction of modern fantasy, and how profit degrades myth.

>book is a commentary on the capitalist milking of mythology and symbols of ancient western civilization for profit
>heroin is exploited and threatened with homelessness, needs to go to work milking minotaurs
>the minotaur is a symbol for the ancient greco tradition of the West, devoid of any meaning, just taken for its milk and farmed
>heroin develops a relationship with a mean minotaur who is not content with this whole ordeal, revealing the lost depth behind his character which bourgeois morality and marketization made
>capitalism is exposed as a system who exploits the youth with creative aspirations and force them into milking the ancient symbols of Western Civilization for profit, while ignoring the inner aspects of these symbols which would rebel against bourgeois Enlightenment society

Descostas wrote a masterpiece.
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>>25304196
I know i do
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>>25303324
Its not that much of a fact. For instance, fantasies and delusions are intellectual cousins which could be played out in real life. They also could become permanently lodged in the psyche which whomever holds them could have a stilted view of reality.
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>>25304655
Sounds like tumblr bullshit used for grandstanding.
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>>25297609
diseased whores
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>>25297609
Sometimes I feel like women are a separate species from us entirely.

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Wtf did screencapfag really heemed the general?
Come on just ignore him retards
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>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
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Is The Andromeda Strain worth reading?
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>>25305108
It's fine but the film is much better. Actually that's true for most of his books.
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>Movie is better than the book
I don't believe (You)
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>>25302455
back to plebbit you faggot
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>>25305118
Next you're going to tell me that I Am Legend (2007) was better than the book.

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Now that the dust has finally settled, was it good?
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is there incest?
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>>25304160
You can probably skim most of it, since the only bits really relevant to the plot are near the end.
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I was going to read Hunchback of Notre Dame first to see if I even like Hugo
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>>25303790
Too moralistic and promotes leftist ideology.
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>>25303790
Yes it's unquestionably one of the greatest books of all time. I read it twice, Wilbour's translation the first time and Hapgood's the second, and I'm planning on reading it in French once I'm comfortable enough.
>>25303919
What made you lose motivation? If it's the digressions, just skim over them for now, but don't skip. It's not that it "gets good", it's more of a gradual build up to a grand conclusion and Hugo obviously knew what he was doing so it's pretty likely you will react exactly how he wanted you to. If you sincerely engage with the book, that is.

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Harriet Monroe Edition
Talk about poems/poets you like, post your own work, and critique others
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>>25303561
I'm not asking how to appreciate poetry. I already love it. I mean gaining understanding into exactly what a poet is doing technically and why.
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>>25304178
In terms of what? I mean the real "why" of it, barring your becoming an omniscient mind-reader, is, I would say, off the cards. As to what they're doing technically, what kind of insight are you looking for specifically? Like, if they're going for a particular stress pattern, they'll employ words that fit it, within the limits of whatever seems semantically and phonetically appropriate to them at the time. Maybe a line occurs to them fully formed. Maybe they spend a while searching for the perfect word or phrase. Maybe they sacrifice semantic precision for a better sound, or vice versa. I like thinking about this kind of shit, so I'm curious as to what you have in mind. Is there a poem whose structure you're particularly intrigued by?
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>>25303129
I'm also interested in this
a more analytical perspective on the mechanics of poetry would be welcome
I've read The Ode Less Travelled and it seems pretty good for a beginner or casual fan, but it reads more like a comprehensive and layperson friendly overview and introduction than a deep dive
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>>25298778
>glove
>skin unveiled
is she only wearing a glove? the image is unclear and the final lines suggest she is basically amassing accessories at most. i'd say rework it if your idea is not to have her with only one glove and then turning in an 18th C laundry pile, but if that was your intended imagery then it's probably fine. the capitalisation irks me but it's obviously a matter of style
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>>25297629
>n reading poetry you only stop where the punctuation tells you to stop not to treat line breaks as periods.
yeah that's wrong. line breaks are a breath, not the hard stop of a period. commas, semicolons, and other punctuation likewise have shorter breathing stops, but they are all stops for at least half a breath. that poem is a great example of how to use the break of a line or stanza in contrast to the hard stop of a period within a line or stanza

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>"There are people who are just fundamentally better than everyone else except it's based in metrics that cannot ever be proven"
>"How do you actually know who are the people are fundamentally better? Aaahhh, uhhh, errrmm, well, if you were one of them you would just know, ok?!"

Was Julius Evola the most retarded philosopher ever?
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>>25303529
I understand what you are saying, and you might be right that he would insist on making such a point, but I use IQ as shorthand for the hierarchy of overall depth of internal experience and cognitive capacity, not the actual test score. It's obvious that people who speak colloquially about IQ are referring to the underlying trait G (ineffable) to people who have spent time with the intelligence literature. The fact is that there might be a number of instances in the history of humanity where an 80 IQ nigger is of the same spiritual type a particular 150 IQ individual, but this would be an absurdly tiny minority of cases and more remarkable as an exception to the rule. And it goes without saying that the hierarchy of people is not 1:1 with the intelligence hierarchy, I was mentioning intelligence as an obvious, observable example of differences between people so that we have something to talk about. The fact that we can't talk about inexpressible existential (soul-level) differences between people doesn't mean they don't exist
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>>25301886
being ensouled also has no relation to ideology. every leftist/apolitical/medieval/ancient writer has had to make some distinction between those capable of thought and those incapable.
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>>25301766
Muh West is collapsing.

Just adopt an Astérix and Obélix mentality.

Go full retard.
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>>25302490
I love that post.

>Why do people not understand what our inane statements based on decades of indoctrination that contradicts any rational logic or personal experience are getting at.
>Must be disingenuous leftists.

Don't worry, maybe if you add more incomprehensible neologisms, people will finally be on the same page.
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>>25301766
many great philosophers have written about the inability to prove anything at all.

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Looking for books that would make the Gov't and *them* shit themselves if they knew you read/owned them. Like some stuff that feels like you are not allowed to know and forbidden texts that expresses real truth that hits almost too close for them to consider having it for public sale. Anyone got any good recs?
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>>25304281
Lmk if you find a book that lets me score my own sister
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There's always The Turner Diaries.
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>>25303997
pic related here is Infinite Jest

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>>25304484
sounds like a great deal to me. perfectly acceptable.
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>>25304484
pastry and a $100 to parcel Sophie World to them? i'm in, except i don't have air fare or an MA

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books to debunk astrology?
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>>25304607
>or does an entire new system emerge?
Yes.
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>>25304642
Dawkins is a kike atheist (anglos are basically jews) who wants to turn the UK into a soulless crypto-calvinist strip mall.
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>>25304344
There's an interesting argument against astrology at the start of book 5 of St. Augustine's City of God that goes for 10 pages or so.

His main argument is that the existence of twins, particularly identical twins, debunks astrology. Though conceived at the same moment and born under the same sign, twins often have very different personalities and careers, something astrologers have no counter argument to explain.
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>>25304807
That's a terrible argument. You could use the same logic to debunk genetics and family influence. Astrology doesn't make exact predictions.
Also twins are a terrible example because they *are* frequently similar and even two-halves-of-one-persony. You'd want to compare complete strangers with similar birth charts.
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>>25304344
You don't need a book to debunk astrology. There's a bunch of articles out there that survey attempts to test astrology and they pretty much all fail. Here's one that's just 5 pages and makes a compelling argument
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289477811_Testing_astrology
You don't really need 200 pages of "and here's another reason it doesn't make sense".
True believers will just respond to statistical tests with "whatever, I've seen it work and I know it works."

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To the tune of ‘The Vicar of Bray’.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piUDIr97xcY

1. In late childhood’s innocent days,
When I had no commitments;
An Evangelical I was,
And so I gave my two cents.
To all my Facebook friends I’d post,
‘Church should be bare bones only,
Be Non-Denominational,
TED talks and rock bands for me’.
(Chorus:)
And this is the truth, I’ll say again
Until I meet the good Lord,

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How do you balance alcoholism with reading?
Do you read before drinking, try to read while drunk, or listen to audio?
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I only read before going to sleep.
If I get home hammered, I just masturbate and drink some water before going to bed.

If you are confused about this, I do this because if I go to sleep too drunk, I literally wake up puking. And I know I am not too drunk if I can maintain an erection.
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>>25303072
Try to quit. It took me many attempts but finally stuck. I will never drink again. With age hangovers become horrific. Neat bourbon was my thing. But it had become obvious 1 drink was too many and 20 was not enough. RIP booze.
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>>25304998
I have never had a hangover before.
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>>25303072
if you approach any sort of sloppiness, your reading wont gor over well, though i guess you can do it.

>>25303147
this guy sounds a bit like a cunt. drinking is a tough game.

>>25304998
all hangovers suck, no matter the age, until you only drink nice booze and have time to sleep.

neat bourbon is a bad idea for a 'thing'. lots of room between 1 and 20.

>>25305027
lol ok summer. keep it up if you can.
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>>25303072
I can only enjoy poetry, music, and art in general when drinking. When I read Paradise Lost drunk I thought it was fascinating and cried several times. I read it twice sober and thought it was boring. There was a three or four day period in the middle of a months long binge where I read The Illiad and Great Expectations while developing a fever and only being able to sleep two hours at a time with incredibly vivid hallucinations. Great Expectations was the most spiritual experience of my life. I thought I died and was living in the book.

the three thousand of qohor edition

ASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_Page
Blog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/
Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/
So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/
Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/
SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdy
General search: http://searcherr.work/
TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chapters

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>>25303773
This poster is george himself. Get back to working on the book George.
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>Luwin raised his voice. “A true prince would welcome—”
>“AAHOOOOOOO,” Bran howled, louder. “OOOO-OOOO-OOOO.”
>The maester surrendered. “As you will, child.” With a look that was part grief and part disgust, he left the bedchamber.
Why are Bran chapters so shit?
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Othgar is an anagram of Argoth
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>>25303711
George already gave us the origin of all the Elric adjacent names when he told us about Erreg the kingslayer and how Erreg is actually a corruption of a word meaning king. In real life “Eric” means eternal ruler. Eldric shadowchaser is another name for azor ahai because he would be called Eldric like how others use khal or Caesar. Erich, Edric, Erich, Eldric, Harrag, Erreg, Errec etc, are all more examples of this. as for why an Arryn is named Eldric, it’s another hint from George about the several bloodlines of azor ahai. The Arryn’s claim decent from hugor of the hill, having an Eldric in the family tells us hugor was probably another name for the azor ahai character.
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>>25303864
>“AAHOOOOOOO,” Bran howled, louder. “OOOO-OOOO-OOOO.”
>56709
but they're not. fun exploration, and his training to be a greenseer is good shit. also Hodor (who I don't think Melisandre has met or even heard about, if she does, that might confirm the theory about the Great Other)

really? that's it? i don't see what's all the hype with this one. Should have known it was the ultimate mid wit tier reading when Jordan Peterson mentioned this is his favorite book. Everything is just spoon fed and shoved down your throat. Treats the reader like they're too retarded to have reading comprehension, he couldn't find any other way to make it just a bit more subtle? Hemingway unironically hard mogs this sht

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Is there any comic/graphic novel that comes close to being /lit/?
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I have heard there are paragraphs of text in Cerebus, but I will never read it.
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No, but Sandman and Hellblazer border on it sometimes.
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>>25304947
Yes, but they're all by Japs.
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>>25305026
hahahahaha. very good!
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Billy Bat.

ITT: The Most depressing book you read in high school for English Class
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>>25304951
Angela's Ashes, fucking bleak book about the author's childhood, growing up in extreme poverty in Ireland with an alcoholic deadbeat father who is physically abusive to the whole family. Mentions how his mother had a one night stand with the guy when she first arrived in Ireland from the US, and got pregnant from that, then had 2 more kids with him.

There's a bit towards the end, the father is out of the picture by this point, the main character is like 16 goes to the pub for the first time, drinks a single pint of guinness which gets him completely drunk because he's been malnourished his whole life, goes home and starts beating up his mother.
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Based teacher teaching me how to hate communists from an early age.
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It's not a book and I didn't read it in high school
But read the story The Little Match Girl by HCA
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>>25305045
Had to read Little Match Girl and Child in the Grave when I was like 10 years old. I think they're the reason I've turned so melancholy.

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>Of course, Father Labat reports that a Negro carpenter, whom he reproached for haughty treatment toward his wives, answered: “You whites are indeed fools, for first you make great concessions to your wives, and afterward you complain when they drive you mad.” And it might be that there were something in this which perhaps deserved to be considered; but in short, this fellow was quite black from head to foot, a clear proof that what he said was stupid.
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>>25304631
Critique of Negro Reason
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>>25304631
>
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>>25304631
He was right
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>>25304760
Kant or the black guy?
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>>25305051
both. whites are cucked and blacks are retarded.


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