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Did you know Flaubert wanted to write a book about nothing?
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>>24710755
They don't have. They have many.
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no one ever talks about Flaubert's Salammbo (not to be confused with Sambo). It's very good.
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>>24712641
>no one ever talks about Flaubert's Salammbo (
yes, they do.
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>>24712602
no. you would have to pick the chansons, the troubadours, the mostly anonymous lancelot-grail cycle, or villon. and none of those really present an all-embracing picture of the world. the anonymous works have a degree of dignity that is unreachable outside that context, but they are limited nonetheless.
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>>24712651
>the troubadours
they share those with other regions and it's not really french literature.

>88
He's going to die next year at 89, same as Cormac.
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>>24712211
No, just one of those dudes who is sick of people pointing out the obvious and acting like it is secret knowledge that few have.
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>>24712321
I am... le Ozymandias...! Behold my works, ye wretched, and tremble!!
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>>24712328
if you do it strictly for money/p***y you degrade yourself. you produce schlock and your soul develops a stink. your very face gives evidence of the corruption within. next thing you know you look at the mirror and you see an andrew tate face. that cartoonish hubris and an ugly emptiness in the eyes.
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>>24712321
you ... thought that a mementori mori type comment was supposed to be secret knowledge? the fact that you even use terms like "secret knowledge" reveals ur some type of occult clown which is i guess why u post low iq takes
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>>24712628
2/10.

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Looking for books that recreate the feel of early internet communities and their effect on reality (or vice versa). If nonfiction, preferably from an insider perspective instead of some waify academic taking a spry look from afar.

I’m surprised we haven’t seen many fiction novels with structures mirroring online spaces. To be clear, not saying I’m just looking for greentexts and forum transcripts. Thinking more on the lines of how some books have interview/interrogation sequences or phone call exchanges like in American Tabloid.

In a similar vein, I wonder if there are books out there that utilize a textual structure unique to digital spaces to some extent to enhance the story.
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>>24710334
Ion get it lil brobro fr blud sybau
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>>24710125
Picrel's excellent, it's about imageboard culture. The novel's written in anonymous imageboard posts. I think you'll like it.
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>>24710334
This was great, short but definitely in line with what I was thinking.
>>24711196
I’ve seen this before, I’ll definitely add it to my list now. Thanks
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>>24711232
>This was great
Glad you liked it. There's more from its author in the same collection, but I won't say what. The entire book is made up of stories published on /lit/ in a magazine that used to run here, so there's an overarching significance to the internet in it, but not many stories that use it textually. Pic related kind of comes close; faux scientific article on a ficticious internet phenomenon with quotes pulled from forums.

There's a PDF of the whole thing here:
https://the-best-of-amp.github.io/assets/the_best_of_amp_digital.pdf
and a link to print copies on the main site:
https://the-best-of-amp.github.io/
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bumpin

Femoid has been shilled here by its author (Aaron Barry) when he was still pretending to be a woman. I can't vouch for it or whether it does anything internet-like structurally, but it's supposed to be about an obsessive terminally online woman. Pic rel is the preview of the first chapter; there's now also a preview of the second chapter on the publisher's site.

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>The following was the course of study in 1838:
Freshman Class
>First Term: Virgil's Aeneid, Translation of English into Latin, Xenophon's Cyropedia, Roman Antiquities, and Algebra (Davies' edition of Bourdon's).
>Second Term: Livy, Translation of English into Latin, Graecae Majora (selections from important Greek works), Greek Antiquities (a study, probably in English, of Greek social, economic, and political life), and Algebra.
Sophomore Class
>First Term: Virgil's Georgics and Bucolics, Cicero's Orations, Homer's Iliad, Davies' edition of Legendre's geometry.
>Second Term: Horace, Graecae Majora, Young's Trigonometry (Plane and Spherical), Surveying (Heights and Distances), Spherical Projections, Navigation, Nautical Astronomy.
Junior Class
>First Term: Cicero de Oratore, Graecae Majora (Philosophical and Critical Extracts), Whately's Rhetoric, Whately's Logic, Young's Analytical Geometry (Conic sections and Analytical Geometry of three dimensions).
>Second Term: Tacitus, Graecae Majora (Dramatic Extracts), Evidence of Christianity, Political Economy, Young's Differential Calculus.
Senior Class
>First Term: Juvenal, Graecae Majora (Dramatic Extracts), Mental Philosophy, Chemistry, Young's Integral Calculus, Olmsted's Natural Philosophy.
>Second Term: Persius, Cicero de Officiis, Graecae Majora (odes, etc.), Moral Philosophy, Constitution of the United States and National Law, Olmsted's Natural Philosophy, Astronomy, Geology.
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>>24711625
Unless you were going to be an academic college back then was about reproducing what the upper class saw as well rounded members of the upper class. That's why the curriculum is just kind of everything, and why the maths doesn't get that advanced and is divided up over a long enough time to hammer it all into them even if they don't have paricularly strong aptitude for it. Humanities were tougher back then, with far more rigour, involving actually learning ancient languages. But still the average educated person found it easier than maths. So they're essentially laying it on thick with the humanities because that's easier to discuss at dinner parties while doing no child left behind with the maths just so the people managing every sector of industry and administration at least knew calculus.
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>>24711515
Amazing how all the really educated people are Liberal
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>>24712464
The people who select into tertiary education and academia are liberal.
Graduating from university made me less liberal because actually engaging with liberal arguments revealed to me how they depend on legerdemain and selective data.
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>>24712464
leftists are not the same thing as liberals
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>>24712464
Good luck getting a job in academia if you aren't willing to at least pretend to be far left.

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What are France's foundational authors? The ones who defined what French literature is.
I've got Rousseau, Céline and then...? Chrétien de Troyes? Montaigne?

Also post other countries' foundational authors.
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>>24710137
>Are Belgian writers or artists considered French? Are the swiss French?
Yes
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>>24708229
The most influential within France are Victor Hugo, Rabelias, and Voltaire. Outside of France I think you need to include Jules Verne and Saint-Exupéry (both mediocre, but influential for how people see French lit), Camus, and of course Houellebecq
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>>24711638
>Jules Verne and Saint-Exupéry (both mediocre, but influential for how people see French lit)
Actually Jules Verne is seen as merely a children's author outside of France
Within France he's more highly respected
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>>24709066
nope that would be islam

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Is it the most overrated novel of all time?
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>>24712572
It's Twilight for pedophiles
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>>24712578
that one is good. his second novel sucks though

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How many pages becomes too much? Personally, I don't much like to go above 200.
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>>24712531
What's the word count? Lit fic?
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>>24712425
>but in reality there are usually less than 20.
In reality there is generally just one point or idea regardless of length.
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>>24712545
yes it is litfic. i've been cutting it down. it was 250 but it'll end up at about 180k
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I don’t think anyone on this board deserves to read
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>>24707134
Critique of Pure Reason (Cambridge edition) doesn't even start until about 155 pages in.
Philosophy books are going to be 500-700 pages unless they're just essays.

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public domain books ftw. fuck that copyright shit ese.

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Post your own work and critique others.
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>>24708587
The walls kept safe things worth loving
Outside them were demons at play

"Renounce your families and ravage nature, it's fun and profitable" the demons would say.

But from behind thick walls, and guards armed to the teeth, families lived their lives in peace. Racially pure with morals that were clear they were masters at running the demons away.

After thousands of years a serious mistake was made: A demon was let in. It created an illusion that spread as delusion and the walls were torn down from within.

History became lies; generations were severed, and the demons told woman they could be men. The system imploded and the locust infestation exploded while the demons devoured the children.

It all could have been prevented if the guard had not relented on keeping out the merchant that let slip an Oy Vay.
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>>24698533
Why, /lit/ is a board so shitty
I'd wish for a sword to kill me
Spare what waste you fags shill
Bare consumption made swill
Grime pit of you pork laid filthy
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>>24705855
I like your diction anon
>>24709271
I wish every video game dialogue was written like this. Actually substantive and not canned. Nice one

Here's one I wrote.

Recess

There's a hot spring in a deep cave
It burns my skin when I swim
Not a good burn either
It makes it hard to get around
To do chores around the house
My friends worry about me

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>>24711401
Is this some kind of weird sex metaphor?
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>>24712418
- Coping with a mentor's attempted suicide

- trying to align my thoughts with theirs in order to understand them better

- the danger of doing that

What are some good Italian novels?
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>>24711358
Is that M Son of the Century
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>>24711521
based opinion. my favorite is if on a winter’s night a traveler
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>>24712261
based on what??
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What are some books about learning martial arts and going out into the streets to fight niggers
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>>24712324
uhhh baki the grappler

How do I read these books without picturing Elijah Wood and Ian McKellen in my head the whole time?
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>>24712054
Why bother? The movies were better.
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>>24712054
You probably can't. But it's okay, they were well cast.
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>>24712054
Aragorn and Boromir not having beards was what threw me off the most at first.
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>>24712054
Frodo is 50 years old for most of the book

I've recently encountered something mind boggling.

So, I made a post recently, and someone called me an ESL user... but I really can't see what made him say that. Unless I'm missing something, this is peak irony. The thread is archived now, so I can't ask him, much to my dismay.

Is there anything wrong with the way this post is structured? /g/>>106520742
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>>24711404
What's the difference?
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>>24711423
I can usually understand what they mean if the words are relevant, I only don't like when the accent is so thicc that you can't even understand what word they said at all!
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>>24712029
>the two do have different tones
Indeed, I feel like giving a couple extra examples.

You're going to school.
>Oh wow, I'm excited for my first day of school!

You are going to school!
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>24711410
I speak portuguese and now that you mention it I see that I probably make this mistake all the time lol
Why is it not "natural" though? If that anon posted a pic of him doing the action then would you consider it continuous? I guess in that specific case since he posted the skyrim guard maybe it'd make more sense for him to make general statements regardless of time, but I can't see how just changing it to a continuous tense would make it that "unnatural" to be considered ESL tier instantly
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>>24712517
>If that anon posted a pic of him doing the action then would you consider it continuous?
With this I mean the anon OP replied to in the other thread, just to make it clear

She's right.
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She should have read more philosophy and poetry, that womyn.
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>>24710682
Is she referring to polyphony? That makes no sense because you're not reading all those books simultaneously. I'm fine with reading (and actually finishing) one book at a time.
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>>24710682
idk if it's a good idea because I spent a summer playing Skyrim by day, watching Star Trek at night and falling asleep to audiobooks of Dune and PKDick and the tonal dissonance of all the different stories kinda fucked me up.

Maybe just one story at a time. Then again, if women knew how to focus on one thing they wouldn't all be cheating whores.
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>>24710682
she was manic depressive, this is the rationalization of mania symptoms.
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>>24710829
Not to mention, what musically uneducated plebeian would call a whole work of fiction a single note and not a full harmony? Obviously a novel is as a piece of music, as an e.g. trilogy is to an album. Or how am I supposed to get "the full sound" when the works have nothing to do with each other? Am I supposed to pick specific works? This bitch never touched an instrument in her life.

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I’m autistically obsessed with Spengler and his cycles of culture and prime symbols

What other stuff is there like this?
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>>24711074
guenon condemned freemasonry and theosophy in his later works, in king of the world he even makes fun of Blavatsky. i agree that his conversion to islam is a disgrace but nobody is perfect
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>>24709327
Id recommend these authors of you really like Spengler.

Amaury De Riencourt
Peter turchin
Arnold Toynbee
William Mc Neil
Christopher Dawson
Carrol Quigley
Will Durant
John Glubb
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>>24711057
Nobody in the west does. He's purely for freaks and gypsy scum.
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>>24709327
Pitirim Sorokin
Robert Bolton

These also talk about historical cycles
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>>24709327
hearing about spengler's was how i first came to appreciate a concept of artistic achievement outside that of the individual artist, and it was one of my earliest introductions to the works of other cultures. i'll always think fondly of him for that reason.

Looking for a pdf of "Orania: building a nation" or other books on Orania, their strategy and so on.
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>>24711481
I couldn’t find a pdf, but you can purchase it on Amazon. A nice little book.
I doubt there’ll be others until the Oranians develop further and grow in numbers.

In a political sense, self-sufficient societies such as these will withstand the coming storm of global economic collapse and ethnic warfare.
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>>24711504
Ty anyway anon. I agree.
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>>24711481
>not on any shadow library
damn.

also i don't think Orania will survive sadly. a few thousand or tens of thoudands of whites wont be able to survive hoards of hundreds of millions of africans. especially as globalization breaks down and things get ugly in africa ad food gets scarce.


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