There's just no point in reading fiction in English.
>>25390546you would know, Ranjesh …
>>25390423Nor in German. Fiction is only worth reading in French.
>>25390690French is best for prose, German for poetry.
>>25390690>posts a translationYIKES
>>25390918Yes, that's the point.
I feel a prevalent occurrence that I'm seeing in male /lit/erature circles is readers seeking motivation/inspiration in fictional stories or a novel philosophy weaved into the narrative for the reader to readily adopt. It feels like /lit/ try-hards don't actually like fictional story-telling if it doesn't somehow relate to their own reality. What are the good literary books out there that merit its existence without the pretentious agenda of philosophy or self-help?
>normies like relatable storieswow>What are the good literary books out there that merit its existence without the pretentious agenda of philosophy or self-help?most of the famous ones
>>25390905It is inevitable. Art in general and literature especially is shared experience. There's not going to be a way to write a book that doesn't touch on some relatable aspect of life. Attempting to do so would in itself be an agenda
I would like some testimonies on this book (Easy Peasy). I kept hearing back in the day ("oh I tried Easy Peasy already") but I struggle to remember a single testimony about this book. For Pete's sake, I have never heard a single quote of this book by the people who shill it relentlessly. And for a self-help book on something as terrible as pornography, is it really necessary to put a political PSA for AUSTRALIA at the top of the pdf website? It's one of the least brief introductions I've ever read, along with the fact that the author tells you not to skip chapters.
>>25390232As a guy who did (2 years of) before it was hip, cool and got grifter literature to profit off of the normalfaggots invading yet another niche community, I can assure you that grifter literature never works because normies have shit for brains.
>>25390567>Therefore in case you are a religious one (provided it is a religion, that forbids porn) you just need to follow your religion - your nearest priest-curator will happily give you enough arguments to either drop the porn or to drop your current religion. In case you're autismo - you either already don't watch it because in-your-head-rules or if your rules for some reason allow porn - you're fucked until you'll manage to find the proper concept to solve your rules collision one way or another.I'm a Protestant. My old pastor was an asshole, so I never got close enough (way way much less did he ever get to me) for me to open up. I agree that you should have the elders help you, but a lot of times they'll just see that you gave them an inch, and take a mile. They're almost always doing shady things with money, so that should be enough to get you very weary with who you tell your femboy fantasies to, so to speak.
>>25390567Many studies prove porn has negative effects on your brain. Its not just religion, porn objectively harm society as a whole
>>25390706I read all his websites thoroughly before so much as reading a line of the book. I don't bring up the Aussie political PSA for nothing, this irreligious faggot who writes with all lowercase outside his books, uses fucking DISCORD out of any other chat on the globe to be his main "anti-coomer" hub, is completely off his rocker. The more I read his personal writings on his "projects" (half of which were 404'd or had a shitty AI page) the more I saw him rationalizing his retardations, such as:>le peace and love (everywhere)>le peace and love on every escalated argument with a "friend" (alarming sign of emotional instability)>him saying being a "public figure and online" are unhealthy (coping over him not putting his money where his mouth is)>the overwhelming centrism preaching on top of his peace and love talk, on a community supposedly united over hating tranniesWhat a clown show, oh my goodness. Never trust a Discordnigger. Turn tail and bolt on sight of cordniggers.Oh, and all his handles on social media are all "dontuse[social media he's in]", with the exception of the Jewish owned grooming app known as Discord. Makes you think.
I've tried to quit porn and did well a couple times but I caved. Recently though I had a strange dream and I don't feel the compulsion or want anymore even though I still desire.
>shills for technofeudalism in the West while living in ChinaHow does anyone take this fraud seriously?
>>25390092When I said appreciate I did not mean isolate, retard. People like you just suffer from a diminished theory of mind in that you are not able to understand why someone like land is worth talking about, so instead of actually engaging with the material, you take the easy route which is attacking his most recent talking points which have nothing to do with his past scholarship.
>>25384079of course. I do the same when people like Altman, Karp and Thiel try to convince me that AI is the second coming of god. I cautiously ponder the idea for hours consedring whether it might be good or not, and only after careful consideration I engage (in a completely separate train of thought) with the possibility that they might have an agenda in saying so.I treat all publicity like this btw. I carefully ponder whether the argument made for the goodness of any product in any ad is sound and good, and only after, and separately, I consider whether someone might just be wanting to trick me into buying it.
>>25390116>Altman, Karp and Thiel try to convince me that AI is the second coming of god?
>>25390194I don't think you are the anon I was arguing with but shifting goal posts from land to altman is exactly the kind of retarded juvenile behaviour I am talking about. What's next, you are going to mention trump and his 'truth social scholarship' too, anything for the list of people you hate?
I wonder if his wife is a rightoid like him, I saw her participate in leftist spaces online
aegon adopts the faith editionASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_PageBlog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdyGeneral search: http://searcherr.work/TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chaptersold: >>25334690
I don't like how Ice and Fiire went completely mainstream and a whole bunch of normals invaded the fanbase after GOT aired. I miss the early 00s days when it wasn't a household namen
>>25390745GOT's ending was so bad that a good chunk of fans pivoted at least partially to the books and especially book aesthetics so I'm fine. No one takes HBO's blue eyed Valyrians seriously, for instance.
>>25390750What you mean is that people have pivoted to watching Alt Shift X or some alternative ASOIAF youtuber to get their book takes, book theories, etc.Most people talking about the books haven't read them, but pretend they have through osmosis browsing online content.
>>25390771That's most people in any online discussion about a piece of media, talking about ASOIAF through osmosis about the books is better than talking about ASOIAF through osmosis about the shitty shows. The only thing that bothers me is that the shitty show STILL permeates into people thinking Jon has black curly hair and a beard rather than straight dark brown hair and no beard.
>>25390771Did you know that dragons are nukes?
What characteristics do you associate with heroism?I see a hero as someone who has a strong sense of right and wrong, and stands by their principles even if people think they are insane.
>>25390111>What characteristics do you associate with heroism?Doing the right (aka virtuous) thing even when it's difficult, and being competent enough and virtuous enough to get good results in bad situations.
>>25390130Based Aryan detected
Y'all are fucking dumbasses. A hero is just someone that improves the lives of the people around them. Their personal ethics, hardships, and motives are irrelevant. They could literally just be a wealthy sociopath that just wants to work out their childhood traumas by inflicting pain on others, but if they're helping people, that's all that matters.Like Batman.
>>25390111>>25390245Someome who liberates the collective from an oppresive force Read Campbell
>>25390111An hero is someone who sacrifices himself for his people. Being an hero is relative, for example achilles was an hero for acheans, but a villain for the trojans
Is romantasy the k-pop of literature?
>>25390880romantasy is the taylor swift of literature
>Cease to brag to me of America, and its model institutions and constitutions...men that sit idly caucusing and ballot-boxing on the graves of their heroic ancestors saying 'it is well, it is well!'> New Spiritual Pythons, plenty of them...as ugly as were ever born of mud, loom huge and hideous out of the twilight Future on America; and she will have her own agony, and her own victory, but on other terms than she is yet quite aware of.>What have [Americans] done?...They have begotten, with a rapidity beyond recorded example, Eighteen Millions of the greatest bores ever seen in this world before—that hitherto is their feat in History!"Was he right?
>>25390475Yet where is Prussia now?
>>25390104>if you hate America as a non-American today, you've basically got a 99% chance of turning into a rabid communist.Deranged ramblings.
>>25390512in Europe, not Chile
>>25390512>Nolan's The Odyssey.mp4>where is ancient Greece now?your cargo cult isn't the real thing, mister mutt
>>25388989Did this guy ever stop hating
What actual good literature has come out in the last two decades?Pic not related.
>>25390734>yes, yes, dislike does not preclude understandingLack of context precludes understanding, anon. How could you have known that the body died when "time broke contact with her body". "The earth refused to eat her": with the other sentence, this would mean that she is immortal, but that's not the case. The soul is still bound to the body, a body that lacks the affects of time and matter. How can the soul grow old, in this context? >I understand that reading this makes you feel smart,Now you are just projecting.>but other experienced readers may feel like her style is a sustained stream of colorful vomit with no particularly artistic precisionSo it actually filtered you. Goodreads agrees with you, they too can't spot the "particularly artistic precision". Would you describe them as "experienced readers"?
>>25387446If you were asking for slop, Vermis by Plastiboo was a fun read. You'll love the artstyle too, reminds me of All Tomorrows.
>>25390822I understand that you are blinded by the pretty lights of poetry and are struck dumb like a fainting goat by sophistry, but not everyone will be impressed. it's just another shitty poet realizing she can't make money from poetry, hence releasing long form doggerel. again, colorful vomit.
>>25390844struck dumb like a fainting goat by sophistrykek
>>25390844>it's just another shitty poet realizing she can't make money from poetry, hence releasing long form doggerel. again, colorful vomit....are you telling me that you perceive poetry as colorful vomit?
im looking for books that deeply explore and detail how lust and sexuality can motivate people toward both profoundly beautiful acts and the most depraved ones. ive been both repulsed and fascinated by this duality lately
>>25385672Human existence is caused by humans having sex.
>>25386139Damn, sounds interesting. Want to tell us more?
>>25385577>how lust and sexuality can motivate people toward both profoundly beautiful actsDo you mean love?>and the most depraved ones.Oh now you are talking about lust! gotya!
>>25385665>The entirety of human existence? Everything is ultimately about dipping one's biscuit. Disappointingly so, if I may add.that is a perfect sentence. new challange, same sentance make an amphiboly. +1 if funny.
>>25385577Fannie HillSchool of VenusBoth are funny
Anna’s doesn’t have it, mobilism only has the audiobook, does any of you have a epub?
>>25390808its on mob under otash series
>>25390834NTA but never heard of mob, what is it?
>>25390808https://buzzheavier.com/etxx85ttqs5qNot gonna name the website, but it's the one at the end of every chapter.
>>25390857And it's even in the filename, if you don't wanna download it from there.Some countries have that website banned tho.
>>25390857>>25390860tyvm anon!
How long did it take you to enjoy poetry?
I only like a handful sentimental mainstream poems like Do not go gentle into that good Night, which is probably pleb taste.
>>25389769I like Thomas a lot. (If you have the chance to read his radio play Under Milk Wood, do so.) Do not go gentle is great, Fern Hill is great, but my favorite is picrel
>>25385378robert browning and tennyson are great
>>25385124Since I was a kid. Loved Dr. Seuss and Shel Silverstein.
>>25385124I don't know, maybe a couple hours of reading Western Wind: an Introduction to Poetry
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>>25388877Miserable. I hope everyone in my life can go fuck themselves. In particular, go fuck yourself work. I've gotten so much reading & writing done between the many, many off moments there.You want to waste my time in office? I'll recomp the time there, thank you very much.
>>25388877>wait it's July? FUCK
>>25388877Not summer for me but it's going well. How is the Divine Comedy seminar going? Are you reading anything alongside it?
>>25389084>Miserable. I hope everyone in my life can go fuck themselves.I’m sorry. At the very least you know what “to be good” is from their bad examples.>I've gotten so much reading & writing done between the many, many off moments there.And a sincerely inspiring anecdote, making work work for you.I get a lot of doldrumsy moments where I work, and the weaker parts of me want to spend them checking the World Cup brackets or other bullshit, but I thought of what you wrote here and didn’t put away studying my vocab once today.>You want to waste my time in office?Best of luck with midterms comin’up.>>25389192>How is the Divine Comedy seminar going?It’s so endearing just how all-in Prof. Jiang (of /pol/ meme acclaim?) is on Dante. He doesn’t proselytize the poem; he proselytizes “teaching” the poem—a goal I’ve never really seen in any other literature class.The students get a lot of chances at discussion, and the balanced structure of the poem gets sorta paralled by the seminar itself, notably with the most confrontational student leaving class fed up & big mad after day 6 of 12.I’m only on day 8, so I might have more to say when it’s finished , but it started very strong.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25390147Just wondering if you were reading anything besides focusing on the seminar, like maybe some secondary sources on Dante. I don't really know that much about Dante to give any good recommendations. Right now I'm reading The Desperate Man by Léon Bloy but the translation seems kind of bad so I'm having trouble getting into it. The best thing I've read this year so far is probably The Sorrows of Young Werther, specifically the R.D. Boylan translation. I think there is something about reading older translations of older classics that adds to their charm.
Post and discuss Loebs.Reminder that Harvard University Press is running a 25% off summer sale until July 31, which includes all the Loeb Classical Library and Dumbarton Oaks Medieval Library books.https://www.hup.harvard.edu/features/epic-summer-reads
>>25381030>>25386618>>25386666Any anons who can help with this, please? Is the Loeb Strabo worth it, and what are the best translations of Eusebius' Praeparatio Evangelica and Clement of Alexandria's Stromata?
Loebs are out for delivery, let's gooooo
It's easy enough for me to read and understand the original text of the red books or the brown Medieval ones, but the left-hand pages of the green books are all Greek to me.
>>25389025Let's see them.
>>25390228I'm torn on how to proceed with my collection. On one hand, I've apparently suddenly remembered all the Latin I learned in school 17 years ago and it's so easy to read compared to Greek. On the other hand, I feel like getting more Greek stuff would be better for practice.Anyone have any recommendations from the Renaissance line? Mostly interested in poetry, but I'm intrigued by this Against the Jews and the Gentiles book. Surely that can't be as antisemitic as I'm expecting, what with being sold by fucking Harvard.
virtually unknown >Is the rightful heir of the French moraliste tradition>An elitist vulgarisateur, he would look at you with disgust as he initiates you into the cult of good taste >Perfected monographs, he KNOWS his writers. Villon, Benjamin Constant, de Retz.. EtcWouldn't expect nu/lit/ to care but long time no post so I thought just maybe. That, and the fact he's nowhere near translated adequately or at all for that matter.
>>25389643kill yourself
>>25387319I have Le Voyage du condottière. Haven't read it yet though. I think he's part of the authors Nabe really likes since he 'painted' portraits of him. That's when I heard of him, going to Nabe's gallery back in the day
>>25390592How was it, the gallery? Comfy I bet.
>>25390696I mean I was just a teenager going there a few times and was in awe at the intellectual conversations and just jotted down in my head the writers, filmmakers, painters what have you that were being discussed. Nabe always had good looking women around, but I also remember 2 sycophants who were his errand boys or something who just seemed like sniveling dorks, probably hoping to get his leftovers. This was more than ten years ago, the gallery closed down around 2015/2016 or so.
>>25390788I'm well aware, alongside his youtube channel 'éclats de Nabe'. He documented his days in the gallery.
