>dude the blue in the curtain doesn’t represent anything, its just fucking blue, okay?
>>25473082because the room has 200000000 details in it, that all could be mentioned, but aren't because they're irrelevant. like the colour of the drapes. you know how much I think about the colour of my drapes? I literally couldn't tell you their colour, and I look at them every day. I guess they're brown. or white. or gray? I honestly don't know. but it's mentioned anyway. why?
>>25473291Just to paint a picture of the scene, which doesn't require describing every object present in explicit detail. When an author introduces a new character and briefly describes their appearance, do you read complex subtext into their hair color too?
>>25473331Okay, the curtains are blue, but what shade of blue? And what kind of fabric? Were they open or closed? Are they the kind that slides or the kind that has to be tied? Is there light coming through them? Which direction does the window face, what time of day was it, what was the weather like, were there any trees or anything that might cast a shadow through the window? Actually, was there even a window? You only mentioned drapes, not a window. Please, paint this picture of the drapes for me.
>>25473331>just paint a picture of the sceneTHAT’S WHAT HE DID AAAAAAAAAGH
>>25473364The blue drapes were heroin you dumb rube
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>>25472151This chaotic assemblage of words is a stellar monument to the absolute collapse of analytical understanding.>>25472381Both are merely symbolic representations of deficient, one-sided moments of an unresolved dualism. That being said. Asuka. >>25472382A simple mind just demonstrates how crude understanding can reduce the sublime speculative relation of Spirit, down to some vulgar, animalistic immediacy. >>25472502Speculative philosophy holds no interest in the contingent, accidents of skin color or lineage. Right and freedom are determined solely by universal Reason.Thus, the world-historical project of the self-unfolding Spirit is the realization of absolute freedom.A universal necessity that remains untouched by natural transience and category.>>25472390Fine. You have caught me. I maintain that analytical science must be exoteric and universally accessible, but you rightly exposed that my system is profoundly saturated with Hermeticism, Kabbalism and Alchemy. Not only in the Böhmean triads of my Logic, I drew deeply on the Western mystic counter-tradition. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25470812>factually wronghegel never concerned himself with facts. get out of here, poseur.
>>25473010Bold claim.
>>25472390>>25472688Too much of a stretch. Hegel qualifies his interests in mysticism in both the Encyclopedia and lectures on the history of philosophy. You'd have to deal more with his complaint about the exotericism attributed to both Plato and Aristotle, "When philosophers discourse on philosophic subjects, they follow of necessity the course of their ideas; they cannot keep them in their pockets; and when one man speaks to another, if his words have any meaning at all, they must contain the idea present to him." Of the things he was cagey about, Heine spilled the beans: he didn't think there was a reward for virtuous behavior, either cosmically or in an afterlife, and he thought the stars were lesser in dignity than literal pondscum.
Did Hegel believe in personal immortality or Christ's resurrection?
dis tru?
>>25472430how did he get a gig driving uber eats? in my city all uber eats are delivered by either an african guy on an ebike or an autonomous delivery bot.
>>25472655no idea. he used to be a english tutor to asian kids but now does delivery food stuff
>>25471478The girls at work love to ask what I'm reading; I know that much. Beware /lit/ chuds: if you enjoy history and philosophy, these are considered red flags.
The women who say shit like this date people who need to put their fingers in the paper to read.Yes, I am an angry incel.
>>25473353First of all based pic, second of all I like his and phil, but I also like fiction and poetry. Surely the ladies will not mind this?
Just finished Moby Dick, my God the tangents this book goes on, it's insane.>Hello it's me, Ishmael, I want to write about how this crazy captain's maniacal hunt for a giant fuckass whale>It was really traumatic and at the end everyone fucking died and I am the lone survivor >Also let me spend some time debunking contemporary depiction of whales>Oh and you ought to know the size of a whale in details>Let's explore historical accounts about whales!>Top ten reasons why a whale is actually a fish and not a mammal (and that's a good thing)>Also saint George was probably a whaler and he slew a whale instead of a dragon, let's be honest here folks >Did you know that white things are cool? let me list a few cool white things, like the albatross!Anyway, What did (you) think of Moby dick? I liked it a lot when it was focused on the story.Do you guys have any other maritime book suggestion? Nothing Paul Conrad I already read a bunch of his stuff.It really is true that men yearns for the sea. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25473024I know that genrefaggots can't into subtext but this isn't even subtext, he says it with specific reference to the whale in chapter 36>Hark ye yet again--the little lower layer. All visible objects, man, are but as pasteboard masks. But in each event--in the living act, the undoubted deed--there, some unknown but still reasoning thing puts forth the mouldings of its features from behind the unreasoning mask. If man will strike, strike through the mask! How can the prisoner reach outside except by thrusting through the wall? To me, the white whale is that wall, shoved near to me. Sometimes I think there's naught beyond. But 'tis enough. He tasks me; he heaps me; I see in him outrageous strength, with an inscrutable malice sinewing it. That inscrutable thing is chiefly what I hate; and be the white whale agent, or be the white whale principal, I will wreak that hate upon him.and directly to God in response to a storm in chapter 119Oh! thou clear spirit of clear fire, whom on these seas I as Persian once did worship, till in the sacramental act so burned by thee, that to this hour I bear the scar; I now know thee, thou clear spirit, and I now know that thy right worship is defiance. To neither love nor reverence wilt thou be kind; and e'en for hate thou canst but kill; and all are killed. No fearless fool now fronts thee. I own thy speechless, placeless power; but to the last gasp of my earthquake life will dispute its unconditional, unintegral mastery in me. In the midst of the personified impersonal, a personality stands here. Though but a point at best; whencesoe'er I came; wheresoe'er I go; yet while I earthly live, the queenly personality lives in me, and feels her royal rights. But war is pain, and hate is woe. Come in thy lowest form of love, and I will kneel and kiss thee; but at thy highest, come as mere supernal power; and though thou launchest navies of full-freighted worlds, there's that in here that still remains indifferent. Oh, thou clear spirit, of thy fire thou madest me, and like a true child of fire, I breathe it back to thee.This is also disregarding all the non-dialogue portions of the book that make this clearly about God, like the Pip line I referenced from chapter 93>He saw God's foot upon the treadle of the loom, and spoke it; and therefore his shipmates called him mad.Moby-Dick remains the first filter that someone is likely to encounter that will determine if they are too retarded to interpret theme. This is not hard or especially complex text to interpret, so if you can't you should probably give up on literature until you are a bit older and more patient.
>>25472863>got itAu contraire. Sounds like you never will.
>>25472990>If you think Moby-Dick is an especially long bookMy comment was not meant as a slight to moby dick but as words of encouragement to an anon who seemed dismayed by not being able to write tangents>or if you can’t into the importance of style and themeI'm sure some flew over my head, I'm not perfect and I wasn't always super focused when reading the book. I read where I can and sometimes I get distracted.But for example I can't see any symbolism in the chapter where Ishmael lists all the types of whales and what they're like. If that has any thematic purpose feel free to illuminate me because to me it seemed dry, technical and superfluous.>you’re ngmiI read as a hobby, I didn't know this was a competition.Considering that half of /lit/ is just anons jumping in threads, quoting 15 words from a max characters post and replying with a bad faith gotcha to make themselves feel smarter I don't particularly want to follow the example of those who "made it">we know how truly wise you are.What a brief and therefore witty retort!Worth reiterating that I was trying to encourage an anon by saying that a more coherent and succinct writing style can still be good, I didn't mean to imply that Melville wasn't witty or that I'm more wise than he was because I know to be brief or whatever your epic zinger was meant to insult.Maybe you're better than me at being "into the importance of style and theme" but idk if you're better at understanding those when you can't even understand 4chan posts
>>25472986In comparison to what its talking abiut, most certainly. For a place full of readers most threads are "If you read [Well-known thing] you are a chud/tranny", "X author is chud/tranny". It's very similar to /mu/ where there's a lot more discussion about the type of person who reads/listens to something and celebrity drama then actually talking about music/literature.
This thread is bait and very transparently so.
What is the equivalent to „vampire werewolf playboy millionaire CEO“ in literature aimed at men?
>>25473372Same reason videogames, movies and TV shows are garbage too.Ideology.
>>25473297you're conflating dislike of "anime" per se with dislike of niche and somewhat demeaning fetish tropes.it's like complaining that nobody else shares your tastes in "western cinema" while disingenuously putting Interstellar and 2 Girls 1 Cup together as prime examples thereof
>>25473388I have shamefully spent over $200 on light novel audiobooks of shameless male power fantasy stuff to listen to while I fall asleep. There has been zero western competition and it really stumps me.There used to be stuff like Gor but that is pretty much all gone.
>>25472916>exotic>sexy>dangerousThis.
>>25473297>anime websiteIt isn't 2008 anymore.
A thread for books about economy
>>25472554There's no point arguing with "can't know nuthin" man. He can't recognize any of his implicit preconceptions.
>>25469768>>25469769Whats up with retards posting these long ass images that consists of randomly compiled right wing bullshit like anyone is going to give a fuck. Ive seen similar ones for other random conspiratorial bullshit. Is it like some boomer facebook group that makes these
>>25456091Because of the field is acutely unaware of their own normative bias and end up regurgitating utilitarian empiricist bs whenever they open their mouth. If you talk with a neolib or a lolbert, you'll quickly realize that they're incapable of dissociating moral categories from economic measures>wdym why is it good ? It made the line go up !>>25457808>erm ackshually criticizing a field's epistemics is LE HECKIN CONSPIRACYHe's completely right. Econ used to be more diverse and more open but the neoliberal advent cemented the neoclassical's dominion over the entire field from the 1980s to the mid 2010s. However since neoliberalism has been delegitimized by the 08 crisis there's been new fields that have popped up and criticized the neoclassical dominance (e.g. behavioral econ or MMT) but it's still a slow and gradual transition. >>25470296>>25459514Humans are not reducible to purposeful action. Austrians essentially wind up arguing for an alternate reality where their axioms are true and their conclusions can be derived, but it simply isn't our reality.
>>25473301>Austrians essentially wind up arguing for an alternate reality where their axioms are true and their conclusions can be derived, but it simply isn't our reality.I don't think any of the free market or liberalism defenses, stuff like Road to Serfdom, is apodeictic, but the focus on entrepreneurship, uncertainty, and dynamics is an extremely useful frame for actually doing business. Through the lenses of neoclassical economics, it seems like the only business possible is based around arbitrage.
>>25472428Sorry, I was in a hurry
Besides the KJV, are there any English translations of the Bible with the Apocrypha noteworthy for their style? I’m looking for a Bible to keep me occupied the rest of my life, and I’d like it to have the Apocrypha since I enjoy the extra wisdom books there and I’ve never read the books of the Maccabees. I’d like to have gotten the New Cambridge Paragraph Bible except, well, it’s modernised, so what’s the point? or the Oxford KJV Quatercentenary Edition, but it retains the typographical errors of the 1611 first edition, so what’s the point? It’s impossible to lay hold of Scrivener’s Cambridge Paragraph Bible, or Blayney’s revision with the Apocrypha. So again I ask: other than the KJV, are there any English translations of the Bible with the apocrypha noteworthy for their style?
>>25473332Grow up. Genuinely. Start reading stuff that isn't Semitic mysticism.
What should kids read this year?
>>25469785What are these pomo kids' bullshit books? I'll be reading to my kids what my mom read to me since she fortuitously saved all those paperback picture books. (Thanks mom.) Nothing published beyond the early-mid 2000s is appropriate for children.
>>25469785Madison Grant
>>25469796tl;dr
>>25472323magic tree house goes hard
It all makes sense once you realise and understand that men have a significantly more powerful sex drive/libido compared to women.
>>25472530>Once you pleasure a woman properly, just the once, she will move heaven and hell to be with you againUh, unless she's getting it from other guys too.
>>25473195Women are not really hated. Misogyny is not actually the motive of many actions which are given that motive by feminist "analysis".
>>25472878I'm not a sex god. In fact, in the grand scheme of things, I'm incredibly average.>>25473200A woman will pick you if she's A). emotionally interested in you. and B). you can satisfy her sexually. This does not apply to whores with a 15+ body count, though, as they are physically incapable of bonding with men.
>>25460286nicely written anon, it is a shame that you are completely insane.
>>25473341Women obviously have a much lower sex drive. Look at prostitution pornography consumption, dating app users, behaviour of homosexual men compared to women. Also >>25468654Anecdotes are of little value.
What do we think of Klaus Theweleit's Male Fantasies volumes?
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>>25471531>Klaus Theweleit's Male Fantasies volumesvery representative of a certain style of "thinking" and arguing that sadly seems to never go out of fashion, namely following any tangent of connotation, suggestiveness, generally anything you just have to le feel in your gut is somehow connected to the language you're trying to critique. Add to that copious armchair psychoanalysis and confident guesswork about internal states, a fund indulgence once you're in the flow. Reading works like that simply forces one into the rather blackpilling view that LLMs mimic the "thinking" process of midwits, praticularly of the academician variety, perfectly well; a statistical collation of vast amounts of blindly devoured material, coherent insofar as any chain of associations can look plausible enough with some padding and forcedness.
>>25472828She isn't posting many pictures of herself anymore... I'm scared she got money and started eating and not moving... I'm scared.
No tits, next
>>25472773Her getting chunky is a massive improvement. Imagine huffing the fumes off her after she's been walking around NYC, working up a sweat being a post-ironic retard all day. Delightful.
>What is /phil/ Philosophy General?A general for readers, students, and armchair thinkers interested in philosophy, whether it be Western, Eastern, analytic, continental, ancient, contemporary. We discuss primary texts, secondary literature, online lectures, podcasts.>Why read philosophy?Politics, science, psychology, etc. all began with or were inspired by someone who thought philosophically. Basically, if you are interested in just about anything, philosophy will help you better understand that subject. Because it is at the foundation of every conceptual institution made or discovered by humans, it is in the underbelly of human experience, and so it is worth taking seriously.>Why study philosophy formally?Surprisingly versatile and undervalued. Phil majors consistently score among the highest on the LSAT, GRE, and GMAT. Strong pipeline into law, policy, ethics consulting, AI alignment, and academia.The server: https://discord.gg/uPvkn8Tcf6/phil/ guide: https://www.scribd.com/document/324425214/Lit-Philosophy-Project-1-2Previous thread: >>25400610
>>25471975>many of them were close to atheism and skepticism and were persecuted for itBe careful with the secondary sources. This sounds almost fedorian.
>>25471841a right reason I guess would be knowing that you want to major philosophy, which requires an understanding of ones self and philosophy. I don't think 18 year olds have an understanding of either.
>>25471982it's an objective fact that many of them were persecuted for violating Church dogma and even imprisoned
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>>25471801how the fuck doesn't this apply to everything else
>went from being 5 books behind schedule to merely being 2 books behind (my reading challenge is 20 books this year)Yeah I'm thinking we're back.How are y'all holding up?
>>25473217Are you 12 lmao? What is this
>>25473287the irony meme with the watermark on it is your first giveaway. young zommers cannot show any genuine emotion, to them it's cringe
>>25473299Cope
>>25473217How DO you read a book? I’ve honestly just been winging it all this time. I didn’t bother to read the official strategy guide.
>>25473320I'm the anon making fun of OP. You want to know what Mortimer's answer literally is? Read fast, in a paste you can understand, in works such as fiction. Read slow in works such as none fiction (philosophy, political, also biographies if you want) and take notes preferably. It is almost of 400 pages of this crap bro, it is so boring.
>I do not believe in "good vs evil" dichotomy stupidity >I only believe in Weak (negative) Vs Strong (positive)So you believe in good vs evil?>NONONONO, don't word it like!!! It's cuckoldry!!!!!!
semantics is the essence of philosophy
>>25473262I can measure good/evil objectively.Make some big scales.Put me on one side. You on the other. Good and evil measured.
>>25473250thing vs thing is not a moral judgment, will to power is a metaphysical principlemoralfags are mentally brainraped
Taoism does this better than Western attempts at transcending the dichotomy. The Tao is genuinely not "good vs evil." Insofar as one of them would even be called 'evil' it'd be Yang, but Yang is as essential for the function of the universe as Yin is.
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Are there any books that will help me become more joyful?
Gargantua & Pentagruel. But step one is to stop reading these jewish books of demoralizing nonsense.
>>25472520The Book of Not Being a Pussy
>>25472523>cock ball torture workbooknow i'm intrigued
>>25472520Why did he say it again?
>>25472520>You are just someone's stupid sheep. Be happy about it!Fuck that shit.>>25473144First rule of hypnotists is to repeat yourself to the subject. Preachers do this all the time.
Utterly btfo’d by dialectical materialism. How do people still read Kant and Hegel unironically?
>>25472395There's too much spooky shit in the world for materialism to be true. Even stuff that's left a record you can examine.
>>25472395>dialectical materialismDiamat is so comically terrible that half of the marxist intellegentsia has tried painting it as a misinterpretation of Marx's dialectic by Engels.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectical_materialism#Engels_debate_and_critiques_of_Soviet_%22diamat%22The whole thing is in essence a pseudo-ontology crafted from retrospectively applying fixed categories that are so universal onto matter itself>KantIdealism is the concept that ideas drive history. It's not about whether or not we can derive certainty about objectivity.
>>25472395>dialectical materialism.Out of all of the forms of materialism why did you pick the worst one>>25472450Ok I can grant that; Idealism is cope... now what? Is it any more or any less false
>>25473283half of the marxist intelligentsia is in a neverending fight with the other half no matter which niche they represent, they're not a good representation of anything
>>25472395>How do people still read Kant and Hegel unironically?Without Hegel you wouldn't even have dialectical materialism --- at lest not from marx.Unironically have you even read marx?
