What's your personal favorite translation of The Odyssey?
>>25427584> when she prays to himPraises him*
Who would you guys recommend to read if I only have Lattimore's? I guess a more poetic compliment?
>>25427640>a more poetic complimentFitzgerald has the best Odyssey
Has anyone read the Mendelsohn's translation? I've heard really good things.
>>25427584>cities that are technically part of “Ithaca” such as SameSamos was a whole other island and not 'technically part of Ithaka', in the same way that Taphos was not part of Ithakaif it was part of Ithaka, it wouldn't be described this way in book 4>Off in the middle channel lies a rocky island,>just between Ithaca and Same’s rugged cliffs—>Asteris—not large, but it has a cove,>a harbor with two mouths where ships can hide.>If any of that were true Odysseus would have mentioned it in his reply to Eurymachus. speech is almost never exhaustive of all relevant matters under consideration>The suitors were cowards who would have followed whatever Odysseus did.the point is, perhaps not, when they were no longer in immediate mortal danger>The worst case would be the suitors starting a war after leaving, which wouldn’t be any worse than the war that was actually about to start.as I clearly stated, it would have been much worse if they were allowed to disperse, because then they'd be able to attack at any timeComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Be honest /lit/. Have much Voltaire have you read?
>>25427718None. I don't read spiritual redditors.
>>25427800Rousseau and Montesquieu are decent>>25427802Germans actually are better, Pierre. Nice psyop.
>>25427718All the tales, and some of the plays. The contemporaries were correct and he's one of the very great playwrights and the best of the 18th century (that includes Goethe, Baumarchais, etc). The dictionnary is fine. >>25427739Least deranged inferiority complex germaboo bringing such baggage out of nowhere. Btw we all know you're a larper. Perhaps brown or, worse, American. Literate Germans would know the importance of Voltaire to German letters.
Just Candide. It was fun but it didn't make me want to explore anything else from him. Is he actually worth getting into?
>>25427739You're barely literate if this is true.
Is the so evil Talmud a book of explicit rules for jews or more of debates and arguments?
>>25428905>racism: :)>racism jews :(
>>25429847There is no such thing as someone who isn’t a hypocrite. It’s part of the human condition. Yes, racism is good, and yes, every single jew on earth needs to be killed.
>>25429835>reads context>nothing changes
>>25428890It's just a compilation. There are 2, btw. One of them is more legalistic than the other. They have fables, fantastic stories, myth, etc. It has every opinion and debate over every single little thing related to jewish law. >>25429061This. It's massive and extremely boring. >>25429835I would say that, the most interesting thing about it is the way it's written and the story. It was never supposed to be written, it was a big sin to write it down for the rabbis who did it. In the same way that many stories and passages in the Bible, many of the arguments are very condensed. It is done intentionally, because the book itself is meant to encourage debate over what the rabbis meant. Since it is written down oral tradition, they particularly tried to keep it as short as possible, to avoid the distortions that are proper of the nature of text as a permanent medium. The pages' geography is extremely interesting, having the main piece that is the topic of the debate in the middle and several opinions around it. It almost pictures a table where people sit down to debate. The Talmud also doesn't say anything final. That's the entire point of the book. It's just a record, but also meant to keep the discussion going, which is why the arguments are presented in their purest, most basic form. Context in the Talmud isn't only found within the book, but as it is a record of the arguments along Jewish history, the context is also to be found in history itself, the time period in which the arguments were made gives insight to the mentality of the authors. A fun fact is that, the way the Talmud is written was cited as inspirstion for the creation of hypertext, which became the main way clickable links work today.
>>25428905so?it's not le good in a very modern sense of the wordwho cares
More EVIL BOOKS like this?
>>25423210imagine getting murdered by a guy named pee wee
>>25423369the lady doth protest too much
>>25428750Just dick the evil out of them
>>25423210>I just got auto banned on discord for posting this chartIt's over for me?
>>25429627Welp, expect some guests soon.
She deserved betterI want to cryWhy can't we kill the devil?
>>25429993Who? Terrible painting by the way, very kitsch.
>>25429995Faust's lover
>>25429995it has a soul. what would you have preferred 'non
>>25430026It’s always a dead giveaway that someone is over thirty when they use the last syllable instead of the first for an abbreviation or contraction. Like using “yam” instead of “will” or snexual instead of tranny
>athena and hera say no fighting >achilles proceeds to rhythmically insult Agamemnon for a whole page>after he already insulted him through poetry thoroughly is the entire story just rap battles? where is the action? I'm a /tv/ Nolan tourist btw.
>>25429485How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
>>25429655>>25429724Embarrassing smoothbrained opinions.
>>25429485>rap battleLike this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhMsQWH4Cqc
>>25429775where did i lose you?
>>25429724homer is dead, idiot. you couldn't offend him if you tried.
Why are young people finding it increasingly difficult to read narrative texts in third person?
>>25429354I think it's more like they are trying to imagine "who is talking? who is telling me this?" The author we all thought died is now getting resurrected by these plebs in order to keep him accountable for what he wrote so he can get judged and cancelled and held responsible for potential butthurt caused by a typo in pronouns or whatever.
I never bothered thinking about this, but do we have a book that is entirely written in second person (apart from self-help bullshit)
>>25429965I wonder how it would work considering you have to write romance bdsm for women Something like : " i felt like his little bitch,feeling his hands stretching my asshole, tickles going throught my body that i couldn't move cause of the ropes. He was moaning like a lion feeling his dick filling my pussy with it's wet cock when suddenly it hurted.it hurted so hard but the pain was a pleasure k couldn't describe -You love that fucking whore. -yes please. He was fucking my asshole and he didn't even ask me. I can't describe this intense feeling and pain. The bad pleasure of being treated like an object,a sex slave. He could do whatever he wants with me - please fuck me hard in the ass daddy. He doubled it's speed,moaning like an animal and i just cummed like that,like a slave pleasuring my master who was filling me with it's dick,hurting me without giving a fuck. That's what i wanted and i wanted him to keep going like that for hours."Something like that ? You could also paraphrase pietro l'aretino some of it's porn writings are exciting.
>>25426736Is this a thing?I feel like third person is by far the best/easiest way to create in your head a scene and watch the story unfoldLike what are we even talking about here, are people unironically self-inserting?
>>25430007I jack off before bed a lot and reading that nearly put me to sleep. Should I be worried? Is this a safe pavlovian reaction?
I shipped $2000 worth of books from my parents' house to my apartment but they got lost in transit.
>>25424423Package thieves don't know what's in a box before they take it. I had an ARC of Pynchon's Mason & Dixon stolen from my doorstep while I was at work once
I just received a mystery box of books I estimate to be worth about $2K, lucky me!
>>25424411it's this, yeah. there's a ton of ramps and conveyor belts that boxes have to go on and a 40lb box of books is going to have a lot of momentum and tear itself apart even if the workers did everything rightwhat often happens is that the box is shredded upstream and by the time it reaches an actual human it's in ones-and-twos and nobody even knows what box they even came from. not much to do but toss them.really sorry this happened OP. honestly there's not a ton you could have done differently, shipping a large quantity of books is a nightmare
>>25428205>honestly there's not a ton you could have done differentlyCould've used a box rated for the weight in it and taped the seams properly, but apart from that, nothing could have been done
>>25429368lol yeah? you thinking there a lot of shipping boxes rated for 40+lb that could survive UPS sorting factories?there's a reason boxes aren't rated for how much weight they can hold but rather by the edge crush testthe only practical solution is to split it into boxes around 5-10lb each
What’s the point of posting here if the end of the universe is inevitable and not even the Odyssey will be remembered by anyone well before the human species die?
Every living being will experience the universe, and therefore the "end" is more like a mathematical limit than something that will ever actually arrive.
>>25428917>What moon math are you usingThe same exact math your Lambda-CDM cosmologists uses to conclude an infinite universe can exist at all:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_paradoxThe main problem is that the conundrum the paradox claims to resolve still fails to consider the infinite possible permutations *before* the initial conception of our universe; why is there an ordered, low entropy state instead of a maximally entropic one? Where does "work" come into play if we're only ever observe it in high entropy conditions (like our current universe)?>and why is it more genius then accepted models?You don't have any unifying theory to act so pompous, eat shit.
>>25429236*uses to conclude an infinite universe cannot exist
>>25429236>Nothing says humble argument like eat shit. There's no Unified field theory? That's news.
>>25429981>>Nothing says humble argument like eat shit.I don't need to pretend to be with cretins like you.>There's no Unified field theory?Post your nobel peace prize.
actress Ally Sheedy wrote a book when she was 12?!
what is this image, op? a pic for mice?!?!?!?
>>25428305But that says "Alexandra Elizabeth Sheedy"
>>25428314SNEEDY
>>25428305Always thought she was cuter than Ringwald when I was a teen. How's the book? Written by a 12 year old and looks like it's a kids book, I'd read it to my kids probably if I had any. Def won't be seeking this out any further than a thrift store book shelf though
De consolatione editio>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·>>25396989>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw>Mέγα τὸ ANE·https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg>Work in progress FAQhttps://rentry dot co/n8nrkoAll Classical languages are welcome.
>>25425448Roll
>>25425448>>25429031>Interim Hludowicus rex gravi dolore contristatus, videns regnum deleri, convocato exercitu praeparat se ad proelium.The king, seeing his realm attacked, prepares for war.>At Nortmanni omnia prospera agentes cum magno exercitu fluvium Sumnam mense Iulio transeunt, cuncta vastantes more solito usque prope civitatem Belvagorum.omnia prospera agentes = homines quibus cuncta negotia feliciter proceduntThe Normans make their way to Beauvais, laying waste to all on the way.>Hludowicus vero rex cum exercitu transiens Hisam fluvium Latverum tendere coepit, quo credebat Nortmannos redire.The king's army moves to Laviers, where the king believed the Normans would return.>Missis itaque exploratoribus, nuntiant redire eos honustos a praeda.Spies announce the return of the Normans.>Contra quos rex ire perrexit obviavitque eos in pago Witmau, in villa quae dicebatur Sathulcurtis, et commissum est proelium.The army meets the Normans and the battle begins.>Moxque Nortmanni fugam ineunt atque dictam villam deveniunt; quos rex insecutus est gloriosissimeque de eis triumphavit.deveniunt = perveniuntComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>3 months learning attic greek. >working on participlesIs this a good pace? Still feel like an absolute beginner
Old Norse seems fun, and not terribly hard, but the size of its corpus is offputting
>>25423368Roll
Wow I can't wait>The Shadow of the Object - Chloe Aridjis - Making friends with a weird old woman in hospitalSwitzy - Emma Cline - Retired exec winding down his life>Helen of Nowhere - Makenna Goodman - Very strange realtor inspectionThe End of Everything - M John Harrison - Man finds something unsettling at the beach>The Disappearers - Marlon James - Gay Jamaicans doing emotional recovery togetherBlack Bag - Luke Kennard - A man gets a job to sit in a body bag during university lectures>The Renovation - Kenan Orhan - Contractors build a functioning Turkish prison instead of a new bathroomMay We Feed the King - Rebecca Perry - Curator becomes obsessed with an old king>The Palm House - Gwendoline Riley - Trying to stop a friend from sliding into the abyssThe Things We Never Say - Elizabeth Strout - Disillusioned man discovers a secret about himself>John of John - Douglas Stuart - Gay guy has to move back in with his dad who hates gaysAll Them Dogs - Djamel White - Gay Irish gangsters doing gay gangster shit>The Vivisectors - Missouri Williams - Spy shit but at a university and there's too many plants around
>>25429265I just want to know what the big secret is, I dont actually care that much about the plot. Can I get ChatGPretard to spoil it for me? The AI bots tend to be retarded when it comes to writing.
>>25429234>"The Shadow of the Object" is a brilliant title,btw it's lifted from a famous line in Freud's paper "Mourning and Melancholia:" "Thus the shadow of the object fell upon the ego"
>>25428955I know for a fact (at least) one of these was written with the help of AI.
>>25429788I find it to be erotic. Reminds me of a movie called "The Whip and The Body". Which I'm going to download now.
>>25429015She looks so mean
"Learn how to write" editionPrevious: >>25416717/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQRESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvCPlease limit excerpts to one post.Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.Discuss the written works below for practice; contribute, and you shall receive.If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.Expect critique, not praise.Shitposters should be ignored and reported.>Beginner guides on writing:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
is anyone here working on an 'internet' book?
>>25429855i've been taking notes for a non-fiction one.
>>25429887well i actually wanted to talk about internet fiction, but still that's cool. about what specifically, if you don't mind sharing?
>>25429855Go to the web novel general
Can AI find stories I wrote in the past?Should I delete all smut stories?
>I look at paintings to feel emotions!>I listen to music to feel emotions!>I read books to feel emotions!Only brainlets do this.
>>25426115I hate relativists too. Sucks that sometimes objective truth is complicated enough for them to just feign ignorance and pick the parts they like.
>>25423867get drunk to feel emotions
>>25426115I do the same but the other way around :->Mostly because the emotional immaturity of the absolute triggers me. Grow up and learn that holding contradicting positions is the closest we get to experience truth and beauty
women and faggots have a sort of kinship around the feeling that their sexuality is repressed by society. Women are actually terribly afraid of being labeled as whores, and gays have the usual fear of being lynched for liking cock. The funny part is that one of the ways they decide to just say fuck it all is just to whore themselves out as much as they can as a sort of rebelious act
>>25427040>um actually believing in destructive monstrous contradictions is good because the only thing that matters is me and mine, i am a servant of evil who tries to destroy the idea of truth2+2=4 GO FUCK YOURSELF
Is it slop?
>>254260692035 is easily the best what the fuck are you talking about
>>25422501I was gonna read it, i did my standart screening on the author, i found out he was israeli and immediatly blacklisted from my reading list, to answer your question, yes it is subversive diarrhea
>>25426784Metro exodus moggs
Its one of the rare books ive ever read. Was prolly like 17 at the time. Enjoyed it, but the sequels are a bit meh
ive read it when i was like 13-14 and enjoyed it but at that time my media literacy was zero so idk if i would like it now
