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>>24189022meeneen ayeeday theyawwww
this would be different in koiné and attic, no? google tells me modern greek has the accusative case, but duolingo has'nt showed it to me yet
>>24189085yea
>tfw you'll never be a δοῦλος to a κᾰλός κόρη
>>24190159>ᾰexposed
Can someone recommend some ANTI-antinatalist literature? I'm severely struggling to justify anything at this point. Is bringing children into the modern era the greatest act of ignorance and selfishness? How does a rational person justify it?
>>24182119>people feel pain and suffer in much the same way, and none of them like it.lol,i literally used to cut myself regularly 10 years ago and the only reason i stopped is because i was afraid my wounds would get infected.
>>24189195If Adam and Eve had been anti-natalists it would have been the definitive middle finger to God. Because Idk maybe God would have had to create new human beings free of original sin. And billions wouldn't have gone to hell, etc, etc.>>24189211You're a creep then. I'm not saying most people aren't freaks though.
>>24181591Retard, suffering is experienced because of consciousness. consciousness is not a human thing.conscientiousness and pain is the problem, regardless of the host.and consciousness exists objectively, therefore pain is objectively bad.
>>24190184>consciousness and pain is the problem*
>>24186978Negative Utilitarianism gets me rock hard, I don't know why. even if you convinced me that suffering isn't a problem somehow, I'd still engage in NU anyways because it gets so dark and epic fast.
So, recently while looking for books on "logistics", I discovered a Dutch author by the name of Bart Lammers, who wrote what is essentially a novel about the life of a logistics-managers, called "Het Pakhuis" or "The Warehouse", now I haven't read it yet, it's due to arrive, but this makes me ask the question, are there any more novels about this kind of subject, of someone working for, or in a warehouse and describing the day to day happenings?Primarily life on the floor? It's such an interesting subject, in my 15+ years I have worked at the front-office, as a reach-trucker, etc and I have so many stories to tell it's insane, actually thinking about writing a short story, well anyone, does anyone have any recommendations?
>>24189773Some of the subject I would love to discuss, the constant chaos going on in such a place, the ridiculous characters, drug use, theft, working with a person with aspergers, the insane boss who shouts at everyone, workroom romances, etc.
>>24189773>>24189779This sounds interesting. I wish I had more to add but the only thing I can think of to compare to this are a few DFW short stories about market research and Kobo Abe sometimes
>>24189773You could check out Magnus Mills. He was a fence builder/bus driver and started writing novels with blue-collar setting. Haven't read them yet but I think he likes to inject some satire into his stories.
>>24190002Thank, you going on my list.
Anyway, some insane happenings that happened at my work.- Insane scheme by a punch of Poles too steal all the expensive liquor, which worked for months.- A Romanian truck-driver stealing all the toilet-paper in the supply closet.- A truck-driving getting so angry, he rammed his truck against the dock, causing his load to ram it's way inside.- Months working with a man slowly going insane.- Someone tripping over a forklift and breaking his ankle.- A young mulatto girl sucking off anyone who was interested.etc... so much weird shit
Let's see the poems you're writing. Or if you're not writing any, you can post some written by other people. Or you can just discuss poetry more generally
https://files.catbox.moe/qsbh3x.pdfI parodied part of Paradise Lost as a bit of a shitpost (130 lines to be exact)the original lines are included in the document for posterity
>>24189755r u d oxygen drama guy
>>24189888...yesam I that obvious?
Are greek themes kitsch? I love the mythology and its archetypical characters and tales but I wonder if it would be seen as kind of passe, either played straight or modernized.
>>24190166They are yeah. Use the greeks if you REALLY know what you are doing otherwise it comes across as a needlessly antiquated type of pretentious kitsch slop. Because most people, intellectual or not, who see greek imagery needlessly plastered around just go "yup this is trying a little too hard to sound smart" and most of the time yeah it is. You don't need to modernize or try to replicate their style, just explore other pathways of greek imagery that seem interesting and shine a new or interesting perspective on things. While im not a big Borges fan and it aint poetry, The House Of Asterion shortsie does this idea perfectly. If you don't feel extremely confident in dedicating yourself to the greek bit while not just repeating the same stuff that's been said for millenia, don't try it.
any recs? bands, drugs, general life, even fiction, that covers that post beatnik 65-71 period would be great
Ginsberg, Sartre, De Beauvoir, other pedophiles.
doesn't slouching toward bethlehem cover that?
there are probably a bunch of books about the early days of the greatful dead but i'm not gonna be the one to google them for u
>>24190138Where do Sartre and de Beauvoir specifically cover the post-beatnik era?
Books to make my life meaningful somehow?I find myself in despair because I didn't achieve any of my goals and I'm really far from them and lately I haven't been finding any purpose to live besides them.
>>24182781>>24182790This, you don't have to be systematic, just whatever interests you. Epictetus' enchiridion is a good place to start and to work with while you keep learning.>>24185383This is also good stuff, also the outer chapters obviously. Also Confucius. Ultimately, I don't think you don't need a purpose to live. Just take care of yourself and your loved ones, try and be better than yesterday but don't beat yourself up if you aren't, be honest with yourself and do what makes sense to you. (Pic rel probably isn't Aristotle btw afaik)
>>24189465>just do stuff>just fall in love>just stop caring pepe.pngRevolutionary advice
>>24189527Did you expect it to be complicated?
>>24189465>stormfagNobody under the age of 35 who isn't a Jew or paid off by Zionists cares about your victim narrative. If this "based" jew was so cool he would have just written a philosophy book and not included the propaganda about masturbation machines and whatnot. LE HECKING BANALITY OF EVIL GOYIM. How can ya be depressed when they put us on rollercoaster rides of DEATH??
>>24189657I didn’t find that book that useful or interesting but it’s obvious you havent read it at all
I recently finished the autobiography of Malcolm X and was kind of blown away by how discovering Islam in prison lead to this radical transformation from being another hustler to something more.It made me really "get" religion and understand its power even though the book doesn't go much into the theology of Islam more than the basics that everyone sort of knows I'm wondering if there is a book that is like this but for Christianity as I feel more affiliation with it than Islam
>>24186172The Gospels. There's no "getting" religion if you don't like the texts - Malcolm saw himself reflected in the Quran and the NOI because of his personal relationship with white Christians. American Christians are all a farce for the most part that barely believe in Jesus and view Christianity as it was depicted in Blood Meridian. Overall, you should try to admit to yourself you will never have your on empire, etc., and will be an actor rather than a witness in your lifetime.
>>24186885He just found out after leaving the USA white people were like that because of some made up terror in their minds, not because they we were white. The only white Americans he had ever met tried to kill him/his family and did everything possible to ruin his life.
>>24187395Disagree, that's just how white people read the book. He was a pretty normal guy overall, I hate them too for similar reasons today, understanding that white is just an aesthetic and state of mind
>>24189832I'm not sure what you mean. I'm not trying to paint Malcom himself as the standout, but the fact that he represented NoI is something most modern people do not understand the significance of. Both in that their creed is completely incompatible with actual Islam, and in that their cause explicitly pro-segregation. The last I'm not being judgmental about, it's just an extremely important distinction a reader from today might miss or gloss over.>I hate them too for similar reasons today, understanding that white is just an aesthetic and state of mindThat's not a similar reason given that NoI taught that whites are intrinsically evil literal devils created by a big-headed Egyptian scientist.
>>24190136Sorry, Meccan, not Egyptian
How did the "is-ought gap" ever get any traction among people who aren't moral anti-realists?If there are facts about what is truly better or worse in some situations (and there is a very strong case for this), and reason tells us about facts, then reason tells us what is better or worse.Fact statements like:>Your hair is on fire!>You're hurting her.>You're investing in a company that is about to announce bankruptcy.>If you keep doing that you're going to break it.>Etc.All *imply* certain actions as responses.How does Hume get away with it without implicitly presupposing a sort of anti-realism? He seems to assume that desire is irrational off the bat, but this itself seems to presuppose that there is no fact of the matter as to which desires are truly choiceworthy.Plus, older philosophers all thought reason/the rational part of the soul had its own desires, the desire to know truth ("all men by nature desire to know" - Aristotle). The intellect is attracted to Truth, the will to the Good, and then Beauty relates to both Will and Intellect. Here, we seem to have the will being attracted to a sort of arbitrary plurality of goods, and intellect attracted to nothing.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24188469>Am I missing something?Yes.Philosophizing begins and ends with ethics, and the more interesting component of it is metaphysics. Epistemology is answered by the other two automatically and is sort of useless as a discipline for this reason.Your instincts about moral anti realism as a necessary invocation are in the right place. But to get more to the point...whatever you decide about ethics, is whatever you'll come to believe about everything else in the world. Even scientific facts will be decided by your values, and this explains what free will is in actual practical reality. Let's look at one of your examples:"You're investing in a company that is about to commit bankruptcy."Well in all reality, whatever the person's ethical belief system is will dictate how they respond to this, not their reason or other philosophical assumptions. Most people innately hold the ethical value that their own self preservation is something worth maximizing when there is clear danger and no cost to others. But obviously, someone, somewhere probably doesn't. Does this make their view objectively illogical? If you hold the ethical view that maximizing your self preservation when there is immediate threat and no cost to others is not important or perhaps even bad, then you would not see it as illogical. As for whether this constitutes anti realism or not, to state what I just stated, this too comes down to ethics. In my view, I see reality, and you do not. Same for Hume. Thus, the bulk of philosophy is totally mindless regurgitation of how one answers two basic questions:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24189416Yes. Do you really think this is a gotcha? Are you this dumb?
>>24188469It's easier to think of it in terms of syllogisms. The basic claim is that one cannot go from:>Drowning is badTo>You should avoid drowningWithout an intervening premise of>We ought not do things that are bad for us And yes, under the classical view this is indeed somewhat facile because to call something (truly) bad is to say that it is not truly desirable, not truly worth of choosing, and so you could also render:>Drowning is bad for usAs>Drowning is that which is truly not choiceworthyFrom which>We should choose to try to avoid drowningComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24189926Aquinas has totally different starting premises and a much broader (we might say less impoverished) conception of the intellect as more than just ratio the way Enlightenment thinkers do.>For Aquinas, the intellect and the will are the two great powers of the mind.1 The intellect, simply put, is the capacity for understanding and thought, or a power of apprehension and knowing. The intellect is “the rational agent’s cognitive power.”2 On the other hand, the will is “an innate positive inclination towards the good. It is that aspect of a rational agent which disposes her to pursue what she considers good.”3 Thus, the will can be understood as a natural appetite or inclination for goodness. The goodness that the will seeks is not any particular good thing, but rather goodness in general. The act of determining which particular good to seek is the job of the intellect, which produces evaluative judgments about certain things, events, or states of affairs, and then presents these to the will as good. After particular objects have been presented to the will as good, the will, in turn, seeks these objects because the will is a natural appetite for the good. So with regard to particulars that are judged to be good, “the will is the power toComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24190042For example: Hume would think that to condemn Epstein we would need a premise in the form of a maxim like: "you should not coerce adolescent girls into sex."The pre-moderns would agree with the maxim, but offer an explanation from nature and virtue. Epstein would have been more happy had he fostered his capacity to be in a deep, spiritual marriage. Instead, he became a slave to his appetites, such that they consumed and eventually ruined his whole life, driving him to despair and suicide (maybe lol, but either way, the ruined him).Would Epstein have been fine if he just wasn't caught? No, because man's happiness is greater when he participates fully in common goods, as a husband, father, citizen, partitioner, teacher, etc. Not all happiness is zero sum. But being able to participate in such common goods requires no chasing zero sum pleasures of the appetites, not being ruled over by appetite and passions. They have an argument against Epstein's way of life from human nature, and it can at least be made plausible.In particular, they will argue that the man of virtue is most insulated from bad fortune, most self-determining in his happiness. Socrates is happy as he prepares for death, St. Francis is happy with nothing, Dante finds true happiness in exile under threat of death. Whereas someone dependent on access to sex, riches, and status can always lose these, while they also seem unable to participate fully in both common human goods and higher spiritual and aesthetic and intellectual goods to the extent that their experience and desires remain totally grounded in base appetites.Certainly, St. Paul and St. Ireneus seem sublime in brutal ancient prisons awaiting grizzly deaths, while many celebrities who have many women, great wealth, and the highest status end up in despair, killing themselves or engaging in suicidal drug habits. So, like I said, it's at least plausible.We have a general inclination towards the Good, and towards pleasure, but the intellect shapes how the will both seeks these and what it is ultimately attracted to. If there are facts about what is truly best to seek, then it would be the intellect that knows this and informs the will. This doesn't work if the intellect is deflated to just ratio, mere calculation. You need a broad vision of the intellect, the nous of the ancients, with both intellectus / noesis and discursive calculation.
Dear /lit/,I write this thread as an attempt to give some advice and guidance for younger Anons who feel that literature and writing is their calling. My example is a negative one; allow my flaws and failures to help you avoid making the same mistakes.In my early twenties I was convinced that writing was my true calling in life. Financial success, romantic success and other popular ideals about living a good life were almost absent in my thoughts. Writing was to be the defining factor in the success or failure of my life.However, several major flaws in my character prevented this ambition from materializing and now I am trapped in an obscure, low-paid job, my life in ruins, my past a catalogue of failures, and my future bleak.An important thing to establish early on is a good name for yourself, at the very least a clean conscience. If you tarnish or besmirch your reputation and name, this failure alone will serve to cripple you creatively and spiritually. A man with a pure will and a good conscience, who can confront the world and everyone in it with a good heart, can achieve anything. Regardless of the hatred and envy of others, you can move forward in life, even if you are penniless, even if you are completely alone, and still make something of yourself.The second thing is to have confidence in yourself. Despite the rejections, despite the anonymity, despite the frustrations and the torture of life passing with nothing to show for it. Believe in yourself despite your self-doubts. Maintain the conviction that with enough hard work, effort and self-belief your work will one day be recognised and acknowledged, if only in the smallest of ways.
>>24188864"Sure" what?
"Wanting to make art without experiencing failure is like wanting to go to heaven without dying" - Russell Edson. Keep going. Be the wheat not the chaff.
>>24187188Keep going anon. Getting as far as you’ve gotten is a great accomplishment. Consider it a halfway point, maybe take a break but to commit to hold it out awhile longer
>>24180311Good advice.
>>24180389>Any number of actual writers seem to have overcome this obstacle well enough.
This seems to be a rather underappreciated area of art lit, so I'm interested in anyone's recommendations. Particularly focused on the styles and principles of traditional Western sculpture, as most of the books I've read have been about modern sculpture.
>>24189307This is a great one. Very insightful commentary from a genius on other geniuses.
>>24189471What happened to his sister is a shame
>>24189533I got confused for a second, I meant Claudel, pretty sad story
>>24189307If you are interested in the process of sculpture I read this one once and found it fascinating. Even though I was not planning on making a bronze sculpture I found the explanation of how it's done very detailed and interesting.
>>24190073u got anything that can like translate to like digital sculpture like zbrush u feel me
Does anyone else notice that the weird trend of people reactionary and unnecessarily close-minded and harsh towards certain storytelling elements, tropes or concepts?One of the biggest ones that I can think of is the concept of grey morality, people wanting stories to be mostly black and white with very little nuance. This is mostly blamed on stories such as A Song of Ice and Fire/Game Of Thrones.Other one's that I constantly see being thrashed for no reason are:>Humans are the real monsters>Good or benevolent demonsIt's a part of this weird reactionary conservatism that seems to surround storytelling discussions now.
>>24189113We just want realism. Morality is not grey in real life, and hasn't been at least since Ayn Rand.
>>24189248>reactionThat's not why it's called "reactionary"Maybe look up meanings of words before using them.
>>24189808He didn't try to equate it with real world racism once throughout the entire video.
>>24189113It's just internet contrarians who signal hatred for anything popular.
>>24190083This
So what did we all think?honest reviews only.
>>24189162Oh look, a germanic faggot.Subspecies that's never accomplished anything without begging for scraps from the Latins or warring with the Celts or Slavs always talking shit like they aren't the jews of europe.
>>24189408The jews of Europe are the poles. If you are white, I forgive you. If you aren't, I don't care about you at all.
>>24189404I didn't say they were wrong but you are.
y'll niggas bitchless fr no cap
>>24189375>addresses nothing>cries about a fucking em dashI accept your concession, faggot.
I'm still investigating, but everything indicates that I'm on the right path to finding this city.
Here’s a mix of my favorite books along with some ones I just got. What does everyone think?Post your stacks
>>24172233Felt my blood pressure rise looking at that pic, good bait anon
>>24172470The Zhuangzi is interesting, he made an appearance for a few pages in Vita Contemplativa by Byung-Chul Han. I was considering getting some stuff by him, is your edition there good or should I go for another translation/collection? Also, how do you like him?
>>24173240I enjoyed the end of eternity (though I could have gone without the descriptions of time periods where women didn't wear shirts). Good stuff. The stuff they ripped from that book was the only interesting stuff put in that mid marvel show Loki
>>24185170>Skull Cults & Corpse BridesQrd?
>>24174833I love Simon Weil. There are so many authors who write essays where you just feel like they're putting down a collection of incredibly average thoughts on a random topic. Weil is lovely because whenever you read her you're always surprised by the depth of what she has to say on the given topic. The next time I'm interested in the nature of social obligations I'll be picking up my copy of The Need For Roots
post attractive box sets
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>>24189266publisher of this one?
I put my books in a bookshelf
Hey I own that.