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Why do you even read books? is it for escapism, do you genuinely think you are improving your knowledge or that reading some new obscure philosophy will fill in the "gaps", is it to use said knowledge to improve your real life? What's your motivation on spending so many hours reading instead of doing something else?
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>>24761379
I read because otherwise I'd be bored.
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because imagination is fun. creating detailed, original, internally contrasting at every level yet always cohesive worlds or works is what god does, and is where our aesthetic appreciation comes from. its an inherently worthwhile thing to do.
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>>24761379
All of those are true
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>>24761379
I find it enjoyable and think certain books offer valuable insights into the human condition.
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I read books because:
>it makes me a better writer
>it improves my vocabulary
>I enjoy it
>the stories written by geniuses are amazing in their complexity and beauty
>it teaches me about other cultures, older eras, and how based we once were
>when I read I feel like I did something productive, and not just wasted my day on porn or politics

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"Ozymandias" edition

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>>24763491
Thanks. Here's the newest passage I wrote - 9 years from the one I just posted, and was looking to post on Docs when I found that ancient excerpt.
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>>24763494
The syndeton is an interesting stylistic choice.
The last paragraph is definitely the tightest. I suggest you go through and try to take out any verbiage that isn't doing work. You can write very effectively but sometimes you get a bit too formulaic or cluttered when you're trying to work out what's going on.
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It cost me somewhat, and I delivered it a couple of hours later, but it's done.
I finished and sent my internship report.
fuck I'm weary...
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How do I write something with a meaning while not getting stuck being a perfectionist?
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>>24762984
bros?

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So, what happened to talented authors?
We all agree that contemporary literature sucks but it isn't as bad in other media. Talented composers are making soundtracks for film and television. Talented painters and cartoonists are either making furry porn or art for video games. Talented sculptors work at video games or movies.
But authors? Movies, tv shows and comics have terrible writing, so do most video games. So, where are the great writers of today if they aren't part of the publishing industry nor anywhere else?
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What's the Silent Hill of literature and don't say The Mist
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>>24761118
I've read some pretty good fanfics over the last decade, maybe the great authors are all on AO3.
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>>24761127
The Shadow Over Innsmouth
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91gT68xeDMM
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>>24761118
The talent pipeline was taken over by angry women who now only promote other angry women, non-binaries and effeminate men.

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are there any books/essays/blogs on the decline of psychology? its a field that once might have had potential but is now rampant with extreme incompetence, harm, scams, and political ideology. especially as CBT has been taking over which appears to be almost a pyramid scheme to quickly train as many incompetent losers as possible to do the bare minimum while sending patients to a pilldispenser once in a while, all getting rich doing nothing.
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>>24762539
George froyd
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>>24762576
>rapid advances in pharmaceuticals
the psychological equivalent of duct tape
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>>24762661
???
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>>24762539
Imagine paying for a friend simulator that shills you pharmaceuticals
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>>24762539
it's just the decline of the academy in general the 19th century it was already dying it died in the 20th
In the 1800s people complained about way higher admissions and declining standards, and continued to complain about it as it only got worse and worse.
If you admit an avg of 110 iq people instead of 130 iq people you just can't have the same subjects and depth.
(Also culturally, we have way higher admission of indians and chinese people who basically aren't capable of profound thought, the indians in particular sot hey need to adjust the subjects to cater to them for money)

Also the research/pharmaceutical scam system

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Everybody always says that newer writers shouldn't aim to get published in The New Yorker or The Paris Review, since those are the two highest-level literary magazines and they tend not to take slush pile submissions.

What are some magazines that are a tier or two below both of those magazines, that might actually accept a story from a newer writer?
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>>24762780
Your high school newspaper, your local clubhouse newspaper, and of course your blog or diary will gladly take submissions.
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&amp
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>>24763062
This, and if you really want to scrape the bottom of the barrel >>24763088 just watch out cause they dox you and extort you afterwards

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In general, has reading helped you with depression or has it made it worse? I usually feel pretty good after a long session but only for like twenty minutes and then the horror comes back. Dostoevsky probably isn't helping but I can't stop reading him... I feel he vindicates my depression and it makes me strangely happy
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Reading made me depressed until it helped me find purpose, which cured my depression.

Hopefully that makes any sense at all.
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>>24760768
Reading Nietzsche was a horrible mistake, but Schopenhauer calmed me down.
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>>24762168
it makes perfect sense since there is much more to learn from books than retards online or in the real life
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>>24760768
Its a nice distraction from depression but depression can also cause me to just zone out and watch TV. Exercise is about the only thing that has actually helped it. But it never goes away and never will, have to learn to live with it.
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OP how old are you? Outside of actual, clinical depression, getting out your early to mid twenties helps with mild depression.

Is this good
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I've heard him described as a good Hegel scholar, so…

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>Everywhere it is obvious that if beauty makes a display of beauty, it is sheer ugliness. It is obvious that if goodness makes a display of goodness, it is sheer badness.
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>>24762990
If you actually knew anything about Daoism you'd know that the book of the way and it's virtue wasn't even considered a foundational or even considered an important text by daoists themselves for a very long time.
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>>24763009
If you knew how to read, this thread is about that book and that fictional author, not your thirdie philosophy as a whole
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>>24763020
Here's your (You), dipshit. Enjoy.
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>>24763024
Im a dipshit now for teaching you about your own religious history and scholarship? Behold: sinoid philosophy in practice ladies and gentlemen.
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>>24763031
>UMMMM... You're Chinese!
That's the best you got, eh mongoloid?

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Are there any Books on men going there own way?
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>>24761625
yes faggotry is rampant in "literature"
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Hunter S. Thompson's body of work
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>>24762596
Your mom is a dirty slag
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>>24761625
Onta Badge of Pride
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>>24761625

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>the #1 most read book in American schools
>it's about the trial of a white girl accusing a black man of rape and the town wants to lynch him
>turns out it was actually the white girl who was making sexual advances towards the black guy and he never hurt or assaulted her, but her white devil father did
>moral of the story is white girls lust for the BBC and blacks dindu nuffin. also whites are the real rapists
These are the kinds of lessons that must be impressed early on every American child's mind.
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>>24759686
>>turns out it was actually the white girl who was making sexual advances towards the black guy and he never hurt or assaulted her
why do they always make this claim
like the type of white girl who would actually do that would then turn around and accuse the nig of rape
they're the crying liberal types who would stand up for him even as he stabs her
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>>24759686
these lessons are better
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>>24759686
>What is the only type of rabbit that hunts prey?
>Answer: A Snowbunny
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>>24759686
They made us read this Jewish propaganda in school.
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>>24759765
>raping a nigger

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these two (and the pre-Socratics in general) aren't given enough credit for shaping the foundations of Western philosophy.
even Protagoras' attempt to prove the theory of non-contradiction through relativism is truly important to everything that's come after, especially to metaphysics all the way to Hegel
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>>24762879
It was easier to just search and copy and paste the similarities rather than write out a whole thing.
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>>24758476
Brooks Haxton for Heraclitus
Raphael for Parmenides (Aurea vidya publishing house)

I also recommend this lovely short film with translations done to French by Moira Tierney.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nhLxgLBji48&pp=ygUXaGVyYWNsaXR1cyBsb2JzY3VyIDE5Njc%3D
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>all these pseuds busting a nut over primitive, fragmentary philosophers
>not a one has read Aristotle's Metaphysics
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>>24762936
Make a thread on Aristotle if you want to talk Aristotle.
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>>24762936
Aristotle himself respected the presocratics.

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Was he really that good? I tried reading his sonnets but they went over my head
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>>24761643
That's fair, but I was aiming for OP, who finds the sonnets quite difficult; I think A&C is probably more challenging in terms of its actual content than Coriolanus, but I don't think that would inhibit a new Shakespeare reader's enjoyment the same way (people do, after all, instinctively love A&C). We don't need to get all of Shakes' infinite nuance to love a play, but we do need to muddle our way through the occasional tough passage; and I recall much more of that with one than the other. What would you recommend OP as some approachable Shakespeares? Do you think Love's Labour's Lost is among the easier plays, perhaps?
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>>24762425
>Do you think Love's Labour's Lost is among the easier plays
NTA. Do you really think that a play with the monstrosity of a line that is "light, seeking light, doth light of light beguile" is one of the easier ones? I love the play, it's the one with the densest wordplay I encountered in Shakespeare so far, but I wouldn't call it easy. Pretty sure scholarship agrees with me, but I can't be arsed to look through my Arden rn.
I'd probably point to Richard III or Comedy of Errors, maybe Macbeth (it has some dense passages, but they're rather spread apart).
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shakespeare is just the collective racial trauma of the anglo man towards their norman masters. when you realize this, there is no more mystery to the man.
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>>24762737
meant for >>24761191
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>>24760624
Anon, your style is nauseating and pretentious and you don’t know what the word coeval means.

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None of you are seriously like this, right??
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>>24761560
>pushed
He came from 4chan's /lit/. We're just showing support for a fellow /lit/izen.
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I first have to read Let Me Try Again before I consider reading this one (after the disappointment w/ the first) at all.
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It's good so I'm going to say its bad to seem cool to all my anonymous best friends on 4chan
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>>24761884
there is no proof of this.
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>>24761884
How'd he get published? I guess from the last name he's Hispanic?

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Gentlemen, I present to you: THE GREAT AMERICAN NOVEL.
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>>24760220
I got memed into reading this piece of shit by this board a few years ago, the cover is nothing like the book, there's no muscle cars or even kino rainy setting, the MC goes prison gay with a nigger then is IRL gay when he gets out and there's other cuck shit and nigger worship, awful book
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>>24760748
The prologue is so good though. It's worth reading for that alone.
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>>24760220
Started out strong but then sucked. I dropped it after the prison scene in which some kid dies from stomach aliment.

>>24760748
>the cover is nothing like the book, there's no muscle cars or even kino rainy setting
Also this

I really like the title doe

"HARD RAIN FALLING"

Fucking kino
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>>24760220
>THE GREAT AMERICAN NOVEL
actually
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>>24762112
i felt so sorry for that kid

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In the San Francisco Public Library crazed librarians have replaced all of the scroll wheels of the mice (because it's like MICE from the CIA), with wheels that wind a radioactive dial in the mouse. People who have been infected with rampant zombie hand disease will have the left side of their head hurt but the neutralizing affects of the radiation will cure their right side of the brain. The doctors and cops are in on the scam. Flywheel coffee roasters gives away free coffee when someone figures out how they've been "burned" (all of the coffee companies have ways to kill people - sightglass coffee company works with chinese optometrists to give irradiated glasses to poor people that cause their head to cave in). The coffee places specialize in killing people via radiation while the beer places use "germs" and the pot stores specialize in "chemical" warfare. All of this is a peacenik cover up to murder people that are considered too violent to fit into the futuristic society that is planning on being built by the coming technocracy. Once all the poor people are killed the ones that are left will do their best to forget it happened so that they don't spend their lives paranoid that they'll be murdered.

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