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> be Joyce
> write Finnegan's Wake
> create famous word: "bababadalgharaghtakamminarronnkonnbronntonnerronntuonnthunntrovarrhounawnskawntoohoohoordenenthurnuk"
> word represents sound of thunderclap
> bababada: repetition, mimics distant rolling thunder
> algharagh: resembles Gaelic for "lightning"
> tak: suggests sharp sound, like a lightning strike
> amminarr: "am" (sound) + "minarr" (menace in Italian)
> onnkonn: repetition, evokes echo of thunder
> bronntonn: suggests heavy, brontide-like sound
> erronntuonn: rumbling, echoing sounds
> thunn: similar to "thunder"
> trovarrhounawn: "trouvaille" (French for find) + "hoon" (loud noise)
> skawntoo: playful twist on "scant" + "too," sudden cessation
> hoohoorden: "who-ho-ho" (exclamation) + "orden" (order in Dutch/German)

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you know What else souns like thunder? Farting. Clapping of bbig cheeks brudda
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>>23558568
I prefer Wagner's linguistic invention:

Weia! Waga! Woge, du Welle, // Weia! Waga! Welter, you wave,
walle zur Wiege! Wagalaweia! // swirl around the cradle! Wagalaweia!
Wallala weiala weia! // Wallala weiala weia!

>In his open letter to Friedrich Nietzsche of 12 June 1872 Wagner explained that Woglinde’s opening gambit is based on OHG heilawâc ( = water drawn from a river or well at some divinely appointed hour), recast by analogy with the eia popeia ( = hushabye) of children’s nursery rhymes.
>In conversation with Cosima, Wagner described this passage as ‘the world’s lullaby’ (CT, 17 July 1869), a reading already suggested by Opera and Drama, where the composer imputes the birth of language to a melodic vocalization.
>Two features of the Eddic line now mentioned — the variations in the length of the line and its free rhythm — undoubtedly served to recommend the Eddic metres to Wagner as a musician. In A Communication to my Friends he praises this method of versification “which, in keeping with true speech inflections, can be adapted to suit the most natural and lively rhythms; which is at all times readily capable of the most infinitely varied expression …” This is obviously a musician speaking.
>As Wagner argued at length in Oper und Drama, the virtue of Stabreim is its ability to establish through phonology associations or antitheses between particular words and concepts. (Stabreim entails a use of language akin to music in so far as it allows the word to derive meaning from its place in a phonetic pattern rather as the musical note derives meaning from its place in a tonic pattern.) It is a verse form which, in Wagner's hands, demands that particular attention be paid not only to each word but also to each root-syllable.
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>>23558568
'ive, laugh, love,' is a Joyce quote from both Portrait and Finnegan's Wake.
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>>23558685
Actually it's a quote from Wagner's Ring Cycle, which Joyce had an in depth knowledge of.

>Die in linder Lüfte
>Weh'n da oben ihr lebt, lacht und liebt:

>Lapped in gently wafting
>breezes ye who now live, laugh and love:

This isn't a joke. Wagner invented the phrase.
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>>23558690
holy shit.... lol

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is there any books or subjects on Apollonianism? I watched spencer back in 2016 and just searched him up now and found out its some pseudo religion or cult? wtf is this and where did it come from, I see some guys on twitter too worship him...also they like nato
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>>23556978
Are zoomerfaggots unirocally worshiping Jay Dyer?
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>>23555618
>Mark Brahmin
This is probably the biggest pseud I have ever come across in my entire life. Dude is insanely high off his own farts and schizophrenically links everything to everything.
> "Art and Religion are one. Both are mating call."
What the fuck does this even mean? Art and religion aren't "one", and neither of them are a "mating call", this is the most asinine shit. Anything can be anything in these kinds of schizo tarot readings: "Hot Dogs and Caterpillars are one, both are of light", "Clouds and rivers are one, both are from love", "curtains and puppy dogs are one, both are ascended" Dude is the biggest fart sniffer windbag I have ever come across online.
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>>23555547
All nazis are. The soviets were right when they said destroy homosexuality and you destroy fascism
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>All nazis are. The soviets were right when they said destroy homosexuality and you destroy fascism
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>>23558638
Commies are just as big as sodomites too

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What the fuck I just read
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Promethus Bound. An ancient play, one of the oldest we have. About a simple man who was horrifically punished by the powers that be for the terrible crime of trying to bring light to the common people. In the words of Ascyllius, "No good deed goes unpunished." I cannot tell you how much consolation I find in these slim pages.
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>>23556122
/lit/ has also been a bastion of ancient literature. Why invade the mythology threads, when no one really believes with faith in mythology?
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This race, in every branch, in every unit, was rich in individuality, restless in its energy, in the goal of one undertaking seeing but the starting−point of a fresh one; in constant mutual intercourse, in daily−changing alliances, in daily−varying strifes; to−day in luck, to−morrow in mischance; to−day in peril of the utmost danger, to−morrow absolutely exterminating its foes; in all its relations, both internal and external, breathing the life of the freest and most unceasing development. This people, streaming in its thousands from the State−assembly, from the Agora, from land, from sea, from camps, from distant parts, filled with its thirty thousand heads the amphitheatre. To see the most pregnant of all tragedies, the "Prometheus," came they; in this Titanic masterpiece to see the image of themselves, to read the riddle of their own actions, to fuse their own being and their own communion with that of their god; and thus in noblest, stillest peace to live again the life which a brief space of time before, they had lived in restless activity and accentuated individuality.
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>>23556807
I know what you mean by consolation. It's a deeply reassuring thing to see the human condition "laid bare" in all its sorryness; it's confirmation that your sufferings and sadnesses are not figments, but part of the grand and tragic sweep of time and fate.

I get the same feeling from Flannery O'Connor, from Dost. It's indulgent in a sense, but an indulgence you partake in alongside the many many others who have known and felt the wretched world as you do. And it's holy in that way.
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>>23556092
fpbp and based

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I've been reading this as my introduction to Jung and realized that it seems a lot of his ideas I was already familiar with.
I didn't realize just how influential he was on the pop-cultural understanding of psychology and therapy.
Is there anywhere deeper I can go with him or will the rest of his works be the same?
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>>23551193
Aion. Probably needs Jung and the Alchemical Imagination as context tho
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>>23551193
This book was incredibly underwhelming and felt like it was just something Jung's understudies/students were creating and Jung himself shrugged and passively signed off on.

>>23551212
RSV is the most legit in terms of prose, RSVCE ideally because it includes the seven extra books of the Bible that were censored during the reformation and aren't in the KJV despite being essential to understanding the later parts of the Bible.
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>>23557004
The time of day and place of birth does also impact the chart, so two minutes of difference does have an impact albeit small. I'm learning astrology but there really is too much more to learn, partly because modern astrology is absolute garbage but that is the easiest to find. I've learned my lesson though, the hard way.
>>23557002
Yeah i know Alan Leo and the Theosophists are responsible for modern astrology but I wondered about Jung's part in it.
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>>23556971
projecting your wiggerishness onto me when you're a fucking mutt who worships a Jew is comedy

>>23556992
Jew worshipping amerimutt
>The book that has driven the best civilization in the world, European civilization. The best music, art, architecture, literature, philosophy, poetry.
all of those were invented by pagan Europeans before a group of subhuman Jews wrote the Bible little buddy. I suggest you gain some historical context and knowledge instead of a twitter education from spic fuentes, mutt

>>23557174
it's over.
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>>23556992
>Christfag shit is the reason why European culture is amazing.
Are you a latrinx?

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I'm liking this so far. What exactly did Sarkozy have against this that he basically wanted it banned in France? I can understand why the Nabokov's and other European writers hold it in such high regard.
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Why is this board so culturally bankrupt? I don't get it. No one has heard of or read La Princesse des Clèves? Good Lord.
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>>23556671
He wanted it banned?

Why are the Stoics so misunderstood? It seems like everyone, from serious philosophers like Nietzsche to Russel, and online "redpill" type bros, all have a caricature of the stoics.
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>>23557446
>Say you were slave in roman times, what would "progressing through life" look like?
Read up on Horace's father
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>>23553567
Hey look a butthurt stoic getting angry over an internet comment
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>>23553801
The stoics don't have a metaphysics. They think that God is quite literally a fiery inferno that pervades the universe and that nothing exists that can't be seen or touched.
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I'm reading Tom Wolfe's "A Man in Full" atm. It's about a redneck real estate developer who falls on hard times and embraces Stoicism. Hijinks ensue, check it out it is pretty funny, not great literature or anything tho.
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>>23553520
I recommend reading Stockdale on Stoicism if you want to hear about a man practically applying the philosophy to help him through truly terrible circumstances.

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People say that you have to write notes in the margins and use a colored highlighter on the text to enhance the important parts...
Maybe I am some kind of purist but I would hate to do that in the book.
So, do you just read the book and take no notes? Do you think it really adds to take notes or just reading it with your bare eyes to be sufficient ?
Or do you take notes on a different paper/notebook and make small summarizes and notes of each chapters of the book?
What are you reading habits, help me please.
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>>23558261
>People say that you have to write notes in the margins and use a colored highlighter on the text to enhance the important parts...
no, you don't.
>So, do you just read the book and take no notes? Do you think it really adds to take notes or just reading it with your bare eyes to be sufficient ?
I don't take notes from what I read, but if you're reading books with complicated things (for example, a book that jumps around it's own timeline) it could be helpful. Also, if a book is really long, it might be worth it to make note of characters and ideas that were introduced at the beginning, as they might show up at the end and you may not remember them otherwise.
Only take notes if you feel like you need to. Too many people were taught that you have to take notes no matter what, and all of those people are just wasting their time and, ironically, becoming less engaged with the task of reading and more engaged with the note taking.
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>>23558261
If the book has a lot of hidden subtext, I read the cliff notes online or something to help catch that stuff. I just finished Catcher in the Rye, and while I did not discover plot points organically within the narrative as is traditional, I am able to engage with much more of the meaning and thought behind certain words or events.

When I read the Illidan and the Odyssey, I used the Cliff notes to help me understand a lot of the references to things like the gods and goddesses, or the meaning behind certain cultural expressions. It absolutely enhanced the story for me to be aware of those things before hand.

But sometimes that is not always possible. I read a book on trash one time. I had to rely on the author having enough writing skill to talk about trash without losing me, and he did, and it was very enjoyable. I felt lonely and scared, like a German peasant walking through Black Forest Ham kind of forest.

I have a special Bible with thick pages that I highlight and write on. I also have wire bound notebooks that I use to take notes as time goes on.

Really it all depends on the book and what you intend to extract from it. The ancient literature books and the Bible, I want to expand my thoughts and capacity for thought, so I gather secondary sources and I enjoy the different translations. But sometimes, reading a book is just reading a book.
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>>23558298
>if a plot is not clear, you weren't paying attention. Remove distractions and try again.

I could not disagree more. Good writing is not a prerequisite to being published.
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>>23558261
If you're reading a "normal" book, just read it and you'll be fine even if you don't understand 100% of the references and subtext.

If you're reading something like Finnegans Wake you definitely need some sort of companion reader.
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>>23558261
Ernest Dimnet in "The Art of Thinking" devoted big portion of the book to reading. You should look into it. The tldr:
> The way you read out of pure necessity, is the way you should read in general. Skiping lines/pages/chapters, approaching text with non-uniform focus is proper and natural way to read. Reading a map by scanning it all left to right going downwards, would be ineficient and boring. You'd rather focus on a small portion of it, and place less care in the rest. Above all, the way you read out of a need, not caring for the act of reading itself, is ideal.
> Of course you should only read what gives you great pleasure. Which will take care of the previous problem. You shouldn't give in to the inferiority complexes, and try reading "important works" if or while they don't give you great pleasure.

Discuss
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>>23557518
When I read it I could tell Camus was an atheist based on the dialogues between priest and doctor. I loved the book, but I think Camus was too overt in trying to force his thoughts by making the priest spiritually fickle and the voice-of-reason doctor the narrator (which was obvious from the beginning)
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>>23557518
goated with the sauce
his best, read it in high school as the curriculum demands it and still loved it
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>>23557518
Pretty good. I liked his unfinished work more though.

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Has anyone read this?
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Any book that focuses on sexual contact with aliens? Not the slop with hippies and slutty women. As I remember there were several cases, especially in Brazil and Europe in the 60s where men claimed they were forced to breed with aliens who were far from beautiful and attractive, including saying that they stank.
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has anyone read the odom manifesto?
>odom manifesto
https://www.docdroid.net/Nu3OkY2/odom-manifesto-pdf
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You have 30 seconds to proof that aliens are real to me, OP. Go crazy.
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>>23557700
there are pictures
see
>>23545916
there are ufos everywhere
and ufo physics allow hyperspace travel, so they can get here
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Do EFL people know etymology?
does learning etymology helps me build stronger vocabulary while reading?
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>>23558147
That's how the human brain works
People are going to have a feeling about how a certain prefix is going to affect the meaning of a word but they aren't going to necessarily be able to give you a comprehensive list of its effects
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>>23557316
yes and yes. haven't you found this to be the case in your native language?
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>>23558147
>each prefixes, suffixes, and roots mean
ESL mistake spotted. And yes, most of us know what commonly recurring parts of words mean. However, most people wouldn't know that, for instance, the word alcohol derives from arabic.
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>>23558147
dumb EFL's probably dont think twice about etymologies but I'm sure smart ones take an interest in it
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>>23558168
the system of my native language is far different than English that learning etymology almost mean nothing

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Looking for works on complete and total epistemological pessimism. The bigger the fuck you it is to the basic assumptions that support sanity, the better. Thanks.
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>>23557233
Ugh, Pyrrhonism, I guess?
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>>23557233
kek i hate my bitch wife too
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>>23557233
Thomas Ligotti

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Are there any interesting books that look at genetics from a thoroughly well argumented ''alternative'' angle? The massive implications of the role of Genes that are widely accepted in biology have never really sat right with me, and I'm curious about the outlier and fringe theories regarding the subject. Works on Genetic manipulation/engineeeing are also welcome.
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>>23556258
>it's like a bunch of leftist nonsense
goddamn it i was excited as fuck to read it after I was done with 20thC phil. Is the whole book nonsense?
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>>23556302
idk man its just way more leftist then I ever would have thought. I'm reading the introduction and it really put me off the book. it's doing that thing that all shitty philosophy does where it says the same thing over and over in various erudite ways, constantly referencing other authors and terms from within her highly specific academic circles so it further detaches itself from any universal meaning. and it's just like really really leftist, she says it's humanist
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>>23556391
So you haven't read the book itself
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>>23557918
I've read the first chapter which is introductory and outlines in great detail across its 25 pages what to expect from the rest of the book
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>>23555764
Biocivilisations by Predrag B. Slijepčević.
It kind of comes close to panpsychism also.

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What are the most radical, rage-filled deep ecology books out there?
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>>23557460
White people are... evil?
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>>23558394
They actually are, without the Light of God the europeans would still be living in the grown like animals, fucking like animals and killing like animals.

> To regard Christ as God, and to pray to him, are to my mind the greatest possible sacrilege
So he’s a disgusting heretic and a non-Christian. Don’t recommend him to me ever again I would rather read intelligent atheists like Cormac Mccarthy over Tolstoy any day.
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>>23556131
I don’t have to convince you that democratic fascism is better than whatever you believe in. I was just making a point that you don’t have to be a secular liberal to agree with Tolstoys views on religion
>>23556205
Fascist violence was a response to communist violence
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>>23557194
>le curmudgeonly russian man
sick of this fucking queef
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>>23548111
nta
Christ manifested and is the realization or eternal fact within God of the unity between the divine and the human. He came to the lowest cells in hell, to the depthest of estrangement fom God. God's love manifested is Christ, and is a real performative reality. God's love is union with everyon spiritualy.
explained a bit very shortly. Not all theology make sense, there are christian heretics. But the idea is that God is not only transcendant (the Father).
Maybe actually look into orthodox theological books if you want to studydeep spiritual matters
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>>23545936
>To read Tolstoy, and to agree with him, are to my mind the greatest possible sacrilege.
- Anonymous, 2024.
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Jesus is a dead kike, accept it, his mom cucked his father, simple as.

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