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>doesn't even have an article on Freud in your path
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>>24118397
Yeah I noticed that too, curious. Probably because of his connection to linguistics/structuralism (post-) etc...
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The SEP is weird as shit. It will straight up ignore huge chunks of a philosophers work and not even mention it, so it comes across as a complete overview even when it isn’t. The overall lack of articles would make you think they require more depth or something but they don’t.
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>>24118505
At some point they're too big to be ignored. It's still an overwhelmingly analytic project/site
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>>24118985
I'm just surprised that Freud wouldn't be considered "too big to ignore" as well, then. Especially since he's upstream of a lot of other guys there (indeed Foucault and Derrida obviously, and D&G, etc..)
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>>24117698
Who needs Freud when there's recent article on TRANS PHILOSOPHY?
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/trans/

>write a bunch of unintelligible gibberish about some degenerate family in the south
>"OMG he's le heckin genius!!!"
What the fuck is this bullshit
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>>24115189
it takes like 3 pages max to understand what's happening, just try not being not retarded
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>>24118422
>yeah bro I totally understood the entire timeline, that there are two caddies and that one of them left, that Quentin commited suicide, the extremely vague insinuations about family dynamics all on first try just from reading the first chapter written from benjys retard perspective
Sure bro
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>>24118491
>two caddies
Mixed it up, meant two Quentins and that caddie left
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>>24110247
>Her pants got muddy
>Get it? Her butt had mud on it
>She was a dirty girl!
>UNCLEAN, GET IT GET IT???
/lit/ thinks this is profound. A damning testimony to the level of taste /lit/ has.
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>>24118513
kek

I judge books by their cover, and it has literally never failed me.

Cool cover = good book
Lame cover = bad book
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>>24117972
you possess zero taste
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>>24117571
Moorcock's Blood used the same painting
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>>24114748
I do the same and it never failed me too. Sometimes the cover may not be the best but there is some element that says "you should give it a try". Titles and author's name also helps, a good author doesn't use a dumb name or chose a lousy title.
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>>24117980
I sighed uncontrollably as my tired digits dribbled against the pantone keys. Another day, another synechdoche of stupidity tarnishes my keen-eyed orbs. Won't someone rid me of this turbulent anon?
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>>24117672
Abominable/10

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Is he autistic? What's wrong with him?
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Total sperg but I find his goal of improving modern lit by encouraging people to read and write commendable
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>>24118889
I don't know what he has but he stresses me out and I don't like his teeth.
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>>24119196
I was not surprised when he mentioned once that he had had a concussion. Dude’s literally brain-damaged.
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Dude talks about himself more than the subject of the videos. What a piece of shit.
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>>24118942
Special, as in 'special needs'.

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I have challenged myself to read all of Melville's major works this year, and I just finished his first novel, Typee. At the time I read this, I had only ever read Bartleby, Benito Cereno, and part of the Confidence Man, which filtered me. The prose in Typee is very pleasant, and I think that's what kept me reading, because as a novel, it kinda sucks. The story just straight up drops off after the first fifteen or so chapters and the book turns into a memoir/travelogue. Of course novels aren't just stories, but still, a good story is required for a good novel. However, Typee does deliver on the promise of its subtitle. This isn't just a peep, it's a complete look. Melville's description of Typee culture is thorough, and his musings on colonial relationships are radical. Anyone else here read it before?

This is my schedule in case you'd like to join me:
Typee: A Peep at Polynesian Life (1846). 368 pages. Will read between Jan 1st and Jan 19th.
Omoo: A Narrative of Adventures in the South Seas (1847). 374 pages. Will read between Jan 20th and Feb 19th.
Mardi: and a Voyage Thither (1849). 729 pages. Will read between Feb 20th and Apr 5th.
Redburn: His First Voyage (1849). 443 pages. Will read between Apr 6th and May 6th.
White-Jacket; or, the World in a Man-of-War (1850). 336 pages. Will read between May 7th and May 29th.
Moby-Dick; or, the Whale (1851). 710 pages. Will read between May 30th and July 17th.
Pierre; or, the Ambiguities (1852). 495 pages. Will read between July 18th and Aug 19th.
"Bartleby, the Scrivener" (1853). 48 pages. Will read between Aug 20th and Aug 22nd.
I and My Chimney (1856). 28 pages. Will read between Aug 23rd and Aug 24th..
The Confidence-Man: His Masquerade (1857). 335 pages. Will read between Aug 25th and Sep 14th.
Battle-Pieces and Aspects of the War (1866). 356 pages. Will read between Sep 15th and Oct 9th.
Clarel: A Poem and Pilgrimage in the Holy Land (1876). 500 pages. Will read between Oct 10th and Nov 30th.

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>>24118385
I'd probably say go through Typee and Omoo next of what I've read, they're some of his easiest to read and they're more widely available than a lot of others. I say Typee AND Omoo because the latter is a sequel to the former, apart from that really any order works, but I'd say leave Clarel pretty late because it's excellent but long and such a product of his later life, it's also, unsurprisingly, his most overtly christian book. after T and O I'd just say go through in whatever order you can find, Redburn is also a novel that is basically an embelished travelogue, and Israel Potter is like an embelished travelogue about somebody else. Pierre is very good and makes a lot of sense when you know how poorly received MD was.
I've not read Conman or Whitejacket, I'm reading Mardi at the moment, which is also very good, I'd say Mardi is kind of like a proto-Moby-Dick as well
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Keep in mind that Typee was sold as nonfiction back when it was released. A guy even came forward claiming to be Toby and supporting the factual accuracy of the book. And even though these days it's pretty easy to tell where he embellishes for the sake of narrative, there's a lot of frankly anthropological recordings in there that impressed me. He had a fascinatingly modern approach to the study of other cultures.
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>>24118574
Yeah it reminds me a lot more of something like Wallace's The Malay Archipelago than it does Melvilles later more famous work
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>>24116872
I have never taken any notes. Not that I think you shouldn't, just that taking too many can easily break the flow of your reading. Let the book reveal itself to you. The Confidence-Man in particular is supposed to be puzzling, it's about a conman after all.

>>24118492
I've been hearing so much about Pierre recently I'm about to take it as a sign and read it next.
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>>24115711
Typee reminded me of a Joseph Conrad novel. Anyone else get that feeling?

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Just finished pic-rel. Great book. Any other fiction authors as good as Marías is at synthesizing layers upon layers of tangents and digressions and forming a cohesive idea? It's like you're watching him slowly paint a portrait when you read him, and here he paints a nose, there an eye, you get the idea, until finally you get the whole picture, only you couldn't even tell it was supposed to be a portrait until it was completely finished.
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>>24119488
I picked this up at a bookstore a few months ago and read the opening pages where the girl commits suicide in the bathroom and the father runs in and covers her exposed breast as if the gaping wound in her chest weren't the bigger concern. Powerful image, it had me hooked from the beginning, but I had to leave it because I already had my next 4 months of reading planned out. tell me it gets better or stays as good.
Also, you read it in English? My native languages are Spanish and French so I am bound, by pride and ability, to read these works in their original languages. Since I went to an American university, I often found myself at odds with the other kids at their having read some classic translation where the language is an approximation to the spirit of the work in accordance with the contemporaneity of the translator.
I'd be talking about Chaucer in the original Middle English, and then I'd be talking about Rabelais and Cervantes with people who had only ever read it in the Putnam/Rutherford/Urquhart/Le Motteux translations. Jarring, but I'm always curious about how readers of translations approach the works of an author who is so much prided for their linguistical innovation in their original language. I tried reading the Manheim translation of Celine and found it dull and dry by comparison, but that might be a natural bias.
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>>24119523
>tell me it... stays as good
I'd say it does. It's probably the best book I've read since I finished Marianela, which was sometime early last year.
>Also, you read it in English?
Yeah, but I'll read it in Spanish eventually. I'm currently learning Spanish, and hoping to be able to read Sarmiento's Facundo comfortably by midyear, or perhaps El doctor Centeno. I have a feeling the latter will be a bit tougher, though.
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>>24119488
>here he paints a nose, there an eye, you get the idea, until finally you get the whole picture
did he relaly do this? post screenshot porfa
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>>24119488
give me an example of one of those digressions and the significance of it
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>>24119488
Was his final novel decent? What are his 3 best?

>>24119523
>the Manheim translation of Celine and found it dull and dry by comparison, but that might be a natural bias.

He's definitely dry.

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has anyone read this

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Should this be read before 2666? Also, how would you describe it?
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bunch of fuckwits fuck around in south america not doing anything much
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>>24118925
Comfy and great escapsim for the modern day. To be able to travel the world in the 70s, to write poetry freely. Maybe a 100 pages too long, and some of the narrators towards the end of part 2 are insufferable. But overall a good read.
I've yet to read 2666 but it seems like it's meant to be a kind of continuation of some of the themes brought up in The Savage Detectives, so yeah, but not necessary.
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>>24118952
Thanks

What are some books that involve a lot of smoking or are centered around the act? Specifically cigarettes. (Hard mode: no noir)

Also post what you smoke. I just got a pack of some Chinese cigarettes and they were good. Tasted like plums.
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>>24119340
You would know
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>>24119691
Interesting how your mind went there. How is your relationship with your father?
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>>24119705
I'm a Montego guy. Started out with Kools though.
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>>24119727
We're cool and all but why are you asking? Are you stalking me?
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>>24119710
But have you tried the southern cut? Those are god-tier.

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What would Tolkien think of Hawk Tuah and Skibidi Toilet if he were alive today?
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>>24117260
I was surprised to learn Tolkien had a telephone in his home considering how anti-technology and old fashioned he was
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>>24117317
so tolkien was a pretentious faggot who gets angry when people say the wrong words around him?
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>>24117254
Hawk Tuah girl would be giving him that hawk tuah in this very moment and he would write an elf into the Book of Lost Tales who had a mouth of otherworldly beauty.

Skibidi Toilet would baffle him.
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>>24119366
It's terminal.
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He'd roll his head back and coo as she spat on that thang.

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Can ChatGPT write good prose?
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>>24119637
ChatGPT cannot write good prose yet. A year or two ago it wrote something "in the style of Edgar Allen Poe" and it didnt sound like him at all.

I once gave ChatGPT something by Hemingway and asked to improve the prose. ChatGPT just added bigger, fancier words.
>>24119642
This isnt bad. But I'm curious to see how similar it is to de Sade's writing.
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>>24119660
>how similar it is to de Sade's writing.
it aint even close
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>>24119663
That's not surprising.
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>>24119637
ChatGPT on it's own can only work within the context of the prompt. That's why tools like Novelcrafter, Sudowrite, etc exist that can interact with multiple LLMs
In Sudowrite if you fill out the "story bible", customize the genre, style etc, then use the "chapter generator" it will literally write your book for you.
Claude 3.5 is much better at this usually than ChatGPT
The problem is, if you are any sort of literate person it will be obvious the work needs more editing than it is worth, but nothing is stopping you from just releasing it and profiting off the slop.
These tools can be useful for legitimate authors experiencing writer's block by having the AI continue your story. It will tell you the laziest way forward and your pride will demand you write something better. If you can't, there was probably something wrong with your writing to begin with.
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>>24119657
>Clarity: Ideas are conveyed clearly and without unnecessary complexity or ambiguity.
Wrong. This works for non-fiction, but in fiction you want to create ambiguities.

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remember to visit your local library!

put those tax dollars to use and check something out!

attend an event or listen to a presentation!

ask your local librarian to do an interlibrary loan if they do not have the book you want!

t. your local library worker

p.s. - ignore the homeless addicts, please
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>>24119382
wtf are you talking about. i need to go online to find books the library system doesn't have, not the other way around.

google books have more than any library in the world, since they scanned most of them including collections the libraries discarded subsequently.

this isn't 1990.
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>go to library
>empty dime bags crinkle under my feet in the parking lot
>vagrant muttering to himself stinks up the doorway
>lobby has large imposing theft detectors
>computers everywhere
>man playing online slots
>man watching football
>man sleeping with browser on softcore porn webpage
>stacks are half empty
> new arrivals packed with Things that Whatever Everywhere
>feral black stares and follows me around the library
>another sits at a table and stares into space, grunting occasionally
>black kids running and chasing each other
>signs everywhere extolling diversity and various strands of faggotry
>no books of interest

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>>24119623
have u tried moving out of baltimore?
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>>24119015
I'm not poor and I like annotating. So I'd rather just buy a book.
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>>24119627
This is happening everywhere, anon.

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Alice Edition

>Recommended reading charts. (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb
>Archive
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg
>Goodreads
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
Previous >>24091152
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>>24120477
okay pal, now go back
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>>24121385
Sanderson's humor (or at least, the screenshots posted here) is the embodiment of my greatest fear of what will happen if I ever try to publish something.
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>>24121407
Don't write like a marvel movie and you'll be fine.
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>>24121407
Don't let your dreams be memes, anon. Sanderson's wiping away his tears with dollar bills right now. I'd take being bullied online for fat stacks.
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>>24119871
>>24120036
>>24120260
I feel the same enjoyment reading Dying Earth literature as I imagine people who read Agatha Christie novels feel.

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What book is this?
It has 200 pages or more and the chapter on pic related seems to be called "religion of ancient egypt".

If anyone could tell me, that would be great.
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>>24117920
'The Coiled Serpent: A Philosophy Of Conservation And Transmutation Of Reproductive Energy' by C. J. Van Vliet — I think
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>>24117969
I believe you are correct
https://ia902800.us.archive.org/19/items/TheCoiledSerpent/The_Coiled_Serpent.pdf
^^ link to pdf on archive
very impressive

>fantasy novel comes with a world map


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