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Is this Pynchon's worst novel?
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>>23306806
>you live long enough to become a pastiche of yourself

Grim.
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>>23306991
what don't you understand? they don't feel real at all, pynchon is an ideas guy, his characters all read like goofy cartoon cutouts
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>>23307029
Characters can be allegorical too you know.
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>>23307029
Archetypal characters can still be very compelling.
I feel like the people who make these claims fall into the comic book reddit trap of every character needing to "develop," as if the only point of a character is to use a narrative to learn some kind of Mother Goose lesson. At some point internet debate faggots decided "developing" a character is synonymous with them being "good."
Look at Seaman Bodine. He doesn't change, he's very goofy, but he's incredibly interesting to see move through Pynchon's world, he's memorable and enjoyable. I'd say he feels like a cartoon in a good way, in the sense that you see him in every sentence starkly outlined in your head like Bluto or Patrick Star, it makes his actions and dialogue viscerally come to life.
>Seaman Bodine looks up suddenly, canny, unshaven face stung by all the smoke and unawareness in the room. He's looking straight at Slothrop (being one of the few who can still see Slothrop as any sort of integral creature any more. Most of the others gave up long ago trying to hold him together, even as a concept-"It's just got too remote" 's what they usually say). Does Bodine now feel his own strength may someday soon not be enough either: that soon, like all the others, he'll have to let go? But somebody's got to hold on, it can't happen to all of us-no, that'd be too much...
>Rocketman, Rocketman. You poor fucker.
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>>23304029
You're right, Vineland is even worse.

Moby Dick is to whaling what … is to architecture.

Please fill in.
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>>23307383
The Cathedral by Huysmans
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Maybe the Hunchback of Notre Dame?
Hugo was one of the first ones to see gothic architecture as beautiful after it fell out of style in the renaissance.
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>>23307394
The Fountainhead excoriates modern architecture and lazy creators of all stripes and it was made back when modern art was far less offensively dogshit and pervasive. The story is how Howard Roark would sooner have his soul beaten out of him than give up on building even one masterpiece of his own visions and how the rest of the architecture world is the exact opposite of this which is why we have shitty modern architecture.
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>>23307383
Pillars of the Earth
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>>23307815
>Maybe the Hunchback of Notre Dame?
This is the only correct answer.

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Opinion on audiobooks? You all consider it cheating?
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>>23305871
Damn, Homer btfo.
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>>23306052
If you aren't already hosting them with Audiobookshelf, you should check it out. One of the best developed open source programs I've used.
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I've never tried audiobooks but it seems like it would be a pain to go back and relisten to a previous section, and pretty much impossible to look up something specific quickly. I'm too used to the ease of navigation afforded by my e-reader. Plus, you apparently have to pay for listening time? What kind of kikery is that?
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>>23305864
>Opinion on audiobooks?
They're awesome. Currently listening to picrel.
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try listening to a dialogue by plato and youll be able to follow.

try listening to the iliad and youll be struggling to understand whats going on.

pros and cons of just trying to understand and get through a book. as far as experience goes though, reading is far superior.

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Finally…
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>>23307019
I don't know how that Pius quote indicates what you're saying at all. Tbf you might know something I don't know because I've never delved into the minutia that online trad caths have. I grew up Catholic, went to Catholic school, and participated in my archdioceses and I've only ever gotten the opposite impression from priests and bishops that I've talked to or heard lecture.
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>>23303411
Two down. Hopefully Harris is next.
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Why are Christians so mean?
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>>23308956
>Why is 4chan ______ ?
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reminder that an atheist dying is meaningless

>Ask what the most faithful retelling of the Legend of King Arthur is
>Get recommended The Once and Future King
Don't get me wrong, I think this is a pretty decent book, but Monty Python and the Holy Grail is unironically a more faithful retelling of Arthurian legend than this novel.

Are there any books out there that are basically Le Morte D'Arthur for a modern audience?
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>>23308099
I do. When do the police show up and arrest him? Is that in the directors cut?
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>>23308104
They never do that specifically, but if you'll remember they veer wildly away from Arthurian legend multiple times. If anything, Disney wound up downplaying just how wildly the book deviates.
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Thoughts on this?
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>>23308245
graphic design was her passion
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>>23307502
The Howard Pyle books on King Arthur as well as the great book of King Arthur by John Matthews.

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In your fear of creating something normal and unimpressive you stare at the blank canvas of life long enough and you wait until all the paint dries up, and your heart stops loving life, the fire in your soul turns into ash, your flesh turns into bones and your dreams and thoughts fade into oblivion.
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Maybe you don't want to write fiction, maybe you should be doing essays instead.

I got into programming because I thought I wanted to do videogames, never did that, but got a lucrative and interesting career instead.
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hey, that's good. just how i feel.
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>>23308243
This is the fruit of the novel as a medium. Storytelling is always repetitive and part of a tradition. Even Virgil or Homer didn’t create any of their stories. Don’t be discourage by seeking “originality,” find beauty in things others have made and use that. “Theft” doesn’t apply to ideas or stories, they’re meant to be shared and given life by (You)
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>>23308243
everything is soo niche
everyone writes on their feed for everyone to see.
why bother chasing fame and recognition in trying to fool yourself your words are your own
they are authentic
and they mean something
id rather feel the guineuine feeling of a private thought only at most shared between friends, then lost to all the other ephemeral psychic energies that keaves only an echo of a feeling that only i get to expierence, no matter how existenially dreadful and depressing that is.
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offtopic. take your depressive blathering to /adv/

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Is this romance novel any good?
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>>23307615
Actually it's a Sturm und drang which is a precursor to the romantic movement.
It's pretty good if you're in the headspace and maturity level to enjoy it but it's not a book for everyone at all times.
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>>23307684
I've read it twice.
The first time I read it, it was the best book I've ever encountered.
The second time I read it, I hated it with a deep passion.
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>>23307701
It's really for 16-24 year old men who are suicidal and still able to feel infatuation. Anyone outside of that demographic will probably be put off by it.
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>>23307615
Yes

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>Loose-leaf aperture are more popular than reticent technicity

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Which of these did "group crossing country in a nihilistic pursuit" better?
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>>23308899
Voss, it was also the first by a few decades.
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>>23308915
They are as alike as they are different. The major diversion from one another is probably the goal for the characters in each: Although Voss aspires to become some Nietzschean superman, there remains the two undercurrents of discovering the supposed paradise across the Great Dividing Range, and to build a proper relationship with Trevelyan.
Blood Meridian, on the other hand, quickly collapses into a sludge fest of death and murder.
Voss & co willingly pull themselves into the blackhole of the Australian outback, and just like in a black hole they are slowly disintegrated and pulled apart from the nothingness. in BM, on the other hand, the Glanton Gang is pulled into the eternal whirlpool of war that has plagued that part of North America since time immemorial.

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Seems like a pretty straightforward story but I'm interested if anyone had any specific analyses on it

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Anyone on /lit/ written someone a poem or a personal letter before? If so, how was it recieved? Do you think the art of letter sending and poetry writing should come back or do you think it's gay?
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>>23308072
I can only speak to exchanging letters and emails. I think there's a risk in them being overly contrived, considering the people writing them aren't likely to be used to long-form personal exchanges. And, speaking from anecdote, I think in the context of being sort of a side channel to instant communication means they can be used specifically to avoid saying risky or vulnerable things in a setting where there might be immediate consequences; that can be for better or worse, but probably worse when the prior issue of contrivance comes in. From that I'll say the context and correspondents matter a lot. Doing it with someone you know well is important.

That said, I've had some very good experiences with steamy emails. (Helps that being horny lowers inhibition and raises tolerance to kitsch.) I think what matters in the context of intimate things is reciprocity and desire. For poetry you'd probably have a better idea of whether or not to send a personal poem to someone by sharing a non-specific poem with them first; if they like it then you know your style at least won't turn them off.

Anyway, gay but good with the right person. I prefer it over text when it's good, though I imagine it'd take practice for most people.
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>>23308072
Somebody in a poetry critique thread a couple years ago made a very astute case for why you should never, under any circumstances, write a poem for a woman and give it to her unless you've been married to her for years already.
I can't find it, but I agreed strongly.

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What's up with this nigga's titles?
>He Knew He Was Right
>Is He Popenjoy?
>Can You Forgive Her?
>How Many Men She Had Before You?
>The Kellys and the O'Kellys
>An Unprotected Female At the Pyramids

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>Dominate trinity fusion literaréture
>Insufferable caveating
Retinue Kappa.
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What is some essential reading to understand Deng Xiaoping Theory and its consequences as well as its relevance in modern China?
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>>23307969

When he was in the doghouse and some party member was verbally abusing him (apart from murder, a communist's second favorite activity is verbal abuse), he simply turned his hearing aid off so he didn't have to listen to it, kek
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>>23305780
Imagine being in charge of a billion chinks
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4r8yw
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>>23305780
https://www.cato.org/policy-report/september/october-2017/little-known-story-milton-friedman-china
interesting piece of the puzzle
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what a total chad

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Treaded faculty cannot intimate the fallacy of relativity. How does fealty corroborate inherent tendency to fluctuate matriarchal tendency(*)?
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Askew willing.


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