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pic related
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>XVIII.
> O hour of all hours, the most bless'd upon earth,
> Blessed hour of our dinners!
> The land of his birth;
> The face of his first love; the bills that he owes;
> The twaddle of friends and the venom of foes;
> The sermon he heard when to church he last went;
> The money he borrow'd, the money he spent;—
> All of these things, a man, I believe, may forget,
> And not be the worse for forgetting; but yet
> Never, never, oh never! earth's luckiest sinner
> Hath unpunish'd forgotten the hour of his dinner!
> Indigestion, that conscience of every bad stomach,
> Shall relentlessly gnaw and pursue him with some ache
> Or some pain; and trouble, remorseless, his best ease,

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>>24923801
very true

So like why stories outside of the medium of books always shit? even the worst book is better written than the best film/game
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>>24901338
Games that were better than the books they were based on:
>Witcher 3
>Metro exodus
>uhhh... picrel
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>>24922757
Video games are handed everything on a platter in comparison to literature, post-1970s humans have way more leeway to fuck around with media than those who had to contend with daily survival in the era of ancient city-states. Compare games to film, instead, a medium that took even less time to establish and propagate a unique form of storytelling after directors realized that simply copying theater was too limiting. Meanwhile, you still have plenty of devs and publishers out there who believe making a story "cinematic" is the only way video game writing can thrive.
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>>24922757
We have been using speech and mind to think up stories and tell them for thousands of years
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>>24922902
>picrel
Hell fucking no. The game was even cringier than the self-insert fic it was based on.
Movie was pretty good though.
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>>24901338
I liked Fear and Hunger

I felt like it's a pretty good example of story through gameplay with how bullshit punishing it is and resource management.

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>we are condemned to be free
I'm thinking this frog looking motherfucker was on to something
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>>24923086
Fucking women (and kids) and winning Jew prizes for poisoning society makes you a good person?
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>>24923086
He refused the nobel prize and then asked for the money later kek
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>>24922337
Phenotypes are the only things you need to learn about someone.
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>le ugly people...unheppi
>they be...going...extreme
>le ugly peopl...also can be evil ???
>le evil people...CAN BE PARTIALLY RIGHT ???!!!??!!
>LE CHRISTIANITY...NO HEV TO BE PASTA SON OF PRICHA ????
>no...no
>kant be
>le....raystowrant =/= macdown(jonesindustrial)aldz
>le me become...postmodern

Analyža
America educational system very implessive.

The 21st century shall belong to you, son of Chattanuga.
Your astute observations shall sink the red dragon in the yellow sea - yours is the century of the tortoise.

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What are some essential French novels that aren't your Hugo, Dumas, Flaubert, etc. Something about the early 19th century French setting seems so comfy to me and I want to read more, but I've read a lot of the big names.
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>>24922717
Read all of Balzac's La Comédie humaine and Zola's Les Rougon-Macquart. That should keep you busy.
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>>24923022
>hon hon hon read the ballsack
Grow up.
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Rousseau, Chateaubriand, Senancour, Lamartine Stendhal and Balzac are all their biggest inspirations. Germaine de Stael too apparently but I haven't read anything from her.
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>>24923029
>writes 'ballsack' in place of 'Balzac'>
>tells me to 'grow up'>
Read Balzac's Droll Stories and learn how not to be a cuck and an absolute joke.
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>>24923740
He's joking trouduc

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Is Ulysses a bad guy?
Do people underrate Menelaus' qualities as a warrior due to the movie?

Also, Diomedes is the best Greek
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>>24921955
>gave satisfying reasons.
"You should listen to ugly people when they tell you to wuss out."
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>>24921955
>have good taste
>hates the Iliad
I've got news for you buddy
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>>24921568
It's anachronistic to call him Ulysses when talking about the original Homeric works. That is the latinisation of his name. Which did not appear for centuries after the composition of the Illiad and Odyssey.
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>Two men get in a pissing match about their war brides
>Achilleus cries like a little baby when he gets his taken away from him
>"B-b-but I have big muscles, I deserve a slave to rape WAAAAAH"
kwab
agamemnon gang represent
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AJAX DID NOT KILL HIMSELF

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Is there a single Warhammer novel worth reading?
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>>24923482
>I guess they really wanted to reset the setting
The old setting was very much a classic fantasy trope world meaning that in theory any company could make models for knights, elves, orcs, zombies, etc... that could be used in the game. That was an issue because GW loves money too much to lose a few customers to proxy models that were much cheaper. not only that but names like "high elves" and "orcs" were unable to be locked down under copyright. This coupled with the fact that the human factions were very euro centric and lacking that sweet diversity led gw to start over with a new IP sequel setting as a fresh start to make new models, lore, and factions (the first thing they added was a fantasy version of space marines). The old setting was much more grounded compared to the whacky shit they have in age of sigmar. As you can guess the fanbase outright rejected the change and were promptly replaced with 40k players
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>>24923558
>As you can guess the fanbase outright rejected the change and were promptly replaced with 40k players
>all 100 of them
So nothing of value was lost for GW then?
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>>24923565
is believe you if old world wasn't one of the most played miniatures games currently
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>>24923572
Not even top 10 last time i checked
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>>24915163
I liked the Traitor books, and the Night Lords trilogy are fun.

Ciaphas Cain is also fun, and most ork/necron ones are good too.

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>most quoted individual after Shakespeare, in the Oxford Dictionary of Quotations
How? His poems suck.
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>>24921337
kek'd and based
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>>24921191
Idylls of the King is very good.
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>>24921394
nah, it sucks
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>>24921191
I wouldn't know, I've never read him. Have encountered no shilling of him to entice me to.
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>>24921191
it should be Wordsworth

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>true human history is just Genesis verbatim

wow OP, not only are you a faggot, but also completely unoriginal. that's awesome!!
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>>24923501
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Double faggot.
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>>24923528
triple faggot

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>skips introduction
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>>24921813
I almost always do because those faggots spoil the book
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>>24921813
I always do this if it's not by the author. Do not care to read a 30 page introduction by some random American literature professor before reading my cozy Balzac novel
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>skip editors notes
>they're actually apart of the story
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>>24921813
Ive had the ending of a book spoiled by reading an introduction on a couple of occasions and I havent read one since
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TS Eliot's introduction of Nightwood is the only introduction so kino it mogs the actual book

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"the french" lmao. it was Germans influence the Romantics. typically normie ignorance of the glory of the Deutschen.
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>>24922598
Are you okay?
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>>24921833
It began with Goethe actually-
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>>24923507
It began with Schlegel. Athenaeum. 1798.
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>>24923392
No, German Writers literally saw English writers collecting their country's ballads and poems and then decided to do it themselves.
Ergo they copied
>>24923507
Wrong as seen by the above posts.
Goethe basically just copied Anglos
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>>24922598
ok this but unironically

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What do you think /lit/, is /ourgirl/ right? The sci-fi movement really seemed to have some weird characters back in the day, and I don't think they got much better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQJ51iPs9C4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8J9K8njT0o
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>>24922490
Anon, wat the FUCK are you talking about?
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>>24922492
I'm basically saying that sci-fi authors were always pederasts and that's great. But they also used to be nutjob pederasts and that allowed them to write some good stuff, while now days they are boring conformist pederasts which reflects negatively on their works.
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>>24921702
And DROPPED.
Imagine listening to a woman, on the subject of literature, no less.
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>>24922675
She's got hot forearm hair and armpit hair thoguh.
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woman is talking.gif

Is there still a market for comfy adventure stories? Pic related is so good and one of my favorites. I've had an adventure story brewing for a while and I've had good feedback on my stories from beta readers. Any other good examples of books like The Hobbit?
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>>24917480
Retard, Tolkien books get the best editions because they're the top sellers.
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>>24920661
>A lot of it is literally gay
Did you read Lord of the rings, buddy?
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>>24922138
Yes I did, pal. Is your gotcha that Sam held Frodo as he was dying?
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>>24917471
You need more wymyn of color and homosexuals sorry chud but best I can do is this authoress from pakistan writing about sexual genies and a gay prince
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>>24917471
I tought Smoags death was anti-clamactic but other then that it was great

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>Y-YOU CAN'T JUST START A STORY WITH THE PROTAGONIST WAKING UP!!!
>THAT'S SHODDY AND AMATEURISH WRITING!!!!
>THIS YOUTUBE VIDEO ESSAY TOLD ME IT'S BAD!!!!!!!!!
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>short story ends with protagonist dying
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>>24922815
Needs more adverbs and adjectives (those are the key to good writing):

>Chapter One
>John, the remarkably ordinary and somewhat disheveled young man, lazily and quite sluggishly stirred from his profoundly deep and utterly restful slumber as the brilliantly radiant and softly glowing morning light gently and ever so delicately filtered through his surprisingly spacious and impeccably curtained bedroom windows.
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>>24923090
Giga based. I'd actually read this
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>>24923090
>Well, time to go about my day, thought John. John liked thinking, or so he thought. As he pondered that presumption, he wondered, in fact it would be fair to say he went so far as to consider, that though that thought that he hadn't that morning contemplated that he now realised was by now by gradual coalescence becoming a certain notion, convinced albeit he was nonetheless that which he believed that moment with utter conviction to conclude with one final reckoning. Or so he surmised.
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>>24923090
Kek

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Was he the most evil man to ever live?
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>>24918152
he's a nice/soft/sentimental guy who feels really bad about stuff why does anyone think he's evil
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>>24918152
No, that would be Marx.
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>>24919241
>doesn't read the guy who defeated the blind assumptions of rationalism that had been plaguing European thought since Plato because he isn't rational
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>>24918569
It's crazy how fucking dorky that whole era was, from Nietzsche to the Nazis, and they didn't even have videogames, yet they were the cringiest dorks you will ever find
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>>24918152
Hell no.
Paul was!

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I am an Anglo-Canadian who took French in school from grade 1 to 11 and was always mediocre at it. Nevertheless, I learnt enough to be barely passable and want to finish my learning of the language to be completely fluent? How do I go about that?
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take online lessons from a leacher
you can find them as cheap as $15/hr on numerous sites and depending on the teacher will have learning plans/recommended reading.
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Sentence mining
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>>24922884
I went there recently for the first time and was prepared to get horrible Paris syndrome but the White people there were so beautiful and kind (and kept to their own) that even the city being 40% brown couldn‘t dim the radiance. I struggle to piece together then how these perceptions come about and have to conclude it‘s American tourists being treated with the respect they deserve after making no attempts to learn the language or integrate earnestly with the local culture.
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French for Reading is great but it has a huge weakness of not having any audio recordings and since it relies on you verifying your understanding of each passage through an English translation, it's very easy to get stuck into the habit of translating in your head
That's fine if you just need to verify information for academia but for enjoying literature you really need to get into a habit of reading aloud and absorb the sound of French
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>>24923427
Historically, the French have been among the kindest people in Western Europe (and the least racist unfortunately). However, because France dominated Western culture for centuries, and its people are generally more reserved, effeminate and prideful of their country compared to their Mediterranean neighbors who may appear more "friendly" due to their outgoing nature, people perceive the French as arrogant. There’s probably some sort of jealousy at play too, given that France’s history is stuff of legends. Constantly hearing about how "great" French art or history is may lead people to think it's nothing but snob circlejerking.
Also because of this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-French_sentiment_in_the_United_States
I also imagine that the CIA’s efforts to move the cultural capital of the arts from Paris to New York might have involved shaping the perception of the French and their refined arts, to allow more trashy expressions to take their place.


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