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Is it a hoax? Is all of it made up or is there bits of truth in it? I'm looking for non-biased sources that did research into it's origins. I recently read it and it's pretty entertaining and inciting for sure.
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>>25258232
Exactly. Jews are so shrewd that you wonder if some Zionist didn’t write the protocols to poison reasonable discourse about Jewish influence.
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>>25258232
They’re goys.
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>>25258913
Taking the Protocols seriously is reasonable. It's the Jews that are ridiculous along with anyone trying to minimize their insanity.
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>>25256543
Tsarist hoax but it says a lot of things chuds want to believe, and the will to believe is more important than facts
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>>25258967
>All copies that were known to exist in Russia were destroyed in the Kerensky regime, and under his successors the possession of a copy by anyone in Soviet land was a crime sufficient to ensure the owner's of being shot on sight.
They were just covering for the overthrown Tsarist regime. Makes perfect sense.

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What are some books about colonialism that aren't just the author ranting about how it's evil and Europeans bad? Pic related is solid and fairly unbiased.
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>>25251997
>>25251981
Mesoamerican history anon here.

While I obviously would suggest reading Cortes's letters, Bernal Diaz's account, and any other primary sources about encounters with Mesoamericann civilizations, you need to keep in mind that they were very much writing to glorify and justify their own actions and a lot of the information they provide is contradicted by other accounts. Diaz was also writing many decades after the fact where memory is an issue and he (intentionally or not) incorporated many myths and misconceptions into his telling that had become popularized in the time since the events of the expedition

The books I recommend as companions to any such primary sources are "7 Myths of the Spanish Conquest" and "When Montezuma Met Cortes" by Matthew Restall. I talk more about the latter here: >>25237421

In relation to what OP is asking for, there's absolutely some moments in both books where Restall is going hard with moralizing stuff and stressing the plight of say Indigenous women in particular, but both books, especially the latter, are excellent overall for the reasons I state in the linked post and I'd recommend them.
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This is a good book on the changes that colonialism brought in the people that it interacted with
To my suprise it dosn't really take a stance on things besides narrating the events of the story
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>>25251981
Can also recommend this. Very good and fair overall from a man who loves the continent.
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>>25251981

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I heard Don Quixote was relatively good with female representation for its time. I prefer classics written before the 20th century.

Of course, this greatly depends on what you consider "good female representation," because it seems like people complain about anything that isn't Ghibli or whatever else is their favorite having "bad" female representation.
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>>25257480
just started reading it
i read the signet proverb by robin morgan, and it complains that it has bad female representation
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>>25257473
Balzac has a very diverse cast of female characters that represent countless different types of woman from beautiful to outright vile
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>>25257473
Anna Karenina
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>>25257571
>ballsack

Korean radical feminists are complaining about this genius author being overlooked and are saying that men always get attention for their writing skills instead. Personally, I really liked the book.
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>>25258415
what does christianity have to do with feminism, if anything, they would be more traditional if they were christian, that's just retarded reasoning
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>>25257483
No, like all gender war shit it begins and ends with women violating the social contract by abstaining from their sole role of sustaining the domestic and reproductive spheres and attempting to encroach into male spaces.

Men in South Korea are required by law to perform two years of military service when they turn 18, which they do for minimum wage (until 2025 it used to be below minimum wage). This puts them two years, educationally, experientially, and monetarily behind women, who use time to forego the only role society has ever required of them: domesticity and reproduction.

The gender war shit won't end until women once again have some sort of obligation to society, as men do, and have since the beginning of civilization.
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>>25258865
shalom.
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>>25258865
Man you are not gonna believe who a large part of the first christians were, drawn to the fact that separation of the soul distanced themselves from their social obligations.
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>>25258865
Dānava alert.

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>in the entire main work of The Lord of the Rings, including The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, and The Return of the King, there is no place whose name ends exactly in 'renan'
I don't believe it. I'm almost sure there is a name (maybe of a place) that ends with 'renan' in the LoTR saga. Well, maybe it is not a place. It bet it is some Sindarin or Quenya word.
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>>25258811
>Laurelindórenan is a poetic, older name for Lothlórien, a forest realm in The Lord of the Rings by J. R. R. Tolkien.
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>>25258887
>evil dictator is named hitler
>evil henchman named himler
What a hack
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>>25258909
>himler
Himmler
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>>25258978
Lol i never seen that one

>And do you not know that you are (each) an Eve? The sentence of God on this sex of yours lives in this age: the guilt must of necessity live too. You are the devil's gateway: you are the unsealer of that (forbidden) tree: you are the first deserter of the divine law: you are she who persuaded him whom the devil was not valiant enough to attack. You destroyed so easily God's image, man. On account of your desert — that is, death — even the Son of God had to die.

>On the Apparel of Women, Book 1 Chapter 1
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>>25258801
to wit you are retarded
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>>25258384
everyone in this thread is gay. op posted win
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>>25258393
tertullian was the first person to write the word trinitas in latin and basically you guys should go back to /b/
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>>25258712
>>25258756
>>>/gif/
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>>25258384
im tryna find that monk walking past a slut meme to copy that text onto
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>>25258801
>>25258844
>Latins cribbed the trinity from goat-fucking Greek pedo cultists
We know. That’s the whole problem.
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>>25258849
the trinity is implicitly in the Bible. it is a mystery, but the three Persons are all there and distinct at the baptism of the Lord and elsewhere

Incest roleplay is the logical conclusion of Christian theology.
Premises:
Mary is the new Eve
Jesus is the New Adam
Mary is the new Ark of the New Covenant
Mary is the Church, the church is the Bride of Christ...
Mary is the Mother of Christ
Church is the Mother of the New Creation
Jesus is the Father of the New Creation...

God did all this because he too loves gooning to mommy roleplay porn and wanted to make his dreams reality by creating his own mommy to bang.
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soon as you figure out how Marx fits in, you got a thread boy oh boy yes you do
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It’s pretty crazy that even Tillich is on the verge of admitting the trinity is a pagan mythologeme
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>>25258774
You don't need this convoluted derivation, Adam and Eve were either siblings or father/daughter depending on how you spin the creation from Adam's rib
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>>25258856
“you spin” being the key phrase there, idolatrous pig dog.

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how good is he at relaying platonic thought?
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>>25254417
Worse enough to draw the attention of plato’s patterns from across the informational graph of the void
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>>25257158
Apologia is a legal defense against his in laws who accused him of using dark magic to entice their daughter. It's basically all stuff like "I own a mirror but I don't use it to perform black magic with. I just look at myself in it." It's extremely boring.
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>>25257583
if that was put into a true crime slop vid, you'd be eating it up
neck
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>>25257588
The entire thing is available to read for yourself here.

https://faculty.georgetown.edu/jod/apuleius/transold.html

At best, it is interesting as a historical curio from when black magic and witchcraft was suspected of anyone who bought a mirror or certain fish. It is not the most exhilarating read.
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>>25257583
Think OP means the other text on Plato

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I really need a job. You see I quit my job a little over half a year ago in the hope that I would find a way to sustain my existence while having to do the bare minimum of labor. For months I messed around, wrote short stories and now I find myself low on funds. I refuse to get a regular job however. I've spent years and years working and I can not take it anymore. I would rather be homeless than go back to a regular job.

I'm hoping that people who might have been in a similar position to me can give some advice on what I can do here? Are there any jobs that allow me to focus on my art and that don't grind my spirit into nothingness? Seasonal work? I'd appreciate any kind off advice. I don't need a lot of money and I would be fine living on the bare minimum as long as I get to do what I love.

I live in Europe, specifically the Balkans, so if any posters from the region have any ideas I would love to hear them. The thought of going back to work a normal job makes me seriously consider suicide.
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>>25251287
>Are there any jobs that allow me to focus on my art and that don't grind my spirit into nothingness? Seasonal work? I'd appreciate any kind off advice. I don't need a lot of money and I would be fine living on the bare minimum as long as I get to do what I love.
EMT firefighter. You basically make $40-80K and then you also get a pension and you only work two 24 hour shifts straight in a row (sleep at fire station) and the rest of the week off. It's high risk for your body but overall it is definitively the most condensed work schedule that maximizes your overall free time.
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>>25251287
well, remember, with work comes stuff like money and healthcare and girls
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>>25255588
Even when I worked I had no money or girls. Healthcare is universal here. You always have it.
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>>25256290
>Healthcare is universal here. You always have it.
god i fucking hate being american
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>>25251287
Firefighter/Paramedic. In the US, at least, it's pretty common for your shift to be 24 hours on, 48 hours off. Depending on where you work, sometimes those 24 hours are completely dead with no calls and nothing to do after training, cleaning, checking equipment, etc. so you could bring a laptop to write on during down time. The work itself when you do get calls is far from soul-sucking too. The problem is finding a paid position because so many people are willing to volunteer to do it.

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Noone refuted Helen Joyce in the last thread so lets see if anyone has anything for Kathleen Stock. I thought this book was better structured, more philosophical and less journalistic, take on the subject.
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>>25258219
Mine, that was my first post in the thread. I skimmed and had a tard moment and thought you were op (hence the mean comment). I'm not going to read whatever dogshit summary of mumsnet posts is being shilled by her.

>why would it be gay men specifically?
They don't worship women the way straight men do.

I genuinely don't like women, the way they talk often makes me nauseous, but I'm straight and the urge to devote myself to one is still there. We ruined civilization because they cried and stamped their feet.

Homosexuals are free of that urge so will be, if not the only, certainly the first to totally break free of natural reproduction and make women irrelevant.

I don't think it's a good thing, it horrifies me, but it seems the inevitable consequence of artificial wombs. The unbounded, pathological empathy and gentleness that feminists brag about is suicide in a darwinian universe. The fact that individual species and in group instincts exist at all shows that cooperation is bad strategy on average.
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>>25258233
i don't think spamming clones of themselves is actually something more than a very tiny number of humans want to do. i do think you are correct about one that if reproduction is unlimited by any constraint, it doesn't matter how small that group is, they'll soon outnumber everyone. i don't think gay men are more likely than any other group to be in that small minority. as i said, the most famous example is musk who is definitely not a gay man.
i think there are lots of ways to address this and prevent that tiny minority from taking over the lightcone. one is that you try to satisfy their values in a different way. musk believes in a bunch of deathist cope bullshit right now. if he didn't actually have to die, and knew he didn't have to die, would he be so hell-bent on producing as many copies of himself as possible? maybe not. that said there are probably some very tiny number of people out there who really do want to tile the universe with themselves and you have to be able to say no to them. i don't actually think "you're not allowed to have 100,000 children, and you're not allowed to make the children you do have identical to you" will turn out to be that onerous a restriction.
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>>25257064
Otto Weininger BTFO gender over a century ago and managed to do it while dabbing on women
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>>25257403
Are you genuinely retarded?
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>>25257403
>would rather have trannies over women
ayo this nigga is gay

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Am I genuinely too stupid for this book? I don't understand WTF is going on
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"Stranger ..." is Heinlein's riff on the Mormon Church -- Michael instead of Joseph, the sacrosanct temple, and "Thou art God." Of course, plebs like Elon Musk think "Grok" is what it's all about.
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>>25255306
It's his competition with LRH to build a religion. Scientology is somehow less retarded than the religion Heinlein came up with.
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>>25253451
>I've never read a more obvious author self-insert and lecture before
You haven't read Time Enough For Love?
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>>25255743
As I understand how the story goes, Campbell asked his stable of writers to come up with religion-based stories. Heinlein had his theocracy thing in his alternate future timeline but LRH decided that his story was just too juicy to simply publish as science fiction and instead started Scientology. Heinlein then decided to see what he could come up with and simply did the Mormon thing.
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>>25257373
>[USER WAS GROK'D FOR THIS POST]

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A picture is worth a thousand words
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>>25257379
it really isn't, movies are all pictures and they're not capable of saying 1/10th of what a good book can
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carrots peak downward, what's your point?
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>>25257379
And yet you had to add words to your post to explain its purpose, as the image alone was insufficient. Curious.
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>>25257379
So about the same as a ~3 page short story? Sounds about right.
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3 fiddy

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What's the literary equivalent?
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>>25250647
Gen X is uninvolved by choice. That's undoubtedly a good thing given how fucked up everyone else is.
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The best hip-hop MC was a mixed white kid from Minnesota.
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>>25250616
Has there been a book that captures that immediate post-recession era angst the way Death Grips did? Plenty of movies and video games did, but I don't know if any books that did.
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>>25250642
W GenZGod
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>>25257909
>Plenty of movies and video games did
Examples?

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earth angel edition
previous >>25250455
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HEAD LIKE A HOLE
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I'm internally grateful for you all.
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>>25258722
Small and flat chests are genuinely better anyway. Even better if the girl in question is tall.
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new thread:>>25259396
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The lion doesn't concern himself with employment.

Are there any science fiction or fantasy books that speak on why women shouldn't be able to vote or hold office? Also: Gender realist literature general thread.
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>foids are le bad
>every single brown country that treats girls poorly remains a third world shithole like Pakistan, Afghanistan, Nicaragua, Nigeria whatever
>every single country that muses over and loves woman on a deep fundamental level has the greatest developments in science, art, literature and achieved greatness in every single level a civilization could hope
This cant just be a coincidence now can it?
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>>25258329
Yes, that's me, pretty much.
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>>25258338
I KNEEL AN0N, abs0lvte perfecti0n! Mwah!
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>>25258356
China treats women like cattle (relatively) and is a rising power. If we fuck up our current gambles they will eclipse the West. Europe is an impoverished backwards (mildly, but soon obviously) shithole, they send their poor to work in the UAE just like Indians do.

Not to mention antifeminism being selected for in reproduction: That's God erasing you from the genepool *in real time*.
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Why is no one posting sci fi or fantasy shit

Women can't fucking read


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