>>25385512Didn't say that
https://archive.org/details/orbispictusofjoh00come
>>25382579I feel like I read this book long ago. Was this written by John Locke or Descartes by any chance?
>>25385565Richard Whatelyhttps://archive.org/details/easylessonsonrea01what
>>25385805Thanks.No wonder it seemed familiar, then. I'm pretty sure I read his "Elements of Rhetoric".
Name a more annoying reader base
People who wear horror movie antagonist branded clothing
>>25385529The bible
>>25385529Most of them, what are you talking about? Horror fans are least annoying in any medium. They're unapologetic in their enjoyment, know it's almost all schlock and stick to themselves.
>>25385529
>>25385529...Monkey./Homer Simpson voice
How can we preserve books for posterity, when institutions fail and society devolves into a simpler form? Or are we going into a 3rd century style crisis where there will be a loss of books?
>>25385589The most effective option in my mind is sending a copy to land on the moon where the future civilization's space program will eventually find it. No barbarians, no bugs, no water and no animals or wind. A slight risk of a meteor strike but negligible. You could also draw a big circle (or some other shape that rarely happens in nature) around it. They'll figure out astronomy sooner or later and the gians circle on the moon will be the first apot they'll want to check out
>>25385598But provided the apocalypse doesn't happen, we will likely have an opposite issue. Too much preservation. Everything written before the printing press had to stand the test of time and be good enough to spend time, paper and ink on it. Now any old piece of slop is guaranteed decades and centuries of shelflife. You can help future generations by teaching them to pick and choose their entertainment.
>>25370910/threadChristian monks had to translate and copy the classics by hand, all while under threat of being murdered by some slobbering illiterate Viking, Arab, or Mongol. We have it easy compared to them.
>>25385598>future civilization's space programThis was the last chance, though. We have used all easily accesible, rich mineral mines, depleted all easily extractable oil wells and coal mines. How is a future post-collapse civilization going to rebuild technology, if the only resources remaining require a very advanced technological civilization to extract them in the first place?Forget it, this was the last train out.
>>25370889The degenerate races consider themselves more educated and more literate than the vitalist, male conqueror races that come to save their decaying civilizations. The ancient Germanics did not care for literature one bit and considered it a waste of time, during the days they had come to save the tottering Roman administration.
is a sub-par but honest style better than trying too hard and being pretentious?
>>25384677>Objectively badPeople have been fat fetishists for over 5000 years. It's one of the oldest fetishes along with feet. If it were really that bad it'd have been bred out of the human race by now, but it hasn't been, so clearly it has God's blessing.
>>25384544>fat women are always placed at the lowest place in hypergamy and hence they don't get any attention from an average male in dating gameYeah, fat women are famously scorned throughout the entirety of human history, kek.>>25384547This. But homosexuals just don't get it.
>>25385686>People have been fat fetishists for over 5000 years.Not only there was no porn, but people couldn't even physically get hamplanet fat 5000 years ago. Stop bringing up the retarded orangutan statuette from the neolithic.
>>25381277Yes. The experienced reader is no longer amused by clever tricks. Content is king.
>>25385686Bloody bitch ate all the rice I curse you
damn son
>>25385684but how did they know how small their penis was? did they not know but spent time pondering their penis and concluded it would be small? sounds kinda gay
>>25385684talking shit is a long-honoured human tradition
Anything camus relatedrecently finished The stranger anyone know where to go from here?
Cumass is a faggot and queer.
>>25382368I really liked The Plague. Give it a try.
>>25382368Second rate author and third rate philosopher. The works I have read from him were all solid, but nothing really special. Its a nice introduction point for a fusion of philosophy with literature, but nothing beyond that. He builds in philosophical elements pretty obvious and there are enough opinions out there to read different views about the works. The main reason he is popular is because he wrote absurd literature after WW2, which resonated with the people from that time. And because of his beauty. He was able to paint the absurd with his looks, which make it appeal to younger woman. If he looked like Sartre, he probably wouldn't be as popular. His philosophy seems unnecessary. It felt like didn't have any real arguments, only pathos. To be fair, he didn't think of himself as a philosopher either. But all his "life is absurd" to "don't be religious" and "we still have to be humanist" is a huge leap in most cases. Most of his existential dread pretty much has been done better by thinkers before him. >recently finished The stranger anyone know where to go from here?IIRC he wanted to publish a trio together, which didn't quite work out: Myth of Sisyphus, The Stranger, Caligula. These three works were meant as an introduction into him by him. They explain his basic thoughts. After that you can read The Plague and The Fall. The Plague was probably my favorite of his. I dropped The Fall somewhere in the middle though, because I become tired of him. Maybe I will actually pick it up again to see if I remember him correctly. All of what I said above can be taken with a grain of salt though. It has been a while since I have read him and there wasn't really anything that I found to be worth remembering. If he hadn't been brought up all the time everywhere, I probably would have forgotten about him completely. He even seems to be the most midwit one on reddit. You can search probably every thinker and after some point you will find a person that appears to have a grounded and good knowledge about a thinker. I haven't found that person that knows much about Camus. He seems to be the actual philosophical suicide trap for all the people there. They read most of him, but seemingly only him. They appear to not even notice all the random leaps he takes. I don't regret reading him, because I was able to move on from him.
>camus is attractive Maybe it’s because I’m a man but I never understood this. He looks like an overworked schoolteacher.
Are we picking our french intellectual bfs now?
Happy 4th, /lit/!
>>25383569BASED. Fear and Loathing is truly THEE Great American novel.
>>25383583Exactly.
>>25383569Fuck USA, nigger loving Israel supporting dick sucking bitch fucking nation of retards
>>25383616You just described HST to a tee.
I don't understand why women hate Infinite Jest. It's a compassionate and genuine book with no hate in its pages despite the male focus.
>>25374298I looked at the catalog too fast and thought I read "Infinite Jeets"
>>25376022>litbrosThose don't exist. 5 man-hating journos made a moral panic about it, that's it.One day it's "men don't read", the next it's "male book red flags" and the following it's "lit-bros".Just ignore them, they hate being ignored and have a big inferiority complex
>>25379767>They are the gender where fun goes to die.Is that true? I thought we agreed they were the frivolous, flighty eternal children.
>>25376848And I suppose you don't partake in chasing silly social signifiers for any reason whatsoever? Everything you do is divorced from culture? Sure. You don't even brush your hair or wear clothes that are socially acceptable.
>>25385383Not at all what I said. I said I don't like men who read to impress other men. That you extrapolated this to include the totality of signaling is why I don't like you guys: because you're fucking stupid. You rack up canon books like a video game score to appear intelligent to one another but in reality, there's nothing there.
Best works on how this is a malicious slave planet ran by nefarious arcane cosmic forces?
>>25373407Kinda Mainlander
>>25379378Most people are retarded NPCs like you.
>>25384183Yet the need to be useful binds us all
>>25375352Youre not a good person though
If you want a safe compass to guide you through life, and to banish all doubt as to the right way of looking at it, you cannot do better than accustom yourself to regard this world as a penitentiary... If you accustom yourself to this view of life you will regulate your expectations accordingly, and cease to look upon all its disagreeable incidents, great and small, its sufferings, its worries, its misery, as anything unusual or irregular; nay, you will find that everything is as it should be, in a world where each of us pays the penalty of existence in his own peculiar way
How do I unfuck my brain if I'm a 23 year old zoomer who only reads manga/comic books on my computer while listening to youtube videos in the background? I haven't finished a book all year. I have no writing talent. My handwriting is atrocious. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
>>25383644>I have no writing talentHow do you know? Do you think they find talented writers at school or what? Just start writing. The worse you start more progress you can see and better it feels. Its like losing weight is so easy when you’re a fat fuck.
>>25383669>consider things you just readRetard alert
>>25383644You could start by reading Watchmen if you’re already a western comic fan Regardless of your opinion of the political/social sensibilities of Alan Moore, the original/complete run of Watchmen is leagues above most comic writing in terms of storytelling and characterization. This could be a good launching point for “”””deeper”””” literature.You could also start with someone like Tolkien, specifically The Hobbit. While it does not venture into the complexities of LotR, The Hobbit has simple characters and great world building that you could use to train your brain into visualizing what’s going on in the text. LotR is the next step in this, further painting Middle Earth and introducing “””morality””” and more complex characters like Boromir
>>25385361Comics were already moving towards more complicated independent stories in the 70s with 2000AD in the UK and First Comics in the US plus everything happening in France. Plus Moore already superseded Watchmen with Miracleman>the complexities of LotR"No!">Writers like Tolkien take you to the edge of the Abyss and point out the excellent tea-garden at the bottom, showing you the steps carved into the cliff and reminding you to be a bit careful because the hand-rails are a trifle shaky as you go down; they haven't got the approval yet to put a new one in.https://worldwithoutmoneyarg.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/moorcock-1978-epic-pooh-in-arena-2-anarchists-in-fiction-2011.pdf
>>25385379Round and round,Stick to the tunePosting on /lit/In the middle of June(But it’s July!)
>le masculine looking writer who was a literal private detective!>turns out to be a dedicated communist>guys gangsters and police are both evil, just two sides of le capitalist coinDetective fiction and "noir" are reddit incarnate
>>25383685>Because a private entity can't develop their own mechanisms of control?>dood what if Walmart had a standing army of mercenaries bro??!!!literally kys. the government is currently $40T in debt ($200+T with unfunded liabilities), they print money out of thin air to fund the greater Israel project, the Epstein class has bought off our politicians with underage sex trafficking and satanic sacrifice blackmail, and you are still concerned about the great capitalist evil of McDonalds.
>>25385470The government serves the ruling class. McDonald's is not the fucking sign, it is all the privatized equity class which owns it and so many other companies. The government prints money which has value because of the petrodollar, and the reason it prints so much is because that is the preferred policy of its masters, the capitalist class
>>25385495you are a totally mindbroken retard. confirmation bias until the very end. >The government prints money which has value because of the petrodollar>capitalist class loves when everything costs more to make and everyone's brokeput down the commie crack pipe buddy. topkek.
>>25383356>>25383248>>25383367ur so clearly redditors lmao. thats how greentext is done you tourists.
>>25385521Quantative easing transfers more wealth to capital, yes. It makes share prices go up and furnishes capitalists with easy loans for expansion
>Man is something that shall be overcome
>>25380868Sounds kinda gay.
The more accurate statement is, humanity is something to be overcome.
overcome a nutsac
>>25380893>>25380982
>>25380868>Man is a bridge to the Mega Man
Is there a book on storytelling as good as the hero of a thousand faces that focuses on specific styles of writing instead of "this story used this element/archetype/trope that this other story used a hundred years ago"? For instance a novel that's 180 pages and a novel that's 500 pages will have a totally different structure and prose even if they have similar plots. I have "The Reader Over Your Shoulder" by Robert Graves but I'm not sure if that's what I'm looking for.
>>25385241You really needed a book to figure out that two different people can make two different works with different styles from the same content? You are gonna be shocked when you find out it happens in other mediums too.
>>25385257No, I already know that it happens. I want to read a book that talks about the writing process in detail. You're being retarded.
>>25385122Frye
>>25385122This post reeks of "I read about this book on wikipedia and now I have to show /lit/ how smart I am by making a thread displaying my superficial understanding of this work".
>>25385376but this thread isn't about that book it's about books similar to it
A magical eggplant....... the climax of this fucking book was a recipe to make your cock giant to fuck Pocahontas....... WEEEEEEEW
>>25382390My favorite book of all time.
>>25384356>>25384570it makes me sad that the word "beshit" fell out of usage >>25384610there's actually a reference to gargantua and the gooseneck asswipe in the chapter where he shits himself
>>25383102Sot-weed is great, one of the funniest books I've ever read. Giles Goat-boy was disappointing. Felt like it dragged on way too long towards the end.
>>25382390That's why postmodernism is boring, none of these authors replaced the disintegration of every sacred institution with anything approaching a consistent metaphysics even on a personal, informal level. They have no interesting opinions about the world or about history, only reductive nonsense half-formed out of the chaos.
american hippie "literature"
Have you ever been in a book/discussion club of some sort? How was the experience?I've been looking for one recently, but it seems like most only read slop like modern pop romances, criminals and sometimes fantasy.
>>25384692I have. One of my friends started a book club and invited all the interesting people he knew to read some particular text of philosophy that he felt would invite good discussion. We met once a week in the park, the leader responsible for a section or chapter would rotate each week, and then we spoke for 2 hours before separating or going for pints, etc. Very comfy.Alternatively, I've gone to MeetUp events in my city and joined various philosophy meetings, which were very uneven. A few smoothbrains could ruin a meeting. On the plus side, I found some good people and hung out with them instead. I've also lead a few sections for that MeetUp group. I just needed to do some preparing, but it brought out the people interested in the text. My advice: find whatever sort of sloppy group, join for a book or two, find out how they organize themselves, find a few people who seem the least dull, and then suggest leading your own book to those people. Don't feel like you have to start from scratch.
>>25384692>hello, can you tell me about the library bookclub?>yes, they read a lot of new releases>ok, thanks anyway, byedon't know what I was expecting, the library barely has a classics section
No. I like books because they can be enjoyed fully while alone. Why would I want to ruin something I like by adding in other people?Other people suck.
>>25385056That sounds fun. And exactly like what I'd be interested in. I've started reading some Plato recently and I really wish I had someone to discuss it with, and then to move onto other philosophy books with. >philosophy meetingsWere those also in the format of: everone reads a certain book and discusses it afterwards? Because I've seen some info about a philosophy meet on the internet, but the format was closer to an open lecture on a topic, rather than a book.>>25385085Huh? No, I mean a discussion club. I've seen a strange notion of a "silent book club", where people meet up literally just to read their own stuff in silence, and yeah, I don't get that either, but that's not what I'm talking about.
>>25385127Send me an email, and I'll give you my Discord. I'd be more than happy to discuss Plato.(link expires in 24 hrs: https://pad.riseup.net/p/SS4-XATai13XqR5dS-88-tmp)
