>reading won't get me laidWhat the fuck is the point then?
>>25341506>tfw you can't plow her fields because you were taught how to read
>>25342829Most humanities students. Don’t get me wrong they don’t read them but they larp so that’s a way into a convo
Getting laid is for animals
>>25341464Actively talking about literature works against getting you laid. When you talk about books with a woman you are meant to pretend listening as she tells you about the shitty characters in the latest fantasy chicklit she's collecting. You are supposed to smile and go "m-hm" and "whoa cool" at the right moment. It's the first test of patience to prep you for the talk about shit like her ex, her slut phase, that time with a dog/nigger and so on. You get pussy in between so you know when to quit
>>25341464Coombrained nigger
Why did this cause so much seething at the time?
>>25341596For much the same reason that Tom Wolfe’s "The Painted Word" caused seething — it pointed out (correctly) that the output of many highly-praised contemporary "artists" was at best a waste of time and very often actively pernicious.
Because the sacred rule of the literary side of academy has been and is that you can write about anything and it is all literature. To go against this rule is to go not only against all the writers in academy but all of the people who spent thousands of hours analyzing the post modern writers
Did you rike it?
>>25340522https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWxGt-bK0Ec&list=OLAK5uy_nR0dfm9zfRxVDVfc9hpuK3Fr1qIaeE-TE&index=4Shame he sounds like a you-know-what
>>25340279actually good fantasy unlike the Tolkien garbage and its followers
I despise the contingent of 4channers who pedantically pretend to savor these Anglo authors for political performative and esoteric rationale. So many threads since 2016 on this nonsense. People pretending king Arthur isn't the most boring shit in the world. Just read Joyce, Conrad, hemmingway, dostoevsky,etc like a normal human
>>25340279Never heard of it
>>25343916the Anglo canon is boring as hell, I don't want to read shit like Jane Austen and Dickens. time to get into old fantasy and horror and weird fiction
>get to learn the two most /lit/erary languages free of chargeis Quebec the most /lit/ location on earth? If you were born here you'd be able to read atleast 3/4 of the greatest books ever written without any need for translation
>>25341602Learning French for that one word in a sea of German prose, smart.
>>25341602Ah, the famous deutscher Witz
>>25341778>>25341791>dodges the question
>>25338473This is what vintage soibois think they look like with a mustache, isn't it
>>25343355often, yeah
Was his childhood story of abuse true or fabricated?
>>25341690>she was actively abusing me.how?
>>25339542It's not exactly unreasonable, plenty of people get off on the idea of torturing people and do it if they are able to find weak people that no one cares about, foster children with behavioral problems fit that mold exactly. Is it Satanic in nature? Probably for at least some of them, but it's not like most of them are actually communing with the son of perdition, they are just torturing people and inventing some faux-ritualistic reason for doing it after the fact.
>>25342307> it Satanic in nature? Probably for at least some of them, but it's not like most of them are actually communingThen you have dismantled what this was at the time. It’s hard if you’re not 40+ to understand that the Satanic Panic shit was a christcuck thing at its core. The Ozzy records, banning all videogames (this started at the “Mario jumps on turtles” age, not GTA), the lead drinking and breathing, 5 pack a day, boozing since 12 years old boomers were convinced pop culture in general was satanic. You even see their feebleminded retard spawn struggling to form the same sentences on /pol/ today (more focus on ze joos than satan though). Without the Rosemary’s Baby framing of literal satanic cults you just have the same shit the boomers grew up with and normalized. Diddlers. Pederasts. These enlightened fucking jewels of our age didn’t even ban child porn until the 70s, and spearheaded the “psychological” ideas of children being introduced to sex by their parents and other insanity. As part of the whole sexual revolution they were rebelling agains the backward ways of their parents you see, the era of feminism and free love and drugs was all boomer led. By the 80s and 90s they were pretending to be conservative however and screaming about MY KEEDZ BABY, and the corrupting influences of the society they created. They needed it to be literal satanic cults operating in secret because the idea that it was just the perversions of their own generation come home to roost was too much.
>>25339542Fucking idiot.
>>25341690LOL my mom looovvvveeed participating in online self righteous outrage culture over "child abuse" and "pornsickness" as she was actively sexually abusing us (not violently but still) and letting us eat moldy bread cause she was "too good for food stamps"(or a job). I'm sorry anon.
How do we combat the performative reading issue?
By making everyone read epubs on their phones
i watch dark souls 1 secrets videos on max volume with no earbuds
>>25336792I wonder how finnegans wake would fit on that graph
>>25336746Women aren't interesting.
>>25343888What a silly way to go about it
Post some feminist classics and contemporary books written by queens!
>>25338517Thoughts on pic rel?I thought it was alright, and wish I could find more prose like it. Something about the minimalist aesthetic keeps me reading Cusk.
>>25338517I though "The Bees" by Laline Paul was pretty good.
>>25341963have you read anything else by her?I tried Outline a few months back and it was one of the only books I actually didn't finish in recent memory. I found the minimalist aesthetic to be incredibly boring. I'm not usually one to not finish a book so I've wondered if I just went into it in the wrong headspace and missed what's good about it. If you think Parade is better I'll give it a shot>>25338517Miranda July iirc rarely if ever talks about feminism directly but I'd still throw her in that camp. Picrel was very good I thought, super funny and imo her best offering so far across both her films and books. She has one of my favorite narrative voices, I find it very easy to put myself in the character's head even though I'm really nothing like her
>>25342110Parade is definitely on the non-linear side. I do remember reading Outline, but I couldn't tell you anything about the plot; Cusk seems to be entirely about the aesthetic.
The Second Sex is the only feminist book that matters.
I recently bought the book "1984", what other similar works do you recommend? I already have "a brave new world" and I want another book of this dystopian future stuff
>>25338333nigga I'll live the past as the present as I want
>>25335446Brave New World is more accurate. The reason is also very simple. Huxley knew the people behind the scenes Orwell didn't.
>>25335446it wasn't supposed to be an instruction manual
>>25340975Orwell used to frequent underground pamphlet clubs to collect ideas for stories and characters, he mentions this several times in the essays he wrote from 1939-45
>>25335624You didn't read it.
Which Narnia book is your favorite?For me it goesThe Horse and His Boy Voyage of the Dawn TreaderThe Last BattleThe Magicians Nephew The Lion The Witch and the WardrobePrince CaspianThe Silver Chair
The Silver Chair is actually my favorite Narnia book. Puddleglum was a very fun hero, and the plot point of Jill forgetting Aslan's instructions was very clever. I also love the escape from the giants. My only complaint is that the Green Witch wasn't developed enough as an antagonist.
>>25343084I was probably too harsh on Silver Chair. Puddleglum is good but I was not a fan of Jill who as the perspective character brings it down. And while Puddleglum was nice introducing new races and species of fantasy creatures never mentioned before that late into the series isn't something I cared for either.I could probably bump it higher than Caspian on further thought though. Maybe even Lion Witch Wardrobe
>>25343069The Horse and His BoyI could read it a thousand times and I wouldn't get tired of it.
>>25343069— Horse And His BoyTop I guess. Much the best plot. Great opening which hooks you smoothly into the adventure. Satisfying ending. Maybe it loses a dimension through being set entirely in Narnia (Calormen, whatever). And through not having a formidable antagonist.— The Lion, the Witch and the WardrobeThe freshest and probably the most intense (quasi-crucifixion in particular). The witch is great, Edmund is a little shit, Lucy is a sweetheart.— Prince CaspianGood opening with Caspian and his tutor. Nice couple of chapters with the children gradually realizing the time lapse. But it fell away a bit from the midpoint onward. I suppose the duel is a sort of climax but only sort of.— The Magician's NephewDecent story for an origin myth. Lots of vivid set-pieces (Charn, creation of Narnia). Jadis is good. Uncle Andrew is funny-nasty. But there are just too many arbitrary things all of which are only there to set the stage for TLTWATW.— The Voyage of the Dawn TreaderComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25343069>Puddleglum's defence of faith at the key moment is good.If anyone liked The Silver Chair, Lewis has a text called Transposition in which he further explains the point he was trying to illustrate with the dialogue between the Green Lady and the kids
Finished it recently in like the last month. It was really good read when I picked it up. Seemed to be a short story that most people pick up for their first story.I liked the main character, how he is shown a different perspective on viewing his life by a stranger, hating his wife which just listens to tv and music all day barely functional as her own person, the english professor he befriends and the ending was a nice wrap up.I honestly wanted to start reading because I want to read moby dick to understand MGS5 better and had no interest in reading beforehand but was obviously self aware that I was severely lacking any ability to read critically. Also the fact that I probably have to read a lot of literature to understand the references of moby dick pulls from like the bible.Should I keep reading? What should my next book be? Should I know anything before reading more?
>>25339018If you liked F451, you should either read 1984 or Brave New World. Those are much better dystopians.I personally disliked this book. For me, it was just an American cheap copy of 1984, but the author hated capitalism instead of socialism. I also HATE the pretentious bullshit of feeling you are superior because you read a book and other people don't. Imagine a movie about a guy who saves DVDs and VHSs from the thought police. Same shitty energy.
>>25339977>bullshit of feeling you are superior because you read a book and other people don't.... but you are
>>25339018read fightclub, it's fun. never make reading a chore. always drop a book if you find yourself starting to dread it. you may come back to it later. in time, you'll find yourself drawn to the dusty old tomes later.
>>25339162God I need to reread MD so bad>>25339213You can if your sole aim is to understand mgs5, but I think it's worthwhile to at least attempt to enjoy the book fully, it's truly a magical work that will help you better appreciate life in its every aspect. And don't get lost in the references, you'll get really bogged down. Just read it and enjoy it for what it is (and really the star of the show is the prose; try to subvocalize/read aloud and sense the rhythm, it's like poetry in a sense). If there's a detail that truly intrigues you, only then look up what it's referencing to.
>>25339018>first book everYou need to be 18 to post here
Thoughts on the works of Marian Engel?
>>25343668More goes to show that Canada is retarded. Bestiality is the least literary perversion, its transgression amounting to low comedy. Homosexuality fares little better due to its effusive melancholy. Incest is the most literary perversion.
>>25343709True, actually, I have changed my opinion on this thread. fuck Canadians.
>>25343657>Expected smut with a bear>Get a coming of age story about a middle aged woman having a midlife crisis>Bear doesn't do anything except claw her back and eat >One scene where she plays with it's balls>Nothing elseThis beastiality book is far overblown.
>>25343709What about pedophilia?
>>25343728Below incest but above homosex.
>Book ends>Author goes on tangent about troutsWHAT
>>25341377McCarthy is a shit writer. It's genuinely a mark against your character if you make it to the end of one of his books.
>>25341796The epilogue of All The Pretty Horses is amazing for the reasons you stated, amazing scene of Grady Cole passing by natives living under oil rigs and going even further into the wilderness. He is not only the last cowboy, but the last native of the wilderness.Orchard Keeper? Impossible to remember anything that happened in that book.
>>25343141You're retarded
>>25341377>book ends with the author admitting his predatory murderous homosexuality has transformed him into a destroyed evil thing rightfully sentenced to life in the hell that is his existence on earth >immediately explains how great it feels to fuck a boy in sensory depravation
>>25343435And yet smarter than you.
>”If 18th-19th Century German society had read Cervantes instead of Kant, Hegel or Nietzsche they would’ve spared themselves two World Wars.”Is this Spanish literature teacher in the right?
>>25343164>FrenchAssume that they are superior to everyone else in French fashion>SpaniardsSeething in the corner while clinging to Cervantes>GermansSmugly sit on top of Wagner and Goethe >EnglishToo busy decoding Shakespeare to even remember that other countries exist
>>25341228in all fairness i"m pretty sure that's not his setup, he was a guest in some other show
>>25343164>trying to bring one of their own up to his levelkek
>>25340659No, that's fucking retarded
>>25341838>The Germans literally--not figuratively but literally and PROVABLY--tried to stop World War I from happeningIf nobody was itching for WW1, it would just have been a border skirmish. Not that different from Israel bombing any of their neighbor countries in retaliation from hosting whatever puppet group it contains. If Germany did not want WW1, they could have done the same as Scandinavia did. They did not have to sign treaties and be itching for WW1 themselves. Why did the Europeans itch for WW1? Because at that point anybody with even anything resembling an army had been fighting various colony wars with their new fancy gear, and was high on their victories. >>25341166Don Quixote still do things men want to do, which is the allure and selling point.His failure is a bonus, even more so when the prose is very poorly translated.
is this the most influential book of the past decade? it almost feels like a psyop
>>25343513because the book and the author by themselves were instrumental in organizing the movement that is currently pressuring governments around the world to put age limits on social media usage and internet access more generally
>>25343513His book the Righteous Mind was good.
>>25343538To be fair underage kids shouldn't be online.
Social media with all its flaws brings the unlimited ability to share opinions that call out propaganda and horrible people in power, and governments are stumped by this, their only real threat by now. They want to ban it for those under 18 because those are the mushy brain years where they can make the poisonous dystopia we live in seem normal, healthy, and worth defending through institutionalized brainwashing.
>>25343625social media has made the poisonous dystopia we live in seem normal to them. have you never talked to a zoomer?
This is really good I just wish my brain got purged from D&D, Warcraft, and all the other countless derivatives so I could enjoy it even more.
>>25339466Most of fantasy slop is LOTR derived, including the looting of dungeons and dead orcs and goblins for their stuff.
>>25342335>>25342327The Fatman and Little Boy of cope
The Return of the King is the most exciting thing I've ever read.
What other Tolkien works are worth reading after The Hobbit and The LOTR?
>>25343112So, relatively little cope, compared to cope in general?
