ye olde: >>25323801>Recommended reading charts (look here before asking for vague recommendations):https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
>>25350143Its that guys heart they preserved, forgot his name already because I havent read the series in a while but im pretty sure some ritual with the heart is how you get the nightmares.
>>25345544I was also interested in this question and listened to the three recommended here.Feral Historian has a great voice and presentation, but his schtick appears to be solely "epic Gen-Xer brutally demolishes the right and left alike with his wisdom, intelligence, and snark." Very stinky. Also has a weird habit of reviewing book series adaptations instead of the actual book. I guess it's easier to find b-roll?Tale Foundry is the exact opposite, almost to the point where you guys planned it. It's a waaaayyyyy over-produced softboy millennial shit. You can hear the implied ellipses at the end of half his sentences and it's always the most trite observation, shit such as "what if... the true horror of the unknown... is that it actually seems quite familiar...?" That's almost a direct quote.Outlaw Bookseller is the winner here and is genuinely excellent. A crusty old brit holding up beat up books in front of the camera and going "i love this book a lot, here's why", and he's been in the SFF space for 40 years and is clearly well versed in the trends and subgenres. Great stuff. Glad I waded through the other two to get to him.
>>25350093>John Clute is an atheist and he LOVES the Solar Cycle series.Ok, let me rephrase that. It makes sense to people who understand religion. I'm an atheist because I realized I just don't get religion in any sense. IMO it's appealing to the kind of person who's obsessed with lore and fan theories which I am not
>>25345544Men of the West if you like LotRASOIAF youtube used to be good but 15 years of no book has made it pretty miserable and every theorist has their head so far up their ass to the point that they take their 10-year-old crackpot theories (Mance and the other Wildling leadership are Rhaegar + his kingsguard, Quentyn is alive, etc.) as true and have moved to extrapolate from that head canon.There's a guy called "First Timers" and he has a bunch of channels for expressing his thoughts as he reads different book series for the first time and some of them are interesting. He at least pays close attention to what's going on and asks good questions as he theorizes what he think is going on in each story. One of his channels he's doing Sanderson and it's kinda funny how he's managed to put into words both my critiques and praises of him.
>>25350203>One of his channels he's doing Sanderson and it's kinda funny how he's managed to put into words both my critiques and praises of him.Interesting maybe Ill check out what he says about Sun Eater
>The sorcerer Virgil had himself chopped in pieces and placed in a cauldron to be cooked for eight days, thus to become rejuvinated. He had someone watch out that no intruder peeped into the cauldron. The watchman was unable, however, to resist the temptations. It was too soon. Virgil disappeared with a cry, like a little child. >I, too, have probably looked too early into the cauldron, into the cauldron of life and its historical development, and no doubt will never manage to be more than a child.
>>25349556i'm hella blazed rn but uhh the first part sounds like the guard ate him. then he says he's like the child? tf
>>25349556ask Chadgeebeedee
>>25349556Kirk did philosophy too early it turned him into an anxious eternal manchild
>>25349557Kierkegaard BTFO
>>25349550Virgil was a sorcerer? How did he end up in the Noble Pagan circle of Hell?
So, /lit/? Which is worse?
>>25349603But are they really wrong, though, thirdie?
>>25349401>DID YOU KNOW YOU CAN GASLIGHT PEOPLE???oh wow reallyLike the article has a unique purpose of showing the extent of people's agreed hallucinations but it definitely doesn't deserve a whole thread on /lit/. This is low effort low quality.
>>25349606If you are framing it in terms of right and wrong then you haven't read or failed to understand OP's post.
>>25349626Disingenuous response.
>>25349649Calling my response disengeous won't changed the fact that you missed OP's point. But that's expected from someone who can't see beyond their own brainwash.
I don't want to live in a world where unconditional love is frowned upon
>>25345781>The message people take from the book is "the boy takes from the tree until it's destroyed". >It's not like it would be hard to write a story where the boy took care to replant trees showing a cycle of regrowth, and "giving back". But instead the tree is just stripped and killed. This is the mentality of a virus or parasite where the host only exists to be used until it dies.there's a reason the book is from the tree's perspective, anonthe actual message of the book is "my love is without limits, there is nothing i wouldn't do for the person that depends on me". it's a message every normal parent understands the second they hold their new child.obviously the childless don't get this and i don't blame them, though if they have pets you'd think they get it a little bit. however, the real evil people are the moms that resent their kids because they can't go out as much and they have to cut back on Netflix. they're the ones that react with shock at its message.
>>25348449>the moms that resent their kids because they can't go out as much and they have to cut back on Netflixever hear a mommy tell a daddy i wanted to get an abortion in front of the toddler
>>25348455literally yes lol. i was a teenager myself and it was at six flags with my friend's family. his baby sister was 10 years younger than him.
>>25348502
There are two competing takeaways from the semi-tragedy of The Giving Tree:"I will never be as foolish as the Giving Tree!"or"I will never be as uncaring as the boy!"But the only way to apply these lessons is to first identify people whose traits align with either character. When it comes to something as latent as love, poor judgments are inevitable. The bitter people will see everyone as a possible Boy, but the empathetic people will see everyone as a possible Giving Tree. The bitter people are defensive, the empathetic are vulnerable. All the Giving Tree does for its readers is expose and magnify the dispositions of these people.>>25341093>>25341188The bitter>>25340934>>25341128The empathetic
Summarize a book with a smiling friends quote >> no matter how different we all are, everyone can get along with each other... Except for a certain group of people. [points at viewer] >>>You know who I'm talking about.
>>25346997Jews were killing thise babies for Yahweh
>>25346892>Alan...we are so FUCKED
>>25347032How do you even know about smiling friends if you’re not a manchild? It’s not like Simpsons where it’s ubiquitous
>>25347263It's as close as we'll ever get to a simpsons for gen z
>>25346892Revelation:>Hell is actually real, and Christianity was right all along.
ITT we give prompts for short stories and write them! Anyone can suggest a prompt, anyone can write a prompt! Be sure to clarify which one you're writing about.Opening Prompts: Write me a story about...>Inventing the fork>Fighting off a pack of wild ducks>A eulogy by someone who sucks at eulogies>Finding a mysterious object in space>Winning/losing a lawsuit>Explaining taxes to a kindergartenerComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25330901This was great. The build up to him finishing that sentence perfect. 10/10 - got a smile from me.
ayo bump
>>25341962A delicious satire on the typical, innocent, ignorant, indifferent American perspective of warfare.
>>25345409Something something wageslave metaphor> If he could hear the ringing so clearly despite the void, why would he not be able to hear the caller's voice through his helmet? The strangeness of the situation, to him, seemed normal.These lines don't seem necessary. His acceptance of the bizarre circumstances is already evident by the fact he went out to take the phone call, And the conflict of the vacuum of space has already been acknowledged and overridden.
>>25349604You're so right. That is entirely redundant.For things that border on science fiction, I have an irrational fear that the reader, rather than seeing an inexplicable phenomenon, will instead write me off as the kind of fool who calls a trip to Mars 'intergalactic'. The first draft was two posts long because there were even more lines of 'we both know this is whacky, right reader?"
How often do you guys set aside books? I have a tendency to fixate on whatever book I'm reading and it's hard for me to put it down and read something else even if I'm getting a little bored. It makes it difficult for me to pick up long books, especially difficult nonfiction ones. Do you guys have any rules you follow or conditions you have to meet before you decide to set aside a book? Am I overthinking it? Probably.
there's like 4 books this year I started but haven't been picked back up. my attention span just sucks cos I spend like 3 hours a day reading TwiXer and 4chan instead of books.
>>25349423Separate structured queues. >Fiction: Novels; Poetry/ShortsDaily 1x the latter>Non-Fiction: History, Philosophy, WildcardHistory can be returned to whenever. >Secondary Literature, ArtYou can subdivide and scale up or down from there. If it's an author you enjoy, do their whole output. If you make exceptions, they need to be thematically coherent.
Hello, I am working on a story you can find either through my Carrd (https://staggerloop.carrd.co/) or on RoyalRoad (https://www.royalroad.com/author-dashboard/dashboard/168985) and ScribbleHub (www.scribblehub.com/series/2337452/stagger-loop/stats/) The narrative is currently 97~ pages published on either site. It is an experiential story that has aspects of body horror and scifi, among with weird-fiction and similar. Narrative is dense and uncompromising, you are meant to meet the story halfway, you won't be told anything directly. I am looking for critique and advice, and an editor if anyone is available.
Right, that is fair. Firstly I am going to talk about the front loading. While I never intend for you to remember all the names of the species until it becomes, the front loading is not so much the species, but rather the overarching term that encapsulates them. Yes, the physical descriptions will often be paired with the names. As for the 'he' of chapter 1, it is to be assumed that the he of act 1 is the same one in chapter 1, you caught an inconsistency with the blood, I will have to fix that. Thanks. Regarding the visit, to be frank that is a bit of an issue there, I have to look into how I can change it. I don't necessarily story board, but as far as I've gotten into the story in my google doc, I have something more meaningful that could replace that interaction. I will probably cut out the entire interaction because yes, it doesn't seem natural, and actually doesn't seem consistent with later sections.This is valuable information and critique. I think changing the interaction in chapter 1 actually might help establish a direction. But as well, interludes are more so meant to expand the narrative scope, I am not inherently trying to focus on a single story, but the eventual convergence of multiple. As for Erick, he's operating in a much more instinct-driven state at the beginning. A lot of his behaviour in the early chapters is closer to animal instinct than deliberate decision-making due to his condition. This changes later, but I can see why you might hop off at that point. I'll work on it now that I have a scope of the problem area.
"While I never intend for you to remember all the names of the species until it becomes 'relevant',"Sometimes the brain things faster than you write. Smh.
>>25347623Thanks again. Your critique helped me identify where the reading experience was drifting. I've gone back and revised those sections, so if you ever revisit it, I hope the experience is smoother.
you a real nigga, just like me
Nah I'm ultra racist, nigger.
ChristLARPing is out, MarxLARPing is in. Now that it's become clear mass immigration is caused by capitalism, where do I start with Marx and Engels? I've heard Anti-Dühring is a good primer
>>25349269excellent.thank you
>>25345577because we're supposed to believe what McGraw Hill and Wikipedia told us about famous people instead of forming our own opinions
>>25345669out of 10
>>25345322Right wing philosophers have no economic theory besides people like Ayn Rand and Murray Rothbard, or conversely they latch onto guilds and the feudal system. The philosophy of the future will be composed of revolutionary conservatives that admire both Hitler and Marx (PBUH).
>>25345322I'm seeing a lot of astroturfing from Marxists recently. It's clear that they're organised in a secret discord.
Literarily speaking do so many writers tend to be LARPers and posers?Take Cormac Mccarthy for instance>yankee born, irish catholic by blood>wealthy lawyers son, grew up in a large house and went to an upstanding high school>degree in liberal arts at a good college>urbanite who never experienced violence in his life>proto woke (see suttree)>chose to larp as a poor southern hillbillyi don't think mccarthy ever shot an animal or rode a horse or got into a bar brawl in his entire life
>>25348342>projectionYou’re a third worlder that can’t even pretend to have insight on how the average westerner thinks, which is why you think shit like this is mind-blowing. Please, elaborate on how the entertainment industry lies saar. Lmfao
>"there are no good writers anymore">look inside>nobody is adventurous anymore
>>25348317wise>>25347804I respect people who do this successfully. don't we all want to transcend our selves?
>>25347804>The poets, as you know, tell us that they get their honey-songs from honey-founts of the Muses, and pluck from what they call Muses’ gardens, and Muses’ dells, and bring them to us, like honeybees, on the wing themselves like the bees; and what they say is true. For the poet is an airy thing, a winged and a holy thing; and he cannot make poetry until he becomes inspired and goes out of his senses and no mind is left in him; so long as he keeps possession of this, no man is able to make poetry and chant oracles. Not by art, then, they make their poetry with all those fine things about all sorts of matters—like your speeches about Homer—not by art, but by divine dispensation; therefore, the only poetry that each one can make is what the Muse has pushed him to make, one ecstatic odes, one hymns of praise, one songs for dance or pantomime, one epic, one satiric iambic; in every other kind each one of them is a failure. For not by art do they speak these things, but by divine power, since if an art taught them how to speak well in one kind, they could do it also in all the other kinds. Therefore God takes the mind out of the poets, and uses them as his servants, and so also those who chant oracles, and divine seers; because he wishes us to know that not those we hear, who have no mind in them, are those who say such precious things, but God himself is the speaker, and through them he shows his meaning to us.
>>25348191Only decent argument in this thread >>25348031Stop posting
>ww3 starts>you get drafted>what book are you bringing on deployment?
>>25333149I'm not joining, jidf.
>>25333193Nice try lulling these people into a false sense of security, as if these "useless eaters" aren't the most disposable members of society.
>>25347714>um sweaty it's not my job to educate you
>>25333149Halo The Fall Of Reach.
>>25333149>Constitution>Point to the 13th & 1st (Establishment ClauseAin't happening, Gulf War 4 Boomer.
He's right isn't he?
>>25345518>Francis Fukayomomawhat did he say?Also, how am I supposed to take him seriously with a name like that?
>>25347774This "liberal democracy" is just an euphemism for unelected jewish oligarchs controlling the world
>>25347658Because it's the 98th time we have it and 90% of the replies boil down to : >liberalism will win because le heckin goyslop>liberalism will fail because le heckin trooonsNone of you guys are actually interested in engaging with his book. This is just the weekly occasion for a political rant
>>25345518I mean the foremost liberal democracy just lost a war to a backward theocracy. There's no sign of Iran or China liberalizing, so liberalism being the end of history is looking more unlikely.
>>25345518It writes itself sometimes. You just gotta have eyes to see it. The right clown in the wrong place can make all the difference in a society.
This may have done numbers back when it first came out, but achieved next to nothing when reading recently.Thoughts, anons? Literary device meta masterpiece or pretentious drivel?
>>25348284Yes, as a literate person I have read Matthew Arnold. Literature is not for you.
>>25346493The Alchemist for people who think they're too smart for The Alchemist
>>25346493>pretentioussounds like it went over your head
>>25349011I read alphonsus ibarruri, sit down white boi
Sebald, but without discernible talent.
You’re an infantile piece of shit.
Those niggas got laid
>>25344669>It took me four years to paint like Raphael, but a lifetime to paint like a child - PicassoYou’re no artist. Who the fuck are you?
>>25344669you can find some footage of freud online. he moves around and gestures like a massive faggot in them. you'll know it if you find the right clipssure you can read him because he's influential and whatnot but he's a fag and that's enough of a reason to never take anything he ever said seriously
>>25344669what do you think frued would have thought of crash
>>25347052https://youtu.be/BNx54Gr9ewMI don't see it at all. I think you might be projecting, anon.
Work can be, people hurt themselves trying to find work, They can't find jobs that they have peace with so they do rough jobs that hurts them a lot, this is Pushing themselves in looking working for some better goal in life they think will come from money,convincing themselves, the pushing is hurtAnd then in the end, there is no end and no there is goal, because there is no wayAnd all this show you, this is not what a good community would do to someone, but this is the nature of it, the way world works, only a stupid fuck dick would go day to day thinking this now fine. Your all dicks. you do not have much of a community or government, its more just system management. The system manager forgot you were real people, because there were just too many of you to compute, so he made a system for the government to ignore you and rat race insolation in nothingness l, he left the building and hes gone, but he's in another building with his cock suckers around him thinks thats that's the would, but really he got paid to manage the whole thing. Maybe you're happy your stock went up, you talked to a nice lady and your work was done well and you got paid. But some people are sitting in a dark in in debt or shrinking stocks, or with no home, with non-work pay or their ideas breaking or not going anywhere, alone in a the dark, maybe addicted to something expensive, maybe they chose a hurtful thing to get by or just live with the pain of not getting by as well, and no one cares, and you said I'm happy and this place is great because you had a nice day or your stocks went up.
>>25349396Some interesting points here and there but overall bad
Once you had a website that Google would send some clients to, you lost interest in the work, let it get stale or something, and website people bounced, Google stopped send people there permanently, you want work again, you do up the website with new offers, and stat number of new project business, Google doesn't like new, don't send people to the old site, No one sees your new site except through cold calling or advertising. A.i. or real government could see your looking for work and send some people your way, or provide the work you want. Maybe you eventually get the work from Google and it picks up and you have too much or lose interest again and it keeps sending new people, and it starts all over again. The answer could be maybe looking for updates maybe or an understood system for individual people looking for freelance work and not cooperation looking for it all and employing people for maximum profit and milking their clients.
