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What was his problem with indians?
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>>25593489
He knew he could never write anything as poignant and beautiful as what Indians came up with thousands of years before him
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>>25593489
And they say chuds can't write.
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>>25594715
I had no idea he travelled so much. He seems to have lived quite well, maybe I should finally give one of his novels a try, maybe they aren't as stuffy as I've always imagined.
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Anons you should read the books describing the thuggee suppression by the brits in the 1800s.
Like Sleeman or thurston's books
They later influuenced a lot of late 19th century horror and crime books.

In summary they were ritualised strangler highwaymen
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>>25593489
There is no aspect of their culture which isn't repugnant to anyone who is even the least bit civilized.

The cheapness in which they hold human life, including their own, is something most people flatly cannot conceive of. To say nothing of dignity.

They take the greatest pride in that which is shameful and would be ashamed in behavior that would form a rational basis for pride. Honesty, kindness, diligence, caution, these are shameful behaviors in Indian culture. Lying, cheating, raping and killing are the marks of pride.

>calling political/continental philosophy "theory"
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>>25595657
For a lot of hipster comp lit types, all of philosophy is "theory." I've seen university functionaries try to co-opt analytic philosophy of language for some underdeveloped and philosophically ill-informed "reading" of a book they'll never understand.
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>>25595657
you're brown
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>>25595734
The behavior described by OP is by no means a white thing, you retard.
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>frogposter
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>>25595657
>doesn't know what "theory" means
Start with the Greeks

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Finally, some good news
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>>25595553
Buy an ad, twitterfag. No one cares for your highschool student-tier writing.
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>>25595553
I wish him and the behead all satans guy had kept writing. BAS was a lot more avant garde and representative of the 2010's but DT's work was at least fun. Sad none of them from that era seemed to be able to keep it up.
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>>25595553
this shit and defaultfriend were the first substacks I ever read back in the day. man was i a retard wow
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>>25595716
that bitch almost interviewed me too! I could've been a contender
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>>25595756
who are you?

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Due to the success of the NY /lit/ meetup, we are starting a CT chapter. First meetup is Thursday evening.

Sick of shallow book talk and blank looks when you bring up serious literature or philosophy? If you’re in or near Hartford CT, come to the CT /lit/ meetup on Thursday, October 15th. We’re here for raw, unfiltered discussion. Meet in person and say what you mean.

If you're interested email CTlitmeeetup@proton.me and I'll give you the place and time
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>>25594865
>It happened. It was fun.
Minimalist. So what actually happened nerd?
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>>25594998
Yeah, thanks but no. I’m over 3000 miles away for one.
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>>25595499
too poor to afford a plane ticket to come hang out with some cool anons?
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>>25595503
>cool
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>>25594998
I drove an hour for this shit fuck yourseld

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Spooky Season edition

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Banned Authors:
R. Scott Bakker
G.R.R. Martin
Brandon Sanderson
(Your) personal favorite author
R. Scott Bakker
All women (excl. Mary Gentle & C.J. Cherryh)

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

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>>25596024
Dumbass, the Noocytes fix all of his physical abnormalities and make him a chad. Did you not read the fucking book?
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>>25596024
>>he has sex with a woman who says OH BABY YOU MADE ME CUM 6 TIMES
Ok, but the book itself is actually quite great. To some degree it has to be appreciated as a product of it's time - a really really early example of a technological singularity story. I read it when I was maybe 12 or 13 in the mid 80's and it was utterly amazing to me.
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>>25595772
Conan the Barbarian = Coh-Nan
Conan O'Brien = Coh-Nin
Detective Conan = ???
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>>25596221
>Detective Conan = ???
in 2010 a filipino guy at my factory job introduced me to it and he pronounced it Coh-Nan but I reckon it should be like O'brien
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>>25596399

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i have not posted on esoterik kantianism in some time because i am doing deep research into the wolffian context of transcendental philosophy as well esoterik kantianism predecessors in the nachtseite naturphilosophen. naturally, since most of these works remain untranslated into english due to probably deeply hidden conspiracy theory reasons, i've also had to dedicate extraordinary time and effort into obtaining a complete mastery of the german language at a minimum, not to mention the greek and latin. for all these reasons, along with a crippling twitter addiction, esoterik kantposting has come to a stand still. HOWEVER, the movement continues to develop in the shadows, the system of pure techno-practical reason will serve as the second propadeutic to the initial propadeutic of the first critique, enlightened by the post-kantian idealists.

in the meantime, be patient. continue your kant readings and do be discouraged by the difficult labor of the concept.
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>>25591748
the sad truth is there is no esoteric Kant... this movement is founded by retarded fags that have no fucking clue what they are talking about... get over it
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>>25594901
yes there is!
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>>25591748
How do you know so much?
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>>25594901
It’s fun to hypothesise.
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>>25595576
it's fun to hypotenuse

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Why are writers (especially young, unpublished ones) the most egotistical people on the planet? Doesn't egotism go against the whole spirit of writing?
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>>25591453
If you cannot imagine anyone more egotistical on the entire planet than some snot nosed wannabe writer, then you have a severe intellectual disability. And while contemporary medical science tells us you cannot beat stupid out of a mongoloid, I sure think someone ought to try in your case.
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>>25591497
I write stories to contemplate ideas I don't understand or lack the language to communicate.
Are you saying I should be publishing?
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>>25591453
>spirit of writing
Go read Hume.
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>>25593594
Are you that jeet who shills his horror "books" on here?
>>25593654
Now this is funny
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>>25593711
Yes
!!!!!

Was he right?
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>>25588689
bump
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>>25591338
In his last interview he talks about Spengler
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>>25593126
I dont think Adorno "despised" Spengler, he admited he was right about much more of his contemporaries. He wanted to use some of Spengler's themes and ideas for his own ends.
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>>25586829
Lol
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>>25586377
Yeah but all that part about gay anal sex is pretty disgusting desu

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Any other books like this that shine light on crazy stuff the government tried to cover up?

Really really good book for those who haven't heard of it, I couldn't put it down.
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>>25595023
My reaction as well.
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>>25595534
The book is even crazier, it's a great read.

>>25595431
I've got Damascus Station on my list now, thanks.
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>>25595081
What about Roald Dahl?
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>>25595451
John Le Carre is like being a post-war Englishman: And Then Shit Got Worse.
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>>25595594
>What about Roald Dahl?
Fucked kids.

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Is Thom Pynchon overrated?
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>>25592973
HE EAT DA POOPOO
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>>25594301
wdym
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>>25592973
Yes.
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>>25592973
Awkward Mary being awkward again!
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>>25592973
He doesn’t write well enough. Compare him to Delillo. He’s obviously smarter than Delillo but he writes worse. It’s not really literature

I don't understand the solution to the puzzle in this story.
Can /lit/ explain it?

matthieupageau.substack.com/p/the-haunted-mirror

I also welcome interpretations of the story itself. Why does he wish upon a mirror specifically?
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>>25594852
you are too annoying to describe
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>>25594212
1. After reading that story, I don't think that "puzzle" is intended to be logical.
2. That author follows and retweets (whatever retweeting is called on substack) ai obsessed jeet writers that call themselves "Curt."
It's really sad that /lit/ has been reduced to being self promotion grounds for THIS AI-jeet loving archetype of xitter user, on top of already being a battlefield of emotions for that other archetype of xitter user that watches femboy nick fuentes and cries here all day.
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>>25594212
>miror
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look up The Book of Abramelin
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>>25594818
SATOR
ATORO
TOROT
OROTA
ROTAS

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We don't need this many Nietzsche threads in one day. Fucking stop it.
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>>25591202
BASED
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>>25590647
technically, this is a nietzsche thread
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>>25594138
Nope. I'm just telling you performative faggots to reel it in a bit. That's all.
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we need more Aristotle threads
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I don't understand why there's a philosophy general if no one is going to use it. Half the fucking catalog here is philosophyfags.

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Am I a retard? I'm on chapter 16 and barely have any idea what's going on.
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>>25591644
Haven't read Idoru yet. I just finished the Sprawl series and someone who's opinions I trust recommended I start Jackpot and kinda warned me it was difficult to get into but worth it.
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>>25591649
You see the patterns developing as you read his older stuff. His trilogy pre Jackpot, Pattern Recognition, Spook Country and Zero History, read like him wanting to show off cool stuff he learned about in the early internet originally and discuss weird government conspiracies. Peripheral got my back up a little on its own, and when I saw the blurb for the sequel to Peripheral ("In a world where Hillary Clinton won in 2016, a black female fbi agent..") I just threw my hands up on his work.
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>>25591466
You're meant to pick things up as you go along. Maybe you could ask AI for a summary.
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>>25591481
I think it's extremely tacky and I wouldn't include on my book cover (I don't write).
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What does /lit/ think about the Nouveau Roman? Was it simply a failed 20th century literary experiment that should be forgotten, or did authors like Robbe-Grillet, Butor and Simon manage to innovate the novel form beyond the stagnating conventions of plot and character?
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>>25592520
Woah bro you looked at wikipedia’s entry of the new novel and listed the writers it directly mentions. Profound insight. Truly an intellectual titan
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>>25586071
>manage to innovate the novel form beyond the stagnating conventions of plot and character
No one has to look to them to not put much emphasis on either. Literature isn't a monolith
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>>25594273
How do you know what’s on the Wikipedia page, anon?
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>>25592520
I think the primary effect of nouveau roman, oulipo, the various niche movements like them and the experimental novel in general is that they help us better understand what the novel is by exploring what it is not. We call them novels but in what ways do they relate to the novel other than the vague and meaningless "long form fiction." The novel is ultimately built up from a collection of conventions which have evolved over the centuries, these experiments break most of the conventions and have about as much in common with the novel as an epic poem does. I suspect if any of these experiments ever gained wide acceptance they would actually be a new form unless they also managed to replace the novel.

Even Hawkes who famously said that setting, plot, theme and character are the enemy of the novel did not try and do away with them, he just changed our relation to them and moved further away from theater's idea of these things which the novel inherited and dominated the novel until the late 19th century. Setting is probably the easiest aspect to understand in Hawkes' work, in The Lime Twig he gives us some basic details of setting but doesn't really set anything until the plane appears and setting is completely defined in relation to the event instead of the place; setting becomes more of an impression and a feeling (the nightmarish quality so often attributed to Hawkes), the old ideas of setting and mood are unified into something unique to the novel that would be very difficult to accomplish in other mediums.

The novel and fiction are still quite young compared to other mediums and we are still figuring it all out. We have a better understanding of film than we do of the novel, film was able to build very directly on theater, its understanding of setting, plot, theme, and character are essentially the same, all that really changed was the stage.

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dyke did not miss
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>>25594869
nearly every poem pushes the english language to the absolute limits of meaning, somehow leaving only those mere em-dashes as the last bit of scaffolding which, like a miracle, strings everything together. Kike publishing doesn't mean shit when you know you are sitting on a goddamn diamond mine. Probably the greatest "Apollonian" work to ever exist in English imo
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>>25595062
I don't know much about poetry, I only read for the plot and the philosophical meaning of a novel. How can I educate myself more on poetry? Any books on that like a historical introduction or something?
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>>25595085
look up the coursera course "Modpo" it's basically a totally free MFA (without the dogshit) in poetry starting from Dickinson on - their yt channel is often helpful too

https://www.youtube.com/@ModPoPenn

I did the course for like four years straight and learned a fuck ton just about the nature of reading alone
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>>25594710
If the goal was to be the most quirk chungus poet of her lifetime, she did indeed not miss.
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>>25595294
nah, my nigga kay ryan got this shit locked down


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