>is the greatest children's book ever written
>>25212979>Winnie-the-Pooh>>25211546>AliceThere's room for everything. Apart from anything else, in terms of the difficulty of the language, chronologically, it surely goes Pooh —> Alice —> Wind.
>>25215038But Pooh and Alice lack a spiritual numinous connection with nature that Grahame possessed in spades. It even shows in his other writing>Of pulpiteers and parents it is called Original Sin: a term wherewith they brand whatever frisks and butts with rude goatish horns against accepted maxims and trim theories of education. In the abstract, of course, this fitful stirring of the old yeast is no more sin than a natural craving for a seat on a high stool, for the inscription—now horizontal, and now vertical—of figures, is sin. But the deskmen command a temporary majority: for the short while they shall hold the cards they have the right to call the game. And so—since we must bow to the storm—let the one thing be labelled Sin, and the other Salvation—for a season: ourselves forgetting never that it is all a matter of nomenclature. What we have now first to note is that this original Waft from the Garden asserts itself most vigorously in the Child. This it is that thrusts the small boy out under the naked heavens, to enact a sorry and shivering Crusoe on an islet in the duck-pond. This it is that sends the little girl footing it after the gipsy’s van, oblivious of lessons, puddings, the embrace maternal, the paternal smack; hearing naught save the faint, far bugle-summons to the pre-historic little savage that thrills and answers in the tingling blood of her; seeing only a troop of dusky, dull-eyed guides along that shining highway to the dim land east o’ the sun and west o’ the moon: where freedom is, and you can wander and breathe, and at night tame street lamps there are none—only the hunter’s fires, and the eyes of lions, and the mysterious stars. In later years it is stifled and gagged—buried deep, a green turf at the head of it, and on its heart a stone; but it lives, it breathes, it lurks, it will up and out when ’tis looked for least. That stockbroker, some brief summers gone, who was missed from his wonted place one settling-day! a goodly portly man, i’ faith: and had a villa and a steam launch at Surbiton: and was versed in the esoteric humours of the House. Who could have thought that the Hunter lay hid in him? Yet, after many weeks, they found him in a wild nook of Hampshire. Ragged, sun-burnt, the nocturnal haystack calling aloud from his frayed and weather-stained duds, his trousers tucked, he was tickling trout with godless native urchins; and when they would have won him to himself with honied whispers of American Rails, he answered but with babble of green fields. He is back in his wonted corner now: quite cured, apparently, and tractable. And yet—let the sun shine too wantonly in Throgmorton Street, let an errant zephyr, quick with the warm South, fan but his cheek too wooingly on his way to the station; and will he not once more snap his chain and away? Ay, truly: and next time he will not be caught.
>>25211546I tried reading it, but I just didn't fuck with it. I think that in the post-modern world we are just so exposed to and used to weird, surreal, esoteric worlds and concepts that it doesn't hit as hard. It does have very cool word play, though, but I think that as an adult it just doesn't have the same punch.
>>25211425Never read this - is it worth it as an adult, just for my own pleasure?>>25211447funny you say that, look at pic related
>>25211425Do you have any title for 12 - 15 y/olds?I need to study (copy) a few
What are some books about really really bad weather?
>>25216705Genesis
>>25216710>Sees dick in the title >Immediately lusts for gay sex
>>25216705
It's ridiculous, are you telling me they really read 100+ books all on this obscure subject???
Not an author but i have three degrees and would have referenced 500+ references in that time and I probably read less than 2% of them. This is surely the standard experience?
>>25217468I assume that sometimes a single chapter from a book is sufficient for their needs. In other cases they are probably aware of the original thought from different source and only need to consult the position in order to reference it. Mostly they are bloating their bibliographies because they don't give a shit and nobody does either, though. Universities deserve scissors cutting through them like almost nothing else.
>>25217468No, of course not. Professional readers know how to get the information they need out of a book without reading it from cover to cover. There's literally nothing wrong with that.
>>25217480Isnt that why Tai Lopez only reads the first page of every chapter and then claims he read the whole book?
So I'm starting with the Greeks. After this I have the Iliad and Odyssey. What next?
>>25216007What about Hesiod?What's the best translation?
>>25217340Lattimore.
>>25217069>democracy only exists if everyone is ethnically homogenous>some people are naturally born as slaves whilst some are naturally born as leaders and you have to allow this for a society to functionSounds super liberal to me.
The Anabasis obviously
>>25217069it's the one in the old start with the greeks chart. Regardless, they say it wasn't truly democratic because women didn't have a say
why are people so resistant towards the idea of a universal metaphysics?
>>25215660>articulating the relation between the Absolute and manifestation in a manner that preserves non-duality without recourse to ambiguous intermediaries, whether by emphasizing the illusory character of separateness or by conceiving manifestation as a direct and non-exteriorized expression of principial unity.How is option A ("illusion") anything other than a more linguistically subtle way of reintroducing duality into the Principle?
>>25216043>How is option A ("illusion") anything other than a more linguistically subtle way of reintroducing duality into the Principle?From a Guénonian standpoint, the objection rests upon a misunderstanding that arises from the inevitable insufficiency of language when it attempts to designate what lies beyond all determination. To say that manifestation is “illusory” is not to posit a second principle alongside the Absolute, nor to introduce a duality at the principial level, but rather to deny to manifestation any independent or self-subsistent reality. The term “illusion” (which corresponds only imperfectly to what traditional doctrines intend) designates a lesser degree of reality, or more precisely, a contingent mode whose entire being is derived and dependent, without in any way affecting the principial order. Thus, the apparent duality between Principle and manifestation exists only from the standpoint of manifestation itself, that is to say within the domain of relativity and limitation; it cannot be transposed into the principial domain without contradiction. The error consists precisely in hypostatizing this relational appearance and attributing to it an ontological value it does not possess. When one speaks of māyā, it must be understood not as a second reality, but as a privative or limiting condition, comparable to a reflection which, while perceptible, has no existence apart from its source. In this sense, non-duality is rigorously preserved, since no real opposition or exteriority is admitted: the Principle is not “related” to anything, nor modified by anything, and what appears as multiplicity is nothing other than the indefinite reflection of principial unity under limiting conditions that do not touch the Principle itself.
>>25216043>>25216100From a strictly Advaitin analytic perspective, the worry that describing the world as “illusory” reintroduces duality can be framed as a concern about whether the theory covertly quantifies over two ontologically distinct domains: the Absolute (Brahman) and illusion (māyā or avidyā). A standard non-dual response is to reject the assumption that “illusion” denotes a second entity or substance. Instead, illusion is treated as a dependent, non-fundamental explanatory posit whose status is epistemic or phenomenological rather than ontologically robust. In contemporary terms, one might say that Advaita endorses a form of ontological monism combined with a layered account of appearance: there is a single fundamental reality, while the multiplicity of objects is accounted for by a theory of misrepresentation or superimposition (adhyāsa). Crucially, this does not introduce a second truth-maker alongside Brahman; rather, it introduces a distinction between levels of description or explanatory frameworks. The “illusion” talk functions as a way of capturing systematic error within cognition, analogous to how one might explain perceptual illusions without positing a second physical world. Thus, the apparent duality arises only at the level of intentional content or conceptual scheme, not at the level of fundamental ontology. The real distinction at stake, then, is between ontological plurality and epistemic plurality: Advaita denies the former while allowing the latter as a necessary feature of finite cognition, thereby preserving strict non-duality without collapsing into incoherence.
>>25210515Your posts are too reasonable and therefore too boring for people to accept.
the english call h20 water, the spanish agua, the french eau, the greeks hydor.... different names pointing towards the same thing... or is it because they have different names that they also point at different things... by Jove!
The Old Testament - The JewsEnneads - PlotinusThe Quran - MuhammadMeccan Revelations - Ibn ArabiThe Zohar - de LeonGate of Reincarnations - LuriaDiscourse on Metaphysics - LeibnizNew Essays on Human Understanding - LeibnizNumerous other works by and about LeibnizPhenomenology of the Spirit - HegelA Season in Hell - RimbaudIlluminations - RimbaudWork by Guenon and Schuon if you have the timeAmadeus the movie not the bookThe works of Dennis PotterComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25214068no u
>>25213805the #1 most important thing to know about God is that He isnt a feminist. 0% of Christian clergy understand that, which is why institutional Christianity is dead. iran is the most Godly country on earth right now
>>25213805The Divine Comedyyou'll learn you can't understand it
>>25213805Fake God understander by not having The Divine Names on this list>>25213841Even if he isn't able to be understood in his totality, we necessarily must have some marginal understanding insofar as we can identify him.
if you want to understand God read wittgenstein's tractatus
How come John Adam’s 7 year old son can write better than half of /lit/?
>>25217788I get insecure and lash out when someone points out my errors, too.
>>25217797>>random capitalizationThat was normal in English at that time
>>25217815your biggest error was ever being born, your second biggest error was deciding to bandy words with me, knave
>>25217820>>25217820>bandy words with me, knave I like the cut of your jib, fella. Excuse my pedantry.
>>25217830
What do you think of it?planet earthPlanet Earth, my home, my placeA capricious anomaly in the sea of spacePlanet Earth, are you justFloating by, a cloud of dustA minor globe about to bustA piece of metal bound to rustA speck of matter in a mindless voidA lonely spaceship, a large asteroidCold as a rock without a hueHeld together with a bit of glueComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Saar ancient elephant pact saaar they cannot lay down saaar
godIt's strange that God doesn't mind expressing Himself/Herself in all the religions of the world, while people still cling to the notion that their way is the only right way. Whatever you try to say about God, someone will take offense, even if you say everyone's love of God is right for them.For me the form God takes is not the most important thing. What's most important is the essence. My songs and dances are outlines for Him to come in and fill. I hold out on the form, She puts in the sweetness.I've looked up at the night sky and beheld the stars so intimately close, it was as if my grandmother had made them for me. "How rich, how sumptuous," I thought. In that moment I saw God in His creation. I could as easily have seen Her in the beauty of a rainbow, the grace of a deer bounding through a meadow, the truth of a father's kiss. But for me the sweetest contact with God has no form. I close my eyes, look within, and enter a deep soft silence. The infinity of God's creation embraces me. We are one.
>>25215585MICHAEL NOOOOO
>>25217505https://variety.com/2025/music/news/michael-jackson-book-excerpt-dan-beck-they-dont-care-about-us-1236557437/On one of those first evenings, I heard a red flag as Michael angrily spat out the words, lyrics that included an antisemitic slur.I told [my boss, Epic Records chairman] Dave [Glew] that somebody needed to speak to Michael and [Michael’s co-manager] Sandy [Gallin]. Sandy argued that Michael spoke as an empathetic voice of the oppressed. “He’s saying stop labeling people, stop degrading people, stop calling them names. The song is about not being prejudiced. To take two lines out of context is unfair.” On Thursday, June 15, one day before the international in-store date and five full days before the U.S. street date, the controversy hit the fan. The New York Times, in an Arts section story under Bernard Weinraub’s byline, led the pack with the headline “In New Lyrics, Jackson Uses Slurs.” The first sentence established the issue: “…includes a song with lyrics that can be interpreted as pointedly critical of Jews.”The controversy was already brewing behind the scenes, as Diane Sawyer had asked about the lyric in her taped interview with Michael and Lisa Marie for ABC News’ “Primetime Live,” which was scheduled to air that night. Sawyer’s spotlight, which sixty million people tuned in to see, gave Michael a national forum to clearly define his intent and lead the discussion with a measured response. Unfortunately, his reply was muddled: “It’s not antisemitic because I’m not a racist person. I could never be a racist. I love all races.” Worse, he fell on the weak and damning defense of “My accountants and lawyers are Jewish. My three best friends are Jewish — David Geffen, Jeffery Katzenberg and Steven Spielberg.”Geffen and Spielberg were mixed in their responses. David offered a supportive perspective: “There’s not one iota of antisemitism in Michael. He’s not a hater of any kind. At worst, sometimes he’s naïve, and I think to the degree that anybody is bothered or offended, he’s genuinely sorry.” But Spielberg was angry and distanced himself from Michael. He had written liner notes for the album but now said, “[Those liner notes, written two years ago] are by no means an endorsement of any new songs that appear on what has now been released as Michael Jackson’s ‘HIStory’ album.”We had three phone calls with Michael regarding the situation, and his answer was repetitive and straight to the point. “This is the media,” he complained. “I would never be racist or antisemitic.” We continued to explain that it wasn’t about him. It was about the people who those words hurt, no matter the context in which they were used.
the boy and the pillowA wise father wanted to teach his young son a lesson. "Here is a pillow covered in silk brocade and stuffed with the rarest goose down in the land," he said. "Go to town and see what it will fetch."First the boy went to the marketplace, where he saw a wealthy feather merchant. "What will you give me for this pillow?" he asked. The merchant narrowed his eyes. "I will give you fifty gold ducats, for I see that this is a rare treasure indeed."The boy thanked him and went on. Next he saw a farmer's wife peddling vegetables by the side of the road. "What will you give me for this pillow?" he asked. She felt it and exclaimed, "How soft it is! I'll give you one piece of silver, for I long to lay my weary head on such a pillow."The boy thanked her and walked on. Finally he saw a young peasant girl washing the steps of a church. "What will you give me for this pillow?" he asked. Looking at him with a strange smile, she replied, "I'll give you a penny, for I can see that your pillow is hard compared to these stones." Without hesitation, the boy laid the pillow at her feet.When he got home, he said to his father, "I have gotten the best price for your pillow." And he held out the penny."What?" his father exclaimed. "That pillow was worth a hundred gold ducats at least.""That's what a wealthy merchant saw," the boy said, "but being greedy, he offered me fifty. I got a better offer than that. A farmer's wife offered me one piece of silver."Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Was he onto something?
>>25217026Kek
>>25216908>how do you know these drooling retards are unintelligent
>>25217655>my opponent is.... le dumb!!!Ad hominem
>>25217677let us not go that far. they can be intelligent or not, the self-evident thing is that they are not sensible readers and will not teach anything to anyone who reads something other than blog posts
Incels don't want sex, they want love. That's a big part of why they don't get sex, there's no love on the table in this shit-hearted society so they aren't motivated to pursue sex.
Is Rorty worth reading?
Tldr: Philosophy is Platonism (and that's bad mkay);<
>>25217111>more likeand Platonism is art (and that's not bad mkay, but it's not the only source of Truth)He's not wrong that Truth is like the concept of God; it exists but we typically do not have direct acquaintance with it. We can speak of justifications for things, which may or may not be True, and they hopefully are, but justifications are always relative to the community we're justifying something towards. When we have sufficient justification we call what we've justified "true", but we do not have direct acquaintance with whether it has some attribute called being "True".We know how to use truth-language, but we don't understand where it comes from outside of providing justifications for the use of the term. His point is that we will never write a "final book", where all "True" statements are defined, thus ending philosophy -- because philosophy is precisely this activity of justifying what we apply the label "true" to. Not that it is any less worthy of attention, but it is not the "queen of the sciences"; one could imagine a world in which metaphysicians are seen more similarly to theologians or mathematicians that foundational-researchers.It's an open question on if Rorty believed any of this at a more deep level -- he had a tremendous respect and love for the philosophical tradition; but he is also, aside from an insightful logician and analytic philosopher, one of the few philosophers honest enough to at least self-criticize the value of recent developments in their field compared to other humanities fields (poetry, literature, high-art, etc).Rorty's inheritors, with some exceptions, generally lacked his intellect but inherited his positions, and failed to do anything with it Start with Philosophy and the Image of Nature if you actually want to understand how Rorty pushed philosophy forward. His other books should come after.
>>25217741*Philosophy and the Mirror of Nature
Did he cure your social anxiety?
>>25217564why no. not at all. quite the opposite really.
>>25217564Not a fag. So no need of a (((cure)))
>>25217587How so?>>25217589*absolved
>>25217574Your judgement about me is fundamentally flawed due to lack if knowledge btw
Forgot to post another picture of cut throat. Not sure why they call him that.
>he doesn't read the prefaceI like reading the pathos of some sperg about their special interest
>>25215350>preface spoils the plot
>>25215350My preface to the divine comedy yammers about how Dante’s views on homosexuality are outdated, and my preface of don Quixote spoils a major plot point later in the story. My tax dollars somehow paid for these university academics to bitch and moan, no thanks.
>>25217637Plotfag bought a dumb edition and now hates roads, many such cases.
>>25217637>Buying any edition past the year 2000 Anno DominiISHIGGYDIGGY
>>25217593>listening to audiobook >narrator explains he will save the introduction for after the main text so as to not spoil it>it's Aristotle's Poetics
Nigga be like acting like a judgemental moral cunt to a whore after merking an innocent woman.
>>25214731I think he had his shit sorted out by the end
>>25214731He saved people, ran into a burning building, had a great desire to be a "great human being", and only when deluded with sickness killed his landlord who was objectively a piece of shit deserving nothing less.
I AM ONCE AGAIN SHOUTING INTO THE ABYSS TO TELL PEOPLE TO READ ANDREI BELY
>>25216365I have anon, and he’s brilliant, the best Russia has to offer>In the lacquered house the storms of life took their course quietly; nevertheless the storms of life here took their course calamitously: they did not thunder with events; they did not shine a cleansing light into the inhabitants’ hearts with arrows of lightning; but from a hoarse throat they wrung the air in a torrent of poisonous fluids; and in the consciousness of the inhabitants cerebral games swirled round, like dense gases in hermetically sealed jars.Wish I could read Russian though, I’m gonna learn it just to read this… at some point.
>>25211990>dostoyebsky>whores and fuckingCount me in fuckers. I'm reading this right fucking now
You know I'm no art critic, but I know what I hate.And I don't hate this.
>>25217701Ok Norman
Every time I get around to actually reading some famous author, I immediately realize that 99% of what I've heard about him is meme shit from people who never actually read him. I've been reading Gibbon, I'm about halfway through volume one (of three in my edition), and despite a decade of hearing "Gibbon's thesis is that Christianity caused Rome's decline" from BOTH online retards and Classics professors, that is very obviously not his thesis. Maybe he really goes ham on Christianity once he gets to Constantine and the Christian emperors (I'm just getting there), but even if he does, the first 300 pages are a sophisticated structural account of Rome's decline, with several interrelated substructures. He's fascinating from a historiographical and intellectual-historical standpoint, because he's clearly drawing on things like Montesquieu (explicitly), French Enlightenment "philosophical history" (Voltaire, Mably), and Scottish Enlightenment sociology, and synthesizing them with late Renaissance and Early Modern methodological innovations, like Tillemont and others in the ecclesiastical history tradition. His Englishness also constantly shines through, to the point that you almost feel you're reading Burke whenever he talks about political philosophy or political economy. What is interesting about Gibbon doesn't seem to me to be anything close to "Christianity bad, Enlightenment good," although as I said I haven't gotten to the Christian emperors yet. It's that he's writing a historical account of independent but dialectically related causal nexuses. The latter are the protagonists of the narrative, not nations or individuals, judged against static a priori criteria as in Voltaire and still somewhat in Hume. Historical causation emerges on its own terms, with multiple structures interacting and causing mutations, even when Gibbon still has Enlightenment/anticlerical priors like Hume or (most schematically) Voltaire, which is a genuine advance in historical method. His coverage of Christianity FITS INTO this style of writing, it's one causal nexus among others. Now I finally understand his importance for the emergence of the field, and I find it amazing that he's roughly contemporary with the Gottingen school. Worse, whenever you actually read something like this you realize that all the "things people always mention/cite/say" are from the first 50 fucking pages of the first volume. I'm never trusting anything anyone says again. I'm only reading primary sources. I will attack anyone who tries to summarize a text or an author to me.
>>25211493>you will be shocked at how much you've been lied to about modern physicsJust look at quantum physics/mechanics.
>>25208061>But then suppose you read what the guy actually wrote:>>"Beneath the rule of men entirely great, the pen is mightier than the sword."You have no idea how bad it gets.>the blood of the covenant is thicker than water of the womb>it is better to be a master of all trades than master of one>curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought him backso many proverbs are edited to mean the opposite of what they originally mean. Specifically to demonize anything that isn't filial piety, obedience, and curiosity. They want you to obey, obey, obey and do not question it.
>>25208027He's alright but I'd place Collingwood above him.
>>25212694I'm usually in the /hislit/ thread most of the time
>>25208061One of my least favorite platitudes that people use incorrectly is "a few bad apples." The whole phrase is "A few bad apples spoils the bunch." The idea is you must ruthlessly weed out corruption and bad actors to prevent the corruption from spreading and contaminating the entire organization. Instead most people just use it as an excuse to sweep bad behavior under the rug.