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I can't believe I didn't see it before. What defines a gay man is his narcissism and narcissists are known to pigeonhole i.e. they the world as the essences that they learned in childhood.

They never move on from the fantastical world of essences and always desire what made an impression on them as kids. They see new people as only like people from the past. They can't see you or anything as what it is.

The more narcissistic the person the more blind and few are more narcissistic than gay men.

Plato is a hack.

When Nietzsche and Heidegger criticize metaphysics - this is what they mean. They are based on the fantastical and they box you into only seeing what you want to see.
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>>23325100
The connection with Plato is there through Schopenhauer.
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>>23324941
>The role of trannies is sex
And being code monkeys. All lot of them are into compsci.
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>>23322598
>theory of forms

LOOK lel up the etymologies of EIDOS and APODEXIS. It's not as eggheads would have it appear. It is about establishing certainty against sophistry, skepticism, base empircism et. al. Once you do that you can Oblige the unwilling (and un-Thinking).
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>>23325610
There is no reason. All these philosophers that follow the Platonic tradition are obsessed with finding a reason for things when there is none.

Things are the way the are because of immoral moralizers that sought to oppress the people. Jesus, Confucius, Buddha all had the interest of a small group of people and used their philosophies as violence against those people.

Jesus was a Jew and Confucius and Buddha were upper class aristocrats. It was in all their interest to poison the people with morality.

Nietzsche gets this spot on.
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>>23325683
>Jesus, Confucius, Buddha all had the interest of a small group of people and used their philosophies as violence against the other.

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Does anyone else have "Book-Wear Anxiety"?

When I buy a brand new paperback, I'm often times so awed by it's beauty (The crisp page edges, the smooth spine, the unblemished cover) that I get legit anxiety around handling the book and creasing the spine and knowing my thumbs will eventually stain the edges of the pages where I hold them. Sometimes it's so bad that I can't even bring myself to read the book until I've washed my hands and even then I only open the book as little as possible for me to read.

I know that a "pristine book is an unread book", but still, it bothers me and I don't know how to overcome these feelings.
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>>23323881
I know
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>>23323570
>One handed cover bend holder

Disgusting
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>>23323828
That's just as neurotic as OP
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>>23322452
I am absolutely like this, especially with the Bible, but in the case of the Bible I have a special case for it. My English teacher when I was young always told me that a book all marked up with bent corners is a book that's been loved, but in my eyes to do these things would be the opposite. It definitely is not true, because the value of the book is in the words not the physical book itself
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>>23322497
Lol

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>Idealism cannot refute Dogmatism. True, the former system has the advantage, as we have already said, of being enabled to point out its explanatory ground of all experience—the free acting intelligence—as a fact of consciousness. This fact the dogmatist must also admit, for otherwise he would render himself incapable of maintaining the argument with his opponent; but he at the same time by a correct conclusion from his principle, changes this explanatory ground into a deception and appearance, and thus renders it incapable of being the explanatory ground of anything else since it cannot maintain its own existence in its own philosophy. According to the Dogmatist, all phenomena of our consciousness are productions of a Thing in itself, even our pretended determinations by freedom, and the belief that we are free. This belief is produced by the effect of the Thing upon ourselves, and the determinations, which we deduced from freedom, are also produced by it. The only difference is, that we are not aware of it in these cases, and hence ascribe it to no cause, i.e. to our freedom. Every logical dogmatist is necessarily a Fatalist; he does not deny the fact of consciousness, that we consider ourselves free—for this would be against reason;—but he proves from his principle that this is a false view. He denies the independence of the Ego, which is the basis of the Idealist, in toto, makes it merely a production of the Thing, an accidence of the World; and hence the logical dogmatist is necessarily also materialist. He can only be refuted from the postulate of the freedom and independence of the Ego; but this is precisely what he denies. Neither can the dogmatist refute the Idealist.
-1st intro to Wissenschaftlehre
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>>23325580
Mmmmmm, delicious originations of contemporaneously common philosophical ideas. sluuuuuurrp

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What, no shelf thread? This is the one in my bedroom.
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>>23319247
>still malding that Sanderson and Sanderchads won
I LOVE ALL SANDERSISTERS ITT
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>>23323981
Take out Harry Potter and the cursed child and this is by far the best shelf posted.
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>>23325501
A spare copy in case I get mad and tear up the Perrin chapters.
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The ones that get the most use for me are the I Spy's. A couple of these books I haven't read, I just grabbed them off the sidewalk. But most are my favorites
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Are library of america books any good?

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Do you guys ever read old school magazines?
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>>23322141
I buy the collections of old horror comics from the 50s and 60s. Tales from The Crypt, Vault of Horror, Creepy, Eerie.
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Sometimes I pull up old sci fi literary magazines from the 30s, 40s and 50s on archive.org. Astounding is one of my favorites
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>>23324472
No, but she sounds great
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>>23324485
I was thinking of adding some vintage porn mags to my book shelf, they do make great gifts tho.
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>>23324512
The GOAT Asian American pornstar.

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/lit/ has produced multiple collaborative projects and periodicals over the years. Many of these projects are now defunct, and the few that are still active seem to have uncertain trajectories. There are also solo writers who frequent /lit/ and—for better or for worse—their namefagging and shilling has impacted the culture of this board.

This thread is for the discussion of the history of /lit/ writing and the future of /lit/. To those that have been involved in previous /lit/ collaborative projects, such as The Lit Quarterly, Pinecone, The April Review, miniMAG and &amp: what were your experiences like? Does the drama and infighting surrounding so many of these /lit/ collaborative projects inevitably result in their dissolution? Do you think that /lit/ has anything valuable to offer for aspiring writers, in terms of critique or support?

Additionally: Are there any new projects in the works? What do you think is next for the so-called /lit/ renaissance? And now that a /lit/ author has finally gotten a mainstream book deal with a major publishing house, do you think that more of our authors are likely to see similar success?

Mega archive of /lit/ periodicals:
mega.nz/folder/2gsHSSbA#Sl46P4LljGlk9mnpAf3Mlw
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>>23324241
Who are you parodying this time around?
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>>23325099
Just my own story under my regular penname. I do have a special alternate piece of media cooking I hope you guys will like.
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>>23324408
No, &amp already reprinted Farmer's parody of the seething pseud. On another topic, stop making these spam threads already. Wasn't the last one getting deleted by the jannies enough of a hint for you?
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>>23325671
it's either some discord fag wannabe writer reposting these threads so he can use them to shill, or a dramafag trying to start shit for fun. either way I'm sick of seeing this shit desu
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>>23325699
sure wish the jannies would ban the fag after deleting the thread. that'll get rid of them for a while

>At age 18, he went on a whaling voyage for about 18 months.
>At age 22, he jumped ship in the Marquesas Islands and lived among the natives for a short period before being captured by a tribe. He was later rescued by a passing whaler.
>At age 27, in 1846, he was able to purchase a farmhouse in Pittsfield, Massachusetts, and dedicate himself to writing.
>At age 31, he published "Moby-Dick."

That's quite a, dare I say it, based early life section.
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>>23323933
What is the problem? I really don't see what you all are getting at anymore. Isn't danger and chance what you want? If train hopping is tourism then whaling is just a job.

>>23323994
Actually I would make it, I just know that none of you little bitches would

>>23324017
>life is basically the same. You’re just kind of existing and waiting to die
And that has always been the case, for those who choose to see it that way. Maybe the modern world is sick, if it has produced so many disgustingly passive and pathetic people. You dumb fuckers would have lived and died on the family farm. And even if that sounds preferable to you than whatever you have now, it's still not an adventure. Adventure stories were popular because they described something exotic and alluring.

>>23324057
To a fucking retard maybe
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>>23318625
>tfw 35
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>>23318544
I guess I can see how you see that, but I just find him way too good a writer, too honest, sincere, and eccentric in his beliefs, as well as well-read and well-spoken, to see him as a possible fed or compromised intelligence asset. It’s just the sheer love of beauty of language, of the arts, poetry, and culture generally, as well as a love of thought/philosophy and its history, as well as sharing details of his search for spiritual truth and the wisdom he brought back from it in an entirely way-too-detailed, knowledgeable, and sincere a way for it just to be a lark. It just feels impractical that a federal agent/psyop would spend that much time and effort on this, or that one who spoke and wrote seriously and sincerely on such topics would agree to work as a federal agent putting out (possible) psy-op literature.

The same reason I can’t quite believe conspiracy theories like, say, about Frank Zappa being a CIA agent, or compromised by intelligence agencies/military somehow, because his father was in the defense industry and worked on chemical warfare at Edgewood Arsenal for the U.S. Army. It’s an intriguing fact, sure, but I don’t see how someone composes and releases a 21-minute instrumental that’s a fantastic piece of jazz-fusion like “Big Swifty” at the behest of an intelligence agency or the military-industrial complex.

The Order of Nine Angles, though, yes, I’ve heard of them, and wouldn’t be surprised if they were indeed some military/intelligence-agency project gone awry (or perhaps it went exactly right and as intended) of running a cult, brainwashing its members, and using the cult to entrap people in a roundabout way; or, at minimum, even if it didn’t start like that and was sincerely founded based on the O9A’s beliefs, was later infiltrated and then compromised by such possible feds.

>>23320453
I see how you feel, I still think Bey/Lamborn Wilson is a really interesting thinker and writer who lived an interesting life, but I see how it can be taken as different for its focus on “spiritual journey”-stuff from facts like these writers going on whaling cruises as manual laborers, working as journalists in different countries, including in wars as well as by serving and fighting in such wars, etc.

You might be somewhat right, but it also may be a matter of complex societal/civilizational and historical forces. Wars like World War I and II involved most EVERYBODY of such and such major fighters/players in them. Hence why they are historically credited with being some of the first modern and most well-known, influential “total wars” — where the lines between civilians and combatants is blurred or erased, and where even all/close-to-all citizens are affected by it directly (e.g. as with rationing in wartime countries and Great Britain’s experience of civilians in their towns being attacked by fighter jets and firebombed/rockets rained down on by Germany).
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>>23325081
its not about danger and chance its about an actual adventure
Theres no real option to not just exist and wait to die. Like what else are you supposed to do? I dont see traveling the world and eating food as something significantly better than just staying inside all day. I just dont. I dont see it as an adventure. I dont see going camping in the woods as something significantly better either. Its just past times. You are just waiting around to die. Its not really that meaningful to me.
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>>23320453
>>23325570
(Continued)
Today, the major wars of the West have been the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars (besides auxiliary pseudo-wars of the War on Terror, on/in nations war wasn’t officially declared like Syria, Libya, Yemen, etc., with things like drone-strikes, use of special forces, and possible U.S.-backed coups or meddling with the government of such nations). But the thing about this is it didn’t DIRECTLY seem to involve as many citizens in it, having all or more of them with the chance to see/experience different stuff. They didn’t even institute an overt, legally-punishable draft after 9/11 like with the Vietnam War (maybe precisely because they WERE afraid of such an incident like the Vietnam War with massive anti-war protests across campuses and the country and draft-dodgers). They mobilized what troops they had, and put out good P.R. (public relations)/propaganda to encourage what healthy youth they could to enlist in the military and fight in this wars out of patriotism (besides what other incentives they might get as fulfilling the desire for revenge, glory among one’s compatriots, and financial incentives of joining the military).

So such big events self-selected for those already drawn to the military, and that might be a different cross-section of the general population than that of “great writers who lived extremely interesting lives” that we’re selecting for here.

It’s also a matter of perspective and the relativity of what we find interesting or not. In the upcoming years/decades, we’ll have (and already have, however young they are) people born without ever having witnessed or consciously lived through 9/11 and the COVID pandemic. Maybe to them, WE’LL be the ones with fascinating lives for having gone through such tremendous (or at least tremendously influential on the world) events.

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>short banal statement
>short banal statement
>and and and and and (x50)
>obscure architectural term
>short banal statement
So this is the best writing Americans have to offer, huh?
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>>23324925
Yes, it is. Wanna fight about it? and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and buttress
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>>23324925
I thought you were describing euro writing. Realism and autofiction read like that.

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Post and Discuss Books about history, all eras and locations welcomed
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>>23272053
History of the French Revolutionary wars but focusing on stories surrounding the Eagle standards of his armies. Nothing impressive, lacks sources but definitely good for getting someone into Napoleonic history. Something to give to a kid to read.
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>>23324531
I will read it. thanks, anon.
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>>23324449
I've read Pirate Enlightenment, or the Real Libertalia by David Graeber and quite liked it, he does do a good job trying to express how pirate communities around Madagascar would've lived alongside native Malagasy even with a lack of direct evidence.
Although I feel like he didn't get a chance to edit it properly before his death just because it doesn't read very well, sometimes it's just a dump of scattered ethnological accounts that don't come together.
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>>23325492
thanks. I hadn’t heard of this one before.
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>>23325533
It's a fun book, but like I said published over two years after his death so it feels incomplete, it isn't very long at least so it's worth checking out.
I think he was some kind of Madagascar autist who lived there for a while and learnt a lot about the local people and history.
I also think David Grann is very good and a lot like David Graeber.

Is Take A Hint, Danny Brown any good?
Is Talia Hibbert a good writer?
Discuss.
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>>23325372
Doubt it.

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>The Christian doctrine that man is by nature evil is loftier than the opposite that he is naturally good, and is to be interpreted philosophically in this way. Man as spirit is a free being, who need not give way to impulse. Hence in his direct and unformed condition, man is in a situation in which he ought not to be, and he must free himself. This is the meaning of the doctrine of original sin, without which Christianity would not be the religion of freedom.
-Philosophy of Right section 18

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Books to understand this mindset?
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>>23325469
Shvt the fvck vp swarthoid.
An Aryvn is talking... Listen and levrn..
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>>23325469

The Roman Empire was the only polity in world history to conquer the entire coastline of the Mediterranean sea. That's nothing to sneeze at. Like all organizations founded in Italy (the Catholic Church, Cosa Nostra, the Italian Communist Party, Mussolini's fascists, the Red Brigade, and so forth), the Roman Empire was simply an early entry in a long line of evil organizations. The Italians have a special talent for evil, far above the Germans. Even so, the Roman Empire's achievements were as obvious as they were significant.
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>>23325469
Any book on the decline of Classics in the curriculum. Very interesting to see a Spenglerite absolutely reject Roman culture when Spengler documents the debt of German Faustian culture to the foreign Roman residuum.
Anyone who rejects the Classics does not merit your attention.

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>Mere Christianity - C. S. Lewis
>Introduction to Christianity - Pope Benedict XVI
>The Confessions of St. Augustine
>St. Thomas Aquinas - G.K. Chesterton
>Orthodoxy - G.K. Chesterton
>The Everlasting Man - G.K. Chesterton
>A Shorter Summa The Essential Philosophical Passages of Saint Thomas Aquinas Summa Theologica - Peter J. Kreeft
>Catechism of the Summa Theologi - Thomas Aquinas
>Catholic Catechism of Saint Piu - Pope St. Pius X
>Early Christian Writings The Apostolic Fathers - Andrew Louth
>History of the Christian Church (Complete Eight Volumes In One) - Philip Schaff
>Ignatius Catholic Study Bible New Testament RSV 2nd Edition
>The Faith of Our Fathers - James Cardinal Gibbons
>The Spirit of Catholicism - Karl Adam Robert A. Krieg
>The Complete Ante-Nicene & Nicene and Post-Nicene Church Fathers Collection

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>>23322227
Based.
>>23322253
Jones is not a Sedevacantist, if they were to collab Dimond will most likely start an autistic discussion against him for not being a Sede.
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>>23324451
Read the Carmelites anon.
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>>23324587
Saying Nietzsche's writings should be avoided as a blanket statement will just make them pique more curiosity and subconsciously feel like they're some kind of intellectually unstoppable thing that needs to be cowered in fear from, which they obviously aren't.
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>>23322481
Homosexuals as individuals if they are seeking God, yes. Not the couples. They were explicit to not bless the actual unions.
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>>23322531
Based, unironically

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What's the worst book you have ever read? For me, it's Blood Meridian. Makes me nauseous just remembering that prose...
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>>23324381
Wow, your dad has good taste.
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>>23324361
There is absolutely nothing wrong with pic, and in its context it works beautifully.

>you know deep down that McCarthy is a shit writer
>LOL
You have about as much self-awareness as Cullen or one of the nameless in Glanton's gang. Deep down you know you're a brainlet.
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>>23324382
If you even have to ask, I feel sorry for you.
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>>23324361
Ok, that's some wooden dialogue.
How does the plot compare to, say Justine By de Sade?
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>>23324117
If you think that is bad... Just wait until you read something by Henry James he has the worst prose ever put to paper. It's like he sat down and asked himself "Whats the most tedious way I could possibly write this scene?" and then did it.

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>>23325349
Your suspicions are not fact, anon.
This is what I hate about modern society, some retard like you gets a brain fart and demands everyone treat it as fact. I hate you. I wish nuclear holocaust would fucking come already.
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>>23325356
>>23325362
Yes, he did. What is so hard about this?
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>>23325381
>source your ass
You are everything wrong with the world.
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>>23325408
Source: his life and own writings. Are you saying Goethe wasn't a continual womanizer and restless romantic?
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>>23325422
Can you point to where in his life he ever got a girl pregnant and left her or when he got between some husband and wife couple? Or when he simply moved on after bring told no? You are such a piece of shit bitch.


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