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I love reading Captivating History books, more enjoyable than real history books imo
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I like Sally Rooney novels.
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James Rollins's Sigma Force series. It's like Dan Brown with testosterone.
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>>25331331
I've looked at them but never gotten one. Sell me on them.
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post modern, especially pynchon
anything pynchon I will read again and again
luv' me pinecone

He said pleasure is the true good but he also said the chief pleasures in life are love and freedom, and that sensual indulgence actually undermines freedom because it makes us addicted, dependent and physically enfeebled
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>>25324431
>judaic
All the dogmatic religions, anon. Especially CHRISTIANS

>>25331523
Nope. Popular myth, but pull out the books of Epicurus so we can... Oh. They're all gone are they? I guess you have nothing to go on.
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>>25331523
Lucretius did, not Epicurus.
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>>25331906
>>25331977
>ackshaully Epicurus agreed with the Stoic/Aristotelian cosmology instead
Holy cope.
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>>25326936
>I cannot believe it's 2026 and people still believe that something actually happens
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>>25332270
This needs a "Nothing Ever Chungus" edit

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Daily reminder that "akrasia" or "weakness of will" (the idea that one can do something one "knows" to be wrong in any significant sense) is not real, and that every single argument to the contrary can be proven to either be circular or rest on a surreptitious equivocation of terms.
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>>25327949
Sounds like nietzche to me.
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>>25331976
could be. my understanding is that nishitani is nietzsche inspired, not sure about nishida
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>>25327949
>>25331965
>>25328664
so if I doodoo in my hand and smear the feces on a painting, and I know it's wrong, it's not real?
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>>25332037
It's not like you were struggling to do the right thing, but lacked the will to steady the ship. It sounds like it was harder to smear the painting than not to smear the painting. And if strength of will is the thing to be valued here, then we ought to shower you with applause for such an accomplishment.
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>>25332254
this sounds more retarded than I am. At what point do you look at awful behavior and say "that's wrong" no matter what the person's will is willing?

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Was Goethe a pseud? Reading Faust felt like watching one of those retarded pretentious arthouse films.
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>>25329777
i didn't like it either. all the characters are dialed up to ten the whole time (at least as far as i read). i can't remain excited about a story that tries to maintain such dramatic tone without respite
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>>25330098
I’ve read Dante in German
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goethe is a very roundabout guy
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>>25330098
this made me chuckle
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I don’t know the language but I get the feeling German verse is particularly awful in translation.

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Fun thread.

Grushenka: this salty girl has set up shop in the corner of my porch for the last five weeks. I love her; she is an amazing specimen of nature. I have to keep my dogs away from her zone and they can’t be out without me there, but she’s worth it.
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>>25331677
What characters are they and from what books?
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>>25331684
Shit, I dunno nigguh. Probably none. Who gives a fuck? I do occasionally call Simon "Simon Peter" though if that makes you feel any better.
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>>25331686
Enjoy your life
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>>25331692
I will, thanks. :)
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I refer to most of my coworkers by the name of HP Lovecraft’s cat.

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Which way western man?
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>>25329425
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv-5mZ_9CPY
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>>25330432
Those connections have not subjectivity because they don't need it to function. Subjectivity only really develope when organisms need it
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>>25322473
Shrodinger's Goal Post
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>>25331793
>you have to accept that minesweeper also can bear conciousness.
i think if you're running a brain emulation on minesweeper (mindsweeper?) for some godforsaken reason then yes, the brain emulation is conscious
substrate independence is a very standard claim of functionalism and functionalists are not bothered at all by making it, see dennett's response to searle on the chinese room
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>>25331804
How do you know either of those claims? Maybe those networks do have a form of subjectivity. Maybe subjectivity develops incidentally when a certain level of complexity is formed. I would simply say there is a lot we don't know about consciousness, subjectivity, and the criteria necessary for those things to arise.

What are some well-written books with a gay male lead? I don't need them to have sex, but it would be a plus.
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>>25327784
Swipe right for murder
Moby dick
Although I wouldn't call either well written
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>>25327784
The City and the Pillar by Gore Vidal
Maurice by E. M. Forster
The David Blaize series by E. F. Benson
Reflections in a Golden Eye by Carson McCullers
There's The Great Mirror of Male Love by Ihara Saikaku, but I'm iffy on recommending because most of the stories are about le doomed loved or pedophilia, just like any average gay work.
There was a very large chart, but I don't have it at the moment.
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>>25328364
Dont actually recommend this. Its fluff for women and bisexuals.
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>>25330056
>Maurice by E. M. Forster
i found this book really boring the first time i read it. should i give it another try?
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>>25330158
Not really, watch the movie instead.
Forster is mid writer, the only interesting thing about it is that it has a happy ending. I think is because the first two thirds are based on Forster romance with another writer who rejected him and the other third is his literal fantasy, so at that point the plot just moves as quickly as possible.

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What did I think of it?
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Only God can know

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>"All men are susceptible to old age, sickness, and death!"
>*snickers*
>"W-who is that?!"
>Bryan Johnson, most biologically measured man in history walks in the room
>"Actually, aging, illness and death are a consequence of our body's inability to reproduce cells at a constant rate due to accumulated inflammation. This inflammation is directly caused by our environment and lifestyle, as we don't see the long term harm in consuming even mildly pro-inflammatory liquid and solid nutrients, disregard proper rest and opt for a stressful living, all under the excuse that the failure of the body is inevitable, so might as well leverage it "better" life quality through pursuance of purposeless (in terms of enhancing life) material goods. Indeed, suffering, old age, and death might have been inevitable in the time of teacher Gautama, but in the post-scarcity society towards which we are moving towards, there is no reason our lifespan should have a cap, if aging is a function of cellular inflammation, as I have demonstrated myself, now aging at a rate slower than a teenager."
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>>25330639
Because having no soul to begin with is a prerequisite to pursuing hyper life extension
These people never had the joyful innocence of a child to begin with. They are soulless husks that see life in actuarial terms
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>>25331212
There is a book by Benatar
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>>25330874
there are all kinds of caes like this. there was the guy (an influential blogger/author) who insisted that butter was super healthful and then died of heart attack or something similar. there was the guy that believed in starvation and starved himself for years in order to ekt out a few more years of life, and he also died early from some maybe unrelated disease. you can try to cheat death but it's never anything more than a gamble. make peace with death and enjoy the life you have now.
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>>25324256
>"Actually, aging, illness and death are a consequence of our body's inability to reproduce cells at a constant rate due to accumulated inflammation...
I don't think that the inability of constant cell repeoduction can prevent someone from dying in a car accident, or being eaten alive, or even falling and breaking your neck.
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This guy is not a philosopher he's just a grifter selling products while marketing his vanity as science.
>b-b-but he's a billionaire already!
woah never have I ever heard of a billionaire wanting more money

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This book sucked shit and anyone that claims they liked it is a midwit and a poseur. You're better off reading a YA novel because at least you'll get a comprehensible story out of it.
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>>25330027
2018
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>>25328703
It’s wading through an ocean of shit in literary form. Or what it would be like at least. All of the pointless characters are nothing more than effigies of fecal matter.
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>>25329071
Yeah dude globohomo hates le quirky sex-and-poop prose comics and lurid descriptions of sex with twelve-year-olds. That‘ll show 'em.
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>>25332029
lmao read the book nigger

What's the best Nordic novel
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>>25331304
>>25331396
I'm Swedish so I've only read our shit but some of my favourites are:
Doktor Glas - About a autistic virgin doctor in Stockholm and how he becomes obsessed with one of his patients.
Röde Orm/The Longships - Viking story that follow Orm on his journey to Byzantium, back home and then to the east.
Kejsarn av Portugallien - A story about a farmers unconditional love for his daughter. Don't know how well this works when translated tho, it's written in a very specific dialect of Swedish (kinda like how Kidnapped by Robert Louis Stevenson is written in Scottish dialect.)

More modern shit I think Lars Wilderäng has some decent books. All his character behave like massive autists and the dialogue is horrible but if you like military fiction it's pretty good.
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>>25331304
i've only read hunger by hamsun and comet in moominland
i liked the latter more
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>>25331304
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>>25331304
The Moomins
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>>25331304
Alastalon Salissa, by the finnish equivalent of Joyce, Volter Kilpi. It's basically untranslatable to english and I bet that none of you autists are autistic enough to learn finnish well enough to be able to catch the delicate nuances of Kilpi's wordplay. It's a great book tho and probably the best Nordic novel to ever exist

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The more philosophy I read the more sense it makes to claim cinema is not art. It's technology. Literature possesses the copula that connects one representation to another. The sequentiality of film lacks this. The director's subjectivity cannot attach conditions to an editing cut. It is the heart of the viewing public that establishes continuity between shots.

Film is technology precisely because of its failure to operate as a self-contained and self-referential medium. In the sense that it opens a space of contact for humanity to think of its relationship to technology and nature as a recompense of sorts for its inability to secure a hermeneutic contract with the viewer. All cinematic production is inherently impersonal.
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>>25329088
Ebert's spinning in his grave
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>>25329088
You're wrong and I will fight you to the death about it.
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>>25331496
Ebert sure talked a lot of shit while he was alive. Let him spin.
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>>25329088
switch philosophy with poetry and your comment goes from 105 IQ to at least 120
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>>25331045
"what is art" is a question only gamers ask because they're the only ones who never seem to encounter art kek

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Should we have these for books? It would be funny if women's "literature" suddenly had an "Adults Only" mark square in the corner.
>inb4 muh censorship
you can write whatever you want but for retail it has to indicate the type of content within.
>inb4 im moralfagging
my stories are all comfortable AO as well. and I wouldnt mind the label.
I guess the real problem is retailers not wanting to sell AO products... but there's still Adult Bookstores.
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>>25327683
i read Fourth Wing, and desu the bad writing is way worse for teens than the smut
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Censorship is already getting worse every year in all regards.
I am against anything that will make it worse.
This will make censorship worse because it will make it so that most old books will be retroactively restricted and new books featuring subject matter that have been in books for hundreds of years won't get published or even allowed on the most common self publishing platforms because of "sensitive content".
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CEET MARP lol!!!
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>>25330462
i believe it, romance/fantasy tends to be way more infantilizing than smut
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>>25327740
content rated 18+ is often seen as a pseudo rite of passage, all they're looking for is material to validate their impending sense of adulthood

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What do these three books have in common?
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>>25329802
Mainlander is just a meme, his work isn't actually that depressing
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>>25329646
Covers are all in black in white
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they all would blow up on TikTok
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>>25329646
They all haven't been read by anyone on /lit/
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>>25329646
(You) haven't read any of them

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My gf dumped me. One week later, she posted a photo on ig showing herself on an apartment balcony. Her new bf has probably fucked her.

I'm sure she's having fun while I'm barely managing my life.

I'm looking for books about women's nature. I don't wanna get betrayed again. What books should I read?
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>wife makes me dinner
>tolerates my autistic babbling about The Blob trivia
>says okay when I ask to jerk off on her ass, eventually lifting it up to mount her and we fuck
Women are bretty cool desu
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>>25331168
>can we chill out on the woman hate for ten seconds
no
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>>25330952
Do you have a job that is not minimum wage or NEETbux?
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>>25331310
How do you have sex immediately after cumming?
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>Currently TEN threads in the catalog of the literature board dedicated to bitching about women
I really wish you guys would just kill yourselves.


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