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I have read Essays on Analytical Psychology and Modern Man in Search of a Soul, now I need recommendations: Which other Jung works should I read next/which are essential to understand the philosophy, and which authors/works influenced by or influencing Jung are essential to read next?
Please help I am in desperate need of existential meaning.
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>>25083738
Ok, name the things you gained reading him.
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>>25087246
An understanding of my own personal psychology, guidance through my individuation crisis, a greater awareness of projection in myself and others, insights into religion, history and art, a framework for interpreting dreams, and a complete, concise explanation of romantic love, among other human interactions.
I guess you missed that stuff, huh?.
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>>25080625
Im suprised nobody has mentioned Steiner at all? No one else has come this close to matching Jungs body of work in bridging the gap between metaphysics and psychology. Heres his entire archive: https://rsarchive.org/
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all psychology and psychoanalyst bullshit is projection from that specific person and nothing else.
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>>25089321
Jung literally pointed this out. He preempted your limited mind.

—Ulysses! that whole business again, well it's not true it's bullshit I did not read it I'm telling you I did not read the damn thing I did not . . . In that cramped interval between his fingers' faltering insistence and the floor's mute expectancy, the cylindrical burden already half‑forgotten as an object and remembered only as the fleeting damp it had impressed upon his palm described its reluctant descent, a kind of minor abdication enacted with all the misplaced ceremony of something that had never belonged to his grasp in the first place. —Oh hi Anon.
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>>25085659
jr is the deconstruckted club of books (true story)
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—Don’t move don’t talk outta time don’t think don’t worry everything’s just fine just fine don’t grab don’t clutch don’t hope for too much don’t breathe don’t achieve don’t grieve without leave don’t check just balance on the fence don’t answer don’t ask don’t try and make sense don’t whisper don’t talk don’t run if you can walk don’t cheat, compete don’t miss the one beat don’t travel by train don’t eat don’t spill don’t piss in the drain don’t make a will don’t fill out any forms don’t compensate don’t cower don’t crawl don’t come around late don’t hover at the gate dom’t take it on board don’t fall on your sword just play another chord if you feel you're getting bored. . . .

—I feel numb . . .

—Don't change your brand don’t listen to the band don’t gape don’t ape don’t change your shape have another grape . . . don’t plead don’t bridle don’t shackle don’t grind don’t curve don’t swerve, lie, die, serve . . . don’t theorize, realize, polarize, chance, dance, dismiss, apologize. . . .

—I feel numb. . .

—Don’t spy don’t lie don’t try, imply, detain, explain, start again . . . don’t triumph don’t coax don’t cling don’t hoax don’t freak, peak, don’t leak don’t speak . . . don’t struggle don’t jerk don’t collar don’t work don’t wish don’t fish don’t teach don’t reach don’t borrow don’t break don’t fence don’t steal don’t pass don’t press don’t try don’t feel don’t touch don’t dive don’t suffer don’t rhyme don’t fantasize don’t rise don’t lie. . . .

—I feel numb . . .

—Don’t project don’t connect, protect, don’t expect, suggest. . . .
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Why is this thread still alive?
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>>25089660
Why are you still alive?
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>>25089664
Cowardice, mostly.

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Which country has produced the better literature? Which has the better spoken Spanish? Do you prefer tú or vos?
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>>25089109
normally call it under 17s
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>>25089454
That all sounds good. American food sucks…think I’ll hit up a taco truck later
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>>25087607
Jews wrote the bible its not even a competition.
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>>25089531
>Jews wrote the bible its not even a competition.
*sephardic jews
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>>25089454
asado, tequila, horchata

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The "romance" just involves a psychotic killer imprison a woman and reversing her self-imposed sterilization, because she doesn't want kids, in order to forcibly impregnate her by raping her day-in and day-out.

But the top review on GoodReads says this

>Alchemised is a literary masterpiece. Where do I even begin? I could honestly write an entire essay about this story, but I’ll write as much as I can till I reach the word limit on Goodreads.

>My heart and soul belong to Helena Marino and Kaine Ferron [the guy who imprisons her and rapes her]. These two are some of the most complex, unforgettable characters I’ve ever read. The wild part is I wouldn’t even say I’d want to be friends with them, nor are they characters I can relate to. But they are utterly compelling.

>Helena and Kaine are brilliant at what they do - Helena with her healing, Kaine with his killing - and they’re essentially two sides of the same coin.

>he truly is a monster: a mass murderer of men, women, and children alike. Anything that stands in his way is annihilated. That’s what makes him so compelling.

This is from the top review, it's been at the top for weeks now
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>>25087136
>Anon starts talking about male love interests completely unprompted
>Goes into niche picks (The Ligthouse or whatever the fuck is called) just to do so
Hmmm, thanks for proving my point
>As someone who worked for the femslop industry
>worked
When did you stop? Yesterday? Why do you know anything about fucking Alchemised? It came out like 4 months ago. Again, you are such a faggot, anon.
>my trans-terrone
Well hello there, milady. Long time no see. Did the bully fucked you, after all? Or was it all just a sexual fantasy? You are not a faggot, after all, just a TIF whose too horny because of injecting too much Testosterone because you are like any other woman: a spoiled cunt who can't control herself.
And no, I'm not gonna give you a smut recommendation for you to jerk off to, but I will prove to you that there are books that do feature of a woman who falls in love with a nerdy, ugly guy: any, I repeat, ANY japanese romcom has nerdy male love interests. Google "cozy japanese fiction" for that. Hell, half of all the western romcoms feature your average joe as a love interest.
But you are a little whore who got her brain fried by flicking her bean so much to "dark romance" that now you cut off your tits and hate women because you hate what kind of cheap whore you are.
No, women are not as degenerate as you are.
>all my experience reading and writing femslop
No, you little whore, you weren't reading and writing "femslop".
Reading and writing AO3 and Wattpad trash is not "femslop". Haunting Adeline got rejected by every publisher, that's because that shit doesn't sell: the author had to self-publish it, and then she started to stir up controversy by taking it off the market and saying that "actually, it was Amazon that took it off". She didn't censor it at all, but now Amazon doesn't "ban" it anymore: why? Because it was all a marketing stunt to market a book that is read because the violence is a gimmick to make it edgy. The only ones reading it for anything other than "it's soooo edgy lol" are trannies like (You), who got raped by their uncles and now think that's what romance is like. Don't project your degeneracy onto others, woman.

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>>25065916
I haven't really understood the open secret that most romance novels are just smut, but we don't call them that because it's gross. Everyone knows what these books are, the subject matter is always depraved and fetishistic, and the women reading them always have to go through mental gymnastics to somehow make it seem like it's not just smut. Is it puritan culture? Even when some of these get movies like Fifty Shades and you have women leaving cucumbers in theaters everyone just sort of shrugged and went, "yeah, what'd you expect?"
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Foids only read rape slop so they can fucktasize themselves in the main character
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>>25088613
Romance was more than smut back in the day (predates the novel)
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>>25066011
real nigga shit

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>Be me
>Girlfriend caught going to same guy’s apartment every night
>Remember I read David Hume once
>“No necessary connection doesn’t mean causation”
>Constant conjunction
>Refuse to infer
>Friends show evidence anyway
>Invoke Immanuel Kant
>Remember causality structures experience
>Run mental regression
>Dominant variable: cheating
>Posterior = zero
>Realize skepticism was just cope
>Mfw induction works
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British philosophy except whitehead is retarded yes
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>>25089519
Que?
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>>25089594
Read a book
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>>25089519
kek
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>be me
>read Hume's ought/is treatise
>can no longer pretend objective morality exists
Was good knowing you fellas, but it's over for me

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Which Bible translation does /lit/ prefer?
I grew up in an ultra religious (mormon) family and the KJV is the only version we used
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>>25075944
NASB pew Bibles are very comfy to read.
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>>25087961
a hardcover pew bible would be my last choice
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>>25087436
That's actually a really good point, something to be aware of. I would still much rather have purgatory than the alternative but people shouldn't rely on it. It's essentially inevitable if you're not a literal saint but that's no reason to extend your stay.
However, I also think it has to do with a very long institutional memory of being a hereditary religion. Being a "cultural Catholic" is a recipe for complacency. Same trap the Israelites kept falling into.
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>>25075944
Latin American Bible.
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>>25075944
LSB

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This guy is considered to be the greatest japanese author of 20th century. Why are there never any threads about him here?
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>>25086251
have you read patriotism? he knew exactly what he meant to say there and he wrote it right in the middle of his career.
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>>25078757
He and Kawabata are my favorites of Japanese lit.
>>25080332
The Secret History of the Lord Musashi and Seven Japanese Tales are my favorites of his.
>>25080451
>Like a combination of Tolstoy and Austen.
You are insufferable. Not shitting on Tolstoy or Austen, just you.
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>>25089573
The Makioka sisters can pretty adequately be described as a crude Jap Jane Austen knockoff.
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>>25080332
Probably In Praise of Shadows, but the Makioka Sisters and Diary of a Mad Old Man were excellent reads too.
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>>25089585
Sure, but that is because it is not a knockoff and reducing it to a knockoff will make it seem crude.
>>25089588
In Praise of Shadows is great but I don't think it is a good entry into Tanizaki unless you are into aesthetics. I have wanted to read Diary of a Mad Old Man for years, Brautigan's dedication for Sombrero Fallout was something like "for Junichiro Tanizaki who wrote Diary of a Mad Old Man" and that dedication is where I found out of Tanizaki, so I went down to the used book store which ended up having half a dozen of his books, I bought them all and plowed through them. Still have yet to stumble on a copy of Diary of a Mad Old Man and it is still the book of his I want to read the most. One of these days I will just order a copy.

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According to Adorno and Horkheimer, antissemitism has nothing to do with what jews do or fail to do, and jews are unfairly targetted. The suppression of mythological discourse by the Enlightenment is undone the moment that Enlightenment civilization fails its prerrogatives (sell God for money), then mythological discourse manifests in the form of conspiracy theories targetting minority groups, in order to create a fake nationalist narrative to cope with the failure of capitalism and of the Enlightenment civilization.

According to them, jews are just a random target, and there is nothing they could have done or not done to stop this.

I think they stand correct, considering how antissemitism is rising again, quickly so, as capitalism (and Enlightenment civilization itself) fails a younger generation. What is their first reaction? Blame the jews.
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>>25088658
>>jews are behind everything that Western Civilization ever did, Is that wrong?
Again, Europe has a Greco-Roman history. It has a pagan history; the Teutons, the Norse, the Iberians, the Celts, etc. The fact that Jews would even try to take credit for this is ridiculous. The hack neocon Josh Hammer wrote a book about this absurd false premise. It's a very popular talking point with the Israel supporting crowd.

>I am just taking the conspiracy theories that the book criticizes to their (il)logical conclusion
The book is simply a fictionalized tale of the Jew's evolutionary group strategy against their host nations. That's it.
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>>25077549
>colonizing
The muslims colonized that whole region, only Arabia belongs to them.
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>>25076844
The pogrom is gonna be global.
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>>25088279
Everybody's strangely quiet about this.
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>>25077341
>Zionist Communists still exist
They don't exist. Zionism is nationalism. They're literal fascists and Jewish supremacists.

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isnt it much more realistic to say that the world, as everything there is, is in fact infinite... than to say it came out of nothing, or to say god created it ?

because if god created it, why just then ? Especially if god is infinite...

And from nothing comes nothing everyone knows that...

Whatever caused the Big Bang it was a part of this world... this world is infinite at least in time...

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Why don’t they have a worthwhile literature while Latin-America produced so many greats? What was lost when those Europeans settled the North American continent that wasn’t lost while they settled South America? Is it because the main cultural influence was British, the weakest of the main European literary traditions? Why was it not corrected after countless Germans, Italians, Irish etc. emigrated? They have Melville and arguably Poe, Faulkner and Dickinson, that seems like a weak harvest for 250 years of existence. And why are they so obsessed with this concept of the “Great American Novel”? Is it because they can only approach arts and culture through the lens of sports?
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>>25087390
>Complete works of Garielle lutz
Kill yourself, you unread tranny
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>Why don’t they have a worthwhile literature while Latin-America produced so many greats?
>Is it because the main cultural influence was British, the weakest of the main European literary traditions?
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>>25087595
meant to be maradona, greatest footballer to ever live (second only to messi, another argentinian)?
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>>25087376
>Latin-America produced so many greats?
What are you talking about? the only 2 good spanish language books ever written are Don Quixote and Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius
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>>25087376
bump

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>its a chapter at Khokhlakov's house
KINO
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>>25088906
For me, it's the gold mine chapter.
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>>25088906
Smerdyakov with a Guitar
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>>25089058
Love that chapter, genuinely one of my favorites.
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>>25088906
Aleksey's jerking off chapter rules. Less of a chapter and more of a page. I thought it was funny at least.
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>>25088906
>it's dostoslop
hard pass

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Hello /lit/!

I am on that self improvement grindset, what are some books I should start with. So far I'm reading through 12 Rules and its really opening my eyes.
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>>25089377
Spoken like a true Peterson dick rider. If you want to take self-improvement seriously, you should consider being more open-minded. On the other hand, continue embarrassing yourself like this and you will get nowhere.
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>>25089377
Ah yes, the traditional New Delhian surname “Hesse”.
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>>25088872
>what are some books I should start with
I would not read self improvement books, for the most part these are bullshit designed to keep you on an endless treadmill of consooming "self improvement" content while keeping you as insecure as ever. At best these things made me try a habit for a week or two before dropping it.

I recommend reading books on the actual skills/aspects of your life you want to improve, and trying to also get hands on practice irl.
Also try to realistically asses you own strengths, weaknesses and character. You want to become a better version of yourself, not eternally fall short of some hypothetical unachievable "best" version that can only exist in your fantasies.
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>>25088872
I liked some of the Peterson lectures but this book was just boring. It's evopsych stuff that was popularised better by Desmond Morris. Framing it as rules dumbs it down too much while also complicating the ideas. You want to understand the basics of evolution and derive "rules" from that.
It's interesting how much of the far left tranny type of thinking needs you to implicitly deny evolution or ignore it.
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Fuck self improvement. Rich dad poor dad changed nothing for me but I now know where I went wrong.

Will reading aloud turn me into a mouth breather with a receding chin? I've tried it recently and I always end up taking breaths with my mouth and I'm really scared about the receding chin thing
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>>25088922
Personally I just stopped caring. I live in a bubble because I choose to.
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>>25088922
Are you an adult? If yes, any posture change will be superficial and not structural (the damage is done while growing), do whatever you want then lift weights to retain/correct posture.
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>>25088922
You're chin doesn't recede from mouth-breathing after puberty. That happens during growth
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>>25088922
Did you deliberately choose the stock photo with the most aggressively jewish looking creature you could find?

She's not a good writer and her criticisms are mostly informed by her social/political views, and I say that as someone who agrees with her.
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>>25081859
Most of that is sensory information and then moving the plot by asking where the smell comes from. Thats fine writing to me. It seems like a bad choice to use a block about smells as representative
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>>25082009
Women and hollywood need to be told that it is antifem if the only way to make a strong female character is by putting men down/being a henpecker or by being a dude.
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>>25082931
You can look at a published romantasy book and distill it down to script-lit. Its all about hypnotic inductions and using the smut as rewards. You tease sex scenes to maximize dopamine. You use cliches to reduce friction
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>>25089444
I have no faith in modern writers, left or right. What makes you think future writers will be any better?
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>>25089444
the man who controls the court, the legislature & the executive branch wants you to believe he's punk rock. the man who controls the satellite network & the communications platform believed it so hard he bought the megaphone. & you believed both of them. gorgeous. counterculture gets produced when the winning becomes unbearable, not when you hold a position & call it rebellion. right now the unbearable isn't wokeness. wokeness is a corporate HR seminar & everybody knows it. what comes after is the weird left, the xenofeminist demand that if biology is destiny then destiny should be hacked, queer nihilism that looks at the gender binary & treats it like a user interface for a program nobody consented to run. THAT makes both sides recoil. MAGA makes one side cheer & one side grieve. electoral politics, not art.
& truly where your argument eats itself: counterculture has almost never produced great art. beats made one poem & forty years of bad novels. futurists were formally exciting & morally catastrophic & their aesthetics led directly to state propaganda. punk produced three good albums & a clothing line. what actually produces great art is obsessive formal discipline meeting private vision under whatever conditions happen to be present. dickens serialized for the middle class & built the english novel's conscience out of sentiment & fog. eliot worked at lloyds & was a monarchist & wrote the central poem of modernism between anxiety attacks. kafka filed insurance claims in prague & never published most of what he made. dostoevsky was an orthodox conservative who thought the west was demonic & proved it with the greatest novel your board has ever worshipped. mccarthy lived in el paso motels & spoke to nobody & wrote blood meridian. none of these people were counterculture. every one of them is in your canon. they were ungovernable inside their own syntax, not inside a political movement.
conservative "art" being made right now (& i use the word with compassion) is decoration. classical realism revival, tradcath iconography, retvrn memes as aesthetic program. nostalgia objects. nostalgia presupposes that the best form already existed & merely needs recollection. opposite of making art. inheritance cosplaying as creation.
dark woke is the counterculture because it has no audience. it makes the left uncomfortable & the right furious & the center confused. that's the test. not "who's being censored" (everybody claims censorship now; it's a currency) but who's saying something that cannot be absorbed. the thing that can't be sold back to you.

What's the first book you read in French?
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>>25087319
Its mostly because they smell and are adulterous. I prefer Germany.
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>>25087682
You're german i assume
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>>25087682
Imagine learning the language if the guys we beat. Is there anything more cucked?
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TinTin comics..sorry, i mean « bande dessinee »
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>>25088923
>tintin
>not lucky luke
ngmi


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