I am reading Foucoult currently, trying to grasp concepts such as knowledge-power and ideas of moral relativism from Velleman and David B. Wong. They provide an idea that you can judge a moral system based on naturalistic ideas, and thereby improving a moral system with better reasons (hence improving a moral system, which is why we see moral progress).I am also drawn to the idea of the power and truth dialectical. I borrow from Hegel and Fichte for the idea of dialectical.I have many more ideas and I would like to compile a book out of them. I suppose they are rather preliminary.I would like to discuss various political books too, if relevant and perhaps normative in nature. I would like to keep this on track and hence only discuss political philosophy if you can actually cite their books, please. I would like to keep this literary.
OP here, I just want to say I am inspired by a broad variety of French philosophers. From Pascal to Descartes to Sartre to Voltaire, I find myself at home with French thinking. I suppose it is the demythologization of Catholic thinking that I am fascinated by.
>>25123931I could participate but I'm tied down atm
So what the fuck was his problem?
>>25120223This is the best book about getting drunk and going to cafes ive ever read
>>25122890It's almost plotless. The structure is more like a travel narrative in the style of "We went from place A to B and did C." I guess the aimlessness is part of its charm.
>>25120223He can’t fuck his girl normally so he has to do it vicariously through bull fighters, it’s laid out pretty clearly.
>>25122901the best way that I understand it now revolves around the narrator being out of his element having basically lived hardly being an expat right after the great war, and being at least partially dissociated out of its setting, into probably something he's not particularly captivated by. not to mention that the narrator is almost completely distracted the entire exposition, drunk, or working a nondescript job in a particularly nonchalant period, he's completely obsessed with whoever the broad is, and their untold presumably lengthy history together. besides not getting his dick sucked having it gotten blown off reflecting on his personality like a wet towel the whole time, I guess
>>25120292He was a big guy.
I've been reading Yanis Varoufakis' 'The Global Minotaur' to get a better grasp on modern US imposed macroeconomics.Anyone else here read some of his works? Thoughts, and anything else of his worth checking out?
>>25121762Pet
I was thinking of looking into his game theory stuff he co-wrore.It's a nice narrative around a demanding mathematical core.
>>25123090tpbp
>>25121762>Yanis Varoufakis(((EU))) slop
>>25121762What does the cat know of Austerity? Of tightening the belt? same as the people, they immigrate to better shores rather than suffer.
Was he in the right?
>>25123849Whoops never linked it. Fuck phoneshttps://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/latin-american-research-review/article/unoriginal-opinions-of-an-original-man-jorge-luis-borgess-views-on-race-and-brazilian-people-in-his-conversations-with-adolfo-bioy-casares-and-his-literary-works/8187DB52C5D4E2C71667528F0E303CD2?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=bookmarkMight want to delete some of those trackers off the end of the link. I'm not. Again, fuck phones.
>>25123854Wow, I really can't believe this. I think this is already one of the highlights of my year.>Borges: in the United States, people don't make fun of blacks>Di Giovanni explains there is an ongoong racial war in his country and whites don't make fun of blacks because they are afraid of being harmed>Borges: I am racist. I would take the floor from them and we'd see who emerged the winner. I would clear the United States of blacks, and, if nobody stopped me, I would even do the same in Brazil. If they do not get rid of Blacks, they will make the country another Africa.
>>25114030Based, amazing writer too, but he didn’t speak fondly of writers I like so fuck him, hope he’s rotting.
>>25123873HOLY MOTHER OF BASED
>>25115835Seeing as how the Black people in Brazil have been there for hundreds of years, what are they doing? It's not like the recent islamists, scammers, and banking immigrants to Europe.
I was a bit skeptical when they say at the intro there are no tests, considering I think to truly learn Latin one must practice writing it, but I am enjoying the app thus far. I am only at the beginning, Dick-and-Jane level, so I can't give any feedback on the more advanced sections.There have always been two main approaches to learning language, the traditional approach of starting with grammar--according to Muslim lore, Ali began to codify Arabic grammar due to the need of teaching Arabic to converts--which has been used in education, and the 'immersive" method which tries to simulate learning as a child. With Latin, Wheelock is obviously the most famous example of the traditional approach, and Lingua Latina is the most famous example of the immersion approach, which Legentibus evidently takes its inspiration from.
>>25123553Latin had vowel length but their verse prior to heavy contact with the Greeks was based on stress. Even English has vowel length but accentuation in English is based on stress.
>>25123585I thought we didn't fully understand pre-Greek-influence Latin meter.
>>25120583My dream is for Latin to become the predominant language of the West if not the world.
>>25123602We don't
>>25120583As if this board weren't pretentious enough
De Anima is a new server aimed at discussing /lit/ topics such as philosophy, theolog, poetry and other forms of literature, as well as finding fellowship among like-minded people. https://discord.gg/Bp4sz9d7
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anyone have that chart dedicated to books on corn/maize
>>25122168>Any food eaten without moderation will result in obesity.you will never get fat eating lean meat
>>25120886>I just hate Americans.the novel is a critique of american interventionism, so you might like it
>>25122490You'll also die of rabbit starvation and develop a myriad of health issues. Eat some fattier cuts once in a while, throw in some green leafy veg and some potatoes and berries.
>>25120266The industrialized corn with little nutritional value is indeed an issue, though that was created similar to factory farming, meat injected with hormones, etc. Processed sugar and its artificial corn replacements are the main cause of cardiovascular disease and cancer. Not fats and salt.
>>25123578That sounds delicious.
Just finished it. Of all the deaths the little feral girl bothered me the most.How did you guys Lonesome Poke?
>>25122150I liked it but it's not really worth the massive page count. It's kind of like Shogun in that sense that it just goes on and on and you could easily trim 200 pages and nobody would notice a thing. I also read Dead Man's Walk (chronologically the first book in the series) which had nothing of the comfy western feeling Lonesome Dove does, and very much feels like a "me too" Blood Meridian attempt (minus biblical prose).
>>25123604Yeah I gotta agree the Elmira storyline is kind of a waste. It would have been worth it if she got a chapter where she was brutally scalped or something and we heard her final thoughts of either being glad shes dying or having been a complete fucking retard the entire time
Idk I only just read it because everyone online recommends it
>>25123657Meant to reply to you>>25123546
I think McMurtry was trying to write a loner’s tragedy. He considered Call a tragic figure who made a desolate wasteland of his life Normies just don’t grasp how happy schizoids not dealing with their retarded normie bullshit
>Everyone posts Moby Dick>Obscure and repudiated by critics of his time and still isn't really popular or even a cult classic now>Weirdo incest novel with gems like " For surely a gentle sister is the second best gift to a man; and it is first in point of occurrence; for the wife comes after. He who is sisterless, is as a bachelor before his time. For much that goes to make up the deliciousness of a wife, already lies in the sister." and his sister larping with his mother>But is also a kunstlerroman that is arguably autobiographical after his failure with Moby Dick>has his dense dense philosophical prose and arguably his most difficult work other than Confidence ManWhy isnt this more popular or a /lit/ meme?
>>25122579You answered your own question with your last point. Also MD would fly over most littards heads too if it wasn't explained to them in school
It's difficult, and too obscure for people to have the patience to power through it like they do with Ulysses and co. They treat Ulysses with the respect it deserves: they read slowly and reread passages they don't understand, they use annotations, interpretations, consult their Gifford, and slowly come to love it. But they attempt to power through Pierre without any external aid, plus there's not much of it in the first place.It doesn't help that the book is consciously ambiguous and confusing.>Soon then, as after his first distaste at the mystical title, and after his then reading on, merely to drown himself, Pierre at last began to obtain a glimmering into the profound intent of the writer of the sleazy rag pamphlet, he felt a great interest awakened in him. The more he read and re-read, the more this interest deepened, but still the more likewise did his failure to comprehend the writer increase. He seemed somehow to derive some general vague inkling concerning it, but the central conceit refused to become clear to him.
>>25122579>thinks praising sister as wife has to do with sexdude back then women had to do all the chores, so he's just saying he could make his sister be his live-in maid not that he wanted to fuck her.
>>25122579If it's any consolation, this is the third post I've seen related to Pierre in the past 2 months, while before that I never saw it mentioned even once, so perhaps it is actually gaining in popularity.I personally read it about 6 months back, and like second anon said I don't think I took the time I needed to take with it, but from what I remember and what I absorbed during that reading, it was a novel with still excellent prose and rich characters, as well as Melville delving even further into the realm of the human psyche and the ambiguities (heh) therein. Probably the third best work of his I've read, right behind Bartleby and ofc MD, though that may change upon a more thorough and analytical reread. There are few things that sadden me more than the fact that Melville didn't get the recognition he deserved in his life, and that he would quit writing novels only a few years after Moby-Dick. Not only because it's an inherently tragic event for a man of so great genius to go almost completely unrecognized, but also that if he had received the support he needed, who knows what he could have written- already he was leaps and bounds ahead of his contemporaries and willing to experiment and push the boundaries with his writing more than basically any other author, before or since.
>mfw sisterlessIt never began for me
Let me guess, you need more
>>25122006you're thinking of two or three generations before the boomers
What's the most comprehensive single volume oxford dictionary I can have on my desk?
>>25123044>>25122257
>>25121997Are these even sold in this size and format?
>>25121997The only thing I write nowadays is endless to-do lists which I rarely follow.
Obama's top political aide and jewish author Sarah Hurwitz was caught in a recent controversy, due to her declarations that holocaust education has become misguided due to literature and cinema turning the holocaust into a simple moralistic tale of the strong against the oppressed weak, rather than a severe warning of how antissemitism endanger the jewish population — thus, weaponizing the holocaust the state of Israel and the right of jews for self-determination and to have a state for themselves. Modern holocaust education, in Hurwitz's assessment, had robbed the jews of their sacrifice in the holocaust. The holocaust was, after all, the systemic extermination of JEWS on an industrial scale.In 'As a Jew: Reclaiming Our Story from Those Who Blame, Shame, and Try to Erase Us', Sarah Hurwitz delivers an unapologetic discourse that should be employed by all jewish americans in the post-2016 world: yes, jewish people are in danger, and there is nothing wrong in jews seeking the right to exist and reclaiming THEIR history. She often recalls the roots of antissemitism in corruption, such as the rise of Boulangerism leading to the Dreyfus affair in France, and the rise of antissemitism in Nazi Germany culminating in the holocaust — which, in agreement with jewish philosophers in historians, had less to do with any , but as a general failure of capitalism and the very same western civilization that blames the jews for their misgivings.*****
>>25123359> if you dont agree with bombing hospitals are starving pallies> if you dont agree with pimping 12 year olds to politicians to bomb iran> then you want every jew to dieso be it
>>25115854Citizen of no country then ? What should we count them for ? The lesson is that unlike literally every other people that has suffered similar crimes, the jews have not learnt from it
>>25123697after wwii japan said no one should ever be nuked and refused to build nukes
>>2512335929In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge.30But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge.31Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: 33But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
>>25123359You are not entitled to anything.Either the Jews are a strong independent people who can hold their own with the grace of G-d in which case you don't need my approval or you're just another dime a dozen minority begging for scraps in which case you have nothing to offer or threaten me withPick one. The entitlement of the Jewish people knows no bounds.
Trying to decide what the next novelist i plan to read from, I've really enjoyed Cormac McCarthy as of late especially Suttree (highly recommend, most human thing I've read) and I want to give either Faulkner or Steinbeck a try, which one should I go for and should I read something like East of Eden, Grapes of Wrath, Light in August, or sound and the fury (or absalom). Also what 20th century americana author am I missing out on?
>>25121763Yeah faulkner is dope
>>25121849dope, dope on what?
>>25121763>Faulkner or SteinbeckOne of these is a master prose stylist.The other ... isn't.
Is this gay gooks poetry any good or is he just astroturfed because he's a gay gook?
>>25121314>Is this gay gooks poetry any goodno. we have our own gay gook poet laureate here who is much better. his name is chongfen ling-harvey and he writes beautiful soaring poetry that warms the heart and the buns
>>25121587He does casually mention giving gay blowjobs in this poem I found in Harpershttps://harpers.org/archive/2021/07/reasons-for-staying-ocean-vuong/
>>25121314Astroturfed.I think he shows a lot of potential but he is extremely melodramatic. Some parts of OEWBG legitimately made me laugh from how fucking corny it was.The most memorable line from the book is the gay chinaman mc saying >it's not fair that the word laughter is trapped inside slaughterWhich is not a good sign.
>>25121314I had to read his shitty Night Sky with Exit Wounds at university.>poems about sucking dicks>poems about masturbation>poems explaining how his longest pubic hair was 1.2 inchesThere's nothing here of the true, the good or the beautiful. The only halfway decent thing he did was the wordplay of>Okay>OK>AKbut that's not enough to salvage this shit
>>25121314I remember once seeing him being interviewed on a talk show. The only other poet I've seen on a talk show these days is Rupi Kaur. I think that should tell you everything about his quality.
Medieval edition>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·>>25064706>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw>Mέγα τὸ ANE·https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg>Work in progress FAQhttps://rentry dot co/n8nrkoAll Classical languages are welcome.
>>25103940ἄλλο τι
>>25123339>Dionysius of HalicarnassusI gotta say, after reading definitely more than what the challenge required(first three chapters), I really like his style, he's not super straightforward, but still satisfying, and I think Romaboos can truly appreciate him.
Why do supines exist?
>>25123667to write cool stuff like eo cubitum
>>25123667utinam plurissimi sint!
>"I'll be famous one day, but for now I'm stuck in middle school with a bunch of morons"
I remember that this was very popular in school, and all of us wanted to kill manny.
I was too old to read this thing when it was published, what made it so popular with the younguns of the time?
>>25123457If you were a suburb kid you’d relate to Greg being a lazy dumbass who wants to play Twisted Wizard all day and be seen as cool and popular. As a result, a lot of Greg’s antics seem completely realistic, especially when they blow up in his face in very funny but plausible ways. There’s also the family dynamic, which is pretty relatable if you had a dad who always tried to get you to pick up a hobby or if you had an older brother that was a dick to you for no reason
>>25123457Every suburban kid could relate to that quote.
Liars all of you you never talked in person about this book.
