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Why did Bob Dylan win a Nobel Prize in Literature?
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>>24885104
The whole schtick is that ugly losers can self insert and think yeah I can do this too this is literally me
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>>24884621
I like his one song where its like "put the load put the load put the load right on me"
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>>24886902
so like taylor swift but for incels
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>>24883114
He wrote some great lyrics, I'll give him that, but he cant sing or play guitar well. When other musicians cover his songs they are almost always more listenable.
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>>24886909
it's almost as good as that one about the american cream pie

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You’re in pain, you’re insane, I can tell by what you’re saying

Your response, in your best prose
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My bad, I forgot you were fragile
I forgot someone who doesn't even know me told you I'm an asshole
I forgot that I'm the villain
I forgot that I've always spread positivity, but you think I didn't
I forgot that hatred stems from people who hate their own existence
I forgot I'm better off alone
I forgot I care for everyone's happiness, but forget about my own
I forgot I spend every waken second on my phone!
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clock strike twelve, midnight arrives
cock your guns, and sharpen your knives
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>>24884938
Joker Joker Joker. I am the Joker. I hate good, Joker Joker
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>>24884938
you think you have seen crazy jay? Im the king of all crazy. The king to end all Crazy
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>>24884938
I'm Dostoevsky and I'm going to murder you with my words.

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Holy kino

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Do you have bookshelves for your books or do you just keep them around everywhere in your room?
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>>24886905
why would you if you looked like that.
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>>24886911
nutting like a good book
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>>24884403
That's not even copyrighted
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>>24884381
Source for the thot?

This book makes you think in a different way. It has some hidden truth inside in the way it's written, in a child-like, otherworldly manner.

It helps you getting a more pure, lean, clean mindset.
A bit like autism.

Do you know other books that have a similar impact on the brain? I don't care about literary quality but about the long lasting effects of a book, in a way that really changes your mind, not with real world knowledge but with new ways of thinking.
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I have this in my books download folder so I intend to read it someday, but I can't remember why. Is it conceptually unique, or aesthetically unique, or the "first" to do something?
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>>24884905
It's one of those psychological journey books except it's incredibly fucking obtuse in whatever message it's supposed to convey. Is there a word for media that's apparently all deep and symbolic but doesn't actually have anything behind the mask?
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>>24884748
Just read the gnostic gospels brah. Much better.
The best part of this was the Victorian-adventure-style beginning
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>>24886088
Why don't you take this as just another gnostic text?
You know Blake, Tesla and Jung are gnostic canon too
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>>24886079
Pretentious?

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is 4chan the savior of literary culture?
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Which bookshop is this?
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>>24883514
Hell yeah, go for it.
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>>24877113
digital is the way kek
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>>24877194
If you go to the school’s site you can see the latest version of the list. I don’t think it’s in picture form, and it’s mostly the same, but I remember noting some changes here and there.
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>>24877113
maybe 15+ years ago

I hate this word so much.
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>>24886849
not to get too deep into the weeds, but there probably wasn't even a "Homer", rather the poem was created and revised over centuries and canonized by an individual in the Archaic period in writing. maybe you already knew that and were just speaking loosely, I just clarify that point to point to say that whoever canonized the Iliad (which does not seem to be the same author as the Odyssey, based on the language) in general was perhaps just adhering to traditional, rather than intention.

anyways, I'm not implying that the poem treats θεά and Μοῦσα the same necessarily. my last post was specifically talking about the English terms 'Muse' and "goddess'. in the first line obviously the implication is a Muse, as their main characteristic is musical inspiration. it's also worth remembering that, again, the poem is working within metrical restraints. θεά has two syllables and are quantitatively short and long, respectively; Μοῦσα has two syllables but is the other way around (long short): the meter wouldn't work if you were to replace them. there are various instances, for example, where verbose or metaphorical terms are used when more specific ones could be used instead, but wouldn't fit the meter. sure you could say "well then just switch the words around", but that would necessarily affect the syntax of the surrounding lines and what you could and couldn't say to express the desired ideas.
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>>24886849
But the goddess he's referring to is obviously supposed to be Calliope, the goddess of epic poetry and one of the eight muses. Yes, the word generically means 'goddess', but in this case 'muse' is both equally correct and fits the loose meter of the translation better than 'goddess' would have. One must consider the aesthetics of words (especially in cases like this where it doesn't really compromise the meaning at all unless you're mega autistic about it) as well as their function when attempting to translate poetry
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>>24886884
>>24886897
I get it, I was being hyperbolic earlier for fun when I called it retarded. I just personally don't like the word muse because my mind associates it with a stereotypical pretentious artist invoking a "muse." I guess that's just my problem.
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>>24886917
But the reason artists stereotypically invoke a figurative muse is because they're emulating people who literally invoked a muse in the past. It's absurd to blame this translation for thousands of years of people copying the thing they're translating
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>>24886923
It's fine later in the Iliad and in the Odyssey because it feels authentic that it's a literal translation, but since I know the literal translation is goddess in the beginning it feels inauthentic for some reason.

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>>24881664
there is nothing Anarcho about primitivism btw you gonna be busy af eating field rat everyday and feel kinda weak.
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>>24886672
You and he should be shot
>>24886717
http://www.maebrussell.com/About%20Mae%20Brussell/Mind%20of%20Adolf%20Hitler.html

Really incredible that the wikipedia (on his father) states a nazi wrote up that Adolf's grandma had an affair with some 17 year old jew from a rich family in thus and such a place but that it was debunked since there was no such family. Why did a nazi write this about the furer? And why site just that on the wiki?
To cover over the fact we found out her was a Rothschild.
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>>24886894
*why cite
*found out he was
crap
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Who else remembers the golden age of Tedposting
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>>24886903
I do.

Spoiler a soft cover Lolita request is in it

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2025-jeffrey-epstein-emails-books/?taid=691764c827f3260001ff21ff&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_content=business&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
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>>24886182
Holy kek Epstein was a /lit/bro?
Somebody needs to make a reading chart of this
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>>24884473
Thank you fren. Very interesting books on this list. I definitely have to recommend the Marc Rich book King of Oil. It’s a very interesting behind the scenes look at the business of commodities like oil, metals, grains, etc.
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>>24880198
Nigga was going through it, damn
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>>24880409
I actually have all of these and have a story about them but I can't speak about it unfortunately.

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What were /lit/'s favorite book as a child?

What would you recommend to a developing reader?
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>>24885534
I was into westerns/american adventure so I read every will hobbs, every louis lamour, every gary paulsen that the school library had. The most scarring book I remember reading was called crusader and it was about a girl who was like 15 and hadn't had her period yet. All I remember was the part where she bled all over her bed and cried.
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>>24885592
I read her other ones too but I didn't like them as much as Tex. My family have a ranch in Kansas on the Oklahoma border and my parents are divorced so I do know why I liked it so much lol. I also had a mini dirt bike.
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>>24882880
Goosebumps, Animorphs, The Boxcar Children, Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark, The Bailey School Kids.
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captain fucking underpants my nigga
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>>24885523
I also loved Great Illustrated Classics too. It’s how I first read Dracula and Frankenstein.

I've been thinking about Benatar's arguments and honestly the logic is pretty airtight if you accept the premises. We're basically thrown into a meat grinder from birth: constant physical pain, psychological exhaustion, and worst of all, this inescapable moral trap where just existing means you're stepping on someone else to survive. Every "good" thing in life isn't actually intrinsic value, it's just us frantically patching holes in a sinking ship. Pleasure is reactive damage control, not genuine positivity. And nobody consents to this, your parents basically made a unilateral decision to throw you into terminal decay because they were bored or wanted meaning in their own lives. They gambled with your suffering to alleviate their existential dread. The asymmetry is insane, the non-existent can't be deprived of anything but the existent are guaranteed structural harm and moral corruption. Sure maybe life is worth continuing once you're here and you've built coping mechanisms, but starting it? That's an unnecessary imposition of suffering on someone who never asked for it. The ethical math just doesn't work.
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is sex with blood related siblings purely for the pursuit of pleasure acceptable?
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why is this bullshit book constantly floating to the top of /lit/
feels like a psyop
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>>24886433
PsySlop
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>>24881568
>https://philosopherjuliocabrera.blogspot.com/2020/05/articles-and-books.html
>Asymmetries begin to work not because they are based on firm and undoubted intuitions (we always have rival intuitions, endless conflicts between intuitions), but because the world is a bad place, because life is so poor. But this is already one material argument and it is needed to save the asymmetries. Without this material support they do not stand, neither logically or intuitively or axiologically, in a way that cannot be infinitely counter-argued. (After all, we are not compelled to have the same intuitions as Benatar, and the only thing he can do is to defend them, without any possible philosophical checkmate).

>I think that if material argumentation is indispensable, if formal argument cannot stand without it, and if this material argumentation is as extraordinarily strong as the texts of Schopenhauer, Cioran, Benatar and Cabrera among others show, then we could ultimately dismiss the famous asymmetry as perfectly unnecessary (along with all the controversy it aroused, however fruitful and intense) and to show the main pessimistic and antinatalist points only through material arguments, more than sufficient not only to prove that coming into existence always causes serious harm, but also the antinatalist thesis that procreation is always immoral.
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>anti-natalism
reddit cringe
>pro-mortalism
vgh, fvcking based

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Should I let them? They say I will get 40% of the returns from doing nothing. They would translate it into other languages as well.

>Why not do it yourself?
They have a subscription service with lots of active users looking for my genre (smutty romance).
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>>24883874
Does anyone do videobooks? I want to watch but not hear. Does no one cater to the illiterate deaf?
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>>24885120
hollywood?
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>>24883874
As long as you write a simple contract that states IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS that you not only retain all rights, including those to make a separate audio book release, you might as well if you have no plans of doing it yourself.

But be upfront about wanting proof of their revenue so you can be sure you’re getting your cut. Unfortunately without investing any money or effort in to it you’ll likely have no ability to demand a cut of gross revenue and will have to settle for a portion of the potential profit but it’s literally money for work you already did. As well as exposure.
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>>24884228
Nah crinkle some candy wrappers and rub the mic on your shirt a few times softly and call it an immersive ASMR read-along experience.
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>>24883874
Hartley ripping people off again

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Is there any point in reading Heraclitus and Parmenides?

I have a book with fragments and testimonies of Pre-Socratics but its all so sparse and obscure that surely people are just imposing their own frameworks on what little fragments exist.
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>>24885241
Read GWF Hegel’s analysis of the presocratics to truly get it if it helps. Parmenides’ big takeaway is that everything is this thought thinking itself into existence and Heraclitus is sort of like a proto-Big Banger - his idea is everything started as this undivided one but then motion and change came along and one day everything shall return to one. They were the first true metaphysicians to question not only how time and movement work but what their place is in existence.
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>>24885287
>but ancient testimonies about it seem to bear out that it had an enigmatic character to it, and it doesn't seem to have been written as a straightforward treatise,

“I loved the parts in Heraclitus I understood and agree with. I also loved the stuff that I didn’t understand.” - Socrates
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>>24885294
Polybus’ treatise the Nature of Man is an ancient text also worth visiting as secondary resource on the Eleatics. Polybus argues in the opening paragraphs that so long as everything is constituted as an indivisible whole that the makeup of the whole doesn’t matter since everhthing is one uniform material anyways, thus both Eleaticism and Atheism are the same because they claim everything to be of one material.

Really his part was trying to take aim at Thales and Zeno and alll these men who took Monism in their own direction calling everything Fire and Water. You can read Nature of Man by Polybus here-

https://archive.org/details/hippocrates04hippuoft/hippocrates04hippuoft/page/4/mode/1up
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The Nature of Man is interesting to me as criticism of the Ionian school of philosophy (essentially calling people like Thales and even Heraclitus who called everything fire - to be the same as Eleatics). I also like it for the implication that atheists, Ionians and Eleatics may as well be all the same in their taking everything as a uniform material.

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|. He who is accustomed to hear speakers discuss
the nature of man beyond its relations to medicine
will not find the present account of any interest.
For I do not say at all that a man is air, or fire,
or water, or earth, or anything else that is not an
obvious constituent of a man; such accounts I leave
to those that care to give them. Those, however,
who give them have not in my opinion correct
knowledge. For while adopting the same idea
they do not give the same account. Though they
add the same appendix to their idea—saying that
“what is” is a unity, and that this is both unity

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>>too is at fault. The best way to realise this is to
be present at their debates. Given the same
debaters and the same audience, the same man
never wins in the discussion three times in succes-
sion, but now one is victor, now another, now he
who happens to have the most glib tongue in the
face of the crowd. Yet it is right that a man who
claims correct knowledge about the facts should
maintain his own argument victorious always, if his
knowledge be knowledge of reality and if he set it
forth correctly. But in my opinion such men by
their lack of understanding overthrow themselves
in the words of their very discussions, and establish
the theory of Melissus


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How do I ensure that the book I'm writing isnt colosally fucking stupid? Half the time I think the idea is brilliant and the execution is going to work, the other half the time I cringe at my own bullshit and abandon whole plot lines because I become convinced it's shit.
What overcomes this?
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>>24885862
Acknowledge and overcome your inner critic. Save it for editing
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>>24885997
What's your book about anon?
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>>24886251

It’s a medieval adventure/horror.
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>>24885862
Get it down, then fix it. But get it down first. You can’t fix what doesn’t exist.
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>>24885862
There's this magical thing called "editing." It seems you've never heard of it, but you should look into it.

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Are you an expert in any field or a mere jack of all trades and sophomoric dabbler?
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>>24886304
Heinlein was a hack and fucking lol at you parroting his retarded thoughts
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>>24886313
Ad hominem isn't an argument.
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>>24886160
Didn't the same guy post again later that he at least was doing somewhat better?
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>>24886304
This except unrionically
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>>24885920
>a mere jack off
yeah that's me kek


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