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What are your thoughts on this book? Some peolpe call it garbage(as much as every self-help bool out there) but can it be any useful?
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>>25329133
I think a lot of these self-help books that have anecdotal messages falls apart when you look up who or what they're referencing.
They could be right but the fact they're wrong makes it harder to absorb the message.
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>>25330731
You could say this about almost any self-help book.
A whole lot of fluff while the actual useful content could be summarized on one page.
I do think the basic premise is sound.
Moving away from goal based thinking
>I want X. I need to get X by end of the month. etc.
to
>I'm a motherfucker who does X erry day
You're more likely to actually consistently get results.
That's about it.
And oh, yeah, small and easy tasks are more likely to get done than gigantic, vague goals. So split everything into the smallest tasks you can think of and do them one at a time. But I'm pretty sure I've read that in some other book.
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>>25323819
Self help books are trash. They’re really only good for sounding smart to dumb people and that is the primary audience for this crap. I know this is all crap because I know what you actually need to do to get whatever it is you want and it isn’t a fun process taking a hammer and chisel to your spirit. You put the actual shit that works in a book and tell people “there’s other way” and most of those people will kill themselves to avoid doing it or kill themselves during it from the trauma being inflicted on their minds and identity. It’s better to sell them dopey magic systems which are basically rhetorical snake oil that allow them to basically placebo themselves into feeling productive until it wears off and they go buy another book with another system.
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>>25330776
give me your system
right now
RIGHT NOW
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>>25323819
I have yet to find one of these books that couldn't be losslessly condensed into less than 10 pages.

I've read most long books I wanted to read so I'm looking for something quite different.
These long books usually overwhelm you with new characters every page, plot lines that go nowhere and a stream of information about many subjects.
So I'm looking for the opposite of that. Short, dense and intense books that can only be read a few pages at a time.
Do you have any suggestions?
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>>25330298
>I've read most long books I wanted to read
Now all that's left is all the long books you *should* read.

>Short, dense and intense books that can only be read a few pages at a time.
I assume we're talking literature here. Because any decent mathematics textbook beats the shit out of anything in the humanities when it comes to thought required per symbol on the page.

Anyway, my recommendation is poetry.

— Pick a good book of poetry.
— Read one poem per day.
— Learn them by heart.

I personally like <pic attached> but go for whatever makes your toenails twinkle.
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>>25330298
Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus
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>>25330298
Plats by John Trefry

Maybe one of the best 21st century books I’ve ever read. Very strict formal structure of 10 lines per paragraph, 3 paragraphs per page. Around 150 pages long. Each paragraph functions as a modular unit of prose-poetry. The narrative (if there is a narrative to speak of) is non-linear and has minimal characters (an I, a you, and a she). There is a chaotic, fragile whole that emerges if you read it cover to cover, and despite the highly abstract language it has a deeply resonant emotional core.
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>>25330304
Its best enjoyed after the 6th reread t. Mann
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>>25330298
Flaubert would be the counter-style to this: one voice, no overtly complicated sentences, but edited and refined to the point of perfection. All his four novels are worth your time, and he's the best teacher of style.
If you want to notice details in description you need to stay on the page a bit longer and think about word choice and what it makes you imagine.

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What do you guys think?
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>>25331351
It's like I'm watching a video game cutscene
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first page of my latest attached

OP, you need to put some action lines in to tell us where the fuck we are and what were supposed to see in our head
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>>25331406
So you're telling me so you're telling me is fine?
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>>25331529
i think you have something here, anon
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>>25331520
They seem to get heated over something really trivial. I personally don't know anyone who would bicker so much over a movie night unless it held some greater significance. This tends to happen when the author is building their world as they write line by line, instead of putting pre-understood characters in a situation. In short, you're going into a several-draft process at best, trying to figure out how much characters want something retrospectively.

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Better late than never
https://rentry.co/Quick_Question
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>>25330181
>She either patiently or impatiently watches…He can’t tell…
Emphatically, put the adverbs first:
“Patiently or impatiently, she watches…”
>finagle with buttons and levers.
I’m pretty sure you mean “fiddle.”

>"Now this /has/ to be for the engine," he remarks
“remarks” is too neutral a say-word.
The italics and his self-assuredness deserve something more pompous/exasperated, like “concludes” or “promises.”

>He shuts the compartment close
“closed”

>…she crosses her arms.

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>>25330181
>>25330926
Pretty solid short story. Very charming.
>At least it didn't sink.
Like, I love his optimism.

>Ben pull[s] out the boat key from his pocket.
I would have been mortified after this point, but he’s just so happy to find a solution that his ineptitude is instantly dispelled.
Every failure is simply “blasted away” by his success…or by his exhaustion of options…or by Elain telling him something.
Of course, not having your failures stick with you isn’t always a good thing—the second he gets the boat going, he goldfish-memories the fateful blunder he had at 16 (the same one he was just ruminating on.)
>"I used to know it like the back of my hand,"
While he “sunk [the first boat] on [his] first try,” he probably spent years on his dad’s(?) boat as a passenger.
I kind of doubt a guy like Ben even really knows the back of his hand though.

>But you might have a better chance with a new prompt. So let a new one come.

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>>25330181
Wanted to say I liked this quite a bit. Something always gets in the way of the inevitable crash, and the minor successes are almost enough to make me think it might work out in the end, then even the expected crash is turned into something else. Really nice.

I'll go against what was said in the other crit, and suggest that you'd be better off if you dropped stuff like
>he remarks
>he murmurs to himself
>he shouts victoriously
since all the dialogue itself already makes these points. The first is already a remark. The second already implies a murmur. The shout (with exclamation mark!) is already victorious. Be sparing when describing the dialogue like this, since it can burden the piece. It's a very different style, but still comedic, so I'd recommend you this reading from James Tate that was recommended to me way back on here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPJTXOMHTk4
and suggest you pay attention to his way of writing dialogue.

Another critique I'll counterpoint is making the narrator more distinct from Ben. The narrator seemed implicitly to be in on Ben's thoughts, and it helped me feel carried away with Ben's enthusiasm in a way that defied the true circumstances, and sets up the ending better. Elaine is already the doubting counterbalance, and I think it's better that the narrator support Ben's position rather than undercutting it. Too much doubt and the story is more pathetic than comedic.

Small things that could be tidied up, like
>She double-takes behind her

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>>25330926
>>25330936
>>25331359
Thank you for all the thorough, positive feedback. Sometimes you go without any for so long that you doubt if anyone could simply enjoy a story you make anymore. I threw this together in about an hour, and I think the deadline is what actually made me type anything.

In regards to a new competition, it's whatever you think is best, as long as you allow it to move on. If I'm rewarded with commentary like this, I can't think of any reasons not to participate again.

I made most of the prompts in >>25314871 . Perhaps I should kickstart it again with a fiction or two.

Anyone read this? It's being promoted by some very important people as a new seminal nonfiction text
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>>25322509
No, I no longer read anything jews have to say.
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>>25322525
>economically left

So you want the government to manage the means of production/
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>>25322635
Straight up tired of you fucking animals using our reason and empathy to FUCKING DESTROY US! BURN IN HELL
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>>25331134
Unbelievably based post
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>>25327273
I prefer this response to it

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*loses to Nick Land*
*kills himself*
Can't win if ya don't play!

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Clarice Lispector is one of the greatest writers yet /lit/ ignores her because of what's between her legs. How shallow can you be?
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>>25332471
I liked the hour of the star but I found near the wild heart and G.H boring
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>>25332421
I didn't try to convince anybody, this is a thread about her and I just said I like her.
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>>25332507
Please don't listen to that faggot, op. I like your thread quite a lot
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>>25330451
>Borges
oh? what do you recommend of her works? i'll give her a chance if she can be bridged to borges...
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This is a gay twink thread

Has anyone else noticed how jewish writers have a very distinctive writing style in which they always emphasize judaism and being jewish?
Excluding works in which race or religion are the focus, I've noticed their literary style possess a composition that makes references to their customs, lifestyle and religion very noticeable. Rather than being a casual or sly mention, the narrative shifts and the comment becomes its center in order to make it stand out, as if to show it off or tell the reader how exotic it is. I've seen it also happens in their nonfiction works too, to the point they quote and divulge other jewish figures or works over non-jewish ones.
I think is particularly jarring when the author promotes atheism or mocks other religions or races.
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pic unrelated, i guess
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>>25332491
Meant to reply to the OP?
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Yes one of the most obvious traits of Jews is how they see themselves as eternal outsiders. A normal race sees itself as the default and inhabiting a country which is the center of the world; Jews invert this and see themselves as the exception, and possess a very snide pride in being irregular.
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>>25332428
Eh Joseph Roth wrote an excellent novel The Radetzky March where I’m pretty sure he didn’t mention being Jewish even once
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>>25332453
Twenty-Four Hours in the Life of a Woman literally has a whole chapter dedicated to describing the beauty of a synagogue and the whole novel is about a woman being oppressed by Christianity.
>Obviously Jewish people are going to integrate their background into their writing
The way they do it is different from normal people. Even in slop by female Asian diaspora, the race or religious element is an underlying element, rather than something that is brought out to catch the eye of the reader.
Let's consider a novel by a Christian or Catholic writer, say Brideshead Revisited. The story revolves around the relationship between Charles Ryder and the Anglo-Catholic family, the Flytes. Catholicism is an underlying element because it shapes the Flytes as characters. It's hanging there as a ghost that shows up now and them, but is never brought inadvertently. Compared to that, what jewish writers do is pull judaism out of nowhere and mention of how special it is, as if it was a display in a glass case. It rarely serves as a element to the story, it serves as an addition that is brought to show off.

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ITT: books you used to like but you can't stand anymore

yes, it's because I became racist against Indians
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>>25327353
>>25330735
That's hilarious. This is going on my TBR.
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Books.
I used to like them.
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>>25330696
The courts chose him because there were no victims. Each of those bitches were lying "Me Too" retards who thought they'd be the new pampered wife next to Amanda Palmer.
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>>25330866
sure thing chuddy

name at least 5 books you read from 2000s non mainstream authors
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>>25330964
>chuddy ran away
/thread

>want to get into poetry
>have to parse esoteric schizophrenic nonsense like iambic pentameter
I'm too stupid for it
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poetry comes from the heart
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im too lazy for meter, i mostly write in free verse, but it took me a while to learn how to count syllables with one weird trick, and also see which ones are stressed or unstressed.

its not that complicated once you get it, but its too much work, and most people write in free verse nowadays, despite what some formalist pol tard tells you about how only real poetry has rhyme and meter
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>>25332586
>>25332604
>filtered by da-DUM da-DUM da-DUM da-DUM da-DUM

>read excerpts of sex scenes from popular romantasy novels
>I could piss better erotica than that
>in fact I wrote a sex scene better than that when I was a 19 year old virgin
Why are we not writing smut to make as much money as possible from roasties? Sounds like they will literally pay for this stuff if it includes meme worthy kinky sex.
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>>25331181
>>25329564 didn't do it for you?
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>>25320904
I do write smut sometimes. It got old.
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>>25320904
>>I could piss better erotica than that
false.

women are dumb. You are selling it to dumb women, so, it has to be formulaic and very dumb, otherwise, it won't sell, that's just how it is. Sort of like how women are too dumb to get jokes but laugh when everyone else does.
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>>25331181
>their erotica
It's a blue board, isn't it?
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this thread is bad and I am very disappointed in all of you
*cums*

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Does 120 Days of Sodom have any literary value?
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>>25332209
This
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>>25318916
>why does she speak like that?
Just a younger person who is still unsure of themselves and their place in life.
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>>25332410
damn, you almost at 100% meme word count. mommy proud.
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new thread when?
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>>25332370
could you summarize it? not saying im not going to read it.

>>25332393
i agree. the successive generations of accelerating mass media waterboarding were probably what allowed this to happen. i think they have an "excuse" to some extent because the dexterity and universality of the mind warping abilities of the internet are really incomparable to anything prior. its really depressing, but i see (maybe im just ignorant or the offline ones are deemed "irrelevant" by their non-presence) almost no half way serious resistance or critical thinking against technology and how theyve been molded by it. when i see anything at all, its a superficial performance for the internet or done in someway heavily molded by the internet, as though they have as a whole totally lost the ability of seeing the world in a human non-mediated way. they dont even seem to care about trying to figure out what they were robbed of, even though they are all mentally ill and suicidal. there is a group called the luddite club that has a free quarterly zine. i have no idea how large it is but at least its some kind of effort from them. but yeah, in any number that matters, gen z will not and cannot do anything for gen alpha.

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Feel free to add based recs

>Sun and Steel
>Blood Meridian
>The Prince
>American Psycho

Also Mad Men gets and honorable mention

The hypermasculine fascist ideal is today realized by figures like Thiel, Altman and Musk. It's no surprise that leftists detest them so much, seeing that they're the living affirmation of Gentile's theories

Also books in general which portray sociopaths as superior from an evolutionary standpoint.
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>>25332064
It'e extremely normal in.older agricultural communities who own their land collectively, a very large portion of the land seized by Jews in Palestine was co-owned and farmed by villages, because the British said their lack of private ownership of individual homes and plots of land deprived them of legal recognition of ownership
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>>25332074
Anglo-Jewish liberalism is the real fascism.
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>>25332232
Fascism is literally just regular Euro-colonialism but used against other Europeans
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>>25331997
>>25332012
How do you fucking retards manage to use this site
>>25331993
Yeah I don't get it either. If it's just a joke it's funny but doesn't seem worth the effort.
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>>25331618
2021 called they want their LARP back. Anyway, read this if youre actually a fascist.

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>>25332199
>Harry Potter doesn't believe in anything in particular and just sort of reacts to the bad guys until he wins
These stories can be ok if the villains are cool and terrifying, but Voldemort is so fucking lame despite being so overhyped early on. Even in supposedly non YA fantasy like Wheel of Time the big bads are incredibly disappointing
Morally grey stories are generally way more interesting because the antagonists are actually allowed to be true threats to not only the protagonists lives but their worldviews, instead of being pinatas who are basically there to reinforce the normie reader's biases
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>>25332199
The virtues of the hero are usually respected even by the big bad. The opposing force is failure to live up to the virtues instead of actual veneration of evil. Even Death itself tends to value life, it's just acting out its role in the wider picture, to root out decay. The hero also tends to be weak to temptations which creates dramatic tension and makes the adversaries who do succumb to temptation relatable.
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>>25327642
get that bitch off my mother fucking tolkein
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>>25332280
I think Book Voldemort is pretty interesting actually. There's something likeable about how self-aware, snarky and cynical he is. The way he jobs at the end is lame though
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>>25327672
>Túna (Q, pron. [ˈtuːna]) was the green hill in Aman, raised by the Valar within the Calacirya, upon which the Vanyar and the Noldor founded their fair city of Tirion. In the Years of the Trees the light of the Two Trees fell upon its western face and its shadow lay ever to the east, reaching Sardïné and the Sea.

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>that chapter 6
God, I love Halo.
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>>25329066
Weren't the bongs all about Counterstrike in the 00s?
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Now the long wait for this one begins.
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>>25322690
You missed out, the Forerunner Trilogy is even better then Contact Harvest and Ghosts of Onyx. It's full of radical changes to the fundamental truths of the Halo universe though so you may have hated what it did if you dislike 343i retcons.
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>>25329069
Not really, they represent religious fundamentalism in general, if anything they are more Catholicism coded then anything considering the terminology the series uses

>b-but the Dervish

One name that they didn't even end up going with, wheras all the names the franchise does use for Covenant stuff are terms from Christianity and the Catholic Church
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>>25331966
I need to give that trilogy a new try again. I am VERY fine tuned to pay attention to the forerunner now. Lol
I watched so many lore videos, read the Ace of Spades trilogy and Epitaph. Epitaph to me was one of the best books I've read in my life.


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