ITT: Bad books that people cope that they were bad on purpose.
>>25515343Should have read Journey to the End of the Night and Les Chants de Maldoror instead.
Why is it bad? Why is it bad? Why is it bad? Why is it bad?
>>25515335By bad you mean you couldn't understand it. And that does make you stupid. It's an extremely straightforward and uncomplicated story. Are there big words in it, no. Is the narrator lying to you, no. Is it surrealistic or confusing on purpose, no. You are literally just too fucking stupid for literature.
>>25516143>It's an extremely straightforward and uncomplicated story.That isn't interesting. It's the equivalent of a trip to the grocery store by a robot that happens to commit manslaughter along the way. Remove the banal violence and it's utterly pointless. It's French Catcher in the Rye.
>>25516143Just because someone doesn't like something doesn't mean they don't understand it. In the case of The Stranger, understanding it makes me hate it even more.
I'm warming to althusser and "structural marxism" as I get older.>>25512129>foucault's work is just reheated althusser with some nietzsche and gay shit thrown inlol yes.
>>25510398>The male Lindsay Clancynah. French Talcott Parsons. Nobody likes to admit it, now that functionalism is so thoroughly unfashionable, but the similarities between them are hard to ignore.
>>25512101All you third worlders do is complain about us, worry about your own country
>>25515487Renée Good's death made your clitty leak that hard?
>>25512129>>25515567Since this seems to be a growing sentiment I'll try and explain why this isn't remotely accurate for the purposes you likely think it is. First I will go ahead and tell you that you both are close to 2/3 of the way there, I mainly mean this in the sense that both Althusser and Foucault engaged in structuralist thinking and both were influenced by Nietzsche. In this sense neither of you are wrong but the missing 1/3 is where neither of you can offer any rebuttal and this is mostly due to ignorance. The last 1/3 is how both of them respond to Marx. Foucault basically rejected most of the conventional methods and what little he didn't reject he mostly stuck to what could be analogously referred to as nominalism. His critiques were overwhelmingly used and enjoyed popularity. This isn't to say Althusser did not have any critiques of conventional Marxism, he did, and his critiques are still more controversial than Foucault's albeit considerably less well known. Althusser didn't have the same goal, he was updating it, and I mean he extensively updated and overhauled it, entirely the product of one thinker. If you subscribe to his updated methods then you could argue you have a workable version as close to the original orthodox methods as has been produced since Marx put pen to paper. The structuralist portions can be used anywhere by anyone, but you shouldn't mistake this for a dilution, the apparatus may not have been popular at the time but if Foucault is rapidly falling out of favor then you will likely start to see Althusser's critiques resurface.
I just finished reading A Season in Hell, and I can't stop re-reading it to enjoy the sheer artistry in it. I want to ask if there are any other prose poets as good as Arthur Rimbaud. I'd prefer prose poems that lean heavily toward the poem side of things, not just authors with a poetic writing style, though if options are thin, that's fine too.
who was that german modernist poet who wrotre an epic that fused extreme nietzschean and catholic ideas in a very radical way? pretty sure i saw him mentioned on here a year or so ago
>>25515098Ludwig Derleth? Reinhard Johannes Sorge?
>>25515000kek
>>25515098>Ludwig Derleththat's it. thanks
Ornaments in Jade by Arthur Machen
Let's discuss this guy. I love his Tales, they're peak short stories. They also feel very appropriate for Autumn. At least the ones about the Puritans do.
>>25514258I wish he wrote more essays. Far and away my favorite writing of his.>Speaking of summer-squashes, I must say a word of their beautiful and varied forms. They presented an endless diversity of urns and vases, shallow or deep, scalloped or plain, moulded in patterns which a sculptor would do well to copy, since Art has never invented anything more graceful. A hundred squashes in the garden were worth, in my eyes at least, of being rendered indestructible in marble. If ever Providence (but I know it never will) should assign me a superfluity of gold, part of it shall be expended for a service of plate, or most delicate porcelain, to be wrought into the shapes of summer-squashes gathered from vines which I will plant with my own hands. As dishes for containing vegetables, they would be peculiarly appropriate.>>25514263That was the best part of the novel and you hated it?
His children's stories hold up quite well. https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/32242
Has anyone read The Marble Faun? How is it? It's the only Hawthorne novel I've yet to read.
>>25514362that bit in the customs house was the only bearable part of that text. where is THAT hawthorne elsewhere? I can't find him anywhere.
>>25516247I hear it's really good. People also say The Blithedale Romance is great.
I'll startFifteen years spent. On 4chan.
>>25515430You said that irony was the shackles of youth, uh-huh. I couldn't understand.
>>25515789Probably the mixture of colors and the angle of the text.
>>25516052"unwelcome bussy is better than no bussy", he repeated to himself whilst being pegged really hard against the wall.
>>25515252that was three sentences
He walked to the grocerie store... thats all. The horror is that he didnt make it because a big flatbed truck run over him and flattened him up and hes dead on his way to the grocrie store
Invisible Death edition>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recommendations):https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Banned Authors:Joe AbercrombieA.A. AttanasioR. Scott BakkerC.J. CherryhGlen CookSteven EriksonR.A. LaffertyMark LawrenceGeorge R.R. MartinComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>anudda bakkerfag grift where he and yev are the only people who read booksai yi yi
Is there anything similar to Neal Shusterman's Scythe novels that doesn't have YA elements?I want to focus on the implications of a world under a benevolent AI and not have it share a book with a I'M BUBBLY AND KIND AND HE'S EDGY AND MURDEROUS(but through no fault of his own and he only kills bad people) AND WE WANT TO FUCK EACH OTHERS BRAINS OUT love plot.
>>25516263Meh, not really, saw worse.Also, there is one from Polish edition.
>>25515566This, but completely unironically
>>25515566Uhhhh.... yes?
I just learned that classical Latin poetry doesn't intentionally rhyme. Instead it uses a pattern of short and long syllables to create a musical effect. This is because rhyming words would be too easy in Latin because of the grammatical endings. Too many words have the same ending, -ibus and whatnot. Whenever there is rhyme it's just a coincidence.https://youtu.be/N7ugsQxe-Bw&t=10
It was Nietzsche by the way who figured this out.There are archaeological artifacts etc. showing how school children for example were taught this system in old Rome, but linguists for the longest time assumed the marks indicated stressed and unstressed syllables.It was Nietzsche, before he turned from linguist to philosopher, who worked out that the markings instead mean long/short, and "stress" as we use it in modern poetry was not what the Romans and Greeks employed.It’s also a pretty fun system to make poetry in, the puzzling of words into the right order. And in cases the length of a syllable can depend on the word that follows, or syllables can melt together, making for nice tricks.Infamously, the hexameter - standard measure of classic epic poetry - does not permit the word "imperator" (he who commands) in any way. Some distressed poet (it may have been Horaz), was driven by this, at the height of the Roman empire, to invent and substitute the term "induperator" (he who says the orders)
>>25511242Pretty cool.
>>25513100This is so retarded I can't tell if it's bait.
>>25511200Don't know, I haven't read much about it.
>>25511242It's funny, to a modern ear it sounds terribly affected. Doesn't deliberately emphasizing the formal traits when reciting amount to a concession that they don't speak for themselves in the text itself?
What do you think of Beowulf? How does it compare to other old poems and legends and myths?
>>25508607Rejecting Christ is the biggest kikery across 3 of the largest religions in all of human history and the entirety of secular philosophy and post WW2 politics. YOU ARE BROWN
>>25513581You believe in every single foundational myth, ethnic hero, moral dogma, and false history that defines Judaism right up to the point of a mere schism over whether THEIR messiah came or not. Cope and seethe. >YOU ARE BROWN lol
>>25513574I'm made of fish?
>>25515145Yes. Why wouldn't you be? Are not fish made of fish in much the same ways plants are made of plant material?
>>25513109Says Mr. Long-nose.
This is honestly one of the most phenomenal books I've ever read. His use of montage is amazing. Why don't I see it being discussed more?
>>25511632>Why don't I see it being discussed more?>>25515025>Alfred Döblin – Berlin Alexanderplatz
>>25513993Holocausting ze jews was unironically a major braindrain for germany.
>>25515700they seem to have very well in the post-war, other than now, with the whole third world mass-immigration sabotage, anti-nuclear greenie retardation
One of my favorite books. For more like this I recommend:Wolfgang Koeppen - Pigeons on the GrassHans Henny Jahnn - The Ship but even moreso Perrudja if it ever gets translated.Arno Schmidt - Nobodaddy's ChildrenAlso Döblin's great first novel The Three Leaps of Wang-Lun has an english translation in print.
>>25516133>Hans Henny Jahnn - The Ship>Arno Schmidt - Nobodaddy's Childrenthese are both excellent, particularly schmidt
What the fuck is his problem?
i can't wait until this dude croaks so i don't have to see these viral marketing threads anymore
>>25515166anons are just coping and still cling to a futile hope>>25515176they're going to become worse for a couple of years after he dies
>>25515166I think the truth is the most pathetic. He is writing, but it’s taking forever because he’s got the hardest parts left after punting on making real decisions for decades. He couldn’t do it when he was young(er), he really can’t now. He’s finally got his big break and he wanted to do everything. That isn’t speculation since he’s rushed around trying to sell more shows, other author’s shows, wanted to own bookstores, theatres, rail lines, 1000 side projects, because he can. He’s wanted to write for TV since forever so he tries to do that too. He wants to edit Wild Cards. He wants to travel the world, see his shows filmed, visit Cons. Meanwhile time flies, his friends die and he gets really sad about it. His girlfriend gets cancer (or similar). Where did the time go? He’s sicker and slower each year. And yet he has to keep trying to convince his fans he’s still writing. He sounds more desperate and pathetic each time, and resentful about the demands and insults. Because he “knows” he’s writing. He’s done… pages. He’s “closer”. He thinks he can actually do it, he just needs the inspiration, a break from tragedies, a little breathing room. He’s got endless room says you. But Georgie doesn’t feel like it. There’s always new commitments and asks and he wants to do it all. He can finally stretch out like he always wanted to. The punchline is “ACK”.
Spends too much time crushing hebes
>>25515239Indeed, heil.
Stack thread. Post your To-Be-Reads, recent hauls, and books you've got on the back burner so people can roast you and your reading taste. If you're lucky, someone will recommend something outta your pile.
>>25514527Hmm today I think I won't entertain a stranger online.
>>25514533Are you implying that you are Peter Mark Adams? or? Can't decide which would be more depressing, but your "proof" says more than any response that you could offer.
>>25514513La Bas filtered me hardcore. The prose is impenetrable.
>>25514547mind posting an example? curious. is it different from à rebours?
>>25514608I have no idea this was years ago
Would you rather live in a society with The Moon is a Harsh Mistress gender dynamics or Starship Troopers gender dynamics?
>>25515345>Would you like to live in a society based on Heinlein's writings?Fed honeypot thread
>>25515345Starship Troopers.The Moon is a Harsh Mistress and all the books linked to Lazarus Long gets a bit too sussy for meHeinlein has a funny idea off free love involving accepting all sexualities except for man-on-man sexIn long past chiliads, anons would have called him based
>>25515362I would also like to spank a little girl with a nice bottom. Are you a fag or something?
>>25515373In "To Sail Beyond the Sunset" he even explored man-on-man sex a little bit which surprised me (as well as the actual straight-up daddy-daughter stuff with no fantasy genetic "ackshually" explaining it away)But yes I'd go with The Moon is a Harsh Mistress dynamics every day, I feel like humanity is almost ready for this desu
>>25515674>The Moon is a Harsh Mistress dynamicsaka "simping"
>no dumb hard to remember names & places but still fantasy-like>sentences that actually make sense in english>no sociopathic MCs but will do what they must>better power systems>better comedy>women actually have personalities and are not just "beautiful jades">better romance in generalWhy the fuck didn't you guys tell me western Xianxia is a thing????
>>25516164>chatgpt>my whole lifeimpressive reading skills for a 5 year old?
>>25516164Jesus Christ. It's like if the fantasy genre was called "virtuehero" and every protagonist was the same. How do chinks get away with calling western fantasy generic? China has 1 setting.
>>25516186It was two days ago, on friday.
>>25516194you were born 2 days ago?
>>25515765>apologies for 12 books>not a sociopathic MC but Western so mostly resides on the opposite end of the spectrum, hence twelve books of apologizing>LindonxYerin being anything but an awkward teenage romance>Dross (the only even remotely comedic thing about Cradle) being funny outside of fans of Joss Wheden's writingCradle is the only xianxia OP has read.
George has made a few changes: >Everyone gets greyscale and dies >Yes, everyone >Even the Others >Even the dragons >Fuck you >The End
>>25511891I get that you're just venting, George. But fuck em. Burn that shit to the fuckin ground bro. Remember when they gave that stupid whore an award because you wouldn't let her lame ass into your party? You need these piggies money or something?
ngl that's a better ending than the TV series had
>>25512410I would honestly have more respect for the fat lazy fuck if he did this.
>>25511891Your pic is very interestesting, OP...I'm interested in it you know
Halloween is just a few days away !!!Post Halloween books !!!
Halloween is certainly NOT a few days away.
>>25514454Pretty sure they meant Orthodox Halloween.
>>25514743So, they had s sad, lonely childhood filled with disappointment and this thread is ultimately just a validation of being disappointed?
Incidents around the house is decent but the ending is a drag with an endless combo of monologues. One of those books where you can clearly see the author's limitations. Had the same impression when I read Between Two Fires. That book really takes a nosedive after they arrive in Rome.Anyway, I did like when the family hired a ghostbuster and he was actually just some lying edgelord wanting to see a cool monster in person
>>25512414>dress up as who you really are.You're not a skeleton
