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What causes this psychology? Books on this?
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>>24868890
Life is too short to waste it on trying to understand retards on the Internet.
Go read books on history or psychology or art.
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>>24868900
back to the sharty
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>>24868890
this is some variation of what's called the whig understanding of history
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>>24868890
Lmao you’re literally crying so hard over your gay ideology being btfo by some random shitposter you had to make a new thread
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>>24868890
Illuminati hence the emphasis on Darwin and science. They have to destroy the past in order to create the new dystopian future.

>no kids
>no one will continue his legacy
its like he didn't read his own book geg
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Why should he care? He'll be dead

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>We don't know what's in Antarctica, there must be demons
>We don't know what's in the Ocean, there must be demons
>We don't know what's in outer space, there must be demons
>We don't know what's in the quantum level, there must be demons

Why do people consider him profound? He's just a sci-fi pulp writer except less convincing because he relies on early 20th century gaps in scientific knowledge.
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>>24867373
>Cthulu is pronounced the same as Kaloolah
Fucking how?
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>>24867373
>William Starbuck Mayo
Stop making up names.
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>>24867146
He is kino
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>>24867349
I'm pretty sure there's fish in the ocean
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>>24867349
God knows.

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Essential dinergoth literature?
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>>24869013
there are plenty of ugly dinergoths
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>>24868981
I knew a girl like this who (almost) took my virginity.
Anyway, she mostly read fantasy books, tumblr comics, and the occasional manga.
I wanted a literate gf even back then and thought it impressive that she read three hours a day. Of course I eventually realized it was all sloppa, but the fantasy of her I built in my head was pleasing for a time.
The last I heard of her, she moved out of our town to an even smaller town with an abusive boyfriend. She probably doesn't read much anymore.
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>>24869013
Just because they live dull, dreary lives, it doesn't mean they'll drop everything to bounce on your dick. And like the other anon said, they're mostly ugly. Why would a hot girl get into alt aesthetics? The few hot goths were usually ugly teens when they got into it and then the style suck.
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>>24868981
Check out the books section at your local Target
>Court of Thorns and Roses
>Those romance novels, you know the ones
>My Hero Academia manga
>I'm Glad My Mom Is Dead
>Wicked
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>>24869026
there are tons of hot alt girls. They're just mentally ill and/or autistic

At what point does Pynchon just further tarnish his reputation and legacy by cranking out these underwhelming mediocrities like Bleeding Edge and Shadow Ticket?

Isn't it better for him not to publish anything than these books which are leagues worse than Vineland, a book that tarnished his reputation and legacy to at least some extent when it was published in 1990?
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>>24867847
He probably just enjoys writing, and getting money to do so is a nice bonus.
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I unironically believe that, right after Against the Day (particularly when it wasn’t greatly received), he watched everyone fanboy and fawn over Cormac McCarthy due to the success of the movie “No Country for Old Men” and that kind of broke him a little bit. He’s been chasing the general popular audience success ever since for his legacy and he just can’t hit it. I think it bothers him that he’s not going to be widely remembered as the GOAT of his generation and thinks McCarthy stole it from him due to his success in movies.
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>>24868937
good analysis, i’m not sure why redditors will get upset about it
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>>24867847
Nothing bad about Shadow Ticket
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>>24867847
Any ideas why it received so poorly?

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How do you get into Hegel?
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>>24867958
No Philosophy Of Nature?
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>>24868004
>uhmmm…anon…thesis-antithesis-synthesis only appears formally in the works of Fichte…have you actually read Hegel or did you just read an AI summary..?
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>>24867803
Yes. He has an entire lecture series on Greek philosophers
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>>24868440
eleventh from the left
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>>24868525
>you've caught me, my dear. however hegel was mediated by the algorithmic Geist. but in proper aristotelian fashion, i’m more interested in the concrete particular in front of me than the universal system behind you...
panty dropper 100%

I feel like I'm getting edged by this book. The slow buildup of suspense and confusion and sense of conspiracy is great.

But I'm now at the point where Oedipa meets some guy in a gay bar that tells her about WASTE mailboxes and the founder of the lonely hearts club that uses them. There are only like 30-40 pages left in the book and I feel like the ending will be an anticlimax or dead end like the guy in the bar.

I guess I get the thematic significance of an ending like that (reminds me of the movie Under the Silver Lake sorta), but man it feels like I just got baited and then left with blue balls.

Thanks for listening to my blog, what do you think anon? Comment in the comments section below
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>>24868542
Why should I care what an author thinks of their own work?
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>>24868542
Yeah, I'm on team pynchon if only because he's forgotten more about literature than everyone on /lit combined ever knew
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>>24868904
because it can help to enrich your understanding of the work
man /lit/ has gone downhill
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I think it is crazy that he hates COL49, although I understand that artists will have a unique relationship with their own work. As a result, it is simultaneously unsurprising.
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>>24867845
I think you ought to finish reading a book before discussing it, especially if it is a shorter book like this one.
Personally, I really enjoyed the book (including the ending). I found it a bit of a slow burn until the play, but after that I couldn't put it down.

Why don't guys like these read Hegel?
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>>24868150
Weakest schopenhauerian of today
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>>24868197
> whether your subjective experience of the world is actually any richer is beside the point.

You could read the entire canon and not at all be any better for it. It’s not a video game to improve your life where you level up after each philosopher
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>>24868205
Yet it remains pay to win.
Genshin Impact is more philosophically relevant than Witcher 3, there's no doubt about it.
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>>24868150
They have surpassed him
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>>24868197
Reading philosophy can often be a strenuous unpleasant discipline, but you are right that people often do it for vain reasons. I struggle through works like Being and Time but I only do so because when I was a teenager I read a bunch of Wikipedia pages about it and took introductory college courses and now I feel I owe it to myself to actually follow through and genuinely try to understand it. I often fail to directly apply the knowledge to real life because it doesn't have any motivating effect (except for Deleuze). It's not written to change your life in some self help way like some anons seem to believe. It can provide a backdrop that can ground your understanding of the world, roughly similar to how Christians view the world through the lens of the Bible, but with less cohesiveness and more critical thinking (sorry Christians).

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>Iliad and Odyssey
>Aeneid
>Theogony
>Metamorphoses
>Argonautica
Is this enough to get the Greek stuff from Part 2?
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>>24865686
You can't, pseud.
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>>24865616
Because the end of it when the angels descend from heaven to bring Faust up to heaven is one of the best parts of the whole thing. Sadly it takes 200 pages to get there.
>>24868248
I'm one of those 20 and I can confirm. I only liked the ending to part 2.
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Fuck OP - what's the best English translation of Faust? For readability and quality, not autism.
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>>24868721
>translation
ich BITTE dich
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>>24868248
And one of them understood it (being Goethe himself)

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Is every character supposed to be weird and insufferable?
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>>24868072
It ain't that bad
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>>24868133
You're infantile
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>>24867848
You're retarded.
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>>24868860
>>24868865
You're coping
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>>24866804
Perhaps he does not consider Satan to be supernatural?

Can a group of fans and anti-fans together destroy an author's reputation, and if so, was the author ever really that good to begin with?

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Post your own work and critique others.
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And why would I, the Agent asked,
Bow down before thy size?
Your masterplan is not so good,
I have seen bigger guys!
If I were to remove your mask,
My care for you'd be none
I'm CIA, and Pavel's mine!
You're captured,
You are done!

And so he spoke,
And so he spoke,
The man from CIA
The plane has crashed,
In halves it broke,

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bump
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>>24824951
based and 5,000 year civilisation pilled
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>>24824368
Poopy-di scoop
Scoop-diddy-whoop
Whoop-di-scoop-di-poop
Poop-di-scoopty
Scoopty-whoop
Whoopity-scoop, whoop-poop
Poop-diddy, whoop-scoop
Poop, poop
Scoop-diddy-whoop
Whoop-diddy-scoop
Whoop-diddy-scoop, poop
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>>24824368
Beauty fades
The amber cage
Falls down to meet your gaze
Temptation took what eternity gave

Your forsworn smile
Judgement in the aisle
To walk this cursed mile
Angel's singing all the while

From Light begot
The Fading Sun
Hallowed eyes weep in doubt
We gather round to be undone

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Do you like to read short stories?
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>>24868661
Not really. I prefer long form novels and poems. I prefer to autistically hyperfocus on one great work rather than read a single short story or a collection of short stories. They're also often very uneven.
I did like some collections tbf, like Melville's. But I prefer his novels.
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>>24868661
Most of the time, no. I want to enjoy them, but most of the time, they fucking suck. It's worse than the situation with books because the barrier to entry is so much lower.
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I probably (re-)read 'Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius' once a month.
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>>24868661
The only thing I short is my cryptocurrency BackraCoin
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>>24868661
Yeah, when I finish a hefty novel I'll read short stories and such as a break, and this year some poetry too. But as far as short stories, I've been plugging away at a huge collection of Donald Barthelme's sporadically, and also really enjoyed Selected Poems from James Tate, which you might call some kind of prose poetry but would also pass as flash fiction (his earlier poetry was comparatively more conventional). Both writers I'd call surrealists, but Barthelme is more of a post-modernist with unconventional narrative structure, while what James Tate wrote feels more like a strange depiction of middle-America around the last half of the 20th century.

My introduction to Tate was from this recording of a reading done by him, which is of work in a style similar to Selected Poems:
https://youtu.be/MPJTXOMHTk4
and his reading of Long Term Memory on this page is perhaps my favourite:
https://www.jamestate.net/readings

Besides those two, and somewhat recently though it's been a little while since I've dug or kept up, I was also reading things published online, in particular from Wigleaf. They do flash fiction. Here are a couple they published that I liked well enough to bookmark:
https://wigleaf.com/202409knock.htm
https://wigleaf.com/202501neighbor.htm
and now here are a few from other magazines:
https://thediagram.com/23_4/siken.html
https://maybemag.xyz/maybe02/kli02
https://www.havehashad.com/hadposts/a-better-future-isn-t-possible

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What books have the bleakest theories on life and the universe. What are the theories?
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>>24868867
>silent assumptions
They're so silent even you can't put them to words
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>>24868876
Do I have to? You're assuming The One is mindless, and produces sentient beings simply because it can. Evidence?
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>>24868927
>assuming The One is mindless
No, I assumed The One is uncaused and unchanging. Mindlessness proceeds from that
>produces sentient beings
That is evidenced from the fact that you exist
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>>24868939
So you admit your assumptions, even though you denied them earlier.
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>>24868944
I stated my assumptions
>An unchanging uncaused cause
You claimed I made further silent assumptions. You still have yet to show any

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We should follow Mark Fisher. He seems smart.
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>>24863944
>when exactly joy division became mainstream?. not in his time.
There's a reason for that. Dying young is always a good career move.
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Gee no wonder this dude hung himself.
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>>24863777
Fisher is only interesting for his music musings. His take on Sonic Youth was incredibly bad though.
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>>24864414
What did he mean by that?
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>>24863777
The hell is he talking about? They literally grew up in 1970s Manchester.


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