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I need to understand the Tractatus, understand what mistakes he found in it later in life and understand his thoughts on the philosophy of mathematics. Recommend me books on those subjects that are as straightfoward as possible. Thanks.
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>>25337475
Wait a minute, how do we know that Wittgenstein's isn't a case of The Emperor Has No Clothes? After all, he's only famous because he was endorsed by Bertrand Russell, but Wittgenstein himself said that Russell completely misunderstood him. So what value does Russell's endorsement have if he didn't even understand it (probably because it made no sense)? This could be another case of "privilege" where everybody is slobbering over the eccentric billionaire's &C^*S in order to get a piece of his fortune, an endowed chair, a stipend, and so on. He was known to give money to folks like Rilke, after all.

I declare it now: THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES and you are fools to be slobbering over his &C^*S with no chance even of receiving a stipend.
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>>25350193
>he'd personally pursue this ontologically and seek a state of being that transcends the limits of epistemology: become a Christian Saint, or a Buddhist Buddhavista, or some mode of being that proves his point.
Because different contexts don't escape language, just reconfigure where its value is directed.
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>>25350357
find the Logos then.
Apophatically if you must as a human being.
You have your moral imperative, find a means/praxis and show us.
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>>25350357
see Hesychasm/stillness/kenosis when it comes to praxis
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>>25344052
he was contemporary to Godel you faggot, of course he's talking about the same shit he did.

Let's stop fucking around: How the fuck can we write the 'Great Zoomer Novel'? Do we even have concrete requirements or any details on what it would look like?
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>>25349478
Why do anything at all then?
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>>25348079
the alpha novel starts like this
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>>25348079
continues like this
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>>25348079
this scene next
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>>25348079
then this is the ending

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What’s a “literature”?
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>>25350169
A word that chud would use to seem smart.

Now that it is officially over, what's your plan for surviving the post-literate world?
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>>25348164
Should be an IQ test to be eligible to vote. Make it 500 questions long so it just automatically filters anybody with a microscopic attention span.
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>>25348463
Those are piss easy lmao! I spent more time reading and going to the skatepark than I did on undergrad math homework. You might just be dumb.
>t. Math PhD
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>>25347955
The sad thing is that academics hardly have time to sit down and read books for hours. You might have three or four books that you are reading deeply and everything else is skimming, only seriously reading some chapters now and then. That's one reason why academia is bullshit and if you simply like to read and learn you should do any other job and read and learn in your free time. Academics aren't sitting around in a comfy armchair reading for 8 hours a day, they have no more time for that sort of reflective reading than anyone else if not less. The bit in the Theaetetus about the lawcourts describes academia well. I have a few academic/professor friends and I don't envy them at all. One of them, an associate English professor, straight up told me he wishes he could just "run a boat on the Mississippi or something" and read rather than deal with all the shit he has to to maintain a not-even-decent living as an academic. Imagine if everything you read had to be turned into some sort of controversial Paper or else you won't be able to pay your rent.
>>2534817
>muh selection
Yeah sure the entire human genepool has changed in the last two centuries you retard. Thinking of human reality in terms of evolution/genes is always a sign of a midwit.
>But it's way more acceptable to be a muslim immigrant who rapes schoolchildren than a NEET
You spend so much time on 4chan that you have become delusional. Go outside and talk to an immigrant. I had a great conversation with one just yesterday who is studying to be an architect, we talked about the similarities between philosophy and architecture. You would look at someone like her and all you would be able to think would be 'I bet the average IQ of her country is like 88 maximum'.
> It's probably why 4chan was never taken down, you need that place where the school shooters and chuds gather to do badwrong things
No it's a wacky imageboard with a shifting culture that mostly sucks but is still better than reddit. You are a newfag and 4chan is not your fascist hugbox.
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>>25349931
Was meant to be replying to >>25348174
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>>25336844
I read harvard had already changed their text books to better fit today's zeitgeist. I took an economics course there last year and and they had change out all the text to femslop rape porn and then had formulas and diagrams on the side.

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post you're battlestation
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>>25346448
you ugly XD
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>>25347603
>nothing but foidslop
kindle is for women. men use kobos.
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>>25349868
Is this a true detective quote?
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>>25350156
yep
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>>25350152
It is AI

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I’ve read a few Can Xue stories, and now I’m curious what the current landscape of Chinese literature is like. Anyone here know what it’s like and what authors are making a big impact currently? Any big cities with a large literary scene?
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Literature is dead in China, if anything, all non-STEM subjects are dead in China.
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>>25349815
Surely an anonymous retard's opinion on 1.5 billion people is reputable
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>>25349785
Chinese literature is a bit of a closed ecosystem and little of it gets translated. So if we just look at what you can read in English, the big dogs of the previous generation still have some sway: Mo Yan, Yu Hua, Yan Lianke and Can Xue. There are younger authors who are getting translated, like Shuang Xuetao, and the translator of his books, Jeremy Tiang, is someone to keep an eye on. A good site for information and news about Chinese literature in translation of all different kinds is:
https://paper-republic.org/

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Total page count of some Japanese novels:
>8,446: Spice and Wolf
>9,568: Re:Zero
>12,160: Monogatari
>15,565: Sword Art Online
>18,524: A Certain Magical Index (This doesn't include Railgun/Accelerator)
>24,671: Toaru Series (Includes A Certain Magical Index, Railgun, Accelerator and more)
>30,051: Horizon in the Middle of Nowhere
>48,307: Kawakami Verse (Including Horizon, Owari no Chronicle, City Series, and more)
>54,802: Guin Saga
This is insane…
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>>25348428
*retards
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>>25348326
weebnovels, maybe
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>>25348428
These are all novels, you fucking moron.
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They probably get paid for it.
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>>25350255
They get paid in used panties from vending machines.

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>the impressionable teenage girls that were obsessed with the shitty book during its heyday are now close to or in their 30s
Wow where does the time go. What shitty YA book is all the rage with the current generation of thots that annoy you now? Are YA novels even good money makers with them anymore since this gen is more likely to latch onto shitty trends and other brainrot they see on their socials?
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>>25349319
Zoomers don't read and gen alpha can't read.
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the little girls who would be reading this are scrolling through 20 short form videos a minute
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>>25349320
>>25349321
>>25349346
Can confirm, I work in a library that isn't near a college and teenagers or young adults NEVER visit
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I see ads for dark romance on the subway walls. Also steampunk high fantasy. Kids will read kid stuff. It’s funny to get annoyed by it.
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>>25349319
>What shitty YA book is all the rage with the current generation of thots that annoy you now?
Anons hated that book because it was the first novel that got popular simply because the guy was a youtuber.
But to answer your question, I really don't get the hype around YA crime novels.
They lack the punchiness of YA, they are just... whimsical.
>Are YA novels even good money makers
No. These days adult fiction is all the craze.

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Title
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>>25348628
Repackage peak endlessly, New perspectives and all, stack them
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>>25348628
More like Christian esoterism in effect
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>>25350125
I'm sorry to say, anon, but that is also just repackaged neoplatonism.
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>>25350146
Yeah but repackaged in a based way NIGGER
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Sam buntz

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Whats some of your favorite center right literature? I’m trying to strengthen my library.
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>>25350115
*Across
*owning

(Hopped up on caffein atm)
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>>25350115
The pinkertons without the state have no power, you can just shoot them on personal defense principles

The monopoly of violence from which all other monopolies arise is held by the state.
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>>25350121
>The pinkertons without the state have no power,
Originally hired with private money, they have no power without the state? This is why I mention the cops. And The 2nd Amendment also forbids the secret services and all the standing armies. A real shame we didn't shoot them all. The power of money corrupted them so much.
State-capitalism is the worst.
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>>25350037
The idea of multiproperty, as for example, a public company with shareholders but also on a general example like yours, is indeed a very controversial topic among austrian economists.
I don’t see why this is the case at all. For multiproperty that is. I think it adequately answers Locke’s labor mixing requirement for acquisition. I personally define homesteading as “incorporating into an agent’s ongoing project” because of the various problems with labor mixing. My problem with publicly traded companies is that they are fundamentally creatures of the state and the “nexus of contract” explanation can’t provide limited liability nor explain how corporations arise by such a method if currently a board of directors arise first, incorporate, who then go off to sell shares, all while operating under the delusion the shareholders somehow own the corporation, when it seems more like to me corporate property exists almost in this third space akin to medieval church property.
> In the case you considered, I'd say the path remains unowned, as there was no engineering of the action,
By engineering of action, do you mean conscious acquisitional frame of mind? Like you need to intend to acquire something? For the most part, it won’t be possible to literally know what’s going on in their. In my opinion, the next best option is judging by what a reasonable observer would interpret the homesteader’s action as? I think, that the villages pounding through the trail for weeks, months, years, there is a definite sense that access to the path is a right granted to any of the villagers in the community. I don’t see why you need to have a frame of mind that says “I need to own this” to acquire property, but framing it “I need to use this every Monday indefinitely” is insufficient. Why is time indexed use not allowed to acquire a property interest?
> You could technically set up a booth, but you would find that the villagers sidestep it making your investment come at a complete loss, with the added risk of the villagers ostracising you from the community for being an ass
So someone from a separate village on the other side of the lake, a person who expended no labor to the trail’s creation, has never used the trail, makes their way over to the trail and is able to set up shop and prevent access to the lake by the trail laboriously created by the original villagers? This appears ethical to you?
> But ideally such a libertarian society would be organized trough private cities (Hoppe makes a good case for it) as such these matters would be handled by the city
I’m a left-libertarian, I know. I’ve yet to read his Democracy: The God that Failed, and I plan in reading that along with Elinor’s Ostrom’s Governing the Commons see if she answers some of Hoppe’s objections (Hoppe’s critique, from what I’ve gathered, seems to apply for toward top-down representative democracy instead of a bottom-up commonly managed firm)
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>>25348974
>If your opinion comes from 15 minutes of analysis maybe it's not the most educated and it might be too early to classify yourself as X category
The fiscal situation, which is the only thing I meant to fall under the 15 minute thing, is "a crazy guy is about to rape your daughter" tier unambiguous and immediate. The facts do not leave room for subtlety. We do not have the money or potential tax base to expand or even maintain the welfare state.

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>anything beyond bare survival is cope surrogate activity because... it just IS, ok?
>I'm allowed to kill people because... I'm just RIGHT, ok?
>the left are all, like, pussies who love blacks because they hate themselves, and Marxists hate your freedom.
I was expecting more from someone with an IQ of 165, I really was.
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No one's perfect. A rightwinger who broke from the partisanship.
Like he understood a piece of this "over socialization" thing, but people aren't revolting against the minions of Epstein because collectivism has been shot in the head and we all live online Matrix-like. We're UNDER socialized.

Right about a lot of things though. Killing people a publicity stunt? Whatever man.
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>>25350062
It‘s been a while since I‘ve read ISAIF but I don‘t know why you listed three objectively correct statements to disavow it.
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>>25350077
>like he understood a piece of this "over socialization" thing
Well that's the problem, it's just halfbaked opinions strung together with some gratuitious psychologizing of leftists, which is odd considering that right-wing libertarians are at least as threatening to his primitivist views as leftists are. He doesn't give us any sort of theory of man or society that would explain why he thinks anything beyond survival is cope and he doesn't engage with any other thinkers. You can tell it was written by a STEMoid. The entire manifesto is simply:
>I think X. Here are many things that follow from X. Here are some other opinions that have nothing to do with X.
I've seen posts here that were more intelligent and yet there's this mythology that this guy who couldn't write, couldn't think, and could barely even make a pipebomb was some sort of Gigabrain.
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>>25350094
>You can tell it was written by a STEMoid
True true.
Why I advocate direct democracy all the time. Minds like this would be good to listen to, but balance out with the more rational and the more poetic minds of the community.
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>>25350062
>anything beyond bare survival is cope surrogate activity because... it just IS, ok?
it doesn't take much intelligence to understand that in a world where survival is an uncertain necessity every action you take is immediately important, and therefore meaningful. when these actions become unnecessary and therefore unimportant, basic biologically conditioned meaning falls away also. where Kaczynski is mistaken is in assuming that civilisation does not (at least in theory) offer higher forms of meaning and satisfaction. it does. and it also enables the existence of countless millions of unfit people who would die basically instantly in an anarcho-primitivist world.
kaczynski's thinking on this issue is not flawed, the only thing he is missing are certain valuable starting premises the absence of which causes him to reach the conclusion that anarcho-primitivism is the path forward.

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>you literally have one attempt at life and then it's over

Any books that deal with this issue?
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>>25348650
Schopenhauer, as always
Tolstoy, especially Ivan Ilyich and My Confession
The Bible
Nietzsche maybe
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>>25349824
it is meaningless, you just have to learn to go post meaning
so it’s meaningless - what does that mean for your life? is the answer really stasis? why do nothing over something?
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>>25349949
Dilate, obliviontard.
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>>25348650
Any time I get those thoughts it helps to think about people younger than you who died completely preventable deaths only done from their own stupidity. It helps to say like “at least you are not this guy. You have an entire life ahead of you this idiot refused himself of his own accord.” The people forcibly drafted to fight for Kiev as kids (18-20 are kids basically) I always turn to when I get these thoughts. Fighting for separatist oblasts most of them never even set foot in before.
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>no book about aging noir detective thinking about missed highschool oneitis love

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Okay unironically WHAT is this nigga even trying to say
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>>25348133
Just go straight into the Leviathan, honestly. I don't think most people read more of him than that. It's not hard to read. Get the Norton Critical edition if you want a version with modern spelling and grammar.
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>>25349160
Well him and Husserl are gonna get more relevant as people start synthesizing those philosophies into what was already known theologically as Palamism: what happens if you as a person teleologically follow Christ's Phenomenology to its logical ontological conclusion? The ethical goal here is to existentially become Godlike: see reality through His Eyes (Theoria).
Epistemically, Ontologically, and Ethically our goal is to become Godmen/Saints like Christ so that we can see the nature of things as God intended.
Kierkegaard called it a "Knight of Faith".
The Orthodox have called it a "Fool for Christ".
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>>25350124
>Kierkegaard called it a "Knight of Faith".
>The Orthodox have called it a "Fool for Christ".
But these concepts are not the same at all. Kierkegaard is writing about someone who has transcended the universal ("the law" of Paul) by faith and how this is necessarily a paradoxical affirmation of the particular standing in an absolute relation to the absolute. It's using a criticism of Hegelian dialectics to make sense of what faith means and how Christianity has solved the problems that have bedeviled the idealists ever since Kant said that we can never know whether even a single action of ours is genuinely moral. A 'fool for Christ' is someone who pretends to be retarded or crazy as an act of humility with a side of kek. Posts like yours depress the shit out of me, it's like you're just stringing words together. I doubt you've ever even read Husserl and I'm positive you haven't read Kierkegaard. (No, letting your eyes pass over the words one time does not count as reading especially in philosophy). Most of the ostensible 'effortposts' on /lit/ these days are either like yours, pretentious drivel and namedropping with no comprehension, or they are schizophrenics. The dark age is here.
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>>25350137
Which Christian Theology? Kierkegaard only knew of Western Theology which dogmatically rejected ontological realism and promoted nominalistic/scholastic theology. So Christianity here isn't monolithic to avoid category distinctions.
This was highlighted by theologians like Justin Popovic who pointed out the theological poverty of Western Theology and how it lead to secularized philosophy as a reaction to "rectify" it.
I highly his essay on how sincerely Dostoyevsky viewed Western Europe very unflatteringly and effectively doomed to nihilism.
https://www.scribd.com/document/514173708/St-Justin-Popovic-Dostoevsky-on-Europe-and-Slovenia-Slavism
I can argue with you till the cows come home but the reality is you guys are royally fucked: Western Philosophy is a dead end and Western Theology is so weak it turns people into atheists.
You guys painted yourselves into a corner and are too prideful/"Faustian" to admit it.
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>>25350176
>Western Theology is so weak it turns people into atheists
The Catholic Church is an NGO with religious aesthetics (even has its own usury bank!).
The Protestants are a cargo cult of Christianity (gullible enough to worship modern jews).
where's the lie here guys?
what are we doing?
how long we gonna pretend the Eastern Orthodox Christians weren't right about everything?
Their reward was dumping communism on them... thanks brothers o7

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Ive just sent all the 10 LOGH books to my kindle. What am i in for?
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>>25349998
Thank you for agreeing with me.
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>>25349887
>What am i in for?
Probably not reading it.
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the anime was better, and more or less faithfully adapted everything anyway
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>>25349887
THE SPINOFF
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>>25349998
Yeah, that's the show with the "smart" One Tactic Man protagonist. He managed to figure out that the rival's combat style relies on always committing to the first blow but no one was able to figure out that all they had to do to counter MC-kun's single tactic was to inspect the ground. Check to see if it'll explode or sink or whatever. He has one plan.

>"goodbye"
formal farewell

>"bye"
blunt conclusion

>"bye bye"
parting with children

>"buhbye"
non-cringe way of ending phone calls

>"byyyeee"
was pleasant and hope to see you again soon
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toodaloo
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For me, it's g'bye.
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>>25348394
>"see you later, alligator"
must be followed up with
>"in a while, crocodile"
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>>25348394
>>"buhbye"
>non-cringe way of ending phone calls
I would cringe if you said this to me
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>>25349267
It sounds like "b'bye", not "buh bye". The latter is cringe, yeah, former isn't.


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