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Is there any author who wrote both literary and genre fiction?

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>>6608851
>ubiquity
Literarure = art.
I think we can all discern what isn't art, what's borderline, and what attempts to be, by a reasonable man.
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Doris Lessing
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>>6608802
John Banville

No idea if it's good though. I've never read him.
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>>6608851
>Guy's my porn novels with Knights fucking she ogres is just as good as Ulysses why can't we all talk about it?
>You can't label books man thats fascism
>I'm sorry my furry fanfic doesn't fall into your autistically stringent definition of "literature"
This is what you sound like. Do you want this board to attract reddit neckbeards?
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>>6608931
That joke under the book title.
> Mai sides.

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>tfw you're one of the smartest men to ever live
>tfw you singlehandedly end postmodernism
>tfw you show everyone how to write passionately moral fiction
>tfw you slay audience pussy
>tfw you will be remembered forever
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Incessant Meme
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DFW was shunned by Bloom and thus lost his literary immortality. At best IJ will have a moderate cult-following.
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>>6608909
What is this lol, did you write a book anon, Tundra v. 4?
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>>6608922
Bloom is an old man who values his opinion above what is considered appropriate. He's a MEME.
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the meme never ends, thats the point

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What font should I use for my self-published book?

I was thinking this, but I want to know what you guys like.
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>>6608180
Adobe Hebrew.
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>>6608200
oy vey
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If that's it, it's lacking glyphs, italics, bold, small caps, etc.
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>>6608180
I write in Times New Roman with 11 sized font for the first draft, edit it in 12 and finalize it with 14.
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>>6608200
>>6608255
dubs confirm

I'm going to do something bad.

I've fallen behind on a lot of my work this term, I'm rushing to meet deadlines before I break up for summer.

I'm beginning to completed loose motivation, I'm willing to pay for a leg up.

Have you read Jean Baudrillard's Simulacra and Simulation, and written a well-marked essay on it?

If you we're to email me it, I'd put £10-£40 in your paypal account, depending on the content/length. I'm not asking you to write anything new.

I'm being genuine and honest, but, it'll have to be worth the money.

I know this is terrible, but, I'm tired. If it cuts down the time I need to spend working, I'll take it. I've still got other work to do.
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>>6608894
It's a short read, you dense cunt
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>>6608894
B-but OP you have already made a similar thread

I want to know more about religions from an objective point of view without actually having to read the Bible, Quran and so on. Something that would compare how different religions take on various concepts like afterlife etc. Any recommendations?
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>>6608898
>from an objective point of view
>objective point of view
>objective
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>>6608898
Yeah it's all Egyptian. But really it goes back to Atlantis. God and Christ are real too ;-)

Hard mode: post
Nightmare mode: if someone asks you why, you have to explain
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>>6603073
I liked The Big Sleep so much it led to a few years of reading lots of noir/hardboiled fiction. Unfortunately, few of the writers in the genre are as good as Chandler. Wish I'd realised that earlier.
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>>6605577
Why?
But really, though
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>>6605577
Why would I fight somebody who has already done the worst to themselves?
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>>6604569
>>>/lgbt/
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>>6607490
i approve of lexi-posting

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Are there any fantasy books out there written in a futuristic setting? Where guns/machinery/robots are all driven by magic or spells?
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>>6602962
Warhammer 40k
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The Iron Dragons Daughter by Michel Swanswick
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Yes, for example the book I wrote.
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>>6602962
Dune.
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>>6605883
Why?

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Can you guys recommend me a comfy portable chair to take with me while hiking, so when I find a nice spot I can read?
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>>6608844
>I want to go to a beautiful spot so I can sit down and stare at the paper in my lap
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>>6608844
ur mom's ass lmao
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>>6608844
Find one that comes with a pair of balls so you can make your own decisions you pathetic shit
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Jesus fuck just go to wal mart

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Why aren't you writing some young adult fantasy novel which heavily lends from established proven gimmicks?

Sure you could write a reasonable good novel by critical standards, but it wouldn't sell or might not even get published.

Or would you rather forsake that ambition to work at some shitty factory job for the next fifty years.
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I'd need proof you can actually pull it off from a cynical starting point. It seems like most of the people making bank believe what they're saying to some extent.
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>>6608826
>It seems like most of the people making bank believe what they're saying to some extent.
Well, not sure what you're trying to say but I would actually try to write it whole heartedly -- pride is a difficult thing to forsake wholly even when faced with relative poverty.
The only difference between what I really want to write is that it won't be in a semi-realistic setting but fantasy or pseudo-sci-fi and the themes would be watered down for YAs.
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haven't dismissed it as an option. got a story on the backburner right now about a housewife's transdimensional adventure -- tropes taken from YA, and story arcs lifted from the Preacher comics so it's still fun for me.

I'll let you guys know when I get rich.
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Apparently there exist but two career paths for a youth in contemporary western society:

1. write a young adult fantasy novel.

2. gain employment in a factory for exactly fifty years.

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>procedes

Is this a word?
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>>6608852
Proceeds. Procedures. Pro-kill-yourself.
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>>6608872

Those are completely different words that mean totally different things. What are you trying to convey here.

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Can we get a /lit/ themed wallpaper thread going without anything from film adaptations?
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>>6608854
>>>/wg/

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Any Filipinos in here?
What's your favorite book?
What's your opinion on the severe decline of literature in our country?
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>>6606961
Not surprising. Filipino authors, no matter how good they are, don't really get popular. It's upsetting to see Filipino lit in this country because good books are pushed aside for YA novels straight from fanfiction sites.
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>>6606981
>Filipino authors, no matter how good they are, don't really get popular.

Because none are good.
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>>6606831
We call you fillinegro in the states.
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The country's most important novel, politically, was written in Spanish by José Rizal. What's being done in Tagalog? Nothing. Good Filipino writers are publishing in English.
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>>6608832
>>6606831

I did not know there was Filipino lit. Who would you recommend?

I am reading more and more of this man’s work and, the more I read, the more he seems to become one of the greatest writers of all time.

I was interested in knowing more about him. Can you guys point out some good biographies and critic studies?

Also: Chekhov general.
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>>6608723
chekh 'em
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>>6608723

I learn recently that he was quite a ladies man:

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/mar/01/anton-chekhov-lifetime-lovers-play
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>>6608723

I got two tickets to the Chekhov's Gun show
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>>6608783
Well yeah, he's one handsome motherfucker. Probably gets my vote for one of the most attractive famous authors.
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>>6608811
>66
>88
>11
Chekh'd

Please, I want some help with this book: tell me why do you guys like it; what are the best things in it; quote some beautiful excerpts; explain the merits that are modeled on its pages; expose to me some of the best moments of the book; suggest some critical guides and good criticism, etc.

I am not a lazy reader: I have read the major works of Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, almost all the plays of Shakespeare, Ulysses, the Homeric epics, and other classics, and yet this one book, Dom Quixote, I cant for the life of me advance in its pages.

The work seems to be extremely archaic, written in a peasant style of language that hurts my senses (it's like something written by a poor and humble fellow who has lived on a hut in a small village for all his life, reading only the Bible and some few simple books). Yes, I understand that there is a beautiful sadness in the tale of this old man who refuses to see life as it is and sculpts the cloudy flesh of his dreams upon the dry and thorny bones of reality: we all can identify with that, and it is a noble theme. But, my god, the book just seems to drag in a lot of episodes of crude violence and old and evil humor (the kind of primitive humor of people who laugh by seeing others suffer), and all weaved in that dusty and archaic language.

It's difficult to imagine that Cervantes and Shakespeare are contemporaries, so different is their uses of the arts of language. Shakespeare seems to be a educated and cosmopolite writer, and Cervantes, like I already mentioned, some humble farmer.

And yet, despite all of this, I know that I am the one who is wrong: Dom Quixote has long been established as a masterpiece and one of the supreme achievements of the human mind and soul. I must be blind to its beauties; I must not be reading it correctly.

Please, help me with this work: what makes it great?
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>>6607725
I like this part (sorry for Wordsworth Classics translation):

>"To think the affairs of this life are always to remain in the same state is an erroneous fallacy. The face of things rather seems continually to change and roll with circular motion; summer succeeds the spring, autumn the summer, winter the autumn, and then spring again; so time proceeds in this eternal round; only the life of man is ever hastening to its end, swifter than time itself, without hopes to be renewed unless in the next, that is unlimited and infinite."

One of the great things that many people see in Cervantes is the same as what they see in Montaigne, Virgil and Shakespeare: they are writers who are generally very humane and who also hold forth on a huge range of subjects that is not matched by writers who also have a great deal of feeling for humanity (Chekhov and Carver, for example). Dante and Homer, even, do not have this same range of subjects. This is clear in Don Quixote in the chapters called some variant of "The instructions Whihc Don Quixote gave Sancho Pança, before he went to the government of his Island, with other matters of moment". A chapter which contains moralistic general advice such as "let the tears of the poor find more compassion, though not more justice, than the informations of the rich": the book is full of pieces of sane, kind advice such as this, that's why it's referred to as the "Spanish testament" or some variant of that.
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>>6608039
This is, I must say, only one thing that makes the work great: the meta-functionality of the latter half (jnclusion of the author himself in the work and the reactions of the people in the novel to Quixote in the second half informed by what they have read f the first book) the creation of the "two equal companions" in literature - although this is of course done in earlier works (Achilles and Patroklus, Sir Tristram and Sir Dinadan, Aeneas and Achatës' Roland and his friend (Oliver?)) but is done best in Quixote - and also, somewhat obviously, the creation of the characters of Quixote and Pança.
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>>6607725
>Yes, I understand that there is a beautiful sadness in the tale of this old man who refuses to see life as it is and sculpts the cloudy flesh of his dreams upon the dry and thorny bones of reality

what are you doing
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>>6608039

Thank you for that.

I was suspecting that humanity was one of the main features of the work, and I agree with you that Homer and Dante, although sublime poets and great writers, seem to lack the same thing that Montaigne and Shakespeare transpire on their works (and also Joyce in Ulysses – to me the greatest thing in this novel is the portrait of humanity, especially the kindness, the understanding and the resigned acceptance of life that we find in the character of Bloom); however there is so much cruelty and crudeness in Quixote, so many scenes that apparently were written to please some old and uneducated audience… I guess I will simply need to stomach those things.

>>6608083

Sorry for the purple style of that sentence. Sorry for the purple style of that sentence. I really wrote the first thing that crawled to my mind and did not care to think if it was ridiculous or not.
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>>6607725

bump

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What does /lit/ think of the Quran?

I live in Massachusetts (I'm white) but am seriously considering converting to Sunni Islam.

They seem to have a lot of answers.
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Incoherent ravings of a doom prophet
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>>6606095
DECENT

BRITISH

TERRORISTS
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>>6606761

It doesn't say that Mary is part of the trinity, it merely says that she is worshipped by some christians.

>>6606771

>It also says Christ didn't die on the cross, but he was replaced with some one else

It doesnt, that story is apocryphal. The Qur'an says only that jesus didn't die on the cross but actually ascended alive to heaven, and that it only seemed to the observers that he died.

-t. Someone who actually read multiple translations of the Qur'an
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>>6606081
>seriously considering converting to Sunni Islam
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>>6606081
Bong Mudslime here. Shit's restricting me from doing shit and I'm often uncomfortable when people speak about it. That's purely on me though. I respect Muslims but I wanna leave the religion.


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