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Recently saw a thread about this one and was surprised to see that they were already selling it in a bookstore that I like to go to, even though it is supposed to release somewhere in September or something. I’ve read a fairly significant chunk of it so far (~170 pages of the 261) and it is quite intriguing. I was particularly surprised about a passage about how biological sex affects gender identity, going against the orthodox beliefs about trans people that is practically infallible in most liberal circles today.

If anyone is interested in seeing some pages I’ll gladly post some.
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>>25472843
No problem anon. He does mention in the passage I posted that he wrote a book about it so maybe that’s worth checking out if you’re interested.
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>>25472652
>fuk ya hamas
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Fukuyama talking about BAP. Didn’t expect this one lmfao
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>>25471056
Whoa amazing thread thanks anon !

>>25473115
Complete TRUTH NVKE. Most zoomers who've shifted right recently did so because they were tired of leftist moral puritanism. A similar process takes place with a lot of econ and tech grads, who seem to think that the world is theirs by virtue of being logical autists.
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>>25473115
I don't think Yarvin actually cares about pronoun people since he has gone on record saying that some people in the hypothetical new regime will be trannies. It is more so that he is sickened by progressives trying to intrude upon conservatives and impose their culture on the world. He also thinks that democracy as a system heavily incentivizes really sordid behaviors and feedback loops that are detrimental for the health of the nation.
But who am I kidding. Nobody wants to actually read him. They just need a named enemy to be afraid of (Yarvin also talks about this somewhere).
If only you knew how bad things really were.

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How to focus while reading if you have ADHD?
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>>25471545
Which can get re-routed with behavioral therapy
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>>25458779
This OMG so much THIS
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My weakness is I read the words, get the obvious meaning but neglect subtext. E.g. was reading Napoleon's letters, and I didn't pick up how clingy he can be to Josephine. I blame lack of experience: I am too using too much brain power reading the words and not processing what they mean
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>>25458779
>pharmaceutical companies invented it
ftfy
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Read more. Your brain gets good at it again.

How on earth is this so popular?
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>>25470660
american apocalypse by kurt schlichter is the best post millennium printed book
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>>25471138
Is Conan the Barbarian also unrelatable to you because he's already buff and strong? All of this happens at the beginning of the book.
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>>25470660
If shallow power fantasies are all men are willing to read perhaps the industry was right to stop publishing books for them
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>>25469463
my manager described it as a book written for people who haven't read a book in 10 years and it made a lot of sense
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>>25472365
That describes most popular books published in the last 15 years, sadly.

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What does /lit/ think of the Enders game sequels?
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>>25473065
Enjoyed the first two. The second two got too far into Mormon ideology and metaphysical crap that didn't fit the established narrative. Motherfucker used literal wish fulfillment with the 'outside' being used to cure the descolada. Then the whole thing with young Valentine was frankly disgusting and completely contradicted the whole thesis of knowing and caring about each other deeply.
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>>25473065
The shadow series was better and Peter makes the superior protagonist.
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Only read the first 2 books. They were ok.
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>>25473065
Speaker for the Dead was very good, but I didn't read any further after that.
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>>25473358
Agreed on both accounts. Ender is kind of a Mary Sue and is only interesting because of the situation he's put in. Peter and Bean are infinitely more interesting because they have actual bad qualities of character that they have to overcome to reach their goals. While Ender is just crying in the corner about being *too* empathic while also having the capacity for harm that he only ever exercises in understandable situations or in complete obliviousness as to what's actually happening.

I was blown away by this thrilling and touching tale of perseverance in the face of systemic racism. Can't wait to see what this exciting young author has in store for us next!
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>>25472896
Yeah, it's plain that he wasn't buying his own lies as some people have suggested, he clearly knew it was just a matter of time before he got found out and was desperately trying to avoid getting jangused. Pretty ineffectual scheme but it's not like a better one readily suggests itself to me either.
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>>25473135
>I don’t get it.
Bostrom and Scott are also Jewish. Does that help?
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It's sad that that child who existed in that moment of having his photo taken is now in Hell and will suffer there forever experiencing infinite suffering
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Thousands attended his wake in London's Trafalgar Square, standing up for the witch hunt led against him by far-right journalists, politicians and other extremists.
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>>25473425
It is despicable that the left is trying to lay Arday's act of cowardice at Cofnas' feet. It's worthy of more than shame. Soon enough, this will turn into calls for violence. He's already been attacked at the University of Ghent before. And Belgian authorities are unwilling to reach out with more than an elbow.

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Are there any philosophical books/treatises that could be labeled as being "punk"? What I mean by that is that they generally follow the beats of an ordinary philosophical treatise but are full of cussing and swear words and reach conclusions that are unpalatable to mainstream audience. Something like Anti-Oedipus or Fanged Noumena
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>>25472783
can't tell if stoned or brown
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ive never really understood what punk is as people just give whatever answer they feel like it should be. they also moralise it a lot like "if you wanna be punk you gotta believe X thing, b-but you can NEVER EVER believe Y thing!!!!"

i think punk needs to be a complete rejection of idealism, meaning, purpose, metaphysics and the whole lot. so just embracing nihilism, absurdity and hedonism. maybe someone like Max Stirner and Marquis de Sade are emblematic of punk.
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oh my SCIENCE how heckin punk
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>>25473503
Punk was just weirdo teens that gravitated around a subculture of dissaffected bands that played shitty music. When I was growing up it was also a battlefield between skinheads and antifa faggots at gigs.
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>>25471617
may we read it?

Post books for self-teaching for absolute beginners in any subject.

https://archive.org/details/conversationsonc01ostwrich
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Latin
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>>25473280
Along with this to get grammar concepts
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Bump for curiosity
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>>25473266
You guys got anything interesting on nursing and basic medicine? I'd have no clue what to do on my own if I had to take care of an ailing family member for example.

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>a first person video game in which you are an Athenian citizen in the agora
>you go around talking to philosophers and Platonian figures like Gorgias about philosophy
>It integrates with your microphone and uses a local AI model to argue with you realistically
>you win by convincing people of your system of philosophy
>Final boss is Socrates
Would this be based or cringe?

Why didn't you tell me that learning math was an important part of being /lit/ years ago? Learning it is such a lenghty process.
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>>25472258
>>25472262
lol faggot
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>>25471593
Godel's Incompleteness Theorem states that any mathematical grammar can never express all mathematical truths.
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>>25472582
What a fine börd.
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>>25472262
Lmafo
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>>25469420
> AOPS Prealgebra AOPS Introduction to Algebra
Or you could just replace these with Tyler Wallace’s beginning and intermediate algebra

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I don't really like poetry like the Iliad and the Odyssey, boring shit about military shit nobody cares about
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>>25473315
it was the same situation for me. I liked Sophocles, Herodotus, Aristotle, Plato
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>>25473315
Are you reading the Wilson translation ? that ones sanitized shit. Doesn't matter what translation it is, the story will move at the same pace but you might find a specific version more engaging to read.
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>>25473289
>t.12
>>25473315
>t.heraclitus
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>>25473315
>I love the classic plays, the histories, the philosophical dialogues etc.
None of this is poetry. Which Greek poets do you like
>>25473339
>Sophocles, Herodotus, Aristotle, Plato
None of them are poets.
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>>25473270
>I don't really like poetry
Read the prose translations, then.

Tell me, oh Muse, of that ingenious hero who travelled far and wide after he had sacked the famous town of Troy.

Many cities did he visit, and many were the nations with whose manners and customs he was acquainted; moreover he suffered much by sea while trying to save his own life and bring his men safely home; but do what he might he could not save his men, for they perished through their own sheer folly in eating the cattle of the Sun-god Hyperion; so the god prevented them from ever reaching home.

Tell me, too, about all these things, oh daughter of Jove, from whatsoever source you may know them.

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A lot of late-european philosophy stops being very interesting and mysterious once you take the time to ask a very mundane question: What state of affairs does this person prefer? Here, elaborate metaphysics, theories of history, liberation, authenticity, flourishing, emancipation, reconciliation and so forth terminate in something very mundane and animalistic: people should be less miserable, less frustrated, less vonstrained, more fulfilled, more capable of gratifying their desires, less pain, nore pleasure. Different philosophers may disagree about superficial things, construct alien-seeming systems which nevertheless have a very recognizable end which one can even see in domesticated animals.
Some, like Nietzsche, go the other way and affirm pain and suffering, but they eitger do not last long or suffer the same fate as David Lindsay's green corpuscles: all their striving and ideas get reinterpreted, repurposed to serve pleasure.
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>>25473296
>the boss class are explicitly trying to create a labour force without the capacity to know desire.
The proletarians are the primary consumers of today. If they had no desire, then no money. You are retarded and need to read other authors like Sklar or Kondylis.
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>>25473296
Nigga pussy dustin hoffman
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I like when my dick feels good.
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>>25473443
based
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>>25473443
As do Bonobos, I hear. Perhaps you'd like to join them?

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Just finished Moby Dick, my God the tangents this book goes on, it's insane.

>Hello it's me, Ishmael, I want to write about how this crazy captain's maniacal hunt for a giant fuckass whale
>It was really traumatic and at the end everyone fucking died and I am the lone survivor
>Also let me spend some time debunking contemporary depiction of whales
>Oh and you ought to know the size of a whale in details
>Let's explore historical accounts about whales!
>Top ten reasons why a whale is actually a fish and not a mammal (and that's a good thing)
>Also saint George was probably a whaler and he slew a whale instead of a dragon, let's be honest here folks
>Did you know that white things are cool? let me list a few cool white things, like the albatross!

Anyway, What did (you) think of Moby dick? I liked it a lot when it was focused on the story.
Do you guys have any other maritime book suggestion? Nothing Paul Conrad I already read a bunch of his stuff.
It really is true that men yearns for the sea.


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>>25473024
I know that genrefaggots can't into subtext but this isn't even subtext, he says it with specific reference to the whale in chapter 36
>Hark ye yet again--the little lower layer. All visible objects, man, are but as pasteboard masks. But in each event--in the living act, the undoubted deed--there, some unknown but still reasoning thing puts forth the mouldings of its features from behind the unreasoning mask. If man will strike, strike through the mask! How can the prisoner reach outside except by thrusting through the wall? To me, the white whale is that wall, shoved near to me. Sometimes I think there's naught beyond. But 'tis enough. He tasks me; he heaps me; I see in him outrageous strength, with an inscrutable malice sinewing it. That inscrutable thing is chiefly what I hate; and be the white whale agent, or be the white whale principal, I will wreak that hate upon him.
and directly to God in response to a storm in chapter 119
Oh! thou clear spirit of clear fire, whom on these seas I as Persian once did worship, till in the sacramental act so burned by thee, that to this hour I bear the scar; I now know thee, thou clear spirit, and I now know that thy right worship is defiance. To neither love nor reverence wilt thou be kind; and e'en for hate thou canst but kill; and all are killed. No fearless fool now fronts thee. I own thy speechless, placeless power; but to the last gasp of my earthquake life will dispute its unconditional, unintegral mastery in me. In the midst of the personified impersonal, a personality stands here. Though but a point at best; whencesoe'er I came; wheresoe'er I go; yet while I earthly live, the queenly personality lives in me, and feels her royal rights. But war is pain, and hate is woe. Come in thy lowest form of love, and I will kneel and kiss thee; but at thy highest, come as mere supernal power; and though thou launchest navies of full-freighted worlds, there's that in here that still remains indifferent. Oh, thou clear spirit, of thy fire thou madest me, and like a true child of fire, I breathe it back to thee.
This is also disregarding all the non-dialogue portions of the book that make this clearly about God, like the Pip line I referenced from chapter 93
>He saw God's foot upon the treadle of the loom, and spoke it; and therefore his shipmates called him mad.
Moby-Dick remains the first filter that someone is likely to encounter that will determine if they are too retarded to interpret theme. This is not hard or especially complex text to interpret, so if you can't you should probably give up on literature until you are a bit older and more patient.
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>>25472863
>got it
Au contraire. Sounds like you never will.
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>>25472990
>If you think Moby-Dick is an especially long book
My comment was not meant as a slight to moby dick but as words of encouragement to an anon who seemed dismayed by not being able to write tangents
>or if you can’t into the importance of style and theme
I'm sure some flew over my head, I'm not perfect and I wasn't always super focused when reading the book. I read where I can and sometimes I get distracted.
But for example I can't see any symbolism in the chapter where Ishmael lists all the types of whales and what they're like.
If that has any thematic purpose feel free to illuminate me because to me it seemed dry, technical and superfluous.

>you’re ngmi
I read as a hobby, I didn't know this was a competition.
Considering that half of /lit/ is just anons jumping in threads, quoting 15 words from a max characters post and replying with a bad faith gotcha to make themselves feel smarter I don't particularly want to follow the example of those who "made it"
>we know how truly wise you are.
What a brief and therefore witty retort!
Worth reiterating that I was trying to encourage an anon by saying that a more coherent and succinct writing style can still be good, I didn't mean to imply that Melville wasn't witty or that I'm more wise than he was because I know to be brief or whatever your epic zinger was meant to insult.
Maybe you're better than me at being "into the importance of style and theme" but idk if you're better at understanding those when you can't even understand 4chan posts
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>>25472986
In comparison to what its talking abiut, most certainly. For a place full of readers most threads are "If you read [Well-known thing] you are a chud/tranny", "X author is chud/tranny". It's very similar to /mu/ where there's a lot more discussion about the type of person who reads/listens to something and celebrity drama then actually talking about music/literature.
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This thread is bait and very transparently so.

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What is the equivalent to „vampire werewolf playboy millionaire CEO“ in literature aimed at men?
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>>25473372
Same reason videogames, movies and TV shows are garbage too.

Ideology.
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>>25473297
you're conflating dislike of "anime" per se with dislike of niche and somewhat demeaning fetish tropes.
it's like complaining that nobody else shares your tastes in "western cinema" while disingenuously putting Interstellar and 2 Girls 1 Cup together as prime examples thereof
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>>25473388
I have shamefully spent over $200 on light novel audiobooks of shameless male power fantasy stuff to listen to while I fall asleep. There has been zero western competition and it really stumps me.

There used to be stuff like Gor but that is pretty much all gone.
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>>25472916
>exotic
>sexy
>dangerous
This.
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>>25473297
>anime website
It isn't 2008 anymore.

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A thread for books about economy
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>>25472554
There's no point arguing with "can't know nuthin" man. He can't recognize any of his implicit preconceptions.
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>>25469768
>>25469769
Whats up with retards posting these long ass images that consists of randomly compiled right wing bullshit like anyone is going to give a fuck. Ive seen similar ones for other random conspiratorial bullshit. Is it like some boomer facebook group that makes these
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>>25456091
Because of the field is acutely unaware of their own normative bias and end up regurgitating utilitarian empiricist bs whenever they open their mouth. If you talk with a neolib or a lolbert, you'll quickly realize that they're incapable of dissociating moral categories from economic measures
>wdym why is it good ? It made the line go up !

>>25457808
>erm ackshually criticizing a field's epistemics is LE HECKIN CONSPIRACY
He's completely right. Econ used to be more diverse and more open but the neoliberal advent cemented the neoclassical's dominion over the entire field from the 1980s to the mid 2010s. However since neoliberalism has been delegitimized by the 08 crisis there's been new fields that have popped up and criticized the neoclassical dominance (e.g. behavioral econ or MMT) but it's still a slow and gradual transition.

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>>25459514
Humans are not reducible to purposeful action. Austrians essentially wind up arguing for an alternate reality where their axioms are true and their conclusions can be derived, but it simply isn't our reality.
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>>25473301
>Austrians essentially wind up arguing for an alternate reality where their axioms are true and their conclusions can be derived, but it simply isn't our reality.
I don't think any of the free market or liberalism defenses, stuff like Road to Serfdom, is apodeictic, but the focus on entrepreneurship, uncertainty, and dynamics is an extremely useful frame for actually doing business. Through the lenses of neoclassical economics, it seems like the only business possible is based around arbitrage.
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>>25472428
Sorry, I was in a hurry

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What should kids read this year?
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>>25469785
What are these pomo kids' bullshit books? I'll be reading to my kids what my mom read to me since she fortuitously saved all those paperback picture books. (Thanks mom.) Nothing published beyond the early-mid 2000s is appropriate for children.
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>>25469785
Madison Grant
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>>25469796
tl;dr
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>>25472323
magic tree house goes hard


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