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How can such a genuinely terrible author be so popular?
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>>24707495
>IT is kino
Yes
>Fictional child orgies are based
Neck yourself
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>>24711949
>translate well to the screen
I like King but no
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>>24707630
>Let's build a Halal culture of tradition, artistic merit, intellectual worth, refreshing purity and goodness.
It would be for the first time
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>>24707428
Because the average reader is a terrible reader
/thread
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>>24707447
Based

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who the fuck reads novels?
seriously, i doubt you can find anyone who's not a child, woman (child for all practical purposes) or irl sòyjak (child for all practical purposes) reading this shit.
if you have some sort of message you want to deliver to the reader, the novella format should be more than enough.
otherwise it's fucking fiction, i'm not going to spend 2 precious months of my life reading some glorified netflix goyslop for pseuds.

seriously, who the fuck reads this shit?
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Novels are fine but yes most of them are unnecessarily long. Around 200-300 pages and less than 100,000 words is the right length most of the time. I've read novels where I think you could seriously cut out half the chapters and it would be better.
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>>24711855
You obviously don't like reading, what are you doing on this board?
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>reading a novel for 2 months
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91gT68xeDMM
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>>24711855
You are a slave

>Oh my god is that.. le contingency!?
>I'm going le insaaaane!

Sartre was ripping Lovecraft hard on this one
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currently trying to find the largest single fart from a non-obese woman on thisvid

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Picrel was written by Schopenhauer's mother. Of Karl Marx, this is what his father had to say
>Frankly speaking, my dear Karl, I do not like this modern word, which all weaklings use to cloak their feelings when they quarrel with the world because they do not possess, without labour or trouble, well-furnished palaces with vast sums of money and elegant carriages. This embitterment disgusts me and you are the last person from whom I would expect it. What grounds can you have for it? Has not everything smiled on you ever since your cradle? Has not nature endowed you with magnificent talents? Have not your parents lavished affection on you? Have you ever up to now been unable to satisfy your reasonable wishes? And have you not carried away in the most incomprehensible fashion the heart of a girl whom thousands envy you? Yet the first untoward event, the first disappointed wish, evokes embitterment! Is that strength? Is that a manly character?

What are some other examples of philosophers getting BTFO'd by their parents?
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>>24710976
>i bought you some shit so I'm right
the eternal Boomer
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I for one think we should bring back parricide. It simply isn't right that weak and feeble geriatrics get to dominate into their 50s and 60s let alone into anemic old age.
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>>24710976
I dont think Ive ever thought about the parents of a philosopher.
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Didn’t some anon on /lit/ write a monologue btfoing Schopenhauer’s mom for this?
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>>24710976
>even Marx's father called him a weak sissy
N87gm

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Suggest a book that feels like how Burzum sound.
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Teenager by Marvin
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>>24711460
>>24711468
nothing like it
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>>24711386
What you should do is stay in that of abstract inspiration and come up with something that tries to capture how Filosofem makes you feel without the stereotypical imagery (frozen wastelands, vikings...etc). You'd be surprised at what you could with it.
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I'm going to write the great American Xasthur novel
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a lot of the hate for trans people comes from how much they are pushed. this includes in publishing. trans artists, of any kind, seem to be categorically mediocre and shallow. trans-focused media also always seems to be a surface level, zero depth reflection of the trans experience. so the things getting pushed are self-absorbed and uninteresting fluff at best and narcissistic and actively damaging slop at worst

but other kinds of lgbtq people have made incredible art in the past. sappho, woolf, proust, dickinson, and even plato are part of that group. so it doesn't seem like having an alternative lifestyle bars you from being literary

so what is the problem? are trans people capable of producing art, and has there been any genuine art created by trans people that has stood the test of time? is the modern trans author a phenomenon brought by a problem with the publishing industry, or the nature of today's trans socialization, or some other issue? or are trans people categorically flawed in a way that prevents them from producing real art - and if so, what is this flaw?

i'm genuinely curious about your viewpoints on this because it seems like all trans writers are relatively modern and solely focused on identity, which is not something that you often see other gay people do
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>>24705950
>John Waters is cool
Passively watching a bunch of self-destructive freaks who kill small animals and eat shit is the opposite of cool. I can have a similar experience staring into a toilet bowl or going to the ER.
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>>24711806
>They are driven, but driving towards the bottom
is that a double entendre
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>>24710662
HONtrapoints
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>>24704007
no, they're trannies because they've been convinced by wholly manufactured rhetoric, they are not themselves, they are creatures of the (((state))) and art must be at least somewhat idiosyncratic. also all tranny "art" is about being a faggot, they're all solely identitarians
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>>24710647
Can't I like just make things and abstractions in my head for fun, im not trying to seem particularly profound I just like sounding stupid with big claims about the nature of man I shouldnt be allowed to make

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ITT: post shit nobody cares about
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>>24709302
Circumcision is a vile and barbaric custom with absolutely no benefits. It's only defenders are those who have been victims of the same practice, because they simply want revenge, for if they were mutilated, why shouldn't others be too?
It should be banned by the penalty of death.
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>>24711130
Obviously, but this requires destroying the jewish lobby
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>>24709200
It’s good and I recommend it. Though it spends to much time explaining the beliefs and practices of individual random tribal people groups around the world when it could have gotten the point across in like half the page length.
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>>24711146
>Could have gotten the point across in like half the page length.
>200 pages long
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i like folk/oral literature, or at least i find the concept of it extremely interesting. in general i prioritize things that most people don't so i find it hard to have discussions where i'm really on the same page as the other person.

>Far from being a man of his time, Lovecraft's views were abhorrent even to his bigoted peers. A 1922 attempt to join an elite honor society within the KKK (The Glorious Lancers of the Sepulcher of the Church of the Ku Klux Klan), typically reserved for college men, was rebuffed on the basis of racial views evinced in a monograph he submitted for their consideration. In the document, he called for what we would now recognize as the genocide of Black Americans, most mixed raced people, Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews, and Catholics. This shocked even the 'elite' Klansmen, who held to a repressive and segregationist line, but were not comfortable with the mass slaughter or even forced repatriation of minority groups.
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>>24710470
What a cucked bitch he was, lmao. Imagine caring about race shit so much you declare YOURSELF a subhuman. Kek. Absolute comedy.
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>>24710426
I honestly think it adds to the horror element ngl. Guy who is legitimatley insane creates some spooky stories.

Idk why people talk about lovecraft being insane though when you have authors like the nigger who founded scientology after realizing you can do anything and push anything behind the guise of religion. Now THATS genuinely far more interesting.
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>>24712377
Hubbard was a child-abusing, wife-beating, alcoholic, unhinged Thelemite.
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>>24712377
Incidentally, L Ron Hubbard’s Fear is a wonderful horror novella
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>>24710426
Look ma, I can post unsourced claims on the internet

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>N: The eternal return: Imagine if you had to live your life over and over again. Would you be happy?
>Q: You don't even believe in free will though, right? So why does this thought experiment matter? Also is this just not an elaborate form of Stoicism? I thought you said they were retards?
>N: *has a mental breakdown and molests a horse*
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>>24712158
Retard, the whole point of the Eternal Return is to get rid of free will, and the stoics got the concept from Heraclitus.
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>>24712158
I'd agree to relive my life infinitely if i could retain the memories of past lives and if once in a great while i was reborn in different eras and could experience both the past and the future.

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>The old postmodern insurgents risked the gasp and squeal: shock, disgust, outrage, censorship, accusations of socialism, anarchism, nihilism. Today’s risks are different. The new rebels might be artists willing to risk the yawn, the rolled eyes, the cool smile, the nudged ribs, the parody of gifted ironists, the “Oh how banal”. To risk accusations of sentimentality, melodrama. Of overcredulity. Of softness. Of willingness to be suckered by a world of lurkers and starers who fear gaze and ridicule above imprisonment without law. Who knows.

Do you agree?
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>>24710543
The problem is the general revulsion most people have to true sincerity and honesty, in practice it either becomes delusional everything is all rainbows and kitten or asks people to confront things about themselves and the world that they really don't want to confront.
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kindness is the real punk rock
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>>24710557
funny how this board turned on dfw and now posters get filtered even by his simpler sentiments
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>>24712335
The board has turned on all great works as of late. I think the userbase has experienced a +90% turnover in the last year, it's the only way to explain this rampant contrarianism.
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>>24712335
Is that funny or just really depressing? I don't think they even give themselves a chance to be filtered, just reduce it to memes and then suly themselves.

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>"From all the creatures who have life and consciousness, we women suffer the most"
Euripedes, on Medea.
This is interesting. It was written by a man, who by the parameters of nowadays, supposedly is not able to understand women suffering.

I'm not even trying to be political in any sense here, it is just bizarre how since the ancient times we were aware of the suffering of humanity not only as a its genres, but as a problem of the species, yet we chose to make ressentful moviments through history just because our egoistical nature is bigger than everything.
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bump
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>>24711228
Yes, that is the point of the play. The husband and wife were too caught up in a play of power between themselves that they took no regard for the children. The play is a masterpiece.
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>>24711018
>"From all the creatures who have life and consciousness, we women suffer the most"
>Of all things which are alive and have intelligence we women are the most wretched creature;
Huh?
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>>24712188
I'm a ESL, that's the way I translated.
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>>24711236
>women are merely an object of our lust, just like the vast world fulfills our desire to explore, our potential to create, our pride to compete and dominate, women are simply the element we cast our lust and love upon
And yet, most of you can't score even with one woman. How the turn tables, kek.

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I've always wanted to be a creative ever since I was young. I've day dreamed about being one and tried working my ass off trying to write ever since I was around 12. My parents tried pushing me towards it for school assignments. I also wanted to draw but never got into it seriously.

I've been wanting to write again for nearly 2 years now and have barely made any progress towards that goal. I've only done one little drabble like 2 years ago and haven't done any exercises since then. I've been trying to get myself to write, but all of it looks too complicated and exhausting for me. I've tried multiple different strategies, but they never seem to work. I've tried forcing myself to write, but can only make myself write a couple of sentences for barely 30 seconds before stopping and looking at my phone again.

I've never been able to complete a single multichapter story in my entire life and actually coming up with stories isn't much better. I can't think anything through and everything about trying to make an entire story looks too hard for me. I want to be a creative really badly, but nothing I've done seems to have amounted to much of anything. I want to become one so badly, and I want to stop wasting my life doing nothing.
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>>24711960
How?
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>>24709432
It's a mixture of having maaaaaany hours of experience with your craft (massive bonus points if you were autistically interested as a kid and thats all you consoomed) and good genetics.
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>>24712350
When I say "with your craft" I mean consuming said craft and also creating art is said craft.
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>>24709432
Fuck off, Howie.
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>>24709955
At this point Howie is just a sounding board for all the delusional retards who still respond in good faith to his threads.

Even if this were a legit thread, this kind of response is just profoundly stupid and meandering. OP was asking about creativity, not offering to be your shrink. Keep your hangups to yourself. No one wants to know every inane observation that crawls through your small, slow mind.

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>steals bread
>multiple escape attempts
>steals from a bishop and a kid as soon as he gets released
>gets caught and escapes
>BUYS a child
>participates in a riot
>drives a cop to suicide
>never gets punished
And I'm supposed to feel bad for this fucking Mary Sue?
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>>24712052
Wow, he sounds based
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>>24712052
>BUYS a child
Based
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>>24712052
Why couldn't he just serve his five years? He had to have known that he makes things worse for himself with every escape attempt, right?

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What are some good books about 8-15 year old boys? Preferably with no women in them, please.
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>>24705491
My diary
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>>24705491
A Separate Peace
Ender's Game
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>>24705491
Is it even possible to have a renaissance of boys' literature that isn't YA or teen romance? Where are all the stories of surviving the jungle, exploring deep sea caves or fighting aliens? Is it a lost cause since kids would rather play video games?
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>>24712229
Made in abyss level chain of reasoning
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>>24705491
>Preferably with no women in them, please.
What, afraid you'd get second thoughts and reconsider your sinful ways, you colossal pedo faggot?

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All his books are just his own personal theories based off studying fiction and non fiction books. His books aren't based on any objective fundamental truths or even his own life experiences.
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i love reading about all those stories and anecdotes. it's a mix between western and eastern canon and put some names on my radar
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>>24711138
No narrative is 'objective truth,' if you mean specific particles smacking one-another or whatever gay materialist blah-blah. But ethos in good literature & fiction are usually as true and informative as most lived experience. A document of another's lived-experience/observations will usually inform of a true dynamic as much--or shy of as much--as your 'going-about' in the world. And that I'm sure is what you mean by hard-truth or reality you homo.
>I haven't even read him,--just observed he's quite smart and perceptive.--Bestseller for a reason.
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>>24711138
Fiction is didactic, or else smart and succesful people wouldn't highly regard it.--But they do.
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>>24711138
You're one of these retards that thought the "rules" were meant to be absolute and scientific aren't you?
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>>24711138
Isn’t 48 laws of power banned from prisons?


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