You guys are always talking up Byung-Chul Han and Patrick Deneen, and they're great, but this—despite being older—seems to describe our neoliberal hellscape even better.I would add Philip Rieff's Triumph of the Therapeutic: Uses of Faith After Freud here as maybe even better, but I feel like that one's a bit less accessible and more strictly "theory" in some ways.
>>24922805I like his other books but this one seem long winded with him bitching about the NFL in the middle of the book for no good reason. Revolt was much better.
>>24922805Could have done without the Freudian hogwash. Some interesting concepts otherwise.
>>24924534Does it point out that modern thin notions of freedom, especially those undergirding liberalism, basically say freedom to 'choose' (to consume) IS all there really is to freedom?
I'm a 30 year old wizard neet and my mom has recently been heavily hinting at me that I should read pic related, any /lit/izen would like to tell me why?
It's his best book? She's an Oprah fan? She's dying? Anyway you should read it, it's pure sovl.
she wants you to understand that its not too late for you to start striving to better yourself
>>24924027If that is the case she doesn't understand how impossible that is now.
I once met this cute university chick on a long bus ride and she was warming up real nicely, and we had a good time. We talked about literature and I said I was going through classics and asked her for recommendations. She named East of Eden by Steinbeck. I said I tried it once a few years ago, but found it immensely dry and didn't get very far into it. She was like, "Oh." Her mood changed immediately.She never called me after that.
Is there any literature that examines the male homosexual or bisexual condition that ISN'T just smut written by fujos or political nonsense?
>>24923273That's not due to lack of publishing but lack of readership.I'm not a fag but I know a few and they're too busy having sex/fun to read. The only ones sitting at home reading are the wachowski looking mfers with the gray-alien body type. Just write for lesbians. There are like literally 8 dyke bars left in the US because they literally hate fun or doing anything. They'll read your books.
>>24924199Strange conclusion to reach regarding OP's identity. I'd assume he was a single 20-something white guy who thinks he's gay but is really just lonely and terminally addicted to porn.
>>24922363yeah I'll just stick to yaoi, they know how to draw cute boys that act cute. like the ones in OP's pic. not some disgusting shit about a 30-something twinkdead loser busting a 70 year old's crust while trying not to irritate his bedsores. fags are literally only tolerable, let alone attractive, if they're 2D.
>>24923686I was actually surprised by how much this is tauted as a groundbreaking trailblazing work about sexuality and gender only to read it and it's a whole bunch of nothing and sci-fi world building autism about climate and calendars and hours of the day
Burroughs OP's diary desu
What does /lit/ think?
>>24924594Why would God let such a scenario happen doe?
>>24924530So the bible and every other holy book you got your concept of god from was lying when it referenced evil?Why would Jesus have to die so horrifically to shield others from evil if there is no evil in the first place?>7. Derp, god's creative imperfection is exactly what makes him perfect, you don't actually have to be perfect to be perfectSame word games as every retard catholic paradox that is just meant to force the believer to suspend their own judgment and trust the theocracy that endorses it instead.
>>24924625Pretty much the standard playbook of the chr*stcuck. Obfuscate arguments and play semantics enough so that you sound smart and hope no one engages.>evil is actually not evil it's just an imperfection of the world which god had to put in so he can show us how perfect he is
>>24924620Only by creating infinite imperfections can god prove he is the perfect creator. Duh!
>>24924535https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MPHyR92MQic
Another childhood series is ruined for me
>>24919098Tom was a lifelong jobber, he should've realized that and instead placed himself as the right-hand man of someone much more competent
>>24917015It’s obviously just a stand in for Nazis, it’s American mythology why do you think it’s so popular? Yes now the edgelords respond to you saying that’s all based and Voldemort was the good guy, right on cue.
Kinda unrelated but after rereading the series I just realized, most of the events in 5 could've easily been averted if anyone simply pushed Umbridge down the stairs of from a window. If an investigation started from that, the obvious reply could've been "she slipped" or "it was an accident". Any professor would've covered it up
>>24919982>forgetting about the actual Irish kid
>>24919982Went over my head as a child. Surely it could have been subconscious on Rowling's part.
He was right about Christ.
>>24924117Shame about the syphilis
>>24924251>why an alien would push catholicism.one could argue loosh planet if one were to belive in such thing..- person from /X/.
>>24924309not the same anon , but could you tell me those problems
>>24924374> Use your eyes retardAnd why should I trust my eyes? They’ve fooled me before
>>24924605Including reading pages from the Bible?
Not just this book, but all of CM's books. It's feels unique, but there must be other authors who do masculine so well and without pretense.The boy in The Road is infuriating for being such a timid little faggot, but it rings true for a how a (gay) kid might act. As someone who's done time in close security GA prison, his descriptions of violence are the most realistic I've read due to its suddenness and banality and refusal to be melodramatic. That's exactly how Negro knife crime goes down. Absolutely no one gives a shit when his best homeboy gets pulled out. The immediate concern is simply how long will we be locked down and who will grab his meager possessions.
lol
Lonesome Dove
>>24922479Tom Clancy. David Baldacci
joyce carol oates owned the fuck out of misogynist mccarthy on X
>>24924564she's so oppressed :(
It went along the lines of:>If someone tells you to go find a red house with a green fence, daffodils growing in front and an apple tree in the back, with a cat sleeping on the porch, and on your travels you happen upon a green house with a red fence, apple tree in front and daffodils out back, with a dog sleeping on the porch — then you've found it.It might have been attributed to Chesterton, but I've come up empty. Pretty sure I read it on here.
WATER FLOWING UNDERGROUND
same as it ever wassame as it ever was
>>24920527>>24922403>>24922428fuckers
>>24923515Look where my hand was!
>>24923546stick it up your ass
Did you take notes while reading it?
>>24922244>open the door RichardI've heard it said before, but I don't wanna hear it said no more Pynchon sucks tho fr fr
>>24922592>i won't buy this novel because it wouldn't look good in my Performative Literature bookcase, and wouldn't impress anybody
>>24924032I think the frank Miller book looks bad assTo bad he's a filthy fasc*st
>>24921805Yep :3 450 pages in so far and its helped a ton
>>24924566i'm 80 pages in. simply writing the characters, their interactions and acronyms down has helped a lot. I haven't felt lost or confused or unable to follow the text a single time so far
What are /lit/'s thoughts?
>>24921249Because the only thing that matters is Good vs evilSo Allah(Good) vs iblis evil. Yt people just want excuses to be gay and degenerate
>>24920762If you can’t recognize Kit Marlowe by appearance I don’t know what you’re doing on this board.
I've found a degree of autonomy, freedom, and even creative inspiration in the lifestyle of modern refugees. Survival through squatting, petty theft, a complete dis-attachment from the system while still living off it's excess.Lately my interests are less cultural, more criminal. Identity fraud, online scams, blackmail and extortion. These are probably the tools we will need to free ourselves. It's no coincidence that so many great men of history got their start, if not as the children of senators, then as vagabonds and highwaymen. At some point our generation, at least those with the will to survive, will have to hoist the black flag and set off far far far from 'the sinking ship' to take a new existence for themselves, by force or by fraud. It's fitting, in a way, that our century should resemble the Golden Age of Piracy, an ironic twist when so many seem to think it will be a repeat of the last century of wars and ideologies.And in a lot of ways it will be better than what came before. More brutal, but more honest as well. More human.
Doctor Faustus and Tamerlane are goodDido the Queen of Carthage is okayEdward II and Massacre at Paris are pretty badThe Jew of Malta is hilarious Though he was very innovative in form (blank verse), in plot and structure he can be pretty derivative. Shakespeare is too in a lot of ways, but his genius in characterization and the poetry of his writing often take the stock comedia del'arte plots to something original and transformative. Marlowe at his best is probably stronger dramatically than all but the greatest plays of Shakespeare, and I think that Doctor Faustus has a similar tone and force that makes Macbeth such a joy to watch. But the problem really is that behind the dramatic force there isn't much further depth. The characters in Marlowes plays feel almost epic or architypal, rather than the more complex and human figures of Shakespeare. The best juxtaposition being Shylock from Merchant of Venice vs Barabas from the Jew of Malta. Shylock, while still being a villain, has ample motivation for the specific antagonism he is pursuing against Antonio. He is as much the victim as the villain in the story, and his revenge is grounded in the progressive betrayal he suffers over the play, culminating in the famous court scene. It is a very personal drama. Barabas in the other hand, when suffering a similar fate, turns into an evil mass murderer who poisons wells and genocides nunneries because he's an evil jew who hates Christians. The second is very entertaining, it works well dramatically, but it doesn't have the same interest and pathos that Shakespeare provides. Doctor Faustus and Tamerlane are in truth the same, it's just that they are so well rendered that it is fine that they are simplistic in the way that they are.
>>24920454>/lit/>thoughts
what book changed your life for the better? & why?
This gave me a real solution to the problems I was suffering through, and has helped me develop a personal sovereignty that allows me to be less at-effect with the crappy world around me.
>>24918547Damn that image kinda goes hard
>>24922956>but I fear this has proved I am susceptible to subtle forms of controlIt just means you know how to read. Too many people read with closed hearts and never learn anything.
>>24924341I got it made right before they updated nano banana to no longer do celebrities. corpo ai is so gay. I love ai so much
>>24916395Got me out of "Trad" pseudery
Can we have a thread where we discuss language learning and share textbooks, free from the low iq coomers in the /int/ /Lang/ thread? If you want to discuss your waifus to watch and post porn, go to /int/.
Did anyone else here learn their TL entirely because they were so fascinated by its culture? I wanna hear your stories.
>>24922646man... you make a long list why you want to learn your language.and then you go for daily motivations. why it is your new hobby.
>>24921462I think that gives precedence to metaphorical/figurative semantics over clear communication. it should be among the latest stages of language learning. unless you're learning the language in order to exclusively read and write poetry in it.
>>24922646Entirely? No, not me. On the one hand I sometimes care about a culture associated with a certain language, or care about the intersection language/(other) culture, like I care about the music which German poems are set to in Lieder, and I care about the fact there are apparently better books written for classical languages in German and French than in English, and I care about the fact there are many books written in German, etc. On the other hand I tend to view language as separate from any culture, and view language as pure ideas, much like mathematics and music. You can describe the way a bridge is constructed with geometrical expressions, but that doesn't mean that those geometrical expressions are intrinsically part of that bridge. In the same way German grammar for example is not intrinsically part of anything cultural. Grammar — as well as logic and rhetoric — as a tool for thought is my main interest when it comes to language overall, this is also not intrinsically connected to communication, language even without any communication at all is how we structure thoughts.
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Any other character- and personality driven Ligotti stories like ''The Spectacles in the Drawer''? He's at his funniest when depicting caricatures like Plomb in the aforementioned story.
>>24921310Noctuary is his best collection but is one of the harder ones to get ahold of
>>24918078My Work Is Not Yet Done is his most character driven story (it's a novella). Maybe you'll find it funny. It's full of seething misanthropy.
>>24918078What about Teatro Grottesco? Is it a good start?
>>24920946Not that anon but he’s right, your question is stupid. He writes fiction so if you find value in pessimistic philosophy presented as horror literature then he’s worth reading, if not then he isn’t worth it. But the fact that you need others to tell you this because you can’t figure it out yourself means you’re a complete retard.
>>24918078The Christmas Eves of Aunt ElisePerfect for this time of year, too
You only need Plato and Aristotle. Everything else is superfluous.
>>24923900Haha I knew you would say that. If you read the secondary literature, you'd know that is still something of an open question. You can make an argument for several categorization - are dialecticians a development of what was megarians, are they a separate school from megarians, are they just a broad collection of thinkers like the sophists? But also, Diodorus Cronus does get called both a Megarian and a Dialectician in the source material, so pick your side, and his educational/philosophical "lineage" features Megarians, and his arguments clearly rely on eleatic beliefs (pointing to his socratic-eleatic (megarian) heritage), and people like Sextus list him accordingly.But I shouldn't pretend that you're familiar with the primary source material or that you've read secondary literature re: diodorus cronus and megarians/Dialecticians. One might say youre merely a... dilettante?
>>24923130They discuss the intellect and briefly talk about the intellect knowing itself but there is basically little to no discussion by them of consciousness qua consciousness (i.e. the experiential firsthand aspect of awareness as distinct from particular modes or actions of the intellect) and absolutely nothing about the metaphysical implications of it.
>>24923918Consciousness is the One.
>>24923536>appealing to authority is the exact opposite of midwittery. The absolute state of this board.
>>24924217Do they actually say that though? As far as I'm aware neither Plato nor Aristotle does.
I spend 10 hours of my day reading about religions, and I have been doing that for 15 years now!Why do I do this, and what will it lead me to?
>>24922789Ah but don't you see, that is the answer. It is perfectly known: it is what it is. Trivial, really, which makes all the popular religious schizobabble and fake "philosophy" of Plato & others both incredibly sad and yet hilarious.
>>24923266>he thinks I'm a BA>he can't even parse full sentences (or rather pretends to be unable to)I can tell you're seething. Seethe more.
>>24917396What does it mean if he would or would not exist?
Depends. Are you a dumbass? If so, you're wasting your time. If not, can you summarize anything useful that you've learned?>>24923188Oh... apparently not.>>24922789Quitter.
>>24923280>It is perfectly known: it is what it isNot known; believed. Its not possible to know, and thus its a waste of time to pursue knowning.
