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/lit/ what book should I get in french for me and my girlfriend for christmas?
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>>10278769
>my girlfriend

bonjour, mon petit
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>>10278769
Voyage au bout de la nuit
Le rouge et le noir
Madame bovary
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The Koran
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>>10278769
Histoire d'O
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>>10278769
au bonheur des ogres

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>mfw I like sincerity

Books for this feel?
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>>10280070
Based Froguette poster
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the human parts of Pynchon,
Kurt Vonnegut,
John Williams,
D. F. W.
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>>10280070
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>>10280108
nininininigger
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Another shit thread.

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have you???
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>>10280410
I think it's Genja
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>>10280426
Why is he in our dream?

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What does /lit/ think of W. Somerset Maugham?
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A faggot but of human bondage is a favorite of mine
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Mediocre. Fakes realism with easy platitudes. Certainly not a genius.

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Want to get into the Divine Comedy. which translator should i read from?
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>>10278247
Longfellow, as others have said. Binyon is also good for that.
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>>10278201
>Not learning Italian to read it
You have to go back, anonimo
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>>10278908
Is Italian pretty easy to learn? I have nothing but spare time.
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>>10280422
Being fluent might take a while, but translating a text is easier, and used as an exercise to learn. I use duolingo if I want to learn something, but not sure if that's actually any good. Might be worth practising with it though.

Anyway, google says this:
>Italian is considered one of the easiest languages for a native English speaker to learn. The grammar and sentence structure are different from English, but simpler. Because both languages have Latin roots, they also share thousands of cognates – words that sound the same and have the same meanings.
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>>10280422
For an english speaker it might be a bit hard. But if you know spanish or portuguese, it becomes extremely easy.

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wtf i hate communism now
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>>10276915

Thanks for the cover OP, gonna buy Life & Fate now.
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>>10276915
grossman is way better than solzehnitsyn but doesnt get as much reputation cause he's not a profiteering CIA shill
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>>10276915
pleb
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>>10276915
Do you need to read Life and Fate before reading Everything flows?
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tankies get out

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Thoughts on Current 93's list of authorial influences?
>Alighieri, Dante
>Anderson, Hans Christian
>Benson, Robert Hugh
>Blyton, Enid
>Browne, Sir Thomas
>Dostoyevsky, Fyodor
>Housman, Alfred Edward
>Irving, John
>James, Montague Rhodes
>Judd, Alan
>Kierkegaard, Soren
>Lautréamont, Comte de
>Lee, Stan
>Lewis, Clive Staples

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I am intrigued by this Current 93 guy, and Douglas Pearce. I think you can recognize a lot of those influences in the music, OP.

Also, check out Current 93's collab with Tiny Tim lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_PkSEZlE9E
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On a different note, I recently was finally able to get my hands on a copy of England's Hidden Reverse now that it's been reprinted, and so far it's a good read. Recommended for anyone interested in Current and other relevant acts.
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He's the only contemporary musician I know of who heavily emphasizes Christianity in his music without being cheesy and entering into Christian rock radio territory. Of Ruine or Some Blazing Starre and All the Pretty Horses sound truly otherworldly and mystical.

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I'm studying economics and want to know what's the best version of "the wealth of nations."
Preferably a hardback edition.
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>>10280349
>"the wealth of nations."
Nooooo
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>>10280390
an inquiry into the nature and causes of the wealth of nations.
you fucking autist.
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What do you mean version? An unabridged one obviously. It's going to be a boring read though.

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Has anyone here read Ossian? What did you think of it? What is the best translation?

"I always was, am, and will always be me and all that is inside both space and time."

"My will always was, is, and will always be all that is both inside space and outside time."

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What do you think makes a fantasy setting interesting and/or engaging? As someone who's run through multiple drafts of different kinds of "fantasy" worlds, this is a question I often find myself struggling with.

Are there universal elements that contribute to the quality of a fantasy setting, or do you think it's more about refining and focusing on the individual things that make a setting unique?
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>>10279194
The whole point of fantasy worlds is to immerse, right? So probably the best fantasy worlds are fleshed out enough to be believeable and engaging. A lot of fantasy shit can turn out to be either too generic or too unrelatable. It needs to be unique, but also realistic- there's a balance that needs to be found between unbelievable and believable. To construct a really good one, you gotta put in a lot of work, just look at that autist Tolkein. Its a classic medieval era transposal, which is kinda cliche, but it really comes alive through the little things
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>>10279194
Some sort of conspiracy that underlies the lore of the world.
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>>10279194
adherence or similarities to real life events and places or cultures. I can barely stomach completely different or strange settings. You can have really wild and imaginative worlds but if there is no ground or relatable basis I think it all falls apart.
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>>10279194
Above all, the most interesting part of a fantasy story to me is its reflection/comentary of real life concepts. In Lord Of The Rings, for example, when Gandalf says:
>Many that live deserve death, and some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo?
Tolkien is addressing the audience through Frodo.
This is a large reason that speculative fiction does so well e.g. The Handmaid's Tale.
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>>10280196
>muh deeper meaning in my made-up setting
I bet you think the battle for Minas Tirith was a WWI parallel

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>Anon liked catcher in the rye.
>Unironically
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>>10277551
he rapes his sister, phoebe
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>>10277647
Y? They do not sell MD here
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>>10276938
it was ok
nothing special
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>>10276938
I don't see your point.
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>>10279091
That's why I'm prepping here.

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non fiction readers are like someone with a broken arm reading an anatomy book.
fiction readers are like that same person watching an arm wrestling competition.

non fiction writers are those who read an anatomy book while healing and then describe it.
fiction writers are those who watched the competition while healing and then tell about it.

but both of them are just images that are unrelated as such to what actually happened in the arm itself, they are only mind toys to keep consciousness busy so it wont interfere with the healing process.
the broken arm is the mind after being raped by society during the socialization process.

and finally, poets are those who are aware of the inaccessibility of the healing process as such while knowing it will always happen, so simply build their own images as they wait for it to happen.
life in health is the unknown.
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You can make a better thread than this
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>>10279619
of course but it would take place in a better site than this

this is just like the athlete doing a random training run early in the morning
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>>10279589
>the broken arm is the mind after being raped by society during the socialization process.

what does this mean
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>>10279589
It amuses me that you must have put a modicum of effort into this gibberish
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>>10280380
it means that the organism of every human being is interrupted in its discovery of the living world around it when practical issues of survival and adaptation to the community impose themselves.

the thing is of course necessary but it is made through a dead medium that is purely pragmatic (culture) that needs to be discarded once the adaptation has been achieved, in order to let the organism continue its process of fusion with the life process around it.

it is only thus that it will be able to reach dead in a peaceful way, and allow us to live accordingly as consciousness lasts.

>>10280398
well it just came out effortlessly when i set myself to write it but of course to reach that effortlessness a certain effort was necessary (which is not to say everything was intentional or controlled)

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What was his fucking problem?
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He was what you would call a clown.
The people kept him alive out of humor.
Very sad story indeed.
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I'm thankful that Kant saved philosophy
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>>10279632
theres a good deal of material available for someone who is truly interested in looking for it

maybe you can start with the entry about him in the diogenes laertius book of biographies

and then maybe check his mention on books on ancient skepticism and, checking the bibliography, go from there

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Hi /lit/

I am an independent philosopher currently working on a treatise title "Taking the Back Door Out of Hell". It is a discourse on the idea that "DOOM" is the ground of reality, and without it, reality ceases to exist at all.

I am looking for feedback and am hoping to answer your questions. I leave you here with an aphorism:

The conquer your greatest fear is have all of your life's questions answered. Now, this is not an invitation to go contract cancer. Rather, one must think, feel, and act in that direction. And you can run in that direction. And you can walk in that direction. And you can crawl in that direction. And you can lay flat on the ground and let the wind gently push you in that direction. I've done all four. But one must never give up. Of course, there are answers to life's problems. There are half answers, and mostly whole answers, and answers that will get you through life if you're lucky enough. But the true answer, the COMPLETE answer, and the most guaranteed way to get it, is to follow what I have just stated.
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>>10280029
please rephrase in 10 words or fewer
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>>10280029
I hit character max.

>>10276407
First, the equation of global warming to 'conquering our prison' isn't the best one. Global warming only kills the people on the globe, not the earth itself. If you want to conquer your prison, blow it up - we have enough nukes. If you feel bad about not contributing to this amazing project, shouldn't there be an ethical response to learning how to drive so you can aid in the destruction? Also, why aren't you living a life which promotes such destruction? Why not start your own Jonestown? Why not become a serial killer? Why not actively poison your local lakes and rivers by ordering mercury online and pouring into them? Are you a hunter? Keep hunting, but leave the carcasse to let that mass extinction rolling. I mean, seriously, if the implosion of humanity is a divine mandate, you really got to take it seriously. This also doesn't jive with >>10277256, where you take a stance against antinatalism. If you want to destroy humanity, don't procreate. If God is exhausted by listening to all these prayers and watching omnipotently over all these beings, wouldn't be an act of human mercy toward the divine not to procreate?

>>10276169
We can start with the question of what exactly is Doom, and how can it be the ground of reality. Doom, it seems to me, is a negation of, let's say, Hope. These are still aspects or extensions of the person, who exist prior to them. There could exist a death-drive (see: Freud), but it cannot be the ontological basis of the universe, when planets form themselves, and animals preserve themselves and procreate. Nature herself stands in opposition to your ground of reality, and Nature sure as hell precedes any object which could embrace and promulgate Doom. Furthermore, wouldn't the spreading of Doom be antithetical to its project? If you believe Doom was at the center of things, but posted this on 4chan in Hope of people embracing it or conversing with it, weren't you operating outside of Doom? Wouldn't the only way for your philosophy to be true is to have everyone reject it? For it to die along with you and never be thought again? That seems to me a pretty shitty ground of reality when it cannot ground itself in reality.

Now for your aphorism:
You're stating that life has questions that need answering. Yet, there's not discussion on what the problem of life is, not why it needs answering. Certain Eastern movements, such as certain strains of Buddhism and Taoism, complete pass over this question; there are not problems of 'MY life' only that certain things are case and certain actions in response to case would be best. Still, you're aphorism is Hopeful as it doesn't indicate an ability to fail as there are half answers, mostly whole answers, and a complete answer with your philosophy. How can you generate a philosophy centered on Doom (which you have not defined) when your outlook on life is genuinely Hopeful? Why isn't Hope the central block to your philosophic framework?
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>>10280079
You do not think well, and proper philosophy needs thinking.
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>>10276169

Okay but what does this have to do with 'doom'?
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>>10278208
I'd even pay for it.



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