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These are all the books I've read this year. After I finish up Decay of the Angel and Name of the Rose my stack will be done so I need some new stuff.
I'm turning 23 soon so stuff like DFW really appeals to me, as well as books like Into the Wild and other 'finding yourself' books. Definitely would like a mix of serious and more fun, comfy stuff like Name of the Rose (besides all the boring history dumps it reminded me of Redwall)
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>>23627970
Also I mostly read nonfiction so is that CIA book any good? Gonna read it after I read Devils Chessboard.
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>>23630707
Spring Snow was a little too sappy for me at first but after reading more of the tetralogy I appreciated it more. Runaway Horses was excellent and more of what Mishima's known for imo, almost an extension of the themes in Sailor.
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>>23630717
I really enjoyed it, probably my favorite book I've read this year next to The Pale King. I didn't know anything about Manson before reading it and understood it pretty well, just a lot of names to remember. He doesn't get into the CIA stuff until later in the book and the beginning mainly covers inconsistencies/lies in the investigation and trial but segues it nicely to the CIA part.
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>>23630134
>I feel like most of /lit/ just reads to say that they read. But when pressed for remembering what it was about or any critical thoughts about the text they draw a blank.
It's honestly just because so many of them think it's gay to keep a journal.
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>>23630714
Yeah, I read it was kind of a 'dumbed down' book for the average reader so I was expecting something a little more basic mystery-esque. There is an aspect of that to it but the going into the history/theology sections are a real drag to read so far. There's a part where William says something to the point of "it's impossible to know everything, just new ways to look at it or interpret it" which I'm guessing will be a major theme later on and tie in to the resolution of the murders. Kind of a lame payoff imo but I haven't finished it yet.
>>23630717
I meant to ask, any recs/favorite nonfiction? Jon Krakauer is really good.

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Wtf is this true?
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What?
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Gettin strong boss baby vibes from this meme
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based retarded meme
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el jefe of meme roflmao

>le metaphor for colonialism
thank you H.G. Wells for inspiring over a century of postmodern frankfurt-school shitlib nonsense wrapped in mediocre children's genre fiction
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>>23630423
critique of the beauty of individual works, not of the notion of beauty itself. you can express distaste for a wine, or wine in general, but to dismiss the concept of taste in general as meaningless is absurd. that is the postmodernist position - wether the wine tastes good to you or not is irrelevant because taste means nothing.
you can even claim Fountain is beautiful, but that's not the goal of the piece, no attempt was made to be beautiful. it dismisses beauty as irrelevant to art.
>narrative
the idea that anything of reality is a "narrative" in this sense is thoroughly postmodern.
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>>23630403
>"art" that disparages and discredits the notion of art itself, and entirely does away with aesthetics.
Uhh no
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>>23630427
>whereas everyone else is a slave to these.
That is a really interesting criticism of post-modernism I don't have time to get into unfortunately. I have to work soon.
Perhaps when all values become relative in theory, then its inherency is rendered equally meaningless?
I think a rivitalization of modernity is impossible simply because you can't put toothpaste back into the tube.
A more practical epistemology is to appreciate that the components of post-modernity and modernity both have relative applications to a societal or systemic level. And their infighting is inherent to their dualistic nature.
Anyway I have to go now. It's worth learning though. Don't deny yourself knowledge because it can pay off in ways you don't expect.
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>>23630457
Retard

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>last book finished

>book currently reading now

>book you will read next
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>last
piranesi
>current
we are legion
>next
hard rain falling
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Man to be honest with you it has been literal years since I last finished a book. I used to read literature often though.

I think the last one I read was Thomas Bradwardine's Speculative Geometry two Januaries ago. But ever since then I've been busy with work, now I have some free time again, I've even been checking out gyms and stuff.

I'm currently in the middle of Astronomia Nova now by Kepler, but I don't read it as much as I read J.S. Mill's System of Logic. I'm reading through Plato's Laws, and Aristotle's Politics.

I'll likely read Thoreau's Civil Disobedience after A System of Logic.
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>>23628699
>last book finished
The Great Gatsby
>book currently reading now
Slavic Civilization
>book you will read next
Either Republic or Travel in Early Modern Europe
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>>23628699
>Fall of Hyperion
>The Odyssey and Borges' Ficciones
>Probably Speak, Memory
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>>23628699
>A Princess of Mars by Burroughs
breddy gud for pulp slop, ending was garbage though
>East of Eden by Steinbeck
my man knows how to write a compelling character, just wish they were doing something
>Swann's Way by Proust
I love Melville's prose and heard Proust's is even better.

I'm having to ask Muslim relatives every fucking page for clarifications on this and that. Maybe I'm the rabble it describes as not being able to understand it
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>>23630616
>You need to read it along with a commentary and Ibn Arabi's explanations.
i was gonna call this bait but theres no way, you are just an insane masochist
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>>23630256
If we can't read the Quran in english and understand it can Allah at least let us into heaven after some lengthy amount of time?
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>>23630700
What you want is to reap the wheat without sowing it. Good only comes to those who work hard anon. But if you want an easier route, I'd recommend starting with the Light Verse and checking out the commentaries on it.
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>>23630749
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verse_of_Light
talking about this? im not saying "OOOOO IBN ARABI MORE LIKE SCHIZO ARABI HAHAHAHAH", ive watched 2 videos about him and he seems interesting (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bgWnzjONXE tryna understand his 400iq make my brain hurt), but i was thinking that his stuff was WAY too complex to read along side the quran espically if im reading a translation and not the origninal old arabic. ill get to his stuff after but thanks for the help either way
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>>23630886
Yes that verse. I'd recommend Avicenna, al-Ghazzali, Ibn Arabi and Mullah Sadra's commentaries. They are all easy to read and that verse packs a lot. As I said before, the Quran is basically a grimoire. So don't just read the text. If you want to understand it you have to use it.

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Best books on the 1960s?
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>>23628054
Defentiley read "The Veitnam War" by Geoffrey Ward & Ken Burns, its a great for societal context and getting at the zeitgiest of the time and less dry battle tactics and figures. Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72 also isnt bad.
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>>23628054
I liked the Max Hastings book on the Cuban Missile Crisis called Abyss.
It takes a lot of time explaining build up from the Russian, Cuban, and American perspective. Then during the crisis goes back and forth between parties involved while events unfold.
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>>23628054
Right now I've got Pale Fire.
Although the play Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf is better when in its audio performance by Uta Hagen and co.
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>>23630757
I thought you meant FROM the 60s. I'm retarded
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>>23628851
>Perlstein’s Nixonland
Excellent book.

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I am in the middle of Sodomah and Gomorrah and it seems i spend lot of time in average enjoyment reading pages upon pages of mundane conversations at parties, just waiting for "Proustian sentence" - some kind of sudden little piece of wisdom and beauty that is completely universal to human experience. While there are certainly novels that i feel are much more consistent, there is no author with higher highs than Proust - so i continue to read it , trudging through more boring, satirical fragments (someone maybe point me - whats so interesting about aristocrats social gatherings? OK, Saniette and his etymology monologues for example are quite interesting but going for few pages - it can easily overwhelm reader, especially late at night).
I really love recursive narration - free association type of style, for example, he starts talking about jealousy he feels when Albertine looks at other women, then he goes from that to anecdote about lesbian sister of Bloch, from that to hotel manager who was fag himself so he helped to hide Bloch sister romance, from that to short interlude about peasant girls who natually know poetry and then slowly back to topic of Albertine lesbian jealousy. Always love the realization he drew a circle again. This style was hugely influential to me, i am trying to write my journal the same way - for example writing about me jerking off on meth, fluently go on musing about lost of my natural innocent sexuality and from that i start writing about my last randez-vouz and after that i look for ways how can i go back to topic of jerking off - it really makes more fun to think about, how to make such conversions from one topic to another more fluent, like how Proust would write it.
I think because of how long novel is, and how almost nobody reads it - there is lot of misconceptions about the novel even here. How gay it is (but narrator is hetero by most of it), how boring or difficult it is (but his prose is really clear and he is quite simple, breezy to read) , also because nobody reads more than first book - all the references people are doing are to Swann's Way only or to that very overreferenced madelaine scene - funny how every essay hack writes about same things, but i feel, its not really why Proust is so great.
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>>23630195
Prout
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>>23618336
>thoughts on Proust?
reading him in english is like fucking with a dampener on your penis
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>>23630680
and I don't mean this in some random elitist manner, it's just that his prose often becomes poetry and it's really really hard to properly translate
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>>23630566
Trout
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>>23630680
>>23630683
see >>23625170

Why do you think Augustine has been demoted from the canon of great philosophers?

Certainly his influence and the breath of his work is huge. For most of history he would probably be proclaimed a top 5 figure. Now he sometimes fails to make the curriculum entirely.

What shifts in philosophy caused this? Or is it just part of the general trend to remove any mention or serious engagement with Christianity?

Aquinas would be another who stood extremely tall for centuries and now is even less likely to be included.
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>>23627118
>Why do you think Augustine has been demoted from the canon of great philosophers?
Simply christcucks and their apologists are losing power.
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>>23627118
It's because he is christian. Is that what you want to hear? Its because christianity bad.
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>>23627118
Because Confessions and City of God go against the current jewish communist narrative.
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bump, thanks to all the anons effortposting.
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>>23630042
I think it's more indirect than that. Because he is Christian and still taken seriously as a Christian writer people are free to radically reread him the way they do with other thinkers.

I have seen skeptical, pro-sophist versions of Plato. Satirist Boethiuses who are moral nihilists. Even skeptical Aristotles. But it's harder to turn Augustine into a Pomo

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Does English have Universal Computation?
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>>23630211
If you mean "can it do math" the answer is yes because you can define terms as you need them

If you mean "can the universe be encoded losslessly in english" the answer is no because english can't explain how the summer breeze feels on your face without assuming a shared experience outside itself
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>>23630211
Politinomics
Econolitics
Politiecono motivations drive the produxion and consumpzion of propaganda in ever increasing layerings of detachments from whatever real thing once existed
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>>23630250
For me it's niggernomics
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>>23630856
obviously sex
(with yui)

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>it's a roger and jessica subchapter
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>>23630764
>another dragon sex episode
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>>23630780
I love dogs
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>>23630812
wanna have sex?
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>>23630815
Sure what's your address

It's cool and all to read only "high brow" literature and be a pretentious dude, but confess here, what some "low brow" books that you actually love to read.
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>>23625939
You tried the Gaunt's Ghosts and Ciaphas Cain series yet?
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James Clavell.
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I don't care what the fuckers on goodreads thinks it's fun and the MC is cute
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>>23627596
What would you recommend for a Nazi genius
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>>23613823
I told you to read the StormFRONT archives darn it Stan

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I am presently reading this splendid book, and it has a nice balance between scientific "facts" and natural observations & anecdotal experiences, which is better than terse scientific mechanized ones.

It is abundantly clear to me that crows are superior to man. Man is merely a violent and *mechanized* chimp. Mechanization turns man into a being worse than chimps.

Crows, themselves, however, are naturally intelligent, good family members with their cooperative breeding, noble and sagacious, and more.

A crow is worth than a dead Jew on a stick. I curse the Holy Spirit every day. Honestly, reading this book, I can imagine a blissful future where everyone is dead and crows feast on our flesh, converting it into light.

When crows take over the world, they will connect to the Dharma in their own way, no doubt.

Life is meaningful, but human life is meaningless. Every single last Nazi, Abrahamshit, and others here deserves to die.
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>>23630610
The majority of your fellow man are in the slave plantation with you. They didn’t create the technological hellscape that we’re subjected to. It’s been forced on all of us by a select few who ironically have the same misanthropic views as you do. Disdain for humanity is a foundation of solipsism and greediness. It’s not intrinsic to all men, you call me a retard but see things in binary. You dismiss the entire human race as meaningless because you hate the modern world, but you clearly have the same traits you despise in humans, as I’ve demonstrated.
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>>23630627
Have you read the book, The Failure of Technology by Friedrich Junger? Junger, himself, I believe was Christian and so was Ellul. They were both more humanistic than me.
>They didn’t create the technological hellscape that we’re subjected to.
Then why do they continue to justify its perpetuated existence, pop out children to serve as sacrifices at the altar of the machine, and construct abstract hierarchies based on who best conforms to its arbitrary mechanized demands? Why do they act like greater dependence in the slave plantation, which infiltrated the state, is a good thing?
>who ironically have the same misanthropic views as you do
I worked in a neurobiology lab where people sacrificed rats and collected their brains and then sliced it to study under microscopes. I was the only one who felt something was deeply wrong with all of that.
I see the Ligottian style nihilism as a consequence of mechanization. I do not see it as an accurate reflection of the ultimate nature of reality.
>foundation of solipsism and greediness
If I were greedy or solipsistic, I would not care for the destruction of primeval forests or the acidification and pollution of the oceans. I also would not care for the breakdown of communal integrity around the world. The technocratic elite don't care for any of that.

I simply do not see man as "the measure of all things". I am not a humanist. Moreover, Buddhism has been corrupted by secular, modernized forces to a large extent.

Mechanized man barely has any psychological connection to ancient man, and it almost feels like some invasive force manipulated the latter to become the former. If there were no invasive force, then mankind truly is a flawed and wretched species. We are on the precipice of WWIII, bloody civil wars, greater automation, and so on. It seems impossible not to become misanthropic now. Imagine living your whole life according to some delusions and gradually waking up to see how you're submerged and manipulated by Moloch. It feels we are dealing with something worse than samsara.
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>>23630689
>If there were no invasive force, then mankind truly is a flawed and wretched species
If there were no invasive *occult* force...*

If there were an invasive occult force that led to mechanization, then mankind is not that bad and should fight to survive.
If there was no invasive occult force that led to mechanization, then mankind is best off extinct, which ultimately best for it also.
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>>23630453
>>23630453
This is a nice page I got to. It's an excerpt about a woman raising a fledgling crow and how she lets him out every morning, where the parents greet him to teach him to fly. They get into a kind of routine until he can learn to fly. The crows were able to discriminate and determine this woman was trying to help their fledgling offspring who had previously fallen off a nest.
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"Crows show a very high level of disciple and self-control and they begin learning this very early on... An adult crow will not land at a food source, no matter how tempting, until it is convinced that there are no lurking threats. A juvenile will not join a parent at the food until it is called. A young crow will also not eat a new item of food for the first time until an older crowd demonstrates that it's safe."

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>"In 1961 he married Lee Holleman, a fellow student from the University of Tennessee. They had a son, Cullen, moved back south to Asheville, North Carolina, and were divorced soon after. When asked years later about whether he paid alimony, he responded: “With what?” He was, for the next 25 years, poor, rootless and happy.

>"The Washington Post last month reported her reason for going, quoting from her own 2009 obituary: McCarthy “asked her to ‘get a day job so he could focus on his novel writing’ even though she was already ‘caring for [their infant son Cullen] and tending to the chores of the house.’”"

Do you think literary ambition justifies this kind of thing?

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What is a good English translation of the Talmud?
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>>23630406
If you think your picrel is the good stuff, I pass anon
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>>23630513
Suit yourself.
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>>23630406
What book is this?
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>>23630558
The Candle of Vision by George William Russell.
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>>23630331
Idk. Sefaria seems to present two good enough versions to me (Babylon &Jerusalem).
https://www.sefaria.org/texts/Talmud/Yerushalmi

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My favourite authors are BAP, Evola, Guenon, Hitler, Nick Land, Moldbug, Strauss, Aquinas, Spengler, and Rand. They helped me form a comprehensive and coherent worldview. Who else should I read?
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>>23629616
>BAP
Cringe
Evola
Half cringe half based
>Guenon
Cringe
>Hitler
Cringe
>Nick Land
Cringe
>Moldbug
Half cringe half based
>Strauss
Based

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>>23629616
Weininger, Gentile, Proudhon, Nietzsche, Stalin, Heidegger and Deleuze
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>>23629616
nope that's the entire Western Canon. you're good anon.
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>>23629616
So fvckin zased
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>>23629616
In Minecraft: You should have your brains blow apart with a shotgun and have the grey matter splay over all that filth (except Spengler and Aquinas -- maybe Strauss who I haven't read). Then your brain would be put to good use while you eat shit in hell, you pseudointellectual insentient vermin.


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