So, if Aristotle is a nominalist, then how do you avoid turning his theory of mind into a work of solipsism and representationalism? What is the mind grasping other than its own mental creations? What is the relationship between mental creations and the things those mental creations (as cognitive acts) are supposed to recognize?
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As always none of you are defining your terms. But words like realism and nominalism have changed meaning over time. Most of you think a nominalist is someone who thinks truth is “just in our heads”. But the word nominalist can mean someone who denies that universals Exist, ie are independent entities of some kind. Most of you won’t even grasp the significance of this distinction. Aristotle was definitely a nominalist by this definition, so was Aquinas for that matter (Coplestone for instance characterizes him as a moderate nominalist). If you want an overview check out the Sep article on medieval theories of universals, it’s a good one. I get annoyed by pseuds here who think Aristotle believed in something like (immanent) Forms because he actually constantly argues against this position. Beyond that, it’s complicated, but most of you have no idea what you’re talking about and should simply study Aristotle. I’ve given my arguments against Avicenna’s essence existence distinction many times as it is and it’s a waste of time because most of you are not serious readers and have no way to understand or evaluate what I’m saying. “But… but… everyone knows Aristotle was a moderate realist!” Depending on how you define this, he could be characterized that way, and I’ve said as much in the past. This always comes down to “but… catness IS real!” You don’t know what the debate is about and I absolutely despise you.
>>24760826>Aquinas was also a nominalist
Like for you to think the denial of subsistence of universals = solipsism is simply bizarre. Solipsism is wrong for the same reason any other radical skeptic theory is wrong for Aristotle. Do you know what that is? As for “representationalism” - what do you mean by this? Yes, an abstract concept like cat is not identical to a particular cat, which has its own essence as a living creature and its own particular nature (see for example meta 12 in the first few lectios, or the opinion/science distinction in post an 1, or what he says about the relation of universals to particulars in meta 13, or what he says about primary and secondary substance in the categories, etc). All universals are representations in that sense and this is what he argues for. It’s incredible that what I’m saying is even controversial, even my “nemesis” Aquinas would agree with what I just said. Just fucking READ THE BOOKS, carefully and repeatedly. But I know most of you are too retarded for Aristotle.
>>24759629You were right. Another classic crashout.
Can someone recommend some books for someone who has never been into literature. I'm interested in philosophy, spirituality, or just about anything. I have a Christian background but I'm not well read on that either and I'm open to all other forms of religion.
Read The Solar Anus by Bataille
>>24760387The Life Divine by Sri Aurobindo
>>24760393it's still kinda top 5 even after you listen to all their material
Unironically just read The Hobbit if you're literally Brand New to books. The Hobbit is a children's book but if you don't read at all it's not a bad place to start.
>>24760387Hogg
Why is this Turkic faggot currently astroturfing The Camp of the Saints?
>>24761161Panagiotis Kondylis would be better. He actually explains hoe demographics are destiny, which modern states live in constant retardation of. Third world, reactionary people will replace europeans because nobody wants to have kids and economics have jack shit to do with it.
>>24759526>Patreon banned Benjamin in December 2018, when he was earning over US$12,000 a month.[11] According to Patreon, Benjamin violated the site's rules on hate speech by using "racial and homophobic slurs to degrade another individual"Well damn, 12k a month being a public intellectual really does pay off and he knows his audience.
>>24761173I don't know why one of these nations with birth rate troubles won't just bite the bullet and ban birth control. Why South Korea hasn't done it at this point baffles me. Just give all your women the finger and take their birth control away. It's for their own good.
>>24759526Your reality is fake
>>24761173I would but consent is a thing and I don't want to go to prison.
>>24760793Death to France
RIP. he btfo dennett and that was really funny to read about.
Are you well-educated, /lit/?>Nonetheless, our lack of a well-defined objective is not a good enough reason to avoid stating some features of a general theory of education. In fact, it does not seem to me very difficult to describe some of the necessary conditions for being a well-educated person.>First, the student should have enough knowledge of his or her cultural tradition to know how it got to be the way it is. This involves both political and social history, on the one hand, as well as the mastery of some of the great philosophical and literary texts of the culture on the other. It involves reading not only texts that are of great value, like those of Plato, but many less valuable that have been influential, such as the works of Marx. For the United States, the dominant tradition is, and for the foreseeable future, will remain the European tradition. The United States is, after all, a product of the European Enlightenment. However, you do not understand your own tradition if you do not see it in relation to others. Works from other cultural traditions need to be studied as well.>If these two streams, both the political-social and the philosophical-literary, are well organized and well taught, the claims of the various minorities should have their place. Intelligently taught social and political histories of Europe and the United States, for example, should recognize the history of all of the major components of European and American society, including those that have been treated unjustly. It is important, however, to get rid of the ridiculous notion that there is something embarrassing or lamentable about the fact that most of the prominent political and intellectual leaders of our culture over the past two thousand years or so have been white males. This is just a historical fact whose causes should be explored and understood. To deny it or attempt to suppress the works of such thinkers is not simply racism, it is unintelligent.>Second, you need to know enough of the natural sciences so that you are not a stranger in the world. This means, at a minimum, that you need to know enough about physics and chemistry to understand how the physical world is constructed. This would also include at least a smattering of knowledge of the general and special theories of relativity, and an understanding of why quantum mechanics is so philosophically challenging. Furthermore, at a minimum, you must have enough biology to understand the Darwinian revolution, and to understand recent developments in genetics and microbiology.>Third, you need to know enough about how society works so that you understand what a trade cycle is, or how interest rates will affect the value of the currency, for example. In short, you need to have some knowledge of the subject matter that used to be called political economy.
>>24761218>Fourth, you need to know at least one foreign language well enough so that you can read the best literature that that language has produced in the original, and so you carry on a reasonable conversation and have dreams in that language. There are several reasons why this is crucial, but the most important is perhaps this: you can never understand one language until you understand at least two.>Fifth, you need to know enough philosophy so that the methods of logical analysis are available to you to be used as a tool. One of the most depressing things about educated people today is that so few of them, even among professional intellectuals, are able to follow the steps of a simple logical argument.>Finally, and perhaps most importantly, you need to acquire the skills of writing and speaking that make for candor, rigor, and clarity. You cannot think clearly if you cannot speak and write clearly.>Just acquiring this amount of "education" will not, by itself, make you an educated person, even less will it give you what Oakeshott calls "judgment." But if the manner of instruction is adequate, the student should be able to acquire this much knowledge in a way that combines intellectual openness, critical scrutiny, and logical clarity. If so, learning will not stop when the student leaves the university. None of the books I have been reading about higher education makes even these elementary points.https://www.ditext.com/searle/searle1.html
>>24761220Man he'd hate me. My foreign linguistic skills are below average.
Humbert should have killed her
>>24759834>This is patently wrong.no it isn't lol. what are you talking about? "the novel has nothing do do with the trial"? which book did you read?>When I started, fifty-six days ago, to write Lolita (...) I thought I would use these notes in toto at my trial (...) In mid-composition, however, I realized that I could not parade living Lolita. I still may use parts of this memoir in hermetic sessions, but publication is to be deferred."hermetic sessions," as in closed sessions of the court. he very much did intend and continues to plan to use the text at his trial, as evidenced by the penultimate paragraph of the whole thing being a plea regarding his sentence, directed to the literal judge. of course the trial never happens because hh drops dead, but the text is absolutely portrayed as both a document for direct legal use AND a memoir to be published later. this means it had to be written with the knowledge that it would be subject to verification. in fact, even the author of the fictional foreword has performed some fact-checking: he knows which town "ramsdale" really is, he has interviewed the neighbors etc, and yet mentions no revelations about charlotte's death - because she died the way humbert describes.i don't know how many times i have to go over this. the carefully constructed frame narrative makes the idea that he's lying about basic plot events untenable. humbert didn't kill charlotte. get over it.>You are reading this novel the wrong wayglass houses bro
>>24760067In the same line, he says he's writing his account not to save his life but to save his soul. He also addresses winged jurors at one point. He could absolutely be using "hermetic sessions" in the other sense. This is a point of interpretation. >glass houses broMore important than the conclusion, reading this book the right way is being open to the ambiguity of its narrative, while trying to discern the truth of the author's invented world behind Humbert's mask. I'm glad you've at least conceded that Humbert is manipulating the audience. I don't see why you're so against the idea that he could be fabricating events in the plot, when he clearly fictionalizes other details, lies by omission, is manipulative and dishonest in his presentation, etc. When you already have this gradient of dishonesty, why draw the line at the outright lie?
>>24750679he did nigga, he ruined her life and led her down a path that got her killed at 18
>>24760721>This is a point of interpretation.no it isn't. whatever other metaphorical or spiritual "jurors" he could be argued to be addressing, it is always ALSO a literal confession to a literal jury because "jailed man writes confession for his trial" is the premise and literal plot of the novel. you cannot interpret that away.>I'm glad you've at least conceded that Humbert is manipulating the audience. i haven't "conceded" a thing and you're a dishonest little weasel. changing names for privacy is not manipulation. withholding the identity of quilty for dramatic effect is normal storytelling. he "manipulates" the audience only to the degree all storytellers do, and one of his chief tools is frankness. can you frankly concede that the shit you've been writing itt, like "the novel has nothing to do with the trial," is just blatantly stupid and wrong? or are you less honest than humbert? suddenly when you're caught writing nonsense "conclusions" don't matter, only open-mindedness? come on.>I don't see why you're so against the idea that he could be fabricating events in the plotfor the reasons i have outlined in detail multiple times and that you still pretend not to understand.
>>24760927>you cannot interpret that away.Watch me:But in all seriousness, there's really very little to show that Humbert intends the book as a defense in court. Like genuinely what kind of court would admit a book that's 90% "oh woe is me I'm a hebephile". The people who term it "confessions of a white widowed male" or whatever are psychologists added to the frame, mostly to make fun of the psychological and moral interpretations. One of the people John Ray cites is literally named White-Blackman.I will give you a much more plausible and interesting interpretation than this one, given in the final paragraph: “I am thinking of aurochs and angels, the secret of durable pigments, prophetic sonnets, the refuge of art. And this is the only immortality you and I may share, my Lolita.” The novel is intended as a completion of his bluebeard arc with Lolita, "safely solipsising" her after death as he remembered her. In the same way that in the tennis scene we see that Dolores has not been broken in the way Humbert imagines--note the butterfly crossing the court--the novel Humbert creates as a piece of dead art is instead living, a game played with the audience.
>character doesn't pee or poop throughout the entire story
>>24759455in computer science they call it abstraction
>>24758214>I was waiting desperately for my turn in line to pee before my interview. A fart bubbled in my rectum, causing unfathomable agony, that I can not let it go and risk pissing myself, and that holding it in perpetuates this indescribable pain. As the line ahead of me dwindles, I sweat profusely and my perception dulls. At some point I realize there's nobody in front of me, and someone from behind, with the most friendly of intentions, pats my ass to move me forward.>Oh, no.>The dam is released and a fart that registers at more decibels than anyone can imagine shreds the ears of anyone within ten meters, and my bladder expels what feels like two gallons of fluid. I slump on the floor immediately, knowing that I have completely ruined any hope of succeeding with this interview.
>>24758214>He peed, felt a pressure in his behind at the force exerted on his prostate, ceased his stream, sat, and forced. Only a fart. The pee resumed, slightly cloudy and foamy, yellow as Lemonheads.
>>24761135That's hilarious.
>>24761210Thanks, anon!
What are some books that show with cogent reasoning that humans are worthless animals who deserve annihilation?No environmentalist drivel.
Post your own work and critique others.
>>24729495very good execution actually
>>24750387man door hand hook car door
The bilious ballad of bards bowlsSitting pon porcelain tempest and howlsTwisting tempest in his tummy, grimace with swollen jowlsMethane fueled flatulence was his verse from theThe sloppy Indian food, his worst Twas the kind that curdles creamA stinging ring a yelp, then a screamSo strain on dearest bard - spill your spastic sonnets slime Your thrones only a temporary tomb, whereas my stools are sublime
>>24758997I was no lonesome loaderNor a frostbit fiber-optic fogI was the end game engineer, devouring data like a dogSync your soul, sub-route your romantic spill, all in spite Just log off, lost lamb: loading’s over, due to perilous screen glaring lightYour cursor, sad in despair so hit enter, embrace the endYour echo fades, my reign - eternal never needing to amend
>>24749029Your maiden mockedWhorish verses vexedNever will to be sexed A blushing bard of bovine bloodGenitalia akin to crudCheeks aflame with cheap chagrinHeart? Or merely hampster wheel within?Bliss of bilge and of blusterNothing more than lusty dusterYet onward we goOafish ode-weaver Just to touch a wenches beaver!Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Is Junky worth reading as my first Burroughs?
Is opium /lit/?
>>24760655if you loved junkie and naked lunch you will like cities of the red night too, it actually has a story thats pretty coherent for burroughs standarts. It actually contains several different stories that are connected. It has noir, bit of scifi, occult and adventure. Bit of lovecraft influence. Reminded me of cloud atlas. In the end it gets a bit too spacey and burroughs rehashes a few things and motives from his earlier stuff but it was a pretty fun read. And it isnt too long. But the penguin edition has one of the ugliest covers ever, so beware, maybe get another one. Fucking ginsberg made the coverpic i think. I hate this fuck so much. My biggest criticism of burroughs is that he was friends with that fucking prick
>>24756975theres a book titled "A Philosophy On Walking" which has an entire chapter dedicated to Nietzche and how his extreme volume of walking coincided with his cognitive ability. i dont recall a single mention of him using opium. i felt like the chapter was kinda sus bc i never heard of this habit of his before and the fact that it directly implies his exercise alone dictated his mental health makes me disappointed in that book after reading this
>>24760888His walking is well known. I've heard of it before.
>>24756820How does one score opium nowadays? Is that even possible?
>>24761178Ah, wait: according to a Google search, it turns out here in the west, pure opium can't really be found easily, and most "opium" that can be found in non-medical settings is Heroin, an opium derivative.How fucking gay
The Eyes of the Overworld, Cugel’s Saga and Rhialto the Marvelous obviously draw a lot of inspiration from Journey to the West>He said also, “Bodhisattva, I have devoured countless human beings at this place. There have even been a number of scripture pilgrims here, and I ate all of them. The heads of those I devoured I threw into the Flowing Sand, and they sank to the bottom, for such is the nature of this water that not even goose down can float on it. But the skulls of the nine pilgrims floated on the water and would not sink. Regarding them as something unusual, I chained them together with a rope and played with them at my leisure. If this becomes known, I fear that no other scripture pilgrim will want to come this way. Won’t it jeopardize my future?”Anthony Wu translation He also draws a lot from Gulliver’s Travels>These articles were brought to me by Skyresh Bolgolam in person attended by two under-secretaries, and several persons of distinction. After they were read, I was demanded to swear to the performance of them; first in the manner of my own country, and afterwards in the method prescribed by their laws; which was, to hold my right foot in my left hand, and to place the middle finger of my right hand on the crown of my head, and my thumb on the tip of my right ear.
Books on how to be a good person?I don't know if I'm just austic, poorly raised, or just a bad person but I unintentionally mastered the fine art of the faux pas.
>>24760124
>>24760124>Books on how to be a good person?just watch cuck porn that's what it means today
>>24760397What book though?
>>24760124The Bib-Oh wait if you’re autistic that’s probably to non-literal for you. The Jeffersonian Bible then.
>>24760752>Jeffersonian BibleI know you're being sarcastic but thank you
>Everywhere it is obvious that if beauty makes a display of beauty, it is sheer ugliness. It is obvious that if goodness makes a display of goodness, it is sheer badness.
>>24760979>>24760981Matthew 6:6: But when you pray, go into your room, shut the door, and pray to your Father who is in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
appearances badthings in themselves good
>>24760979>everything is...the opposite of what it iswow such profound wisdom thanks chinks
Imagine a beautiful woman dressing in a way that leaves little to the imagination. She looks trashy
a corollary of the scholastic principle that "the good is diffusive of itself", is that "beauty makes itself known". it doesn't need any added help. or look at it like diminishing returns to scale. 'beauty' is the optimal scale, and any additional scale (through ostentation) diminishes beauty.
What books have you recently purchased /lit/? I just got this at a flea market for five dollars.
I found a first edition hardcover of Vineland at a thrift store for one dollar.A month ago I found Annihilation (Houellebecq) for two dollars and it looked new.
>>24759850tell me you bought the first edition.
>>24759449>>24759498>>24759850Nice. I also got these recently, just purchased regularly this time. I wonder what kinds of books I could dig up by rummaging around some local thrift stores.
>>24759454Why do Americans buy books when they can't read?
>>24760910Inferiority complex. They think if they pose their chud book alongside their firearm they're impressing somebody like they're some kind of warrior-philosopher, when they're just jingoistic retards.
What exactly is a "big word"? Is it just a cope for illiterate people?
>>24760089Big words are just for show; plain speech wins. Words with more than one beat just puff up the text.
>>24761122>his post is actually only one syllable wordsFuck off