How can someone be so accurate and so skilled in expressing in words the introspection of the human condition? Does anyone even come close?
>>23322527>Shakespeare>Proust>Kafka>Mishima
>>23322527David Foster Wallace >>23323357Let's hear it. Dick on the motherfucking table
>>23322527Fernando Pessoa
>>23322527Léon Bloy
>>23322527did i fuck up by reading TBK first and not saving it for last?
Feel like I was too much dumbfuck back then to appreciate Steinbeck's Of Mice and Men, and I get the impression that, what was a beautiful emotional reading experience was completely lost on me at the time because of that fact. Glad enough time has passed to give it another shot. hbu?
>>23325916I liked OMaM in high school. I just got a copy of Catcher, not sure if I missed anything with that one. I have a pretty good memory, though.
I want to give Great Gatsby another go because I love every other Fitzgerald book I’ve read as an adult.I want to go back through Grapes of Wrath again but that’s because it was actually a very formative piece of art for me. I’m working on East of Eden though so it’s on the back burner for now.
>>23325916I liked of mice and men at the time but have never gone back to read it. I do feel like it'd be a good reread. My favorite book we read in high school was definitely Ralph Ellison's Invisible Man.
What does /lit/ think about Chevengur?
>>23322012Foundation Pit is just pure concentrated schizo rambling, it starts off really well but I completely lost him in the latter parts of the book, after some point I genuinely had no idea what the fuck he was on about.
Bump
>>23321185Platonov got new translations in my country recently. I have this at home, waiting for The Foundation Pit. All of them are accompanied by selected critical texts, soon some short stories will be published too. So no opinion but also curious, there's not much discussion about Chevengur or Platonov in general though from I gathered Chevengur is meant to be his masterpiece.
>>23322012Very very good to be fair.
This book is absolutely freezing cold. There is no passion, no love and no vitality whatsoever in the Lamb household, it is of course not permitted. Horace Lamb, the father and head of the family, is maybe a perfect ascetic, physically, mentally and spiritually, his only desire is to make use of as little of the life around and inside him as he can. Yet he is also at all times clutching at a kind of perverted, polite Victorian domestic tyranny at all times. Very reminiscent of certain Dickensian characters, but for me in many ways even more disturbing than the likes of Scrooge or a Uriah Heep.As for the titular manservant and maidservant, the butler Bullivant who has "served the master for forty-five years" and the family cook Mrs. Selden, it seems to me that they for the most part serve as extensions of Horace's ascetic ideals for much of this novel, perpetuating the generational misery through their influence on the younger servants, the orphan Miriam and workhouse boy George. Even more than Mortimer or Horace's wife Charlotte, it seems that their lives can only exist if the master does, or at least the correct kind of master since "not even Mr. Mortimer has the mien of one having authority, as the master had."Some of the most strangely written children you're ever going to come across in any book. So much of this book feels like a kind of exaggerated homage to the domestic drama of Victorian literature, and nowhere is this clearer than in the Lamb children, especially in their speech. The vernacular of the children feels completely to odds with the reality of their lives. Despite it being brought up several times that not even all of them can read or write, and the eldest of the flock being only about a dozen years old, they all still argue, speak and reason in an even more serious manner than you would expect adults to, and often times they do. However strange this stylization might be, I don't think it takes away any of the sympathy that you might develop for the children and their situation, I know it didn't for me. There isn't for example, almost any scene with children that I can remember affecting me more than the beyond miserable Christmas Day that they are subjected to by their father, and despite the severity of their speech all the emotion behind it feels real.
>>23323766In some ways worse off than the children, who still at least have the potential of future adulthood intact and in front of them, are Horace's wife and his cousin Mortimer, who despite planning to elope and escape from Horace's miserly, tyrannical grasp, realise when Horace falls ill and seems to be not long for this world that there is really nothing they can do other than remain in submission to his will. Both are absolute dependents and are incapable of leading life on their own terms, as is showcased further by Mortimer during his time alone after being banished from the household by his cousin after his desired, but ultimately unsuccessful transgression comes to light.Ivy Compton-Burnett has a clearly defined mission in writing this novel, and from what I understand her task is very similar in several of her novels, that being trying to understand the domestic tyranny that certainly was in her household, as it has been in countless since the very beginning of the concept of family. The kind of cruelty on display here has a more unique, and assuredly more personal, Victorian flavour to it. Its a kind of intellectual brutality which rather than any outward violence or displays of control, deals in politeness, insinuations and a twisting of logic to subdue ones opposition and over time rot away any instinct they might have to rebel or attempt to live in one's own way.
>>23323766You ever read Portrait of a Lady? This sounds great though, she's very interesting to me.
>>23323927no but I definitely need to read some James at some point
>>23325522It deals with some similar themes. Also just very good ofc.
I've just realised that just because you are best of the best doesn't mean that you are strong minded. Infact the best can be incredibly weak-minded, pic-related. What books help you build a strong-mind?
It's really not that surprising that he got messed up from what happened and is searching out ways to cope with it. If you think about it he was basically sexually assaulted combined with being defeated. When he talked about that game he was intimately describing the feeling of helplessness
>>23324402It isn't being weakminded. .Him and all the other chess players are freaking out and are becoming super paranoid because over covid the illusion that cheating is rare has been shattered. Think about making your livelyhood doing something where it's incredibly easy to cheat, cheatin guarantees a win and it's impossible to detect. And that there are many high level cheaters, estimates from grandmasters range from 5%-50% based on how paranoid they are. Chess is dying and Ai killed it.
reminds me of the luhzin defence.
Maybe people shouldn't hide chess engines in their rectums.
>>23325611Got a real badass over here lmfao
Where does Jung talk about heroic individuation and facing the Dragon?
bump
>>23324286This is a little more Campbell than Jung I think (Joseph Campbell, of the Hero’s Journey/God with a Thousand Faces), although Campbell was clearly very influenced by Jung. I’m sure Jung speaks of the archetype of the serpent/serpent imagery/by extension the dragon in at least some parts, though. Bump to see if someone else can contribute better
Symbols of Transformation kind of. You're better off reading Origins and History of Consciousness
>>23325048>Origins and History of ConsciousnessSeconding this. Campbell and Neumann are better primers on Jung than anything by Jung.
>>23325010He discusses themes like these in relation to the "journey into the desert" in Archetypes of the Collective Unconscious.
Do I gotta read The Hobbit before Lord of the Rings?I mean I get the gist of The Hobbit and think I may have read it when I was a kid.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC35cQKHwzg
You don’t have to but unlike the movies I found the Hobbit superior to LOTR. The Hobbit movies are absolute garbage
Not really, but it's a funny little book that introduces you to the universe, specialyl the shire
>>23325911The structure of the Hero's Journey is a lot clearer, and the fantasy archetypes inspired by 19th century Germanic folklore are a lot more evident, yeah. It definitely feels different and like it could actually stand on its own relative to LOTR.
>>23324578Not necessary but I highly recommend you read it, anyways. Peak comfy imo and it won't be time wasted.
>>23325900Three books split into two parts each. To Tolkien, though, it was just one big book but was forced to publish it as a trilogy
The movie is probably nobody's favorite, but having read the whole Fleming series twice this is the one I keep coming back to>Nigger Heaven, hands down the best Fleming's travelogue writing ever got> Mr. Big, 'What if Fu Manchu was black' and it fucking WORKS> First shark pit in the franchise>> 'He disagreed with something that ate him'> Death by coral keelhaul> Bond hits this mf with a fucking BOMB and it's still barely enough to kill himDon't get me wrong, later books have their good points, but the villain alone makes this one GOAT
>>23325620I love the McCartney song, haven’t read the book
I've read a couple and have to agree this book was great. The diving scenes in particularI also remember a chapter named Nigger Heaven
>>23325620I'm sure the book was fun enough, but you retards are really too easily impressed. Throw in a bit of racism and you're simping like teen girls at a boy band concert. It's ridiculous.
Moonraker was the best book>starts off after Bond’s gf leaves him for a U.S. Marine and he is sad>doesn’t even get the love interest in the story because at the end she says “oh btw this is my boyfriend”>no traveling>no glamour, Bond has to eat at the cafeteria >kino bridge card came>best puns>he saves the day by diverting the nuke to kill Frenchmen
>>23325937>No glamourBro what, Bond spends the first chapters eating at the poshest club in London on his boss's dime. Takes fucking bzd in his champagne
>Heracles
Testacles
>>23324071>Iason
>The Ulyssesiad
>>23324357>>23324360>>23324367*ser*kleu-
>Akhilleus
What Kant was trying to do was tell philosophers>why the fuck are you trying to run "does God exist.exe", "Total Annihilation" and "Do we have a soul.exe", at the same time on a 1998 IBM you fucking retard. It doesn't have the specs to handle it.But some other retard had to say>works fine on my machineSo Kant had to lay, in detail, the specs of the computer, what could be added, what came with the manufacturer, what could be inputted/ outputted, as well as all the general principles of a 1998 shitbox, so he could try to definitely say what programs could be run and what couldn't. This analogy is useful in explaining the limitation of the human intellect, but fortunately the human brain as material correlate to the human intellect is organic and capable of growth and change in a way an inorganic electronic computer is not. To run DoesGodExist.exe on an inorganic electronic computer you would need a computer that already had those specs, if not, you'd have to get a new computer, or upgrade with after market parts; on an organic computer, you can start with one that may not be able to run it yet, but can, in time, develop and grow itself to be able to run it. And the same goes with the human body. In fact, this is what I believe the Greys to be. Imagine the intellectual capacities of beings with significantly more vast and complex neural matter correlate, even a more complex physiological matter correlate as a whole. Kant actually addresses this in the first critique as well:>It is, moreover, not necessary that we should limit the mode of intuition in space and time to the sensuous faculty of man. It may well be that all finite thinking beings must necessarily in this respect agree with man (though as to this we cannot decide)...>It may be true that there are intelligible existences to which our faculty of sensuous intuition has no relation>...the categories do in some measure really extend further than sensuous intuition, inasmuch as they think objects in general, without regard to the mode (of sensibility) in which these objects are given. But they do not for this reason apply to and determine a wider sphere of objects, because we cannot assume that such can be given, without presupposing the possibility of another than the sensuous mode of intuition...>we cannot form the most distant conception of the possibility of an understanding which should cognize an object, not discursively by means of categories, but intuitively in a non-sensuous intuition...Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>23321997You can't do anything practical without a metaphysics dummy. Knowing what is real, the whole point of metaphysics, is the grounds for doing EVERYTHING else.
>>23325432this
>>23325181ok I feeling generous
>>23325137>t. doesn't get the difference between an argument and an aphorismFiltered
>>23321997>thinks metaphysics is impracticalYou wouldn't get it.
In this thread you will post about the life and works of Count Lev Tolstoy
>>23325786the Kreutzer sonata is so good. I don't agree fully with the ideas but honestly I think its as good as Death of Ivan Illych,
>>23325810Pretty common actually, write what you know they say for a reason. Ishmael never got on a whaler in real life, but Melville sure did.
>>23325858Melville didn't insert himself into the book by saying "Hey, I'm Melville, here's what happened to me and why I wrote Moby Dick"
>>23325810Does he really say "Hello I am Tolstoy" in Hadji Murat? I just assumed it was the narrator.
>>23325942He explicitly doesn't say it's him, but it is. In his diaries he talks about the same thing happening to him (finding a thistle in razed dirt) and how it made him think of Hadji Murat, and then decided to write a book about him
what do femcels read?
>>23325429The problem with the example you mentioned is that she was dealing with Chinese men, and they're manchildren suffering from 'Little Emperor Syndrome'.>t. spent a decade there
>>23325258Only an incredibly small minority of people can actually claim to be a Nazi (not at all as if it is a bad thing). Chances are you are classically liberal enough to dare to read one of the zany right wing power fantasies as an indication of your roundness.
>>23325258Maybe the real Nazis were the friends we made along the way.
>>23325198I just want to poop on her man, I just want to poop on her. I fantasize all the time about pooping on pretty girls.
>>23325198not a femcel, she has a (lanklet) bf (male (?))>>23325920surprisingly, would not be surprised if she let you shit on her.>Everything dating has taught me, and continues to teach me, strengthens my belief in the sluttiness of nerdy girls after constant stimulation—Werner Braun
give me some schizo core books. the more esoteric/weird, the better. i have a feeling they may hold true knowledge past all the hand wavey bullshit, just think about it. continuously aiming and approximating and getting silly wit it is bound to lead us towards some unmovable truth. right anons? so far, i know of the kyblion, emerald tablet, secret teachings of all ages. post more
>>23322885what was that other thing :P
>>23322981why?
>>23322945searched them up and nothing comes up. they must be super rare. what are the books even about?
>>23322931what are the consequences of reading such an intimidating looking book
Where the bee sucks, there suck I:In a cowslip’s bell I lie;There I couch when owls do cry.On the bat’s back I do flyAfter summer merrily. Merrily, merrily shall I live nowUnder the blossom that hangs on the bough.
>>23321222feet
bump for the qt lady
>>23323169No possible way that's a tranny, passes way too much and has feminine feet
>>23325410The face is clearly a gay man's.
>>23321222built for my big brown cock
Pretty poem. Is it any consolation (the only consolation?) to spend your life consciously in service of something? Not to go all Tartar Steppe or anything.
>>23325687That's called 'anchoring' which is a form of cope.
>>23325689Sure, but it offers the appearance of meaning, and if my life will slip away regardless then I dont understand the issue with grasping for the pretty flower rather than the sturdy branch, if neither will save me.Is it just the self delusion that bothers you? Are you claiming to lead a fully lucid life at all times?
>I'm a fucking loser: the poem
>>23325738Yes, I main-line reality throughout each and every day.
