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>You dumb bitch how dare you have a better life than me? I am a delusional retard and I will kill you now
>NOOO WHY DID I DO IT IM SUCH A RETARD AACK
>Gets raped in a gulag
Is Rasolnikov a metaphor for russia? It encapsulates their mindset perfectly up to the present day
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>>25548574
Gas is way cheaper here, or is your time worth nothing? I can drive to a gas station, fill up my car for 70 euros and be home 10m after heading out. Whether it's 70, 30 or 200 euros is irrelevant to me: I make enough to not 'feel' the price difference. Yeah that's completely comparable to some Russian spending 39h in a fucking queue. Give me a break.

On an unrelated note: I like high gas prices, driving cars should be an elite thing.
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>>25572716
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Embarassing.
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Books on how russians defend izzat?
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>>25555481
That is not the determining factor in who will win. For instance look at the vietnam war, vietnam paid a far higher price than the us did in terms of the harm done to their people. They still won.
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He's holding the axe head the wrong direction and its pissing me the FUCK off.

Gave picrel a try because I saw ssf(a)g recommend it, and I was looking for an in-depth, lengthy series. It's abysmal dogshit. The prose and dialogue are so ponderous and unnatural and faggy that it's ruining the whole experience. I don't care about Faggersail or Fagazan or Faggorella because they all talk like stilted redditors. Every character speaks with the same cadence and autistic pacing as every other character. Every paragraph is packed with redundant, flow-breaking adjectives and bizarre similes. I'm about a third of the way through. Be real with me, Malazanons. Does it get better, or should I quit while I'm ahead?
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>>25574207
Some characters have very fun dialogue imo (Krupp, Tehol) but the things Erikson is good at are kind of specific with lots of holes.

Reminds me of Kim Stanley Robinson in a way where there are aspects that are 10/10 which make the glaring flaws worth it.
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Book two is so fucking bleak it's honestly brilliant. It hurt.
I recall not feeling too much either way about book 1, decided to keep reading for some reason, and then enjoying it (to a degree). Wasn't a fan of the ending to the overall series but I also don't know what I was expecting, to not spoil anything.

Wheel of Time is a more preferable long form fantasy to me but it had its own share of flaws.
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>>25572231
It's only good if you read it with the right mindset. What's happening on the page is almost always just part of a proxy conflict between immortal powers, and figuring out what's going on is part of the mystery. The characters feel insignificant because they are.
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>>25572231
Gardens of the Moon is awesome though? I remember that dude holding the bag of bones of his dead mage wife and it evokes intense gothic imagery. Like the castle parts in the second Black Company book. Then you get all those rooftop parts with assassins and tiste andi with perfect prose. It only gets better too.
>The chain of dogs
>the siege of capustan
>karsa orlong
>ALL of midnight tides
sheeesh. What a fucking series. it's been over a decade but I want to go back to it now.
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>>25572231
>Gave picrel a try because I saw ssf(a)g recommend it
Oof~

>Does it get better
It does, but not by enough to leave the dogshit tier desu.

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ITT: we recommend good books we don't think the average reader has read yet.

No trolling please
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>>25571674
Kys
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>>25571377
Retarded slut
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>>25574048
There's a Reddit thread where Watts answers a bunch of Echo plot questions. (There's like three threads total about the series if you look hard.)
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>>25574048
Lianna is not a very interesting or memorable character, but I dont think she's really supposed to be.
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>>25574109
I know.

>>25574264
>Lianna is not a very interesting or memorable character
Not only she is boring - she is also completely pointless.

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What is gender exactly?
I know and can understand the definition of gender as it has to do with linguistics, which is to say it's a property of nouns and adjectives and so on, but there is a secondary (maybe primary?) definition and I can't quite grasp it. Below are some examples
>A polite way to refer to sex
This one makes the most sense to me. In this way, the genders would exclusively be male and female. You can make sure that the term is used to refer to this when reading biology books and noting that scientists refer to the gender of fish, for instance. Certainly fish do not have any societal norms by which to separate sexes.
>The genus of the terms "masculine" and "feminine"
This is again tied to linguistics, and I guess it conveys some sort of information related to culture and society as well. I think the problem with this definition as it pertains to feminists or otherwise trans-inclusive minded people is that there are feminine men and masculine women who identify as men and women respectively (which is to say cis). In other words, you can have masculine men and feminine men and they all belong to the same gender.
>A descriptor for maturity, species and sex
People often define "woman" as "adult human female" and "man" as "adult human male", then attempt to assert only two genders. Of course, if this is the case, "juvenile human female" (girl) becomes another gender, as does "adult chicken male" (rooster) which leaves us with near-infinite genders.
>A term for social sex
This I think is maybe the most worthwhile of the definitions, but it's circular and ultimately meaningless, when you consider that that the social norms associated with a gender are ultimately based on sex, and that said norms vary so much across cultures that there is no actual social sex to speak of. Meaning, a woman in one culture is a man in another.
Your thoughts?
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>>25572303
>there are pretty trannies
LOL
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>>25574302
try reading the remainder of that sentence, it's only a few words more.
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>>25568001
It exists in language. That's where it exists.
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>>25567738
>What is gender exactly?
Cultural psychosis.

The equivalent of an artist shitting on a canvas and calling it art, while being paid by the government to do so.
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>>25567796
>Bourdieu wrote a quip somewhere like "if you think sex and gender are the same thing, you think a brave young boy who helps his grandma carry her groceries is courting her".
As the old saying goes, you need to be highly educated to be this stupid

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just *finished* zettel's traum and started nobodaddy's children today, but I'm still looking for something more challenging to dedicate my time to (ideally in english if possible)
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>>25560801
finally some architecture reading
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>>25567754
no.

he had a wife, she drunkenly fell out her apartment window. he was put on trial, he was not convicted. while there is likely some new doc about the whole thing out there somewhere, the most recent doc about her declined to mention the whole debacle at all.
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>>25567757
>>25566654
where were you when i was posting my erotic female thoughts/concrete poetry threads?
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Bumping and reviving so that I may post a bunch of bookino later
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>>25567478
Max, why do you like the word "palpate" so much?

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Is this the greatest book cover of all time?
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>>25574024
you rotated it and cropped her nostril to make it so much worse. jesus
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>>25567231
You know, for one glorious second I thought this was the "NIGGERS could be here" photo.
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>>25570008
Schizo ramble but with a kernel of truth in it. Anybody who's read Ada will be aware that Nabby's interest in little girls getting fucked was prurient to some degree.
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>>25574024
ToT
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>>25574024
Now THIS is degenerate

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>A woman's torment is not a man's tyranny but his indifference

What did Michelet mean by this
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Women handle rejection worse than men lol
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>>25573373
He was just tapping into the older (better) social contract. In the world without capitalism, society would banish a person for certain social infractions. Since no one can live in a vacuum, and loners that do try this don't last as long as the social animal, shunning, indifference, banishment, are fates as cruel as death. We all need one another and to feel desired. And Michelet is a closeted homosexual who hated women
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>>25573373
He was just simping for cute girl to whom he send a copy of the book
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>>25573373
that he didn't read the yellow wallpaper
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>>25573373
An abused woman is still in the game, if the man leaves there's just nothing there for her

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I don't understand why people say he's Christian. Tolstoy didn't believe in Jesus Christ, the Messiah sent by God to bring salvation to humanity. He believed in Jesus Christ, the moral teacher who taught ethics to the 1st century jews. He didn't believe in the miracles, in the resurrection, in Heaven and Hell. Can you really call someone Christian if that person strips Christ of all His divinity? To me he seems more agnostic than Christian.
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>>25562758
>Can you really call someone Christian if that person strips Christ of all His divinity?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism
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>>25562758
you're asking the question the church asks — do you affirm the doctrine? — and that's why "agnostic" looks like the clean answer. but agnosticism is a shrug, and tolstoy wasn't shrugging. he kept the part that did the work (the ethic as a demand you live) and dropped the part that's supposed to explain it (the metaphysics). he wasn't unsure the teaching was real. that's the opposite of agnosticism. he was so sure he gave up the fortune, the title, the life he was born into, and let the church cut him out for it. doubting what a thing is costs nothing. believing it and losing the estate over it costs the estate. "more agnostic than Christian" mistakes the residue for the absence of the residue. the guy who's still deciding is the agnostic — not the one already paying the price for the answer.
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Ive only read how much land does a man need and the death of Ivan Ilyich, seems pretty Christian to me from what I’ve read.
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>>25570992
And yet.
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>>25571103
There is no center, the world is a sphere, anon.

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I started asking AI for general summeries of books that I didn't find interesting but nevertheless wanted to know the general gist of the book. First it was just a shitty book I forgotten about. Then I asked the AI for another and realized I enjoyed reading the synopsises of books than actually reading of them. It's easier to do and I read 20 of them so far and feeling quite satisfied and content understanding those 20 books.

You guys should try it out. You can read the plot of several books in one sitting.
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>>25571749
To be fair, rapidly going through different types of books gives you a great overview in terms of just what is possible in avant-garde literature without spending dozens of hours on one single book. That's why I recommended >>25570935, as they accomplish the same purpose with much more efficient 'economy' of information. Those are all legitimately great authors who go rapidly through various possibilities, they map what writers can do with the medium, and they could feasibly accomplish what they're describing if they had enough time and drive to do so.
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>>25571912
Do I really to literally say that not only the post was ironic that I so ctually read books and not read summeries by itself.
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>>25572269
I was already 90% certain just by seeing the OP, and your previous post already established that for certain.
What I was arguing for is that the technique itself is not without merit, and in the hands of a skilled writer (as opposed to the LLM) this can be highly illustrative and enlightening.
>A Perfect Vacuum (Polish: Doskonała próżnia) is a 1971 book by Polish author Stanisław Lem, the largest and best known collection of Stanisław Lem's fictitious criticism of nonexisting books.[1] It was translated into English by Michael Kandel. Some of the reviews remind the reader of drafts of his science fiction novels, some read like philosophical pieces across scientific topics, from cosmology to the pervasiveness of computers, finally others satirize and parody everything from the nouveau roman to pornography, Ulysses, authorless writing, and Dostoevsky.
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>>25570261
if optimised this is the way. wordcel fags dont understand this, ai notwithstanding.

read this book, or a summary of it
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>>25572947
I don't need to. I've already developed my skills naturally thorugh shitposting on /lit/ for over a decade. It's like giving a chad in college a PUA book when he had already been slaying pussy since middle school.

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>TQ
What is your favourite 80s horror paperback?
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>>25572613
I get like that with fetuses. ever since going to a science museum as a kid, there was a room with a bunch of fetuses in jars and gave me an intense physical reaction. had to vomit in the bathroom. so now whenever there's horror stories or medical dramas with babies I get super sick
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Any books for this feel?
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>>25572183

Lovecraft
Ligotti
Mary Shelley
Junji Ito
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Finished between two fires. Really liked it, despite it being nearly 600 pages it never seemed to drag, and I enjoyed the use of Christian mythology as fantasy back drop. Moving on to Haunting of House Hill now, since it's spooky season. Maybe Borne next, or the Butcher of Nazareth I got recommended either on here or sffg.
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>>25574271
I just finished Haunting of Hill House. It's pretty good but it's more atmospheric than actually spooky or scary (don't get me wrong though it definitely creeped me out at times). It doesn't have that big, disturbing reveal at the end like the movie did though, instead it's much more vague and much, much more cerebral than that. There are some very nice, summery passages too. Read it late at night for maximum effect.

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the destruction of every Western person's dignity, Izzat and the like.
The literature could also be that which justifies the destruction or treats it as a nothinburger.
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>>25573403
The bible.
Also harlotry is based af and only subhuman incel losers will seethe for never getting any action
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>>25573403
Every Muslim woman on earth would bend over for a little bit of money the second they were no longer under threat of physical violence from their families. Beating and raping your own women isn't eugenics, it just makes a lot of women who are good for nothing except breeding under threat of violence.
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>>25574113
Depends thoughbeit. Also, lifelong monogamy has some genetic basis which means you can have a highly monogamous population if you chose to cull whores & whore lover cucks each generation.

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Where do i begin? I was told to study Logic.
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>>25572699
>greeks straight to germans
Are you retarded?
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>>25573911
idealist shortcut?
>He Kan't read French
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>>25573865
Plato and Nietzsche
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>>25572673
Start with Muv-Luv
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>>25572673

https://archive.org/details/logic01jevo

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And related stuff.
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>>25568918
Read it this year, i absolutely loved it. Easily one of the best, if not the best archive of cold war espionage operations done by the KGB.

I read a lot on KGB ops this year, including:

Active Measures by Thomas Rid
Russians Among Us by Gordon Corera
Blind Mans Bluff by Sherry Sontag and Christopher Drew

And pic related

Reading about actual espionage stories trumps the shit out of conspiriacies and ravings of lunatics.
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>>25571882
>I read a lot on KGB ops this year, including:
>Active Measures by Thomas Rid
>Russians Among Us by Gordon Corera
>Blind Mans Bluff by Sherry Sontag and Christopher Drew
so you trust people who probably had no close contact to soviet glowies?

>andy greenberg
hmm, yeah, I'd totally trust a jew that makes up and aggrandizes US government narratives (muh attribution by zionist "cybersec" companies).
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>>25571627
>>25571830
>no answer
I will assume >>25571630 was right lmao
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>>25568481
>there is a difference between conspirancy theories (esp. the american kind) and conspirancies in reality
This is hilarious because some fag from a country nobody's ever heard of is upset because if anyone in his country wrote a book about conspiracy, they'd be shot dead in their living room. There wouldn't even be a grace period like that guy who recently died for exposing Epstein and Lutnick, some farmer or ex-con with a handgun waddling up aned emptying the magazine through a window. Not only are you uninteresting but you have no civil or legal protection surrounding free speech, so no shit there aren't any books where you live! You niggers come here to write them where those protections exist!
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>>25574142
thanks for bumping my thread, and thanks for confirming that you americans are retarded (try reading my post again, brainlet).
it's kinda funny but also pathetic that you have no clue about me but still claim a lot of shit about me and my country and whatever.
no wonder people are prejudiced about americans lmao

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If you could force all of /lit/ to read one book on pain of death, what would it be?

Exclusions: Can not be religious, or the entire thread will be wankery, and can not be unreadable books like the dictionary or Voynich manuscript.
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>>25572891
The Pickwick Papers or some fun adventure slop
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>>25574336
I keep meaning to, but I simply cannot find a reason. I imagine it is to my own loss.
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>>25574337
Well I specified /lit/ because I didn't want megalomaniacal world domination type discussions, but I'm interested in your argument in that vein. I know many great men like Napoleon and Lincoln read Plutarch assiduously, though I don't know if it was general education.
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>>25574336
>25 volumes
nigga I need to pay rent and buy food
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>>25572891
I'd rather accept death than recommend 1 book. I'll die proud knowing I actually read.

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I need some recs for books set in the desert (historical/contemporary I don’t care, but no sci if)
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>>25573225
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>>25573322
The Last Free Man
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The Woman in the Dunes by Kobo Abe
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>>25573879
the movie made from it redpilled me about women
i wouldn't recommend it tho, better just read the book
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Second book of the Malazan series.


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