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Which way, gay man?
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imagine getting filtered by confessions of a mask
NPD and homosexuality are the same thing in essence.
This guy is a diagnosed narcissist himself
Sorry but it was just too gay, I don't care about how much of a loser Mishima is or what he jerks off to.
Whitman's a poet, you're not going to read Baldwin but you should.

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I'm getting to the end of my stack and need some more ideas as to what to read.
I've recently been reading a lot of post modern stuff (The Pale King, V., Foucault's Pendulum), a lot of Shakespeare (my favorites have been Taming of the Shrew and Macbeth) as well as some memoirs like If This Is a Man. I also love outdoors stuff like Into the Wild and Bryson's A Walk In the Woods. Anything about the Manson Family I love as well.
What do you think I might like? I'm in my early 20's if that helps. I think The Pale King has been my favorite read of the year so far because of my age, a lot of the characters and stories resonated with me a lot
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Looks neat anon, thank you
Alan Harrington's Paradise 1. Maybe The White Rainbow, while you are at it.
I can't seem to find out much about these two? What's the main gist? By the covers they seem like sci fi books which I've never really been into but I'm not sure
have you read John Fante?
I loved Pale King, especially the Leonard Stecyk stuff

>Mere Christianity - C. S. Lewis
>Introduction to Christianity - Pope Benedict XVI
>The Confessions of St. Augustine
>St. Thomas Aquinas - G.K. Chesterton
>Orthodoxy - G.K. Chesterton
>The Everlasting Man - G.K. Chesterton
>A Shorter Summa The Essential Philosophical Passages of Saint Thomas Aquinas Summa Theologica - Peter J. Kreeft
>Catechism of the Summa Theologiae - Thomas Aquinas
>Catholic Catechism of Saint Pius - Pope St. Pius X
>Early Christian Writings The Apostolic Fathers - Andrew Louth
>History of the Christian Church (Complete Eight Volumes In One) - Philip Schaff
>Ignatius Catholic Study Bible New Testament RSV 2nd Edition
>The Faith of Our Fathers - James Cardinal Gibbons
>The Spirit of Catholicism - Karl Adam Robert A. Krieg
>The Complete Ante-Nicene & Nicene and Post-Nicene Church Fathers Collection

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Name one Orthodox Theologian that you like and one Catholic Theologian that you dislike
Orthobro I like: Saint Symeon
Cathosis I dislike: Saint Aquinas
>t. One among you
Not a theologian but I like Jonathan Pageau.
I don't like the extent to which Aquinas gets held up as being the end-all be-all of Catholic thought, especially by traditionalists.
>Can you recommend any English-language neo-Thomist authors?
[1] I would ******HIGHLY****** recommend Garrigou-Lagrange, Knowing the Love of God. A wonderfully clear and accessible, truly inspired work. Really, really, **really** good.

[2] Admittedly, it is (like the Garrigou) a translation into English from the French, but you might also consider this:

The True Christian Life: Thomistic Reflections on Divinization, Prudence, Religion, and Prayer Paperback by Ambroise Gardeil

See: https://matthewminerd.com/the-true-christian-life-endorsements

Here is a taste of Gardeil in the form of a shorter article, with an interesting introduction by the translator Matthew Minerd:


And an interesting interview with Minerd re Gardeil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSd_GBY0f9M&ab_channel=TheMeaningofCatholic
>Brideshead Revisited by Evelyn Waugh
>The Diary of a Country Priest by Georges Bernanos
>Viper's Tangle by François Mauriac
>The Book of the New Sun series by Gene Wolfe
>Chronicles of the Nephilim by Brian Godawa
He looks cheesy and exploitative on first appearances but has been praised by theologians.
>The Dawn of All and The Lord of All both by Robert Hugh Benson
>Father Brown series by G.K. Chesterton
Other great works that I've read by him are
>The Napoleon of Notting Hill, The Man Who Was Thursday, The Ball and the Cross, Manalive, and The Man Who Knew Too Much
>Brighton Rock, The Power and the Glory, The End of the Affair, and The Heart of the Matter by Graham Greene
>Ad Limina by Cyril Jones-Kellett
>The Edge of Sadness by Edwin O'Connor
>Nine Hundred Grandmothers by R.A. Lafferty

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Writers with widely differing styles and content across their work? As an example somebody who would write with a semi-biblical style set in the 9th century in one book and a postmodern style set contemporarily in another.

Also only serious literature and writers. No genreslop.
why do so many anglos look so roman?
They wuz Trojans
Beckett basically started out writing like Joyce and then slowly let his style become more and more minimalist.
Borges is like this. Read his early stories and you'll only see hints of what made him great in Tom Castro, then he goes full Borges in Ficciones and El Aleph.
Flaubert is easily categorized as a realist for Bovary but really his major works are so distinct they would be ascribed to different writers had they been published anonymously. The sentimental education basically founded the naturalist movement. Salambo just goes into crypto-romantic historical novel (arguably the best written), the temptation of st Antony is still completely removed from both. Some of his short stories delve into fantastical and have nothing to do with the 19th century psychological novel in presentation.

Welcome to the sonnets thread.
If your post is not a sonnet,
may God kill you dead.
This is a sort of shadow game;
you're wagering your life
on the bit of your big bite
and the sharpness of your knife.
How you cut and how you sharp
us all will be the height:
how we catch your rhythm and
how we harken to your plight.
O woe; you see, it's black in me,
and that's why you see me write.
Prithee give me 14 lines or you might lose your sight.
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Of course, I can well tell ye
some other things he said,
either to me digitally
or while speaking in my head.
He wants two rings -- he likes us twice --
which twist around the Earth,
as high as heaven's height,
to deflect those burly space-rocks
and whatever else is in the night.
It would be wise to make them supple,
as Jupiter's are dust,
woven beads with wise wise threads
that know just when to break.
Whirl it well above our heads,

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Poxes on ye, mangy fox.
Bite the dirt, ye coward lost.
Lie ye dead in wooden box
before I'll be by fool you bossed.
If ye want cursive, show us, clown,
lay yourself a rooster egg,
ye basilisk: yer hidden frown
and cowardice tells all, bent peg.
Ye the goon, as well as I,
have naught but wretcedly clacked,
sighed our boring mechanical sighs,
narrowed to 26 modes of attack.
Pathetic prater, nongiver, taker,
fol-de-rol tool, dick, take pen and awaken.
A river shorter than its name for sure,
a swampfull load of watery filthy mud.
I get it not the secret motives of your,
so venture deep and find your cause bud.

Its peak of summer season's humid hots,
So jungles thick and wet are hell of hells.
If you don't like it then fair its lots,
A place of fear where greater gater dwells.

The deserts dry and hills of silent calm,
the shrubs in sand and pines standing tall.
A pristine image painted well and warm,
it takes one places, an ethereal lovely call.

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At first no sound but echoed pormp was heard,
then again pormp echoed back, worrying the birds.
Then came rustling, increasingly hustling,
to him well-eared a building bustling,
of clad-on dwarfboots, packt-up dwarfroots,
the which to tromp on, and to gnaw through.
Then tumbelt all dwatf out of many all holes,
from north and from down,
in high helmets clad, and regal steel clothes.
One might swear kings came up from the ground.
Most quickly and orderly they there formed up,
according to a well-laid plan old-drawn-up.
Then dwarf self-sorted in the mountain air,
'til 'twas workt out who was tallest there.
They gathered them around the maudlin bier,
and Bohemond and Sichelgaita strong
did speak, in earnest, of their hope and fear,
and of the ways before them, yet still long.
"Sir Bohemond, as eldest child mine --
although such loving word contorts your brow --
your rights to Richard's holdings were divine,
and yet like God ye must to Nature bow.
My men did serve my weasel husband long,
and yet it is to me they're held in bond,
to blood which ye have not, tho' yours is strong --
'tis Roger shall the ducal circlet don.
I mother thee most falsely, some may say,
yet I've dreamed your daringer, farfaringer high crowning day."

What am I in for?
Lovecraft for antiwork people
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This album but in literary form
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Söylent Green.
I can't even say that here. The very words be stolen out from under me, mutated to appease the sensibilities of an authoritarian element that cannot abide even acknowledging the existence of certain topics. One would think at least /lit/, of any board, would allow a free and open exchange of ideas not censored by our anonymous government, but no.

Between Harry Harrison's "Make Room! Make Room!" which inspired the above film, John Brunner's "Stand on Zanzibar", Nolan & Johnson's "Logan's Run", and numerous other literature and film entries, a massive fear of overpopulation seems to have been an undercurrent of dystopian science fiction of the 1960s and 70s. Despite holding little love for the oppressive governments they theorized would enforce eugenics legislation meant to control the problem, they nonetheless seem to have arrived at a foregone conclusion that the burden of unchecked population would indeed be the greatest thread facing the future. Yet we've come to see in recent years that no such malthusian disasters seem to be forthcoming among our own peoples; we see the populations of most civilized, industrialized caucasian and asian nations reaching soft plateaus and beginning to decline. While we have no shortage of economic and social problems to occupy our time, it doesn't seem that sheer numbers and lack of space and privacy have come to be the hypothesized primary areas of concern. It remains to be seen how trends in the less developed nations will continue. Certainly a cynical low-information take would suggest we are due to be overrun by africans and indians breeding at termite-like rates, yet I have not seen any thorough convincing evidence-based analyses of brown population growth one way or the other.

With all that being said, are there other works of speculative fiction that approach these topics from another angle? Any noteworthy stories that explore the future of social and population dynamics from a less pessimistic approach?
A lot of what's happening these days, is people crowding into high population density areas for work, while other places slowly empty out.
A lot of old infrastructure (malls specifically) is also being left abandoned to rot now, because of the disruptions of the internet. No one saw that coming.
The complete overcrowding of the planet doesn't seem like it's ever going to be a serious deal. Even the third worlders will probably stop breeding like mad once they're fully acclimatised to and retarded by Western consumer culture, and their women are all made feminists.
>Certainly a cynical low-information take would suggest we are due to be overrun by africans and indians breeding at termite-like rates, yet I have not seen any thorough convincing evidence-based analyses of brown population growth one way or the other.
Is this a joke or are you serious? Look at the changes in these populations in the last two centuries.

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Recommend me anything that approaches the works of Sade, Bataille, Genet or Desclos. You can deviate from the realm of literature of you wish to do so, I want anything, really.
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Jack Smith, Breillat, Nick Zedd, Jess Franco, Wakamatsu, Zwartjes, Wojnarowicz, some Sato
Read Alan Moore.
I live where this book takes place lol. it's not that bad.. if you aren't a woman and don't go ouside at night
>actual good recs

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What are some novels that deal realistically with the subject of nuclear war or the aftermath of a nuclear exchange? Growing up, I was inundated with a litany of hyperbolic, alarmist, and defeatist anti-war stories (not that being anti-war is bad, but being anti-reality is) that uniformly proclaimed that any detonation of a nuclear weapon in anger will result in the immediate obliteration of human civilization, the probable extinction of the human race, and in the worst-case scenario, the destruction of Earth's entire biosphere; at best, human society will be crippled and sent back to a status that resembles pulp sword and sorcery magazines from the 1930s. Even as an 8 year old in elementary school reading that crap I could tell something about it was off; even the Terminator movies did not take such a self-satisfied view of the bleak prospects of MAD.

I'd like to know if there's more books like Fail Safe by Eugene Bardick and Harvey Wheeler; novels which, while morally pernicious, take a rationalistic instead of a sensationalistic approach to the subject, with the concomitant result that not only is humanity not instantaneously vaporized by MAD, but that modern civilization effectively continues status quo ante. While I did not particularly like this book, I am interested in books like it, that are interested in the subject of the continuation of life after a nuclear war as life and not as as a joke in MAD Magazine.
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Read it free here:
Also "One Second After" is the modern version, same plot but in the now times
"On The Beach" be Nevil Shute is another classic. Read it free here:
On the Beach is one of those shitty ones that assumes total extinction of life on planet earth due to radioactive fallout. I'm more interested in semi-plausible scenarios that don't rely on authorial fiat to institute physically impossible parameters.

This looks rather better, thank you.

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>writes book shitting on the Bible and by proxy all of Christianity and Judaism
>"that's beneath an objective scholar of religion" >:(
>claims it's specifically about "white evangelicals"
>"oh nvm that's fine" :)

I've seen literal dozens of these religious studies books about the evils of "white evangelicalism" recently. I'm certainly no evangelical protestant, but whenever I hear academics try to act like they're being "objective" about this sort of thing I have to call bullshit.

Like no you're clearly primarily motivated by being an extremely jilted ex-evangelical and have channeled your daddy issues into the language of academia. No one would just randomly choose to write on this subject if they weren't motivated by politics or petty personal grudges.
How do these people get away with pretending books like these are anything more than dressed-up polemics?
Explain yourselves academianons.
They want to criticize white people without criticizing the Torah (i.e. Jews)
Ever notice how the popular secular / atheist movements will attack Christianity by citing morally reprehensible content from the Bible, but their quotes always come from the law of Moses? Theyr'e always objecting the the treatment of slaves, the laws about a woman marrying her rapist, killing your neighbor for working the Sabbath--all Deuteronomy. Never the Gospels. Yet their hostility is not at all directed at Judaism, but Christianity.

Simple as
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Sartre - Nausea
Thanks man
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Books for this feel?

These books are so comfy and give me a chuckle at least once a page. Just finished Lords and Ladies. What's your favorite book?
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We're on /lit/, mate.

Shut up, you prickly prick.
Anybody else wanna chine in?
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They're comical books
Personally, I think the best first book is The Color of Magic, since it sets the stage for the rest of the series. However, any of the leftmost books on that list are good starting points.
Most of the humor in the series is gonna go over a child's head.

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I know it's cringe but does anyone know the best book for becoming assertive and stopping "people pleasing"
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>being obese and full of health conditions makes me smarter!
lmao you fucking wish, addict
I have high testerone despite suffering from insomnia and consuming 1 liter of beer everyday.
It's all about your genetics and to an extent, nurture.
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simple as
say it, anon-kun (>>23402510)
, you people-pleasing faggot
You are asking to change your personality which involves molding your brain's plasticity.
Take a hero dose of magic mushrooms in your room and keep some sedative (diazepam, lorazepam) or antipsychotic (haloperidol, quentiapine) nearby to kill the trip if the worst comes to it. You can buy this stuff in the dark web but make your own research about it though.
If you are scared about a hero dose then take the highest dose which you are comfortable with even if that means a microdose. Either way, psychedelics are likely the answer to your problem.
You're just pouting because you're not ready for the truth and your master has not appeared. Seethe more.

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God isn't necessary to explain the universe, but it's convenient when you're talking to people that aren't particularly curious about the finer details. Most people want a simple and comfortable answer.
>can't seperate tone from content and cries about ad homs after making ad homs
Behold, the self-awareness and social skills of the fedora tipper.
>Most people want a simple and comfortable answer.
and what's wrong about it?
>Most people want a simple and comfortable answer.
Implying God implies "simple and comfortable". Just how long would evolution have to go on for for a living being to be omnipotent? What are the conditions necessary for that? How in the world can you fall to the conclusion that something like God could be simple?
In fact, somebody in the multiverse creating a big bang in a lab and then creating our universe would be 1000x more simple than God
>Implying God implies "simple and comfortable"
You're right on this. It's simple if you don't think about it too much, but once you start trying to rationalize the nitty gritty of it, it's a bottomless well of complexity.
>Just how long would evolution have to go on for for a living being to be omnipotent?
Who knows? Took us about a billion years of replication to even bother putting our genetic material in a central nucleus. It could be never unless some being manages to find an ACE exploit in the laws of physics.

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What's the appeal of James Joyce? I've never read him, but I am just curious on your thoughts and which book you'd recommend of his first
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Maybe the scene where the priest goes on a whole tangent about Hell while they're on their retreat? That has some pretty intense imagery.
Ulysses is a story about how someone can be a hero in Modernity. That's its essence if you boil it down to the fundamentals. It's the story of a man--Leopold Bloom--who is not really very special, rather ordinary in some respects, but who nonetheless has a few choice qualities which make him unable to be caught up in the world of his day, which make him stand apart. The book is the story of his day, his single day June 16th in Dublin, Ireland, and how the world he encounters attempts to defeat him. But Bloom triumphs in the end, and the dilemmas he faces--the loss of his home and the loss of his wife--are triumphed over by the book's final words.

The styles themselves become part of the world attempting to triumph against Bloom; they gradually take on a hostile attitude towards him, and attempt to subsume him and control him. David Hayman talks about this. But Bloom triumphs over the machinations of his own novel by the end, too.
You need to read finnegans wake out loud because some words are identifiable if you pronounce it altogether. But even then you wont still get much thing from that novel because it jumps from one fragment to another.
Currently reading that book, I'm on page 100(?) And the only thing that I learned is that there's this museum, museum presentation, some guards saying mister finnegens sir, some prankster woman, then it jumps to some battle records, then king something. I cant get the grasp of the story so far
I bought it months ago and read a few sentences and gave up lol. Good luck
I read it all last summer just letting it wash over me not comprehending a single thing. Once in a while I’d refer to one of the reader’s guides, I forget which, sorry, but one from not long after original publication. I’m pretty retarded but it was compelling enough to read all the way through, also I avoided reading it aloud in public like an insane person. I like the part where it’s like a radio quiz show

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