>audiobook>dramatized with full cast>unique soundtrack >good sound effectsLiterally the best way to experience most books
>>23974780What book are you currently listening to?
Phil dragash's lotr is the best way to experience lotr
maybe if you don't have imagination (npc apple, remember) and don't value your time
>>23974780No, the full cast and sound effects ruin it and take away from the pure intentions of the writing. It should be read through by one man without significant inflection.
Nobody asked for them but here are my audiobook recommendations (good story, good narrator). Mostly genre slop but don't pretend you're above itThe Culture series, narrated by Peter KennyThe Black Company, narrated by various. The narrator changes as the in-book doesRevenger and its sequels narrated by Clare CorbettThe Prefect and its sequels narrated by John LeeThe Moon is a Harsh Mistress narrated by Lloyd JamesPiranesi read by Chiwetel Ejiofor
>>23974780Pseuds who look down on audiobooks don't know that books used to be read out loud in group settings and reading wasn't supposed to be a solitary activity. At the same time, I would rather read a book along with my friends and family members rather than listening to recordings done by stranger people with whom I have no connection.
>>23974780>Doze off>Wait what happened last unknown number of minutes? >Let me rewind it>*Jumbled sounds of music and split half sentences and lame sounds effects*>Nope, let me try again>A few minutes later completely lose track of where you are in the book>Fuck it, just play it from some random part>Miss some smart wordplay and double meaning completely because if the forced way of expression by the narrator's voice >Lose an hour trying to go back to reference what X said to Y an hour ago because you thought it may be important>Doze off while wondering why they choose this character to be voice acted by a nigger when it's a 19th century gothic novel>Miss a ton of context because you don't have access to footnotesYeah, clearly the best way to experience books, but only if you are illiterate. >>23974847We also used to not brush our teeth but it turns out it's better to do so.
>>23974847Audiobooks as they are today were invented for blind people. Sighted people who use audiobooks usually put it on as background noise, anyway, which is why audiobooks are looked down upon because you really AREN'T paying attention. The only reason you should use audiobooks is if you were blind, illiterate, or can't use your hands for some reason.
>>23974780I don't connect well with characters unless I do the work of generating the imaginary circumstance and characteristics myself. Audiobooks generally put me to sleep.
>>23974780Orson Scott Card said the "audio play" is his preferred method of storytelling. He produced a good audio play for Enders Game. I've also listened to audio plays for the His Dark Materials series and Dune. What other audio plays are out there?
>>23974780I fail to feel the words in the sea of other noises.
>>23974780>audiobook>dramatized with full cast>unique soundtrack>good sound effectsThat's an audio play not an audiobook.https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/audio_play
>>23975024>The only reason you should use audiobooks is if you were blind, illiterate, or can't use your hands for some reason.Monolingual spotted.
>>23975024>can't use your hands for some reasonhmm how can I read while doing doing housework? Will you look at that I just found a great solution!
>>23974780BBC have collections of radio plays of most classic English writers on Audible. I particularly recommend Somerset Maugham, Moon and Sixpence in their version is way better than the book.
>>23974995>be you>have the attention span of a goldfish>can't even stay awake if your hands aren't occupied with pages to turn>thinks it's the medium that this reflects poorly on
>>23974780>soundtrackare normies even human
>>23975228/thread
Audible has produced a lot of high quality Star Wars audiobooks. They have good sound effects and music, but they are just read by one person instead of a cast of characters so they are audiobooks not audio plays. Here's a link to listen to them for free.https://staraudiobook.net/series/star-wars/
>>23974780>get distracted for 2 seconds>lose place>have to go rewind>can only go as fast or slow as the reader dictatesI'll stick to regular reading.
>>23975739>high quality Star Wars audiobooks.
>>23974780naw fuck that. I much prefer a single tanlent VA
>>23975760I didn't say the books themselves were good, just the production value of the audible audiobook versions of the books, like what OP was talking about.
>>23974830they can be a very sensible way to use your time if you listen while driving or cooking.
>>23974995Sleep timers have been a thing for a long time now anon, even video players have sleep timers nowadays what year do you think it is boomer? Libraries deliver audiobooks right onto your device you don't need CD players.How can you claim to be paying attention to the book but don't even know what chapter you're on
The secret history audiobook is unironically better than the actual book. Other than that, there's a really really high quality LOTR audiobook out there with music from the films, original compositions, when in the kitchen you hear pans rattling and shit. So good.
>>23974780At that point just go watch a movie
>>23974780Thoughts on using a tts for ebooks?
My 4 year old son is a fucking pseud. Instead of grabbing my leatherbound 14 kilo Lord of the Rings hardcover and reading it himself, he has me read it out loud to him like some fucking blind guy. I mean, what, does he expect me to read the footnotes for him as well?Upon proof reading the post it was discovered that it works in favor of the physical copy book readers, as it likens listeners to 4 year olds. It works fine for me either way, as I don't really have an opinion on the matter, nor a son, or a copy of LOTR, for that matter.
>>23976107the one read by Tartt herself? i liked it too.
>>23974780audiobooks should be only allowed to listen after reading the book
The best way to experience a book is by... not experiencing it?
nothing against audiobooks really, but find it irritating some people (mostly women) refer to listening to an audiobook as reading the book and when they've just listened to the book, they claim they've read the book
>>23976428if you can pass a reading comprehension test about the book then you have "read" the book.
>>23974780>moviebook>dramatized with full cast>unique soundtrack>good sound effects>beautiful cinematographyLiterally the best way to experience most books
>>23976525kek
>>23976489wrongif you have listened to it, you have consumed/experienced(like op uses)/listened itif you have read it, you have consumed/experienced/read it
>>23976596If you can pass a comprehension test it's literally the same thing. Reading is listening to an audiobook narrated by the voice in your head.
>>23975318Listening to a book isn't reading it
>>23976680When you "read" a book you are literally listening to an audiobook narrated by your inner voice. Whether words pass through your ears or eyes your brain is comprehending the words in exactly the same way. You just can't come to grips with the fact that you are an elitist asshole for no good reason at all.
>>23976737You're not consooming properly anon
>>23974780I have nothing against audiobooks unless they abridge shit. Which is why I can't support GraphicAudio despite their terrific productions.
>>23976758Why did they go for the You Wouldn't Download a Car font
>>23976758>>23976836
>>23975024I'm a truck driver. I have endless hours to listen, but I can't use my eyes. I finished the entire (published to date) asoiaf catalog and didn't know grrm was constantly misspelling words on purpose.
>>23975785so you're shilling books you don't find good?
>>23976745Keep typing and pretending listening to something = reading it
>>23975746>>can only go as fast or slow as the reader dictatesYou can change the playback speed.
>>23977625I will because it is. You have no way of refuting my point.Keep typing and pretending that you're not an insufferable elitist twat.
>>23977656Audiobooks force a consistent pace of ""reading,"" which is not how literate people read books. They may linger on a passage or choose to re-read or skim over others. People also may not self-vocalize when reading, so there is no auditory component. Listening is not reading, but you shouldn't feel threatened as if you need to validate the activity of listening to an audiobook. Feel free to enjoy audiobooks. Just know it's not reading
>>23975739>Audible has produced a lot of high quality Star Wars audiobooks. They have good sound effects and music, but they are just read by one person instead of a cast of characters so they are audiobooks not audio plays. Here's a link to listen to them for free.>https://staraudiobook.net/series/star-wars/>>23975760>>23975785>>23977373You want to play semantics? If you have any sort of reading comprehension skills (which you obviously don't) then you can see that I said that the production of the audiobooks is high quality. I did not make any sort of statement about the quality of the content of the Star Wars books. I brought them up and posted the link because it was relevant to the point made in the OP. I enjoy them.
>>23976680By the literal meaning of those words, no. But if you've absorbed and understood the content the end result is the same, so it's kind of silly to be so persnickety about the distinction.
>>23977727>People also may not self-vocalize when readingWat?
>>23977727https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/readThere are a lot of definitions.understand, comprehendis certainly one of those definitions.
>>23977768I also find plenty of references to Teddy Roosevelt 'building' the Panama Canal even though he didn't actually pick up a shovel himself. Words are often extended ad hoc, that's how language works.
>>23977756Some people don't need to read out loud, even internally, in order to understand them.>>23977771>to utter aloud the printed or written words of>to perform the act of reading words>to deliver aloud by or as if by readingNote, this is PERFORMING the act of reading, not receiving it. If you listen to your kindergarten teacher read Green Eggs & Ham, did you read Green Eggs & Ham?
>>23977745right, so you're shilling a book that you yourself don't consider good, like i said. who cares about the quality of the recording if the book is shit?
>Witcher read by Peter Kenny
>>23977755Do you count all the books read to you by your teacher and/or your parents as "reading" the book?
>>23977914I mostly don't remember those anyway, I was too small.
You're not reading. You're just listening to some stranger's talking.
>>23977939Okay, and? If you understand and absorb the contents of the book, why does that matter?
>>23977912Are the books good? I kinda want to read fantasy for a while
>>23977944It doesn't matter. It just matters when you try to claim you "READ" a book. You didn't.
>>23977979Do you object to history books saying that Teddy Roosevelt "built" the Panama Canal when he didn't actually pick up a shovel himself?
>>23974780Dark adventure radio theatre is the peak, ive listened to those countless times, it's so comforting for some reason. More often than not the original story is underwhelming compared to dramatisation. Not to mention their scary solstice. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtv0JXvaHbV3XYLHDRR5CakUTQ_2HE7b5&feature=shared Also bbc radio's King Lear is very nicely done, or Bradbury's keleidoscope.
I like audiobooks, but I can't listen to shit like Lolita with all the bits in French, or Book of the New Sun with made up words pulled out of the author's ass.
>read a book in a week vs listen to a book over 2 monthsI ain't got time for that
>this post, literally
>>23977944It does matter, because you absorb and retain nothing. The talk just goes in through one ear and out the other. You're not actively taking it in or thinking about it.
>>23974780For me it was Hussite Trilogyit was made about 15 or so years ago back when the most audiobooks were just narrated by one person, and compared to the usual ones it was an audio spectacleTo this day I sometimes humm the main themeHonestly it makes me a bit sad that only poles are able to witness it in it's full gloryAs a book itself I would recomend it, even tho last time I read it was when I was a teen, though I have to say that to fully appreciate it you'd have to be either a pole, czech, slovak or to a lesser extent german or austrian
>>23978096Speak for yourself.
>>23977859the lengths some people go to try to argue that listening = reading is insane
>>23978096You were not a bright student, were you?
>>23978184Idk man. Im nta, but it looks retarded to specify every time."That blind guy who spends entire days listening to audiobooks? Clearly not well read!"
>>23978233there's nothing retarded in talking and writing in correct terms, completely opposite imoblind people can read in braille
>>23978263Is the blind man really reading braille?Also, are you trully reading when you are reading silently?I agree more with St. Augustine.You should read silently only if your voice "becomes easily hoarse".Everyone else is just pretending, because they hide the fact that they do not understand the obscure passages they read, and therefore cannot discuss them.Reading silently is reading without understanding, just like listening to an audiobook is listening without understanding, as >>23978096 said.>Inb4 trust me, bro, I am reading.
>>23977914>Do you count all the books read to you by your teacher and/or your parents as "reading" the book?Absolutely
>>23977863I'm "shilling" books that I enjoy that are relevant to the discussion at hand. You're judging books by their covers. I'm sure you have lots of friends and everyone wants to talk to you at parties.
>>23978012>Dark adventure radio theatreBased, that's peak comfy rainy night entertainment. Check out their "Voluminous" podcast where they read Lovecrafts letters, it's great too
>>23974780>Full cast>Soundtrack>EffectsSo a movie without images?
>>23977984>>23978233>listening isn't reading>"and did Theodore Roosevelt LITERALLY build the Panama Canal?">"and what about blind people??"Kek
>>23977944>>23977984>did you watch that movie?>I read the screenplay, so yes>did you read that play?>I saw it performed, so yes>did you listen to that new song?>I saw the sheet music and lyrics, so yes>did you read that book?>I listened to it, so yesYou consumed the book, but not by reading it
>>23978536>>23975228audio play
>>23975345Ironic coming from an audiobook nigger
>>23977979>>23977939>>23976680Okay I completed a book
>>23974780>I need someone to speak into my ear and imagine things for me because I can'tMaybe just don't bother with books?
>>23978218Are you telling me you made it through school purely by listening to the teacher, while taking notes, doing assignments and homework, actually reading textbooks, and conversing with other students had nothing to do with it?
I actually hate the idea of listening to music while I'm listening to an audiobook
>>23978846>You consumed the book, but not by reading itNo one is arguing with you on this
>>23976169I adore that turbo-burger accent whatever it is. I wish they all spoke that way.
>>23974780It's a very good medium for plays. Shakespeare audio dramas are kino. I don't think it works as well for novels though.
>>23980685You mean no one is arguing that listening to a book is the same as reading it?
