Talk about poems/poets you like, post your own work, and critique others.
moon fades as sky risesfrogposter yawnsplaying games with no prizesa new thread dawns
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>>24870923I've got a book of Walt Whitman poems on my shelf that I've never read. I don't read poetry. I just have this book.
>>24870923I walk the path that others wrought,No need to work my own,No stumbling, tripping, bruised knees,It always leads me homeNo broken nails from fingered dirt,No dust within my lungs,I'll sing the song that others wrote,And leave my own unsungAnd one day hence I will look back,Advanced though I am in age,The freedom of the road I thought,Was really just a cage
Exercisedescribe a building while you are sad without saying you are sad.
>>24871105I will start by posting this one anon made in another thread cause its litIt was of courseGrayNot gray as commie blocksAre graySince they haveBy design at leastThe gray that is directedTo somewhereVectorized by someoneWith at least some purposeIt was the shade of grayThat you touchBut does not touch you backThat neither givesNor asks - gray for its own sakeAnd rocky - yes it was rockyBut sanded down to edgelessThat tells it could have hurtOr that it had hurt beforeBut now it barely scrapes the fingerIt had windows - manyInto the most marvelous living roomsThat you can't inhabitFor the hardest I lookedI saw no door
>>24871105The red brick building of the pastWas once a sight most gay;But nothing good does ever last,And now the bricks are... le grey.
>>24870974throw that faggot's book into the fire. it's better you don't read poetry at all than begin with whitman>>24870923That time when people say therippled waterlake heals a suff--ring heart: at night in theUniversity of Malaya.When speckles like stars litterthe floor of the bus that comesright on time, e'en stiller werethe lights that hang above us,radiating their golden sight.And the starless sky was ekeabove us, red like rosy flesh,polluted by our little lights.One night the stars were presentand blown by the wind. I laid my bo--dy flat on the bench, beside thesleeping ducks. I was starving andyou were there for me. I looked atthe moving stars above andpledged to thee: i shall improve.i was not keen to continue livingbut i shall improve.
Poems about food? Preferably ones you enjoy
I am not really a poetry kinda guy, but for some reason I have been inspired to read some Greek poetry, where am I to begin?
Monke , 9-8-2022 Why when gorilla eat bananaGorilla big and strong, but When I eat banana I no big and Strong? How gorilla only eat grass and banana and have big muscle, but when I eat banana I noHave big muscle? Gorilla No work out and he big, butI work out lot and I no big. I want to be like gorilla.Gorilla look how I want to look
>>24870974>I don't read poetry.>frog postWe know
>Let the candidate fill his mind with the finest cadences he can discover, preferably in a foreign language so that the meaning of the words may be less likely to divert his attention from the movement; e.g., Saxon charms, Hebridean Folk Songs, the verse of Dante, and the lyrics of Shakespeare—if he can dissociate the vocabulary from the cadence. Let him dissect the lyrics of Goethe coldly into their component sound values, syllables long and short, stressed and unstressed, into vowels and consonants.Have any of you have actually done this?
>>24871740Yes. Once when I was in a very chinese time in my life.
>>24871740Didn't he stress imagery over everything else? Because images are easier to translate than rhythms.
Post poems you losers I want to read something nice
>>24871763No, not at all. You're confusing on the one hand Pound's Imagism, which as a movement never emphasised imagery at the expense of sound, with Pound's analysis of three aspects of poetry: melopoeia, phanopoeia, and logopoeia. He mentions that phanopoeia is far more easily translatable than melopoeia, but he never claims that this means phanopoiea is superior. On the contrary, Pound was probably more concerned with the musical aspects of poetry than any other poet of the 20th century.
>>24870974Whitman is sublime. Give him a read. Song of Myself is yet to be surpassed.
>>24871818>which as a movement never emphasised imagery at the expense of soundinteresting. by the title I assumed it would, even just slightly.
>>24870923To see the moon in all its awe,like a swan floating delicate on the lake.A single red car directed towardthe bay and the city, overlooked.The driver's gaze, a gloomy touch.Inside his coffin of safety's clutch,thinking about the next day's affairsof work and booksin comfortable chairs.
>>24870971>Ourhailit>gyds>nixt>wyf>teils>sawis>teichitThese are the only words I don't understand.
>>24872010I like it a lot, would rethink the line breaks but sounds bishop-esque. Nice.
Chalky lines cut into the surface ofsuffuse into glittering shadows whenlight passes through, carryingyour cherry and blueberry glow.
>>24872233I don't feel itFeels like you just choose cool sounding stuff together
>>24870974You should read that book. Whitman is just the poet for people who don't like poetry.
Envelope me within you,Envelope to you from me,I even lope away.
>>24872502- Rupi kaur
>>24871740Every day before breakfast.
>>24872511Rude
>>24872542- kaur
Men, brother men, that after us yet live,Let not your hearts too hard against us be;For if some pity of us poor men ye give,The sooner God shall take of you pity.Here are we five or six strung up, you see,And here the flesh that all too well we fedBit by bit eaten and rotten, rent and shred,And we the bones grow dust and ash withal;Let no man laugh at us discomforted,But pray to God that he forgive us all.If we call on you, brothers, to forgive,Ye should not hold our prayer in scorn, though weWere slain by law; ye know that all aliveHave not wit alway to walk righteously;Make therefore intercession heartilyWith him that of a virgin's womb was bred,That his grace be not as a dry well-headFor us, nor let hell's thunder on us fall;We are dead, let no man harry or vex us dead,But pray to God that he forgive us all.The rain has washed and laundered us all five,And the sun dried and blackened; yea, perdie,Ravens and pies with beaks that rend and riveHave dug our eyes out, and plucked off for feeOur beards and eyebrows; never are we free,Not once, to rest; but here and there still sped,Drive at its wild will by the wind's change led,More pecked of birds than fruits on garden-wall;Men, for God's love, let no gibe here be said,But pray to God that he forgive us all.Prince Jesus, that of all art lord and head,Keep us, that hell be not our bitter bed;We have nought to do in such a master's hall.Be not ye therefore of our fellowhead,But pray to God that he forgive us all.
>>24871105stairs
>>24872665Is this about God?
>>24872705Yeah
>>24872805Go to church
>>24872810
e^(pi(i))+1=0 is the most profound thing that I have ever seen and I have no idea what it means, and I’m pretty sure that no one else does, either
>>24872823stop spamming this shit, faggot.
>>24871797
Daylight breaks, breath of mineI free my mind, widen my mindI ride my time like flame in placeOne dawn, I’ll wave stone to lifeWatch new light fall soft like riceMy laughter rolls out like thunderSo raw it heals, it’s wonderI lift my face from the earth slowThese days I wake full, not partial, glowHeld in deep lucid eye move, flowThese days I seed, rapid I reloadRun my chances open road, one road left to travelI know what this calls forWhere’s my trowel?Operation mendLike I’m bored sew my inner world up like corn, rowsMy internal storm grows like breathing fog in OsloFrozen, then I thaw fast, baptized in warm frostLike sunlight in the garageEase your blink with dreamland’s hushI love you so muchI love your flawsI love your need for causeI love your real touchI love every last one of youI ponder digesting stars just to be one with youI love you so muchI’m triple the mother-loverMondo-hearted, full of forwardFrom banana town manorMy slang step like spirit lizardI play around, fashion a rocketShoot to Mercury for the summerExtended creation till I recompose my splintersI lift my face from the earth slowThese days I wake full, not partial, glowHeld in deep lucid eye move, flowThese days I seed, rapid I reloadRun my chances open road, one road left to travelFrom centuries of nightI’ve never burned so brightCan’t believe I’m still dancingCan’t believe love lasts this longI wander off to find my lighterI don’t return till joy validatesMankind’s destiny in a bloomBy the way, I don’t pet bleachersCourtside to soul-seekersLike I speak truth with kinNo response, bless ‘em onceIncoming second ascentTo be real, I just lift ‘em up (just lift ‘em up)Them clueless struck by crucifix, light burst out from her gut (burst out from her gut)Love.I lift my face from the earth slowThese days I wake full, not partial, glowHeld in deep lucid eye move, flowThese days I seed, rapid I reloadRun my chances open road, one road left to travel
>>24872832I’m calling the police
Writing to recall favourite creations,Writing to recieve standing ovations,Writing to get paid.Writing attempting to philosophize,Abounding with stock, sophisticated lies,Tame, lame, same, and staid.Writing to look in a changing mirror,Writing to a distant unknown hearer,May-be in the shade.Writing accidental equivocations,Ignoring the truly useful vocations,That will get you laid.Writing like a slightly-addled youngling,Milk moustached wanting to show you something,"Look at what I made!"
>>24872931Complete shit
You're life is a mistakeThe world becomes fakeBut you still dreamSomeone will give you a chanceTo make it right again
>>24873146>You're lifeDon’t even post in this thread. You’re too stupid.
>>24873154Yer*
London, what’s that in your veinsI scribbled juvenile hymns but the rain got to themThankfullyNow it’s the kind of grey that doesn’t speakStill, some green here and thereLondon snails are in a hurry tooFrom Camden to Newham I went on all foursDragged my nose on counters without regret or shameAnd the posh hat still looks funny Balanced like a champagne bottle on a queenly stickStick it, I still love you somehowLondon, when’s the last time you called? But I’m really blaming myself – that’s the way hate goesI don’t blame the Indian man, nor the Muslim or the JewYou shouldn’t eitherI say this knowing I’ve no clue.London you’ve just been got by the powers that be Just like me, just like me
>>24870971which collection is this from?
>>24872815Semite mad
NovemberMinty oxford shoes? Or playful boots and a plasticBag which grocer gave mother, and mother gaveMe?The slush came onto the fair season as it fascinated me; From it he tore me free. The reverie fancied I, and I fanciedShe.The Legion Hall radiator’s invisible flame forged myComfort. The the sausages warmed me on The stair. The silent auction formed my fanciful Expectations, that they turn to common Sense. The ice hockey wasn’t for me. I slid beside myself — I went Imagination comes from that.
>>24870923The Witches Seven sat about.Which hectic heptad rattled out: "Upon all rhymed and metred verse,We call our half-too-clever Curse!""A numpty-numbered, cadence cage!The remnant of a rancid age, When flights of frenzied overeach Bore writing different to speech.""How blessed we'll be, to hear, at last,The final knell of jingles past!""Quick, Sisters! Sisters! Gather round!By rhymes unstressed, by stress unbound,In Frelin Grove we congregate, To thin Man's verse of what we hate.""Oh, horrid, horrid, hateful thing!""Be careful, Sister, not to sing.You err more rhythmic than you should,And that can lead to nothing good.""A good thing we're not held to this!" "Indeed. It would be odious.Suppose our cauldron brewed some borst.Then we'd be forced (and we'd be forced!)To rhyme the word that followed it.Thus neutered is a Witch"s wit.But worry not, my Sisters weird;Their jingle-jank need not be feared. "Men suffer so. But here we're flocked;A remedy we'll here concoct.""Let's add a sharktooth in the mix!""A mason's stones! No less than six!" "Into these bubbles must we hurlThe labia of a virgin girl!""Deaf mother's ears!" "Mute aunty's tongue!""Giraffe's vocal chords by blowfly stung!""Okay, then, Sisters, settle down. We have our broth of earthy brown.The time is nigh that we rejoice, But first we must unite our voice.If we're to vanquish Rhyme tonight, Prepare yourselves! The Spell recite!""HUBBLE, BUBBLE, TOIL'S TROUBLE!BE MORE SUBTLE! BUBBLE DOUBLE!""That's it Sister's! Hold on... shoot...I forgot the rhymer's foot!Within the cauldron must it plop. Right. Sorry, Sisters. From the top:""HUBBLE, BUBBLE, TOIL'S TROUBLE!BE MORE SUBTLE! BUBBLE DOUBLE!""'T is so! The mist of magic flies.Sisters, we must avert our eyes.And, in a flash, it shall disperse,Against the evils of Man's verse!""Look! There it goes!" "Wait! Don't look! No!Okay. We've still got one more go...""HUBBLE, BUBBLE, TOIL'S TROUBLE!BE MORE SUBTLE! BUBBLE DOUBLE!""Right. Here we are. And ever henceShall sound make way for common sense!A better practice we shall craft;The language, pure; the effort, halved;Of form, of Rhyme, of merit, free;And we shall call it: Poetry!"'T is just as well no poet knowsThat there is such a thing as prose.
>>24874033maestro
>samefagging your own inane shit
>>24873891This is great anon, feels very winterly, comfy and intimate. Gives me the vibe you had much more to say. Great work. Send it somewhere
Reality doesn't rhymeO what a shyme!
>>24875104- Rupi Kapi
She shies away from touchShe knows it means just far too muchSo crawl away and hideInside, embracing absences that lingerWhen colours seem to dieFeel the weight of the gray aboveRaise your hands, embrace the biting coldAnd somewhere in your skull, you knowThat you'll be coming home alone
>>24873789Idk found the image online
Poetry should not be read aloud. I know no one will agree with me but I’ve never enjoyed a poem more after hearing it read aloud. If anything I’ve liked them less.
I like Goblin Market :) A nice Halloween poem about licking fruit juice off your sister's face, and the dangers of getting dicked down by foreigners Any other poems about goblins and whimsy and being a proper Victorian girl would be appreciated.
>>24875868Do you subvocalize when you read poetry? Have you ever read it aloud yourself? Ever heard someone read out their own poem?
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>>24876365blunderbussed thunderwould be better
>>24875868isn't that the whole point of writing in meter?
>>24875868>>24876501Poetry out loud has been done best by rap/rappers. Using traditional meters really seems awful and overdone by comparison - like slam poetry
>>24876732i wouldn't consider something like parzival, faust, the iliad, and so on comparable to slam poetry. afaik classic poetry and epics were meant to be orated or sung or a theatrical production
Here is my first ever work, thoughts?
>>24875897>about licking fruit juice off your sister's face, and the dangers of getting dicked down by foreigners thought it was going to be about goblin siblings. that would have been better
Poeminho do Contra Todos esses que aí estão Atravancando meu caminho, Eles passarão... Eu passarinho!
Under the Moonlight, Anon Attends a KPop Demon BirthdayHunters shimmer beneath the dripping leaves,their posters breathing the perfume of old.The children gather, hands full of small hope,masks catching the last silver of the moon.
>>24870923Dyr bul shchylubesh shchurskumvy so bur l èz
Well Watera creature born from memoryburdened by your livingand you drive it under whipat a weary gallopyou bounce your heals on its sidescross railroads under twilightand a string attached to the small living thingat your centerwound around the anxietiesconditions and yearsit's dry and it's frayedbut one day it will pull you like a windafter all your wandering
the threadwas on page tenhe bumped itactually it was page nine
>>24877157it's genius
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there's soup on my feetand I'm eating soupmade of feet
I've been wanting to write for a while now, but I've been scared to try. I wrote something and I'd love to get some honest feedback and advice.How could I explain to you that a tree made me happy?That I was strutting back to my car, in a strip mall with an rusting, rotting, ecosystem of storefronts with unwashed windows and unkempt weeds, Clutching a thin paper bag, with board games still in their plastic, clattering and twisting in my gripAnd I had just passed by where that girl lived, and I could scarcely believe it’s been so long and that all these storefronts died, choking on the concrete of empty parking spotsAnd she loved these roads that no one traveled, because she felt she owned themAnd she would make me tea and we would marvel how wild and tangled her home was,And the air outside felt so thick that I would hurry inside and there’d she’d be, beamingAnd there it all is again, a dismal, shaded place with untamed trees and I understand them now, that no one should ever crawl back down this road As I walked by on that cracked pavement, a small tree was planted and told it should shade the cars that came by, it must be awfully lonely there, But it was flowering away because what else could it do but persist? There I was, awash in music, because I feel a movie should have a soundtrack, andBy God, as Nat King Cole told me he loved me, Its petals gently cascaded, carried by a short breezeAnd I was there to walk underneath them, in a meager shade that it did its best to castBut everything fell right into place, softly and without encouragement That was where my contentedness thrived, through the cracks in the hot streetAnd through the tangled, gnarled trees and bush that seemed to swallow the road in its mouth
Conductor we have a problem, 11-3-25Winterfall. The trainyard where engines do come to retire. Icicles dangle from signal posts mangledFlickering bulbs soon to expire.Then come the sparks and grindingThe frictional shrieks of the rail.Wheel against steel, a racket concealsA trainhopper’s agonized wail.Fallen from his boxcarToo drunk to fight the deepened frost.A piteous mess of mortal distressStinking of blood and exhaust.Hand over hand he slowly crawlsDragging ruptured entrails.Indifferent trains haul on steadyChugging along down the rails.Back and forth, metal on metalAn orchestra of grinding and screams.Some frozen nightmare of no one caringWhere man comes apart at the seams.Where no one speaks aloud in noticeThat a life has been destroyed.That’s what enables the narrow time tablesTo keep trainyard men employed.So it ends the lives of vagrantsCrushed between rail and machine.Same-day shipping, frozen flesh rippingAn engine atop blood builds steam.Not for one life, nor a thousandWill soon operations compromise.Not worth an iota compared to the quota,That schedule need be revised.Flesh enters one end, Gold received from the otherAn unceremonious trade.But shine loses some of its luster, once it’s seen How exactly the sausage is made.
I'll share a couple translations I did recently. The first is from Gottscheerish, an old German dialect still spoken in Slovenia:«Du̇ hoscht lai oin Ammoin,oin Attoin dərzu̇ə,du̇ hoscht lai oin Hoimət,Gottschəabarschər Pu̇ə.»"You have just one mother,just one father, too,you have just one homeland,and Gottschee is you."1/2
>>248815612/2This is one stanza from Georg Heym's Deathwatch (1908), one of his few works which doesn't appear to have been translated:Wie ein Wort, im Dunkel verlorenEhe das Herz es begreift,Wie ein Traum über einsamer SeeleKlingenden Gründen verschweift.Like a word lost in the darkBefore the heart understands it,Like the dream of a lonely soulAll sense had vanished.
Swallow me, my love, my Goddess.Gulp my brain, digest my soul. Kneadle me, your loaf, and leaven,If you will, but wolf me whole. If my cares could dare transcendThe gnashing of those pearly gates. I'd be lost, within a haze,Without a sense what good awaits. You give me my life, my purpose. You are all that's right for me.Chew me, gorge on me, my darling. Rumination, set me free!
You're out there near the blazing red mountainsenjoying life, getting on, breedingMy heart still beats for youjust slower than it used to.Its been so many yearswould she recognize me, the creak of my voice, my ghost of a faceMy heart still beats for youjust slower than it used to.We wrote letters, they smell of ink and glueDid you hold onto them, or throw them away?Heard you married, had kids, they say.My heart still beats for youjust slower than it used to.
>>24881581 Vorefags like you deserve the rack.
Houston, we have a problem.Shona smells like nigger droppings.
Gently embraceBath in electric light
Last time we spokeYou hadn't said a wordDoes that mean love is not real
For 30 years I tried to love youIt only filled me with hateRetarded fucking whore
>>24880607I liked it anon. I’m not a poetryman so I can’t offer advice but I like how most of your imagery is based on big and hard concrete things and the poem itself looks like a big tough wall of text
Bow in the presense of greatnessThere will be no forgiveness
>>24883485>claims to be great>can’t even spell “presence”
ThatAnon is a niggerHis poems get biggerHe can't make any senseNor can he spell presenceButThis anon is a tardWriting in metre's hardHe can't get emphasisTo work. Boring and cringe.
You begged me, "Turn away, for sake of ease."I cried, "You cut my spine to spare my heart.The blood that’s drawn from mind; a cleaner cost.You know your heart is beating with my soul."I wrap you tenderly within my cloak.The fabric, time, unfolds. We trace a creaseAnd fingers gently brush. A moment's spark.This sacred tension unwinds longing's knot.Our love will be defined when your eyes close. My eyes between the stars watch you create.With nothing handed you've made everything.You granted wonder, calm your breath, my love.Dreaming hands enclose the space between us.Feel my warmth inside your restful sleep. NowPierce the veil! Let light come shining through itGranting life. Your cost was nothing, sadly.Shadow stand beside me, I can't look back.Charting love unknown that can't be mapped here,Guiding starlight take me. Make your lines seen.Trace perfected love in total darkness.Holy shroud of night I beg with eyes closed,Blind in beauty's presence sense is stolen.Take this dance then find our separate stances.Show yourself now or I'll yearn forever.
>>24883528Maybe it's no hint of retardationPer se,But a retarded wayTo say 'anticipation'.
>>24883399Thank you!
>>24883603What is this about?
Beleza não vem de dentro Outrora estaria perdida Machucados se tornam formasPeles se tornam feridas Não poderia cura-las A casca me incomoda Em pele viva eu me sintocompletamente vivo agora
Beleza não vem de dentro Outrora, estaria perdida Machucados se tornam formasPeles se tornam feridas Não poderia curá-las A casca me incomoda Em pele viva eu me sintocompletamente vivo agora
All my half-decent stuff is stuck on my dead phone. I should probably dig it out and back it up asap. But here are some different things in different styles:This fog of coming and going,Scraped by the setting sun.To capture a moment in time;Happiness from the barrel of a gun.//"Out of the cadaverous pile", i'm told,"There rose a figure of symbols and painted gold""And hot enough was it's glittering blaze""To strike men mad in a hundred different ways"I couldn't really say if what i heard was trueYou know how it goes with stories spun out of the blueBut i just can't say that i don't believe itBecause i saw it too and it was pure fucking evil//Driving further out into torrential rainThat deep inky nothingnessSwallowing memories againBones are aching and i've run too farWhether i hide in some houseOr the driver's seat of a carAnd i've got pin cushion eyes and a hole in my chestWith a weight somewhere where sentimentality used to have it's placeBut it starved and it writhed and so it withered awayAnd i guess i held it down by it's neck Because i couldn't bear to hear it complain
Perverted passions in the concrete jungleLaid bare by fluorescent lightsYou're sweating bullets as your balls danglePromising carnal delightsThey come to stick their cargo in your rudderThey've come to love you like a blow-up dollYou better make it squint, motherfuckerBecause your fart was a mating call
First poem I’ve written in a while - thoughts?
>>24885899Dogshit. Stop writing.
>>24885899It's pretty good. Some nitpicks: Dust and stardust in the same sentence feels uncreative. "You do not incur a fee" feels stiff and like a cheap setup for the following two lines, which are actually really good as they are. Also the line "Without being called a reprobate" has too many syllables, clashes with the estabilished style imo. Then, rhyming "shelf" with "myself" sounds a bit cheap, but this bothers me less than the others.Overall, pretty good. Keep it up!
I have no capacity for rhymes, meter or anything. Still I write as cheap therapy. -Love went unspoken for so long Its edges unknown to the most curious of mindsAs if infinite, shrouded in mysteryA faint trace of someone’s departure Never really emptying the spaces -We built entire cities never bothering to sketch Now the corners are rightThe streets are narrow when they need to beAnd the canals can swallow darkness like they’re meant to.
I wish that you would call.You don’t.I want you to come back.You won’t.
>>24885899You need to understand, anon, that after GPT rhymes are gone. It can be the best poem ever, it will feel GPTlike. Sorry.
Waste of time awayI don't care how they do itI don't care about that
Wasted time awayToo heavy are the weight of these mistakes Thats why life is fake
>>24887214To me, omething feels gpt-like when there is an unnecessary abundance of adjectives, and the tone gives you the impression of having been policed by a corporation's PR department. Its poetry generally misses a beat because, as you might expect, a glorified word-salad machine doesn't have any actual sense of rhythm. A chatbot's rhymed poetry is very much a case of poetic inability concealed (albeit poorly) by the jingling effect of end rhymes. It very often fails to get the meter right, even if you tell it to be strict. A human being couldn't write gpt-like poetry if they tried, because a human being can actually hear the flow of the language they're employing. Anon's poem could be better, no doubt, but to imply that anything other than straying from rhyme will leave a gpt-like flavor in the mouth, is, as far as I'm concerned, nonsense. Then again, perhaps your only or chief exposure to rhyme has been through chat gpt, amd you thus have the impression that rhyme=chatbot. If that's so, then, well, what more can I say?
IMy heart sung,Like when I was young,For the music And the feeling And the fullness.IIMy love, my love, my love,With the shadows in your eyesMy love, my love, my love,Why did you make me cry?IIIO joy that brushes me,Why do you depart so soon?O joy that departs so soon Why do you bump into me?