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>>10992380God I hate how pastel-y the colours are on him.
KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>10992380>>10992383TO THE SMELTING PIT WITH YOU!
>>10992380>repack a voyager from a few years ago>put less paint apps>give him tiny hammer>jack up the price to leader class because muh nostalgiaman you gotta be desperate if you paying retail for this
>>10992396>give him tiny hammerThey gave him a hammer, two guns, two swords, a torpedo, functional hands, and wrist blasters. I'm fine with my T30th, but I can see how someone might be tempted.
>>10992383The lack of thigh-angles is bothering me more than the arm kibble
Evan confirmed. 80s week every week.
>>10992389They made it very clear that Bee will be easy to find in storesHe's wavemates with TF1 Orion Pax as an A level toy, which I assume is a new term between hasbro and retails as *the* thing to keep stocked
>>10992409I never see anything in stock except for the shit that nobody wants, so excuse me if I'm not reassured.
Who is this?Rodimus?
>>10992413Flame is the popular theory.
I can't wait for the inevitable Legacy G1 vs MISSINGLINK cope
>>10992421I haven't thought about that nigga in decades, fuck!
>>10992421Flame has red hands though.
Honestly Im shocked that no one has confidently identified the mystery character. There is only so many characters it can be.
>>10992429Yes, we know. But its all we've got.
>>10992383>>10992391And preordered, stains are not as bad as I thought.>>10992413Flame and Xaaron 2-pack>>10992380I'm fine with Siege but if I see promotion like with Thronescream then I might get him.>>10992426If leaks are right then deluxe OP is hasbro budget ML try.
Thoughts on the Super7 Transformers line? I have Optimus, Megatron, and Grimlock and they’re not that bad. Some cool, deep cut accessories as well.
>>10992437The ones that don't transform? Who cares?
>>10991718 #"Slam dunk" is a little strong for Kingdom Rodimus. The bar for Rodimus is low because even the original toy is shit, but Kingdom has a lot of issues for being a big $80+ suped up Voyager.
>>10992437Horrible articulation and boring sculpts for a ridiculous price. Accessories are cool to be fair but if I'm getting a non-transforming TF figure I expect it to be more poseable than its transforming brethren, especially for that price. IIRC Prime's elbows don't even bend 90.
>>10992411Most things hang around for awhile. I've had lousy luck in brick and mortar, but on Amazon they usually pop back up for MSRP after the preorders are fulfilled. BBTS and Pulse usually keep stock for awhile too. I'm not super concerned. I've never understood the preorder desperation for most of this stuff. Even imports almost never require it.
>>10992383>>10992391I wish they stopped with the half assed comic shading. It just looks bad.
>>10992445
>>10992444>Most things hang around for awhile.Nope.
>these reveals‘Rainy Day’ box activated.
>>10992449Normal eraser does the job better.
>>10992445>>10992450>most thingslolNow THIS dickhead being unsellable for two years straight is why we're getting his overstock retooled into Straxus.
>>10992426I have an original Optimus (G2, to be fair) and Missing Link, but I'm still willing to throw $25 at the new deluxe if it looks good. I'd rather it were a new Optimus with G1 toy styling more than a literal spruced up G1 toy since ML already serves that purpose, but oh well.
>>10992458Retooling doesn't work that way
>>10992450What mainline release did you miss out on that you couldn't get for MSRP? I know GE Optimus was tricky (though Hasbro is selling another run through Pulse), and SS86 Ultra Magnus.
So assuming that it is Flame and the box is just an error or actually two guys, what do you think he will be forked from? Impactor or Skullgrin ?
>>10992467Morgan/Praxus ( I know how "reliable" he is) said WFC SS Megatron. I can kinda see this.
>>10992465Runabout and ramjet fuck us target
>>10992467Theres plenty of tanks to choose from.
>>10992468>>10992481>Has treadsSeems like reworking will need to happen since Megatron is a weird floating thing.
>>10992458Even the animated deco is hanging around for $30. I've never cared for Galvatron as a toy but it's still surprising to me.
>>10992383Straxus and his iconic getting bonked in the butt
>>10992493Strange all the images they used on the box are different colors than the toy. I know they said he varied a lot, but shouldn't they have gone with at least one which matches?
>>10992495They said on steam they went with first appearance colors, since the comics are very inconsistent
>>10992493>THIS is the comic guy I've been seeing in CHUG for years
>>10992383So what are the odds the first batch or so of this guy is also going to come with missassembled shoulders?
>>10992498I meant "why didn't they use an image from first appearance on the box".
>>10992501Straxus is a guy who is 100% carried by a cool design.
>>10992383>>10992391I REALLY like this guy, but I'm torn on whether I want to wait for a shading-less version or not.If one doesn't happen, do you guys know if stripping the shading printing is easy? Most of it here doesn't seem to be near or printed on top of already-painted bits, which is a relief.
>>10992516He was more fun in the UK stories.
>>10992517Just nail polish remover / acetone and a q tip. Just wash it off well. Or like >>10992457 said eraser works too apparently
>>10992522I'm not using nail polish remover or acetone because that shit can melt plastic, I've had bad experiences with it when trying to remove prints from Lego pieces before actually.Glad to hear that it's basically the same method, though, was worried it'd be different somehow lol. Thanks!
>>10992516His stories are actually really good too.
>>10992516Doesn’t he rip a nigga in half?
>>10992516He's world building, you can't rule a planet with just four top dogs.
>>10992527Tore an arm off.
>>10992401Isn’t supposed to be a bit taller too? I haven’t seen any size comparisons yet
Decided to get Straxus, Steeljaw, Springer and Cybertron Hotshot. Somewhat interested in the Decepticon Soldier and Skywarp but I reckon they'll hang around.
>>10992528There are like what, 100 Transformers? Seems entirely viable.
>>10992537How many of them have the wits and strength to rule a city?
>>10992459It sounds like the perfect opportunity to use more of optimus’ truck parts without relying on faux parts. I’d like to see the truck bumper used as his actual waist at least, stylized versions of the toy design look so cool
>>10992540Shockwave alone can do that.
>>10992530Where does this art even come from
>>10992545Being Hasbro it's even more likely to get redeco spammed as well, which I consider a good thing in this case. Give me Ultra Magnus.
>>10992546His interests are elsewhere.
>>10992516Looking cool is like 90% of the reason to get a transformer anywayI've gotten a lot of them just because they look cool, and learned about the actual character afterwards
>>10992550Looks like 'Salvage'. Its a mental hallucination.https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Salvage!
>>10992551White, black, purple, blue, and orange flavors!
>>10992413It's action Optimus Prime
>>10992380can his shoulder parts point up like on the original toy?
Apparently the Metalhawk PR in LegUni is gonna have better plastic colors (they called it "more toy accurate" as opposed to "animation"), fucking sweet. ...it's too bad I bought the current one just last month, but ah well, it was on deep discount anyway lol.Really looking forward to 86 Bee and Straxxus, and also Steeljaw if he doesn't sell out immediately like Rumble+Frenzy lol. Springer looks really nice, but I've just never liked the G1 design; would be really interested in a new IDW Springer though.Since Straxxus is a Pulse exclusive, should I just preorder him now, or will he be available on BBTS/EE/etc too?
>>10992586>or will he be available on BBTS/EE/etc too?Did Shockwave and Grimlock ever show up there?
>>10992586>>10992594Not yet when places like EE or BBTS get other site/store exclusives it's usually an overstock issue.
>>10992586Theres no way they'll use gold chrome on Hawk.
>>10992586>will he be available on BBTS/EE/etc too?As far as I know, the Comic Series toys are Pulse exclusive. If they do show up there eventually, it'll be a few years down the line, and only if Hasbro still has a ton of them lying around in their warehouse that they need to dump.
>>10992401>and wrist blastersoh neat, anybody snag a pic?
>>10992383Why do all non sword weapons need to be held like that, just having a small tip at the bottom of the handle to hold, It looks weird
>>10992380>New thread on page 9 or 10 or image limit. Any thread that doesn't say this and does not adhere to it or lacks the pastebins is not a legit /tfg/ thread
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>>10991732just fire every CEO, easy>>10991737yeah it's sad because they'd be making much MORE money if they did business the way they used to. but evidently morons are in charge now, exclusively. so money is not being made.>stock marketthat is definitely a big part of the problem. it has never made sense. Normally you make an investment and you get interest. in a stock, the stock goes up as the company grows, but they pay you nothing until you cash out. if the company stops growing (which it should), your investment stops growing.. so you should just sell it and enjoy your profits, but then the company suffers. it's mad. and now china is openly manipulating it to destroy economies that cross them.>>10992383this is a dumb as fuck weapon. why are they so bad at making weapons good? don't hold them by one end, and make the blade feel solid enough to do something. either make it a scythe or a pickaxe, it can't be both.
>>10992617It's both
>>10992457there's no way simple rubber can take off paint. that would suggest you could scrape it off with a dull knife or a fingernail.
>>10992622it sure doesn't look like this image you've posted. this looks.. better, but still flawed. too wide. a pickaxe is for puncturing, it needs to be thin and narrow.
>>10992621>holy shit four cakes
>>10992624Children's toy safety requirements.
>>10992630what are blackarachnia's claws
Springer looks good. More retooling than I was expecting. What are they doing with the mismatched wheels though? When has that ever been a thing?I noticed the back of the box render doesn't match the final toy, the render still has the Siege hips and thighs.
>>10992633Vestigial mouthparts.
>>10992634I really hope those tiny flank panels in his chest are pinned now, they were such an annoying part of an otherwise really solid mold
>>10992449I know about that, in fact I used it to remove all of Kingdom's Galvatron battle damage. But it shouldn't be there in the first place.>>10992457Not the case at all.>>10992522>acetoneJust NO. That fucks up the plastic easily.
>>10992642Siege and so one battle damage was the flexible bit in the budget to remove when cost goes up. Like the Wheelie with Grimlock.
>>10992634>>10992638>paying leader prices for voyagers
Surprise cat butthole!>>10992634>What are they doing with the mismatched wheels though?So the rear wheels blend with the helicopter mode tail while in choper mode.
>>10992645If he goes the way of Starscream, shouldn't be an issue.
>>10992634cool car, ridiculous shaver-shaped copter, decent hammer and sword. weirdly foldable shoulder folders.
>>10992636shaped like....(what do you mean vestigial, they are pedipalps)
>>10992634The new head and chest are reason enough to upgrade.
>>10992645I'm not saying I'm gonna get it, I'm already plenty satisfied with my WnR springer, but I'd still like to see thme fix that annoying issue in case I see him cleared out down the line or some shit
>>10992649Not on the MP or on the Kingdom toy.
>>10992646The front wheels should also be grey is the issue
>>10992646Blast effect compatible???
>>10992667Guess they didn't wanted to break the all green shoulders or based it on a random animation error.
>>10992669>PicrelI always imagine this is the kinda stuff police find on drives of would-be shooters.
>>10992679Guess the Siege mold will be moved to the Marvel shelf.
>>10992655The round biceps and thighs also do a lot for it. Making it a leader class toy is dickish, but it has more to offer than Galvatron so it's not the worst thing.
>>10992682But it isn't the accurate version for that.
>>10992676I wonder if the wheels are green because they're trying to be Springer's lil' circle bits on his arms.Great upgrade though.
>>10992657what? yes they areand more importantly my point is those are allowed to be long and thin and pointy. to the point that some people's broke.
>>10992692Close enough.
>>10992623>that would suggest you could scrape it off with a dull knife or a fingernail.because transformers don't have infamously shitty paint
>>10992714not -that- shitty
SS86 Springer doesn't really seem like much of an upgrade to me. Vehicle modes look mostly the same, copter mode still sucks, articulation looks mostly the same aside from opening hands.Where's the improvement, really?
>>10991718>heavily compromised commander ultra magnusI don't mind his Cinemascope-shoulders all that much per se, but as an Ultra Magnusfag it's kind of annoying that they went all-in on pure-animation-no-white-Convoy-allowed for the commander class price point. It would've made a lot more sense to apportion that for a traditional armored Convoy mold done right, as opposed to the awkward Siege/Kingdom half-assed one. As-is the Siege/Kingdom version just feels uncommitted and without purpose.
>>10992717It's just aesthetic. I think the new one looks somewhat better since I think the rounder parts do a better job of complementing the head, but it's all surface stuff. Even the face sculpt is a lateral move.
>>10992717Accessories
>>10992721Meh, Siege already came with more pieces than it knew what to do with.
>>10992718Glad the only version I got of that mold is SG, and Nova Prime if that countsSame with Springer, I got mostly grey Wrecker version so there is less redundancy Speaking of mostly grey; what is up with BBM Skywarp?He's like 75% grey, 25% purple, and 0% black
>>10992728>what is up with BBM SkywarpI think the deco looks nice. I've never liked the BB Starscream alt mode, though.
>>10992728It was grey.
Why did the stream act like the Deluxe Optimus was a big secret when they literally showed him dancing in a video on the stream.
>>10992737Because without context or looking at the legs, it could be mistaken for ML.
>>10992655did they mistransform helicopter mode or can he no longer do it right because of the new shoulders?
>>10992735WackThen it was doomed from the start
>>10992740The weird part is the films made Starscream a new head but Skywarp and Thundercracker got Blitzwing gasmasks anyway. Bumblebee seekers be whack yo
>>10992737I'm guessing it's because he's going to get a more elaborate showcase with its own preorder date.
>>10992744Starscream gets the distinct head because he is the leader. They did the same thing in Cyberverse.
>>10992739Back of the box has it correct.
>>10992753oh goodalso>make his fenders be able to partially cover up the wheels in robot mode>don't make his wheels able to flip up to show his shoulders, or to give him accurate helicopter wingsI love a lot of this new one, but leaving that bothers me.maybe he'll go on clearance and I can get one to customize.
>>10992458as a galvachad I double dipped on galvy II on discount. One with and one without the stickers applied>>10992655which sick fuck on the design team keeps cannibalizing older figures like this and arcee? I wonder if they get paid the same lmao
>>10992753goddamn his proportions are now fucked upthank Evan
>>10992413>tfw it's going to be Marvel comic Blaster and scroungerCalling it now
>>10992781>Voyager Blaster with toy accurate head >Core/Deluxe Scrounger that turns into a full wheelNow I'm going pissed if it's anything else
I wish the next comic pack was a two pack with Rack n Ruin or Scrounge packed with someone else.I think most likely for sure it will be an autobot of some sort.
>>10992781I thought it might have been so but comics Blaster has blue hands.
>>10992429hand colors are not the best to assume since we know they fuck that up all the time and even in the comics they went from different colors. In the two part smelting pool arc Blaster was off model and colors between both issues, startin with Blue or Yellow hands in issue 17 to then be Yellow and red in issue 18. And remember this is the same design team that has fuck up lots of characters colors or designs basing them off fan customs or what not. They don't have the best record of keeping true to the source.
>>10992794see >>10992796 and also consider how much the comics fuck up appearance even in the same issue and we know this team has made figures off of one source imagine that wasn't correct. Also they wiul sacrifice accuracy if paints or runners get in the way, like what we saw with Legacy Scourge.
>>10992615thanks buddy
>>10992803And our boy Strax had some serious weight and body issues in the two comics
>>10992781wasn't a toy accurate blaster head leaked awhile back?
>>10992803So really it is comic Blaster as the last guy.
>>10992796They cleaned up those errors a lot in the trades and collections since the originals. I'm sure Hasbro would have those on hand and not the old comics
>>10992813I mean, we can only fear/hope as such, could still be Flame or Xarn or someone else. Here's what I'm curious about, we knew about Straxus thanks to the leaks, has there been anyone else leaked that would fit the bill for the last comic spot?
There has been a Blaster released every year since 2021 and they're all the same mold, as well as the web exclusive SG Blaster. I can hardly believe they'd release another Blaster the same year
>>10992815The Fallen, Prima, and Dinoking>>10992816we are getting the damn Rock car 4 times before this year is over, the rock bike 3 times and the rock helicopter twice. Not even getting into the sea of refreshes that happened last year and this year. They are squeezing these molds out pretty bad right now.
>>10992810I'll always remember my favorite way someone described his look>Straxus was always a fatty in the comics. His body had the bulky shape of a Pretender shell, like he should crack in half and have a skinnier robot hiding inside.
>>10992621Fucking hilarious that they forgot how to make a decent sword that turns into helicopter blades
I just realized this, but why is the artwork for Leader Soundwave clearly based on the Core class figure?
>>10992816>>10992823Skids gotten has 7 so far counting all retools and the leaks. They got Vector Prime out of Jhiaxus. and most if not all the molds made since 2022 have had at least 3 or more retools/uses. I mean, fuck man most of 2025 is just exclusives now being sold as part of the mainline.
>>10992828you are correct and the core is planned for a refresh this year/next. Hopefully that was just an error and they are not going to troll everyone in a couple of months and show off the refresh core class box.
>>10992827They have forgotten a lot over these last few decades. Look at Legacy Sideburn to 2000 RiD Sideburn.
>>10992828>>10992833This reminds me of how the artwork for core Nemesis depicts the Earthrise mold despite the fact that Legacy core Optimus's artwork is the core version, and a Earthrise mold Nemesis doesn't even exist.
>>10992380Look what i found lads
>>10992823>>10992831There's a big difference between a mold getting whored around like the Sideswipe or Skids mold and Blaster seeing multiple releases in 4 years as Blaster, Blaster, Blaster, blue Blaster, and SG Blaster.
>>10992828That IS the Core box art.
>>10992828It's just reusing the box art since they said it would be the Netflix mold, not the first time since the cancelled Velocitron Hot Rod used his core class art and the Retro G1 seekers all used their Earthrise art.
>>10992843Cool robot, nonsense alts.
>>10992845Oh that's right... I forgot Kingdom Soundwave got repacked in Legacy.
>>10992843TRANSFORMERSROBOTS UNDISGUISEDTRANSFORMERSALT MODES NO ONE TRIES
When is Straxus (and Shockwave and Grimlock for that matter) meant to release, do we know?
>>10992853Pulse has him listed for October so he'll probably ship towards the end of August
>>10992844He’s been selling as good as BB, Optimus and the like. Also you really want to give them that much credit as they be smart enough to stop themselves? They rolled out leader Grimlock 3 times with less than 14 months apart. (SG, G2 and comic)
>>10992843I got him on a whim after years of not buying movieformers and I love him. Jet mode's definitely the shittiest of the bunch though, the cannon doesn't tab very well under it.
>>10992857There is a world of distance between the popularity of Grimlock and Blaster.
>>10992844Who other than Blaster would use it? Toaster is barely above theoretical.
>>10992861Blaster also is cheaper.
>>10992861Yeah and they used/made more Blasters in this time frame than him. Do you get my point now?
>>10992816See you just doomed yourself and they are going up roll him out both for the comic pack and as some refresh in 2025. You should know better than to use logic and reasoning when dealing with Hasbro.
>>10992816That one in your pick is a Target exclusive and we know they are doing his other cassettes with accessories that work with him in the main toy line. I wouldn’t even flinch if we saw more versions of him in the following months.
>>10992862There's Soundwarrior AKA Micro Change Blaster AKA the OTHER blue Blaster.
>>10992868And then Blastwave who isn't based on Blastwave, but Blaster in Soundwave's colors.
>>10992816Are you forgetting the sea of sideswipes we got between Siege and Kingdom?
>>10992828>>10992845>INB4 it's a SS86 style Core Class sold at Leader Price but he comes with SS86 style Cassettes
>>10992837Sideburn is a hard complication of the design team not knowing how to design a robot with dynamic proportions. Look at animated prime for another excellent example.
>>10992842metalic energy axe? that's sacrilege. unless it's like... nano-metal axe that .. forms.. around his hand..
So are there any differences between the Buzzworthy Terrorsaur and the Pulse exclusive Terrorsaur and the Japan releae of Terrorsaur?
>>10992896Yes
>>10992852this guy does have an altmode though
>>10992896only colors, i think
So close...
>>10992914Bumblebee? I don't think he particularly close.
>>10992907Nothing worth caring about.
>>10992646
>>10992916okay but that hilarious song parody was not "The altmode sucks"it was "there isn't an altmode"
>>10992862Blasters brother, Blister
>>10992919And his second cousin, Bloster
>>10992862>Who other than Blaster would use it?Billy, obviously. He died a hero.https://youtu.be/DVRm6C9xOrA?si=hplveJuWqqdgl0AA
>>10992881Funny thing is it would be a better figure than the netflix offering
>>10992896Buzzworthy is toy colors and Pulse/Japan two-pack version are two different attempts to do a show accurate color scheme. Also, Pulse has a couple of extra accessories (most notably a golden disc).
>>10992765>One sword for the transformation, one sword for screen accuracy. Well, OK then.
>>10992935Netflix Soundwave is 10/10 honestlyIt's just the discoloration issue, Tho now there's a fresh new run of him remade in the Nemesis Bridge set
>>10992958Strongly disagree. I'm not gonna pretend it's a horrible figure but I don't like how it has vestigial garbage from siege (VERY common theme with ER remolds) and the alt mode is terrible and gappy and leaves him with an ugly buttplate. Somehow they made him fail at turning into a cohesive brick
>>10992921Lets not forget his stepbrother, Bluster
>>10992981>gappyWhat gaps?
>>10992981I could get the Buttplate but Siege Soundwave really wasn't bad. Sucks it had to wait for Soundblaster and a Legacy Release to widen the Chest to hold 2 CassettesFelt like a different flavor of WfC/FoC Soundwave, The fan mode "radio" is cool to me and looks Soundwave like enough. It doesn't all have to be mini masterpiece and G1 designsTho given 3P is doing it for only slightly more price there really is no excuse by Hasbro to not get shit right
>>10993000I unironically love Siege Soundwave. I never cared much for the tape recorder mode, so if he's going to transform into a brick, I'll take the brick that kinda looks like a spaceship. Plus it makes him a good pal for Cosmos, and I really like the thruster kibble behind his head.
>>10993014I want that mold of Cosmos recolored into Pathfinder
>>10992737Missing Link stole that thunder. There's a huge difference in price of course, but it makes what would have been an exciting reveal a couple years ago just seem redundant at best and a little neutered by comparison at worst. Judging by the video it doesn't look bad though. I'm sure it will sell too.
>>10992998I don't like how lumpy it looks. It looks like a fanmode with some extra parts slapped on to make it kind of look like a tape deck (which is exactly what it is). Maybe a leader class paint job will make it look better, but I doubt it.
Just wait until Missing Link Soundwave.
How is this thing?
>>10992907TRANSFORMERSALTMODES BARELY TRYTRANSFORMERSCYBERTRONIAN LIES
>>10992988And his religions uncle, Blesster
>>10993024It certainly is an exosuit, the altmode does the job okay. The articulation is pretty shit though honestly.
>>10993027that works
>>10993024They couldn't even bother to paint the face? How tall is that?
>>10993035The MP humans don't have faces either. It is fine.
>>10992998If you look at it from the front, the entire chest is just hovering off of the buttons, there's bit chunks cut out of the sides and back too.Actually, it looks way fucking worse now that I'm seeing it again. Not a single satisfying surface on that entire mess.
Got metroplex for 100. Anything I need to do to him?
>>10993040Who's gonna keep Soundwave in his disguised mode though, really?
>>10993049His whole thing is being a microcassette player. Even ones that turn into vehicles still have a tape deck and buttons.
>>10993049that's a pretty poor excuse..personally I don't think any soundwave altmode has ever been good. even in Prime where it was thematically on to make him one of those drone planes, they.. look dumb compared to other planes. The satellite movie toy was okay, but that wasn't very movie-accurate. and when they made him a way-smaller car, that was double dumb.I have no attachment to an 80s microcassette player, but it seems to me if that's his altmode, you should go for full realism. After all, he's one of those guys like Prime that requires next to no cheating for the transformation, so why not?
picked up x9 and tripredacus agent recently. don't love tripredacus agent but he looks really good. x9 is awesome all around but i will never understand why he's beige where he should be silveri wish someone, anyone, would do a core/legends sized waspinator and quickstrike. also no more beast machines stuff listed, leaked or teased for the future on hasbro's end is sad. i don't want to wait til i'm 30 for botanica but i get that the toy industry is dying and g1 ad nauseam is the lifeboat
>>10993049Even with figures I tend to keep in robot mode, I find a better alt mode makes the transformation more fun and satisfying. I don't have a G1 Soundwave (Missing Link when?) but if I did I would probably keep it in player mode a good portion of the time. That's the whole fun of transformers for me, and why figures like the new Studio Series Megatron have no appeal to me whatsoever.
>>10993059why do you want a tinier waspinator?also MAN those were good sculpts. I am pretty jelly.
>>10993054*laughs in grill and sometimes windshield*
>>10993059>g1 ad nauseamI won't pretend G1 isn't the (rightful) bedrock, but we've had a lot of non-G1 stuff in recent years. Beast Machines also just isn't well-liked.
>>10993059Botanica is fucked so hard I think they will make a new character in a future show named Botanica which only has "plant" in common and get a toy of her before the Beast Machines one.
>>10993087i wonder how you would do a satisfying plantmode. especially if it's meant to be an ambulatory alien plant
Why do some guys get G1-fied and others don't?
>>10993094
>>10993067i like small maximals/predacons (deluxe and below) and large autobots/decepticons. pic related is the best example i have. depth charge and rampage are the only larger bw characters i have. i'd probably buy a voyager megatron though, 10th anniversary and robot masters are kind of silly next to deluxe dinobot>>10993085"ad nauseam" is kind of unfair given the sudden dearth of armada and cybertron updates and new weaponizers, but things like hasbro and takara both making "g1 toy prime but new," springer being a pretty mediocre upgrade for a whole new price point, and how they're raw dogging the shit out of ss86 to get every sunbow guy the most definitive toy possible in general in the shortest amount of time things feel like they're playing it safe as possible both on hardcore and casual buyer appeal lol>>10993087 probably true. rescue bote academy botanica never :(
>SS 86 DevastatorWhile a new Devastator sounds cool and all. They really gonna pretend that Defensor and Superion don't exist? We just got the stunticons two years ago.
>>10993098
>>10993101i like little ones too but i'd rather have an OC so I can put him on the shelf with my waspinator, and he's just a smaller bug guy. and also I just want more beast OCs in general please.
>>10993102Superior is next year, bruticus the year after. Defensor is the odd man out so far
>>10993101>and how they're raw dogging the shit out of ss86 to get every sunbow guy the most definitive toy possible in generalSome of it is a little ridiculous, like the mini-bots all getting great Legends class toys in the Prime Wars trilogy and then immediately getting redone in Deluxe class. (I do want another Windcharger though.)
>>10993014I love Siege Soundwave's alt mode and I'm tired of pretending I don't
>>10993049Me, Blaster too.
>>10993126I kinda like it too. if it was a lot less bricky, I'd be downright into it. This is the kind of thing I want 'cybertronian modes' to be. cool spaceships out of a shmup, or a movie about cool spaceships.
>>10993102I just want a good DevastatorWe haven't like ever really gotten one when I really think about itThere's been some good ones but not the G1 boysI just really like their alt modes and designs for stuff
>>10993137it's pretty rougha vehicle that turns into a limb has a tough time turning into a good robot (you can't just split the JOINTS up into pieces, that is a non-negotiable block of material. and that's not even getting into hands)making the whole thing bigger makes it easier to make each bot more complex, but now they have to combine into a solid body, so that requires even more support / more limited articulationcombiners are awesome, but there's a reason they were a lot more popular in the old days, when nobody cared about shitty bricky robot modes and cheaty combiners that required a whole handful of separate pieces to be added on.
>>10993096>other don'tWho are you thinking of?
>>10992765The fuck is the warhead from? Or is it just an old crapper tank?
>>10993165It's what Springer fires at Devastator in the movie.
>>10993094Don't make it humanoid. Be something like Audrey II or Biollante.
>>10993132But this one is lame. Cool spaceships are things like X-wings.
Is there a website that archives hi res images of the artwork used on packaging? I really want to make some desktop wallpapers.
>>10993203i should fucking hope it's not humanoid.though you're making me wonder, what if the robot mode wasn't either? plant that turns into a dinosaur? i'd be down for that. beast wars 2/neo was trying that but in a shitty way
>>10993212this is basically a y-wing mixed with Jet Black's ship from Cowboy Bebop. how can you not like it? it looks like a space hot rod.. except too squarey.>>10993214i wish, that would be awesome.
>>10993137We got 4 of 6 good constructicond on the UW set, Longhaul had to be sacrificed for gestalt mode and I don't know why they decided to fuck with Mixmaster altmode, but they made his botmode akward with the drum tail and weird toes.
>>10993223It is entirely rectangles. Both those example ships have rounded sections and look like something instead of just a robot folded up.
>>10993252like I said, the only issue I have with it is how squarey it is. I'm with you there.
>>10993245I really like the idea of Long Haul being absolutely massive, I just hate how wibbly and insubstantial they made his forearms
>>10992717Most of the figure has been retooled and the shoulders, chest and backpack all have more going on with them for transformation. The blacked out parts are all the parts that have been replaced on the new one.
SS86 Brawn is awesome. Here's hoping for Outback.
>>10992380I JUST WANT A CARTOON ACCURATE VERSION OF UNICRON IN ROBOT MODE AND IF THEY WERE SMART THEY'D DO THAT AND ALSO INCLUDE A VERSION OF HIM IN PLANET MODE!!!THERE'S ALREADY A PRETTY GOOD VERSION THAT IS CARTOON ACCURATE AND TRANSFORMER BUT IT'S TOO BIG AND EXPENSIVE!!!FACT!!!
>>10993311so you'd like a downscale of that? china might actually be able to help you there. not sure.
>>10992459>>10992545I already have this version of Optimus and whoever designed him to have him also include Orion Pax is a fucking genius! For me I never need another version as that one is a masterpiece!!!FACT!!!
>>10993311We'll probably get one in 2026 or 2027.
>>10993311What would you realistically be willing to pay for it?
>>10993316orion pax just folds up and becomes his chest and head? why didn't they put that last tiny bit of the roof on his back too? surely that isn't doing much to stabilize the arms or anything.wait, do the two of them form the regular truck or...
>>10992843>Look what i found ladsGot him by sheer chance at my local Wal-mart where there was only one copy and hidden on the bottom shelf behind a bunch of other figures and he looks great!!!FACT!!!
>>10993305Brawn's weird crotch piece that has details sculpted into the back of it is most definitely there for an Outback retool.I wonder if they'd give him new legs though since Outback's are more invoking of the Og toy's than Brawn's.
>>10993319>What would you realistically be willing to pay for it?Depends. Let's say they included both versions of robot and planet mode that were cartoon accurate, between $100-$150 would be my ideal price range. He doesn't even need to be huge, the same height as the concept art Megatron would be fine. I was hoping that they'd release him as a part of the R.E.D. series as I love those!!!FACT!!!
>>10993311>>10993316Oh and is anyone else really, really, really excited for this fucking abomination.....https://youtu.be/5a09yJU-mCI?si=mxmNMeM58lGAFXrlFirst animated Transformers movie since the 86 original and this fucking Pixar/MCU tier trash is what we get, fuck everyone involved in this and I hope they live long enough to see their children slowly die of rectal cancer!!!FACT!!!
>>10993332you're... excited?
>>10992868>Comic Blaster in 2024>Toy Blaster in 2025
>>10993321>orion pax just folds up and becomes his chest and head? why didn't they put that last tiny bit of the roof on his back too? surely that isn't doing much to stabilize the arms or anything.>wait, do the two of them form the regular truck or...I think the roof is for stability when he's inserted in the chest cavity, anywho, don't care as he's beautiful while he does transform to a truck!!!FACT!!!
>>10993333>you're... excited?As excited as having a chainsaw proctology exam!!!FACT!!!
>>10993335oh fuck i looked it upthe prime body turns into the TRAILER. that's crazy. no part of him becomes the cab.. so weird.. but sort of awesome. like an alternate version of how the toy could have worked in the first place...
>>10993311Just get Studio Cell
>>10993337that's a rock fact
>>10993030And the nefew Billy
>>10993126I will never not see his engines as pigtails.
>>10993373
inexcusable
>>10993335TFW they didn't retool this for Transformers One
>>10993384did something break, or.. is it the slight mismatch of the paint>>10993390it'd have to be pretty extensive retooling since he's a cybertron truck in that movie
>>10992765yo, Blitzwing and Astrotrain came with more stuff and they were completely new molds, what gives
Wait, if Professor Sundeck created Sari from Megatron's TNA, then wouldn't that make Megatron her father?
>>10993400That's not what happened.
>>10993400naw she is the one piece of tech he didn't reverse-engineer from megatron. because Megs didn't arrive for quite a while, remember? she's already eight.she's made from a protoform that scanned Isaac's DNA, and apparently remixed it a bit to make it female. so she's kinda his X-23.
>>10993393it's obviously supposed to be painted to complete the windowthey just didn't care enough to actually DO that
>>10993402>apparently remixed it a bit to make it femalethat's interesting to think about, that it went with the x chromosome and ended up female
>>10993405i'm sorry anon, I don't know or see what you're talking about, and if this image isn't the same one as before, I don't see the change.do you mean the tiny triangle of yellow at the bottom right corner of the larger of the two black patches that I take it are windows?
>>10993406and must have doubled it, unless the other half of her DNA is cybertronian or something.
>>10993407holy fuck i hate transformers fans so much
Personally, I really want them to do a new Superlink/Energon Unicron at Titan class. Look at his sickass Halloween colors, and the rotting/emaciated green energon details he's got going on, that's fucking rad as hell. He also shared that with Starscream in the show, making them both sorta zombie-lookin, but SS's toy didn't really reflect that the best.Anyways this would make for a fucking awesome companion to the core SL Galvy they did, they oughta do more UT lads in Core class in general, given how every year had several huge Titans lol (Unicron twice, Tidal Wave's three colorschemes, the Planet Force-powered Starscream, Primus, etc etc...)Beast Era guys should have more Core guys too, fwiw, but rather for "canon" scaling with the regular toys because I always found it funny how tiny they really were lmao.
>>10993408well yeah, i meant for the second chromosome it went with x over y
>>10993410you just made me slightly annoyed i passed on energon zombie 'cron. i couldn't justify a 4th copy of that mold but now i can...>SS's toy didn't really reflect that the bestliterally what the fuck are you talking about anonski>Beast Era guys should have more Core guysi'm annoyed they didn't make diver first since snarl/tasmania kid's original toy is easily obtainable, but yes core class has the most potential with beastformers. god knows we're almost out of tapes already
>>10993417>>10993410Best Unicron to this day, still I would love to get new one for Armada.
>>10993417>literally what the fuck are you talking about anonskiHuh, for some reason I remembered SL Nightscream/Starscream as having more damage detailing on his show model than the toy, but no; aside from the toy lacking his facial scar, it's mostly spot-on.
>>10993424i passed on one recently and now it's gone, ah well>>10993426next time don't abbreviate a name once inbetween using the full name before and afterespecially when you only abbreviate other toylines and not namesavoids sowing confusion that you're talking about studio series which has been abbreviated as SS for fucking YEARS
>>10993428I knooowwww anooooon but I wass laaaaaaazyyyyyyy
the rose-gold on Silverbolt is actually really nice
>>10992892RiD Sideburn still holds up great, as long as you know to be careful because his car mode is like 90% translucent plastic.Legacy Sideburn is a downgrade int every aspect outside of durability.
>>10992998this is mistransformed, they skipped the step where the two panels under the buttflap fold out over the sides on the bottom.
>>10993457man he still looks good I hate the new one
>>10993214I've been wanting something like that for almost ten years
>>10993126I'm w/ you anon, I like it for what it does while still being within G1 Soundwave>>10993252>>10993255I dont think they could have done more w/o having soundwave deviate from his G1 form& easily when they did BBM Soundwave, I looked back at how good Siege did it at making a coherent alt mode (visible cockpit, thrusters, landing gear).Meanwhile BBM Soundwave alt mode, idk if it can fly, roll on the ground or being cooked w/ a pan
>>10993126The nose of the ship needs work, as it is it's like a floating bar of soap
>>10992875Oh god you reminded me of that horror that seemed to be endless from 2019 to 2021. Walmarts glutted with Netflix Sideswipes to then be Netflix Red Alerts, to then be Netflix Deepcovers and the last one was even more crazy because at the same time Netflix Deepcover dropped they also released toy accurate Deepcover on fan channels. Someone on the team fucking loves that Lamborghini model.
>>10993493and dont forget the G2 sunset Sideswipe from the Toxitron subline
>>10993335>he's beautifulPot Pee is ugly no matter which toy it is.
>>10993494>>10993494Clampdown from Speedy 5k is also missing.Has any mold been whore out this much? Or even for the same character?
>>10993493And I still couldn't get one of these...
I want a Wreckers version of the SS86 Springer Surely they can milk Springer fans one more time, right?
>>10993511Wait for IDW one when trademark will slowly expire.
Have you taken the K-pill yet, bros?
>>10993495Wrong.
>>10993533engineering looks nice but the plastic and deco look too sentai-ish
>>10993494>shortpacked him and Dead End>the two decos I wanted most from that setSuffering
>>10993536>"Wrong">*Posts woke feminazi dinobot*Thank you for proving my point. Pot Pee is bad.
>feminazishe's a piece of plastic
>>10993316I’ll be getting missing link as well, relax
>>10993539damn.for me he is my absolute favourite version of this mold lol
>>10993548Still doesn't disprove that Pot Pee bad.
>>109933113rd party you silly nigger. Weren't you dying on a hill defending this thing a week or two ago? What's the matter with you?
>>10993533Which ones are those?
>>10993544Wrong.
>>10992465Too many to list. I see less than 50% of any given wave. If it's a store exclusive, I never see any of them.
>>10993493It's insane that this many versions of this mold came out, and I never saw ANY of them in stores, with the exception of Kingdom Red Alert; my Walgreens has had like 13 of them for two straight years, no clearance, lmao.>>10993494I wanted this version so bad, but I never saw any of the Toxitron shit. I fucking hate Transformers.
>>10993337
>>10993316I unironically miss toys with cool, forced gimmicks. I don't even mind the shitty stickers as much anymore. I didn't know what we had until it was gone.
>>10993493>>10993494>>10993497Don't forget SG Sideswipe and the coming Armada Wheeljack
>>10993618>Armada WheeljackI remember when we first saw that mold in 2018 and everyone assumed an Armada Wheeljack retool was likely. I told myself I was gonna wait until that happened, and here we are 6 years later, and I still don't own a single copy of that mold.At this point, I feel like I'm just gonna skip Armada Wheeljack, too, and this is gonna be my first step toward realizing I don't actually need to buy toys. Pray for me bros.
>>10993539Walked in to walmart and some employee put out a fresh case during clearance season. Picked up Dead End for $16. Left the rest since I got SS already and just wait till the rest end up in ROSS again.
>>10993598Tobot V Paragon/Classic & Metal cardbot black hook.Paragon has a custom cape
>>10993533Korean robits always seem to be a tossup between "Insanely cool concept for a transforming robot" or "generic carbot with the worst proportions you've ever seen". And occasionally you get the "Insanely cool concept with the worst proportions you've ever seen". They're all nice and chonky though
>>10993405And the yellow door frame is painted black on the bottom
Which TF toy would you consider "perfect"? For me it's Siege Spinister.
Can anyone who owns Volvo prime measure the length of the truck with a ruler I need it for scale autism purposes
>>10993667SS86 Hotrod.Spinisters good but I find him a bit fiddly and no Targetmasters.
>>10993667Spinister is great but I want a version that doesnt have the entire lower legs made of clear plastic. I'd probably consider Missing Link Prime to be a "perfect" figure, it has a very clear goal, be a highly articulated 1:1 remake of the original toy, and it accomplishes exactly that. Other than that its hard to think of perfect toys, even my favorites or the most highly praised figures have one or two things that slightly bother me or I wish was different. Maybe Siege Jetfire? Weird choice probably but he's just a really solid, huge, nicely poseable jetformer with a good amount of fun extras and the best blast effects they've ever done. Pretty much a perfect first Commander Class, and I'm not even super into jet/skyfire's toon design
>>10993667 Movie Cyclonus.
>>10993671From a review>6.25" (16cm) long, approximately 1:48 scale
>>10993714Thank you
>>10993667HFTD Highbrow
>>10993035Core class ish. Besides, the head's in a blurry plastic cone, so you wouldn't be able see any detail anyway.
>>10993667>Which TF toy would you consider "perfect"?I'll let you know when I find it. Picrel comes the closest. Or MP Artfire; he just needed some toy accurate sculpting on his shins.
>>10993667>Which TF toy would you consider "perfect"?Missing Link Convoy would have gotten that label from me if they had improved his neck. I feel like they easily could have retooled the head to give it an up/down tilt.
>>10993332What if they suit suit actors for Transformers movies?
>>10993533>70 dollars for a deluxeFuck no.
>>10993742Neck articulation is frustratingly limited in this toyline. 99% of figures just have balljointed heads, ALL they need to do is put a little cut in the back of the head and bam, 90 degrees of head movement. It's that fucking simple, and they never do it
>>10993332I dunno. It's always hard to tell from a trailer because they might be cutting together the absolute worst bits in a desperate attempt at modern kid appeal. It doesn't look amazing, no, but I'm interested to see Hollywood stumble their way through something without any fucking humans for a change. RotB was such a goddamn homo-sapien slog.
>>10993758I think about this all the time. I have like one or two bots that have the space at the back of their head to allow them to tilt their necks up all the way. And it doesn't even need to be all the way; just let me get a 45 degree upward tilt, at least.
>>10993667Deathsaurus
>>10993667I don't know if it's 100% perfect (the tab for the gun arm snapping does make that arm useless), but off the top of my head it's pretty damn close. It's huge, it's loaded with gimmicks that don't hinder regular play, the transformation is simple and fun which makes it enjoyable to quickly switch between modes (almost as fast as he does it on the show), it's 99% show accurate which is impressive for the Beast Era, and the articulation is almost as good as a modern figure.
Has anyone gotten charged for the latest Target exclusive four-pack or am I getting scammed?
Does the deluxe Optimus have a trailer or nonIf I missed Earthrise then perhaps this is the way to go
>>10993846That'll be a voyager + tip price point
>>10993024Ended up getting him for 12 CAD, but he's consistently on sale for 9 CAD now. If you can get him for dirt-cheap there's literally no reason not to get him. I found that rather than being scared shitless from playing with a favourite figure I might accidentally wear out, I've been playing a LOT more with Spike from an initial indifference to him, to realizing that he's actually pretty pleasant and fun. Pretty much he sure is an exo-suit, but having one human in a sea of robots means that's a pretty badass human. You can also pretend it's a pretender if you don't like Spike, or are put off by him not having a face>>10993850What
>>10993846Given that he's specifically listed as a deluxe, and deluxe is a price point and not a size class, I'd wager there's no trailer.
>>10993667LG Scourge
>>10993853>retooled voyager plus some props bumps it up to leader class>but they cannot include a plain empty box with wheels for OptimusI should have done what I wanted to do twenty years ago and make Optimus a trailer out of cardboard
Those new kissing links look amazing. Had to order them
>>10993667Do you think the future two-pack version will include the matching Battle Masters, new smaller ones to be consistent with Needlenose and presumably Quake, or be naked?
>>10993894>kissing links
>>10993856I wish the new one was something more like this.
>>10993859>but they cannot include a plain empty box with wheels for OptimusThey could have. It would have just "bumped" it up to voyager class, the same way including a trailer with the voyager bumped it up to leader class. The only way a deluxe sized optimus would come with a trailer would be if the figure itself were actually core-sized, but that's not the case.Hasbro ain't gonna give you free plastic, bro. Especially not in (current year)
>>10993918I know what I said
>>10993921The only thing I like about the original version is that it has ten wheels.
>>10993859That's always been the case. Hell, back in Classics the original plan for Optimus was he was going to be a smaller deluxe mold and then sold with a trailer at double the price as a voyager as well. They eventually decided against it and upscaled the design (and gave him the transforming smokestack gun), but not early enough that fans didn't get to see a leaked listing saying that was the plan.
>>10993945The original is better than the new one too, though. The new one is just weird. It's worse in ways that are hard to square. FansHobby's is MP-scaled, but the engineering is extremely simple. Hasbro made it more difficult for no gain.
>>10993457I bought one at 35 bucks, soon he will be mine, i gotta thank hasbro for making me hate the new one and actively chase the old one lmaoAlso managed to land a good RID Prime without the supermode parts, still nice enough
>>10993667Any BW MP
>>10993859Rodimus Prime and its shitty trailer was used to justify it being $85. Hasbro will Hasbro. Takara is no better.
>>10993971I feel like the only reason Legacy G2 Prime transforms the way it does was so they could re-use the leg engineering from WfC Prime.
>>10993980But ER prime had zero leg engineering, unlike seige
>>10993971>FansHobby's is MP-scaled, but the engineering is extremely simple.I own that guy and I love him, but he probably could have benefitted from a BIT more complex engineering. His arms just hang awkwardly off the sides of the alt mode, as the feet do off the back, and the sides are just generally scrappy.He also ends up just being way too damn big in alt mode because of how little plastic is actually shared between the bot framework and the truck. Hasbro's alt mode is a LOT better looking, which is a weird thing to say given how much they suck at that lately.
>>10992383Remember when we all feared we'd get THIS Straxus one day?
>>10994004>I own that guy and I love him, but he probably could have benefitted from a BIT more complex engineeringI agree, though I don't own it myself. That's kind of my point, though. Legacy's is a lot more complex but it's also a mess.
I genuinely hate this car mode. It's not even a decent penny racer/Choro-Q, it's a toadline VW Beetle.>SMASHED AND SLAMMED
Did these suck ass or something? I don't see much discussion of them here. Optimus looks neat.
>>10994013Thanking God we did not
>>10994027I still can't believe its not a bettle. The used the license to release a ton of Bee movie merch and we know Volk to allow an SD car. Now we have to sit and wait on the off chance they actually release a proper version later.
>>10994027It's not great. I don't hate the overall shape even if the roof is wrong, but a lot of the separations are in the worst places. In a warped way it makes me better appreciate why MP-45 is the specific kind of clusterfuck that it is.
>>10994043Because they wanted to include a "put Spike inside" gimmick?
Just got my Magmatron, I haven't transformed him yet but he's really impressive
>>10994046Say what you will about the figure as a whole, but MP-45 does a much better job with its panel breaks even if it's far from seamless. It's hard to miss the crumpled up robot crammed inside, but the alt mode still comes out better for it. SS86's alt mode isn't bad enough to be called an afterthought, but I think they approached it the wrong way.
>>10994042Adding more, here's hoping we get a retool when they finally release a movie acccurate SS Bee movie Bumblebee.
Hasbro Pulse put up their own listings for the Missing Link Bumble and Cliff.Marketing blurb guy accidentally just copy and pasting words>TRANSFORMERS 40TH ANNIVERSARY: This Missing Link C-03 Bumblebee figure celebrates 40 years of Transformers robots by modifying the G1 Bumblebee toy design to be fully poseable, with animation-accurate deco!
>>10994028Tie-in for a game that is "lol" in terms of release date. Soundwave can't do the whole "store microcassettes" thing.
>>10994060I don't care about the game either way, though it is funny how bungled the release has been. The toys just seem solid.
>>10994028Best recent Optimus and great Soundwave. They were posted closer to release date.>>10994051He's really fun, shame that Landsaurus cloaka can't stay tabbed in dino mode.
>>10994013What the fuck is that? Tumblr sexyman Straxus?
>>10994074Soundwave is all backpack
>>10994027Eh, its alright, you can get agent hornet if you want a better penny racer.
>>10994083Don't bring your filth here.
>>10993411ah yes, the bitch chromosome
>>10993145Yea it's harder and harder to do a smooth Bot that's Vehicle/Bot/LimbEven 3P struggles with that and majority of the time and goes Parts Forming or has an exo skeleton almost>>10993245I wish I could find the UW versions separately
>>10993433>I demand...>hot spider babes and steak'umms!!do you think since he's a bird dog, he barfs up the bones of things he eats, then chews those same bones
>>10993311>>10993316>>10993322>>10993327>>10993332>>10993335>>10993337You need to fuck off back to whatever facebook group or TFW Threads you came fromHoly shit what a bad troll
>>10993667If we are talking over all it likely be a toy between 1995 and 2002 when the line was at that serious mix of play and details. Things like >>10993803 were loaded with articulation, action gimmicks that didn't get in the way of the toy and very durable.
>>10993929>>10993948>denying me my free plastic>it HAS to come at a horrible price>they'll always overprice something but never underprice anythingEven Steeljaw looks overpriced for core-class with his stubby kneeless legs, that singular speaker somehow warrants the price and sacrifice, I'll continue to buy things only discounted>>10993977More like 90 USD because Canadian reasons
>>10993460you knowmistransformed stock photos make it REAL HARD to judge a toy before buying it
>>10993533If they weren't impossible to find online yea
>>10994099That is why they have online toy review videos
>>10994085Deloreatron wasn't that bad.
>>10993483oh right, i forgot this is from the "everything must be just like g1" era.funny how that era keeps coming back
>>10993483oh the one that looked like a butterflied chicken?
>>10992816>I can hardly believe they'd release another Blaster the same yearThey used this Shockwave mold 9 times since 2019, all of them were Shockwave with little to no change to the deco. This is suppose to count for both Cyberverse and EarthSpark Shockwave. This is not counting the Siege mold or ever green mold. Hasbro doesn't care about over saturating the market and Blasters have all been selling well, I feel like we will see him again one way or another.
>Shitspark is dead>New show in worked on nowAny hopes since midspark flopped so hard?
>>10993245Yeah, no, I'm playing this revisionist game. The CW constructicons looked like shit, posed like shit outside of the arm bros (and takara really did not fix this), had the the most flimsy, shitty plastic and to top it all off, the devastator we got out of it wasn't even that good. If this mediocre set didn't have devastator's name to hang on it'd be tossed into the memory hole like potp predaking
>>10992844>There's a big difference between a mold getting whored around like the Sideswipe or Skids mold and Blaster seeing multiple releases in 4 years as Blaster, Blaster, Blaster, blue Blaster, and SG Blaster.Not really, it just shows how much Hasbro has broken you to the whole "new hat" game they play with this shit.
>>10994104The entire point of Siege was being guys they could rework into the normal ones to sell later.
>>10994110None, Hasbro has fucked themselves bad trying to self fund all this shit and they are refusing to spend the needed money to make a good show.
>>10994111So what? You are going to say that wasn't true Devastator and your perfect version of Devastor has never been tried?
>>10993493one of these things is not like the others.
>>10993544She's a sweet little sister who is very smart (for a dinobot)
>>10993667they're never perfect, but tarantulas is DAMN close.
>>10993734>where we're going, we don't need elbowsdo the hollow arms not bother you at all? I think he'd need an actual hole in the barrel to be close to perfect.
>>10993803i adored this toy>>10993859or plastic card! i need to play around with plastic card more.
>>10994137>plastic cardhuh
>>10993856huh he has all that pink detail up on his shoulders, isn't that what everyone hated about the most recent one?
>>10993976they are amazing, but beast modes are usually slightly compromised, and there's lots of small easily broken parts...
>>10994028woof, those soundwave proportions... that tiny gun pod.. and on optimus, that tiny energon axe that clips on awkwardly.. that gappy abdomen..
>>10994051dammit, price. drop! I can't pay full price here but I waant him.
>>10994101indeed. thank god for those.
>>10994115i thought we were talking about the post-bay movieswhere they finally give people what they wanted, "g1 designs but covered in greebles"well you got it.. i guess they're not bad, but I don't love em. i liked the bay designs. mostly. some of them.
>>10994138styrene sheets. you can buy cheap cuttable plastic for model kits in sheets, cut them with a dremel or if you have super strength like some people, just a hobby knife.
>>10994142>soundwave proportionsThe photo elongated him for whatever reason; probably to match Optimus when in reality Soundwave is a significantly smaller deluxe. It's remarkable how different the actual toy looks. Both look better to me than their WFC trilogy counterparts. Especially Optimus.
>>10994150>have to measure and cut plastic and somehow weld them together>still have to come up with wheelsNo more... going home...
>>10993667Siege Sideswipe comes close. So does MP-10.
>>10994159they sell wheel kits! with axles and everything. you just have to glue on tabs, drill holes in them the size of the axles, poke them through and pop the wheels ondon't get me wrong, I wouldn't do it. but it beats cardboard.and if you want it hinged to open up, an easy cheat is glue on some lego hinges.
>>10994157better. now he's just got a huge chest and the rest of him is normal. if his head were bigger, it would remind me of Animated or like, Bruce Timm style.>>10994159They sell plastic cement that is meant to weld plastic, but the one time I tried it, it didn't work. superglue always works.
>>10994074>Best recent OptimusThe Siege/Earthrise Optimus versions annoy the fuck out of me so that's not the highest bar, but I ordered it. The Starscream/Bumblebee pack isn't nearly as enticing, but it's enough to make me interested in what the rest of the line looks like when it inevitably gets continued in Studio Series.
>>10994171Aren't these more parts/paint/plastic having than Studio Series? I don't think that will happen without cost-cutting or the remaining ones were not designed yet so they made to current standards.
>>10994166I... did not know thatI don't want to commit heresy on Lego but I've completely forgotten about wanting at least the back to open. This is beginning to sound like a lot of work.>>10994167>thing that's supposed to work doesn't work>DIY is easy they said
>>10994173>Aren't these more parts/paint/plastic having than Studio Series?They're definitely closer to 2010 than the average 2023/2024 figure, but where else would they put them? I figured the whole point of the "Gamer Edition" WFC downgrades was to keep the seat warm for Reactivate. The entire line being nothing but two-packs (or worse, just these four figures) doesn't seem likely to me. You might be right about the rest of the line being lesser compared to the two-packs, but I'd still like to see more of these designs.
>>10994028Optimus is pretty good except for his weapons, the axe being too small and the gun having such a short handle that he can barely hold it. Soundwave is only alright, as he's a bit small and lacks any kind of cassette friends.
>>10994178Being the same pattern of online retailer 2-packs that are more complex and higher price than the equivalent size-class seems to be working out fine so no reason to change.
>>10994180What would you even do with a Ravage or Laserbeak? He has no place to put them in.
>>10993667ROTF Leader Class Optimus Prime
Kind of glad I'm getting cutting down on getting transformsrs, looks like pricing is really goin to shit. Springer is essentially a big price hike for no reason, and 86 Bumblebee tells me they really aren't adhering to the core concepts of certain series now either. Not to mention the Missing Link ones being as expensive as they are for what they are. Suppose I'll stick to my Beast Wars guys.
>>10994186I'm not that attached to the cassette babies hanging around outside of the cassette player context since they tend to feel superfluous, but I think a good way to adapt them would be as alt-mode equipment. Have Laserbeak turn into a radar dish that sits on the truck or something. It's not the same, but I think that's a better alternative than the way the Fall of Cybertron voyager just has them turn into hockey pucks. In all my years with the WFC deluxe, I never felt like I was missing out and needed the voyager.
>>10994214Hasbro's really squeezing the last bit of blood from their consumer stone, as it were. They're getting extremely bold with their pricing and the value just isn't there.But as much as I agree with you, I still bought Missing Link, and he was worth every penny, personally. I didn't like the price, but I've saved a lot of money by tapping out of mainline stuff over the past few years because... bleh.
>>10994028>Did these suck ass or something?Do you have eyes? They're ugly as fuck. Plus, the mainline is already doing G1. Nobody wants to settle for designs that are halfway between G1 and Bayformers anymore. And if they do, that's what Bumblebee was for.>>10994027I really just hate all the awkward panel lines in terrible places. This shit would have been considered sacrilege 15 years ago, when the robots were actually supposed to be "in disguise"
>>10994013What is that Straxus? I genuinely like the look of him more than the one we got. (I don't know shit about the character and don't give a fuck)
>>10994242>What is that Straxus?>I don't know shit about the character and don't give a fuckUh, it's a different Straxus
>>10994242You're a fag with shit taste, it's idw straxus
>>10994233I can see the value in Missing Link Optimus but not BB and Cliffjumper
>>10994242Lowering the iron curtain was a mistake.
>>10994079>>10994242It's the design from the IDW reboot, which was recently revealed to have actually been a design meant for the cancelled Netflix Legacy sequel to WFC.
Soundwave's tapes are old molds.
>>10994248I'm happy it makes you seethe, then.>>10994251I like both of those more than the Marvel one, lmao. The "head on life support in the stomach" body is pretty sick.
>>10994251>Asymmetrical design that is made of parts of many different guysIt is like they never learn. Even Lockdown who got the closest still lacked the coloration differences in toy version.
>>10994255aw I like this little guy
>>10994257that does make you question though, is his spark kept in his head or...
>>10994255RIP to anyone that wanted a better G1 Ravage.
>>10994255So Buzzsaw and two other guys.
>>10994255So they are really dropping the ball with SS86 from here on out aren't they? At this point I'm certain 86 Megs will be a slight retool of the Earthrise mold.
>>10994239>They're ugly as fuck.I don't agree. Optimus could use less gray but otherwise I think both are some of the better looking toys those characters have had in recent years. Doubly so when acknowledging the alt modes.>halfway between G1 and BayformersI don't see much of Bayformers in these designs. Maybe with Bumblebee, slightly, but not the other three.>And if they do, that's what Bumblebee was for.A lot of the Bumblebee movie toys transform into Cybertronian shrugs, though, which is something these decidedly do not do.
>>10994281The "new" Soundwave is Legacy United, not 86.
>>10994249I'm ashamed to admit I will be buying at least one of them as well. I recognize they're overpriced as shit, but I'm pretty much in the twilight of my Transformers collecting and a handful of Missing Links seems like a good end-cap.
>>10994249It makes me wonder how absurd the Carbots will be. I had them pegged for around $50-60 given the standalone Optimus price, but if the minibots are $40 I'm not sure how the pricing makes sense. HasTak have become untethered from reality.
>>10994280I'm hoping Enemy is one of them and Sundor or something, the current Ravage mold sucks so I don't care for repaints of it as Howlback or Glit.
>>10993667United/RTS Jazz. Anything else after has sort of suffered.
>>10994289Oh, I suppose I can live with that then.
>>10994281From here on out>The ball was dropped like a year ago and rolled into the street to cause a 3 car pile upWe've BEEN getting SS86 "new" releases that are just Earthrise and other repaints with like zero new parts
Is the 40th Anniversary thing even worth going to the theater for?
>>10994362How much do you care seeing the old voice actors getting together for likely the last time? The 4 parter is being presented in it's 1984 Movie edit from Saturday September 14th 1985 so it's likely a half hour special with the VAs at the start/end. For the cartoon it's not really worth it imo because it's nothing special beyond being the start of the series.
>>10994362I'd say so back before when I thought it was the movie and I had already booked a ticket, now that I actually read about what I'm going to it's not as exciting as I was initially thinking.
>>10994369*1985 Movie edit
>>10994362If it's anything like the other specials the stuff will leak later online and I'm not sure seeing the first 4 episodes 84 cartoon is really worth it. If the did a best of collection like say Golden Lagoon, Auto-Bop, Triple Take over, and, Divide and Conquer I would have gotten a ticket day one. But More than Meets the Eye 1-4 is very slow because it's setting up the series and has a lot of wrinkles for it too. I guess if they had to do a multi-part "movie Ultimate Doom w/Countdown to Extinction would have been a much better choice.
>>10994369it is an incredible mercy from god in heaven that we still have frank welker and peter cullen to this day. it can't possibly go on much longer, we have to enjoy every minute
>>10994386I just hope whoever replaces them isn't just some cunt doing a shit impression.
>>10994388at this point if you really wanted to do an homage to the old days when someone's dead or too old, the right thing to do is a voice IN THE STYLE of that actor. something that evokes the same ideas, but isn't trying to be a perfect mimic. Kinda like when Funimation took over Dragon Ball dubbing (But NOT like when Pokemon switched dubbing companies, hoo lord)that said, Troy Baker's Hamill-Joker is so dead on and such an incredible voice that I don't give two fucks if it's unoriginal. If anything, he needs to go broader with it. and don't be afraid to throw a little of that borscht-belt stuff in there.
>>10994396>But NOT like when Pokemon switched dubbing companies, hoo lordDear god I had to stop watching the dub when that happened, still need to get around to starting it over subbed. It was like all the characters had suddenly developed brain problems.
>>10994400That is also a script issue.
>>10994400yep.in fairness though, the show had become just as braindead. and while i've heard it went through a few more changes, at no point did I feel like I was missing anything it's just>show up>meet NPC>find out what is special about their pokemon>get into shenanigans with the rockets (and apparently at one point they even cut that)>endway too on-rails. Nothing will ever be as magical as the first 3-5 episodes. It felt like aaanything could happen.
>>10994408The new one now has a brat voice by Ikue Otani.
>>10994414i was wondering how they'd keep her on the show given the new guy probably doesn't have a pikachuor does he
>>10994415There is a Pikachu but he isn't in every episode. Liko was a fucking mistake as a main character. She does that aimless anime girl thing.
>>10994396>do is a voice IN THE STYLE of that actor. An iconic example of this is Zapp Brannigan from Futurama where it was cast for Phil Hartman originally in March of 98 but after his tragic death a few months later the roll was placed on Billy West who stated he made the character a tribute to Phil in how he performed the character listening to recordings of the late Hartman to ready himself when playing Zapp.
>>10994423Billy West is a legitimate voice actor in his regard though. Hasbro tends to just pick non-union randos for shows they don't want to spend money on.
>>10994427The post made me think of it and I just wanted to share it.
>>10994396at this point if you really wanted to do an homage to the old days when someone's dead or too old, you can just plug all their performances into an AI
>>10994421unfortunate. but pokemon has really capped off the "why isn't success working" thing by being the largest entertainment franchise in history that acts like the smallest.>>10994423Oh yeah totally. he wasn't a carbon copy, he was a bit of Phil's Shatner and a bit of Phil's Heston. I'm forced to wonder if phil and maurice would have had the same chemistry had he not been murdled.
>>10994427that is the issue, yeahwe need to come up with something OTHER than a massive corrupt vampiric union system to weed through the literal billions who want to be voice actors and get to the few with talent, like me. or skill, like.. not-me. but I can learn.
>>10994444Just hire the same 6 good people repeatedly.
>>10994315Is it true there's a way to properly lock his chest in robot mode?
>>10994437it's sad for me that we still don't have Majel Barrett as the computer voice in new star treks. she WANTED her voice to be reproduced after she died, and recorded a soundbank of phonemes. but then we decided fuck all that, actually teaching a computer how phonemes work. Let's just brute force it listening to billions of lines of dialogue until it gets it right. and unfortunately we don't have a lot of that to feed it, for her, without the effect already on it.
>>10994396>the right thing to do is a voice IN THE STYLE of that actor. something that evokes the same ideas, but isn't trying to be a perfect mimic.They need to just give Gary Chalk a call already. He's got a great voice for Prime, and he's ten times the actor Cullen ever was.>>10994400>It was like all the characters had suddenly developed brain problems.Probably a symptom of them sticking more closely to the direct Japanese translations once 4kids got the boot.Speaking of dead actors and Pokemon, Meowth's already dead, and Jessie's VA has spine cancer. Pretty soon, James will be the only member of Team Rocket left.
>>10994476yeah chalk should get a lot more work. I heard him recently in that Monster Beach pilot, and was reminded how he's still got it but is tragically underutilized.for that matter, david kaye's optimus voice was pretty great.>translationsthis is something i've noticed really fucked up anime dubs recently (though I think anime is also getting worse)in the old days, they freely changed tons of shit, for cowardly purposes or because of disinterest or distaste, or for humor, whatever. And that was, on the whole, wrong. not what people are looking for when they buy a product. They wanna get that product, in a language they can understandbut they went WAY TOO FAR in the other direction. translations now are utterly dry, and they translate untranslateable things like honorifics instead of just trusting the audience to know what -chan means. Leading to incredibly awkward addresses like "Big sister (name)! it's you!"instead of translating the meaning of phrases, it's basically word for word now. AND scrubbed of swears. so everyone sounds super stodgy and dull at all times. Yes, britney spears references tossed into Those Who Hunt Elves haven't aged the best, but it made me laugh a lot more than any recent show.also yeah that's a tragedy, rachel lillis is not allowed to have cancer.
>>10994476Chalk is the worst, just total wooden delivery. Ruined He-Man.
>>10994459If they have her sounds recorded strange they can't use it. Vocaloid is rather old.
>>10994512i dont think they have the high quality original recordings of her just talking in the computer voice. the irony is that current AI voice models would have too much personality in it.
I expected Slipstream to be awful sonce it was using that garbage Windblade mold, but it's even worse than I expected. It looks like the only new parts are the head and guns, meaning those parts were always included in the mold and they had no intention of a retooled chest or plane mode parts.
>>10994526The other option was an Earthrise Starscream with a new head but the voyager slots were filled.
>>10994483>Oh snap waddup, Tommy McDonald?>Youse knows what Matt. Those Badster mooks stirring up trouble again. >Andele, ladies! We gotta bust those baddies.
>>10994531I do miss when they threw accents into anime too, though it's best if the character had one to begin with. which i don't think anime does as much anymore. it has become very... like, sanitized.
>the + version of MP Wheeljack has a secret third mode
>>10994526I was hoping Slipstream would wear the Windblade mold a little better but it looks like even less of a retool than the old Takara Legends, I expected almost nothing and I'm still disappointed. The new head sculpt doesn't even look good... guess I oughta start looking for the LG figure>>10994528If hastak were smart they'd make a dedicated voyager femseeker mold that they could then spam repaints of, waifufags and twitter weirdos alike would eat them up and they'd get some free internet brownie points for very very little effort.
I think I like Legacy Armada Starscream more than the Cybertron Starscream. I did not expect this.
>>10994544That works in the general sense, but not so much in the nostalgia remake line since people would want their Skwarps, Nova Storms, and Acid Storms to have dicks. New name new decos as a different option seems like they wouldn't push that well either.
>>10994545The power of contrarianism
>>10994095yes, yes I do.
>>10994567There ARE actually a few more femseekers in some of the newer shows(that I can't be bothered to watch), so I'd imagine something like a dedicated female seeker mold would just be treated like futureproofing for when they wanna bring those characters into generations, and THEN they could move onto wackier things like OCs or r63 versions of the original seekers. And I wouldn't discount totally new seekers considering they made those unreleased G2 coneheads and a Redwing of all characters. Granted those *technically* existed before, but they're so obscure they might as well be all-new. OC seekers definitely have more appeal than the "Infernac Universe" guys(I still kinda like the rocks though)I just think a new mold that they can sell a bajillion repaints if they want would have made more money AND more people happy than just slapping a new head on Windblade and calling it a day. Every new mold needs to be made with some considerations to repaint potential nowadays, and NOTHING is more repaintable than a seeker
>>10994573The power of a better alt mode and not having to worry about shoulder chunks falling off while transforming it.
>>10994581boy the more i look at this toy, the less i like iti still want it, but i'm definitely waiting for the price to come down... this is not even an 18 dollar toy.
>>10994545I just opened my Cybertron Starscream after letting him sit in the box for 2 full months. He is absolutely mid as fuck. Massively overrated. His proportions are actually atrocious, screen accurate or not idc. I think an anon put it best a few threads back; his upper and lower halves look like two completely different figures slapped together.
>>10994585>t shoulder chunks falling off while transforming it.Really? That sucks. I was looking forward to a Sunstorm repaint.
>>10994611I don't love the proportions but I get the appeal. I just don't find it satisfying as a Transformer. The flip out swords being retained are nice, but the alt mode isn't that good (never was) and the giant shoulder bits are a hassle. There are nice quality touches to the articulation but it just doesn't click for me. I feel similar about Armada Megatron, though I think that toy is worse. Even in the best case scenario (which I think Legacy Cyberscream is an example of) a lot of these updates lose more than they gain. I'm getting burned out on them.
>>10994613They just plug in. They're secure in a general sense, but when you're rotating them around to pose or transform it it's pretty easy to swivel them right out or bump them into a position you don't want. They're just on basic pegs so it would be easy enough to make them tighter, but tightness isn't really the issue. It's not a dealbreaker at all, but it is annoying and makes things less smooth.
>>10994611some people just deliberately choose to be unpleasable.
>>10994590one thing you can't tell from pictures is that this guy feels excellent. all the joints and transformation points have just the right level of resistance to be easy to move and feel sturdy and solid. also he can do a handstand, so work that into your calculus wherever it's appropriate.
>>10994583The only difference between the ones in Cyberverse are the heads, so you wouldn't have a "female seeker" mold. Of course that was a moot point because most the toys were just recolors of Starscream instead of how the others actually looked in the show. Meanwhile Earthspark is still running, so they aren't going to make their Nova Storm and Skywarp in Generations' current iteration.
>>10994640alright fair...what's ironic is I would actually pay a little more if I knew there was a dedicated and satisfying third party kit for his tail
>>10994310>the current Ravage mold sucks so I don't care for repaints of it as Howlback or Glit.We got a decent Howlback from the MP Ravage mold recently. Too bad the Soundwave she was saddled with turned out to be utter shit.
How do you guys group your overpriced robots in displays? Continuity? Chronology? Size? Theme?
>>10994678Generally Autobots and Decepticons are with their own faction. No real pattern beyond that.
>>10994661You don't know what a shit toy is if you think that's one of them.
>>10992437I want Banzai-Tron & Bludgeon but I don't know if they're worth.
>>10994689Get on clearance
>>10994633Haha, hardly. In fact Im usually the anon around here who is always loving underrated stuff and I appreciate almost all my bots. This figure is just really rubbing me the wrong way. His legs are simply too long and they look awkward in every pose, like Earthrise Prime. >>10994678I create factions for them based on if I got them below / at / above msrp
>>10994661yeah i seriously want just that ravage
>>10994678top shelf - movie guys and some transmetal 2s that i felt shouldn't be in a boxnext two shelves - predacons and maximals
>tfw the mystery 4th comic leader figure is Hot Rod >tfw no one thought they could have the audacity to sell a deluxe as a leader
>>10994711I can believe it in general, but wonder why that wasn't shuffled into the standard retail line like the low supply exclusives from Walmart.
>>10994711Hot Rod doesn't have red on him in the comics, and his hands aren't yellow.
>>10992437Super7 are terrible and Ultimates are even worse than Red.
>>10994711hotrod wasn't those colors in the comics, only rodimus wasit's possible the shock was because they're selling him without his trailerbut more likely, it's a flame/xaaron 2 packit'd be really strange for them to get his hand the wrong color when the entire point of this series is extreme comic paintjobsIt could also be a blaster/scrounge 2 pack, and the reaction might just have been about scrounge
>>10994718Hot Rod can ride a horse?
>>10992437i'm fucking tempted to get gator prime
>>10994685It is undeniably a shit mold
>>10994718Rodimus, not hotrodThough he’s missing the pipes, which I’m inclined to believe they removed for this demonstration
>>10994729ooh he's on sale for 27 bucks on mercari.. buuut he's a little small. and I'd kinda want to customize him into something else. Wonder if I could get his gun mounted on his back with a little drilling... make my ass another not-really-a-zoid to go with the beastboxen.
>>10994744An't he a coomander?
>>10994721Hot Rodimus
>>10994692>I create factions for them based on if I got them below / at / above msrpthat is hilarious>the Knights of St Clearance
>>10994774>The Expensables
>>10994794>The Liquidationists
>>10994711Its not its a voyager flame and Xaaron two pack
>>10994685Dude. The plastic feels cheap in-hand. The robot mode is compromised in multiple ways just to make sure the alt mode can accommodate the human riders (no ankles, no waist rotation, no wrists, his entire back is hollow and filled with panels, etc). The thing requires partsforming to transform, he has difficulty standing in anything other than a neutral pose because A) again, no ankles and B) his feet are chairs, so he's balancing on high-heeled stilettos all the time. Oh, and since he's designed around fitting the two shitty whoever-the-fucks as drivers (in both modes - they can ride in his hollow back cage in robot mode as well), he really doesn't scale with any other Transformers figures at all.Don't go telling ME I don't know what a shit toy is when you clearly have no idea what it is you're defending - I regretted buying him the moment I transformed him the first time, and he's pretty much the first and only instance of buyer's remorse I've ever felt. Honestly, Howlback was literally the only part of the whole damn set that was worth owning, and that's because she's just Masterpiece Ravage.
>>10994453I never noticed or had this issue.
>>10994760Sans trailer I think
Between Ion Storm and Bitstream, who gets to be "the other other blue guy"?
>>10994878Bluestreak
>>10993852>whatHe's saying you're not gonna get a trailer on a deluxe figure. Earthrise Optimus was a Voyager figure at leader price due to the trailer.
>friend runs hobby store in Asia>Months ago ordered a fair amount of Pirate Leader Thundertrons more than usual subline leaders as Hasbro told them it was "Takara Thundertron">Thinks its Go Prime>Show him leaked photo>Visible annoyance in eyes
>>10994886mercari and yahoo JP are lousy with Go Prime if you're trying to secure one
lol, what a surprisebut i suspect the next show will be just as gay
>>10993757I found a Metal Hook for $44 on aliexpress. Didn’t look for the other one.
>>10994902kek, never expected that he will reply to my bait.
Chudbros... our response?
>>10994966it flopped because the show was shit and the toyline was shitculture war nonsense is only a tiny factor, it still would've been shit if it was anti-woke or whatever
>>10994966I can never take "chud" seriously because they think it's some great insult but all I can ever think of is the basedjak weirdos
>>10993667Maybe I'm crazy but Battletrap and Skytread are the best combiners ever for packing so much playability into deluxe-sized toys
>>10994979I still have no idea what chud is supposed to mean
>>10994990what do you not understand about it
>>10994978What the fuck was hasbro thinking when they said "yeah kids want to see generic millennialslopified Optimus and Bee for 3 years and new characters that look like background characters for Robots (2005) and don't look like they can transform so all their toys look like crap?"Why did they absolutely botch the episode release schedule so there's 0 momentum in discourse?Hire Masakatsu Saito again you fucks, not deviantart artists.
>>10994990cannibalistic humanoid underground dwellers
>talking with buddy about Missing Link Prime>he asks if there's really diecast>say yeah, any spot there was on the original, Missing Link does uses it>grab my G1 Prime off the shelf>notice for the first time the thighs have gaps in them>the Legacy toy having gap thighs is more accurate than Missing Link which filled them inHuh
>>10993433>When Beast Wars keeps getting ignored for more G1
>>10994990Chad + Stud
>>10994989Glad they took different approaches with both of them. As much as I love Battletrap, there were a bunch of compromises it made to accommodate the separate bots. Roadtrap especially is a nightmare to get panels lined up.
>>10994100Aliexpress
>>10994476>Jessie's VA has spine cancerOh fuck really? I thought she did such a great job voicing Misty and Jessie, man that's a shame.
>>10994966They broke him so much with sending him gore shit that he develped full Stckoholm syndrome.
>>10994545Visually I way prefer Armada but Cybertron is just a better figure.
>>10994978Culture War thing was nothing outside of like a week of the same tired old man YouTubers who don't care about the franchise at all mad about 'PRONOUNS?>!!?!??!' I watched the show a bit but there was just a lot of stuff that didn't gel with me. I thought it was cool the characters they had. Like I never expected Tarantulas to show up for one. I just think the music really didn't match the mood of the show and it was really offputting. It was like ambient so a lot of times if someone was doing something cool and 'epic', it just felt like some sort of royalty free shit that didn't get my hyped up for whatever was happening. I thought the designs were a nice breath of fresh air compared to what others thought, but there was a lot that wasn't really done that well and it was hard to keep watching.I felt like there was a lot of cool lore that just never really amounted to anything.
What manner of mental illness is this?
>>10994966where was this posted?
>>10995058Transfandom Punisher Logo bumper sticker tier.
>>10995027I'm more of a Stad myself.
>>10994453I only have the Stepper/Ricochet version, and his chest locks. It's not a super firm "click", but it always stays in place unless I move it.Had a similar issue when I bought RTS Perceptor and everyone said the shoulders don't lock in, but they do. I've come to the conclusion that people are just retarded.
>>10995043Yeah, I heard the other day. There was a gofundme link or something rolling around on twitter. She's only 45 and she's living in a nursing home right now. I actually don't know what her long term prospects are, so maybe it's treatable? Spine cancer just sounds like a whole pile of NOPE, though.>>10995063derp, forgot pic. I paid enough money for this guy, may as well show him off.
>>10995065Went out of my way to get that Ricochet, I'm cool with Jazz having no door wings but Ricochet needs them and I don't see Hasbro doing anything other than rerelease the SS86 mold just redecoed as him.
>>10994989I regret never getting Skytread. Battletrap is weird but fun.
>>10995068>I'm cool with Jazz having no door wings but Ricochet needs themYeah, basically the same reason I caved and bought him. You can pretty much predict all the marks Hasbro is going to miss, lately.
>>10994966They completely redesigned the kids for season 2 specifically because the first designs were terribly ugly.It's a bad show with bad designs and a BIZARRE plot about nationalism vs immigrants.
>>10994966holy fuck>>10995059looks like youtube>>10995146>BIZARRE plot aboutfr?
>>10995058Literally one of my favorite channels on YouTube, he’s like a nice dad and that’s really cool
>>10994966A lot of shows get cancelled after 2 or 3 seasons these days because that's generally when they stop being profitable, regardless of how bad they suck.
>>10995176incorrecta lot of shows that are straight to streaming are greenlit for 2 seasons no matter what, so they're "cancelled" after 2 but the decision is usually made before season 2 startsFor an animated show, 3 seasons is a success, 4 is a triumph, and anything above that is phenominal
>>10993245
>>10995177Right, that's what I said. Thanks for agreeing.
What are some “obsolete” figures that aren’t obsolete. Good answers only
>>10995188Most of them. Obsolescence is made up as the toy itself does not change over time and it doesn't suffer the same levels of damage something like an appliance would have from many years of constant use.
>>10995189>good answers only Thanks for playing
>>10995188Classics Grimlock and Megatron, Universe Galvatron, Dinobot and Hot Shot, Generations Blitzwing, the entirety of Combiner Wars, Siege Ultra Magnus,
>>10995188basically everything from 2006-2011 Archer era is still good and better than most of the slop that comes out now.
>>10994657>what's ironic is I would actually pay a little more if I knew there was a dedicated and satisfying third party kit for his tailI don't mind the tail so much (but mostly because I prefer the beast mode of the original toy, so I just leave the Legacy one in bot mode all the time), but I would definitely dig if DNA design did an upgrade kit that made and extendible tail, bigger wings (the can also swivel up to go over his shoulders in bot mode), and a more show-accurate wolf head. Not sure all of those are feasible, but an anon can dream.
>>10995203Good answers only.
>>10995182nope, that's the opposite of what you said
>>10995189>Most of them.This. Most toys, especially those from the "classics" era, do something interesting or have some degree of appeal beyond just their accuracy and articulation, so they never really become "obsolete". Unless you're a tastelet, that is.
>>10995188All of Cybertron. You'll never get solid toys like that again, except for the $180 online premium Deathsaurus which both pleasantly and depressingly reminded me of a $50 leader class from 2005
>>10995063Scrolling through tfw threads about any TF with an even slightly complicated transformation will show you how truly retarded most people are
>>10995246Oh I'm sorry. $40.
>>10995188I'll follow up the praise for Cybertron and Classics-era toys, and throw an additional category in- non-combining figures of characters who normally combine. Maybe it's because I got majorly soured on combiners, but I've found myself liking the designs/characters of the individuals a lot more than the gestalt forms. In this pic, Swindle and Blades are both great redecos of really fun molds, and Onslaught is genuinely a fantastic figure. None of them feel worse for not being combiner components.
>>10994966I still don't understand why do people have to bring culture/politics wars into this. I just think the show was ugly as hell and didn't have any good toys, so it was bound to fail.
>>10995252>Scrolling through tfw threads about any TF with an even slightly complicated transformationOr just "scrolling through tfw threads". I complain about this place sometimes, but at least it can be tolerated, more often than not, mostly because you can just call someone a faggot and move on. But TFW has all these rules that result in passive-aggressive posturing and dick-measuring that I absolutely cannot stand.>>10995276>I just think the show was ugly as hell and didn't have any good toysThis, basically. Some of the fight scenes I saw were cool, but the parts in between weren't good enough to keep me interested. A lot of the dialogue was just weird, too, like a whole generation of modern writers were raised on such quippy, Whedonesque trash that they think that's just how ALL dialogue should sound. I'm staunchly anti-AI, but honestly I can't imagine AI scripts being much worse than some of the crap we get.
>>10995188I still like Universe Cyclonus and Hound a lot. DOTM Megatron is leagues better than the SS version, also, I think.
>>10995284The absolute worst thing about TFW is if you post any opinions of any kind, someone WILL butt in and contradict you even if their argument makes little to no sense at all. Theres an large handful on there that just need to autistically converse about TFs all day and then some of them are also very angry and depressed. Its honestly gross and depressing and anger inducing if you spend too much time on there. Its also getting alot slower.
>>10995284I'm still bothered by how I just can't tell what any of the Earthspark OCs are meant to transform into.This has been a long-running problem with a lot of TF reinventions in general for me (first run of IDW and Prime for example) - I'm not asking for all of them to have a crane for a dick or something, but I just find it annoying when the robot mode is incredibly generic and magically transforms into something in the same colors as the robot. I'm not even joking when I say Rescue Bots was the single best example of how to pull it off, because all the designs had clear altmode parts in robot modes, so it puzzles me why a cartoon like Earthspark just completely dropped the ball whereas one meant for much smaller children pulled it off great.
>>10994111Nah, the new arms help a lot and the leg bots are decent too, the set is far from being perfect but still ok for a mainline release.
>>10995246That whole online exclusive thing is bullshit in general, it just means "never available in countries like Poland unless you're willing to pay 3X the - already steep - price". They should do stuff like that for exclusive repaints, not major characters that only ever had 1-2 toys, like Deathsaurus or Straxus.
>>10995188The Generations WFC deluxes are an obvious choice given how limp the Gamer Editions have been. I'm still pretty fond of that Soundwave and Bumblebee in particular; pic related.I also think the ROTF leader and Battle Blades voyager might still be the best movie Optimus toys. I have SS-05 and it's okay, but the backpack not securing is annoying, parts of the transformation are finicky, the arms like to undress themselves. I hear SS-32/44 are a touch better, but they looked too similar to tempt me at the time. It just makes me wish I had the old movie toys instead.
>>10994110Unjokingly? A show made by the Pacific Rim: the Black guys. Another anime would be cool, but from what I recall, Prime killed any hopes of that (so much so that Go had to be distributed via TV-kun rather than aired). I genuinely wouldn't mind an anime adaptation of that cute manga that's currently serialized (picrel), either.
>>10995292>if you post any opinions of any kind, someone WILL butt in and contradict you even if their argument makes little to no sense at all.That happens here, too, albeit with much less frequency. But yeah, some people just feel the need to always throw their two cents in. Like they see someone happy and enjoying a toy that they don't, and they take it as some kind of personal attack.Unrelated to Transformers, but one time I posted on r*ddit about how I enjoyed playing FFXV and getting the royal edition with all DLC for like 15 bucks on sale, and some fuming retard went on a diatribe about how I actually had an inferior experience and should feel bad just because I didn't pay full price for everything at launch. We're out here sharing oxygen with some real fucking heathens, I tell ya what.
>>10995307>Playing Final Fantasy
>>10995297Not looking like they turn into anything identifiable is a usual issue for show-first designs.
>>10995307>posting on r*dditGood to have you crawling back here, you whore
>>10995318Well I got banned from reddit for saying Nancy Pelosi should be hanged, so I didn't really have much of a choice.
>>10995305Only because they tried to adapt American kino into a children's animehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixPB__lnePIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjNj-Q9-Q64
>>10995326>Falls on its face trying to replicate the success of the past
>>10995292Maybe we aren't so different
>>10995322Okay I was just teasing you, I was not expecting this sort of responseW-welcome back
>>10995326What the fuck. Airachnid scanned a completely different looking helicopter for her altmode.
>>10995326WTF I love Airachnid even more
>>10995304>Battle Blades voyagerGoing back and looking at it just further cemented this even more than I first believed. I'd remembered the bulkiness of the Battle Blades mold being worse than it is. The SS versions are a downgrade in all kinds of ways and I think even less of them now. Even ignoring the faux parts, why did they fuck with the transformation scheme so much? Why not have the legs form out of the front of the truck like they had before? Even the legends/Cyberverse movie Optimus toys did that because it was obvious.
Why is it so difficult for Transformers to release a complete line of toys with the same scale and continuity at one time? There's nothing to buy but one offs from different lines.
>>10995358>toyline called transformers generations>has transformers from several generations
>>10995361That makes no sense and it's not called generations. Why would I wat to buy one of them that doesn't match the scale or continuity of another?
>>10995358Blame the zoomers who wanted to be pandered to>These are just updates of G1 toys that were bricks! Why don't you update the super posable toys I grew up with instead!?>what the fuck Hasblow, this new toy of my super posable character barely is any different!
>>10994966Dr Lockdown is a fucking legit retardThat guy is a far left britbong and has had fucking meltdowns over people not liking his dogshit ass "reviews"He's legit a grifter and just joins random discords and reddits to shill his youtube and spout the worst opinions
>>10995364That's unfortunate. I bet if you sat down and watched G1 with a zoomer or alpha you would win them over to how good the show used to be compared to whatever slop they have now.
>>10995358>>10995363If you come in to Transformers expecting to find scale, you're gonna have a bad time
>>10995374I watched episodes of the G1 cartoon with my little sister and she was making fun of it.
>>10995375>If you come in to Transformers expecting to find scale, you're gonna have a bad timeIt's not hard to find scale, actually. You just have to be okay with mixing and matching characters across toylines. I buy whatever I like, but when I make squads, I tend to do it based on alt mode scale. It's pretty fun, and it's led me to buying some pretty interesting bots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwNATCv77Lg&list=PLim3m5NnkYFdUd2X2GZRPvvVGfN-vB-Qu&index=3&t=123s>SNEED AAAAAAAAA SNEEEEEEEEEEDWhat did Steve Jablonsky mean by this?
Anyone wants to help with my shitty student survey? I only need 13 answers to be free from this shitshow to pass one subject.https://forms.gle/j8TUPrDnCvW2BDHGA
>>10995413You are lucky I've got nothing better to do than your off-topic homework Ivan Stalinski.
>>10995391Who's that blue Jetfire? Or is that an actual Macross Valkyrie with a Super Pack?
>>10995358Isn't that what Studio Series is? Granted starting with the Bumblebee movie and then SS86 it became fractured into sub-lines, and maybe that's what your issue is. I miss Studio Series being a predominately Bayverse line, even if they weren't all winners (>>10995352).
>>10995434I'm much happier with it this way. This way we get designs of toys we wouldn't get otherwise, and we have to see less Bayshit clogging the shelves.
>>10995444It wouldn't bother me so much if SS86 didn't feel so similar to what Siege/ER/Kingdom were doing. The Gaymur Edition sub-line seemed like a refreshing change of pace and a good fit when it was announced but then the toys turned out to be shit. Legacy is a mixed bag with some solid stuff but it's far from cohesive. There's some stuff I'd still like from BBM but that's mostly been tapped.At least we have a flood of TF1 stuff to look forward to, assuming the toys don't blow.
>>10995420Universe Tread Bolt
>>10995444We just got Springer, Jazz, Arcee, and so on.
>>10995414Thanks
>>10994902i mean, nobody has yet figured out why this is going on, so it's not going to just stopcompanies can either go back to loving money, or they can stop existing.
>>10994966I love how these people only call things 'corporate' if they don't like themnevermind literally everything is either a corporation or government. there's no other things to be.
>>10995375>>10995391Scale is something that up until very recently the toys didn't want to commit to due to rigid price point and character restrictions. It took until a decade into the Masterpiece line for them to go "you know, maybe Optimus SHOULDN'T be twice the size of Starscream", and the movies toys didn't even attempt such a thing until Studio Series (again, a decade after the line started). That Generations took until Siege/Earthrise/Kingdom to get the main nostalgia line in on that action (again, 2018) emphasizes how recent this is. For alt mode scale, well, shit out of luck, such as how earlier in these threads anon pointed out Bumblebee's beetle mode is actually a bigger car than Wheeljack's Lancia Stratos one but nobody ever thinks of it as such.
>>10995001which is weird because.. isn't 'people in new york sewers are garbage' kind of a rightish viewpoint?>>10995043technically she has titty cancer, it SPREAD to her spine.I really miss when she and eric stuart and veronica taylor were in anime dubs, they did fantastically.
The Transformers equivalent of Teen Titans Go or Thundercats Roar so I can sit back and watch the high octane sperging.
>>10995169aw i looked it up, he is indeed a nice dadi did snicker at when he and the boy went to "Causeacon" which I thought was "Caucasiacon" because hang on howcome we don't get to have one of those
>>10995485
>>10995146did they seriouslyhow can anyone in california say that. they have to wade through piles of them to get to work.i liked when We Bare Bears decided to shit in the punchbowl after a pretty decent series, ending it with a garbagey message like that, but it also shot itself in the foot because the bears actually ARE a destructive nuisance whom you would not want to allow into your country.
>>10995179jesus. that thing must get.. inches per gallon.
>>10995001Lol
>>10995206i want bigger wings too but in fairness they were pretty small on the show..the wings should be able to flip up over the shoulders but the only way I could see that being possible is if they had a shoulder hinge and an elbow flap. you'd hinge up, then flap forward. having the ENTIRE wings flip up would be dumb, that's not how it worked in the show.
>>10995284whedon dialogue is funny and it will always be funny.
>>10995483Nah, a working class revolt that eat upon the beautiful people was commie libroid propaganda.
>>10995358think about itthere's a dozen subfactions who all want toys from THEIR favorite showdo you make each of them wait in line, while we get a whole line of beast wars, a whole line of prime, a whole line of animated, etc?no, you mix it up, so everyone has at least one or two things they want from each wave.my current wishlist goes SIlverbolt, Magmatron, and Tangrantulas.
>>10995374please stop using words nobody used prior to 5 years ago.
>>10995499>>>/tvtropes/
>>10995505That's unfortunate. I bet if you sat down and watched G1 with the children of millennials you would win them over to how good the show used to be compared to whatever trash they have now.
>>10995413I helped you out, my droog.
>>10995500wait, so the movie CHUD was actually on the side of the CHUDs?Either way, that's still the wrong ones in that story to compare us to.
>>10995514Everyone is chuds and the ones that pretend otherwise simply pretend they aren't to be controversial.
>>10995506before they started getting all sanitized? absolutely. t'was good shit.>>10995510I will grudgingly accept this revision, and appreciate it, but I still hate that term too. and how it keeps changing but i'm the only one who remembers the past.
>>10995516If you were alive then, you would complain about the term Gen Xers.
>>10995322based
>>10995322moshi moshi?
>>10994993being willfully dense
>>10995496that's literally what it means
>>10995391*Finding* scale is one thing, *expecting* scale is another
>>10995450The script seems to have been lost that SS86 was very just a splinter off Kingdom when it started that Hasbro just decided to run with
>>10995485Botbots already exists
>>10995534Not nearly fast enough.
>>10995518honestly it was always a bit "executives came up with this so they could target us as a demographic" but... compared to modern issues, that's downright refreshing.i'm apparently right on the cusp. but i'm also fine just saying '90s kids'
>>10995502I don't care about the other shows, they are all trash.
>>10995505stfu zoomer
I bought scraphook today, he's amazing! Probably the best figure since the sideswipe mould
>>10995553The torso feels like leftover parts when you put him on your other robots.
>>10995556That's fair, but I just enjoy him as a figure in his own right, the transformation is great
I noticed Trashmaster quietly dried up from retail.
>>10995568He's last year's product, so he should be going away by now.
>CHAD Warden comes back>Wokespark immediately gets cancelledFucking based
>>10995580Based on lead time, he was probably screwing up in Power Rangers by basing them on guidebook stats instead of how big they were on the show when they decided to not make a third season.
>>10995578Tell that to all the Junkheaps, Blitzwings, Sludges and Armada Starscreams I still see.
>>10995480There isn't much to be done about alt mode scale unfortunately. That isn't to say they CANT scale, TheLazyEyebrow is a huge vehicle nut and actually does measurements and will put alt modes next to others of similar scale, but y'know
>>10995598i would actually find it a lot more interesting if the altmodes were relatively in scale on combiners.. that way the big vehicles can only combine with other big vehicles, smalls with other smalls, it puts a limitation on it and that's enjoyable. you'd have to struggle to find other things in the same rough size as a shuttle, or else the bigger parts could become more of the body, instead of rigidly sitting at 'four limbs one torso'
>>10995358Did you miss 5 years of studio series or something?
>>109956325 years of Studio Series has missed giving me more AoE Dinobots
>>10995635True. I also want that AoE Optimus that was listed years ago
>>10995635i would kill for some new dinobots that don't fuck up the limbs or dumb everything down for babies
>>10995322I really hope you're trolling, because I don't wanna associate this sort of schizoid rambling-tier sentiment with an anon whose photos I enjoyed. please say you're just trolling anon
>>10995643It isn't schizophrenia, just someone closer to the true meaning of the universe.
>>10995643I mean I can agree with that sentiment.. but I did have to look up who that is. yeah, hang for treason, that sounds about right.
Are the Earthspark toys as bad as they look?
>>10995673YesMost are just Cyberverse rereleases and remolds
>>10995512Thanks a lot, now I need only 8 and I'm done.
>Warden back>"Interestingly it’s also said that work on a new TF series is already underway."Oh boy, can't wait for it to be another joyless, edgy G1 circlejerk like the shitty Netflix shows.
>>10995717Why do you people say that. Didn't we just have Earthspark with a whole bunch of new characters? All that shelfwarmed?
>>10995673the owl looks okay.>>10995682harsh requirements..>>10995717can't we get a beast wars circlejerk? just redo beast machines and this time.. don't.. do beast machines.
>>10995722having new characters where the focus on them is how new they are (having just been born) is still g1 circlejerking.
>>10995723didn't we just have a Beast Wars movie? how well did that do.
>>10995727how the hell is that G1 circlejerking if its all new characters?How different do you want things to be? maybe you should get out of Transformers and find a different property if you need THAT much of a difference.
Be careful when ordering from Amazon. Just got my Siege Springer and they just threw a label on him and that's it. No box, nothing.
>>10995732no. we had another X-men '97 where "we set it in the 90s but don't worry we made sure to inject modern politics in every second" in-name-only piece of shit attempt at pulling in people my ageit's not gonna happen, you fucks. we didn't fall for 'totally radical' and we're not falling for this. our high standards are the reason you stopped trying to appeal to us in the first place.
>>10995734it's not all new characters. it's G1 plus a few new characters, whose focus is on how new and special they are.i'm just tired of g1 being reimagined. make something new. then you can reimagine THAT over and over.i swear executives only know 'harvest' they don't know 'plant'
>>10995723What can I say, my lecturer wanted 100.>>10992380Can next thread be :TFW went full schizo mode?Thread about Midspark being cancelled is PEAK comedy. /tfg/ is the most normal TF site outside Asian part of Twitter.
>>10995741because everything they "plant" nobody buys. They say "shit people keep buying Bumblebee and Optimus and Soundwave and not Nightshade or whatever his name is." so what do you think they're gonna go with.
>>10995742that sounds like a bad idea to base a thread around, especially since i have no idea what you just said
>>10995745of course that's all people buythat's all they ever make. you can't watch what doesn't exist.
>>10995749And you DID watch Earthrise and buy the toys right?or did you skip all that because none of it was good enough and will now bitch that Hasbro isn't making what you want.
>>10995750why would i reward them for making something specifically aimed at pissing me off
>>10995754and so Hasbro will go back to G1, because that's what's bringing them the money.and you'll bitch about it nonstop in every thread
>>10995717We literally just had the opposite of that and it bombed entirely and barely got 2 seasons lmaoFuck off Nostalgiafag
>>10995757I rewarded Hasbro for making something I like by pre-ordering the entire Kingdom beast lineand every single one of those except Rattrap was a mistake because better versions came out later.and they are barely making beast guys anymore, so... i did my part.
>>10995746Check Earthspark news thread there. Pretty funny to read. Wine mom with bad tastes, delusional people, weird projectionists people. Full circus.
>>10995757Earthspank -is- more G1 shit.
>>10995760that, you can complain about.
>>10995763>we want new characters>here's new characters>naw that's no good enough. A whole new fucking universe needs to be invented for them.>Well, we tried dipping our toes out of the usual and nobody liked it. Stay in the box boys
>>10995762well you have confirmed that I do not wish to base a thread on this.
>>10995768Fair point, have a good day
>>10995766every g1 rehash has one or two new characters that are the gimmick of the show. that doesn't count. a better example would be guys like Bulkhead and Knockout, those are original.hell even the anime shows got redubbed so they're the g1 guys again. they can't let us have anything new.
>>10995673Of the deluxes Bumblebee and Grimlock are the bestTwitch, Nightshade, and Optimus are okayMegatron could be a lot betterAnd Shockwave just isn't fun
>>10995738You haven’t seen xmen 97There is none of that shit
>>10995770>new characters don't count as new characters because they just don't
>>10995770Bulkhead and Knockout existed in a world with Optimus, Megatron, Starscream and Bumblebee. They just put effort into making those incarnations distinct from previous ones.
>>10995774anon it's literally a thread on /co/ right now.>>10995775one or two used as a gimmick does not counteract 'this is g1 rehashing again'i want minimal g1 recycles.
>>10995776and that's profoundly rare, and still not enough.but if that's all they're willing to do, at least do it more.
toys
>>10995778Of course not. Enjoy getting recycled Cyberverse toys.
>>10995780which one was cyberverse again
>>10995777there was more than two new guysand your whole problem is that there are versions of Optimus and Megatron and etc running around even though EVERY incarnation has SOME version of those guys UT, Bayverse, Animated, Cyberverse.The only exception is Beast Wars and you'd probably bitch that doesn't count because it's a continuation of G1.You want a whole brand new franchise with no connection to its history so you can feel it belongs to you. Why are you even into Transformers?
>>10995364Don't be obtuse, when this is also the same reality where G1 had also gotten several modern updates DURING the time of these modern shows/comics/etc getting their firsts. If you can't settle for toys of that time, why are we suddenly the unreasonable ones? Stop looking for excuses to create wars between imagined generational lines, you're the one distancing yourself from everyone else, not the other way around.More to the point, you really think every non-G1 toy was a smash hit? Most Beast Wars figs strongly lacked in screen accuracy and sometimes critical posability, ntm the flaking chrome and GPS. Armada and much of Energon were just as brick-y as G1. Energon, Cybertron, and even Animated n Bay also had more than their share stinkers, despite also having others that still hold up today: for every TFA Prowl, we also got a TFA Ratchet who literally didn't have elbows. Rescue Bots never once had regular toys until today. Once we get to RiD15 and Cyberverse, sure maybe the rare Deluxe was okay, but so many of the toys were completely butchered thanks to obscene budget cuts - just a bunch of plastic waste I wouldn't even give to a toddler.We're talking about main characters in all of these shows, here. Not some 87-92 nobody who probably never even appeared in Sunbow/Marvel or even Dreamwave or IDW who you only want to buy because of your "must complete muh teams" collection autism.And don't even get me started on how shafted GoBots fans are.
>>10995782well i didn't watch earthspank. on account of it sucks.were there any cool new characters you liked?i'm okay with having 'a convoy' and 'a megatron/galvatron' but can't we largely leave it at that? recycle archetypes if you want, but make them new guys.I just want it because we've seen they can do that. the transformers concept is not these few recognizable guys, it's much more than that. it can work for infinite new casts.
>>10995781The ones that were slightly tweaked stock art.
>>10995789oh one of those cheapass netflix shows like war for cybertron?fuck those. those don't exist. those are the walgreens of transformers shows.
New thread?
>>10995792Why bother? There are still images available and /toy/ is a slow board.
>>10995792new thread on page 9 or 10, or at image limit.we're pretty close to image limit, maybe post some pics
>>10995798
>>10995799
>>10995798>>10995799>>10995801I miss those days...
>>10995811They still do the make a robot model and vehicle model and switch between them to resemble a transformation
>>10995811right? it's kinda crazy how stimultaneously dumb and brilliant they are. and they were totally making it up as they went along, there was no status quo for producing a show like this.
an interesting interpretation..
here's a fun comparison. I never realized before the original had a leopard-print bra because the toy had those dimples in the pecs. had that toy, never made that connection.
>>10995784I didn't watch it either, but I really don't have a need for "new characters"
>>10995824i mean that's fine.. at least each rehash is unique, it's not literally the same thing over and over.
>>10995819It is based more on the boxart specifically.
>>10995814You're probably under 30 and wouldn't understand.
>>10995829I'm exactly 30.
>>10995827sorry I was unclearI meant that's where the boxart got the idea from
>>10995831yeah you didn't live through the golden years
>>10995834Beast Wars? More like the dark ages.
>>10995834CG ages like milk since the technology grows quickly. The G1 movie still looks cool.
>>10995791No. It was a primary show for kids, it was aired on TV and also youtube because it was produced cheap.It's actually pretty alright, though I'd only recommend watching S3-4 and then going back to S2 and maybe S1 if you enjoyed it.
>>10995841sounds dumb. i forget, why were we discussing it?
I'm glad the era of cool box art has not died
>>10995838Good CGI doesn't age. The Bay TF movies look better than nearly all of Hollywood from the past 10 years. The original 1982 TRON has probably 5 minutes total of CGI, yet it still looks cool as shit because it leaned into the aesthetic.Beast Wars had a big budget, but tried to do an organic and realistic aesthetic for a TV show when the animators were primarily tech geeks, not professional animators who understand the principles of animating movement.I'm not dunking on BW, I actually have an insane amount of respect for what they achieved, and how even during all this, they made sure the characters were always very lively and full of personality, even if they were just in the background of a scene. They gave a lot of care and polish to it, even if the models and animation were sometimes jank from lack of experience. Pioneers gonna be pioneers, etc.
>>10995848Well you can't see the toy in the package so you need to have something to sell the toy on.
>>10995849BW definitely improved significantly on ReBoot in terms of bodily animations.
the netflix shit sucks but at least the transformation animations are okay
'zat image limit now?
okay new thread >>10995857
>>10995856Yes. Your image dumping was a great credit to someone. Now you can make a new thread which is just spillover of this nonsense.
>>10995413>>10995742I'm gonna submit, but are you SURE this is for class, Polandanon I talked to years ago
>>10995782Not him, but I would be willing to see a line shake things up again even if it retained the characters. Something along the lines of how Bayformers changed things up, though it doesn't necessarily need to be that radical.
>>10995760>was a mistake because better versions came out later.Do you mean the Takara repaints? That's not on Hasbro, or you
>>10995849It's kind of funny since Mainframe approached Hasbro about doing a show since they probably saw G1 and the G2 toys and commercials on shelves and went "well shit, blocky robots are our JAM!" and then Hasbro said "sure, here's your new toyline it's about organic living creatures"
>>10995874>More exposure than a heavily censored show on ABC>Saved money by having leafs do the workMutually beneficial.
>>10995297>so it puzzles me why a cartoon like Earthspark just completely dropped the ball whereas one meant for much smaller children pulled it off greatprimarily it happens when a show is designed in 3d.Cause there's no reason to make them technically transform from one to the other, so they just make 2 different models and create a transformation sequence that blends the two.Beast Machines really started it.
>>10995779the original "Keep on Glidin'" pic will be 10 years old next January.
>>10995480>For alt mode scale, well, shit out of luck,I mean, not really. Over the years we've gotten so many different vehicles at so many different size classes. It's really not hard to mix and match and find good scale. Like, I'm having fun over here.
>>10995510>I bet if you sat down and watched G1 with the children of millennials you would win them over to how good the show used to be compared to whatever trash they have now.lol, no. A kid today would be bored to death by G1. It isn't flashy enough, there's not enough action, and it's not funny. They'll be asking you to shut it off so they can watch youtube before the first episode is over
>>10994989Fuck you I just bought them both. Was 110 after shipping
>>10995862Yes, this is one of ideas to pass subject. I dislike the amount of work I had to do only to do an exam in 3 weeks also. And it would be nice if girls in my team did anything at all.
>>10994989>>10996156Wait you guys are ACTUALLY paying like $50-60 each on these?
Wasn't there some anon that we thought was in a hurricane or warzone and we didn't hear from them or see their photos again for months>>10996260I gotta sleep but ganbare anon. Vaguely recall you posted an article you worked on, but this was quite a while back, glad to see you're doing well. Not sure whether this is one of those cases where the teacher adamantly refuses to do anything or will actually take your side if you can prove only you did the work, but hope at least the exam goes well in either case.
>>10995613>other things in the same rough size as a shuttleSpace station, Asteroids, UFOs?
>>10996071>lol, no. A kid today would be bored to death by G1.My nephew is 6 and he loves Transformers. He came over my house and saw the original G1 show on my Plex server so he asked to watch it. We didn't make it through a single episode before he lost interest.Retarded manchild toy collectors are already out of touch with their own generation, never mind younger ones. Unsurprisingly, "OLD THING GOOD" doesn't actually hold up in practice.
>>10996071>>10996489Maybe your nephew is just a stupid retarded kid with your stupid genetic stock. Don't blame G1 because your kids are stupid retards with autism.
>>10996489Transformers was never meant for 6 year olds, it's for slightly older children
>>10995799Always loved how gruesome Dinobot's transformation looked - he always looked like he was tearing his own ribcage open, which matched up with how his toy had exposed ribs (from his robot legs) there.
>>10996489>>10996510>>10996514>Transformers was never meant for 6 year olds, it's for slightly older childrenI watched G1 when it premiered in 1984 when I was six and was never bored. It's because children today are constantly bombarded with media that anything that isn't a 5 second TikTok video puts them to sleep.Also, you have to take into account that we hadn't seen anything like G1 Transformers at the time which made it fresh and exciting to watch. So it's understandable that children today can't sit down and watch anything as they all have ADD!!!FACT!!!
>>10999407I thought you were a shitty troll kid, but if you're really 45 years old this is beyond sad.
>>10995849The Bay movies are hateful, disgusting cinematic abortions that no one with an IQ above 80 watches. They make the fast and the furious movies look like Citizen Kane.
