>Can I see your Angel's Landing® National Parks Trail Permit™ please?>Oh you mean you don't have one? >That'll be a $200 + tip fine thenWhat would you do, /out/?
>>2725691>implying /out/ would actually go outside
>>2725691>What would you do, /out/?Climb Mt Kinesava. It is both cooler and way way less crowded.
>>2725691I would flick your funko pop off that rock and then go to less crowded places in Utah
Silly anon Rin doesn't hike she camps you should've picked up an Aoi, Hinata, or Kokona nendoroid
>>2725691>no hablo ingles>no tengo dinero
>>2725691i was there during the good old rona phase. park was pretty empty. met some random Mormon doing a some wired spiritual journey on the bus. we talked later we basically sprinted up the mountain because it was already getting late and buses were limited. had lunch on top walked back for the last buss. (than we made sweet love) 10/10 corona national parks were truly amazing
I hate NPS red tape more than most people, but I can see why they made that trail permit-only. Last time I did Angels Landing was 2019, I was one of the first people to the top (3rd from the first shuttle of the day), and the way down was miserable. There were so many fatties slowly shuffling along the chain sections, never stopping the one way stream for in-shape hikers going the opposite way who could easily get through in a few seconds.I think Observation Point is finally reopened after the rockslide 5 years ago. IMO it's a much better view and the steeper hike filters more fatties. Better yet, hike to it from the east rim trailhead and enjoy quiet parts of the park that normalfags never see.
>>2725691Slightly unrelated, but I stayed in numerous US national parks last summer and learned that the "America the Beautiful" or whatever pass they have is a pretty good deal. 80-ish$, unlimited access to all parks and nationally approved "scenic points" in the nation for the year for one vehicle or two people. Honestly really good deal for what it is, and the fact that for the price of a cheap hotel room you get a year of camping one could stay at instead. Depending on the state and the park, price varies wildly. I stayed for free in Kansas, for example - the rules say that *if* the sheriff is there, give him 11$, otherwise its free. Lowest paid prices was 6$/n (South Dakota) to 32$/n (Malibu/Highway One California), with 12$ a night being the average price in the *average* parks. That's a tent spot, a fire pit, parking if needed, and a picnic table (probably). I regret not having the pass, as I learned about it at the end of the trip - I would have saved significant money, seeing as I was on a 6 week tour of the country. I'm used to Crown Land - and I prefer it as a system to just have public land be directly accessible - but the US parks are honestly damn affordable if you pay for nature's battle pass or whatever it counts as.
>>2725976USACE here, we sell those passes. It's free for the disabled and veterans, so they get an even better deal. Geriatrics (62+) also get a 75% discount.
>2023+1>The biggest weeb on /out/ still hasn't taken Rin up Mt. FujiSad
>>2725976US public land is stratified by type, managing agency, and basic regulations (and site specific regulations). About 97% of US public land is not in national parks (NPS has the strictest regs of any US public land, even more so than designated USFS wilderness which you can still go in on foot for free in most of it). Which means, about 97% of US public land is free access. Only a handful of the countless beautiful and wild areas of the US is set in NPS land. If you want to see the NPS parks by all means go ahead, but be aware they are the strictest public land type in the entire US (again stricter than US designated non-motor vehicle or road wilderness), and make up only about 3% of the total US public land area inventory.
>>2726682>The biggest weeb on /out/i got him beat
>>2725936>I think Observation Point is finally reopened after the rockslide 5 years agoStill closed lmao>observation point closed>angel's landing needs a gay permit>the narrows you need to buy/rent fancy drysuit for $100/day otherwise the rangies won't let you walkThere is litterally no point in taking the zion shuttle these days, there is nothing of value to be seen in that godforsaken canyon. All the best stuff is right outside in the national forest anyways
>>2725827>Aoi>hiking
Imagine paying the government for permission to walk in the woods
>>2726893>the libertarian party has entered the chatFuck every three letter agency from the IRS to the NPS
>>2726880Wtf are you talking about with the narrows? You don’t need to rent a suit. If the trail is open, you can walk the trail with whatever. Also, observation point is still open, just not from the valley floor. To get the observation point you need to start from the Zion ponderosa ranch which is technically outside of the park.
>>2726893Its like 3 dollars for a permit, and they did it because tiktokers kept going and wrecking the place
>>2726910>$6 to enter permit lottery>can only apply 24 hours before permit date>only allow 600 people per day>meanwhile zion gets 5 million visitors per yearRecreation.gov was a mistake
>>2726892She was still getting her hiking legs at that point
>>2725827based yama no susume poster
>>2726920The money doesn't even go to the NPS, it goes to Booz Allen.
>>2725691cool pic anon, heres mine
>>2731960How much was the trip. Saw a video of people waiting hours in line for a permit I believe to go up. Did u feel like u were getting scammed in any part of the trip, like for food, lodging or transportation. Any tips. Might go with 1 friend.
>>2731964line wasnt too bad because i went as early as possible. had tickets for circuit 4 but bribed security guard to let me onto the best cuircuit (circuit 2 has best views). its very touristy though, feels more like a museum than being /out/. peru overall had many tourist trap places and street shops but their currency sucks and food was cheap so unless youre room temp iq and cant barter for shit then you should be fine
Appreciate the advice, thank you anon.
>>2725691start hiking, if they want to tax me they have to earn the privilege to do so
Fuck yeah Climbing General, it's been too long.I've been having a blast this season at the Gunks so far.Got two new climbing partners that are around the same ability as me and it's allowing me to push my grades up a little more than in the past when I was climbing with a less able climber.Managed to onsight Never Never Land, my first 10b (on GunksApps, 10a mproj). Super technical slab climb with some fantastic committing movement. Also been super fun revisiting past climbs that felt like a challenge and now are just cruiser.Always on lookout for more partners if there's any NE anons that want to get after it. Looking to hit up some of the longer climbs up in NH.
>>2731960BASEDASEDThis one's going in the compilation
>>2732544would be possible to share this? I want to make a collage wallpaper of these pics, would it be possible to make a google doc or something?
>>2733621>>2730939>https://files.catbox.moe/b9ixv3.zip>https://files.catbox.moe/baxvm1.zip
>>2731444>The money doesn't even go to the NPS, it goes to Booz Allen.i hate government bureaucrats so goddamned much
>>2733667thanks man
>>2725691im sorry op. whenever i see a doll like this I cannot help but think the poster is total faggot. am I wrong? Its just so gay
>>2733682Good thing you bumped this thread then.
>>2733682He's a friendless loser and a manchild. That's why he needs a fucking doll for company. >>2733722A whole six minutes after the last post. But don't worry. It won't be long before this thread is saged off the catalog like all your other tranime posts.
Why are there so many fat people and pajeets in Zion? Its fucking disgusting.
>>2733800because everyone shills western us national parks as the be-all-end-all of scenic tourism, and people willing to put the least amount of planning in, who go with the herd all end up there>It won't be long before this thread is saged off the catalog like all your other tranime posts.based
I was in Zion 3 days ago and only went as a matter of principal. Prior to it, I visited the other 4 Utah parks on the trip, and just decided “fuck it”, ill go to Zion just to go. So I got there, hop on the tram, it only has 2 fucking stops. What? Hidden Canyon? Closed. Observation Point? Closed. Weeping Rock? Closed. Angels Landing? Permit needed. What? A fucking permit? Last time I came I didnt need a permit?Honestly I didnt even give a fuck at that point, I was so burnt out, I just hopped off the tram, admired the canyon walls for a bit and left. Same with Arches. I got there one afternoon and was like what the fuck? I need a reservation for this shit too? Went back the next day at 5AM instead. Does anyone know what time the rangers get up there? I wonder if I finished Angels Landing by 6:30 AM, would they be there to check permits? >2 minutes of research later From Reddit: “ A few yeara ago we backpacked another part of the park and we came into the park around 0330, we decided to hike angels landing, it was fairly treaterous even with our headlights and on the way back we encounted 3 rangers, they werent happy. We had to pay a fine, which we did without complaint. I am not sure what their schedules are, but I think they are always watching. Plus imo its not that cool in the dark. Goodluck”Unbelievable holy fuck.
>>2735207Man, the feds really love to close off public land. Nearly all of the "stay on trail" or "area closed" signs I've ever seen were in national parks, monuments and wildlife refuges
>>2725976u lhave to pay money to go outside thr absolute state of this county
Was just there last week.No forest jannies can touch me.(there were none. everyone was going up anyway without a permit)
>>2735428Yea I this a meme or real?Fucking mental if true.
>>2725691(((they))) own all "public" lands
>>2725691
>>2735207>going to zion and arches>skipping bryce, canyonlands, capitol reef, and grand escalanteAnon why did you go to the two WORST parks in utah and skip all the good ones?> Honestly I didnt even give a fuck at that point, I was so burnt out, I just hopped off the tram, admired the canyon walls for a bit and leftI felt the same as you, planned to spend several days in zion but ended up leaving early because of the permitting BS to go to bryce. Best part is they issued me a backcountry permit on the spot, and there were so few people i just camped off trail and nobody stopped me
>>2735455i was there last week too. hundreds of pajeets tho i couldnt walk on trail without them in way.
>>2737500Can you read? I went to all 5 parks in the state on that trip and thoroughly enjoyed all of them, except Zion. I went to Zion last as an afterthought.I went to Bryce First, hiked Navajo Loop/Queens Garden. Last time I went was the dead of winter and I had everything to myself, I loved the experience, but this time was more a run and gun type of visit.Then that same day I went to Capitol Reef via RT-12 (incredible drive holy fuck) and hiked Cassidy Arch/Hickman Natural Bridge. Incredible hike , Cassidy Arch. Over and over on the trail you hear “wow this may be the most beautiful trail ive ever hiked”. Such an easy and beautiful hike it almost feels sinful. Hickman bridge was not nearly as impressive.Next day I went to Canyonlands and visited every observation point and overlook (White Rim/Upheval Dome being the highlights). I did Corona Arch and Potash Rd. later that day and camped on Potash Rd. Next day was Arches (Delicate Arch/Devils Garden/Windows) and Castle Valley/Fisher Towers later in the day. Next day was Canyonlands Needles District/Bears Ears/Monument Valley/Goosenecks/Vermillion Cliffs, mostly driving, but beautiful driving my god.Last day was Zion. Closed ass Zion. Permit needed to hike Zion. I rode the tram and fucked off. Matter of principle. Regarding Zion, the drive in via RT-9 is much more incredible going East to West rather than the other way around. What a fucking mindblowing drive. Most people dont even drive the 9 when they visit Zion. Its like a third of the park. Incredible walls jesus.I will say Capitol Reef stunned me the most, what a lovely place. White Rim overlook is better than anything in Arches but overall Arches has a more magical feel to it, to me anyway.These were all 12-15 hour days where every bit of sunlight was used. I was alone and I hiked like a guy on meth. If I do it again im skipping Zion entirely, Bryce too. Capitol Reef/Moab area is where its at.Picrel from previous Bryce Visit.
>>2735207>Same with Arches. I got there one afternoon and was like what the fuck? I need a reservation for this shit too? Went back the next day at 5AM instead.>Does anyone know what time the rangers get up there? I wonder if I finished Angels Landing by 6:30 AM, would they be there to check permits?What I did>Apply for lottery 3 days in a row>lose each time>say fuck it>park outside of canyon gate>there's have no upcanyon bus at the gate to prvent people doing this, so first take bus down canyon to visitor center>ride second last bus up canyon>get off at angels landing stop>go up angels landing>get to top as last groups of people are scrambling to catch the last bus back to visitor center>they tell me all the rangies left>enjoy angels landing sunset all to myself>night-hike down the road back to carIn retrospect if you can bring a bike, that's much easier than doing the 3.5 mile nighthike.Alternatively if you're a richfag they allow people staying at the zion hotel to drive up the canyon road anyway
