Hopes? Fears?
>>1722101stop remaking old games or making clones of old games and pretending they're new games
>>1722113not happening anytime soonMarket is obsessed with safe bets, and remakes are seen as such
>>1722101Honestly they don't really need to change anything in terms of balance, because I can't really remember anything inherently too broken... Maybe Loki's hero rush, and Gaia?I'm kinda worried about them changing the story though, because I already see tree lady (Gaia?) before the expansion.
I want Atlantis nerfed or at least the other nations' gatherer units buffed. Since they're making most god powers as cooldown abilities, hopefully it'll mitigate Atlantis power spam faggotry.
>>1722302>Since they're making most god powers as cooldown abilitiesWhy? Are they trying to make each game longer?
>>1722397I'm guessing they're trying to make them more relevant in plays
>>1722397>WhyBecause God Powers and Myth Units are the main selling point of the game, and shit like Plague of Serpents is useless if you can only use it once.
It's gonna be shit just like Age of Empires 4.
>>1722449As far as I concerned, they didn´t put a 2 in the title.
>>1724914>its realoh god
>>1722101>Prostagma?
>>1724914Wut. Where does that belong on the furry scale? The eyelashes are what sells this.>>1724916It could be just sillyposting like some of the other stuff on their Twitter. It looks AI generated in the first place.
>>1722213wat the balance was terrible
>>1724914100% AI generated.There's 0 hope for this game.
>>1724942details are too similar, its over
>>1725021
>>1724997It was alright I remember, at least per race (not too sure about Chinese as I never played that). Each culture had at least one tier-1 major god if I remember correctly (Norse - Loki, Egyptians - Set, Greek-Hades, and Atlanteans Gaia). Granted AoM was more prone to rushing then any of the others in the series, so like Titans and Wonders were usually useless additions.
>>1724914>AI slop
>>1722445Just implement Atlantean multi-use powers on things that are under-powered then. Putting everything on cooldown seems like changing things for the sake of changing things, especially when there already exists systems to make things work better.
>>1724914>>1725021>>1725022Zero respect for using AI art on this.FUCK them.
>>1725349
>>1725351Sure if their team of assets are called Stable and Diffusion.
>>1722101>hope they add a bunch of weird gods and nations>Fears they add YWYH as the only God that matters.
>>1725022AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHIM COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!COOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMINGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMNGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMINNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>1725351The worst is that this is believable.The absolute state of the woke west.
>>1725383At most they had some intern adjust the number of fingers out of the AI piece. No thinking human would've made that shit.
>>1725383Is using AI woke now?
>>1722113Why? If you can provide more of something that works why would you not do it? New is just new, it isn't necessarily good. Meanwhile there are a lot of old good ideas left to rot.
>>1725415Breathing is woke if you are paid to complain about the west.
>>1725415No it's just a shit practice regardless of your politic opinions.
>>1722101THIS IS JUST LIKE MY HECKIN' AVENGERINOS
>>1722113AoM with ranked servers is better than the shit game they would have otherwise made
>>1722213I think there will be a few extra scenarios but they probably won't interfere with the main story
>>1725022>>1725021>>1724914add some sigma male music and this belongs straight into a pajeet's "ai draw countries as mythological creatures" youtube compilation
>>1725351sopa de ai
>>1722302I don't think atlantean eco is that busted, citizens take longer to train
>>1725415No it just looks like ass
Mods will fix it bros.
>>1724914Gimme the sauce bitch
>>1726106The AoM official twitter.
>hopesI hope it will improve on the original in a meaningful way, though this is very unlikely>fearsNone, if it's shit the original game is still there and I will ignore the remake just like I did with aoe 2, homeworld, and countless others.
>>1722113>making clones of old gamesUnironically the 90s pc scene and most 90s console scene trying to copy arcade
>>1725418shut the fuck up
It's a shame Age of Mythology never had an expansion and no new civs came out for it. Still, I'm pretty happy with AoM as it is. It has the best singleplayer campaign of all RTS.
>>1727856>if it's shit the original game is still there and I will ignore the remake just like I did with aoe 2lol
why is it that everyone says atlanteans are overpowered, even though most of the top pros play greek
>>1728430Because they only superficially played the game 20 years ago and called it a day.
>>1727906Titans? Atlanteans weren't in the base game
>>1725351why?why would you do this when the originals were so good literally every Web 2.0 site about mythology/deities used them?
>>1726099That's what people claimed about Extended Edition, mods never fixed it.
Any oldfags here? Hella nostalgic about rts-sanc and eso times rn. I'm about to play some Aom the titans vs bots.
>>1728430Mulit-use god powers, citizens are their own drop off point, and free favor.It's more "look how lazily this faction was designed" than "nerf the Atlantians, I'm sick of losing to them".
>>1729334It's strange that they seem to be designed as a civ for beginners, yet they're in the expansion that you'd only ever get if you've already played the game a lot. Automatons are still cool though.>>1724914Yeah fuck this, if this is the '''art''' they're going with then I'm staying far away from the remake
>>1724914Better spend than one of the gachas that claim to be focused on "otaku culture".
>>1729475what do you have in mind?
>>1724914See I wouldn't mid AI, if there was like some level of human hand fixing shit or like adding their taste/style to it. The problem with this is 90~100% just machine, so it just feels a lazy cash grab (or desperate devs without funding).To note, even if this was actually a human artist (I doubt it), it's still so soulless that it feels like a machine which defeats the purpose. LIke they didn't even fix the poor Bast's misaligned headband... and everything else...Fuck...
>>1725991https://youtu.be/qLlJ8pklRb0https://youtu.be/rkpTB-OXrWk
>>1722302You guys have it way easy nowadays, back then before voobly fan-patches/EE was a thing, everyone played on 1.03 version and Ouranos was the most broken god because of shockwave.
Its quite hard to make custom scenarios in aom right?T. Single player fag
>>1730737kinda, I mean , it's not a modern RTS editor, but it gets the job done
>Manor Lords>Shadow of the Erdtree>KCD 2>AoM Retold (hopefully it's not shit)It's going to be a good year, bros.
>>1733206>It never is "a good year"
>>1725351If they aren't lying then they are idiots, because they didn't need the hacks that made their art. Would be funny if the artists they hired were just using AI art but didn't tell the team for an easy paycheck
>>1729643i stand corrected, the ai slop looks better
>>1724914AI peddlers need to be stopped before they kill civilization.
>>1729331Fistbro. Eso, expert chat, looking for replays on mrfixit rather than lazily watching twitch where watchers can (and will) give their noob opinion.I played until 2004 or so, and during Covid I checked out the scene again. Man, the game changed a lot since then.
Yeah, talking about noob opinions. >>1722213>Loki hero rush and Gaia broken???????>>1722445>Plague of Serpents uselessRandom Land player detected>>1725043>Tier 1 Loki, Set, Hades, GaiaWhoa, luckily you squeezed Set in there, otherwise 4 out of 4 would be wrong.>AoM more prone to rushingWhen the meta is literally 2tc boom. Or maybe you say "was" because back in 2004 we were playing fucking 20 min classical wars with singers and spearmen and shit, but that's not how the game is supposed to be played.There are some rushes that work, but it's not the norm.>>1725994>Atty eco not bustedEither you never played Atty, or you main Oranos and have room temperature IQ. >>1730702OK, somebody who knows. My god, finally.
>>1733275Would be funny if he gets outed by gamer autism
>>1733811>mass replying esports autistWho asked?
>>1724914I used to be in favour of AI slop, but this is embarassing. It looks like some incel shooped a cat meme onto a woman's body
>>1734043>esports autistOne thing is that probably Microsoft is catering to those crowds? I feel that a lot of AoE4's design was "optimized" to capture that market with the franchise name-brand push... Although still losing to AoE2 in terms of fanaticism and prize pool expense. So far original AoM is less than a speck in the e-sports scene, so maybe they're hoping/gambling for it to be the next big thing.
>>1734088Let's be real, this game isn't going to be very appealing in terms of competitive esports. It's way too gimmicky and is mostly catering to casual millennials who played the campaign 20 years ago; they will buy Retold and stream their easy diff campaign games while holding a coffee mug and going "ah, the nostalgia". Maybe there will be one medium-sized tournament and that's it. Let's remember that AoM at launch was a decent success but had official support only for one tournament, and probably expecting a lot more would be too optimistic. Not that it is a bad thing, mind you. In many aspects this game relies more on the fun factor of casting destructive godpowers and commanding powerful myth units rather than on balance, and if that gets stripped out in an attempt of appealing to the competitive environment then I'm afraid not many people will be playing it after a few months. >>1734043>who askedYou did, by posting your random ass takes on balance. It's always like this: the less you understand a game, the more vocal you are about what's "op". Maybe you should learn to listen first. But God forbid you don't post your noob opinions anyway.
>>1734088>So far original AoM is less than a speck in the e-sports scene, so maybe they're hoping/gambling for it to be the next big thing.Decent change they're going to change too much and turn away both audiences
>>1734292>Decent chance they're going to change too much and turn away both audiencesThey already tried to cater the chinks into it with the very late expansion, and kinda failed at that so... I mean if you're going to market to China I expect 10K+ at least, but it only went low 5k for players at launch Tale of the Dragon. Even the DE's base game only went for 11k at launch (compared to like AoE2:EE's 20k+, or even AoE3:DE's 18k), so I even wonder if this has the nostalgia base it can farm and sustain. 13 year-old me had a lot of good memories with it with my buds in the LAN basement, but I don't think it was ever the popular RTS overall.
>>1722101It better be fucking good after the shitpile that was Tale of the Dragon.
>>1729613>>1724914I have no idea if shit shit is AI slop or not, but I'ld like to remind you all that shitty artists exist and they get hired all the time.
>>1734881The classic "give trash jobs for stupid people, who probably they,re gonna get shit karma for their poor lifechoices"
>>1734341AoM had a lot of success early 2000s. You have absolutely no idea how well documented it is in both English and French forums. The game was very much alive til early 2010s until ESO servers got shutdown and made the community split to Voobly and Gameranger. The base game also was hard to install on newer hardware so it didn't help with attracting newer people.When EE came out, it had crashing problems and was poorly optimized but the main problem is that the dev team balanced the game on their own fashion with no regard to the RTS-sanctuary community who had a monopoly over AoM balance and events for years. It ended up making the OGs not want to move, they stayed on Voobly but the player base kept shrinking over time.
>>1735941No regard to the rts-s community? Did you read the names on the balance team? Magic, Mista, Brick, Nemesis, Lorenzo, I think Kyomaku was in there too. The game was a mess, but mistakes were made also on the balance side by voobly players.
>>1737532I'm not saying that RTS-sanc community are victims. I'm telling you that after ESO shutdown, there was always something that made the community split when everyone should have moved to EE.
>>1737589Kinda makes me realize how fanatical the AoE2 fanbase is overall. I mean it's still not as big as Starcraft per say, but at the same time Microsoft doesn't give damn shit compared to Bobby & Blizzard in everything.
>>1737623What are you talking about? AoE2s playerbase has long since eclipsed SC
>>1737623Microsoft has been very cautious trying not to anger the fanbase too bad but it's not working.
>>1722302Citizens gather less than villagers per population used.
>>1722101>HopesFull mod support/adding in new civs/gods instead of replacing base game ones.>FearsThe reality of the situation.
>>1737668Do you have the numbers backing that up? I’m tired of cocky, k-pop-obsessed SCfaggots talking shit about AoE
>>1737668>>1744187AoE2:DE has like 76k-ish players on ladder for "Random Map Team;" the most popular game mode. SC2 reported 85K-ish of it's active players back February of this year 2024, as a Q1 report for investors. AoE4 seems to have 107k-ish on their ladder "quickmatch 4v4". It's not the most accurate in total active player numbers, as ladder numbers could have multiple accounts, on/off players, etc. Interestingly SC2's 1v1 ladder has 124k in number of metric sites, which is 50% more than the report, and AoE2:DE has more players in Steam Rankings of active players than AoE4. However in either way, AoE2 and AoE4 seems to have a large player base that dwarfs most current RTS, and could be matching or even overtaken SC2 currently.In terms money flowing SC2 still is the king, and $100k+ is common enough prize pool for their tournament ($400~500k is also frequent). AoE2's prize pool also frequents $100k+, but $50k+ is more common. Funnily enough, even though it's the most in ladder numbers, AoE4 has the shittiest prize pool, and rarely goes to $10K+ (those are for S-tier) and under $1k is the most common. So if AoE2 players says AoE4 is more casual they're completely right in terms of the pro-player infrastructure and network.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LALp1dX4pt0
>>1725021Why does he look like fucking Aquaman?
>>1725021putting the original art back will be one of the first mods to happen.they quality difference is laughable
>>1745754>Just some guys on a boat doing boat stuff>He just comes up and kills themOh yeah that's right, he was a fucking prick in the campaign.the real mythology is still worse though, more petulant than Zeus.
>>1725022Looks like when you use that face app to make someone smile.
>>1725022Spirit wolves don't belong in AoM. This isn't Warcraft 3.
Subhuman artists are the worst nigger loving anti-white faggots and AI disenfranchising them is a good thing.
>>1745754Dude that was fucking hand painted, how dare they replace it with AI shit
>>1729017this unlocked so many memories, it was true, people used the AoM depictions of the ancient greek gods everywhere
>>1722101Main thing I'm hoping for is QoL features, that and some improvement to pathing/unit behaviours.Have they confirmed whether or not chinks will be in this?
>>1747759>Have they confirmed whether or not chinks will be in this?No Chinese Myths included in the release. Although there was a podcast that states that they are also working on Tales of Dragon? Could be him making a mistake though...https://youtu.be/Xmu5jeHe6Nc?feature=shared&t=2512
I hoped it would look somewhat like this https://youtu.be/TZt2YBv0U3Y
>>1724914not a furfag what is wrong with this
>>1748405>>1729613
>>1748409>damn i wish aom got a remake>it's ai slopnot like this
>>1747726I keep seeing AoM Zeus literally everywhere, even IRL.
>>1725418A remake of an old good idea isn't guaranteed to be good either, and fucking up and ruining a remake is worse for your reputation than releasing a bad new game 99% of the time. If you want a safe bet, just port the old game to new systems, which AoM already had happen.
>>1748947Are you his prophet or something?
>>1725361We're in a new era of 'Chef Mike'.
They're going to make Isis black, aren't they?
>>1752943WE
Vanilla AoM was the only good AoM. Titans was shit and ruined the game, EE was shit and ruined the game, Retold will be shit and ruin the game. You can tweak god powers and add shit like widescreen res support without polluting the game with half-assed shit factions and retarded gimmicks, just port the original fucking game oh wait you can't because you fired everyone who worked on the fucking thing.It's dead, pirate the original and be thankful that's even an option.
>>1744357Buy an ad.
>>1752943Set took that role.
>>1722101Is that AI?
>>1752943We already know what Isis looks like in Retold, look at OP's image. She's basically the same. Also, the original Age of Mythology had a black woman as the Egyptian faction representative, so let's not pretend that would be anything new.
>>1753217>had a black woman as the Egyptian faction representativeWouldn't know, decades of playing and I never played the campaign
>>1753217>Also, the original Age of Mythology had a black woman as the Egyptian faction representative,She was literally a Nubian mercenary.
>>1753415Nah, she was a Nubian QUEEN
>>1753416You mean WOMAN KANG
>>1722101Good morning saars
>>1725988thisI'd even play this shitty game again if there were ranked servers, I was pretty good rushing loki back in the day
>>1724914The artwork looks much better than the original, and i say this as someone who believe this remake should not exist.
>>1753901Found the artist.
>>1753415Yeah, and she was the Egyptian faction representative.
>>1753901>I like the art, fellow players
>>1754388The original art looks like one of those bobbly head toys. It looks terrible and always did. I don't to invent problems where there are none, the remake already ruined Gaia and will certainly ruin much more.
>>1754914Am I replying to a human being?Are they training AI to raid these threads?
>>1755492>Are they training AI to raid these threads?It's been like that for a while.
>>1754914there is no single conceivable metric under which the old art is worse than the new one.It's fractally superior, on every aspect you scrutinize you find it beats the new shit in ways you didn't even consider previously
>>1722113AoE4 is so good that they implement things from it to AoE2 DE.
>>1756174oh no
>>1755492You can't even identify an AI generated image.
>>1722113If Retold takes off, Microsoft will want a modern sequel, like they did with AoE2:DE.
>>1722101>Hopes?It's not shit>Fears?It's shit
>>1756192You can identify the ones I make
>>1756420now do Aphrodite
>>1756420Eyes are fucked upEar is fucked upLogo on her shirt is fucked upHair and bone shading are fucked upShe's sitting in what seems like a metal container but it's also sort of a piece of fabricExtreme light and contrast that every AI shit has.2/10 got me to reply
>>1756695>You canreading comprehension anon, it saves lives
>>1756695And I still love it
>>17564200/10I gen better than this. Use a better model.
>>1757393I don't care what you like
Why yes, I'm an Isis manHow could you tell?
>>1755492You haven't been in /x/.>>1756172I have to agree with this man
>>1756172>there is no single conceivable metric under which the old art is worse than the new one.To be honest, the old art looks like cheap 80s-90s rockstars art posters.
>>1760512you're still not contradicting what I said
>>1760512>>1760751This. Better, not good by itself.
Real art. By real artists.
>>1760908Sir do not redeem
>>1760908It's too bad they had to compress it to jpeg and add so much artifacts + shrink to low-res in the game.
>>1761304>we will never have a remaster where they just gave us uncompressed artwork from the original game Modern game development blows
>>1760908Gonna repeat again for you monkey brains...>>1760512
>>1761778And again>>1760751
the sheer disrespect...
>>1761648For all we know the original artwork could be lost. I mean think about it, this is an industry where it's a common occurrence to lose the source code; even in now the 2020's.
>>1761872Is the original artist still around? Or at least someone who can replicate his style? They didn't even attmpt.
>>1761778>>there is no single conceivable metric under which the old art is worse than the new one.NTA, but that's a lie for this case. It would be true if there's no context or goal for the art to define itself, but the goal here is to appeal to the audience on the imagery of ancient mythology and it's divinities. When you have jewelry that physically cannot go on the wearer's head and one-hand having less fingers than another (as>>1729613); it's just bad and you don't have to be an expert on art to know it is. Loki and Poseidon arguable, but Bast no it's just bad. BTW I first thought this was not official, but it was official and made me sad...
>>1761904>Is the original artist still around?The chief concept artist was David Cherry, and he's like 75 so he's probably retired. He was like well-known in 70's sci-fi/fantasy.>They didn't even attmpt.Here's a thing that might terrify you... Maybe they couldn't because all the original art could be lost and/or no one knows how to use physical oil paint in the industry. Ensemble Studios studio died in 2008 with AoM and AoE3, so within the lay-offs and repos we could of lost a lot of knowledge and tech. If you think about even AoE4 had really weird art compared to AoE3....
>>1761905I count five digits on that hand
>>1761905Reading comprehension Anon, it saves lives
Instead of "offbrand Greece" and "China but it's completely unfun and retarded", why not hindus / whichever mesoamerican culture had the wackiest pantheon / Japan?
>>1761949Because when it came out (2002) globalization wasn't a big thing yet, and the west basically only knew the big 3. The Chinese were added 12 years later to lure rich chinks. We don't really know if they're going to be added in the remake.
>>1761953I mean, Atlantis and China should obviously be excluded from the remake because they're bad factions. There's demand for new factions and campaigns but it would have to be a serious effort instead of duct taping some bullshit on top of an otherwise very well designed system.
>>1761957>a serious effort instead of duct taping some bullshitWell anon, isn't a remake already kinda of a lazy cash grab than say actually making a sequel? We shouldn't expect too much, and at best if we get something like AoE2:DE we should be happy that they didn't fuck it up.Although that's already too optimistic, because we already know that God Powers are on a timer instead of limited use. That's a huge change in terms of mechanics.
>>1761949>>1761953Regarding Hindus, Ensemble had a rule back then where they didn't want to include widely-practiced extant religions to avoid any inevitable controversy from referring to their beliefs as "mythology" or depicting it in a way that would offend, etc.
>>1761976I don't expect it to be good, I'm just talking hypotheticals.
>>1761977Yeah true. Hindus and even Japanese Shinto is still a practiced religion. Although the Japanese don't really care too much, if you look at their games and how they depict their gods.
>>1761989>even Japanese Shinto is still a practiced religionYeah, but it's extremely niche. It took a massive blow when god-emperor Hirohito got publically humiliated. To demonstrate how irrelevant it is today I remember some anon on /his/ posted a street interview where some Japanese people thought it was some an imported religion from Korea or something. It's just that shinto encompasses a lot of cultural traditions that people still participate in during festivals etc so that massively inflates the numbers despite extremely few Japanese people actually believing in it as a faith.
>>1761999>a street interview where some Japanese people thought it was some an imported religion from Korea or something.Either the guy who made the video slapped that Jap with a few thousand Yen and told him to say that, or that Jap was just getting confused by random bits and pieces of hypotheses about the historical connection between Koreans and Japanese. As a Japanese you cannot possibly "not know what Shinto is", though obviously the vast majority of people do not know much of the details of it nor really believe in it.
>>1762027They of course knew about Shinto, just didn't know the details of its origin because it's such an irrelevant thing in Japan outside of holidays. Post-war occupation with the intent of de-radicalising the population really did a number on them. Modern Japanese society is overwhelmingly irreligious and doesn't really care much about it one way or the other.
>>1762027Yeah this. Like the imported from Korea thing IMO seems to be either a) a question in the context of wondering it's historical origin (i.e. was it with the yaoi crossing, or was it before, etc.) or b) the /his/ guy mistranslated Buddhism with Shinto (as most people will know that religion came from Korean missionaries in around in the 6th century).
>>1762048It was definitely a. Pretty sure the way it went was the was questioning various Japanese people on whether or not they believed in it. On one occasion the interviewer said something about how he was surprised at how little belief there was since it was a Japanese religion after all and a couple of Japanese women were surprised by that statement and said they thought it was foreign like from Korea.
>>1762059the guy was*
>>1725991
>>1724914>>1725021>>1725022I don't even find most of the old art that good. Only a handful of gods looked really nice like Zeus, Ra or Thor. Most of them were pretty mediocre. But holy shit the new art looks Chinese mobile game tier. I don't even care if its AI or not the style is simply soulless.
there isnt an aoe4 thread so im going to post here. how. the. FUCK. do you play the sandniggers ascend campaign on hardest difficulty? i did the first mission fine but i cant figure out the 'into egypt' mission for the life of me. the way that time works is fucking bullshit. yes mad.
>>1722101I want more than anything for this to be good, but I know deep down they're gonna fuck it up immensely
>>1768009>tfw deep down anon is right
>>1754225Because even then they wouldn't have gotten away with a game with zero diversity. The decision was understandable at the time.
>>1768199>>1754225She based though.
That picrel looks like one of the AI abominations I get when I take an image and upscale it with high denoise for the lulzI'm shocked that Zeus/Odin aren't black
marvel and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
>>1768227>AmanraSee at least she's properly fluffed as a Nubian Mercenary, and not like this weird fetish of making ancient Egyptians into completely black people. Not denying that there was Nubian rulers or mixing of cultures by the way, but Ancient Egypt has been a target of Afrocentrism way too much.
>>1769256They're trying to bury the truth under a mountain of falsehoods.
No hopes all fears. It's Current Year +9.46>>1722397>cooldown ceasefireYeah this doesn't sound fair
>>1722101Considering how much bitching is here, and probably soon by some LGTB ass who´s gonna think that Gaia design is sexist (somehow), probably good.
>>1768009>"I´m bad at the game, so I wanna to see it fail" moment
>>1761999>Right, smol goat man>Left, prototype of gaymer pig man with a severe case of diarrhea
>June>Still no newsmaybe this weekend at SGF
>>1769256It’s entirely due to Americans too. The intense narcissism/inferiority complex of their negroids combined with the negroid worship which permeates every aspect of American culture enables Afrocentrist nonsense.
>>1722101why can't we simply get a good modding community for AOM like for example that of BFME?!
aom bros we are so fucking backhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbste8C0Yes
>No mention of the chinksKEK so much for "we will rework them"
>>1777003that's the paid dlc anon
>>1777002>1:13>nononono>HAAHAAHAAHAAAA
>>1777002It's on consoles making it dead on arrival.
>>1777002cartoony mobile looking garbage might pirate it to see if it is as terrible as it looks and holy fuck was that capeshit trailer pure cringe
>>1777066Trailer for midjourney pngs
>no cinematicThere will be one for when the game launches, r-right??https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A17oUv0E-N4
>doubled down on Gaia's shitty remodelIt's over
>>1761999Golem on the left has one of the most soulless expressions ever
>>1777002>six finger AI zeuslmao hope they fail immensely.
>>1777003We already knew the chinese wouldn't be in the base game. they shouldn't be in the game at all, same for the atlanteans.
Who the hell is this guy? All the other characters from this part were major gods, so I'm guessing it's redesigned Oranos?
>>1777118>Who the hell is this guy?Oceanus, a minor atlantean god in the game.
>>1777100>it's realSo people saying the artwork was AI like >>1761905 weren't kidding it's DOA
>>1777124Oh, my bad. I was wrong.
holy shit we are getting the chinese back as a paid dlc lol
>>1777125I count four + white shadow but holy fuck LOOK at the eyes
the system requirements thankfully don't seem absurd
>>1777148>GT 420I think I'll stick with the OG.
>>1777125Are you blind? That's five fingers, not six. But the torso is clearly ai generated and potentially touched up, and his arm guards aren't even properly aligned. The one on his raised arm has six "rings" the other one has seven. His eyes are also fucked up, he looks like he has a lazy eye. It doesn't look as bad as Bastet but it's not good.
>charging for the original art out of all the Jewish things they could have done, this is the most Jewish
>>1777002>mobile phone cartoon aesthetics its over
>>1777178>New Gods Pack: FreyrThey're going to nickel and dime us for one new Major God at a time, aren't they?>selling the legacy Deity Portraits for extraMY BLOOD IS BOILING.
>soundtrack?butchered >artwork?replaced with shit and placed the originals behind a paywall >aesthetics?trounced beyond recognition in an unholy mixture of cartoonified hyperrealism
>>1777178>the nu art is shit on purpose i did not see that coming
>>1777185Yeah, that one is weird, and apparently timed exclusive for the seasons pass preorder edition. So if it's OP you get to dunk on the poors?
>>1777186This looks fucking terrible. How hard is it to make a good looking remaster?
another case of "less is more"
>>1777186>cartoonified hyperrealismretold? more like reforged
>>1777190it all makes sense now
>it's going to be Reforged levels of fucked FIRST HOMEWORLDNOW AGE OF MYTHOLOGYTHE MONKEYPAW MUST BE DESTROYED
>>1777222It's even worse that they're redoing all the voice acting and apparently adding a daughter for Arkantos (alongside Kastor, so apparently she'll be in the New Atlantis campaign too).
>>1777225i refuse to believe this
i'm just glad it's not an xbox exclusive. imagine playing an rts on a console lmao.
>>1777185>selling the legacy Deity Portraits for extraeven venus?>>1777186holy>>1777225...
Woked.
>wished so hard for a new age of mythology>monkey paw listen>we get thismy bad anons
>>1777186I mean, Prometheus looked like garbage in the original too, but that is not an excuse to making shit in a different way.
>>1777242You need a Microsoft account, so it basically is.
>>1777222People need to stop hoping for remasters altogether, or at the very least expecting them to turn out differently than they have been. The industry has changed since these games were first developed. The current crop of game designers, artists etc will never be able to capture the original tone of these games. Not only has the culture changed too much, game studios are too diluted by diversity hires so the talent will never be there again. I can install the original Age of Mythology + Titans on my modern PC and play it just fine.
>>1777264it depend , Nightdive for exemple put actual good remaster because they understand that all you really need to do is get the graphic up to date and maybe put a few QOL but without changing the core of the game , but yeah the majority of studios dont know how to fucking do a proper one
>>1777266Nightdive is based, but sometimes I worry they are too faithful. Like the original Thing game was shit, and the sequel to it that got cancelled was looking much better, but Nightdive is doing a faithful remaster of trash rather than bringing it up to where it should have been if not for development problems.
>>1777266>>1777268Weird to see people calling Nightdive based, I've seen people in the retro FPS fandom shit on them the way people are shitting on this AoM remaster
>>1777225bullshit but I believe it
>>1777270Because these guys aren't pasionate about boomer shooters so Nightdive is based to themLikewise boomer shooter fans who don't care about RTS that much probably think AoM Retold looks like a good remaster.
>>1729613The hand on the right has 5 fingers you're just blind.
>>1745754obviously AI generated only 4 fingers on his right hand
>>1777299The little finger is hidden because of the angle
>>1777301Heh sure, now what prompt did you use for it?
>>1746584Just for you
>>1777294>>1777166NOOOOO IT'S SIX FINGERS YOU ARE JUST SHILLSThe remaster sucks so much, trust me!!! Just like the Atlantean civilization!!! I know so much about the game, keep trusting me!It's all doom and gloom don't you dare consider anything positive about this because I want it to fail
>>1777125>>1777100It's five fingers, with the lowest one having its underside illuminated by lightning. Count the knuckles.
>>1777308Believe me when I tell you I want nothing more for it to be good. but things are looking really fishy
>>1777308The guy who keeps crying about Atlantis is a huge faggot
>>1777178>Rabbi laughs at polytheists and their icons. Makes Shekels while doing so.Super Jewish indeed!
>>1724914>pointy replaced with balloonsit never even began
>>1777354Polytheists all abandoned their beliefs except for Hindus, why is that?
>>1777394>except for hindusAnd the east asians.
>>1777394Hindus are arguably pseudo-polytheists. Matryoshka religion.
>>1777396East Asians gave up theirs for atheism and Buddhism
>>1777402That's wrong, though. The majority of China is folk religion, their 'state atheism' is a lie, and Japan resisted Buddhism so hard they only care about it when it comes to funerals.
>>1777402Buddhism isn't even close to being the most popular religion in china or Taiwan, and in Japan it's a mix of Shinto and Buddhism. Only Koreans abandoned their religions for wide spread atheism.
>>1777404>That's wrong, though. The majority of China is folk religionChina is officially an atheist state and "folk religion" is lumped into the same category for demographic purposes>Japan resisted Buddhism so hard they only care about it when it comes to funeralsJapanese people are overwhelmingly atheistic, their only interaction with Shintoism is in festivals, you might as well consider everyone who celebrates Valentine's Day a Christian
>>1777406>>1777406>>1777406>China is officially an atheist stateHe was right, that is a complete lie and you would know this if you ever bothered looking into it. you're just showing your blatant ignorance about this subject matter. The Chinese are not Atheist, that is a giant meme.
>>1777408https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_in_China>According to a 2012 Gallup poll, 47% of Chinese people were convinced atheists, and a further 30% were not religious. In comparison, only 14% considered themselves to be religious.[9] More recently, a 2015 Gallup poll found the number of convinced atheists in China to be 61%, with a further 29% saying that they are not religious compared to just 7% who are religious.[10]uh oh you're retarded!
>>1777410>english wikipedia>chinese folk religion / non-religiousI knew you were going to post this retardation and you shouldn't call anyone else an idiot for posting this garbage. The fucking study lumps religious people and non religious people into the exact same category and you're actually citing this as evidence to you being right.You are an idiot.
>>1777411You got caught out and will not show anything to support your statement. Slither away with no argument, retardo.
>>1777414>>1777410> With the improved instruments in the 2018 China Family Panel Studies, we first observe that nearly 50% of respondents claim to have multiple (two or even more than three) religious beliefs and the believers of folk religion account for about 70% of the population.>>1777414>Slither away with no argument, retardo.Yeah, you should take your own advice, you fucking dumbass.
>>1777417>none of the data contradicts the earlier poll>none of that "religious belief" or "folk religion" necessarily implies any belief in gods, vague as it isatheism won in china as in most of europe and the rest of asia, you lost, keep doubling down on retardation
>>1777178>make the new art almost universally garbage>sell the original as a separate DLC
>>1777420So you not only don't know what Chinese folk religion is but you don't even understand the issue with the earlier polls, which were international and poorly worded, this it didn't properly describe to the users what religiousness even meant.>new study says 70% of them are religious>old foreign one says only 18% are the same>retard says this is identicalYup, you are, in fact, a retard. Congratulations.The funniest part about this is you posted a wikipedia article and didn't even read the sources> "China hopes Mazu, a sea goddess, can help it win over Taiwan">yet the retard says they don't believe in spirits or gods, despite the fact that this is what their folk religion is
>>1777422So you like shit like Stormgate then?
There is no creativity anymore. AoM was already made, and it was a great game.DON'T TOUCH ITInstead, make a crazy new first person shooter/RTS hybrid with ancient gods living in the modern world, or some shit. Like anything new. Any random idea works. Just stop recycling the same shit and making it worse while trying to sell it based on brand recognition. They do this with every franchise, across every entertainment industryI am sick of it, BE ORIGINAL
>>1724914might as well do a low-denoise upscale and call it a day
>>1777436Gonna touch it beacuse is a better option that the other RTSs "wanna be harcode micro garbage" like Shitgate.kys with love
>>1777422While that's the most scummy part let's not forget the other 3: >you have to pay extra to play the game week ahead of others >we don't know if we can buy the expansion separately (and not to mention that most of it is over 20 year old content). >We are only getting bits of new content through single separate DLC.Like the only thing to top this off to full Corpo is by adding microtransactions for skins a la CS:GO steam gambling.
>>1777441target demographic right here
>>1777443You welcome fatso.
>>1777436>Cyber-merc AnubisSee I would say this slop is alright... if the gun barrel was actually functional.AI-chan needs more training!
>>1777434Is this a sincere argument or are you serious? Why would not liking a shitty business practice like holding better original hostage, mean that you have to like another shitty game. Shitting on one thing does not mean liking another unrelated thing.
>>1777208>posoydon statue similar or even smaller than the colossusGood God, how do you fuck up this hard
>>1777450And here we go again with the shitty ideology of "It doesn't matter what you say, you are an idiot and the Internet is smart" when clearly in recent years it has been demonstrated how infested with low idiotic lives the Internet is.
>>1777186
>>1777461I know, a mud golem has that kind of face. Amazing anon, I know.
>>1777453It's definitely smaller, you can tell. but I think the issue is a mixture of problems. It seems like the colossi are too big more than anything, but the Statue of Poseidon is also too small.
>>1777186What is this suppose to be? Is it Kronos? Because I don't think it's Prometheans like >>1777253 or a mud golem >>1777466 says, due to the flaming fists.If this is actually the Atlantean titan (due to the fact that it's holding a hoplite like the original) it's a major downgrade. It doesn't even have the crystals!
They fixed that fucking bullshit one time use god powers mechanic which made me not want to play original game at all.
>>1777478I think it's supposed to be Prometheus. The campaign titan one, not the minor god portrait.
>>1777487>they "fixed" something that the original game was perfectly balanced aroundFuck off, secondary.
>>1777492I didn't want to play that game because of that retarded feature.>perfectly balanced aroundThere are a ton of better balanced games with powers on cooldown. The thing where you have one shot to use pretty useless powers makes no sense, fuck off.
>>1777478Bro, the atlantean titan appeared before Prometheus in the trailer,Did you even bother to watch the trailer, dumbfuck?
>>1777502
>>1752337>A remake of an old good idea isn't guaranteed to be good either, and fucking up and ruining a remake is worse for your reputation than releasing a bad new game 99% of the time.AoE 2 de goodStarCraft 1 remake goodC&C remake goodWarcraft 3 reforged bad3 good vs 1 bad"Remake is good" win
>>1752337That and also it kinda cannibalizes your market in reverse. So if your remade old shit is good, many people won't bother to buy your new shit; which is basically what happened to AoE4, at least in competitive play. I mean if the revenue from the old shit is still big enough it'll justify it, but generally remakes don't see growth towards a new market as it's catering to nostalgia. The demographic will be old now 30-year or near old gamers, and not the zoomers or alphas.
>>1725418>Meanwhile there are a lot of old good ideas left to rot.you speak like a shareholder, do old movies rot? Can you not watch an old movie and appreciate it for what it is? Star Wars Ep 7 was so fresh and good compared to Ep 4 right? It was good and worked so why wouldn't it work again?I still play un-remastered Brood War and Warcraft 3 because they're excellent games, and they certainly don't fucking rot because video games are not perishables you dumb fucking retard directly responsible for the downfall of the medium
>>1777208>>1777453They didn't even try
>>1777487pandoras box
>>1777571Another case of "looks way better that the old, I cannot masturbate ever again"
>>1777178>charging for classic portraitsThis a new low even for the gaming industry.
I don't mind AI art at all, on the contrary I look forward to it, but at the moment it still lackluster in some areas so not getting at least ONE person to fix some issues with the art is just stupid.
>>1777178>7 day EA for premium versionfuck those turbo kikes
so old portrait is the time limited dlc ?
>>1777513Sc1 and cnc weren't remakes. They where just HD versions. Nothing aside from visuals changed.Aoe2 a d wc3 did major changes to the point where they almost are new games.
>>1777574>I cannot masturbate ever againTo be fair for the original quote, that's mostly because once it's HD you can see all the flaws in the porn actress compared to 480p. Not connected to the bad remake of AoM anyway, just wanted to add trivia. >>1777702>so not getting at least ONE person to fix some issues with the art is just stupid.I think they did have a guy fixing it (assuming this was AI generated first), like the hand on >>1729613. However, they could of hired the lowest tier for the lowest price, so the artist missed, couldn't, or did not care to fix other glaring issues (headband for example on the same pic).
never played this one, is this worth for the campaign?
>>1777805The original base game was pretty alright for the campaign. Have good cinematic moments inspired by 90~2000s swords and sandals renaissance, especially if you're into ancient myths. Expansion campaign not as much excitement, but still pretty alright for the time.
>2 unnanounced DLC with season passGonna be Chinks and second will be that Aztec mod made official im calling it
>>1777811If the devs keep sun wukong as a chinese god it's just going to cement the fact that they aren't even trying, lol.
>>1777787What "porn actress"?
Some gameplayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw4AY42Ku2A
>>1777861I wish he’d shut up.
>>1777908i know, but what matters is the gameplay itself. It gives me AoEIII:DE vibes
>>1777805The original Age of Mythology has a great campaign with a lot of “Best of” moments. Trojan war, the Osiris Myth, Ragnarok, and of course Atlantis. I’d say it’s worth it for the campaign. The expansion with separate Atlantean civilization is kind of not good in my opinion.
I jusy hope the new DLC will actually do shit instead of just the same AoE game mechanics. I can't think of any non blizzard game that has mechanics like creep or pylon power. I think this would be a great opportunity for them to add in mechanics people generally don't use and to experiment with new stuff.
>>1777913make sense its on the same engine
>>1777503Is this worse than reforged?
>>1777861ok, gameplay looks fine, but I hate the AO4 UI, and it seems all in-game cutscenes looks like ass.
>>1777926nah, you actually have to actively sabotage your game to go that low
>>1777926>Fag who thinks that Reforged was "bad", to join the "wanna be cool internet club"
>>1777930Of all the people, the spanish schizophrenic that nobody likes had to be the one who would put the gameplay first.
>>1777937my honest reaction
>>1777946The only faggot who could be bribed cheaply enough to speak good about this trash fire.
>>1777955And you join him to think that the game "looks like trash".Good job.
>>1777954
>>1777861
>>1724914Video games are a visual medium. If the visuals in a game are stolen art ai slop then there is no problem with pirating the game.
>>1777989Between that logic, and how full of malware pirated games are in this decade, fucking normal that no one takes people like you seriously.
>>1777993>and how full of malware pirated games are in this decadeskill issue
>>1777996Skill isue to waste millions buying 9 PCs full of viruses, right?kys by rape anglo
>>1777997go gargle on corporate cock Rasheedbuy an ad
>>1777998shut up and go back into the gulagnobody trust you shit genepool anymore
>>1777998>corpo bad, buaah buaah
>>1777998>go gargle on corporate cock RasheedWut
>>1777861The UI looks fucking awful and the voice acting sucks.
>>1778026Thanks.Next one to join the "Wanna be cool in internet Club" please?
>>1777503>>1777478I always hated this Titan design. Atlanteans were such a weird faction, if you knew anything about history you could tell half of it was from either Rome or the Medieval period. I guess that made them seem "advanced", but instead they were just bizarre.
>>1778044Really out of place mythology as well, being greek #2Language was sort of asian sounding but none of the words had any logic.
>>1778044It didn't make any sense and I'm pretty sure it was originally supposed to have been Rome and China but both got scrapped and what was there was just turned into Atlantis.
>>1777993is this english?>>1777997what? just know what you're downloading and installing. if you aren't retarded the only malware you'll get are the ones the developers put in the games on purpose>>1777999lol pajeet is angry and confused. still waiting on your genetics to get to wheel stage of civilization>>17780301cm of cow shit has been deposited to your mudhut
>>1777954God damn, I hate the Warcraft aesthetic and all that it entails.
>>1778200We mvst retvrn.
>>1777702why would you look forward to soulless bland AI art?
>>1777919aoe3 techincally has creeping, even though it sucks
let's hope they rework atlanteans and give them pic rel
>ZEUS BLESSES YOU WITH THE METEOR GOD POWERMobile-tier soulless slop.
>>1778252You mother is truly a mobile-tier soulless slop.
>>1778044>bizarre>a fictional myth faction
>>1778114You meds anon.
Units looked really plasticine like in Reforged in the zoomed in part of the trailer but they look okay in that beaner's gameplay video, no need to go feral over it I think.The worst fears for me right now are the AI slop portraits and omega-Jewish monetization scheme, you just know they'' strike down any mod restoring the old portraits.
>>1777474I'm ok with the colossi being colossal, but the poseidon statue itself should definitely be bigger since it is the final boss and all. If anything I just don't like the proportions of the colossi, I feel like they are too squat, but it doesn't look as off as some other units. Strangely enough the prometheans have the exact opposite problem of being WAY too skinny compared to their originals, and those were my favorite units.And I liked their giant fist they formed when attacking too. But it could be a interesting direction for them to go down if the Alluvial Clay upgrade lore plays into it like giving them metal skeletons or some shit I don't know.
Gonna miss Gaia. I wish I could slap the devs.
>>1778275>Roman gladiator archetypes as main infantry>Heavy cavalry uses lances made out of stone>Biremes are actually less advanced than triremes>Myth units are all from Greek myth other than one from Hebrew mythYes, they're bizarre.
>>1777002game is runiedwe realy need a good moding community for AOM like that of age of the ring for BFME
I am worried about Aphrodite.
>xboxare there really retards who will play RTS on a controller?
>>1777190it's literal AI slop art. you'll now get AIslop assets and they'll charge you for hand crafted shit lmao. how devilish
>>1778342Not my Gaia
Plant Gaia got me questioning my loyalty to Zeus, bros.
>>1778501Dave.
>>1778498They didn't make the egyptian gods black so the worst was averted.
>>1778625I want to see Cronus next
>>1778738The model is in the demo.
>>1778586It's about the 3d model, anon.
Holy fucking shit, this voice acting is atrocious. https://youtu.be/2IgVdqcdcpU?si=vt6lDtt_E9zfbifC&t=6
>>1778932I can only hope Athena is just a random intern they got some voicework out of for the demo.
>>1778934[insert World of Warcraft Troll laughter here]
>>1778934It isn't even just Athena's voice, all voices that wasn't reused sound mediocre at best. But hers was definitely the worst. The god power effects are also extremely weak. Compare the lightning storm power in that footage at 3:10 to the original.https://youtu.be/GCaKhlOkaJ0?si=cTLYcGBA1Y-RAgdv&t=77It actually manages to look worse.
>>1778938That's not the original but it still looks better. https://youtu.be/2KXOgTEe7gI?si=sFaDM_Kk5tFbhiMZ&t=19
>>1777861clash of clans 2 looks great
>>1777861WHY does it look so cartoony? Even some of the big god powers look awful the lighting storm looks like sperm and the meteors look like farts.
>>1778918nta both portrait and model are terribad they could've gone for a solid middle ground and made her look like poison ivy knock off but now she's a myth unit just so they don't upset the wokes
>>1778951Welcome to ZOG art and culture
>>1777908That's you're average spic yapping like a parrot
At least all the faults look pretty easily to mod out.
>>1778951Because they're higher def models of the same core lower def models. Before your brain filled in the details and now there's nothing to fill in so you're brain sees the basic 2000s model in truth and they look cartoonish
>>1778994or they're just fucking crap and look less detailed despite being newer tech >>1777208
>>1778994That's part of the issue, yes, but it's also that those missing details were filled in the worse way possible.The bigger issue is that aesthetically, the game cannot decide if it wants to go for the stylized look or the realistic look, so they both clash and we get the worse of both worlds.
Kronos in the original art
>>1779008Kronos's original 3D model
>>1779012
>>1779008>>1779014Current Kronos model in the remake.Can you spot the problem?
>>1779014>Giga Nigga has escaped!>Only quads can stop him.
>>1778327The scaling felt off for a lot of the units, make giants big but the rest should be small.>>1778972Why should I buy again for a game that looks worse than an early 2000's game
>>1779018Too many polygons to masturbate in peace?
>>1779018Yes.It looks like throwaway elemental mob from World of Warcraft
>>1779008>>1779014>>1779018I never understood the association with Kronos and a magma man.
>>1779018>>1779008They both look awful. Not going to defend the remaster model but original Kronos is shit, too.This shitty remaster shouldn't exist, I regret wanting this years ago.
>>1779057You kind shouldn´t exist more like it.
>>1779046He's supposed to be evil so the devs just decided that he needed to look like a giant mountain with lava even though that doesn't make any sense.
>>1779046Villain syndrome.The evil enemy has to look evil Normally it's Hades who gets hit by this.
>>1779061Hades was handled far better than Kronos was. He's menacing and somewhat evil looking but looks like you could see him looking for an Olympian. Kronos doesn't resemble a Titan at all. He looks extremely generic and thematically out of place.
I always knew this "retold" bullshit was only going to add pointless changes to the original, when the main sell point of a remaster is the nostalgia you get FROM said original.
>>1779018Why purple light instead of molten lava like the art?
>>1779018In the cinematic he's a big chunk of fiery, shadowy ash creature hurling meteors>>1779014in the game he looks like big black lizard man>>1779008artwork's a vulcanic manbut in retold its broken rock with purple glow for some stupid reason
>>1778972>gonna pay for the same game twice AND spend months modding it to a playable state
>>1779165Why not just make YouTube video all by yourself? Feel to me like a better option than collaboration with a stranger. And I don't think there are any big aom youtubers anyway so it's not like would will get way more exposure.
>>1779177We've thought about making a channel but we can't video edit among other things.As it relates to this case, none of us play AoM so we'd want to work with somebody who knows the game/series too
>>1779046Because the main campaign had you go into 3 different instances of an underworld with black volcanic ground and sea of magma to stop a cyclop from opening the gates to tartarus.
>>1779165There is already a mod that includes the Aztec civilization, Return of the Gods.
>>1779360I'm aware, but afaik they're also a very popular choice for an official expansionI glanced at the AoM mod once, seemed solid, though I didn't give it an in depth look since I wanted to offer to help out but they were done by the time I heard about it IIRC.
>>1725021>>1725022Nice League of Legends artworks
>>1779467Draven chads rise up
blizzard and marvel have done irreparable cultural damage to the entire industry
>>1725351bullshit. its AI.
>>1779502>blizzard and marvel have done irreparable cultural damage to the entire industryMarvel? To RTS genre too? How?!
>>1779534NTA. I think anon just means in art design and copy-paste cinematic storytelling. Art-wise it's arguable, because the American superhero style was a thing even before the MCU. Blizzard is definitely a source for spreading Mcfarlane/Spawn aesthetics (i.e. over exaggerated torso, big ass pauldrons, etc.), but there were other RTS doing it before albeit less exaggerated.Story-wise it's more pronounced, as post-2008 there's like more and more plots that just goes grand without the characters catching up to it. Also there's less the "faction as a character," which was a main complaint for Homeworld 3 recently. Like less AoE2 "I'm playing the army of Saladin, Wallace, etc" and more like "I'm the fucking chosen one. "
PFFFFFHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>1779008Looks more like burned flesh than stone.
>>1779686No, he's clearly made of rock and his titan model also shows this. The lava should have made this obvious.
>>1779701Where?>>1779014
>>1779729That image. Is this a joke? Hit head, torso, and parts of his arms and legs are clearly made of rock. It even resembles some stone textures found in the editor. His portrait is obviously supposed to resemble cooled lava with a heated center.
>>1779005They have to add far more polygons to create the same illusion of detail for these newer higher def models. That is just unfeasible in a game where most things will be seen from far away. AOE3 DE has the exact same issue.
>>1779177>>1779360>>1779188>>1779365>>1779360I'm reposting because the mods/jannies got iffy about the image of Coyolxauhqui despite the fact it was as tastefully nude (actually less nude) as a greek statue and deleted the post:Mesoamerican history and archeology nerd here, if I and my friends wanted to work with a Youtuber to make a video about the potential for an Aztec pantheon, what youtubers talk about AoM stuff and would likely be into the historical/cultural influences of stuff?
>all this whining about AI art>no comments about how the economy part of the RTS practically plays itselfwhat is wrong with you people
>>1745684the entire theme for retold screams cartoony capeshit
the "remastered" legacy portraits are AI upscaled aren't they.
>>1779793what about the barebones looking textures they didn't put any effort in them both far away and up close they look like shit
>>1779817Holy shit look at the amount of detail loss in the shoulder pads and helm also loss of contrast and it looks soft af
>>1779817Nah, the small details are too temporally consistent, while bigger stuff like the shape of the face is different. With an upscale/outpaint it'd be the opposite. Bad details but 1:1 on the basic shapes
>>1779810It's for modern audiences you bigot. Go back to EE.
>>1779810What the god damn fuck is this?
>>1779817Wow they couldn't even keep his eyes the same color, or in the same position.
>>1779821Isn't it only supposed to have the head of a man? What's with the bird and goat?
>>1779823It's a redraw, you can tell by the differences
>>1779853>The Sphinx's upgrades (and mythology section) refer to ram-headed and falcon-headed Sphinx units, but no visual change occurs, the Sphinx remaining an Androsphinx.
>>1779817>Couldn't be arsed to look for the original art for a high resolution scan, or worse, the original physical art is lost.Things just keep getting worse
>>1779810Who asked for this
>>1779817>>1779817Ironically, upscales could have looked better than that
>>1779871The same people who wanted automatic villager production. Now the game can play itself, but even more this time.
I don't like it
>>1779912Yeah, this looks terrible. What the hell is this crap?
>>1779871they made this for controllers (since they decided the consoles were apparently a RTS market for age games now)
>>1779917WHY DOES THE ATLANTEAN TITAN LOOK MORE LIKE KRONUS THAN KRONUS?
>>1779915the game is not played zoomed in like this you dumb retards
>>1779794I only know Universidad AOM and Mayorcete who keep talking about AOM and such. Everyone else I know is mostly AOE2-centered.
>>1779925THEN WHY SHOWCASE IT LIKE THAT???
>>1779936looks like the turkish invasion happened a few centuries earlier. swarthy and barbaric
>>1779938this remaster is literally white genocide
>>1779938>>1779940the remake has fallen millions must cry
>>1779810built in scripts amazing
>>1779912>Toys R us AoM edition
>>1779936
>>1779871/vst/ asked for this, they complain when they have to do more than 1 input per 5 seconds
>>1779810lmao, this is almost mobile auto battler tier, the schizo who spams gookclick in every rts thread can be happy haha
>>1779936Using the low quality model for the 2002 is a bit disingenuous, isn't it?
>>1779977>>1779936He needs a fatter face.
>>1779936Greek civ next to upcoming India civ
So China is confirmed to be in the first expansion. Overall I like what they have shown us as long as the training wheels economy mode isn't actually overpowered and just training wheels for noobs.Some units look too cartoony but oh well.
>>1779810Nice, managing villagers get tedious after some time, I'd rather focus on the armies.
>>1779923>Egyptian TitanAvatar of Rah>Greek TitanCerberus>Norse TitanYmir>Atlantean Titan??????????
I wonder how they plan to balance wonder age. If you need to mainly pump out more favor then Norse/Loki end game looks frightening, despite no Earthquake/Meteor/Implosion power.
>>1779936Kinda looks like natalie portman but with grey eyes
>>1780090i think it's just going to be an unlock for the wonder like titan age, and you have to pick one of the two
What civ generate most favor?
>>1779938>>1779940what the fuck are you talking about, that's literally how greeks look like>inb4 migrant photos
>>1780175Need to pay extra to use the older supperior images, what a time to be alive.
>>1780183Zionist occupied vidya
>>1780183What a time to be really alive reading about retards like you indeed.
>>1780225Take Microsoft's dick out of your mouth before you post
>>1780137Atlanteans. They begin to generate favor the second the match starts.
>>1780183>>1780175Lmao, this is fucking unreal. They're actually making people pay to use the older images. I hope this crap flops, and I hope the people that do buy it just use mods
The patron god of the Greek pantheon was ejected. He wasn't the Impostor, but he was still Zeus
>>1780249Take the blue haired twins cocks in you mouth. How about that instead shit of man?
>>1780249Still mad that Microsoft, after "buying" Blizzard, still hasn't done anything with Starcraft 2, right anon?
>>1780249What if you threw yourself naked into a herd of goats and they raped you to death?
>>1779810this shit right here is going to revolutionize RTS games, this is the next big step for the genre but this system is still early.its going to change build orders drastically and will allow for more and earlier scouting and battles MICRO gameplay wich is the good stuff in most famous and e-sports RTS, sucks for macro players tho
>>1780306>>1780306But enough about your personal sexual fantasies.
I assumed they would start adding gods when they showed the new art for loki and poseidon, since one recurring criticism of the chinese faction was how bad the art looked in comparison to the original.So Freyr will be a minor god or major? I'm asking because they put Oceanus alongside the major gods in the trailer which makes me wonder if he's being upgraded to major god. Like if you wanted to add a fourth faction to each civ Oceanus would be the obvious choice for the Atlanteans as the second most important Titan. But Freyr would be an odd choice compared to his father, Baldr, Surtr, Hela or even he's own sister.
>>1780313>turning an RTS into a glorified moviegame that plays itself will revolutione RTS gamesgo play civilization or some other slow-paced or turned based game, slowfag
>>1780358That's Oranos, 100% sure of it. It doesn't make sense for them to stick in a single random minor god alongside most of the major gods in the game.
>>1725056>as if AI pixels and human directed pixels are any differentYou retards act like artists dont specifically paint like this cause they chase trends. AI just made it more apparent how soul-less the art scene actually is thanks to clout chasing.You want soul? Seek canvas paintings irl. Fuck sake you sheep really do parrot what your heckin fav art youtuber bitches about huh?
>>1780392Shut the fuck up, pajeet. It's not even about style, it's about glaringly obvious mistakes that a human would never do because a human knows what it wants to draw instead of leaving it as "the algorithm recognises this pattern of pixels, so it's good enough".
>>1780380Not him but it's obviously Oceanus, go look at his god portrait in The Titans expansion. But I'm not going to assume he's turning into a major god in the remaster. It's probably nothing.
>>1780407I know what Oceanus looks like, and I'm not convinced especially after they turned Gaia into groot. It gives me the feeling they're giving all the Titans gods a less human appearance, at least the major ones.I guess we'll have to see if they end up dropping more info or when the game releases.
>>1780407those do NOT look like fins
>>1780415>>1780413Why would Ouranos looks like a fish? He's associated with the sky / heavens and not the ocean.>but he doesn'tThe one posted earlier does, you can see the obvious fish scales along the arms and the webbed hands along with what looks like a fish tail. That's obviously Oceanus. The portrait pose is even in the same general position and has the same color scheme, so I don't know why this is even being questioned.
>>1780175>The 'HD' touch upFucking embarrassing Someone contact David Cherry and tell him they're butchering his art
>>1780422do you have more of those?
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I don't even understand why we need AI upscaling of images that have perfectly fine details.
>>1780435>see through dress>subtly visible booba>fully exposed navelthis pic is better than I remember it no wonder they went with shitty no effort AI slop the originals can neither be replicated or outdone all the talent is gone with it we are back in the dark ages
>>1780437i have no doubt whatsoever that retold is going to shit all over this design
>>1780435I legit spilled so much spunk to this back in the day
For comparison
>>1780526Perfectly shows how the new one is a cheap mockery and literally pales in comparison to the original still it makes me fume how they have the gall to charge for the shit on the top left when they should have just used the high quality ones on the right
>>1780526>the amount of detail lost on the armor's engravingwhat a travesty, it would have literally cost them nothing just to just slap a crop of the art on the right instead of doing this ai upscale slop
>>1780526>give the intern 5 bucks and tell him we'll credit him so he can put it in his resume
>>1778932that can't be fucking real. that has to be some placeholder voice while they get Carole Ruggier into the studio
>>1780137Zeus 200 villagers on temples
I thought this was /vst/ not /ic/.
>>1777497have you considered gitting gud? these powers are pretty strong. most of them at least.
>>1780601Consider it a crossover episode
>>1780601Well... I mean quality presented aethetically doesn't really give us confidence that they'll uphold it for the gameplay either. Plus, scummy marketing (>>1777178) and mysterious incompetance on just using the upscaled art when HD version exsist already (>>1780526). So yeah... 99% this is gonna be shit in everyway.
>>1779680>using AI to detect AIlol
>>1780392you don't deserve good things and i hope that you'll get fired from your job and replaced by a machine
>>1780526>turning the three hoplites fighting from the helmet into a flower>a fucking flower>turns the bull skull into literal mushLiterally what the fuck is going on with the sleeves as well?How the fuck is it even possible to be this incompetent?
>>1780644Don't be mean. The AI worked very hard.
>>1780526What's even going on here?
>>1722101>Age of Mythology Retold>(((Retold)))
I knew we were fucked when that whale pronounced "prostagma" with her disgusting fat bitch accent when presenting the models a few months back.
>>1780672Don't bother anon, complaining is a sport on 4chan.
>>1780422I'd legit hang this on my wall if I could
>>1780689>I'd legit hang this on my wall if I couldFunny thing. They seem to had an auction for the actual arts decades ago. So it's likely that microsoft in their incompetence did not keep any referential backups (either analog or digital) and have to resort to scuffed waifu upscaling due to actual data loss.
>>1780678I don't think you understood what he saidlurk more perhaps
>>1725415Woke are the policies that led to the hiring of incompetent artists and writers to get to a point where you need computers to write your dialog or draw your pictures.
>>1780694And I don´t think you fucks will ever understand what "context" even means at this point.Consume less drugs perhaps.
>>1780526The "AI slop" has less shadows that the "original".And for that you all had to act like a declaration of war?
>>1780708who the fuck is shilling this slop on a board with like 1000 posters max
>>1780671A sword in the shoulder, passing behind a head.Problem blindfuck?
>>1780709You mother
>>1780671Way better quality that the AI generated """anime""" art, that´s for sure.
>>1780693>Trust me bro, I had legit contacts
>>1780708where do you think we are?
>>1780718In real life, obviously.(Not like you kind and the LGBT garbage, who believe that without artificial reproduction technology, their ideology will prosper)
>>1780715can it, jeet
>All this AI Slop>Blood texture, corpses and skeletons are most likely going to be removed because "le gorey">Revoicing the campaigns>Chinese confirmed as the first DLCI think I'll save my bucks for the German rework of HOI4...
>>1780671AI doesn't actually understand where the sword ends and the beard begins nor how hidden objects are supposed to be shaped.
>>1780740that's the OG portrait, dumbass
>>1780745No it isn't
>>1780745Nta, but >>1780740 is speaking on the upscaled image where the AI had to fill in the blanks for the original low-res icon. As you can see here >>1780526 the AI just used a clover shape to make up for the original lion decor of the hilt's crossguard.
>>1779936Arkantos looks pretty faithful to his FMV-self.
>>1780745It's amazing how easily shills will spew out obviously false statements like this. They don't care about making a fool of themselves. They only care about feeling good that they defended le hecking wholesome corporation online.
>>1780712Posting on 4chan when the fields aren't tilled yet, Ranjesh?
>>1781125>Cute anon thinks that I´m from India instead of Spain
>>1781216Oh so you're brown instead of browner. My bad.
>>1781216Deja de promocionar to canal de YouTube y haz algo productivo con tu miserable vida.
>>1779936>glowing eyes, not grey>no Aegis>no apotropaion>no panoplythey done my nigga ΑΘΗΝΑ wrong
>>1780435is that Blaire White?
>>1781245>toNice google translator
>>1781216>cuteD-do you mean it?
>>1781302No you fucking reatrd
>>1746559They're egyptian and theres a greek navy behind Poseidon. He's obviously killing niggas in a battle
>>1781479
I'm playing AoM extended edition and the campaign is a lot harder than I remember as a kid. Did they buff the difficulty?
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>>1780451just messing around
more upscales for the lulz. i could do this all day but work
>>1781974Roided up Thor
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>>1781965>>1781974Soulless
>>1782016This one's ari.
>>1781965it's like they actually don't understand how egyptian depictions of their gods worked.
>>1779794Dominions
vulome
>>1782015I never understood what's that supposed to be.
>>1781965that's ra retard
My friend wants me to learn this game so we can play together but I have never played it or anything like it. My only experience with strategy games is playing Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri and some old KOEI games.How long does it take to learn this game and play at a decent level?
>>1782680You can get the gist of it in a few hours if you play the campaign.Getting GOOD at it, or even decent, is gonna take a while longer. Gotta learn build orders and shit to not get raped in the ass.Unless you're doing coop vs AI, in which case just the campaign should be enough.
>>1782680honestly, just pirate it and give it a whirl if you're used to turn-based games, the real time aspect will be the hardest thing to get used to like most RTS it's really easy to get the gist, but improving the execution is what gets you
>>1782680>>1782716play the campaign to get a feel for it, then some skirmishes against the computer.
>>1782019>That Trojan HorseImagine missing the point this hard
>>1783261wdym?
>>1783275It's supposed to look like a peace offering, why does it have spears sticking out and shields attached to it?
>>1783276What about giving up your equipment to the enemy doesn't say "peace offering"?
>>1783304The part where the tip of the spears are pointed up, anon.
>>1783306So? On the horse's head? How is that going to be an offensive measure? As long as Trojans believe that the horse is empty (kek) and it's not manned from the outside, it's just decorations. If they were pointing outwards at infantry level, sure. Pointing up on the head, nah.
>>1783276are you blind or just retarded? The new one has food, drink, and materials on it, too at the base. It very clearly looks like a peace offering
