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>>195013I know it's fiction, But Kyokushin guys can move this fluidly instead of just pushing forward with punches?>https://youtu.be/l1UhDBURW-s?si=8640xShZ7N6Fu3e0
>>195032>Kyokushin guys can move this fluidly instead of just pushing forward with punches?No. (but Max Dedik in one interview said rules of IKO1 changed recently and fights became more maneuverable, but IDK)
met this guy personally at a state championship while he was taking a MASSIVE shit in the full-contact fighters bathroom
>>195304Lol, you talking about Eddie Emin or Max Dedik?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13349401/Karate-expert-fights-bear-kicking-face-attack-predator-runs-away-mountains-Japan.html
>>195401based as fuck
>>195401Based. I remember how I travelled to Japan and got lost in forest at night on my way to the inn, found some road and met the bell with sign "In case of bear attack ring the bell". Damn that was scary. It was like 10 km from the inn and I walked this road, cheked mail (because previously I emailed inn owner that I will be very late because I'm walking along a path through the forest) and inn owner mailed me back something like "Be careful because there are bears in the forests" and it scared me again. Finally I found bigger highway and a car stopped and some kind woman offered to give me a ride to the nearest city. I used some mix of japanese and english and said something like "kuma no mori, scary!" and she laughed and started nodding. It was near Nagiso
>>195447>kuma no mori, scary!https://youtu.be/ZAbPaQuvjIE?si=2HHHWtLM5IeMldBQOn that day mankind received a grim reminderhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sankebetsu_brown_bear_incident
Karate peaked in the K-1 years when kyokushin tried it's best to be kickboxing
Does anyone else compete, or want to compete? I train at the dojo three times a week, but my Shihan says to get truly in fighting shape, I need to train much more often, I already do weights and bodyweight exercises at lunch time in my work gym, but he says I need to find some more time on the heavy bag, even if it means training until late at night. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJCjyYB2I9cI was at this tournament last year, but in a different category, here are some highlights.>>195032It depends on the ruleset, the problem is with the timelimit, the size of tournaments, and the nature of tournaments themselves. People like Valeri win tournaments because they favour very economical movements that minimise effort, are extremely efficient, and highly effective. Valeri is boring as hell to watch but he's a scientist of Kyokushin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2aeVb_J2Wsthis fight is probably the most fluid kyokushin fight I can think of, but there are others. The last IKO tournament had some more springy fighters, but with the big tournaments very few early fights will go beyond the first round, so you have to get in there and go as hard and as fast as you can so the judges choose you. Perhaps one day there should be a more drawn out kyokushin tournament, no round limits, over a few days instead of just two.
>>195401Based Jap man
>>195454Kyokushin did that in the 1970s when Oyama opened up a Kickboxing gym that Terutomo Yamazaki (1st winner of the All Japan Kyokushin championship). When K-1 debuted, it was already built on Ishii's Seidokaikan challenge matches against other styles. He envisioned K-1 as a promotion to bridge all the fighting disciplines (regardless of whatever organization they were champions in) to compete under rules that they could successively utilize their techniques. Early K-1 allowed more knees to the clinch/neck-wrestling so long as it was continuous attack and not jockeying around for several seconds to gain decisive leverage and angles like Muay Thai does. This got dropped later on.
>>195454There's still hundreds of Japanese kickboxers who come from kyokushin karate backgrounds even today.
So you can attack the spleen by kicking someone's calfSo THIS is the power of karate!https://youtu.be/Q4jbXAA_nrs?si=jG9Fitw-lZpNPTBD
>>195401What's the best karate style to fight a bear?
Redpill me on hand conditioningWaste of time or important?
>>197481Mostly a waste of time. Firstly the time you need to contition them you could have been training techniques or endurance. Secondly if you really go down the conditioning route full force you will have an enlarged hand that got so hard its not able to do fine motorskills anymore. Additionally you get athritis. There is something to sometimes punching a sandbag to get a feeling for the correct bare nuckle technique, but more than that is just useless.
https://youtu.be/b-bFCXTCCMg?si=Tfs1d7orDfo_raYyKyokushin got canonised by Pride
Any kyokushin/kyokushin related live uchi-deshi/live-in student programs? Just quit my job and have a lot saved up.
>>197481It's real but not worth it for >99% of people, because how often do you actually have to hit something with an uncovered fist in your daily life? Even sports like kyokushin don't allow strikes to the head so it would only be worht it if you made a living doing something like lethwei or bare knuckle boxing. Even then those sports allow wrist wraps so... The consequence of going far enough in hand conditioning to be able to hit hard shit without any damage is having fucked up hands lol.https://youtu.be/qQzAYTOPeQM?si=rNi2Ky5SwK1XTrPBVhttps://youtu.be/65UY_8LuMKk?si=E2ZznbuMucAHCkK0
Kyokushin fighters and full contact enjoyers, what are your gym workouts?Is 3x5 a meme?
What's the difference between Shotokan and Shotokai?
>>198280That Chink dude's hands are all fucked, fucking insanity. Morio Higaonna uses some Chinese liniment to be able to do the hand conditioning he does until now.
>>198490iirc shotokai was founded by people who believed that they had deviated from Funakoshi's teachings, and thus they formed their own splinter organisation.
>>198490Shotokai is more spiritual/philosophical approach and Shotokan is a more sporty approach to Funakoshi's karate.Basically Shotokai is more like Funakoshi's karate trying to be in his early teachings and Shotokan is was his son Gigo and Nakayama teached in the late days of the old master.
>>197481Small amounts are good like doing knuckle pushups and hitting the bag barehanded but the whole iron sand esque stuff where you try to turn it into a brick where it's useless for anything but punches is just stupid.
>>198687I remember my Chinese shifu telling me to slap and backhand a tree a few times everyday alongside finger push ups to strengthen the fingers and for you to be able to use open hand techniques. None of that iron sand hand or finger fucking a jar of pebbles. I opted for slapping my punching bag instead. Supposedly this is a gradual process that takes years.
>>198049>instructor says he knows a few guys in Japan who could host me and that I should definitely do itWe're so back
>>198049Are you black belt? What dan? What's your competitional achievemnts? Just curious
What it's more valuable?A dozen of kyokushin fighters being successful in kickboxing (K-1) or one shotokan fighter (Machida) being successful in modern MMA?
>>198742>What's more valuable? Amerigoys or Japoids?
>>197481>>197515>>198280>>198687Pretty much. I got this out of a book on Okinawan Goju that one of my senseis gave me. Imagine walking around with that shit and having to explain it to everyone without looking like a dork.
