Just finished it as a Half-Oger technologist. Fucking incredible. Best rpg I've played in a long time.
why are a nazi
>>3479051>Half-OgerSorry but you and the gnomes aren't welcome here.
>>3479059What is it with rainbow haired faggots falling out of their rockers over Arcanum?Did I miss something? What about this game is triggering these far left retards?
>>3479051give it a rest zoom zoomno one cares about this ''cult classic'' garbage anymore, all e-celebs moved to jerking off the next turd CRPG
>>3479073Gnome hands typed this post.
>>3479059Redditors lost their minds over that image that shows a lot of inspiration/references over nazi figures in this game.>I-IT IS JUST A COINCIDENCE O-OK?!it was pretty funny to see
>>3479080NTA, but link or screencap? This is news to me, and I remember buying and playing this game back in the early oughts.
>>3479082
>>3479083this is the only reason /v/chuds pretend to like this garbage
>>3479083I don't see a problem with literally any of this.
>>3479083this is a really bad version of the image. here's a better res.
>>3479089>this is what chapocels actually believe
>>3479083This game is designed to mirror the atmosphere and style of the turn of the 19th century. All of these references make complete sense, especially since they were taken for inspiration. The idea behind Donn Throgg is also clearly a satirical reference to the fact that unions, which started off as noble endeavors, became co-opted by bad actors later, and is clearly foreshadowing the fall of Throgg's "activism" into a totalitarian regime in the future.This game was intended for 18+ year olds, who would be familiar with at least some of these references.
>>3479080Kek, does anyone have a reaction image of their meltdown?
>>3479097yeah, it was made by homos. you can even fuck a sheep in it, not exactly "based", but that image is a shitpost to cause a reaction. people just like the game because it's an interesting setting.
>>3479107>yeah, it was made by homos. you can even fuck a sheep in it,>current generation is so brain-broken stupid they interpret an obvious joke in a video game as a clear reference to the real loves and interests of the people who made itImagine unironically being this fucking stupid.
>>3479110i'm far older than you and since you can't even tell my post isn't serious, i'd "unironically" be careful throwing stones from your transparent abode.
>>3479110You're right. You would have to change sheep to children for it to make sense since Tim Cain is a homesexual aka a pedophile.
>>3479051Fun fact: inteligent humanoids in Arcanum come only in two colors: white and green. There simply aren't any other ones. That is some dedication.
>>3479115He does live in a country where child brides are both legal and are still being married of to adult men. Pedophilia is american national pastime.
>>3479121>child bridesNot really. There's only 4 states where this term could genuinely apply. For the rest of the 46 states, you have to be at least 16 years of age or older, the same age to drive in most states. For Kansas you can get married at 15.
>>3479051>Half-Oger technologistDid everyone treat you like a retard?
>>3479115sodomy and bestiality are the same degenerate filthpedophilia is a meme term, being attracted to sexy little girls is normal and only a faggot will deny this
What's a good gun build. I want to wear a power armor and use the biggest gun
>>3479051Just started playing this recently. It's my first isometric crpg and I'm having a good time, I had a few issues with using the map because I'm a brainlet but other than that I've had a really fun time doing the quests. I'm currently in Tarant and just recruited Magnus
I remember playing this 20 years ago and using techno-axes almost the whole game, what's the easy mage build
>>3479752>easy mage build Harm and willpower. That's it.
what do you guys think about the xp per hit mechanic? do you disable it with UAP or not?
>>3479791I am a min/maxer so probably would prefer to not have any follower over losing exp because of them. I check the max exp option in UAP + de uncap and then do thishttps://www.gog.com/forum/arcanum_of_steamworks_and_magick_obscura/editing_xp_levelmes_a_fairer_way_to_level_upto slow down the leveling and make it more fair. I already have to suffer a lot with how painfully bad the UI is and the lack of QoL features to even add more frustration like not using followers just because I want to max exp (it doesn't even make the game much harder in general, just slower)
>>3479749>It's my first isometric crpgWhy would THIS be your first isometric RPG? Wtf is wrong with you?
>>3479937>I am a min/maxer so probably would prefer to not have any follower over losing exp because of them.You can reach max level quite early without companions and then it's over.
>>3479969He's too based for his own good
>>3479994>basedI think "retarded" is the word you were looking for.
>>3480069Starting with Arcanum isn't a bad thing. Nowhere to go but up.
>>3479969Funny enough it was my first one as well if I remember correctly. My cousin had it in early 2000s for whatever reason.
>>3480109You somehow managed to skip both Diablo games?
>>3480116I was poor and mostly played what I could borrow. He didn't had diablo till about a year later or so.
>>3479716You should use an axe. Fuckface.
>>3480123I did that twice, I want to use guns now
>>3479969I heard good things about it and it was cheap on GOG. What's wrong with starting with it?
>>3480372Anon has autism, ignore him.I'd say most people would be surprised with Arcanum as a first entry. It's not really a game you just stumble on.
The only problem I have with this game is that it's really weirdly hard and I'm not really sure what I'm doing wrong. Most of it is easy but then it will throw something at you that wipes you and your party out.
>>3480375You're making me feel old. I remember seeing it on shelves in a game/toy store at a mall in the early 2000's and begged my parents to get it for me for Christmas. I don't think it was my very first, but it was one of my first isometric RPG's. Looked like it had a really cool steampunk fantasy setting.
>>3480389I would assume people who are just now getting in to RPG's wouldn't be old enough to see it hit the shelves. The point I was trying to make is that most people who know about Arcanum are probably fans of the developer or previous developers, and new people are more likely to see those more famous games like Fallout first. Arcanum is fairly nitch and wasn't a huge success for a variety of reasons.
>>3480386Invest in charisma and get as big of a party as you can. Get a dog. Or use turn based for hard encounters.
>>3480386>>3480442Also, I recommend heavily investing into explosives. They are super OP.
>>3479749I just recruited the dog. I wish I could name him :(
I noticed there's an option to turn auto-leveling off for the followers. Is that a vanilla option or does UAP do that? If it's an UAP thing, does it make the game too easy?
>>3479083The funniest thing is the picture makes no sense>Donn Throgg - half-Orc unionist and portrayed as a good man who stands up to oppressionOK, so half-Orcs are Nazis/brownshirts?>The Orcish Question outlines the inferiorities of the Orcish race and parallels the Jewish QuestionOK, so Orcs are Jews, what's wrong with the first poster then?>Gnomes are portrayed as miserly, greedy, and cruel, based on Jewish stereotypesWhat the fuck, so it's the Gnomes, not the Orcs that are Jews then?Fuck whatever faggot made this picture honestly
Where can I pirate this game? No, I'm not paying anything to Jew Old Games or Jewteam. I can't find it on 1337x and the Bay has been a malware infestation for a good 10 years now so
>>3479097>is clearly foreshadowing the fall of Throgg's "activism" into a totalitarian regime in the future.The ending slides make Donn Throgg's success into a positive thing.
>>3479089It's genuinely one of the greatest RPGs ever created. I doubt /v/ chuds would exalt the game otherwise considering a literal faggot was involved in its creation.The racist stuff is just a nice bonus really.
>>3480937>What the fuck, so it's the Gnomes, not the Orcs that are Jews then?The Orcs are niggers, Gnomes are Jews.I'm glad I could be of service anon, hope that clears it up for you.
>>3480983>The Orcs are niggersWrong, they are the white underclass. Ogres are blacks. Have you even played the game?
>>3481001Have you?
>>3481026Have you?
>>3481028Don't answer my motherfucking question with a question motherfucker.
>>3481031Indeed.
>>3481050Okay, how's this. The Orcs are niggers and Ogres are white people (golems) who serve at the behest of their Gnome (kike) masters. Better?
>>3481053No. Then the interbreeding doesn't make sense. Also, what are Elves? Or Dwarfs?
>>3481062>Or Dwarfs?Hassidic Jews.>what are Elves?Scandinavians.
>>3480939gog-games.to dumb nigger
>>3480372And you never heard anything good about Fallouts or Baldurs Gate or Neverwinter Nights before?
>>3479059If you’re white and not a nazi at this point you must be mentally insane.
>>3481281Define white for me please.
my favorite gameit's open, there's so much freedom, and i am allowed to approach quests the way i want to
>>3481297Mestizo, mullato, hapa. Brown people are the new white people.
>>3481281Define nazi for me please.
>>3481473The bad guys, chud
>>3481276I've played New Vegas, launched Baldurs Gate Dark Alliance but closed it after 5 minutes and I've never heard of neverwinter nights
>>3481473Someone who doesn’t have a negative amount of in-group preference.
>>3480982>I doubt /v/ chuds would exalt the game otherwise considering a literal faggot was involved in its creation.really showing you don't know much about anything "chud" like since half of them are faggots anyways.
>>3479051>Half-Oger That race was a good choice for you based on your inability to spell.
Any tips for a guy who just bought the game?Anything that can make the game as fun as possible
>>3481711Get the unofficial patch
>>3481711>Anything that can make the game as fun as possibleTurn basedHalf OgreMax dexMax strength MeleeLook up the magic schools and get all the OP shitHave fun
>make gunslinger>go to tarant>no bullets, no moneywhat am I doing wrong? should I make a gunslinger/thief hybrid instead?
>>3481856if you have a spare fate point, use it to steal ristezze's key. now you can replenish your money supply once per day
>>3481797>half ogreHang yourself you fucking nigger
>>3480982>It's genuinely one of the greatest RPGs ever createdIt's hard to take you seriously when you post bethesda shit
>>3481856Get a job and buy bullets.
>>3481856>what am I doing wrong?You're not playing the build I told you to play.
>>3481893>1 point in harm>49 points in fatigue
>>3479051Arcanum is isometric skyrim. It attracts retards who solely play goyslop, as evidenced by this thread.
>>3481902Not even you belive what you just said anon. Fight your inner autism
>>3481916I genuinely believe this. Arcanum is a retard game that is only praised in retard circles. Anyone who praises it immediately discredits themselves.
>>3481919>I genuinely believe thisNo, you don't.
>>3481919Bad bait.
>>3479051What is the correct build for diplomatic and high social skills MC? I heard it was boomerangs.
>>3481925Yes I do. Arcanum is a bad game and you'll see it praised in the circles that like new vegas, vtmb, gothic, and morrowind rather than actual rpgs. It's for people who only have a superficial interest in the genre at best.
>>3481935(You)
>>3481935(You) are a faggot
>>3481935>a list of games I haven’t played in decades because now all I do is play absolutely embarrassing slop
>>3481931For a diplomat you need high charisma and inteligence. You don't need combat skills. Everyone who you can't persuade will be murdered by your private army.
>>3481931>boomerangsThat's not very diplomatic.
>>3481931>What is the correct build for diplomatic and high social skills MC? I heard it was boomerangs.Anything really. Throwing is great, but I'd say throwing is best with tech because you can make grenades. That means explosives discipline and perhaps chemistry if you want to make more advanced grenades. Of-course if you go tech then you want the first three levels at least of Electrical, for Charged Rings and the Flow Spekctrometer. This gives you free +4 DX and Expert Spot-Trap. That +4 DX will get as standard character to rank 3 or Expert Throwing Skill, which is all you need.So from there consider three points of dodge and melee and then 1 more point of Electrical for the Shocking Staff, an excellent melee weapon. Chemistry will both enhance grenades and let you make batteries.Otherwise all you really need is Charisma and the five ranks of Persuasion. So any excess points can go into whatever you want.
>>3480372>>3480375>>3479969Arcanum is my first and only isometric RPG and I did fine. The game is brutal your first time when you don't know how the skills or gameplay really work, but my first character was a gunslinger and he would have completely the game if not for a game ending bug that corrupted my save pre first patch. It can be done. Anyone starting out with a gunslinger should be prepared to spend a lot of time digging around in trash cans. Also, get the third rank of Firearms and at least a Fine Revolver as soon as you can.
>>3479716>What's a good gun build. I want to wear a power armor and use the biggest gunFirearms works best with Charisma/Persuasion and Throwing. As a gunslinger you will probably want to invest in Gunsmithy. The Fine Revolver, Repeating Rifle, Looking Glass Rifle, Hand Cannon, and Elephant Gun are all good, but it takes a while to get that many degrees. An alternative option is Electrical. You will want the first three ranks of this regardless as that gives you Charged Rings and the Spectrometer, which will grant you +4 DX and an ability to spot traps easily, essential in dungeons. Get your perception to 12 as quickly as possible to reach rank 3 of firearms; you can hit things reliably then. I would suggest at least 12 Charisma and the first three ranks of Persuasion. This gives you up to 3 followers and Expert rank will also let you talk your way out of most quests and encounters. Three followers to rush in while you open fire works wonders.Another great support skill is throwing. You can make molotov cocktails for just one rank of Explosives and they will get the job done through most of the game. They don't always do high damage as enemies get tougher but they will knock most enemies away from you. It's worth it though to put more points in explosives to get stun and explosive grenades. You can sell these to merchants for big money and they are very useful in battle. Also, the Charged Rings you made will again let you easily boost your Throwing skill to rank 3 with that 12 DX you'll have (depending on initial character stats).
>>3481935>Deus Ex>Actual RPGlol, wannabe who inherited his opinions detected
>>3482210You don't really need to invest into throwing for explosives. In fact I am not sure if throwing actually has any noticeable effect on explosives and I wouldn't bother unless you wish to use throwing-specific weapons (they are great, do recommend). Just one point in explosives for early game (and will last you through mid-game too), and then more later on if you wish to make end-game explosives for end game. Which is nice since it leaves you so many points to play around with and customize your character in any way you want. My gunslingers typically have plenty of points for melee and charisma left-over.Electrical I do recommend for any non-magic build, charged rings are pretty bonkers given how much you can stack the odds with them and also how low investment they are.
>>3482283>You don't really need to invest into throwing for explosives.A few points are useful if you want to throw at anything that isn't right at your feet. Electrical as a whole is easily the best Tech discipline. Only bad item is the Electric Light, which is just not useful for anything really. A couple years ago I did some modifications to the tech tree. I replaced for example the Hand Crafted Flintlock with the Fine Revolver and in place of the Fine Revolver I put in the Shotgung (with a large To Hit Bonus but short range). I replaced Pure Ore with the Balanced Boomerang. Did some other switches to make all of the degrees functional, but I can't remember what they were. Oh, I think for Chemistry I replaced Poison with a tech version of the Liquid of Skin Thickening. I wish Drog had taken an interest and put those changes into his patch as an option.
>>3481868the playable half ogres are the result of a loving union between a man and his beautiful ogre wife
>>3482531I bet Ogre-wives make the meanest meat stews and great at cuddling.
How many skills can I realistically invest in?I wanna play a thief character but it seems expensive to get Melee, Pickpocket, Prowling, Pick Lock and Backstab + stats and I haven't even touched tech or magic yet.This game seems stingy on points. (first time if it wasn't obvious).I got to Shrouded Hills and stole a few things off merchants, like their keys and shit, and now I'm not too sure what to do.
>>3482598You get 64 points total (if you play with the default level 50 cap), and since any skill is only 5 points that should be plenty. Just keep in mind there's no respec, so don't waste points. If you want a thief, go with halfling and get Stun and Haste spells. Stunned (or unaware) enemies receive 5x backstab damage which is HUGE, and Haste gives a lot more turns, and you'll be playing in turn-based anyway because backstabs are impossible in the twitchy real-time mode.Prowling sadly gets good only late game when you get master training which lets you stealth mid combat, allowing for easy 5x sneak attacks without the Stun spell (or stun grenades). But it's really OP at that point.Pickpocket is honestly a waste. Anything worth stealing can be stolen with fate points, and you're not gonna pocket 100 coins from random ass NPC's because dungeon loot sells for fuckton anyway. But sure take it if you want to RP, the master quest is pretty hilarious.Also note that lockpicking is a tech skill and will boost your tech aptitude a bit, but the spells will balance it out so no biggie.
>>3482531If only you could actually get a big strong beautiful ogre wife in game.
>>3482615Halflings seem to be male only though, which sucks cuz I made a whole ass custom portrait for a human girl (based on picrel). Will keep that in mind though.What should I focus on early game? On creation I got 2 Melee and some dex but I still struggled with the big wolves, had to reload until I got lucky and could only fight them one on one.
>>3482621lets see your custom portrait
>>3482621Well pick an Elf or Half-Elf then, they have the second highest DEX cap. Humans only get 20 max, elves/half-elves 21, and halflings 22. Doesn't matter THAT much, but extra turns are extra turns.>What should I focus on early game? On creation I got 2 Melee and some dex but I still struggled with the big wolves, had to reload until I got lucky and could only fight them one on one.Try to get 3 melee / 3 dodge ASAP, otherwise the combat can be frustrating. Also ask guards around for apprentice training in melee / dodge. I'd also highly recommend getting Dagger of Speed (sold by magical smiths in other towns like Tarant), it's the best weapon for thief type characters and will carry you the whole game. How does it work? It's the fastest weapon in the game and backstab damage is INDEPEDENT of the regular weapon damage, so if you're making sure to stab them in the back you'll be doing tons of damage for only 1 AP per attack.
>>3482624I literally just cropped it.
>>3482626Thanks for the tips, will keep that in mind.
The Ogre / Mountain Ogre combination from the unofficial patch can be pretty fun. The story is pretty funny, too.>you weren't even on the zeppelin, it just crashed near the cave you live inThe idea that the entire story of the game would play out because of a retarded ogre who virgil managed to sweet talk into helping him...Meanwhile, the +4 to melee/dodge with 18 strength is just ridiculous for early on experimenting.
>>3479051I felt dumb when I couldnt figure out the constellaton puzzle and looked it up, cause its really not that hard when you focus on the right thing
>>3479051Yeah playing an half ogre technologist is like the closest thing to playing a power armor wearing super mutant in Fallout.
>>3479070Youtuber made a video that the game will never live downsee here's a reference to it right there >>3479077
>>3480328Get the fine revolver as soon as possible. Then your options open up later in the game.
>>3480116It turns out Arcanum was a Diablo killer after all.
>>3481498Neverwinter nights is fun.
>>3482731Are you talking about the ssethtzeentach video?
>>3482731>referenceI hated gnomes for two decades by now. I need no influencer for that.
>>3482731Honestly I've discovered the game through L0rdVega back in 2008, you should try it anon.
I've kinda felt like the only thing this game does wrong is the poor itemization. Like I want to make a mod that edits all that hexed items to be something less shit, because finding magic items should be fun. Maybe also add in a few other items for various builds.
>>3479059wasn't it made by tim cain. and he expcitily NOT nazi.
>>3483309>L0rdVegaGod it has been a long time since I saw that let's play. Too bad some of it gone since he put parts of it on another website that no longer exist. Losing Megaupload was one of biggest loses of good content of that time period.
>>3479051>Half-ogreWere you one of the products of the (((Gnomish))) inter-racial breeding program?
>>3483309lol, newfag
>have slightly above average beauty and average charisma>convince the leader of the assassin group to fuck off because i read some texts about their history or something>make the elf queen's daughter fall in love with you and follow you into the void even though she's a confirmed hoefelt like a modern movie game desu senpaialso both virgil and raven sounded completely emotionless during their final monologues as if they were mindcontrolled which was weird to me
is there a way to change the companion AI? I'm playing a tech character, Virgil wastes all of his fatigue trying to heal me even though it does nothing
>>3483723What about shitty pathfinding, shitty UI or garbage combat?
>>3479051I can't make it work in W10 and it makes me mad
>>3483933No, your best bet is getting a medical arachnid to beat him to the punch
>>3483933Get Jayna (IIRC) as a tech healer.
>>3484018>install UAP>profit
>>3479051I'm in the dwarf city of the clan of the wheel and honestly what disappoint me the most so far is the lack of companion dialogues/banter. Specially Virgil who seems to be, more or less, someone important in the story. He doesn't participate at all in my dialogues with npcs like he did in the very beginning of the game. There isn't much dialogue either with neither of the companions I have, even if you ask about themselves.Besides that, it's pretty fun so far. If you like classic fallout games this should do it for you
>>3479059If jewish supremacism is fine then white supremacism is fine too. It can't go only one way.
>>3484057So what games did that before Arcanum came out?
where does Virgil go if you tell him to leave the party?
>>3484057>I'm in the dwarf city of the clan of the wheel and honestly what disappoint me the most so far is the lack of companion dialogues/banterPerfect example of what zoomers want out of RPGs, a fucking friend simulator.
>>3484481This isn't limited to zoomers, it's why nerd shit went to pot in a lot of areas, when lonely people joined into hobbies from loneliness and not from an actual liking for the hobby itself.
>>3484481Virgil literally did that at the beginning and in Tarant. Then suddenly go mute forever all of a sudden.And yes, I not the biggest fan of the 80's 90's rpg philosophy where your party were composed by lifeless manikins with human faces which were there just to make combat easier
>>3484481>>3484579For not to mention that the most pure and classic tabletop roleplay experience is of social nature. But of course, in videogames you don't play with another 5 real people, so you have to put some interesting companions to compensate it
>>3481711unofficial patchlow int, max strength, max dex half ogreturn basedget dog
>>3484579There's a big mid-game gap but he'll start up again as you hit triggers in the late game. Seems like the devs had big plans for Virgil that were cut to meet deadlines.
>>3484057>I'm in the dwarf city of the clan of the wheel and honestly what disappoint me the most so far is the lack of companion dialogues/banterARE YOU BLIND? WHAT IN G- I mean, better luck next time!
>>3483933You can give him some Bandages, so he'll use his Healing skill instead of spells.>>3484057This is definitely no Baldur's Gate and the party members are even called "followers" not party members, Don't forget, the devs' previous game was Fallout 1/2 (well, they quit in the middle of 2's development to found Troika and start working on Arcanum).Virgil does have a fair amount of unique dialog though and will respond to multiple story important NPC's later on. If you've been paying attention you probably noticed that Virgil's karma meter is a perfect mirror of yours, unlike all the other followers. This will have big repercussions later on.>>3484480All NPC's return to their initial locations, for Virgil this would be the Crash Site (unless your Virgil has had a personality change, in which case it will be in front of Caladon's Panarii Temple).
>>3484579>>3484596Arcanum is just another example of a game that was rushed to completion, the second half really falls off and it shows. Is what it is.
>>3480389Same here except I bought it with my own money. Vampire the Masquerade Redemption and Arcanum were the shit man. I still have my Arcanum CD on the shelf behind me.
>>3484608PLEASE, WE MUST CEASE OUR ATTACK AGAINST SUCH A GOOD SO-ACK
Finally made small Machined Plate. Not sure the strength bonus makes up for the heavy ass weight, but I'm happy. Hoping for a gun schematic in Vendrigoth better than the long distance pistol
>>3484057Z'an Al'urin has a lot to say about different placesSo does RavenEven Sogg Mead Mug has, in fact he talks about every tavern he's been in.You just got to prompt them. Banter isn't there, except for some few like Zan and Raven hating each other, etc.
>>3479749Hey, guys. Me again. I just beat the game. I did a charisma build and had a great time, I had a good alignment and it was 100 by the end. Talking the final boss out of the fight was amazing and a lot of fun. I had a great time and if anyone is thinking about trying it out I would highly recommend it. Make sure to get the UAP and do as many quests you can, if you miss out on some of these you'll hate yourself. All I can say is that some of the parts drag on a bit and the pathfinding was weird a few times but far from bad
I always restart the game around Tarant because I want to try a different build then I repeat it a few times and drop the game. I have so many hours in this but I only beat it once...
disabling the retarded combat music improves the game so much
>>3482218It is, unlike JA2. Just because he is a retard doesn't mean he is wrong about literally everything.
>>3484581>in videogames you don't play with another 5 real peopleExcept when you doBaldur's Gate, NWN and even Arcanum used to have wonky multiplayerSo if you want an actual "classic tabletop roleplay experience of social nature", you play multiplayer. If you want friend simulator for dysgenic losers, you play any modern mainstream slop with shitty quips and le mommy romance roleplay.
Best team comp for battle banter is Geoffrey, Loghaire and Payne.
>>3479083>Orcs are a disgusting race and inferior race, therefore Jews >gnomes are greedy, and therefore Jews I hate these posts, it’s the same retards who say Minecraft is racist because there are stereotypes.
>>3485110The so called "modern" slop actually has the best co-op implementation. You can play the entirety of BG3 or DOS2 in co-op, that's why these games are so popular, the MP is not wonky like in the old crusty boomer shit.
>>3485190You need friends for co-op. Something zoomers don't have between playing braindead slop and watching twitch streams.
companions are for faggots
>>3485219ur moms a faggot
>>3483911>>have slightly above average beauty and average charisma>>make the elf queen's daughter fall in love with you and follow you into the void even though she's a confirmed hoeI think she falls for you no matter what. Also, Beauty only affects reaction, there are no dialogue checks for it specifically.
>>3485288>I think she falls for you no matter whatThe reqs are Beauty 10, male Human, Half-Elf or Elf.
>>3485288>there are no dialogue checks for it specifically.no dialogue checks as far as I can remember, but people do mention it in dialogue, and I'm sure it does affect a rare quest or two.
>>3485288>>3485301i literally made a useless bimbo elf with almost-maxed Beauty and she was mostly useless except for buying stuff at lower price.https://imgur.com/Wkz4mYE
>>3484776>Machined Plate. Not sure the strength bonus makes up for the heavy ass weight, but I'm happy. Hoping for a gun schematic in Vendrigoth better than the long distance pistolcrafting is so crap compared to finding random magic weapons in a store. crafting healing items at least seems economical. that said, crafting is more useful in the Diablo-like expansion game.
>>3486789It's more of a support/flavor stat, no doubt, but ultimately you still do have to pick something else as your "combat" stat, because unlike charisma and extra companions, you can't just win by being pretty. The few situations it may or may not have an impact on are irrelevant to the rest of the game.
>>3486789>make bimbo>is uselessand?
>>3486798i was trying to beat the game with a meme. i got bored of it fast.
>>3486801>got bored of it fastsounds like exactly the experience you'd expect from being around a bimbo.
>>3486796>Diablo-like expansion gameis this the 2nd Module i saw in the menu?
recommend me a build that lets me just effortlessly breeze through the combat so I can just enjoy the non-combat stuff
>>3487263high charisma, get all the companions and just wait while they kill everything
>>3486796I remember crafting the pyro axe or whatever it is and then everything died in one - two hits. Even the last boss died by round 2 just by attacking it. It was way more broken than spamming harm.
How viable/fun is a solo tech thief?
>>3487263Get harm (lvl1 necromantic black spell) and spamclick it in RTwP mode. High constitution and magickal aptitude for mana is welcome, but not needed. Later, you can learn Disintegrate (Force 5) and Unlocking Cantrip and Teleportation (level 2 and 5 conveyance).
>>3487263Get expert persuasion, companions and level temporal magic, get stun and harm.
>>3487263Guess how I know you're a massive faggot
>>3487263Play with the unofficial patch and make a Ogre with Mountain Ogre as your history. Most of the game will be an absolute breeze with how much of a difference capping a stat makes, and you might even laugh too since you have to be retarded.
>>3487263One point in explosive, then do whatever else you want because explosives carry hard.
>>3487263Make a pyro axe and then every dies in one to two hits
>>3487907how early can you make it?
>>3487960You can make it as soon as you get to Tarant, which is the first major city in the game and usually the second place you go to after starting.
>>3487263learn harm and run over to ashbury to get the dog
>>3479051is it turn based or RTWP?
>>3489009Yes.
>>3489009It has a turn based mode and a turn based w/o pause mode which is basically broken. So turn based.
>>3489014ah so it's good then
>>3489009It has bot, but the game is clearly balanced to be played as TB. Some stats like speed are crucial in TB, meanwhile in RTWP are useless, and doing backstabs is impossible too. RT is only for fast clearing trash mobs when you're already way more powerful than them
>>3489145I heard they only added RT because they had to do multi-player for some reason, so this makes sense. Also considering doing my first (somewhat) magick-aligned build as a backstabber, is Prowling worth raising for that?
>>3489239it's awful in low levels, but really good after you get master training
>>3489145>RT is only for fast clearing trash mobs when you're already way more powerful than themRealtime pretty much makes you unkillable against slower enemies if you have any ranged spell or throwing weapon.
I'm starting to think my solo gunner idea was a mistakeMainly because guns suck lol, they're so boring. It looks interesting on surface but 90% of them are just straight up outclassed by guns you'll make earlier. I see a schematic, it looks interesting so I get excited and start working on it, then turns out it's shit and my gun is already better. It's not fun at all
>>3491622>It looks interesting on surfacethat's arcanum in a nutshell, everything about the game is entirely superficial
>>3491622Yeah, Troika were basically a bunch of idea-guys who had no idea how to build systems.
>>3491622The balance is a bit off, but you likely aren't investing enough in combat stats and skills.Also I'm about 90% sure you can do called shots with higher skill levels. Shoot legs to knock people down, arms to disarm them, head to stun.
>>3491622Firearms is a very rough start and takes a long time to pick up, in contrast to both melee and magic. Archery struggles too for a variety of reasons. Mostly once you get the mid/end game weapons, it becomes really fun... but that's a long time to struggle.
>>3491730>>3491801The combat is fun, it forces me to rely a bit too much on traps and molotovs but that makes it interesting. My problem is how useless most craftable weapons are
>>3479083Half of this is embarrassing nerds who think referencing real life conflicts and ideologies makes their setting gritty and the other half is schizophrenia attempting to call a compass a nazi symbol.
>>3491622yeah my gunner was mostly carried by charisma and pyrotechnic axes on every follower, pretty much until the end. my grenadier/boomeranger on the other hand was much stronger pretty much right away
>>3491622Use a fate point to pickpocket a Hand Cannon from the halfling standing in the center of Tarant. Should hold you over until the better guns (Elephant Gun, Tesla Cannon, Looking Glass Rifle, Droch's Warbringer, Levered Machinegun etc).Or just play a Melee/Bow/Throwing/Magic build instead, they're vastly superior. Pyro Bow is very OP and better than any gun.
>>3493115You can also do the first mission for Pollock's gang in the Boil and then accept the second mission and say you're a techie to get a hand cannon.
>>3493115The crazy thing about the better guns is how they use more bullets. As if bullets weren't already in short supply, something like the mechanised gun costs SIX bullets with every shot.
>>3492158No, I think the whole thing is bait for retards like yourself.
>>3492823>my grenadier/boomeranger on the other hand was much stronger pretty much right away>>3493115Throwing stuff might be superior to Melee. You really only need DEX and the best weapon is a "free" Easter Egg.https://arcanum.fandom.com/wiki/Old_Blind_Master
>>3493761isn't the krull glaive better than the flying guillotine?
>>3493833Longer range IIRC, but worse everything else, plus it's magical while the guillotine is neutral. Also it's a quest item for the master throwing quest, so you'll have to steal it back.
>>3479083Damn, I never heard about this game. Gonna have to check it out now. Sounds legit. TGD.
>>3492158So, reductio ad hitlerum and reductio ad retardum.
I just finished the half-ogre island quest and... are you really telling me that's how the quest ends? We never solve the mystery and uncover the conspiracy despite being obvious something shady going on after the disappearance of both the npcs who give us quests? This was really disappointing honestly and not even worth the 600g I paid to go to the island
>>3494964Your take is not new, a lot of people weren't satisfied with that quest's resolution but they're all missing the point. This conspiracy is on the level of Epstein's death, you're not supposed to solve it, the writer's intent was to make you feel helpless and vulnerable, which. granted. doesn't really work that well in a CRPG where you can become a god and enslave everyone.
>>3494964>This was really disappointingHaha its just beginning. Soon you'll learn that all the people praising this game never actually came even close to finishing it.
>>3494982Yeah, when your squad can at the time include dwarven king and elven princess you are banging, your exploits can be basis for the new book of the bible and you end up crawling to hell to defeat evil buddha with facts and logic it's kinda weird to try to put player down. Conspiracy is too big? You end up destroying a bigger and older one lead by dark elves.
>>3494986Arcanum is't even long. Over the years i finished it like a dozen times. Last time like a month ago.
>>3494986that's most videogames
>>3494996keebler's chosen people are untouchable
>>3494964Revisit the island. It's just a normal island with some empty warehouses where nothing ever happened, it was all your schizo fantasy all along.
>>3495015>it was all your schizo fantasy all along(((t.hem)))
>>3489009Both and they're both broken in different ways.I feel like if they had just stuck to one and really polished it the game would have been significantly less janky.But like the other guy said they were forced to add real time.
Which version of the unofficial patch should I install? It seems the latest versions added a bunch of fan-made content like new races and shit. I don't want new or altered content. I just want bugs fixed.
>>3495980The restored content and some other stuff are optional in the installation. Don't be a retard and install the last version
>>3479051I agree with you. its great game
Imagine how fucked up it would be if Larian made Arcanum 2
>>3497182Thats disgusting
>>3494982>>3494996Well, if you want to roleplay a "fitting" solution you can: a) side with the underclasses (Boil quests, factory riot) in order to help them gain power, and decrease the gnomes' influence; b) return the camera to Hieronymus Maxim, and penalize Tarant when negotiating with Caladon; this way, Caladon and Tarant eventually go to war, but the airforce helps Caladon achieve a decisive victory, and ultimately gains a controlling stake in the Tarantian council; c) a combo of both.
Last time I played arcanum here and talked about its flaws retards were having mental breakdowns by the time I got out of the first town. This is one of those games held up by poser idiots just like New Vegas and Morrowind.
>>3497182>this time you catch the gnomes red handed>half-ogre breeding scene is played for laughs haha>uncomfortable amount of emphasis is placed on the player being able to sex the ogres themself>this is used to advertise the game and journalists cheer for it
>>3496888>t. narcoleptic
>>3497246Nope. Just played it a lot of times (even when unofficial path didn't existed) I replay troikas games (vtmb, toee, arcanum) semi regularly
>>3497214>half-ogres are nice, calm and friendly, and they protect the weak>why wouldn't you want more of them?>it's a good thing!They'll also flip it in a new game and half-ogres will be born safely to ogre mothers instead of tearing their way out of humans ones.
>>3497296>Virgil is somehow alive after whatever time skip they came up with, also he's bi now>Bates reference, but the new guy is called Beff Jezos and a one note asshole>music loses all string instruments and is made to be "epic"; taverns contain a reprise of the Divine Divinity pub theme>insults are toned down, but racism is more prevalent and amped up to comical levels, however, it's only coming from humans>no more night and day cycles, also low int dialogues are scrapped
>>3497292>t. goldfish
>>3497624Nope. Those games are really replayable, esp with all unofficial patches and updates. You should try it instead of whining
haven't you bumped enough threads on shit games today? there's no way you're actively playing even half of these.
>>3497645nope.
>>3497649Your loss, tranny
>>3497807nope.
>>3497818ok, you win i guess
>>3497296>half-ogres will be born safely to ogre mothers Doesn't the research log specifically mention that they tried this method first, but human males had problems... "performing", since ogre females are very unattractive?
>>3497916gnome guy at end of quest mentions that they have enuff ogre females to farm that they no longer need human/elf captives. iirc
>>3497916That was always a silly plot point since horses are reproduced without physical sex all the time in the real world by horse breeders. The fact is the writer had a fetish for human women getting fucked by impossibly large men.
>>3497891nope.
>>3497916>calicucks project their own micro-libidosreal men can fuck anything. nah, it's just for boring ass shock value from calicucks.
>>3497963So a half-ogre plus an ogress will always create another half-ogre? It makes a certain amount of sense, given the manual notes that humans and dwarves are the only basal forms of humaniform creatures (i.e. excluding bedokaan) and all the other forms have been magickally altered.
>>3487273>>3487273ok i checked. Pyro Ax does the best damage for melee weapons, unless your foe is fire-immune.
>>3497971Probably, but human sperm dies quickly outside of optimal conditions. Conditions that early industrial scientific society may not know how to reproduce.
>>3497985id guess that gnomes farmed female half ogres from human + ogre stock so they're off continent ogre farms are stocked with female half ogres
>>3497315>insults are toned down[x] doubtmodern game writers cannot resist writing dialogues without "fuck" "fucking" and "shit" every 3 words
>>3497916Huh? I took that like the female ogres just didn't get pregnant from human males often for some reason. I doubt most men would have problems fucking whatever
>>3498082It would take an extremely... deprived man to feel attracted to an ogress. Think of the nastiest slampig you've ever encountered. Then imagine her 7.5 feet tall, with Andre The Giant's physique. That's an ogress.
>>3498094There are probably several dozen anons posting on this board alone that would fuck an ogre, male or female.
>>3497963huh? they used elf women too? i didn't see any
>>3497916Ogre mothers would also be impossible to strap down to a bed and keep under control.
The biggest change in Arcanum discussion over the years is how much newfags focus on the gnome quest instead of the Final Boss.
>>3498199The discussion with the final boss at the end is so well done, you really need to think about how you can persuade him
>>3498094If you have seen the amount of videos on the internet of freaks fucking animals (even pigs) you would know it is not that hard to find desperate men willing to breed a sightly-uglier-than-the-average humanoid
>>3498094
>>3479083I will now play your game.>>3479091Thanks anon.
>>3480982>one of the greatest RPGs ever createdIt's Troikaslop like Bloodlines.
>>3498518>Troika>SlopPlease, bless us with your list of the actually good cRPGs
>>3498520FO 1-2, Torment, BG2, DA:O, KOTOR 1, TW3No idea why posers pretend that Arcanum and yes, even Bloodlines are anything besides being huge fucking disappointments. And yes, I played both of them on release.
>>3498527>Arcanum and yes, even Bloodlines are anything besides being huge fucking disappointments.i played the prequel VampMas game and my cuzzin and bro both said it's good, but never got far because it feels so linear and not as good and gothy like Diablo 2. i still bought it on GOG much later... and never played it again.Arcanum, i see the potential but i was lagging like hell on a duocore so i went and played Divine Divinity instead.
>>3498527>KOTOR 1Gr8 b8 m8
>>3498645Hope you're not implying that 2 is somehow better.
>>3480982Why do fallout tards have such awful taste in everything? You can check the archive and this picture has never been attached to a single good post. It's all talking about eating complete garbage.
>>3498618You type like a massive faggot.
>>3498680I was saying both are bad
>>3487263don't listen to shitfucks who advise you the harm spell, it will drain all your mana just like any other offensive spell before you end the combat, you'll be a potion chugging bitchtake hasten spell, two points into melee and a point in backstab, and that's it, you can clean the Boil right from the get go, it totally breaks the game
>>3499475>backstabDoes that work with all melee weapons? Which weapons should I look out for? Also, should I use fast turn based mode for the backstab?
>>3499506Read the wiki or in-game tooltips instead of pestering others with questions.
>>3499576What wiki.
Well, I've just finished the game. It was... Ok I guess? Honestly, for what people told me, I expected a much more rich world building. But it seems that most of the entities of the world are there just to serve the plot, not to create an actual organic and deep lore. It felt pretty much like Divinity OS2, where every "legend" you hear about in the beginning ends up taking part of the main quest or a side quest-line.IDK, maybe it's because I'm just burned out of the game at this point, but the last half of it was kind of a slog. It didn't leave me the feeling "I will surly replay this some day" other rpgs gave me.Not really the most memorable for me, but another one to my list of finished rpg. Now I've finished almost every 97-2005 crpg. I think I will take a rest from the genre and try out something like Stalker or a jarpig
>>3499609>or a jarpig>>>/trash/this is an anime rpg board, riceists.
There's an active AMA (of sorts) with one of Arcanum's writers, pretty interesting.https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/what-is-the-status-of-the-writer-for-arcanum.134455/
>>3499609would you say you did a pretty comprehensive run? Did you find the Bane of Kree, or the remnant's of Kerhgan's cult? Did you open up that old vault or get the super-blessing?
>>3500734>Did you find the Bane of KreeI killed him.>the remnant's of Kerhgan's cult?If you mean that dungeon where you can resurrect a member of the Derian-Ka and have it as a potential companion (couldn't because my character was too goodie), then yes.>Did you open up that old vaultIdk what you're referring here.>get the super-blessing?I got the first major blessing and did the second circle but didn't progress anymore because those blessings did fit better my character build.
>>3499609>where every "legend" you hear about in the beginning ends up taking part of the main quest or a side quest-line.You've got a point there, that I never really thought about. You run into everything. Even the bones of that dragon you find in the museum, you can go to that location and there's a little quest there.Good in the sense that there's lots for the player to do, but you've got a point that the world is waiting for YOU specifically.
>>3500869I just thought a little more about it, and maybe the few exceptions would be the old gods and the relationships between them. But they're not really that much fleshed out compared to the amount of lore about Nasrudin, Arronax and Kerghan there is in the game.
>>3500878There's a secret Iron Clan with more lore about dwarves + some amazing gear, there's Kerghan's research lab with some cool items (including a tech schematic for Create Undead), there's a washed up Vendigrothian submarine on the Isle of Despair etcAlso, if you join the Dark Elves you get to meet their leader (not the woman, an old guy, also a voice acted character), there's even a cool scene where you can make him fight Nasrudin (if you try following the good path after joining the Dark Elves), can you guess who wins that battle?
>>3501011>(if you try following the good path after joining the Dark Elves), can you guess who wins that battle?i forgot. is Nasrudin a nigerian? if so, he wins.
>>3479083This represents absolute 0% media literacy, its almost as if by using these symbols the game is trying to say something about industrialisation and the effects it had on humanity
>>3500852Kree's recruitable for an evil run and the vault in question is the one in the museum that requires the iron key, I think. A lot of the world building is sort of backgrounded and focused on the age of legends stuff which feeds directly into the main plot or the industrial revolution's impact on politics and society, such as with the end of chivalric romance in that one monarchy. By contrast a game like Pillar's of Eternity had tons of lore and wasn't shy on worldbuilding, but was for various reasons not as innately captivating - it felt that it was there by necessity because that's what big fantasy worlds need.
>>3501313It's been a while but I think they never really said anything about the mainland in Arcanum. I think there were just some hints to Caledon having an alliance with some nation there.Whereas in Pillars, like you said, you get an exposition dump on every race description about several countries running across the entire world.
>>3479051Hmm, I don't know, I can't really enjoy it anymore, strictly due to window scrolling issues. It aged way worse technically than Fallout & Fallout 2.
>>3501313> the vault in question is the one in the museum that requires the iron keyOh no, I didn't discover that. But may reload a save from before going to the void and check that place out
>>3501011Speaking of side areas, I remember Dernholm's dungeons being quite easy to miss, since the secret entrance is some distance from the town, in the middle of nowhere.
>>3501343Its weird how much worse the ui is compared to fallout. They fucked up basic stuff that they already got right years ago.
I only played through Arcanum twice. First run? One of the best RPG experiences ever, was playing as a good guy magic/charisma user. Second run? Evil magic user again because Harm too good. Felt a bit short on content, especially lonely companion wise, had just the undead barbarian and the necromancer guy with me I think. Third time, I wanted to try the tech route but man, I just hate collectibles and crafting.>searching every trash can to get rags for early molotov cocktailsTech runs just suffer too much from interface.Maybe I also played as retarded Half-Ogre melee only, the dialogue was funny but gameplay wise really boring, the most limited experience you can get.
>>3501667>especially lonely companion wise, had just the undead barbarian and the necromancer guySurly Virgil? Zan Alurin? And you can turn any companion evil with enough persuasion or the Bangellian Scourge.
>>3501948Also Vollinger and the evil halfling, I don't think I ever recruited the latter though.
The development story behind Arcanum is unironically the most touching NAKAMA story in RPG history.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETVsAHbTh2c
>>3503848Unironically a better story than 95% of actual RPG stories.
>>3479051Wrong.
>>3503848>unironically>>3503859>Unironicallyironic
>>3504724Unironically, unironic.
>>3479051Buggy, broken and terrible gameplay. But the world building is superb. And that is all an RPG needs to be able to stand the test of time. There truly are no RPGs that are not horrible in some way, but if the world is fleshed out and built competently, it will stand a hurricane. Arcanum prevails for that reason
>>3503848Tim cain is a fuckin faggot
>>3503848TL;DW whats special about this?
>>3481446They lack the IQ and competence to be White, silly bitch.
>>3506001>Tim Cain left Interplay because he kept telling them he's not happy but they ignored him over and over again, despite that he still stayed behind to transfer all knowledge for Fallout 2 (i.e. about the design for Chris Avellone).>After he left, Jason Alexander and Leonard Boyarsky also left.>Despite their work on the hit wonder Fallout, they couldn't get a job, because """someone""" (Brian Fargo by the way, who then founded worthless dogshit company inXile Entertainment) called everyone around that they shouldn't hire them, they're trouble.>So they founded their own studio and started working on Arcanum.>Again no one wanted to fund Arcanum, because """someone""".>In the end, Sierra saved them, and they kept Troika alive even as they went into financial problems and had to shut down far bigger franchises, and they protected them from lawsuits which they were getting from Interplay.>Interplay claimed they deliberately conspired against Interplay when they left together and stole Fallout code.>They kept doing this over and over again, until a high profile lawyer friend of Tim Cain looked at it and told them that they will make these threats go public in future.>Except one more time they technically tried to sneak it in when they asked if Tim Cain still has the source code for Fallout (he didn't).Interplay was its era's equivalent of today's Activision.
>>3506040TL;DR can someone sum this up for me?
>>3506146No, go fuck yourself.
>>3505046>But the world building is superbWhen I played it I found it to be the opposite. It's delivery is through robotic lore dumps and a lot of it makes no sense whatsoever. Like it's not like trails in the sky or something where you walk into town and pick up a newspaper to read about the latest local events. If it was written like arcanum you'd talk to a random npc at a fruit stand and he'd dump the entire history of the hundred days war on you. Arcanum is like that. Just lore dumps everywhere and then you walk off into the world and randomly fight monsters that don't make sense or fit into the world either, like a forest with like 50 gorillas in it and nothing else. (whereas in trails monsters are placed appropriately in accordance to their natural habitat, and even in higher or lower density depending on their behavior as solitary predators or herd animals) The whole game is just so lazy and bad.
>>3506161Then go play trails and shut up, you emasculated faggot.
>>3506175Your basis for what constitutes good world building is wrong. Comparitive critique is the cornerstone of objective criticism and if a game is demonstrably worse than a Japanese PSP game then it doesn't have good world building. You should play more games and stop obsessing over the same handful of bad ones, because you aren't doing CRPGs any credit as there are plenty of far better ones. Have you played Skald yet? That game has fairly extensive world building in service of its dark horror atmosphere. Furthermore, if you can be overpowered by an "emasculated faggot" what does that make you? A woman?
>>3506161>pick dialogue options that are questions about the world to an npc>receive information about the world from said npcWow, who would have thought?
