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Just got an REI membership and all I want to do now is consooooom
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>>2730339
To be fair, it's a lifetime membership. You'll make back your $30 in savings eventually.
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>>2730520
and I'm guaranteed to find those savings somewhere else
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>>2730535
not always plus you always get the biggest savings on rei-branded items
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>>2730211
I'm just here to seethe at this

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The purpose of this general is to encourage people to go /out/ and find cool fossils and artifacts. This thread is also a place to share our own collections and things we find when we are /out/ hunting.

Rules are as follows,
>To just post and discuss fossils and other related geological subjects.
>When you post about a fossil in your collection, please label it with what formation it is from, what it is, and where in the world it is from.
>If you don't know where it originated or the species that is ok, just label it as so
Helpful Links
https://paleobiodb.org/navigator/
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/
https://zoom.earth/
Geologic maps of US states (usgs.gov)
A Beginner's Guide To Fossil Hunting - Fossil Hunting Trips - The Fossil Forum

classes have finished for the year and work has slowed down so hopefully I can keep this one alive. I've made some amazing fids in the past few months that I have been gone and I hope to see what all you have found since the last thread as well. First fossil of this thread is a Placcticeras sp. about 9.5 to 10 inches in diameter was super stoked when I found it. Upper Britton Formation of the Eagle Ford Group, Denton Co. Texas
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First attempt at fossil prepping today. I used a tile saw and an engraving dremel. Kinda fuckin mangled my crab fossil but oh well, it's mostly exposed.
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>>2732917
Last pic. It took me about 4.5 hours in total.
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>>2732917
cool crab!

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Why do you like nature more than people?
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>>2732652
Every time I organize a group camp, people bail. No matter how many camps I do, nature always shows up.
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>>2732763
>Remove this concrete
,,,bethe,moving.,
,BLM land is FREEEEEEE!,for 14 days.,,,after 14 days the poop circle is toosmall!,
,,,,,,sidenote> HUMMINGBIRD FIGHT!!!orisit?sexytime?,
,,,op?whynot Love both?
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Nature is the constant, the unchanging, and pretty much the default form of existence. We as humans like to take control, and change the world we live in, but by doing that we make it complicated, confusing and obtuse.

It doesn't matter who you are, where you're at, and what you have or what you don't have, you can always return to that constant as it lies underneath the facade of society we've built. I think its no surprise that people who've never experienced the constant let alone established a relationship with it are unhinged neurotic messes.
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>>2732845
how old was Diogenes when he died?
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>>2732652
nature never called me a chud

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For me:

>Tent: MSR Hubba Hubba 2
>Bag: Gregory Baltoro 65
>Sleeping bag: Marmot Sawtooth 15
>Sleeping pad: Zlite
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>>2732656
Yea quilt would be shit without a insulated pad, I wouldn't use it then. But the quilt is much more like blankets at home in bed and offer more flexibility because you can partially cover yourself if it's warmer.

500 fill power is ass for that price. You could probably get something made in the us with 750-800 for that price. The thing I don't like about sleeping bags is constriction. I side sleep so quilt all day. I have sleeping bags too, just prefer the quilt.

I don't remember the exact formula but it should be online somewhere. The know area of a quilt (length * width) can be used to estimate the fill power by measuring the thickness when fully lofted and vice versa. So use that to determine if you're actually getting what you're paying for
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>>2721180
They're nice.
I had helinox cot loaner from a friend and it was comfy, very light too, no need to worry about sharp rocks or anything else for that matter to poke you in the back or puncture your mat.
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>>2729499
Checked and same, tent is the only way I can sleep without worrying some little mega-aids cunt biting me.
Also last time I used a hammock there was a frog in my boot.
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>>2732558
>Increase surface area so you have more area to lose heat
>Heavier for the same insulation because the surface area that needs to be insulated is greater
>Going to have more cold spots because it's a more complicated shape
>Less volume inside the bag means you don't start warming up stale air
A meme unless you want to do warm-up exercises repeatedly to maintain warmth.
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Tent: Quarterdome 1
Pack: Mariposa 60
Water: FirstNeed
Quilt: EE Revelation 10F plus overfilled
Pads: Nemo Switchback and Tensor
Shoes: Hoka SG5
Poles: Leki carbon
Stove: MSR Pocket Rocket

Comfy as hell three seasons.

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hey /out/
so,me and my friends are about to have our finals so we thought it would be a great idea to do something stupid before going back to studying 24/7

we wanted to do a great urbex so if some of you guys know some great urbex spots/scary places to go explore in brussels and it’s periphery it’d be great!

im ready to trade infos about other places we found in exchange of whatever urbex/place you have!
thanks
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>>2732447
As far as Brussels unfortunately I can't help you because I live in Wisconsin... but do post photos please. I like scary places.
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>>2732447
Break into the NAVO HQ. I heard it's pretty cool.

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pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/Mvfh8b87

New USDA zone map has been released: https://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/

Koppen Climate Map: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/K%C3%B6ppen_World_Map_High_Resolution.png

Search terms:
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Spring is in full swing! Stagger your bush bean plantings to get continuous harvests.
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>>2733090
They taste pretty good, sweet and coreless. Even when crowded they'll get to a decent size. I used to grow Scarlet Nantes, but they suffered a lot when planted too close together. Once I started covering the rows with a drop cloth during germination 5 years ago, my germination rate went up to nearly 100% so crowding became much more of a problem.
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Are there any of those plant identification and plant care apps that are actually good?
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>>2733099
>plant identification
Plantnet is good (and free)
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Blue princess holly hedge is blooming, not sure if my other Holly's will be able to pollinate them though, planted last summer so not sure, hopefully I'll get berries.
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>>2733099
>>2733103
> Plantnet
It's not merely an app, but also a normal web app: https://identify.plantnet.org/the-plant-list/identify
I've used this one for a while, and it really gives correct results, even when provided with a rather shitty input.
Tested that "in the wild" and cross-checked online photos, and tested it once just for fun in a botanical garden.

It only failed me upon ornamental cultivars, especially when you try to identify by a flower.
But hey, those cultivars often look dissimilar to the species, so I can understand false guesses there.

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What are some dangerous jobs that an able bodied person can make a bunch of money in?
I've been looking into wildland firefighting but it seems like Oregon is the only place to go for that. Also the pay doesn't seem substantial.
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>Ogalamaks
LMFAO been a minute. Fucked in the he types ya hear me. And when I was in Watford benjevas came lakeling and yuthanka to out the west. Cuz people comin from california after housing matrket, bakerites and Siskis fwent up twice watford. Kept the the ogalmaks out east.
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>>2732909
Fuck you faggots. I lived in Bismarck for college and had to deal with your faggy gobbledygook. Nobody likes a man camper, you're all retarded pieces of shit who failed elsewhere and made a dialect that sounds more retarded than the simplest african pidgin language. PTSD hearing this shit and seeing people like you in Bismarck trying to pick up girls as if you didn't have enough whores in your fag camps.
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>>2732909
>Ogalmaks
>Chadron
Lmfao I approve Bakkenese as and Omahan fuck those fuckers I didn't even know this shit existed lol
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>>2732910
Yeah who cares though? The golden age for them is over. The smart ones invested their money the others got fucked in the end spending more than they earned. It's not like ND is man camped anymore, at least not to an extent it matters or you'll ever see a dialect come about.
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>>2732910
Where I'm from in NE wyoming we called them "Bakken*****s" most retarded people on earth. They'd quit, then wreack havoc in surround states with their oil money and talk like retards not realizing they need to code switch back to normal english then go back, make a ton, then blow it all again. Tons of missing girls ended up in those camps and it wasn't only Ogallalans doing it. Like 70% of Bakkenites by my estimation where scum. The other 30% were people who wanted to put their head down, work, and leave and those types didn't pick up the lingo are call themselves Bakkenites, sadly those types didn't frequent Western wyoming, we got the scum.

Fore the record I've technically been solo camping a bunch but I've always been within eye sight of other campers. I've been wild camping with friends/my ex but never alone.

I'm not usually afraid of the outdoors and when I do feel nervous about something once I start doing it I'm fine. I love to go through night drives and explore hoods, which I know is way more dangerous.

My main fear is for some reason I'll go a bit crazy and flee from my campsite and get disoriented. There's some mountain lions periodically out here but they're super super rare. I slept in grizzly country before but, again, not alone.

Anybody else feel a bit nervous then realize it wasn't that bad once you got out there?
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it's statistically impossible that two serial killers run into each other in the woods.
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>>2732830
>statistically impossible for two serial killers to run into each other in the best place to hide a body.

Not to mention who tf asked
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>>2729100
I've been "solo" camping multiple times, but if I'm heading off without other people I always bring my dog with me. I've not been in grizzly country but I've spent a lot of time hiking and camping in mountain lion territory. If I'm going to be alone, having both my Malinois and a gun with me goes a long way to making me feel more secure.
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>>2729100
I'm too scared of people to sleep anywhere near them while camping, unless it's family/friends. Just be scared of others judging you and you'll prefer the unsafety of solitude.
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> Implying that OP is a serial killer. XD

So /out/... I'm from out west and wanted to explore the eastlands. I went down the Pennsylvania rabbit hole and discovered the entire northern part of Pennsylvania is known as the "PA WILDS" and is more sparsely populated than Mongolia. I'm now dying to check it out. What can I expect if I try to wild hike through the whole region. Any concerns beyond getting lost and dying? Why is this region so fucking mysterious?
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>>2732829
No
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>>2732829
only on the west coast is that allowed, sorry :^)
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>>2732829
Outside of the designated public ranges?
Nope

>p.s. the ranges have a "3 rounds in magazine maximum" rule because they were built for hunters, not tacticool larpers
>and yes, you will be ticketed if they catc you with more than 3 rounds
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>>2732880
Huh what about state game lands?
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>>2732829
If it's for hunting, yes. Just bring a slingshot if you want to plink at cans.

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>>2729860
it was the jewish logger beavers.
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lovingit.
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>humans love oxygen
>let's feed them 100% oxygen
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>>2732752
>100% oxygen
theonly,,wayto stay alive at 4PSI,,astronauts knowthis.,
,had collapsed lunglastyear,,,that PURE PURE O2 wasaving.,
,,,drunkard welders huffff like mad on mondays.,
,,M Jackson overpresure chamber?,,,i dont wanto APOLLO-1!
,how low doyou think co2 should be?,,orhigher!
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>>2732752
>what is a hospital oxygen chamber
Are you retarded or something?

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Old one is about to 404 >>2639545

Last minute discussions and hopefully some sweet pics after the fact will go here. Fair warning to DFW area bros, there's some weather foretasted for the 8th so plan accordingly.
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>>2730527
This is an american board you goddamn beaner
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>>2730469
SHIIIIIIIET
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>>2730550
picos de europa is a pretty huge area with no forest, only grass and exposed limestone specially the peaks i have in mind. if the forecast predicts clouds i will change plans of course but i hope not. and since the peaks are at very high elevation there's usually not fog up there, if anything there will be a sea of fog below me which is usually awesome, and it must be even more so during an eclipse
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Last night totally made up for us getting screwed out of last month's eclipse. The skies lit up in green and pink colors around 10 pm, danced like crazy around 2 am, and were visible for most of the night. It was easily the best I've seen in this region and one of the most memorable nights of my life!
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>>2717936
Based.

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Just got certed and i think it’s my new favorite activity. General discussion, also anyone in CO want to dive some alpine lakes with me?
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>>2731319
>favorite activity
floatlike,,,inspace.,
,,creatures with eyeson stalks that can see colors beyond human.,
,,,,,BIGASS TOOTHY monsterscan showup anytime.,
,notalking.,handsignals,,,body language.,
,,,shimering rainbows everywheres.,
,free,,,after you byour cloths,,,DOgeta fitted wetsuit!,
,,,,shapeshifting.,
,,HUGH frens.,hugfrens!
,tinyfrens.,
,,,,,dangerispear fishermen and boaters.,
,,norules.,
,bequadraplegic,,,,bethejellyfish!,
,,,,getting tothe water would slither on left side like a sidewinder snake,,,,humanstare!,wetsuit kept me from burning onthesand.,

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>>2731553
You can go like 5 minutes with enough practice, for normies at least. I'm not super into it but I can stay underwater for like 2 minutes. Just practice holding your breath and you'll get the hang of it.
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>>2732360
Are you one retard or multiple retards pretending to be the same retard? You have such a distinct and retarded style.
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>>2732374
ishould,,,benamefagin.,easy tofilter.,
,,,,,justoldays,,,keepme amuzed.,
,,belly almostouching sand swiming cruise 3 feetsdeep(thats 1 yard foryou euros),,,,
,,,rainbows,,,,EVERYWHERES!,,cleanwaterwavesunlight,, rainbows.,
,,,pass over SeaSlug outon thesand,,?slugscant do Sand!,,little guy mustbewilderd,
,,arch in tight circle,,super long finsin sight@.,
,,,,swoopup to SS,,just lift himback on rock,,hand talks back to brain'nope',,,?
,brain 'i know itslimmmy,buthe little guy needsour help,now grabit and lets get pasthislittle misshap?
,hand'notouching THAT!'
,brain 'listen HAND!!im the DECIDER around HERE>GRAB THE VAGINE SLUT,,uhh,,SLUG AND PUTIT on the FOAMY ROCK!!!'
,,,hand'you are illinformed on thesituationotouching THAT,,brain?ask theyes then get backtome'
,brain useseyes,,move close,inchsaway,,SS,frilly gills,purpley splochy,,,single wide suction foot,,2 big intelegenteyes,,,
,,,,wo,holdup,,eyes?,,?,on a SEASLUG???,they dont HAVEYES!!,
,alright seaslug,,whathell areyou?,

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SantaBarbera,,island,California.,
,,,vertical rock from 9 feetsdeep(3 yards)to 40feet up(justover 13 yards?),very scenic sand swoops down sloop into deepest blue,,,oooowaitheresaglow moving up the sloop,,a big WHITE glowy thing foggy approach?,
,BIG WHITE!THING!!, look for hidey hole~,NONE!
,,,noknife,,,just me against WHITEY!,ya im abouto DIE!,
,,,,,,,flows up from the DEEEEP,,comes into focus,,ELEPHANTHANK GOD!,
,,seaelephantakes alap,,headstraight for ME!,ooOONO! its payback time for when i rubbed thelephants ASS when hehauled up!,
,,elephant passuper close underme,,curled up fetal my fins brushed down back,,,BIGGGGGG with scars everywheres,,slid back down the sloop intothe DEEP,,didnt even take one breath.,impressed,,,thankfull norape.

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It's been almost a year since the last climbing thread on /out/ died. The thread on /xs/ is overwhelmingly focused on gym climbing, so I'm making this attempt to revive the general. Help out by sharing trip reports, photos, advice, etc.

A place to talk about outdoor climbing in any aspect (trad, sport, bouldering, aid, alpine, etc).

Rock Climbing is a dangerous sport that can cause loss of life, limb, eyesight, or sanity.

Off-belay:
https://archived.moe/out/thread/2610900
https://archived.moe/out/thread/2537031
https://archived.moe/out/thread/2495558

/xs/ thread:
>>>/xs/196297

Adam Ondra sends world's hardest trad route Bon Voyage: https://youtu.be/ji4At78H5Ys
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>>2728674
I tried half ropes on a meandering slab and it doubled the rope drag. I'm guessing that's why American trad is mostly on singles, because we have the slabs.
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>>2731765
Ah yeah I've done that one. I'm no hardman but it's a pretty easy solo when it's dry; not even 5.5.

I've never been to Waikiki with a rope but I've always wanted to. That anchor looks simultaneously bomber and sketch as fuck.
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Recently recleaned this near-forgotten problem to project. Super-nice rock, over the bulge with no real holds, just friction.
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Fuck yeah, climbing general, it's been too long.

So far this season at the Gunks has been great. Been pushing grades way beyond what I'd hoped for and having a ton of fun cruising up routes that were a challenge just a couple years ago.
Looking forward to ticking off all the classic 5.8-5.9's and testing myself on the 10's where it really starts to get interesting.
Any NE anons want to get after it hit me up.
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>>2732859
That's awesome man. Post some pictures! I've found that I'm actually climbing weaker than I was a couple of years ago. Not a huge surprise since life has been kicking my ass recently, but still disappointing. I'm gonna have to get back on the hangboard.

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Anyone got any experience with bivvy bags? I'm looking into buying one on the cheaper end. There's tyvek ultralight bags, there's heavier ones, weight isn't a huge concern for me personally but I like light stuff if it's reasonably durable. Rain and mosquitoes are my primary concerns, I'd like a face cover of some kind
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>>2729024
In NZ we carry them in case we’re caught out unexpectedly. They’re uncomfortable af, but better than a night in the rain or snow.
99% of the time it’s a night in a back country hut with a fire. Rare to see anyone except on the most popular walks.
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>>2726610
the only thing a bivy bag is good for is sparing some poor EMS worker the trouble of stuffing your bloated carcass into a body bag because it's already inside one
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>>2731880
This, bivvys are very dangerous. My uncle used one in the rain and he didn't know that waterproof meant not waterproof; he drowned
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>>2726610
US MILITARY BIVVYS
"SLEEPING SYSTEM"
OMG. i dont camp regularly now but me and an old friend scored under 50$ bivvy sacks easily.
as we tested them out, we realized they were OP as FUCKK - goretex, camo, 0 condensation, rough, easy to stuff in pack. rain tested and completely viable. I took it far and camped on the california coast with them without any sleeping bag - i just had an emergency blanket and a pad - i got SO DAMN COLD but it was survivable. also that night there were dozens of mice that bit at the bag and the open area at the top. i forget if i needed it to be open in order to breathe better or w/e. i cant remember, sorry. but yeah, in full rain you can take these out and hop in with your bag and pad and not be worried in teh slightest.
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>>2732840
Woodland MSS bivy is peak aesthetics

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Homestead General /hsg/
> Biochar Edition
> Thread #07

Talk gardening, farming, livestock, beekeeping, building, electricity and plumbing, earthworks, waterworks, permaculture, raising children, market gardening, selling produce, barter, home economics, composting, mulching, pest control, diet, health.
Anything relevant to living on site, making a home out of the land.

Old Thread: >>2676468
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What do you guys think of all the small/local farms and home gardens that are being shut down in the US and Europe?
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>>2731925
if they dont comply with regulations, then they get closed. If they comply with regulations it gets expensive. But the big companys are somehow able to survive, arnt they?
So in total, they need to step up their game if they wanna keep their farm, some middle aged farming techniques with old ass machines doesnt work today.
Same as jobs are being laid off because people dont wanna educate themself.
>dont educate yourself somewhere else.
Its easy being lazy and reap the same rewards as someone who does R&D.
Our whole land is contaminated with nitrate, it stinks everywhere, its bad for the soil in the long term as the bad parts of shit go deeper into our water thus why water treatment facilitys need to up their cleaning capacitys. Its like to clean up after yourself.
The planet is not yours, you cant do whatever you want, you can on a small scale as a hobby, but as soon you get money, there will be people watching.

Anyway, why are the small/local farms are being shut down from your point of view?
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>>2732096
>Anyway, why are the small/local farms are being shut down from your point of view?
Greed, of course. Possibly Agenda 21/30 conspiracy where they intend to prevent everyone from growing their own food so a large portion of the population dies of starvation while the rest is forced to eat bugs.

Your post is confusing, btw. You list these things big corpos do but get away with, then blame small farmers and hobby gardeners.
Organic small farmers (such as the Amish and others) don't use the synthetic fertilizers contaminating everything; they don't need to. Neither are they trying to cheat the system someway; people are simply willing to pay more for the health and quality of their products. Yet they are the ones getting targeted and forced to sell their land for cheap.
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>>2732096
>$1 shopping credit has been deposited to your monsanto-fanclub membership card
Small farms still feed more than half of the world population with much less land, industrial inputs and funding. They also keep the genetic diversity of our crops and domestic animals alive and are generally less harmful to soil, water and natural ecosystems.
Small farms have just been taken out to remove competition for agrochemical cooperations. All regulations and laws are written by their lobbyists. They are trying to even make exchanging your own seeds illegal ffs. You already need a loicense to sell seeds and it needs to be from registered variants. Supporting this is suicide on a civilization level.
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>>2724900
Weed bad


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