Dudes I went to high school with now have house, wife kids truck dirt bikes side x sides and fuckhuge camper trailersI'm fucking disgruntled
>>2661687This right here. The amount of motherfuckers in Canada who fit right into this description is insane. They dress with designer clothing, always have a Starbucks coffee with them at any time of the day, latest car/smartphone. But that's not even the thing that really pisses me off about these fucking people, its really the misplaced sense of security in themselves that they have, not realizing that the only reason they have such high self-esteem is because they never had to break their backs working, and even if they did "work", it would be some summer job that they know they can quit at any time because they have rich or well off parents to fall on. The level of optimism these spoiled shits have is only protected by their parents finances. The moment their parents (for whatever reason) lose their financial stability, they will rope themselves due to the sudden realization that they will have to actually work and probably not even manage to get the lifestyle they used to have (seen cases like this).
>>2659347FpbpTurns out I'm rich, and all the people I thought were rich are in serious debt. But here's the thing, they're all having a great time right now, this very second and I'm living off tinned food. They're counting on inheritances to clear their debt, some will get them. I won't inherit shit, so all said and done they might end up having a better life than me. Economics is a scam, we should just gas the bankers
>>2659347and dead parents
>>2720364>>2711683fuck off we're full bru
>>2714727>being able to use a computer at adult level is being very privilegedOff yourself nignig
Europe isn't known for it's dangerous fauna and predators, but in the Alps there are bears, wolves and foxes, and also boars in the pre alps, I don't know much about them but I want to learn more.I'm about to go to the admaello national park in the alps for a 2day outing and i got the (irrational?) fear of getting jumped by a pack of wolves or a nigger bear while i sleep.I'll be between 1800m (start) and 2800m(end)ITT we discuss the topic of predators and dangerous animals in the alps, where they are, how to prepare, defend yourself, and avoid them.
>>2730717>>2731023>taking them from slovenia.are there bears and wolves in slovenian alps? i was thinking of visiting grintovec and triglav
your fear is irrational. the only reason you get attacked by a bear while asleep is because you didnt store your food properly, and no just leaving it far from your tent is not enough, and still teaches the bear to look for human food. hanging should only be done on a tree with at least a 10ft limb 20 ft up, so requires a decent amount of cord. the safest thing for yourself and the bears is to just use a bear can
>>2730717Learn how to affix a knife to a sturdy straight branch, making a small spear. 10 minutes of handywork creates a weapon that has decided the outcome of history countless times. You only need a handle of say 30 cm to fend off various animals and the if you put the sheath on the blade it can be kept in your pack. Then again, you don't want to be seen walking through quaint Alpish towns with what looks like a brutal improvised weapon, so...
>>2731136I always have my big knife hanging from my belt and no one ever even acknowledged it, idk they even saw it, and they talk with me and chat no problem, dont think they give a shit
anyone here ever had some encounters?I met a pack of boars in the pre alps while going up a super steep off trail muddy incline where I had to be on my knees with a stick to go up, and those guys just ran down like it was nothing, it they charged me I would've been absolutely fucked, pretty cool and scary experience.also met a mother and baby deer or something like that, in the middle of the road in a very small and full of tight curves road, and when I started honking they didnt go innawoods but kept running along the road, not very smart, if another car arrived while we were there it could've needed in a car crash and the deers would've been rekt
Which one is the ultimate pair of boots for out?I'm deciding between Alpina's Tundra model: https://www.lamnia.com/en/p/19054/apparel-and-footwear/alpina-tundra-46Or its Trapper model: https://www.lamnia.com/en/p/19021/apparel-and-footwear/alpina-trapper-boots
>>2732347i was thinking of horned viper. i'll probably see common european viper too, but i'm not so afraid of them
>>2732299What is Saucony?
>>2732620Named after Saucony Creek Pennsylvania. One of the oldest American shoe companies still in production. Owned by Wolverine at the moment.
>>2732629You are suppose to say saucon deeznuts
>>2732633Oh. Saucon-deez-nuts, faaaaaaag!
Why does the North East have so much SOVL bros? Vermont and New Hampshire are the best states I've ever been to in this country.
>>2713905yeah too bad they vote to flood the country with immigrants. Go fuck yourself bradley you fucking faggot
>>2713841true
Vermonster here. If any of you want to meet up in Southern Vermont to get a beer and do a trail, let me know and I'll drop my Telegram here.
>>2732571>Vermontbloody Yangeese
>>2713853God damn.
What are the best long distance walks in Europe?
>>2692749UK SW coastpath is good and missing from your map. Also London has several long distance hikes in it, in spirals, if you want to experience something different. You could stay at the same hotel and get public transport to/from each days start. It wouldn't be out-out, but you would get jaw-dropping views time (albeit brief) away from the noise in Richmond park hampstead heath etc, and experience a lot of culture along the way. You can make it strenuous by doing at a different pace to usual etc. >https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/walking/top-walking-routes
>>2692749The GR20 is considered one of the most beautifull and pretty difficult, not the longest tho 180Km, 11/15 days https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentier_de_grande_randonn%C3%A9e_20https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L7bovqnVkI&ab_channel=%E9%87%8E%E7%94%9F%E7%88%B1%E7%8E%9BEmmaOutTherehttps://gr20-infos.com/en/accueil/
>>2707347>Europeans aren’t into itDude what the fuck.Mountain ranges in Europe are always busy with hikers from spring to fall, certain mountains where I live (Tatra) are memed to oblivion because they're genuinely crowded with people, especially on the holidays.A lot of people in Europe do what you'd call hiking and other outdoor stuff, it's just they don't treat it like their whole personality, don't buy tons of gear and scream about it on the internet.Also there isn't a big outdoor sleeping culture here because there are hotels all around you and for a lot of people it just doesn't make sense, unlike in America where there are no options for sleeping outside a tent in a lot of places.
>>2707347>a handful of European companies that make decent hiking gear>literally half of the high end alpine/hiking footwear manufacturers are europeanever heard of salomon, asolo, scarpa, zamberlan, hanwag, and so on, what the fuck
>>2692749I'm working my way through the Scandinavian bits of the E6. So far it's been very enjoyable. https://www.traildino.com/trace/continents-Europe/countries-Sweden/trails-E6
whats your EDC?for me its a sheffield 16 in 1
>let me guessYou need more
I'm in the middle of clearing 30 years of bullshit out of my parents' 90+ year old house and prepping the place for sale in a few weeks so I'm EDCing a fixed blade and flashlight right now. >>2729365I don't know how anybody gets by without at least a small pocketknife, at least in the US where so many things come in packages that are a nightmare without one. I've always got at least a Swiss Army or Case knife in my pocket unless I'm going somewhere with metal detectors.
>>2732488>carries and empty phone caseKinda weird.
>>2731558>TamagochiYeh. Digimon X. Newer version, backwards compatible.The smaller thing is a thumby. It's dope as hell, but it's a novelty. You can't really use it as a keychain unless you can cut your own screen protector for it. It has some surprisingly decent games though. The best ones aren't twitch based due to the tiny controller. Mini golf, puzzle games etc. there are tiny rogue-likes that are decent but a little under featured.Maybe more now, been a while since I looked.
I don't carry a whole bunch of shit around but I'm starting a farm job soon so perhaps I'll be able to contribute something then
Do you guys bring any instruments with you when you go /out/? Im considering picking up a naf, harmonica, or small travel guitar to maybe jam a bit when im camping overnight.
Would I be a dick if I brought an alto sax or something
>>2729266Surely you aren't suggesting anybody drags "university-level stuff" and "way more pro stuff" with them on a hike, nor is that price range what I would recommend to a "beginner" (the first post you replied to). Especially not when they plan on taking them /out/side.You can get alright, playable, decent-sounding violins (well, fiddles), guitars of any sort and banjos at a price range where it isn't a huge pain in the ass and the wallet when the rain and moisture eventually and inevitably gets to it (i.e. less than 300 bucks). Pic related, 270 bucks new and plays like a charm. As you said, steel-string guitars are even easier to find in this respect. I have a 12-string that I couldn't have paid more than 150 for at the time, and a Soviet-era parlor guitar that I picked up on the cheap (50 bucks lmao). Both sound fine and hold up well outside.I'm going to ignore the brass band and drum comment for obvious reasons: not /out/.
>>2731297Patrician choice
>>2715720if i was at a campground i'd rather someone have a guitar than a fucking bluetoothat least they'll just strum for maybe 30min until their fingers get sore and they stop.
Moving out to Oregon for a job: near the cesspool called Portland. Any suggestions on places to hike for someone who has never been in the NW.
>>2731834Only worth going on an off day. Especially when the trail narrows, it's not fun having to hug the rock wall cause some man shaped like a bowling ball is taking up the whole path.
>>2729460I doubt anyone wants to live in Portland. If only there were high paying jobs less than an hour away from work: ow wait, that's basically anyone in Colorado.
>>2726504Olympic is top tier, but overcrowded. Cascades are worth the drive. I recommend any trail overlooking the Skagit River. The prominence of the mountains around make the view breathtaking.
>>2725908bump
>>2725908Beacon Rock is like an hour drive away in Washington. They've got some pretty neato rock formations.
>Can I see your Angel's Landing® National Parks Trail Permit™ please?>Oh you mean you don't have one? >That'll be a $200 + tip fine thenWhat would you do, /out/?
>>2731964line wasnt too bad because i went as early as possible. had tickets for circuit 4 but bribed security guard to let me onto the best cuircuit (circuit 2 has best views). its very touristy though, feels more like a museum than being /out/. peru overall had many tourist trap places and street shops but their currency sucks and food was cheap so unless youre room temp iq and cant barter for shit then you should be fine
Appreciate the advice, thank you anon.
>>2725691start hiking, if they want to tax me they have to earn the privilege to do so
Fuck yeah Climbing General, it's been too long.I've been having a blast this season at the Gunks so far.Got two new climbing partners that are around the same ability as me and it's allowing me to push my grades up a little more than in the past when I was climbing with a less able climber.Managed to onsight Never Never Land, my first 10b (on GunksApps, 10a mproj). Super technical slab climb with some fantastic committing movement. Also been super fun revisiting past climbs that felt like a challenge and now are just cruiser.Always on lookout for more partners if there's any NE anons that want to get after it. Looking to hit up some of the longer climbs up in NH.
>>2731960BASEDASEDThis one's going in the compilation
https://vrch.at/3dqt5b2aPretending to be outside with highly regarded individuals.
>>2732517VR is /in/. This is /out/. >>/v/
Man I liked his stuff but he really comes off as a prick
I think it's obvious someone either found him or got too close to finding him.
>>2688035>Read the textHe sounds fun, thanks for recommending the channel OP>>2709155Bookmarking these too, thanks
BUMP
>guy comes off as a smartass antisocial asshole in his videos>turns out to actually be onewoah, what a fucking surprise, who would have thought?>>2724948>he kept getting caught by the police and he pretended to sleep outside while living in hotel roomsi need a source for that
so i was just reading about how Mount Mckinley is the biggest mountain in the world base to summit because everest and several others bases are super high above sea level. what other mountains would be the tallest this way (obviously not that hawaiian silly shit thats underwater) as a hiker the height base to summit is alot more important than just plain altitude
>>2732435>a hiker the height base to summit is alot more important than just plain altitudeThis is kinda true but not entirely. As there is a huge physical difference between hiking at 6000m and hiking at 8000m. Also most Denali climbers cheat and fly into the glacier basecamp at 7000ft elevation instead of approaching purely on foot.
>>2732439yeah i understand the oxygen part is what makes everest so difficult and other super high altitude peaks
> as a hiker the height base to summit is alot more important than just plain altitudespoken like someone who has never experienced the difference in going up 2000m when starting from 0, 2000, 4000, or 6000m. 0 to 2000m shares nothing in common with 6000 to 8000 or 7000 to 8800. there's a reason 8000m+ is called the death zone. just being there will kill an average person in a few minutes, and even for the fittest people you get about 24 hours before you die from lack of oxygen.
Tallest mountain is in Hawaii under the sea and the difference between being under the sea and being 10000 ft above it is huge. You clearly have not been under the sea.
>>2732466Fuck the sea
So my friend from uni who I used to do easy /out/ trips has invited me to come visit him (moved to USA) and go camping all over the mid west and Western US for a month. I recently got a job but told them about this plan and they okayed me starting later so I literally have a month straight of camping.I am actually spooked about camping in dense woods in places like Pennsylvania (where we start), Michigan, Minnesota, even Black Hills in SD. I feel like out west it's more expansive and even if forested it's not as creepy (maybe I'm wrong).But I legit think I might blow it because I'm creeped out by the woods. Is it actually that creepy? I've done camping in UK and France and wasn't really afraid but this is my first time doing backcountry camping.
>>2731766>In the modern era nature is occult?It's about as evident in modern life as the occult, which is to say not at all, so it makes sense that people who have no understanding of either would collate them based purely on vibes.
>>2726016The scariest thing about this video is how he leaves a fire unattended.
Here in Oregon the two most scary thing in the woods are other people, and dry lighting. Both can be kind of terrifying. Luckily I have a really low fear tolerance. I don't feel fear much just get angry.
>>2726190(you)
It would be best if you had a kayak or canoe for Minnesota/Michigan if you are going to the NorthwoodsThere are black bear and wolves, no cougars or brown bearsIt's pretty spooky since there is a lot of bog and swamp mixed in
How well are you prepared for zombie apocalypse and what are you going to do about them pesky perky drones?
>>2731130That's what I'm trying to do. Alibaba prices the cans around $0.60 - so it must be less than that if they can make a few dozen and ship them around the world for a profit. I reached out to local packaging companies without luck. I looked for canneries within driving distance. Next I was planning on calling the local extension office, but it's not a common thing on my area (seems more common in Alaska to can fish).The Mormon's are into can sealing, but they use #10. I could try them too. Homebrewers are starting to can beer at a reasonable price, but those are different and don't fit my sealer
>>2729425First thing to expire is late 2026, the flour, I figure it'll last longer than that in the good storage conditions but once it nears expiration I'll take it out and start using it and replace with a new batch.>>2729507I found some instant coffee in cans that lasts for 3 years in normal storage conditions. If coffee gets rationed/stops coming I don't think people will give a shit if its shitty instant coffee>>2729928The sugar and salt is my least concern, they're in a dark cool place in airtight containers with de-moisturizing silica gel in them. It'll basically last forever
>>2729805>But a financial dip (not 99% unemployment) is much more likely.On one hand, yeah, financial crises are absolutely more likely than many other emergencies and probably the first thing most people should be prepping for. On the other hand, surely everyone already has financial security as a goal? Like, if you tell someone they should pay down their debt and have enough savings to ride out an illness or period of unemployment, aren't most people just going to say "yeah, I'm fucking trying". Maybe some people need the reminder.And it's not like a sensible amount of preps will have any real impact on someone's finances ... you're more paying down a mortgage for the cost of water filter, a first aid kit and a few dozen pounds of rice.
>>2729691this, my retirement is on track, house will be paid off in around 7 years. job security is better than average. I have a 12 month emergency fund. I have a couple guns and know how to use them. I could go 3 months without leaving for food, water, or fuel. If you camp and have a couple key items like a battery bank and solar you're pretty much set.people think they're going to die from roaming zombie hoards. they're really going to die from bad water, mal nutrition and infected scrapes because they don't have first aid supplies.
>>2731288>surely everyone already has financial security as a goal?nope. you'd be really surprised who shitty the average Americans personal finances are. like unbelievably bad. I work in finance. Half of people can't come up with 1000 dollars without putting it on credit. Half. Only about 20% are save more than 5% of their income a year. Financial shit hit the fan is coming for everyone. It might be an economic downturn or it might be nothing happening and getting to retirement age to find out social security means you're going to be eating nothing but rice and beans ever. a medical hiccup puts you into bankruptcy.No bad debt (anything but a house) and an emergency fund should be priority number 2. The only thing more important than that is your health.
hunters of /out/, what's the last thing you hunted & ate?The main thing to hunt where I live is deer, Venison is really good but its illegal to sell anything. I have some pelts but idk what to do with them
Also, you want to hunt elk because it's the same amount of work as deer, but you get double the meat and it's better tasting meat anyway. They're also easier to hunt because of the bugling, cow calling, size and color.
>>2731350christ you've got some long fingers
Badger
Last thing I've hunted and ate is a deer in my back field with my .50 cal flintlock, next hunting season I want to try an get an elk. For that trip I might bring a 30-06
>>2732203agarthan phenotype
