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Anon from the West Grand Division of Tennessee, and currently at a small lodge in Pigeon Forge (with family).
I have the problem of trying to find something to do that isn't just a drain on the wallet for the next 4 days. We were planning on going hiking but it seems like it is gonna be rained out pretty hard. I've been here before plenty and would like to see/know some stuff that is uncommon but still fun.
(I personally was wanting to go to an art or model railroad museum but it seems like they are either too far away or more-so a glorified store front)

(Use this as East TN general if yall want)
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could you head to Knoxville and do some bar hopping, or is it too far?
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>>2660289
Knoxville is a bit too far and my younger brother would be left out, I could get to Townsend or Sevierville though (I have no idea what is in Pittman Center though)
We're thinking maybe an escape room, but usually escape room groups are like 5 or 6 people from what I've seen and it's only three of us.
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>>2660286
Mt. Leconte is a great hike. Honestly those areas are such tourist traps. The aquarium is ok I guess.
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>>2660300
Thank you anon, my family was able to go the Ford show today which was pretty nice. Still got suckered into spending money but I found some tools for cheap (that I could use for diorama-ing)

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Planning something like picrel with frens. I'm a big historyfag, so I need anons help with writing down an itinerary. I don't want to go to Little Africa in Paris and leave without seeing the history.
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>>2659754
Basically why everyone is travelling to Asia for cheap safe fun.
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>>2659754
>Eastern Europe boring.
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>>2659754
Where did you go?
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>>2659729
I mostly know eastern history. Western cucks don't concern me but I'm willing to learn for this trip
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>>2660172
What is a "fun" Eastern country? Pooland? No forests, no nature, the same shitty city over and over. Maybe if you're black, their women are the world's biggest coalburners.

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How does one know if they are banned from entering a country or something?

My mates and I are looking to go to Japan come this summer to some warm beaches but we have one of our friends who caused issue last time. Problem is he had a slight bump in with the law there, basically wandered into one of those police boxes drunk and tried to hire a taxi on the phone they had. Got a big guy yelling at him in the office as I was catching up to him to walk back to our hostel. He's now scared they got his face and prints off the phone and will arrest him at the border because of issue people like Johnny Somolia and other youtubers giving foreigners a negative light. I think he's lost it a bit from the online stuff.

I've told him that they police probably get idiots doing that all the time and it wouldn't even be worth the paper work to even file something so small. I don't even think customs even would look at some small infraction since I've heard other people spending the night in a drunk tank but going back to Japan without issue. Right?

Any advice we really need a 4th person to help keep the costs down for an airbnb. Has anyone been in a situation like this?
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>>2659222
>t. Brit
Seriously, Brits are absolutely disgusting. I grew up in Britain and my white friends' houses would smell of raw pork all the time, their body odour is absolutely gross when they get even slightly sweaty. Also they wear shoes inside the house, don't shit for days at a time sometimes, and are way more prone to getting cancer and shit like that. Plus all my Brit friends were just academically and generally retarded in a way that wasn't even endearing, like they had no desire to expand their knowledge or excel. And the funny thing is that I know a few of them probably went on to be users of this site who constantly moan about Chinese or Indian people stealing their jobs. The truth is not that all whites are bad because Mediterranean people and a few other European nationalities (e.g., Greeks) are pretty nice people, but Brits and Ameriturds are absolute scum and I feel shame when I have to share any given vicinity with them while in Japan.
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>>2656958
Escorted straight from plane into Japanese prison, 23 days of solitary and questioning, if he doesn't crack that might be the end of it
Happened to me after I had sushi during my layover and accidentally mixed wasabi into the onions sauce
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>>2659229
>first country ever visited was Japan outside Canada
>always thought that us americans were the worst possible tourists and there was just no debate
>go to Japan try to be on good behavior thinking I am doing everything wrong because dumb amerikun
>check into hostel LOUD ASS FUCKING BRITS HEARD DOWN THE HALLS
>drunk ass brits at 3PM in the kitchen/common area
>stumbling brits all over the place I go to get a drink+food(yes was the hub and shut up it was the closest thing after a long ass flight)
>use shit as their playground without any care for the cars in the streets, walk signs, signs saying NO CAMERA, or shit
>question who the fuck was behind all those 'mutts are worst tourist posts!'

Unless I'm mistaken cops have to formally arrest/charge/convict to have any kind of entry ban in place. Probably should avoid that Koban for a good while but I'm 99% certain anons have done even far dumber worse shit black out drunk and managed to come back in.

Johnny Somoli was arrested like other YT idiots because they straight up documented EVERYTHING and continued to do it rather than a one and done incident.
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>>2656995
>The Japanese government isn’t an omniscient super being
It's not hekkin CSI miami levels of tech?!?!?

You're telling a cop wouldn't follow up on some drunk idiot wouldn't get their prints taken to the lab and then to the police chief to sign off on for forwarding to border security to look out for some guy who might never return to the country on the whim they did a nono like what OP's friend did?


J-japan has truly fallen the last samurai weeps... OWARI DA!!!!!
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>>2660269
if you want to be schizo then stay home. nobody gives a fuck about some random drunk guy, especially the lazy Japanese police.

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Hello everyone I'm 18 years old about to graduate end of May. Been living in my home town all my life, went to oklahoma once as a kid, but that doesn't count.
I've never been anywhere, don't have my passport and see all my friends going on trips in the summer, springbreak, after high school etc. Makes me depressed. I just want to leave and do something exciting for cheap, especially since I still need money for college.
Any travel advice is appreciated.
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>>2658357
actually good idea i never realized how cheap flights to Hawaii were so I definitely might consider.
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>>2658363
Hawaii is simultaneously cheaper than most people think, but still more expensive than you'd like once you get there. There is a tourist zone in Hawaii called Waikiki, you might have heard of it, thats where the boomer money is, and as expensive as it gets. i'd be wary there but still, if you're there for cheaps, there's still Hawaiian food in gas stations believe it or not like 7/11 has musubi and moco locos, food trucks, and a bunch of cheap island food everywhere

beaches free, lots of hiking and walking trails. if you can find a buddy and rent a car, that'll really open up the island like the North Shore otherwise you can use a bus (bus goes all around the island) which is fine but takes longer. you can check out volcano craters, reefs, all kinds of cool stuff, just watch videos. plus you meet all kinds of people especially at a hostel, seasoned expert travellers or young bucks like yourself like other 18 year olds and early 20s just checking it out

good travelling kid
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>>2658366
Waikiki has a lot of cheap Jap shit. You can get good (actual Japanese style not americanized) food at little hole in the wall places and you can get a tall can of beer from an ABC store for a couple bucks.
Hotels and hotel restaurants tend to be a lot though.
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>>2658356
idk where in the US you are but most major cities will have at least one European city you can fly to cheaply, usually London. Once you're in Europe it can be very cheap to move around.
having a quick look at google flights
NYC --> London $140
Miami --> London $150
Dallas --> London $180
Chicago --> London $190
San Francisco --> Dublin or Barcelona $200

if money is a concern, i'd get one of these to London and then head to Eastern Europe where it's cheaper.
flights London to Europe are dirt cheap
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>>2660108
Good idea might have to get my passport and try this might be worth the wait

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I can't think of anything more useless than wanting to go abroad. Since I was a little kid it never made sense to me. Humans are isolationist on principle so it seems like a contradiction to want to encroach upon another tribe's turf in the first place. Even then, it's so much easier and far more fulfilling to just use the Internet to learn about a foreign place instead of spending all the money to physically go there, and inevitably waste more time walking around than having an interesting experience. I hear all the time about how you'll meet unforgettable people, immerse yourself in their culture, yadda yadda, but there's no way this is true. You're still an outsider to the locals, and you still don't know anything about their customs, their language, their landmarks, their food, their government... It just feels so stupid to me.

Maybe I'm the asshole here but I wish we could just appreciate other countries from afar and not infringe upon them. I don't care if it's for school, or business, or sex, it just seems weird. I read up on what an embassy was the other day and it made me genuinely mad, that there are these little pockets all over the world where a foreigner can go and be patronized instead of having to even pretend like they care about the natives. How is that not at least a little fucked up?

Anyways, TL;DR is that I think traveling is inefficient and stupid, maybe even disrespectful, and that you'd be far better off watching travelogues on YouTube or searching for local websites. The context doesn't matter, the whole concept is off to me.
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>>2654580
I travel to take pretty pictures
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>>2654580
>Humans are isolationist on principle
What the fuck am I reading
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>>2654580
>Humans are isolationist on principle so it seems like a contradiction to want to encroach upon another tribe's turf in the first place
Louder for the pajeets at the back
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>>2660240
Yes, traveling made me racist

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How do you guys carry your passport when you travel?

I usually keep it in my front pants pocket when I’m in the airport along with any other important IDs, permits, boarding passes, etc. for easy access, but recently I had an incident where I was in a rush to catch a bus and dropped a very important ID card at some point between passport control and customs and would’ve been fucked had an airport security guard not tracked me down to return it. This made me think that it’s time to get a passport holder.

My only concern is that holders are rather bulky and an obvious target for pickpockets when outside the airport. I had a pretty scary incident once when I was stopped by local police in a foreign country when I wasn’t carrying my passport and I almost ended up going to jail, so since then I always make sure it’s on me when I’m outside the hotel.

What about you anons, any suggestions?
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>>2660036
I mean, I obviously do it when travelling internationally too since my only photo ID is a passport.
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>>2660048
Congrats, that's retarded as hell if you have the ability to get any other form of ID but you do (you) anon.
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I put it in my man purse
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>>2660050
What other photo ID is there? PASS cards barely work in the UK, let alone internationally. I don't own a car and don't plan to, so why would I get my drivers license?
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>>2660200
>PASS cards barely work
Anon, if they aren't letting you into the club because they don't like your PASS it's (YOU) are the problem not your card.

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Beyond basic politeness, I just don't care to try to get to know the local people when I travel. They're just going about their day-to-day lives, and I don't want to bother them. When I'm at home, I'd find it obnoxious if some random stranger came up to me chatting and wanting to get to know me. I've read a lot on here and other travel-related forums that a big part of traveling is interacting with local people, and I guess I just don't get it. Some guy working in a restaurant or some guy out in public who had just gotten off of work probably doesn't really want to waste time talking to a tourist but may play along to be polite. It strikes me as self-centered behavior as if the "locals" are exotic zoo animals that should be studied.
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>>2659346
Well, I don't think when people say "interacting with local people" that they mean walking up and harrassing some locals just trying to go about their business. Or trying to strike up a conversation with someone on their way to work. I never took it to mean that, who would do that? It would be rude and presumptive. Interacting doesn't mean just strolling up to a random stranger.

When people say traveling is about "interacting with local people, " I believe that to mean that you're patronizing local owned businesses and shops, restaurants, etc (over just staying in a foreign-owned resort and eating at the resort restaurants.) It means walking through the town's market to get a feel for the community and culture. Or signing up for a cooking class run locally. Or going to see a local music performance. Browsing the local shops. This often comes with brief interactions with the locals running these businesses. It's all part of interacting. Basically getting out into the town and among the people, instead of just staying in a sterile resort or hotel setting.
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>>2659346
I think it sounds a bit antisocial, but it’s honestly not that weird—I think very few travelers really get to know much at all about locals apart from the ones that are interacting with them in various transactions.

I (and many others, obviously) have gone just a bit deeper from time to time; I am a musician, and go out of my way to see a lot of local live music, so I’ve met and hung out temporarily with a lot of musicians (and fans). I’ve also stayed with locals in a handful of places, when I had friends introduce me to their friends on the ground. But I honestly don’t actually like doing that very much—I can enjoy taking a random local out for a meal, or having someone show me around for a few hours, or accompanying me to an event, but I far prefer having my own space to return to. I actually just turned down an invitation to Sweden for Midsommar because I didn’t want to be stuck in the cottage and with the family of a woman I barely know (a former co-worker of my wife’s) on a small island, even though she made Midsommar sound sort of fun.

Oh, and I also hung out with a lot of locals when I was living somewhere long-term and could speak the local language comfortably, but that’s different.

But on most of my trips I’m mostly interacting with my family, and just observing locals at a distance. I am OK with that.
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>>2659357
thanks bourdain
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>>2659346
When I visited the US so many people would strike up conversations with me
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The problem is that locals in third world countries are often retards who can barely write their own name. What am I supposed to talk about with them? World affairs?

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Felix Kjellberg (Pewdiepie) lives in Japan with his Italian wife and their infant mixed race (Nordic/Mediterranean) infant son, Bjorn. However, he’s made a terrible mistake.

Japan is a unique culture. It is a racially homogenous ethnostate. Anyone who is not racially Japanese is considered a foreigner, and can NEVER be truly accepted. You see where I’m going here?

Despite being BORN IN JAPAN, the kid will always be viewed as an outsider. Even though he was born there, he will never be accepted, because he is not racially Japanese.
Imagine being a foreigner in your own country. What will be the psychological effects on the kid, as he realises that he will always be a Gaijan, even in the country where he was born and grows up in.
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>>2643800
>Despite being BORN IN JAPAN, the kid will always be viewed as an outsider. Even though he was born there, he will never be accepted, because he is not racially Japanese. Imagine being a foreigner in your own country.
This is a pretty big misconception about Japan. The longer you live there the more you're expected to assimilate with the country.
https://youtu.be/bx3gFfYDsYg?t=1320
Just being an N1 and getting a bachelor's from a japanese university gets you over half way to permanent residency.
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>>2658924
That's not related to living in Japan retard
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imagine being bjorn (lol) a white chad in japan. You'd be a huge hit with the cute japanese girls
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>>2643800
Nordics and mediterranean are 2 different White subraces you mongoloids.Its not race mixing
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>>2645246
>he thinks whiteness is based on looks
This is why I keep the map.

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Thinking of going to Tijuana next month.
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Thinking of going to mcdonalds next week.
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>>2658442

Tijuana is literally a mexican slum. You have bad taste anon. If you are going to visit that violent shithole where you cant trust anyone, go south and visit some of the best pyramids in the world.
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Thinking of buying a Tijuana bible next month.

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Women: OMG!! This is sexual harassment!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJtl4E72kB4

Why are they like this?
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>>2659082
>>2659089
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>>2659089
I was seated next to a fat woman named Jany on my flight. She ate cheetos and smelled terrible. Now that I think about it, she had a beard and cankles. Once the flight took off, I wrapped my belt around her neck until she no longer breathed. Stupid Jany.
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>>2659082
That's what he gets for not being an 8/10, fat fuck
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>>2659089
Missing the "what to do in this tiny country that I or no one else on Earth ever visits"
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>>2659762
This but unironically

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I finally got bitten by those mfs at the hostel, and it was a nightmare. Thankfully, I received a full refund, and they closed the room with four beds, don't know how long they will though. Have you ever had a bed bug experience?
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>>2658011
I was sleeping on a forchun bed and a fat bitch named Jany, who looked like a fat disgusting human bed bug and who spent too much time on tranime boards tried to get in my bed. I took out my boots and stepped on Janys face repeatedly until stupid Jany died for being a dumb censoring cunt.
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Yes for the first time in my life encountered these dumb fuckers. A few days of getting bit all over, it's dead and gone now but the bites still haven't fully healed. This is a couple weeks later. When you stay in some cheap old building in a small balkan town you should expect this shit.
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>>2658011
What is it? A spider?
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First solo international trip was to Paris. Woke up with my body covered and there being literally hundreds of them on the bed. Unfortunately I'm not exaggerating. It looked like a fucking ant swarm covering the bed. I'd always assumed these little fuckers were flea sized, but they're nearly as big as ladybugs. The nightmares lasted a few years afterwards and still I'll wake up a couple times a year and inspect every corner of my bed with a flashlight because I dreamed something bit me.
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You're more likely to get bed bugs at the airport than you are at a hotel surprisingly.

Most people get bit by mites or flea's rather than bedbugs

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i saved up 20 thousand to blow on my vacations. should i go to dubai or paris?
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>>2655704
I went clubbing there in the summer. I would get out of the club at like 2am and the sun was already coming out. Made me feel like absolute shit.
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>>2650320
Are you going alone? You should invite a /trv/anon to be your wingman/ drinking buddy/ backup and pay my way, that would make it way more fun
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>>2650320
go to paris, stay in a cheap flea infested hostel and drink beer in public, you can do it on the cheap
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>>2650320
For 20k you could buy some taste and still have some left over to visit somewhere that's not a shithole
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>>2650320
You're retarded for wanting to go to either. so who cares.

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I've grown up in the DMV my entire life and I am now starting to make some decent money and consider moving. I genuinely hate living in this area, DC has a good metro system but the traffic in this area genuinely depresses me, I hate the culture here and the only reason I've I would even consider staying here is the Dulles Airport.

So I've been considering moving to Tempe, AZ since that area has really interesting nature and has everything else that I already use at home. If I'm being honest I've been afraid of committing to moving since I'd be completely alone across the country even though I think I'd have a better life. I'm also considering moving to Nashville and Denver.

Thoughts?
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>>2653811
Well, Los Angeles has some natural features to it that can make living in that area worthwhile no matter what but for the most part, the reason you’d try to go to New York or Los Angeles is to make it. You’re not supposed to go there and rest on your laurels. You’re supposed to go there to make more money and in the process be able to afford to live there. Still, if you like New York but dislike the cost of living, check out Chicago. It’s a lot like New York but much cheaper and cleaner too. Philadelphia and Boston are also a lot like New York in many ways but Philadelphia is a lot dirtier and has more crime while Boston is a lot more expensive. I personally like Pittsburgh and Seattle. Obviously, Miami and Las Vegas can be fun but can also leave a bad taste in your mouth. The whole mountain West can be fun but you need either money or a ski bum sort of lifestyle. I dont see any reason to go to Arizona to be honest with you. Arizona and New Mexico are where Californians and Mexicans flee too, except Santa Fe. Santa Fe is kinda cool.

I think your problem here is you’re looking for a place to go but you’re not looking to do anything in particular to do, and so you have no particular reason to go anywhere in particular.
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we are full. stay in your faggy troon state.
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>>2653783
I've lived in Arizona for most of my life and I hate East coast dweebs. We're full.

Phoenix is an endless fractal suburban hellscape with very limited containment areas that are nice. You can't afford to live in the nicest areas anyway. You can't cope with the heat. Our politics suck but you'll make it worse. You'll think the culture sucks, but it's because everyone can tell you're an outsider. Arizona is full of people who moved here trying to escape the ruins of their past life, who thought that AZ was the intersection of cheap and exotic. Most of them end up as annoying losers, because that's what they started as and AZ isn't going to magically change you. Eastoids can't change.
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>>2653783
There is nowhere nice to live anymore. And the best places to live won’t let you in. Also, you are American so you are barely a tier higher than a Chinese tourist to a true first-worlder
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>>2653873

Los Angeles has some of thee worst "latinos" on the planet. Just dealing with those beaners is enough for me to reject living there.

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World maps are fun but I like how USA/Canada look together so let's do a map of these places.
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>>2660098
>All that flyover and poojet locations

Good morning sirs!
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>>2660098
Dakotas are comfy as fuck. South Dakota is a great state for out door stuff, even Nebraska has comfy badlands to camp in. Same with ND. But yea I gotta explore more of the plains and south. I also gotta get out to BC and Alberta for camping. And maritime Canada is big on my bucket list.

>CTRL+ F: africa
>zero results

just a few years ago it seemed like africa was becoming cool but that seems to have dissipated. what is the reason for this? the resurgence of jihadism? the chronic eternal poverty? the threat of war doesn't seem to deter you guys from wanting to visit taiwan or SEA. so what happened to africa? i'm planning a world tour and wondering if I should just skip africa altogether.
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>>2652071
bump for this question, i also wanna know
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>>2649052
Sub-saharan Africa has few rewards for travellers. The tourist infrastructure is absolutely horrible, designed to rip off rich middle-aged Americans on their first safari, not cater to naive backpackers. There are few historical sights. Large cities are congested crime-ridden shitholes. Public transport is non-existent or extremely unsafe. Nightlife is poor. Nature is nice, but there are no marked trails and wildlife and criminals pose a serious threat. The food is bland and will give you the trots. The people are stupid, unfriendly and live in abject poverty, and because of that see you as a walking money bag.

Generally speaking of course. The continent is 3x the size of Europe, and it's not like literally every inch of it is shit. But in the end, you go to places like Madagascar just to say you've been to Madagascar. Everything Africa has to offer, can be found cheaper, safer and in better quality elsewhere.
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if you wanna see what the problem is, look up coastal resort pricing in places like kenya and tanzania

nobody is going to pay 2x as much as thailand for that
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>>2659295
If nothing else, the people in Africa are 900% cooler and kinder than you find among other tropical shitholes. I don't disagree with any of your points in particular, and yet I enjoy visiting Africa very much and I return there often. I think what you are lacking is an appreciation of what Africa is by itself. Instead you ask only what it can offer you, and how it compares to other places.
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>>2659369
>ask only what it can offer you, and how it compares to other places.
yeah...because my time is valuable, my resources limited, and safety paramount. is africa on the list? sure but its at the fucking bottom. maybe after i've exhausted all of asia, europe, latin america, and antartica it'll be worth my time.


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