Show me what you got
>/M/
I hope this isn't rude OP, but to ask, are you a regular?That aside, I always am fascinated by this sort of thing, namely because it lets you filter out and focus on some of the western artists who may or may not actually care about machines (much less giant robots) and who are rarely, if ever, enabled to actually make moving pictures involving them because the west simply does not care for it.
>>22634735Can I haz AI art
>>22634743Mazel Tov
>>22634743>>22634753Slop slurpers please go and stay go.
>>22634759This is a garbage AI knockoff of this classic piece by artist Alex Ichim.
>>22634768That version looks more like AI than the other one
>>22634768I legit don't get AI guys sometimes. Some guy in another thread described it well, it's like people trying to describe their dreams or some shit. Disappointing.
>>22634771It's from 2014, back when airbrushing combined with photobashing was starting to take off.https://www.deviantart.com/alex-ichim/art/Gunship-436644392Point is the AI is doing a garbage paintover of an original work, and it's blatantly obvious.
>>22634776I like the A.I. one better
>>22634771Nigga >>22634759 doesn't even have symmetrical air intakes or landing gear. Everything about he side nacelles are completely busted, there's two assymmetrical rows of boosters facing the wrong way, every single written piece of text on the thing is gobbledygook, the surface details on the entire thing are all pure clutter. If this is bait, congratulations.
>>22634781If someone posted the original for the first time ever yesterday you'd immediately accuse it of being A.I. and rightfully so. Not that it matters either way.
oh so it was just another AI shilling attempt
>>22634735Love this guy's stuff.
>>22634791No, I would not, becvause if you use your eyes it is both apparent and even obvious the original is not AI. Genuinely consistent details, legible, readable writing, actual logic with all of the parts depicted (e.g. both sides have symmetrical missile/bomb pods),an actual signature, and legitimate use of DOF distinguish it from an AI image. You are free to feel how you like but I would like to respectfully ask you not to tell me what my eyes are looking at.If you must enjoy your slop could you please do it elsewhere? I like looking at actual artwork.
>>22634771You’re an idiot and the reason why art is dying
>>22634855Metal Slug called, they want their tank tracks back
>>22634971How about posting some actual art instead of crying about stuff you don't like. I mean I get that a board made for giant robots and decades old japanese cartoons so a little bit of autism is to be expected, but crying about something you deliberately baited into being a subject of discussion because you assumed it would be present in a thread due to the subject matter is just childish.Pay no mind of course to all the other A.I. content in the thread that you've offered no criticism of or which directly contradicts your somewhat dated standards for what constitutes "obviously A.I.">>22635319Dude, that's just a screenshot from an Anime, I get that the definition of "Art" is broad in this context, but maybe get a touch bit more creative. At least this scribbled piece of shit >>22634755 was drawn by someone's four-year-old.
>>22635326Well, yes, I didn't "offer criticism" to all of the AI shit in here because I was replying to people saying stuff. It would do me no good to go mass-replying and whining even more. I can barely parse your second sentence: what the fuck did I do, exactly, to bait anyone? I responded with mild outrage to a ridiculous statement by an anon and listed the reasons for my disappointment, when contested I responded again with my logic as to why the response I was given I considered wrong. Where is the bait? If you want me to take a shot at identifying everything ITT as AI or not AI directly I can try for you, but arguably, would that not be even worse, seeing as it would be mass-replying while complaining?
>>22635355I like how your counter to A.I. art is low res screen shots of old ass anime. Do you really have nothing else to contribute to the thread with? Or is just listening to yourself talk good enough.Blow-Hards like you are all the same, you come in swingin' with hip-pocket arguments then the second you get the least bit of push back you start back-peddling and moving the goal post coming up with every excuse for your own low effort off-topic grand standing. Or maybe you'll go the route of pretending you don't really care despite obviously feeling compelled to post in the first place and going to great lengths to defend the authority of your opinion. Heck, maybe you'll pull a, "lol I troll u!", but either way your contribution to this thread will be nothing more than seeing who can get the last word in./m/ in a nutshell, "everything sucks", but you'll be damned if you provide an example of anything that's good because your greatest fear is being put in a position open to criticism.
>>22634735 I've got a whole folder of Transformers model sheets. I
>>22635355So shitposting gundam reaction images is your high ground. Says alot really.
>>22635372I prefer toyline concept art myself.
>>22635371Anon, not only did I not post any anime screenshots except for the reaction image I just used because I am tired of nonsense, but I am genuinely fucking baffled by your wall of text. I will attempt to respond to every point made in it, just as I did previously.If you want me to back up my statements, I can do so, if you so request it, which you have not. Would you like me to do that? I have gotten pushback from you or whoever multiple times and responded with rationale as to why I hold the opinions I do. I do care, and I don't even get how you could say I backpedaled or grandstood or whatever. I have been trying to respond to your statements as directly as possible while maintaining my points. Why the fuck are you on about "last word in" when I have quite directly asked you a series of answerable questions? >>22635373Not Gundam.
Why are you responding to the baiting AI jeet.
>>22635453I made the dire mistake of trying to reply to AI niggers in good faith with actual logic.
>>22635453Not them but those fuckers are everywhere. You can't go to any other board that isn't filled with slop bullshit. /m/ is one of the few intact boards. Wouldn't be surprised if those kinds of posters are GPT bots themselves. Doesn't help that jannies are taking money from these AI fucks. I almost guranteee that's why they got rid of the IP counter. So yeah there's a good chance that these bots are arguing with themselves or the actual humans are just arguing with bots.
>>22635463>So yeah there's a good chance that these bots are arguing with themselves or the actual humans are just arguing with bots.Anything to drive "engagement", I guess. A shame it comes at the cost of killing any real person's interest in a board. >>22635462Art thread, only way to combat it is to post real art.
>>22635463Personally I think the IP counter removal is just election year prep but I wouldn't be surprised if those turbo faggots really were in cahoots with the mods and shitting this place up even more. Dire fucking days.>>22635468I kind of did want to do this but my problem is that I don't want to get tangled up in a slop thread. The problem is, by not engaging in a slop thread or posting real work, like you say, you sort of automatically give ground to the AIfags in some way even if nobody but themselves actually likes slop.
In a way, I already got tangled in the slop thread, just not in the "posting artwork" sense and more in the obvious replying to bait sense.
>>22635488Hopefully de-antified
>>22635381If only post '86 Transformers looked anything close to these concepts. Everything in that picture looks fucking sick. Here's some cool stuff from Masterforce,
>>22635371Are you stupid?
Are there any good western mecha artists worth following?
>>22635609Some of my fave western mecha-centric artistshttps://x.com/Daylight44492/mediahttps://x.com/TheCountofS/mediahttps://x.com/Decacommand/media
>>22636031>>22636033>>22636037C'mon man.
>>22635373>gundam reaction imagesWatch more anime.
>>22636075what?
>>22636097It's all AI dude, it just ain't nice.
>>22636110C'mon man, what'd I just say?
>>22636131That one is a bit kibbly I'll admit, but I'm not exactly sure what the overt avertion to such pieces are outside of the principle of the matter? Most A.I. art doesn't look any worse than the low res air-brush photoshop stuff from the late 2000s and early 2010s.also, >>22636075 the middle one isn't even A.I.
>>22636142Are you particularly in the habit of lying on the internet?
Fuck's sakes you AI "people" make me retch.Not going to go over how this one is obvious.
>>22636145>>22636148
>>22636145>>22636148So you only dislike it because you know it's A.I.? Otherwise the image would be fine, but it's just the principle of it being a product of machine learning? I mean, that's your choice.Also, did you guys hear that adobe is including text-to-art tools in photoshop? Man, it's getting easier and easier to make art and the A.I. is getting better and better. Not sure when it will be past the uncanny valley, but it's only a matter of time.Hell, for all you know you're talking to an A.I. chatbot right now.
>>22636166No, I dislike it because in general it doesn't really seem pretty or thoughtful or indicative of anything. If you like it, that'd be fine, but it's mixed in with actual art by people I like seeing. I think that's a tremendous pity, but if you like it, you could at least try to be honest.
>>22636171Fair enough, I'll try to post it sparingly if at all.
>>22636166>So you only dislike it because you know it's A.I.?Anon maybe YOU are the problem as a disingenuous retard, who thinks people hate AI art on "principle" rather than the thing being connected to people who lie constantly. >Man, it's getting easier and easier to make art and the A.I.You are not making shit though. You copy and paste the work of an algorithm while dishonestly gaslighting that "you" made something. And in the process of it all you push forward the most lazy, bottom of the barrel generation possible. You could have at least put in some effort into generating it with a few passes instead of flooding the board. You could have just admitting to yourself that you have nothing to contribute. Anon, do you want a secret about humanity? Do you know how you can stop the average rando from hating you about AI spam? Put in some effort that could be respected. That is it. Loudmouths shat on digital artists until the average normie learned that you still need to put in effort and skill into it. People would get pissed if you saved a picture off of google and then lied to them that you are the artist. Google or AI, it is the same. Type in some words into a bar and "save as". So just put effort that people can respect. Until you do this, you will be shat on. And if your big "own" is generating an image that fools a person then your argument is not "oh you just hate it on principle" it is "if i lie well enough i magically start telling the truth". Which is bullshit and people will hate you more forcing you to lie more. Put in effort that can be respected or nuke the value of the fiction you try spamming with AI. Why financially reward some lazy fuck that bought a graphics card? Why respect a work that was done by no one when anyone can enter a tweet worth of prompts into a publicly accessible generator?Have a Girlgoog for your troubles.TLDR: If reading is a problem then ask chatGPT to read it out for you.
>>22637756I would like to add to this. One of the saddest things to me about AI content in general is that is makes it worthless for me to come here, or really anywhere. When I watch media, or read anything, or use a Laotian traditional song and dance wax cylinder emporium like this one, I do it because I am trying to enjoy works and thoughts that come from my fellow human beings. AI content, I can get people liking it, but on a very fundamental level it isn't anything I can draw from. The lying and cajoling from AI guys certainly doesn't help.
>>22637756>>22637867Welcome to the dead Internet, here everyone is an artist.
>>22638062>and when everyone is an artist... no one will be
>>22638100Now you're asking the right questions
>>22637756its really funny when AI people bring up photobashing and artstation-slop as a "you cant tell these apart from AI!" gotcha, as if there was never any criticism of that type of thing for being formulaic and boring prior to the AI generation boom.
>>22638281Then don't use it as an example of a superior man-made art form
>>22638953this shit fucking sucks and you have zero taste though. there's nothing else that needs to be said
>>22638957
jesus this guy is gonna spend the rest of this thread spamming le epic cyber skulls huh
>>22635371> for your own low effort off-topicYou’ve already completely derailed the thread with your own low effort slop slinging so this is a pretty ironic claim
I kinda wished this thing showed up as an actual Angel. Too bad it never showed up in the anime proper, though judging by its design it kinda did in a way, given how much it looks like an MP Evangelion
>>22634788>the water is static and without ripplesOuch
>>22639705Just a style choice
>>22636166>So you only dislike it because you know it's A.I.?There's nothing complicated It looks like bottom of the barrel gutter trash but with "high production values"That's what gets generated by neural networks in most cases of generation Maybe you wouldn't be treated like a complete smoothbrain faggot if you had tried to post something that's not just revolting to instincts and sense to aesthetics Either way most people would rather not see any AI pics than a "best case scenario" proportion of 1:100 "fine":"vomit with maggots writhing in it"
>>22639711I think you guys just like to hear yourselves speak. It's like a reddit thread of batman villain monologues reading you guys prattle on about your nebulous dislike of an artistic tool.
At a certain moment i thought fuck all and started to bash Klimt and FSS as it was everything i needed
>>22639719>an artistic tool
>>22639719contentedness with AI art belies a fundamental misunderstanding of the value of human creation, and genuinely makes me think less of someone as a person. for a website that uses the word slop to describe any and everything i have no fucking clue how they decided that a software stealing thousands of original works and putting them into a blender for mass production is somehow okay.
>>22640216>stealing thousands of original worksThat's not the problem here.
>>22640224The problem here is the mass production, vomiting out 500 identical renders filled with technical competence and (0) unique ideas. that said the sampling is absolutely a problem for the the people who made the art.
>>22640250Yeah but as a consumer that's a non issue (short term).
>>22640255refer to the first comment. you're thinking like a consumer, not a human. what a deplorable sentiment.
>>22640285Unless you are a creator yourself that's literally all you do, consume the content you see.
>>22640293Firstly, I am, on a professional level, a creator. Secondly, you don’t need to make art to appreciate its value beyond what someone would pay for it. This again belies your concerning misunderstanding of the importance of artistic expression. Even my normie friends with normie jobs can understand the fundamental difference in value between a piece of artwork, made with purpose and meaning, and a pattern regurgitated on pixels using machine learning.
>>22640305>Firstly, I am, on a professional level, a creatorThen get fucked, lmao.>the fundamental difference in value between a piece of artwork, made with purpose and meaning, and a pattern regurgitated on pixels using machine learningSure, I don't want to see AI shit being mixed with human made stuff.
>>22640328>Sure, I don't want to see AI shit being mixed with human made stuffGreat job, you’ve ceded the entire point of this argument. Get it out of the thread.
>>22640351? I'm not your boogeyman, I hate AIslop as much as anyone else.
>>22640352Don’t pick up a retards cause or say retarded things if you don’t want to be confused for a retard
>>22640359>retarded thingsYou are the one that thinks the problem is the poor starving artists that "get their content stolen".
>>22640365Art has an unquantifiable but unarguable value. The unquantifiable part confuses slow people but the fact of the matter is that someone who puts work into something requires compensation from the people who enjoy it in order for them to keep making that something. The sentiment of AI “Owning the artfags” is the product of seething normies cutting off their nose to spite their face.
>>22640374>Art has an unquantifiable but unarguable valueMost people wouldn't pay anything for it, art is pointless in a starving society.
>>22640918By that retarded logic anything but flavorless protein paste is pointless. But no one lives like that so stop pretending like you do.
>>22641042>no one lives like thatPlenty of people do.
>>22641055no, they don't. even the most impoverished people all through history express themselves, and denying that is willful ignorance. deprivation of the opportunities to express themselves have occurred, they're called human rights violations.
>>22641158>nuh uh that's not true I can't hear you lalala
King Salmon is a personal fave of mine (sucks I had to compress this before posting it.) Here's a site with a bunch of his art too.https://salmon.atomova. eu/
>>22641249Those filters make his stuff seem more amateur than it already is.
>>22641289In what way is his work amateur? The dude's a phenomenal painter and animator, that painting above is leagues ahead of the vast majority of generic ArtStation garbage
>>22641289You're retarded. PYW.
>>22641289Typical /m/ contrarian forever driven by the xenophobic need to gatekeep content. "Filters are amateur hour, A.I. is shit, Photoshop is for hacks, Western Art is cringe, etc." Of course you won't show us what you consider to be good, no, that would leave you open to criticism, yours is only to bat down the tastes of others forever maintaining nebulous and unatainable goal posts. Even if we were to correctly guess what kind of sub-par drivel you think qualifies as "good', you'd deny it simply on the principle that it couldn't be proven. Your only interactions online most likely consist of these knee-jerk reactions that you have no intention of ever backing up in good faith discourse.Forgive me if this seems like an overblown extrapolation on my part, but I've danced this dance too many times so forgive me if I cut to the chase and spare this thread umpteen hundred responses of pseudo-intellectual posturing trying to get the last word by retreating ever futher into logical/argumentative fallacies. Even if I've missed the mark on a few details, the overall 'gist' of the assessment is sound.
>>22641317>>22641550>>22641591Damn if you told me King Salmon posted here I'd have been much harsher with my critique.
I really like his non-giant robot designs
>>22641638>lgbt flagwhy
It's a prism refracting light, anon
>>22641591why are you comparing photoshop or filters, modifiers and streamliners in the production of art to AI, a button you click that generates the art for you. don't slip that in like its comparable or respectable.
>>22641847Don't expect honest arguments from an AIfag. They'll start bringing up retarded shit like how AI is going to have infinite potential like cars but they'll suck your dick and the government is going to be forced to hand out free money in the form of UBI because it can do everything so all the jobs will be replaced while accusing you of being a seething artist if you disagree.
>>22641914ai has peaked, anyone who knows anything agrees that wetware computing is the only way we can move past what current AI is capable of, which isn't that impressive anyway once the novelty is gone
>>22641847Adobe has incorporate A.I. art generation into it's latest version of photoshop.>>22641914I'm sensing there are some more deeply rooted psychological issues here than just the ethical quandries of artificial intelligence...>>22642992Nah, A.I. is still improving at a frightening rate, people have been claiming it's peaked for the last six years now.
>>22643227>people have been claiming it's peaked for the last six years nowNot really.
>>22643241Saying it any point in time is just silly when it's been demonstrably shown improving year after year. There's no technical or technological ceiling, so long as the machine learning improves, so too can the product. It's what makes it scary.
AI can't make good mechs though. It only knows how to make battlemech with a terminator head since that's all it's ever trained on.
>>22643264>There's no technical or technological ceilingNow that's just silly.
>>22643363Literally, yes, but practically speaking, no.
>>22643349I mean, to Gundam fanboys, everything that isn't Gundam looks like Battlemech. Just because the robot ain't pretty with little frills and pointing bits doesn't mean it's Battlemech.
>>22643227> Adobe has incorporate A.I. art generation into its latest version of photoshop.Don’t be disingenuous. There’s an obvious difference between saving time creating something and having something created for you. You know where the line is I don’t have to spell it out for you.
>>22643376If it looked like a Titan or a Valkyrie or an orbital frame or an AC I’d notice. Maybe battle mechs are generic?
>>22643227improving at a frightening rate? like getting worse at answering questions the more it learns?
>>22644668Whatever helps you sleep at night after a long day of voicing your unsolicited opinions about A.I. to anyone will listen online.
>>22644054Maybe you just have a preference for weeb shit. No shame there, that stuff can be top notch. You like what you like. A.I. can be trained on whatever you want too so you could even make Gundams that look more generitc and kibbled with busy detailing than what they already do (I mean no disrespect, there's some cool shit in that franchise, but if you've seen one Gundam suit, no matter the series, you know it's a Gundam: "Oh, it's the new Gundam Anime, this time the Gundam still looks like a Gundam but now has even more extraneous lines and pointless transforming features and superfluous lighting elements. Oh and we've also brought back gimmicks from previous installments in the franchise except done less well than their originator!").
Weird edgelord edition
AC's are pretty cool
I knew who Thomas Cole was, I knew what a Saturn Return was, and I knew what Beargguys were. Did not expect all three in one professional painting.
>>22648835I'd call this silly, but a ton of effort went into this. Quite serene.
