what is the obsession in the car community about lowering your car ?i am against it.it just feels stupid like, more dangerous. and less serious. like some kind of stupid joke cause you are real low to the ground. i dont get it. i was just in a real low honda the other day and i was like this is just dumb.
>>27629869>car was factory lowered xr6 model>was so low speed bumps and some dirt trails smashed the underside of the intercoolerthanks ford, raised it up higher than most territories now kek
>>27629869Just ricers doing ricey things. I think it helps them switch lanes in traffic since thats important to them since they don't know where they're going. Fucking insects I swear to god.
There are so many examples throughout culture where practicality is sacrificed for style. Impracticality might even be a bonus, since then the style is rarer. So yes, the people who own these things probably know more than you how impractical it is. But it doesn't matter. It looks cool, and it's not ubiquitous. Just like women wearing high heels and dresses.
>>27629869main reason: looks coolsecondary reason: retards who think having basically no suspension makes your car handle better then wonder why any bump in the middle of a turn makes them lose traction instantly.
>>27629869Better gas mileage t. Lowered Mirage
>>27629869Literally not going to make it.
>>27629885I haven’t seen this one in a while
>>27629869If you lower when not moving you are never gonna get towed, so that’s a positive.
>>27629869You posted air suspension. You can lower the car, or even raise it to be higher than factory height.
>>27630058How much improvement did you see?
the best answer is they do it because most common cars don't have it.haha retarded,>>27630064also a good answer.being lower is bad. its more dangerous. the lower your car is. the more easy it is for you to die. simple as.
>>27629869I used to be a stancefag. I stopped caring as much about looking cool and more about being comfortable and enjoying my drive for its own sake. I don't even want to do drop springs bc they'll compromise the ride. It's mostly younger guys <25 who tend to do the stance thing. Adults with money go with bags lol
>>27630141what other options are there for suspensionwhat do police cars use ?
>>27630145>what other options are there for suspensionKind of a silly broad question, depends on your goals >what do police cars use ?Usually heavier duty shocks and springs. They help deal with the typically increased weight, and the fact that intercpetors/patrol vehicles will often be going off road and jumping curbs
>>27630152>Kind of a silly broad question, depends on your goalswell its over for mebecause i know nothing about suspensions but i would like a good one (never)my goal is to have a smooth ride. care more about lane switching and turns than bumps.
>>27629869retardation.no way to excuse it, it cant be explained, it just is what it is.you can just speed by them blowing their oil pans out on speed bumps.most of the actually fast cars they want to look like was infact rally cars and they where slighty lifted...
>>27630154>my goal is to have a smooth ride. care more about lane switching and turns than bumps.Keep your suspension stock and maintained. That will be the key to the best ride.
>>27629869The ride height is fine, it's the hearing aid beige wrap that's criminal.
Yesterday I saw a truck that I thought was a victim of wheel theft. It was so low to the ground it honestly looked like it was just resting on its axles and the bodywork was about 1cm from the ground. Why the fug would you do this to a truck?
One of the most annoying things about 4chan is that everything has to be extreme. Like literally everything has to be 0 or 100. Do you know there's such a thing as middle ground? Did you know you can lower your car without laying frame and tucking cambered wheels with stretched tires?
thinkin bout possibly cutting the front coils, no idea why it sits so high in the front, it looks almost like a roller but it has a bigass cast iron inline 6 and like 160lbs of 1/4 wall push bar
I hate it. It's impractical (inb4 skill issue, you're going to scrape) and it looks stupid honestly. I hate how it makes the wheels in the wheel well look offset as well. >>27630145I mean what are your goals? There's plenty of shock / spring combos that can make the ride more stable without too harsh a tradeoff in bumps. But if you just want comfortable stick to OEM.
>why do people like things I don't like >the thread
>>27629886>>27630053>>27630141Problem is, it doesn't actually look cool
>>27630192Meh it’s subjective, I find that a lot of cars look better with a slight drop to them. Nothing insane with tucking wheels and the like.
>>27630192>Problem is, it doesn't actually look coolThat's your opinion
>>27630226I used to not like 93-04s but theyre coming around on me, id like to get my hands on one that's nice but maybe as a roller to build later.
>>27630192it objectively doesyou can't with a single ounce of honesty say that having wheel gap looks better
>>27630249>you can't with a single ounce of honesty say that having wheel gap looks betterWhy can't I?
>>27630270Because one can not honestly lie.
>>27630275Something said in earnest belief can't be a lie
>>27630226does blue haired, tattoed trannies look good to you?because thats what lowered cars look like to the rest of the world.>>27630249is proof, before it actually looks fast and good, this thing will fly over the road.after, lol needs an oil pan next week and will be one of thoose slow-ass drivers who has to do speed bumps at a 45* angle slow af.
>>27630283>does blue haired, tattoed trannies look good to you? >because thats what lowered cars look like to the rest of the world. Really weird comparison but ok. Also not what I was saying
>>27630249Yeah.It dies.Retard.
>>27630249Second one looks off, like it's broken
>>27630283Cope lowered cars look better most of the time
>>27630287>t. blue haired, tattoed trannygood for you i guess, im among the so called liberals so i think you have a right to exist. hope you have a happy life and find someone who loves you.posted from my lifted SUV.
>>27629869lifted is objectively better anyway, not like any of these "lowered" builds are cars that get tracked anyway (of which, being too low would be a detriment at that)
>>27629869it's about being able to lower and raise the car. which is nice for a car that is modified but also sees lots of miles
>>27630297>wheels centered in wheel welllooks good, as it should be>>27630249>wheels tucked into the wheel welllooks like you got your fat grandma riding shotgun
People who insist stock cars look better are jealous poorfags who either can't afford modifications or bought unpopular cars ignored by the aftermarket. It's cope. Plain and simple. No one with an IQ over 80 would look at a car like this and honestly believe the suspension looks "like it's broken" because it doesn't have 4 inches of wheel gap. It's common knowledge that the highest level of performance cars all have low clearance because it lowers the center of gravity and the stiffer suspension doesn't need to travel as much and it gives air less space to flow underneath the car which reduces lift at higher speeds. These are objectively true facts. Preferring lanky tall ass cars means you prefer having a higher cog and less stability in corners and at high speeds. This is why no one can honestly prefer it.
>>27630249Literally does. The gap goes from being even around the wheel to smaller on top. Immediately makes me think of how much I Mexicans but at stock ride height I think about how fords svt program was cool. You're a ricer btw.
>>27630319ricer. You listen to rap, switch lanes a lot and have no tools.
>>27630331Post car
>>27630319You make this massive wall of cope just to use a picture of a stock car.
>>27630331>switch lanes a lotI keep seeing this become the new way to bash people on /o/ but I don't even get what it means. Don't tell me you sit behind slow-moving trucks while everyone is passing.
>>27630346>keep seeing thisAnd you will for the next few years till I forget about it>Don't tell me you sit behind slow-moving trucks while everyone is passing.The white man, known as the pillar of society, picks his lane once, all that lane switching is opening yourself up to unnecessary liabilities but more importantly you look like a insect brained nigger or woman. Keep it up btw you will make it to your destination so much sooner than white men across the country. Dumbass fucking ricer
>>27630367>insect brained nigger or womanDon't you have a mom?
>>27630319thats a stock car.it looks good, because its stock.you slamming your grandmas skoda to the ground doesnt look good, it just looks like your grandma in her clapped out skoda driving with boken springs and too much load.
>>27630370my mom still has some insect tendencies , like applying the throttle too abruptly, but my dad taught her well for the most part. Kys btw.
>>27630377>my mom still has some insect tendenciesson of the year
>>27630381>can't criticize mommykys you underage faggot, go switch lanes off a cliff
>>27630249this plebbitors coping hard >haha my stock corolla/camry is best car in the world xDDD
>>27630376>>27630391ricer
>>27630344>>27630376Damn I really underestimated the mental gymnastic ability you guys have. "This car with 3 inches of ground clearance and no wheel gap looks bad because it's not stock" and "This car with 3 inches of ground clearance and no wheel gap looks good because it is stock" was definitely not a space on my bingo board.
>>27630390>I HATE MY MOM!!!You're the underage faggot here lmao, you should grow out of it though
>>27629885>muh rycerrrrkys brainlet rice comes from rice burner = jap carstupid newfaggot
>>27630392>>27630396
>>27630393Motherfucker you're the one who's doing insane mental gymnastics here. You begin with this bold opening in your post like it's the end all be all,>People who insist stock cars look better are jealous poorfags who either can't afford modifications or bought unpopular cars ignored by the aftermarketAnd you post a fucking stock car
>>27630395>you should grow out of it thoughmost people dontmen and women alike
>>27630376I thought we were talking about lowered cars not slammed. If a stock car and a lowered car have the same clearance doesn’t that make the stock car just as bad???
>>27630406that things obviously bagged
>>27630298what a weird post bro lol
>>27630299>not like any of these "lowered" builds are cars that get tracked anywayright thats why they lower rally cars for concrete tracks why the fuck is everyone on /o/ a fucking retard that just posts bullshit? youre an idiot cunt
>>27630402>insane mental gymnasticsExcept not. Low good.Not low not good.Do you really struggle to understand this?
>>27629869Cars all look better lowered. Slammed looks gay as fuck though.
>>27629869Looks incredibly retarded and is very impractical.When I see this shit I always laugh at the thought of these faggots driving across speed bumps and potholes.
>>27630421Then just say that, don't shift goalposts when people call you out for your poorly made post. Making this big grandstand about how people insist that stock cars look better is some poor cope and using a bone stock car as your image is dumb as fuck
>>27630393you think its about ground clearance?cars with wheels and wheel wellls made accordingly just look better than cars not made so, they just look heavily loaded. no one thinks a heavy loaded car is fast or cool?
>>27629869It's a lowbrow trend for low iq people, appeals to the lowest common denominator. Lowering your car is like the pop music of car mods. It's cheap and everywhere and most of it is tasteless, sucks, and appeals only to people with low aspirations. Always has been. A small degree of lowering is often decent for handling but people take it to such an extreme that it completely ruins handling.
>>27630423have fun explaining the difference between lowered and slammed idiot>>27630424>Looks incredibly retardedobviously it doesnt you faggot plebbitor
>>27630249Stock looks much better. Get bigger wheels if you dont want a large gap.
>>27630434>people take it to such an extreme that it completely ruins handling.like you'd fucking know pissant>>27630437>just do a donk brokys retard
>>27630436absolutely seething lmao
>>27630434why this nigga talking mr house
>>27630441absolutely downs syndrome lmao
>>27630436>>27630440it is hilarious seeing ricer shitters having a tantrum defending their dogshit looking car mods
>>27630436>>27630376Slammed>>27630297Lowered>>27630249Lowered>>27630167Slammed>>27629869SlammedIt’s not that hard to distinguish retard.
>>27630449so bags = slammedfuckwit
>>27630448>riceryou dont know what that means and your car is a shitbox
>>27630450The thing is that bags are adjustable, does not necessarily mean slammed just that they get used in those cases a lot more since it’s a look they go for. I feel like I would love some bags on my car as I could raise it going over speed bumps then lower it back down for normal driving.
>>27630428You can hound on this stock or not stock point all you want but we all know that it's just a deflection method from the original topic. You painted yourself into a corner but I'm not ADHD enough to let your weasel your way out of it. Some people have attention spans longer than 30 seconds.
>>27630456>does not necessarily mean slammedthat was what you just said now try explain the massive grey area between lowered and slammed
>>27630457>the original topicYou mean how you're deflecting from your original post where you made this big statement that people only say they like the look of stock cars as they are bitter poorfags? I wasn't sure if you were trying to make an ironic joke by using an image of a stock Lexus LFA as your image
>>27630460Slammed is really tucking the tires up into the wheel wells of a vehicle. Lowered is less heinous and still keeps some of the usability of the vehicle. Although bags just get raised when you are driving so I guess it really doesn’t affect it too much.
>>27630440>like you'd fucking know pissant
>>27630476>Slammed is really tucking the tires up into the wheel wells of a vehicle.right my car tucks tyre at the rear but the front sits flush is my car just lowered or "slammed" oracle?
>>27630484saying im mad means fuck all to anyoneyoure a pleb
>>27630416Lowering a rally car an inch or two is far different than dumping your car as low as it goes to make a 'stance car' you dumb fuck
>>27630486LoweredI don’t know why you are having problems with this.
>>27630490>moves the goalposts to "stance">>27630491because you sound stupid when "lowered" and "slammed" are basically the same thing with a massive grey area in between
>>27630488keep ranting about how your precious low being laid low, little rageboy.
>>27630496If you can’t understand the difference I don’t know what I can tell you. Pic related is slammed.
>>27630502like the NPC redditor cretins you are you like pigeon holing thingsthis practice is not only gay but soulless.enjoy the commonwhore
>>27630506And lowered is very different.You are just being obtuse or an idiot. Probably both
>>27630506>Pic related is slammed.its bagged.
>>27630508>car that isnt bagged.jpegnow explain the difference without picturesuse mm
>>27630167>1cmConvert to Freedom units next time
>>27630507>so mad he's now ranting incoherently about reddit kek. Why are stancefags so easy to buttboil
>>27630518>another u madso tedious
>>27630516How do you know it isn’t bagged? Very well could have air suspension. Hell some old Mercedes have air struts with bags for ride height and comfort. Slammed/bagged has to do with that retarded tucked up look most of the time. Depends on the build and such, usually bagged/slammed are more extreme but I’m not gonna sit here and say 1 inch clearance is bagged an 1.2 is lowered.
>>27630524>I’m not gonna sit here and say 1 inch clearance is bagged an 1.2 is lowered.exactly because you talk shit I also guarentee you that mr2 isnt bagged
>>27630529Whatever you say busrider.
>>27630538? we talked about my cars ride height you are a bitter loser
fucking ricers
>>27630541dont talk about shit you dont know about cuckold
>>27630539No it just dawned on me that I’m probably just arguing with some Albanian who owns a stock 2008 ford mondeo who thinks and lowering is the same and is detestable.
I already scrape when hitting bumps and have to be careful of curbs and stuff with my stock car, why would i want to have to go even slower and at even more of an angle everywhere? Plus speed bumps. Too much stress.
>>27630544all you do is switch lanes like a frantic retard, you're too scared to line up. LED loving, infotainment discussing, ricer
>>27630551that wouldn't change the fact you use "lowered" and "slammed" like the are distinctive different things you also kept using bagged cars as your examples of "slammed"my guess is youre early 20's and ethnict. Ausfag v8 commo
>>27630557my car isnt japenese try again
>>27629869Performative performance.NPCs see that performance cars are lowered compared to trucks or land yachts and naively assume that lowering a car further will equal even more performance, not understanding that the suspension is a vital part of performance and that it needs room to cycle.They'll do the same with wings with no airfoil, random spoilers, and loud intakes and exhausts.
>>27630559They are distinctive things you dumb roofucker, bagged and slammed are interchangeable words but not all lowered cars are on springs. Therefore they can be called “bagged”.Also no, Western Europe white mid 20’s
>>27630557what does any of that mean
>>27630564Not him but that has nothing to do with being a ricer
>>27630571>i googled "ricer" and saved one of the first tired old imagespost 20XX soulless cuckbox
>>27630572>bagged and slammed are interchangeable wordsso youve proven me right nice own goal>>27630574rice = rice burner = jap car cope
>>27630577They are interchangeable words but I wouldn’t call them the same.
>>27630582okay so explain the grey area difference
>>27630575Ok
>>27630584Style as previously stated above.
slamming, not lowering, is aesthetic thing most people do it because something about a ground hugging car just looks cool for some reason.Lowering is a performance thing, I put 30% stiffer .75 inch lower springs on when I changed the worn out shocks and struts with BSR DS' and modified the toe and camber plates. Car handles like a dream on the pilot 4 AS that went with the whole kit.Slamming, lowering, knowing the diff can save your life if youre in one of those shitty street takeovers.
>>27630585shitbox girls car I should have known>>27630586>stylekek what cunt?
>>27630589>slamming, not loweringgrey area between the two no distinctive differenceyou sound retarded
>>27630591We have explained the difference between the two multiple times, that shitty tuck into the wheel wells and wanting to touch the ground is slammed look, generally no advantages to it, something like>>27630476is just lowered and can provide better handling is properly done.
>>27630577>rice = rice burner = jap carOther people eat rice too. You're still a ricer if you rice out a mustang.RaceInspiredCosmetic"Enhancement"
>>27630597>We have explained the differenceyouve done a vague attempt at itlike your mate said youre using interchangable words
>>27630604>Race>Inspired>Cosmetic>"Enhancement"so why are chrome wheels, altezza taillaights and neons "rice" theyre not race inspired.you cunts use "ricer" as "modifications i dont like"rice comes from rice burner simple as
>>27630592>grey areaBullshit and you know it.Slamming is to drop a car as much as possible and reduce wheel gap as much as possible to the detriment of perf and regular drivability.Proper lowering is a fine tuned adjustment that gives the vehicle decent normal drivability and considerably better performance.My car still has ~4.5 inch of clearance and can fit 245x45s on 18x8.5s without issue or any further fitment modification.A slammed car just fucks it all up for the sake of ground hugging and minimal wheel gap.But you know that and are just being an asshole.
>>27630614youre trying to explain a grey area between interchangeable words you just like pidgin holing things
>>27630619your ass is just a pigeon hole what about that
>>27630613You're a ricer in denial and no amount of cope will solve that. Ricer doesn't mean japanese. You're wrong. Stop posting.
>>27630613that is a backronym. 'rice' was just a racist jab at japanese cars with small engines that were trying to be quick. then it became people who tried to make their cars look fast, then the term spread to cars from all countries, then all of those people took their extra cash that would go into useless mods and now spend it on doordash, onlyfans, game microtransactions, etc.
>>27630621noooooooooo>>27630622youre like 20? go ask your dad about it internet brain NPC
>>27630627>then the term morphed into "modifications i dont like"exactly
>>27630249wheel should not be below the center of the arch.
>>27630633>namefaggotall your posts are cancer
>>27630638eat shit im right
Saturdays on /o/>your ass is a pigeon hole...>noooooo?Arent the majority of this board between 25 and 45 years old?
>>27630604>running to europe to escape ricerdomnot how it works. being a ricer is in your DNA. theres no brands involved you stupid ass lane switching faggot. are you indian? be honest
>>27630638At this point I think ausfag are just as bad maybe worse than namefags.
>>27630642wait no i meant above
>>27630642you never are
>>27630604have you ever wondered why traffic looks the way it does in your country?
>>27630646not an argument go back to plebbit midwittery maybe bring out the 20 year old image of the silver and orange poorly modified corolla with one headlight up to totally stick it to the "ricers"tedious cunt
^fuck kind of meem is this lamo. dude solved a captcha for this shit
>>27630645>>27630648>>27630662you "people" are literal retards indians should be banned from using the internet
>>27630662>this is what happens when you have to live in Australia and you pretty much only have holdens as fun cars.
>>27630676?we have everything the rest of the world has you coping idiot kalergi mongrel
>>27630677dont ever reply to my post again kangaroo fucker
>>27630680kys dumb cunt
>>27630669kys you faggot ricer, go shill your gay little stance bullshit somewhere else you lane switching faggot
>>27630684do you switch lanes if you're behind a semi
>>27630669idk what your disagreement is but you're probably wrong and a fag
>>27630677>t. Has to pay 120k for a pickup truck and has beginner licenses for motorcycles.
>>27630684autism how is "lane switching" bad? you keep saying it like it means something
>>27630690>namefaggot that never posts anything of value>>27630691imagine buying anything new post repayment schedule on your shitheap cuck
>>27630694>how is "lane switching" bad?you wouldnt know, jeet. go eat a cowshit sandwich btw. you love cows huh
>>27630703>the Australian is so poor he can’t afford anything newColor me surprised
>>27630689you dont get to be the pillar of civilication without commitment. i pick my lane 1 time, if you want to race, line up.
>>27630716>if you want to race, line up.I can't, you're stuck behind a semi lmao
>>27630711>you wouldnt knowevidently neither do you did you hear it from a fellow plebbitor?>>27630713kekpost finance repayments on your new piece of shit you stupid roastie
kys, ricer
>>27630719>any modification is le ricewhy is this pushed so hard here?you are retards
why is everything so low quality on here
>>27630718>>did you hear it from a fellow plebbitor?brother look at traffic in your shithole lamo, theres no order since you lower races cant even. just keep bringing it to the civil world though, its your destiny, its why you exist. lane switching faggot, ricer.
>>27630726>brother look at traffic in your shithole lamoplenty of tuff aus and nip cars
>>27630722bitch, springs arent a mod. neither are your chinkshit dampers lamo kys you lane switching retard
>>27630724It’s what happens when we let the prisoners have a crack at life.
>>27630734>springs arent a modtechnically they are you seething samefaggot
>>27630726do you give every other driver the angry chud face as they pass you
>>27630734>springs arent a mod and dampers are chinkshitRight that's why I dropped almost 3 seconds of lap time at my local track after doing suspension work.You're a retarded autistic, so this probably doesn't make sense to you,But gaining 2.5 MPH in slow corners and almost 4 MPH overall in average lap speed is a SIGNIFICANT increase, from stuff you say is "not a mod"
>>27630703you dont post anything but dogshit you flaming cunt
I find it strange that a thread about lowered suspension is hit with nearly the same amount of retarded forced irritating troll bullshit as a political thread >muh lane switching rycerrr its like they want to make it as unusable as possible wherever you are>>27630768just kill yourself loser
^lane switcher
^currently stuck in traffic while everyone is passing him
kys stance faggot
>>27630077For a ~60mile commute I'm doing about avg 50mpg with AC and 57mpg without AC before, after I'm doing about +2-3 to those avgs.Im using eibach lowering springs.
lmaoing at all the stancelet ricelet gaplet, tool less faggots in this thread
>>27631000post tools
>>27630996That's an interesting improvement.Cars with "dirty" underbodies generally get significantly better aero drag when lowered, but cars with cleaner/more flat underbodies get worse. This is because a smooth floor vehicle already has low drag and a high "ground effect", so lowering such a car increases the ground effect and thus the drag. Conversely, a vehicle without a smooth floor has "bad" aero and lowering it reduces the turbulent wake hitting amd being swirled around by non smooth parts.Basically your mirage has practically no aero underbody treatment, compared to say a modern mustang gt which should see a little worse MPGs with a lowering. This is totally normal im not shit talking, just pointing out that lowering achieves a similar effect as flat-plating the umderbody, and an already flat underbody doesnt aerodynamically improve from lowering.
>>27631004My tools are a fucking mess i did my front brakes and rotors today, dont even have an 18mm socket so I had to remove kinda stuck caliper bracket bolts with a fucking 6 inch wrench. That sucked but my brakes are good now, OG rotors at almost 140k miles would grind at high speed hard braking and shudder a bit if trying to creep slowly.I dont have an impact, or air tools, or fancy caliper contractors just a basic c clamp. I dont have spring compressors. I am missing some socket and wrench sizes. Way too many copies of cheap socket sets 4 to 16mm in size etc.Thankfully i do have a rubber mallet, the front driver rotor was a bit rust locked on the wheel threads and needed a bit of tap tapping to coerce.And thank god for PB blaster or i couldve never got the 18mms off with that small wrench amd would have totally rounded the worn out 14mm bolt on the passenger side upper caliper slide pin/bolt.Anyways you were saying about tools?
>>27629869looks betterslightly improves handling and stabilityhttps://youtu.be/7Yut08_IzHkplan on slightly lowering my alfa once I make it roadworthy
>>27631004>post toolsdon't ever try to be like me you brainlet ricer. It's impossible. You're at the bottom, I'm at the top. You're a lane switching nigger and I'm the pillar of civilization, trendsetter of /o/.
>>27629869seems to me like there are two main camps. Lowering for performance, or lowering for cosmetic reasons. I lowered for improved handling.
>>27630249Honestly the car needs a 3' lift just to be able to clear everyday bumps and shit
>>27630297It only makes sense on the race track. IRL roads are shitty
>>27630178It isnt high, the wheel arch is just higher up to facilitate steering, look closely at that body line and how it relates to the arches.Would be sick with some real crazy rake though
>>27629869Lowered cars handle better, obviously. The issue is a street is not a NASCAR track - potholes and speed bumps can easily tear up the exhaust or oil pan, if you aren't careful. Then you've gotta add heavy duty springs, to compensate and that destroys your handling, anyway.
>>27630346NTA but I do sit behind trucks if I am driving long distance so long as they aren't slow as fuck and I'm not trying to have fun with the act of driving. Very relaxing way of getting from A to B.
I like to think of that as a triumph of US infrastructure serviceseven people as manic, obnoxious and retarded as >>27630319 are afforded the capability of driving their sad crippled car and not get stuck on every second parking lot entrancemakes me proud to have stolen a job from an american
>>27630167Spics love it for some reason
>>27630167It's a Mexican thing, I don't know why they do it. Maybe so people can't steal their wheels because a jack won't fit?
>>27630169If you only lowered it a little nobody would know you had lowered it, which is the whole point.
>>27630249The wheel should be concentric with the wheel well. Top looks about right, bottom looks like jorge needs new springs.
>>27629869/o/ loves to say lowered cars are ruined and anything truck related must be a mexican.
>>27630299lmao, that fucking hack job. At least let someone with steady hands do it.
>>27632512you have no tools, if you did you'd post em
>>27630605There's degrees of lowering. Slammed/bagged is extremely lowered, for spic looks with total disregard for performance.
>>27630249before looks better
>>27630436>obviously it doesnt you faggot plebbitorIt looks retarded because it is retarded, and you are retarded for thinking otherwise.
>>27630521It's observable reality, anon.
>>27630582>They are interchangeable words>but they mean different things
>>27630226Your cars are hideous regardless of what the suspension is like though
>>27629869There is a HUGE difference between lowering, and slamming, of which the vast majority of this board(i.e. busriders) know nothing about.
>>27629869Kek fucking ricelet stancelet slowfaglet grandpalet momlets, "i swear to 'god.'"
>>27630289>>27630295>>27630299>>27630325>>27630424>>27630434>>27630437Kek retard ricelet stancelet slowfaglet grandpalet momlets
