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Welcome to /k/, 4chan's weapons board. Our board centers around weapons, armor, and other myriad military technology. While guns are the primary topic, threads involving any other sort of weapons, from swords and knives to tanks and jet fighters, come up frequently as well. If you're new, we suggest reading the sticky at http://amagicalplace.wikia.com/wiki/Sticky to get acquainted with the board's subject matter.

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/k/ is a board devoted to weapons and military equipment.

Discussions about politics or current events belong on /pol/.

Do not post threads about gun control. They belong on /pol/.

Troll threads will be deleted, and those posting troll posts will be banned.

>It's the "Anon stops a shooting, gives a killer interview on the news, and sways public opinion on gun rights" daydream again
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haha, daz a gud won. cos: me, too. hehehehe
>it's the "Anon saves a 7/10 single girl from rape with his cc'd g26 and gets married and happy forever after" daydream again
>be subtenant in attic of old mansion
>hear noise
>put on NVGs
>disarm intruder and shoot him with his own gun
>next morning ask landlord what to do with the body and if he wants to eat it
>no just cook him up nice
>cook of face and fingers/toes and chop up body in the kitchen with his wife watching, trying prevent her from finding out

>gf asks me why I slept so bad last night
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>it's the "anon gives crazy guitar solo on stage in front of his entire school" daydream again as he listens to his favorite Rock song
Tell us about it anon

We won't bully

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How do you feel about female Chinese soldiers?
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>shit that never happened: the post
>Red Caps

SO THATS where the show Colony got them.
chinks don't use .45, it would burn the oriental out of em
>Does navy camo even work
I'm not sure it's even supposed to. It's like it's 'camo' so that you know they're military and then they combined it with a high-vis vest so that they can be seen in the water if they go overboard or around heavy equipment like deck guns and ordinance loaders.
Unless the loaders are being filled with rules and regulations

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What exactly is the point of digital camo? Is it better?
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CADPAT is probably the best digital camouflage available. Sadly, sale to civilians is banned. The Canadian Armed Forces could probably increase their budget drastically if they'd just sell off their beat up old uniforms.

What unit are these guys?
Underrated posts
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If you need to wear something more tacticool for hunting you're just a faggot and bad at hunting
I have no idea. So I googled "Danish forces replacing M/84 camouflage"

>In 2012 the Danish Defence announced it would replace the M/84 and M/01 with MultiCam, dubbed M/11
M/01 appears to be a Danish desert pattern
>The M/84 camouflage pattern (Danish: M/84 Pletsloring), is the current camouflage pattern of the Danish military. The M/84 is a derivative of the Flecktarn B pattern. Using the same shapes and pattern, the number of colours was changed from 5 to 3 – choosing olive green, light green and black to better match the colouration of the Danish woodland environment. The use of spots creates a "dithering" effect, which eliminates hard boundaries between the different colors in much the same way the squares in the newest digital camouflage patterns do. The pattern is designed for use in temperate woodland terrain. It has been adapted as desert camouflage by varying the colors. It is currently being replaced by M/11. The pattern is designed for use in temperate woodland terrain. It has been adapted as desert camouflage by varying the colors.
>While the M/84 is being replaced by the M/11, it is a gradual process and still widely used by the Danish Defence and Home Guard. It is also very sought after by collectors and enthusiast, due to the quality and rarity. Furthermore, both an Urban and Snow version have been produced for commercial use.

>First introduced in 2002, MultiCam was designed for the use of the U.S. Army in varied environments, seasons, elevations, and light conditions. It is a seven-color, multi-environment camouflage pattern developed by Crye Precision

Perhaps they think MultiCam covers more operational theatres? Perhaps the 3-colour is too restrictive concerning terrain? They appear to be replacing 2 patterns with one. Or there's a drive to have common camo within NATO? I'm just speculating as I've not been able to find any more info (although I've not tried that hard).

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Cadpat will never be sold to civilians. It was designed to put down any possible insurrection in British Columbia, and the last thing they need are the most well armed and pain resistant Yankees-in-Canucks-Jersies wearing effective camouflage.

Is he right? Can you just drop rocks from the moon and equal the power of 100s of nuclear bombs?
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Absolutely, the reason NASA brought rocks from moon was to gain their immense energy, the rocks were carefully delivered back to earth instead of dropped so the energy wasn't lost
No, objects reach terminal velocity regardless of shape, size, or mass, well under the threshold for doing significant damage to large areas. If they dropped a bomb from space going x mph, it would eventually hit the atmosphere of air, be slowed down considerably, cool down, and reach the surface at y speed. Of course, you might have guided objects fired from space or near-orbit that can eventually reach high speed impacts, but even then it would be no more effective against civilian targets than just dropping a nuke, nor would it be more destructive. The only time you'd benefit is if it were dropped on military targets that would somehow try to intercept the object, with hopes they would fail because the speed of the object is too high. If it were a nuclear capable object, the difference in damage between a 1mt nuke impacting a target at 5mph and 5,000 mph is negligible.
We're not talking an actual payload, we're talking a "kill all current life by blocking out the sun" sized meteor. You know, like what destroyed some 80% of the biosphere a few million years ago.
It's the ultimate high ground. You can see any attacker hours ahead of time. Easy to defend and completely inhospitable to an attacking force since they can only carry so much oxygen.

But yeah a 50 ton hunk of iron going straight down is going to fuck an entire region up. Look up the Chelyabinsk meteor and the damage it caused from a air burst 97 miles up.
No, since the moon has gravity too, you can't launch a rock from the moon and get an explosion equivalent to a nuke. Much easier to just use orbital space rods

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Two gun wielding assailants just broke into your home! How fucked are you!?
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Not fucked at all
the only problem is 8mm tends to rip though people and walls like butter

>Hide in my room with my ar.
>Wait for them to come down hallway to bedroom.
>Wait until I hear that noisy ass creek.
>Lean out and shoot down the hallway.

That's the only good thing about my shit flooring. Can easily tell where ppl are at.
Will it rip through their armor like butter?
I wish a nigga would
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I currently live in an embassy, so if they got passed all the armed guards, I'd probably be far from winning that battle.

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>custom blued controls
>maple grip
>handmade engraving
>only 80 in the world

Will you be getting one of those Anniversary CZ Shadow 2?
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I'm STILL patiently waiting for CZC to release a blued SP01. I saw some pictures of one here a while back, but never saved them.
>torx instead of Phillips head screws
Thank god they did that right this time
>what does Guy Fieri have to do with Smash Mouth
I'm p sure they're like the same fucking person famalam
lets be honest here, nearly anything is thinner than the factory rubber grips. The aluminum ones are even thinner than the VZ grips.
Mine had what seemed to be firing pin block/lifter problems. The plunger would "catch" a bit, swapped in a reduced power spring and seemed to realize the factory plunger spring was not only really fucking long, but very small in diameter for the plunger spring recess it sits in.

Only heard the things you look out for in a stock CZ are the factory springs and the slide stop. It seems they addressed the firing pin retention pin breakage by upping the single roll pin into a double roll pin.

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What are some /k/ approved TV shows (preferably not animu).

It can be anything with a lot of action, a lot of weapon-based-autism, or just something military related. It just has to be good.

>Pic unrelated, just a Kriss waifu
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Stargate SG-1.
Weapon Hunter Smithsonian channel.
I don't want to give away details but I am the previous owner of one of the guns demonstrated in an episode.
The Last Ship was okay

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Inspired by many, X vs Y threads:

If Duty and Freedom decided to end their Zone-wide truce, if we can call it that, and would return to full scale war again, which would win?

For those not familiar with Stalker, Duty is a faction known for military discipline, 9x39mm and PKM goodness, and heavy armour, while Freedom prefers 5.56x45mm rifles along with sniper rifles and lightweight armour combined with guerilla tactics. Both have about equal manpower available.
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>Freedom = /k/
loners fit /k/ much more, not pot smoking blood sucker lovers
So all the ATF threads and trap love mean nothing to you in this instance? Or the guy finger banging the deer? Or how there are a lot of guys on here who look down on "gubmind" bootlickers?
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traps are gay anon
besides most guys here fit the loner style not being a part of a faction

Duty is an organization founded on lies and spineless cucks who couldn't fight their way out of a pocket dimension. Freedom is a bunch of lazy stoner hippie fucks who can't fight to save their life.

Monolith are all a bunch of hiveminded zombies

Everyone hates clear sky

The only true answer is loner
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So what ? They own Pripyat and the Power Station now. They are pretty much Kings of the Hill in the Zone.

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if you could describe yourself as a gun, what would you be?
(pic related)
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>used and enjoyed by a few
>R a r e
>Broke a little too much during the long term tests
>Now restricted to memes and the internet
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>somewhat old fashioned in views
>perpetually dirty
>louder than I should be
>some people still like me for some reason
>I may be brutish but I can still get shit done
>I may or may not self destruct under pressure
we hate ourselves too...
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Why couldn't a pistol cartridge be made with a bullet weight around 40-60 grains, propelled at a high enough speed to fragment and cause devastating damage to targets? Basically, why couldn't you make the pistol equivalent of 5.56?
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you mean like this?
I think there's a 50 gr 9mm hollowpoint that's supposed to go something like 2000fps. MAC did a video on it and it pierced a 3a vest. But I've also heard that it fragments too early, and only the core makes it to 12" in ballistic gel.
60 grain 10mm ammo

fuck I need this in my life

fuck you europe

I want it in fmj.
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Well there would be no point.

Most high velocity rounds exit the body before even starting expansion. Those rounds you have listed are no exception. RIP tried to fix the expanding bullet meme but failed.
Bullets and their effect on target goes:

Low velocity

High velocity

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We had one of these a couple weeks ago, thought I'd bring it back.

Any LEO's on tonight?

I was cosindering applying to my local PD but was unsure of what the standard protocol is on service weapons.

Can you use your own pistol/service rifle?
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What level of education do you need just to be a "boots on the ground" cop? I've worked in a skilled trade since I finished high school, would I be eligible to join? Always done well on aptitude tests so I'm not too worried there.

I'm pretty keen on not living in a big city, are there substantial differences between being a big city cop and a small town cop? Difficulty getting a job, level of training, pay
HS is enough to start.
HS is enough to start like other anon said. I have some college and former mil experience which helped. Scoring well on aptitude and having a good head on your shoulders will go a long ways.

Unless your a state trooper in the middle of nowhere on a stretch of highway, rural cops almost always get paid less than city cops. Thats just the way it works. Less population = less tax revenue = less pay
Sorry coppers, but crossing the line onto my property would violate the NAP.
I forgot, but you can work in a city without living in it. I know some guys that drive an hour or so to get to station, which is enough to get them beyong city limits, and into neighborhoods where having a 3 acre spread for 200k with a house on top is doable.

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"they're tank busters sir, P-51's"

was there ever a better tank buster?
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>Tank buster
>Not having a 102mm ship buster
That was more of an early PCA fighter
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>Not paking a fucking PAК 40 under your fuselage
The old man's memory was flawed.
Yeah, it's not even a question.

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what's the most over rated gun of all time and the most under rated gun of all time and why ?
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Anything with a hammer


Striker fired. Particularly Glocks.
Work at a gun store and I hate when people want to buy a desert eagle.
literally tell people it's not fun to shoot and they shouldn't use it for self/home defense. Literally ever person who buys a dealer is a more over weight version of Guy Fieri who probably beats their wife. Usually followed by the phrase "wow would you take a look at that fucking gun, now that's a gun!"

Glock desu, they're not bad guns by any means, they're just not spectacular. Yes they work and they do their job just fine but I'm not a fan, nor am I a hater.

Honestly CZ, I'll let people use any handgun and most will say that CZ fits the hands well. Only when small handed people want the 97 do they not like the feel. SP-01 Probably the most underrated gun
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>false dilemma fallacy
a nigga wood
>over rated
HK 416
>under rated

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