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This board is dedicated to the discussion of history and the other humanities such as philosophy, religion, law, classical artwork, archeology, anthropology, ancient languages, etc. Please use /lit/ for discussions of literature. Threads should be about specific topics, and the creation of "general" threads is discouraged.

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Who lived in the Eastern Coast of the Baltic Sea before the arrival of Balts? Was it Finns? Are Finns older than all of the IE tribes?
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>>5361831
t. Polish plumber(or thief) in England
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>>5361834
Obsessed.
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>>5361831
t. Wyzcelslaw Smith

GDL was the PEAK of western civilization. England was a glorified opium cartel.
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>>5361838
Yes Poles are obsessed
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>>5361831
t. Jacek Kurwinski who emigrated to UK

Was mercantilist Europe the most /comfy/ time to live in?
>small family owned businesses everywhere
>guilds that would have your back and support each other in their business pursuits
>strong religious beliefs were common and the church still was an important part of most people's lives
>mercantilism ensure that most of the goods you consumed were made in your own nation by your fellow countrymen
>it was a good and prosperous time to raise a family in
>depending on where you lived you might be able to go out on a boat to the New World and stake a claim on some of the newly discovered virgin lands
It was so dang /comfy/ that GK Chesterton came up with Distributism in an effort to recreate the niceties of those times in the modern era.
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>>5359853
>>strong religious beliefs were common and the church still was an important part of most people's lives
I don't consider this to be a good thing and neither do a lot of other people.
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>>5361449
I dont know how you posted this concidering ypu were aborted. See how that makes no sense. You cant assume he would die. And you can not jidge quality of life by just saying everyone died all the time. Everyone dies all the time everywhere in all periods.
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>>5361821
>>I have nothing of value to say, so I'll just post a fedora image long after the novelty of such things has worn out.
It really bothers you christards that nobody in the modern world cares about your faith anymore, that people can choose whatever faith or philosophy they wish and no longer are forced to give the bible any more consideration then they would any other book.

It stings, and so you go and post images of ugly people or cartoon characters wearing hats, because you know you can do nothing, that the era of christendom has drawn to a close and the future of your religion in all the places that actually matter is one of continued decline.
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>be me
>mercantalist
>have small business
>must follow emperor chad's specific rules on micromanaging how we make our profit
>still don't make profit so deviate very slightly from regulations
>get killed, wife raped in front of me

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>USSR inflicts 80% of losses on the Wehrmacht
>saves Europe from Nazis
>to this day the USSR isn't considered evil and children aren't taught that Soviet symbols are evil
>America was so grateful that it forgave the USSR's debt over the beans and leather that America sent them during the war

The USSR is like the tragic hero who did everything to save the world from Nazis.
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>>5361435
faggots
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>>5361460
Never happened.
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>>5361531
That was the CIA and KGB fighting over who could nation-wreck the hardest.

>HEY WATCH ME TRICK THEM INTO FLOODING THEIR COUNTRY WITH MEHMETS
>OH YEAH? WELL I CAN GET THEM TO MAKE PAINTINGS OF JESUS ON THE CROSS SUCKING BLACK DICK
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More like 70% of its biggest branch, but whatever. Also, the US sent food, ammunition, weapons, vehicles, tanks, planes, railroad cars... basically everything the soviets had in 1944 and beyond in the war. Also, other than deflecting Japan in Khalkhin Gol, they didn't really do shit to fight the Japanese. They had no involvement with Italy. The US almost singlehandedly, with British assistance, beat the Japanese Empire, and together, the Brits and Americans beat Italy. They also invaded Germany from multiple sides. Faggots who suck the Soviet's dicks are pathetic and completely in denial. The Soviets were incredibly important, but pretending like they'd have easily beaten Germany without the RAF smashing the Luftwaffe and bombing Germany, and without enormous allied Lend Lease, and without French and Polish partisans pulling German forces elsewhere, and so many others, and pretending that they did the vast majority of the work, is completely false
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>>5361315
Maybe don't be a dictator-having, population-purging, famine-causing shithole and people would think better of you.

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What do trannies et al mean by gender?

When trannies say "I don't identify as the gender assigned to me", what thing in the world do they refer to with "gender"? Whenever I ask that question nobody really answers and only goes on self-reflective things like "a person's gender is the gender they identify as" which obviously does not answer the question.

But in trannyism "gender" can't be physical dimorphism (or else trannyism itself collapses because it says gender/sex are different) and can't be just gender roles (or else a transwoman is the same as an effeminate man). So what is "gender" for these people? Is it some kind of degenerate gnosis?
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>>5361490

And trannies behave and dress like women because they say they’re women.
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>>5361451
Gender isn't the same as biological sex. Gender is what >>5361490 is saying. It's the behavior you display. If I asked to guess who was behind a curtain, and gave you the clue that "they like pink" you'd assume it's a girl because girls like pink. But girls liking pink isn't a natural thing, it's a social construct.

Men and women are exactly the same and equal barring these social constructs, artificial divisions created by people, like girls wear dresses and boys like blue. Thus it is not the biology that makes the female or the male, it is the behavior. If we take it as a maxim that men and women are equal, then social constructs are the only differences between us, then it is not the vagina that makes the female, but the fact that they like pink and wear dresses. That's what a woman is, and they would like to be treated as such.

This is why people that don't neatly fall into one of these categories of clearly boy or girl, like goths and other attention whores, where before they would be nothing but an attention whore, they are nowadays "genderless" or some other bullshit.
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>>5361690
The idea that behavior patterns aren't a part of biology is ridiculous.
Many times it is the behavior patterns that not only outlive the state of the genetics, but are the thing itself that causes the genetic alteration to begin with.
For example, Darwin's finches began separating themselves via their behavior patterns way before genetics caught up.
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>>5361690
What you are describing are gender roles. By what you are saying there is no difference between "transwomen" and effeminate men, or "transmen" and tomboys.

>Men and women are exactly the same

This however is absolutely wrong and takes a massive denial of reality to state.
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>>5361490
>>5361568
>>5361690
This is what trannies and lefties claim that gender means, but like so many of their delusional claims, it isn't supported by the historical record. Gender has always historically been used synonymously with sex, as the division between male and female of a species.

Only in the relatively recent history of the 1970s, when radical feminists introduced the theory of gender-roles and the radical theory of the social constructionists (i.e. that society places certain expectations of how to behave and the roles that the different genders should play, and that is the cause of all difference between the genders), did they begin the post-modern linguistic assault upon the actual word gender to redefine it to make it appear as if their theory about the difference in behavior between the genders was always just an expectation of society, rather than biological reality. They quite literally have been trying to win by redefining language to fit their hypotheses.

Gender comes from the Latin root word "Genus" meaning kind or class. Obviously this connotes that your gender is a solidified kind, rather than a fluid impression, meaning that you are clearly defined in the terms of one or the other (male or female) not in terms of something that can transfer back and forth.

But even earlier, the Latin for genus come from the Indo-European root of "gene-" meaning "give birth" or "beget". This means that the word gender goes all the way back to an original meaning of something that you are born into, and determined as a solid classification of kind, not something that is later imposed upon you by society's norms.

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1)Gender roles are present in our genetic cousins, the apes.
>Therefore fender role predate human society

2)Gender roles have always been restablished reinvigorated by societal* collapses.
>Therefore denial of gender roles is a societal construct

3)All** civilizations known to man have independently established similar gender roles.
>Therefore human nature is gendered

Conclusion gender isn't a social construct

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among others
>French Revolution
>Fall of the Roman empire

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>>5361801
>and totally no based on what works best for the group
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Biofag here. People who argue that gender roles aren’t to some crucial extent inherent really miss the point. They get lost in the weeds because they look at cultural artefacts as proof that men aren’t stronger and therefore find themselves in military positions which give them power, or that women don’t make milk and get stuck indoors with pregnant bellies and so find themselves in sheltered maternal positions. Human societies, especially when the going gets tough, align even more strongly to these positions because it’s literally most efficient. Outliers ultimately don’t disprove the very well-documented biological observations about the different ways that sex hormones fundamentally affect our brains’ ways of operating.

Sure, gender signifiers, like the colour pink, shift over time. So do some standards like the exact ways women should be sheltered, like whether they should be unseen by outsiders or whether they should just not be exposed to war (in some extreme examples, this sheltering should be violated in dire situations). But these are all cultural arguments about how these fundamental roles should be defined, not about whether these roles exist.
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>>5361773
Oh so gender roles aren’t a social construct. Thanks for clearing that up, faggot.
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>>5361812
I never said that they were, anon. You can calm down now.
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>>5361812

Left wing arguments against reality

> find 1000 little and insignificant counter-argument

>contradicts self

>ends up agreeing with reality

Why did the pope ban crossbows?
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>>5361644
29. We prohibit under anathema that murderous art ofcrossbowmen and archers, which is hateful to God, to be employed against Christians and Catholics from now on.
http://www.papalencyclicals.net/councils/ecum10.htm
Really interesting mate, didn't know that
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>>5361467
It made it too easy for peasants to kill knights.
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>>5361680
And yet crossbowmen and archers did not stop being used.
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>>5361700
Yes but the point is people only ever mention crossbows as part of the ban as if the church officially recognized it as more effective than bows.
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>>5361467
>Why did the pope ban crossbows?

Popes have also banned bows and swords, by the way. It had similar (lack of) effect every time, of which there were several.
Its just christian attempts at pacifism.

What were really the big differences between Dutch, English/British, French, Portuguese and Spanish colonialism?

Afaik the English wished to settle while the rest just wanted to make money, right?
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>>5361580
Italians = ?
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what is even the difference between Spain and Portugal besides Spain being bigger, and Portugal being the first explorers and and last colonialists? similar cultures, almost the same language. they even both remained dictatorships up until the 1970s.
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>>5361593
Italy : lose to the savages
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>>5361593
gabagol and pizza
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>>5361580
>Spanish and Portuguese = treat amerindians as citizens.

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Are there any historical sources where males were raped by enemy soldiers? There's countless examples of this happening to women, of course, but I can't recall ever reading about any related to other males.

pic unrelated
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>>5359170
Polish-Bolshevik war, you dumb vatnik
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>>5361101
Horny for knowledge?
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>>5361744
Dude, that may be how it started, but the practice continued afterwards. The unintended effect of that practice was increased amounts of situational homosexuality.
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>>5361815
More like increased amounts of adultery. Willing to bet incidents of situational homosexuality stayed the same as pre-institutionalized polygamy.
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this >>5361744
plenty of powerful men partook in boipucci, hadrian's wife was reputedly mad that he was fucking antinous instead of her

at the end of the day, women need the D, and they don't like to share even if the guys are just friends and fooling around, men just make better partners than women and it is just something that's always been around

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Post the most brilliantly sneaky statemen of History.
Starting with the greatest of them all.
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With as many concessions as was made to the Soviets feels as if world war ii was almost entirely pointless.
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>>5361677
And Ukraine and Poland were allies. However Ukraine was divided into several competing states and Petlura ended up with no support and later with no territory because bolsheviks conquered most of Ukraine.
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>>5361678
>>5361683
>ukraine
No such thing.
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>>5361632
lwow defended itself from ukrainians
bunch of underage polish students successfully defended the city against elite of sich rifleman lol
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>>5361756
Well if they had majority in the city
General Rozwadowski also helped and he was one of the greatest heroes of the Polish-Soviet war.
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>>5361678
How were they invaded?

Can we talk about the eastern Mediterranean from the 4th crusade to the fall of these states 250 years later. It just seems like a wild and under talked about time?
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>>5361610
A famous coptic eunuch turned general.
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>>5361621
What is with the Byzantines and infighting. You think they would relies it only makes things worse for everyone.
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Any books or documentaries in the subject would be nice too
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>>5361648
I think it's the prestige that comes with the title of Roman emperor
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>>5361610
Wikipedia redirects to skanderburg's father

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Now that the dust has settled, can we discuss the ramifications of the Easter War? Who fired the first shot that day, and what did you feel about the Treaty of Astley? Which people suffered the most?
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>>5361650
Wish more people lurked
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>>5361702
>stab in the back theory
Back to >>>/c/remespiracy with you.
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Victory was snatched from our grasp by traitors enticed by the empty allure of Venti's milkers.
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>>5361743
this desu
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>>5361650
This probably isn't the first place he's linked the poll.

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What are /his/'s hot takes about anything in or about history?
>doesn't have to have anything to do with pic
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>>5347452
Rome was a shit empire and state, and the only reason we care about them is because they extermintated every other culture around them
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>>5358590
>fascist regimes Portugal and Spain
Stopped reading right there
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>>5347452
I hate niggers but I unironically love the History of african kingdoms and nations (Even if Egypt wasn't one) and the struggle that blacks fought during the civil rights movements.
They should have unironically been given the right to self-determination.
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Stonewall Jackson was by far the best general during the Civil War

also he was autistic
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>>5361783
African Americans are the most passive serf like people in world history at a national level. Sure they are more violent and conduct more crime, but they were brought here not of their free will, they worked not of their free will for hundreds of year, they were given freedom from slavery because other people fought for it, after that they accepted jim crow laws for decades and did nothing, the civil rights movement wasn't successful because of whatever bullshit sit ins or marches were conducted but because of the influence of a certain (((people))). Despite all the step stool that people gave them so they would side with their interests and become the serfs the US government, they still continue their passivity as the lowest members of society.

Self determination is not a right, if you want it you have to fight for it. I hold the African American in utter contempt. He is lower then a dog.

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I find it wholesome that Orthodox Christianity respects ancient greek philosophers, here's some (hagio)graphy found in a greek church! Notice that they don't wear halos
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>>5360598
>The Jews had their laws and the Pagans their Logos. The Pagan philosophers got their Logos the same way the Christ did, through the Mercy of God

They suppressed mainly sceptics and gnostics, (since they are directly against Christianity) while early christians incorporated all other greek philosophical schools from Socrates to Plotin
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>>5358515
:P
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>>5360788
>>5360612

read>>5358449

Perfectly valid philosophies like Epicureanism and Stoicism were regarded as heresies.

>muh Logos
>y-you see the Greeks got it from my God

>>5360655
why read them when I can read the people they blabbered after.

especially Thomas "muh unmoved mover (thanks Aristotle) Aquinas
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Since a mod deleted my thread within a minute of making it....

Eastern "Orthodoxy" Exposed: Their Heretical Doctrine Of God:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d07mgLoOW8g
I just watched this documentary discrediting Eastern "Orthodoxy" as pagan and unchristian. I thought its convincing and well presented.
Has anyone else seen it? Any counter-arguments?

Also, if a mod sees this post, can you tell me why my thread was deleted? I am not a rebel, but I can't follow the rules if I don't know them. At least inform me on what my crime was, so I don't repeat it.
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>>5361794
Hesychastic practices (the breathing from the documentary) involve acquiring an inner focus and blocking of the physical senses. In this, hesychasm shows its roots in Evagrius Ponticus and even in the Greek tradition of asceticism going back to Plato, to make it related to the thread OP. Also the obvious comparison to far eastern philosophers and mystics and yoga.




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