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This board is dedicated to the discussion of history and the other humanities such as philosophy, religion, law, classical artwork, archeology, anthropology, ancient languages, etc. Please use /lit/ for discussions of literature. Threads should be about specific topics, and the creation of "general" threads is discouraged.

For the purpose of determining what is history, please do not start threads about events taking place less than 25 years ago. Historical discussions should be focused on past events, and not their contemporary consequences. Discussion of modern politics, current events, popular culture, or other non-historical topics should be posted elsewhere. General discussions about international culture should go on /int/.

/his/ is not /pol/, and Global Rule #3 is in effect. Do not try to treat this board as /pol/ with dates. Blatant racism and trolling will not be tolerated, and a high level of discourse is expected. History can be examined from many different conflicting viewpoints; please treat other posters with respect and address the content of their post instead of attacking their character.

When discussing history, please reference credible source material, and provide as much supporting information as possible in your posts.

How do race realists explain away Mesoamerican architecture?
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>>16407400
Why would they need to? Those people are descended from ANE and literally the Eurasians the furthest away from Africa as possible
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>>16407400
the ruling elite died out due to dysgenics and other diasters, diseases from the old world probably wiped out what few smart people remained. Only the proles were left.
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It's wild how all of Latin America is complacent with their meaningless Spanish culture and there is zero desire to move on from this
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>>16407400
Its Fools gold and a few other chemicals that i forgot. The acids melted the stones so they eventualy sat together vry tightly.

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How do you drop the ball this hard?
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China's average IQ is twenty points higher. They are the ones who dropped the ball not the pajeets who just don't have much to work with in the first place
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>>16407165
India fell into the same retarded debt trap trying to work with westerners that every 3rd world shithole did after "decolonization".

China used its non-existent labor laws and surplus population to play into the West's need for cheap labor and compounding addiction to convenience.
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>>16407165
"Agrarian socialism", whatever that meant. You can see that the divergence doesn't start until 1970's reforms in China.
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>>16407187
What has that got to do with this graph? India and China were equally compatible until 80’s and China was partially occupied by Japan and wrecked by ww2 and civil war.

Indias colonial legacy was infinitely more productive and peaceful but they weren't able to maintain this.


>>16407248
Wrong. India didn't play ball with the west
They were purposely not aligned with anyone during the cold war which resulted in the west siding with Pakistan. India tried to play both the communists and the west by being an intermediary nation but that didn't translate into economic success.
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>>16407502
>that didn't translate into economic success.
It worked out even worse for Pakistan lol

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White genocide is not real.
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>>16406418
You're latinx and your God is a jew
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>>16406445
Yes. All of them were explicitly founded and developed as White countries.
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>>16406603
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>>16407304
None of the countries in the below picture were founded by Natives. They were more like fauna than people.
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>>16406418
Shut the fuck up kike.
>>16406448
I'm Latino and I can tell you that zionists and kikes are hated here. He's a Jew pretending not to be a Jew, a tale as old as time.

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>I wonder if /his/ has anything worth seeing today
>scroll through 1st page
>5 autistic atheists vs christians threads
>4 race threads
>2 contemporary culture threads
>1 fat bitch asking for beauty advice thread (this is a new one)
>1 history thread
>”a high level of discourse is expected” sticky sits atop it all, the only thing on the front page with any entertainment value due to the tragic irony
Has there ever been a worse fucking board?
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>>16407027
If you get rid of the buzzwords 'Black', 'Hitler', 'Nazi', 'WW2', 'White', 'Christian', 'Muslim' and 'Atheist' you just got rid of half the board and a portion of the shitty threads
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>>16407027
>>I wonder if /his/ has anything worth seeing today
>>scroll through 1st page
>>5 autistic atheists vs christians threads
>>4 race threads
>>2 contemporary culture threads
>>1 fat bitch asking for beauty advice thread (this is a new one)
>>1 history thread
>>”a high level of discourse is expected” sticky sits atop it all, the only thing on the front page with any entertainment value due to the tragic irony
>Has there ever been a worse fucking board?
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>>16407033
>>16407027
>>16407035
The shitposting will only get worse until mods segregate &Humanities
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>>16407027
Unfortunately, this board doesn't have mods or they're just asleep at the wheel. Moot didn't make a /his/ board because of the very problems we're facing now.
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>>16407071
Who is moot? Sounds like some faggot.

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Has multiculturalism actually ever worked?
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>>16406077
Two more weeks
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>>16406077
>With groups under 100 IQ average,
Not how IQ works. 100 must always be the average. If it isn't, then that IQ survey was not conducted in an honest way and should be disregarded
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>>16405890
>he doubled down AGAIN
fucking kek. something something too stupid to know youre stupid.
>They sent no tribute
what is the roman "vectigal"? which could come in the form of gold/silver or their equivalent in agricultural products. youre applying the foederati situation as a blanket when the vast majority of tribes conquered were never considered as such.
the VAST majority of tribes conquered were treated as either "civitatis vi captae" or "civitatis stipendiariae", both requiring the conquered tribes pay annual tribute to rome.
>Literally the founding myth of Rome
ah, so there wasnt any relevant multiculturalism throughout the empire, but, since the founding myth has traces of them breeding with neighbouring tribes (who were nearly genetically identical to the romans in most cases), rome was in fact a multicultural civilization. am i getting that right?

look ill reddit space so you can read this clearly since youre obviously a little mentally troubled. go back to whatever normie shithole you crawled out from. youre historically illiterate and 95 iq at best, this board has enough of those as it is.
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>>16407491
*vectigalia
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>>16403680
Their inherent racial inferiority over the Germanic gods is one point. Others would be their lower IQ (tied both to their genes and culture), higher crime rates, and general bestial behavior. They lack the Germanic soul, the soul of creation and innovation, and are just mindless automatons, constantly acting out their base animal instincts, without a single thought of tomorrow. If it wasn't for the divine greatness if the Germanic man humanity most of humanity would still live like savages, with small groups living in primitive proto-civilizational societies with basic agriculture and metallurgy, but still governed by primitive superstitions. Grim.

Are Turks and Tamils the exact same race?
somehow all taxonomical geneticists put turkics and tamils in the same cluster
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>>16407441
They share a similar belief in reincarnation, they believe that they can shed away their brownness if they find some sow. See >>16407447
This subhuman assumed I'm a jeet, so he starts bragging about all the atrocities his turkjeet ancestors did to his own people.
He's even larping as a Russian. They are that ashamed of themselves.
>>16407448
This. They aren't pretty, but they're a buffer against chinX and they aren't violent.
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After the invasion of the Turkics and Mongols, Central Asia turned into a kind of analogue of Latin America. since then they have produced literally not a single great man, although the old Iranian population of this region has produced such great scholars as Al-Khwarizmi and several others.
Turkic blood is a kind of virus that turns you into a textbook untermesch.
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>>16407474
They have nothing in common. Ever noticed how only indians have to try to attach themselves and try to claim other peoples cultures but never the other way around? It's because nobody wants to be indian, not even indians themselves.
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>>16407482
> SAAAR SAAAR WE NOT THE SAME SAAR
> SAAAR MARVEL AT MY SUBHUMANITY SAAAR
Yes, retard. I know that no one wants to be a brown turk or an Indian.
You're never gonna be welcome among us lmfao.
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>>16407496
>You're never gonna be welcome among us lmfao.
Who the fuck cares what indians think, south asians are so self hating they LOVE the thought of their ancestors being raped by arabs or british soldiers.

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>I1 cluster is the progenitors of Germanic language
>Latest thesis is that this I1 cluster entered Scandinavia from the Baltics
>This based on coinciding introduction of new breed of sheep in southern Scandinavia
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>>16407467
Because expanded iron age Hallstatt is birthplace of proto-Germanic, it had the same Germanic symbolism, technologies, same building style, same genetics as that of the Jarstoff culture it grew into.
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>>16406783
>the eternal germanic
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>>16407467
U106 originates in Ukrainian Proto-Corded Ware although it didn't survive there. PNL001 is U106 and has effectively no local admix in Czechia, being one of the oldest Corded Ware samples. U106 almost certainly expanded to Denmark from southeastern Germany/Czechia. Pre-Proto-Germanic doesn't have to exclusively derive from this migration since it's more likely to be the product of a dialect merger within Corded Ware.
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>>16407478
Jasdorf is not a birthplace of Germanic but an area where South-Scandinavians and Celts mixed.
South-Scandinavian Germanic formation has been analyzed in the paper.
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Germanic urheimat in Mälaren is a problematic thing for kraut demons for sure.

The victor returns home in triumph!
From a homeless man on the streets of Vienna to now the near invincible supreme warlord and the sole ruler of the entire Europe, a country in front of which he fought in the trenches for four long grueling years in WW1 only to lose, and now he and his armies went there and stunned the world in defeating that very country in a matter of a mere six weeks (May-June 1940).
He now returns home to his soil, a man in sheer triumph, a nation in ecstasy.
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>>16407421
Death of europe.
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Mercedes-Benz 770 Series II - W150 (1938–1944)

The 770 was substantially revised in 1938, resulting in the new internal designation of W150. The new chassis was made with oval section tubes and was suspended from coil springs all around, with independent suspension at front and a de Dion axle at the rear. Hydraulic brakes were fitted, compared to the servo-assisted mechanical brakes of the prior series. The engine had the same basic architecture as that of the W07, but had been tuned to produce 155 bhp (116 kW) at 3000 rpm without supercharging and 230 bhp (172 kW) at 3200 rpm with. The transmission now had five forward ratios with a direct fourth gear and an overdrive fifth. Top speed was around 170 km/h (106 mph). A twin-supercharged 400 hp (298 kW) model was available, able to reach a top speed of around 190 km/h (118 mph). A total of five were made. In 1938, the huge W150 was understood to have been the most expensive German passenger car for sale up to that time, though it appeared on no price list: the price was published merely as auf Anfrage ("upon request"). Eighty-eight W150-series cars were built before chassis production ended in 1944. The last cars were bodied and delivered in March 1944. Some cars of this model were offered by Hitler as gifts to his allies, namely: Marshal Ion Antonescu of Romania, Benito Mussolini of Italy, Francisco Franco of Spain, Marshal Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim of Finland and Emil Hácha of the Bohemian Protectorate. Marshal Antonescu's car, for instance, was bulletproof.
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>>16406072
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>>16406072
Nigga was the reincarnation of Heraclius.
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>>16407475
Mercedes-Benz 770 Series I - W07 (1930–1938)

The 770 was introduced in 1930 as the successor to the Mercedes-Benz Typ 630, with the internal code W07. These high-priced cars were mainly used by governments as state vehicles. Reich President Paul von Hindenburg, Emperor Hirohito and Pope Pius XI were among the customers, and Adolf Hitler used a 770 from 1931 onwards. 117 W07-series cars were built until 1938. The W07 version of the 770 was powered by an inline eight-cylinder engine of 7,665 cc (467.7 cu in) capacity with an overhead camshaft and aluminium pistons. This engine produced 150 bhp (112 kW) at 2800 rpm without supercharging. An optional Roots type supercharger, which was engaged at full throttle, would raise the output to 200 bhp (149 kW) at 2800 rpm, which could propel the car to 160 km/h (99 mph). The transmission had four forward ratios, of which third was direct and fourth was an overdrive. The W07 had a contemporary boxed chassis suspended by semi-elliptic leaf springs onto beam axles front and rear. Dimensions would vary with coachwork, but the chassis had a wheelbase of 3,750 mm (147.6 in) and a front track equal to the rear track of 1,500 mm (59.1 in).

The Mercedes-Benz 770 was known as the Großer Mercedes (German for "Great Mercedes" or "Grand Mercedes").

The historical event that was once praised as an act of liberation is now condemned as an act of colonialism.
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>>16403104
The British Empire was the first narco state and used opium to destroy entire nations to get more gold and silver

>>16406305
Nigga YOU'RE nuts.
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>>16403407
>according to legend chief onge mumbo of the doo doo joo joo tribe killed chief m'dinke with a rock in 1573 ad, after which he deposed and executed by having a burning tire placed around his neck
10/10 more interesting than america becoming the most powerful empire in history
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>>16406328
Yup. African history is pretty interesting as you read more and more about it
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>>16403104
>that was once praised as an act of liberation
In the coloniser's own propaganda? Lmao.

My knowledge of non-European history is honestly fairly pathetic and I want to fix that.
What are some good, credible and (as much as it's possible) unbiased historical books about various Asian nations and cultures? Stuff that will give me at least a decent level of understanding?
>inb4 Asia really big
No shit, I'm definitely not asking for a single book to cover all of it, I know it's a lot of material to learn. But I would like some starting points

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Zoomer (((historian))) has been completely BTFO'd.
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>>16407069
Irving is as much as a historian as I am.
Meaning zero.
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>>16407415
Acutally Irving is as much as a historian as Putin is a historian
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>>16406874
He doesnt provide sources.
Ask him for a source on the ethnic Germans being massacred in Poland in 1939.
One guy did in the comment section, his literal answer was "idk read a book?"

Lmao.
Also he still cant explain how Churchill was the one who steered Britain to refuse negotiations and continue the war, despite the fact that he says it in literally every video.
Go ahead, ask him for sources.
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>>16406430
>You tell me.
I dont know, you were the one who showed up with your chainposting mass quoting like you do in every ww2 thread regardless of the topic. You must be autistic. We are talking about shit Zoomer historian says about British parlamentarism.
>How fortuitious that both Conservatives and Labor agreed to do so on a platform of war
Whats your point?
>Now you're contradicting yourself.
Nope my point has been clear.
>Not the same thing, you wouldn't call Sunak elected, would you? This is made even "worse" by the war conditions limiting parliamentary conflicts.
When both labour and conservative agrees on Churchill, you could call that being elected. It might not be the formal use of the word in the field of politics, but it was a group of politicians who decided on him which makes him PM.
Second time you say the parlement is limited in war. How? Can you explain how the parlament was limited to the will of Churchill? Cause thats what we're debating. Zoomer historians claims that Churchill could pretty much do whatever he wanted.
>Then again, I have no doubt a platform of war would have won any election anyway
Really feels like we're debating over nothing then, since this is what we're debating yet you dont want to debate it. What are we debating about then?
The conclusion is that Churchill was acting on the will of the British interests and not his own persnal goals/debt. Call Britain retarded warmongerers, thats fine, its your opinion, but thats not what we're debating. We debating how much sole power Churchill had to make the war possible to continue.
>I meant by nazis, duh.
it's irrelevant what his enemies think of him. Whats relevant is what the British thought of him. Did he go against the will of Britain? If No, then why is it always parroted that Churchills was able in steering Britain into ww2 based solely on his own personal interests?
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>>16406430
>Not really, parliamentary consent does not really disqualify one from dictatorship
When every MP is elected in fair elections, it does. How doesnt it? Can you ever explain or are you just going to sit and tell me Churchill had dictatorial powers?
>And he was, much like the rest of the parliament, under Jewish subjection.
Im giving benefit to the debate that Churchill was under the control of the jews (which I dont believe but lets assume it for a minute just to find out how relevant it was). Now you're telling me the ENTIRE political system was under the will of the jews because the narrative that Churchill alone was enough has completely fallen apart. Yet every stormfaggot mentions Churchills debt as paramount. Why dont they just say the entire parlament then? Why this focus on Churchill? You're basically admitting that Churchill as one man is irrelevant, if jews really steered Britain into an unconditional fight, they must have been influencing EVERYONE.
>What isn't real is that he was a lone warmonger governing against a pacifist parliament.
Correct, and again, im confused why you and me are even debating now. Maybe we should stop? I'm kinda uninterested in everything else you have to say, im interested in SOMEONE explaining to me how Churchill alone could have controlled Britain into an unconditional war with Germany, which is whats being parroted in every Zoomer Historian video.
>A war cabinet suffering a vote of no confidence is a very bad sign. It still shakes his authority (which is why he resigned).
The point is that he wasnt obligated to resign. Legally he still had support. But then again, why are we even debating this? Feels like you're responding to everything for the sake of responding to everything that the original argument was lost along the way.

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>joins a terrorist organization which is recognized as such by both the country he's in (UK) and the country he and his like-minded comrades claim to be fighting for (the Republic of Ireland)
>ideals fly completely in the face of democracy as the majority of Northern Ireland's citizens want their country to remain a part of the UK (and still do today)
>demands that he and his fellows be treated as political prisoners despite the fact that they are members of a recognized terrorist organization with fundamentally no legitimate political recognition anywhere in the world
>starves himself to death in prison by choice

Can someone please explain to me why I am supposed to sympathize with this guy and his like-minded fellows?
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>>16406046
The British welfare state was developed in the 20th century under Atlee. The 19th century had workhouses for the unemployed where they would work for their food. No welfare money was given until the 20th century, just bread and a bed.

The workhouses were typically independently run at a profit by the local parish union. So please grow some braincells before posting here again. Maybe /B would be a better fit for you, ah?.
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>>16403249
I look like that and I say that
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What was the point of the troubles? Irish nationalists went from
>ireland for irish only
to
>ireland for (non-british) immigrants only
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>>16407420
it's ok for niggers to take the irish women and replace the men because they aren't le heccing oppressive capitalist baddies from england
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>>16403280
The aberage non neet joe just doesn't give a rats ass about race. The biggest race warrior on his is some half Javanese mut whose job somehow gives him unlimited time to post on his

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Christianity has historically been the MOST brutal religion. Christians are brutal savages and can't coexist with outsiders

For Muslims it's just about following rules like Pharisee Jews. But for Christians it's about the spirit. Muslims during Ramadan will fast during the day but then feast themselves silly in the evening. Some will even sleep all day and then feast all night. For Christians, fasting is a very personal endeavor. We try to follow the spirit of the fast and grow close to God in repentance.
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>>16407453
Post church attendance in Russia.


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