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What does /cgl/ think of patreon?
Who do you support?
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>selling your body for money

Sorry but I don't support Patreon or anyone that does it. I get that it's an easy way to make money for cosplay. But so is working a real job for things you want. To me it's lazy and just shameful. I'm conventionally attractive and in shape, but I have never considered (and will never consider) doing one because I think it's depreciating.
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>>9974126
Speak for yourself. Having an army of desperate horny guys that know they'll never get with you is what vain girls drive on.
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>>9974126
>I get that it's an easy way to make money for cosplay. But so is working a real job for things you want.

But why would you work harder, longer, and for less when you can snap a couple photos a month and get a salary for it? I'm a guy, but if I had the same options, its an obvious choice.

My bet is that you're either fat or butterfaced, so you just want to say you have stronger morals than the women more attractive than you to make yourself feel better.
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>>9974562

Because maybe you are thinking long term and dont want future employers googling pictures of your ass
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>>9974577
>future employers
You wouldnt have to worry about that if you looked good enough to do patreon and weren’t retarded with your money. Plus if you don’t use your real name how tf can they google you and see your ass? Dumb whale.

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Keep it /cgl/-related! Cosplay or J-fashion like Lolita/Brolita, Aristocrat, Nanchatte, etc.!

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ITT you may post:
- Useful guides that can be applied to crossplaying/crossdressing
- Questions, help, sharing advice to improve your appearance to pass temporary as the opposite gender (Male -> Female, Female -> Male)
- pictures of crossplay/crossdressing coords, selfposts
- personal experience/stories regarding crossplay/crossdressing

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- Anything in sexual context/fetish stuff
- Anything related to gender transition like hormones, operation etc.; >>>/lgbt/ might be the better place for this
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Just tried eyeliner for the first time, oh my god this is the most amazing thing ever jesus fucking christ, why isnt this more popular among men? even the sand people(men) know enough to wear them
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>>9960406
Just don't give a fuck. Literally nobody cares. Try to have fun. You care too much
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>>9968532
where would one get these?
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>>9974417
taobao or aliexpress
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>>9942127
well if you are going to cover it off with makeup your whole life why not use laser to remove it IMO its cleaner and cheaper.

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>>9974520
You mean taobao shops are trying to sell lolita-shaped dresses to people who don't like lolita
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>>9974520
Not my style at all, but it's nice to see people trying something different.
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>>9974517
I only own one and my criteria were these:

>Must be long
>Must match most of my wardrobe (e.g. not pastel)
>Must have a cape with a hood

I own a proper waterproof, goose-down parka for the particularly nasty days. I live in New England so I need to wear the parka for about half of winter season, and my AaTP coat is for days where it's not snowing/freezing rain. If I lived in the Mid-Atlantic (where I grew up) I'd probably own 3 or 4 brand coats but where I am now, it's not worth it to shell out the $ for outerwear that I can't wear often.
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>>9974520
There was a circuitry dress last year from a different Taobao brand and I don't think I've ever seen anybody wear it
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Do you think yahoo auctions is slowly dying like mbok? Mercari and fril are already battlefields of who has the fastest SS, but why don't japanese lolitas want to earn more money by giving it to the one who offers the most?

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>>9974572
I know. But if someone is having a lolita fetish the odds of them approaching me because of it rather than generally finding anything else in me attractive is much higher. Idk if I'm just total nonsense at this point, I'm sorry sometimes it's hard to express myself in English.
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howabouts do I find a group of self aware autistics, social outcasts and rebels?

It can be a group of obnoxious roiders, anime fans, people who cosplay in public, lolitas, edgelords, alt/goths, radical vegans, extremist feminists, whatever.

I really need to fill a hole in my social life and I am absolutely disgusted and bored of normies, its not even worth speaking to them its always the same normie shit.
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>>9974585
>howabouts do I find a group of self aware autistics, social outcasts and rebels?
you are already here, anon.
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>>9974590
I mean in real life, I love you all, but sometimes actual human contact would be good
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>>9974573
Science? Citation please. Are you seriously incapable of judging the appearance of something without thinking "would I have sex with it?"
How do you look at art? I doubt you are bi, so how do you look at people of the same sex as you?

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Post cosplay-related questions here. For Lolita/Jfash, see the Stupid Questions thread here: >>9960772
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>>9974162
Aw, that's a shame. I hope you have a real fun time.
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>>9973895
Thank you anon! I’ll see if I can find black and a metallic green to give it some depth, are there any brands you’re fond of?
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>>9974231
Thanks. You too!
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>>9974196
>walking up to someone randomly is the only way to approach people

is this like a way of thinking for introverts or something? or the socially awkward person that thinks they know how to talk to people?

ive met a ton of people just from sitting next to them during panels or even just standing in line to said panels.
or during cosplay gatherings. even if youre not there in cosplay, theres still people around you most likely taking pictures and its really easy to get into a conversation with them.

like that other anon said, theres more than one way to approach people. stop over analyzing shit.
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So I've been thinking about dressing up as BotW Zelda for Halloween this year, but I definitely want to buy a wig rather than make one. The closest wig I have found so far is the Donatella from Wigs & Grace, but of course, they don't have it in yellow. What is the best way to dye an expensive Kanekalon wig and not ruin it completely?
https://www.wigsandgrace.com/collections/donatella/products/platinum-donatella
There's a link to the platinum version, in case that helps.

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How do the most rich in lolita make their money? Does anyone follow any closely enough to know? I'm talking about the people who are buying $600+ dollar pieces, going around the world to various tea parties, buying the ultra expensive MTOs that range around a thousand or higher. I'm especially curious about the nouveau riche in China.

Also, money related thread for burando in general and how you make it and money advice.
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>>9974500
>why do people actually want to be billionaires
Because they can buy and often even do whatever they want that way?

I mean, don't kid yourself, rich makes life more easy in most aspects. As billionaire you could do whatever you want, no matter if it's working all day and living your life like other non-billionaires or big vacations all over the world and doing nothing all day. You can buy that fancy car or a normal simple one or both. You don't need to worry about money ever again, and just do what you like.

Or you could work because there is not enough money if you don't even when you don't feel like it, and have to look at the money to make sure it's properly divided between stuff you need and stuff you want.

The only thing against it is that you need to be careful people won't befriend you just for money, but on the other side, people befriend poor people just to use them to get money so being careful who you trust is an issue everywhere, and rich people can handle the possible damage more easy there too. Is that really a hard thing to understand the pro's of having money in a money driven society?
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>>9974579
Of course the Chinese don't care about other Chinese. Their government teaches them not to or they get screwed.
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>>9972831
Congrats on that master bait OP.
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>>9974579
I was just pointing out that Apple isn't a good example of companies being nice to people and still becoming big and rich, not stating my own opinion on it. They use the laws in China very gladly even if it makes people kill themselves. Because they value profit over those lives, which is a good attitude to become rich.

Then they sell us the phones top notch price while they are actually only mediocre, by brainwashing people into thinking it's the next best thing on the market. And then people buy all of it once again, so they can be cool and fit with the crowed of people thinking they are great and having cool stuff. Because Apple doesn't care about your wallet unless it's going strait to them. And they treat customers well because they spend, not because they are so nice.

Honestly, I could give less shits about Apple. I don't even care about their business pratices. I was just saying that Apple isn't an example of companies being good to people and still becoming rich, but if anything, makes the point of "not caring about others makes it easier to become rich" stronger.
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>>9974588
You're saying people in the rest of the world stand up for a rando getting treated badly when it's not their fucking problem?

I don't think it's a Chinese thing to not make other peoples problems your problem.

Post good and inspiring cosplayers
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>>9971001
There's nothing wrong with enjoying youth.
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>>9970247
Kalinka Fox
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>>9971979
oh yes
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>>9972441
by far my favourite
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>>9972434
>His MO was always mentioning how hot his wife is.
Oh so he is Ben Shapiro now?

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No discord, more bags edition

Previous thread >>9956694

Itabag FAQ and Beginners Guide - DO NOT POST YOUR QUESTION IF YOU HAVEN'T READ THIS FIRST
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XjbF7suzx1tE5pbK4HslTSpxjyD3YegkqfWIi8zekwc/edit?usp=sharing

Old thread archives
>https://warosu.org/cgl/?task=search2&search_subject=itabag&search_op=op&search_ord=new

Buyf/a/g Guide
>buyfag.moe

Discord Link
>https://pastebin.com/raw/uyMYVnPe

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>Spoiled on first experience with itabagging, character was somewhat unpopular but from a fotm series. Could easily snatch up merch for as little as 400 yen a pop
>End up falling in love with a lot more niche series, decide to make an itabag tribute to the two main characters
>Look up merch of it
>Single charm typically costs 3500 yen and up.
>Listings that exist for itabaggable merch in general are largely few and far between

I know I can't complain too much since my first bag was so easy and a lot of people have it much harder. But it sure sucks to go from being spoiled for choice to this.
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>>9974320
YES. All my friends are excited for fucking Vault boy and I'm just hype for all the cute Fatgum plushies and Pita! charms.

I thought about getting Kiri merch to go with it but I'm going to wait and see the merch first.
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Rip me, my waifu is from an older harem anime everyone's forgotten about.
Official merch is few and far between, her cast off fig is 600+
How do you go about finding fan made merch to fill out your bags? Is that looked down upon?

I'm not really on your level guys, so any advice you can give will really help.
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>>9974361
As long as it isn't a series that's loaded with merch (ie: yuri on ice, love live, sailor moon, etc) then I think it's totally fine. I think bags with a mix of fanmerch and official merch usually look pretty cute if it's done correctly.
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>>9974228
Steven universe is just bad in general

Previous Thread >>9960772

Post your lolita and other jfashion questions here! For any cosplay questions, your best bet is the Cosplay Help Thread: >>9960780
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Why are a lot of the jfashion threads dead/gone? Larme, casual cute/girly, kimono, menhera etc. and the hair, skincare and make-up threads merged into 1.
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>>9974415
Not enough interest to keep them going on their own, unfortunately. If people don't post, threads die. Having active merged threads is better than nothing at all imo.
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>>9974415
I think Discord and Amino have taken a lot of the discussion off 4chan.
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please help identify this OP she always wears, I love it so much
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>>9974561
>lolibrary.org
>type metamorphose velour in the search bar
>???
>profit

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>>9974101
The jacket and cat dress are two separate things anon. Also, is that one of the dresses that was a Haneuli giveaway where she used pics of your pets? If so it’s the first time I’ve seen one. I was wondering how they’d turn out.
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>>9974451
>that wig
why
>those modly cheese tights
why
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>>9973587
>>9973597
>>9974288
3 Holy Lantern coords in less than a week and in the same colorway no less, it's truly the basic bitch dress of lolita at this point.
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>>9973525
The shoes and the hair really bring this down. It could have been pretty.
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>>9974485
Her dress is RPA, not Haenuli

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That 30-year old boomer who is still looking for HL on their dream dress list. Discuss here. Old thread >>9948679
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https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m269182258
I remember an anon a while back looking for brand yukatas, if you're still here, this might be of interest to you?
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I hated this when it came out... now I fucking need it. (Just the black... just this cut)
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>>9970575
Thank you, anon, but I’m looking for the jsk!
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to the anon who was looking for the meta apple print skirt
https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/meta-apple-print-mini-skirt
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Heh, they don't make great prints like they used to back in my days *sips monster*

Last thread died and we didn't have a new one since a while,let's fix this

Old thread: >>9880689


FAQ (Please Read!):
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E0PUag4NzqCCFZ7s2AE_QefWhni2NwvC9sxrRpKeYXk/pub

Taobao Dictionary:
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ams6Fl3miZSndGZIUnY0eGludFBMYVJpTF8yTWwzTEE

New Store Spreadsheet:
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1blGT09mNzgs0qCZFB3a1vwKTpkNtV-uIGaQV6z80UX0/edit

Budgeting Spreadsheet Template:

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>>9974273
I'm a plus size lolita, what sort of measurements do you have?

Im pear shaped so thankfully my bust and waist are sort of normal which makes dress and blouse shopping more manageable.
But my ass/hips/legs are huge so finding bottoms (tights/pants/shorts/etc) is extremely difficult

My bust is about 96cm, waist about 80cm. I have my first ever taobao brand dress on preorder but Ive seen people larger than me wear it so I think it'll fit. So unfortunately I dont have much experience in actual dresses.

Dear Celine XL blouses almost always fit me. For dresses I'd recommend finding items around your measurements and if it has shirring than it'll probably work out. No shirring options for larger sizes are always risky, I wouldn't recommend
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>>9974232
>tfw it just arrived today at the warehouse and it's less than 50$
I hope you'll get the same luck. Go,go and make an amazing cosplay anon!
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>>9972815
Just a warning, they're actually tights, I just suck at making collages: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=563207837050

half top: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=38612453771
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>>9971082
>tfw finally got your dream dress after checking every day/months of trying and missing 2.taobao listings
>Your shopping service is such a bro that they put it on a mannequin and took photos of the details

It's like shared happiness.
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>>9974515
Oh shit you reminded me that 2taobao exists.
I'm happy for you anon

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>Please read the FAQ before posting in the thread (always updating)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PpDyjw2LDxbupdvHMNsBUOBVB66Lzwf44RM1You1GDA/edit?usp=sharing
>Resources
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10uNmynwRn6CRc-OMqCeXmJwCNnEnd-vYi-7AQzSx74I/edit?usp=sharing
>Artist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ESQ-1h4IRUivbGNaxJFxXyDU1lSv26xTmMdH0sDX7sU/edit?usp=sharing
>How to order from Vograce (now with video on how to set up files)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18UxKnpgrmeb82NnW5e4YIEX-eZ3zHt178Mp6i0A5gME/edit?usp=sharing
>Convention List (always WIP)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13o7hD5xS3sDqVptnTVGUlRae3ovEE-vPPST_QOrQwtM/
>IP taketowns (based on artists contribution, may or may not have been a one time thing, use as a guideline)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1696MDhNPhrZ0ySZhXkoJnGxb7l1OjW4JsVhu1wKvaWE
>AA Inspo (thanks anon!)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1D19QV9nHwaY8AaNiEXZAAkEhkBTSsb01?usp=sharing


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>>9974279
Before anyone asks, they had months to be able to get the item they want. Even if it was a high-demand item, I try to keep some quantity stocked in my store for a certain length of time, but I can't keep it there forever.
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>>9973863
>>9973893
>>9974021
Thank you so much anons!
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>>9973528
>"characters, clothing, and settings"
>barely even one of those things on the cover
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what is a good thing to present prints in? i have a slideshow presentation type booklet, but it is kind of ugly black plastic. should i use it and put stickers on, or are there prettier alternatives?

>>9973528
has anyone reviewed this? i'd love to know what actually went in it.
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>>9974279
Yup, I get this all the time, though mine's mostly on older product that I've stopped selling because it's old and bad. I had a particular product that was available for years until I finally, FINALLY, sold out of them, and this girl rolls up and asks me if I'm making more because she reallllllly wanted one. That product was so unpopular that it took me years to get rid of them, I was literally giving them away at one point, no way am I making more. If she wanted one so badly then she had years to pick it up.

'Punk Rock Goddess of War' edition
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>>9972773
Probably, but I look nice while being one.
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>>9974458
nayrt but I think anon talked about the ones we see in lolita, not around her.
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>9974437
They are there. They just tend to be more casual about it so it doesn't draw as much attention, while the extreme ones tend to have the "look at me being different. Different is so much better than normal" complex, where in the most extreme cases "normal" things are being shunned blindly because they are "normal" and therefore only for sheep who blindly follow the trend. Kinda like they feel like they have to proof that they are alternative. And it's not just special snowflakes, but I found many actual alternative people also act like this when they start out (especially kids and pubers/young adults, but sometimes also adults) and generally become more normal and calm later on.

You often won't recognise the ones with one or two alternative beauty features (I like that way of describing it), because it's not so screaming in your face. Especially in a fashion where things are already extreme and over the top, one or a few small things don't draw attention. I think the fact that people are not so busy with showing how different they are is why you mis it easily. I've seen many who have tattoos, or a piercing, but are otherwise normal looking. I have multiple alternative beauty features myself, but in lolita, it'll look like I could be normie unless you look for it.

It's on the other hand also kinda a thing with anything alternative. It's easy to set more steps once you started. People already look at you weird, so it doesn't matter much anymore if you go more extreme. Just like how many tattoo enthousiasts will keep wanting more tattoos after they got tattooed, even if they just wanted one small thing and nothing else before. It's not for everybody, some people like a few alternative beauty features but not a lot. But it's quite common that they do like multiple "weird" things simply because they are very open to things that others consider weird, so once the step to do it is set, it's easy to do the rest they want as well.
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>>9974437
>>9974574
Damnit, somehow did that wrong



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