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Where is the boundary between man and beast?
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>>2129760
Man, africans/aboriginals, beast
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People are animals so there isn't one?

Just because people have "morals" doesn't mean they will die any slower from a tiger or whatever. To other animals we may as well just be slower naked monkeys to them.
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Let me clarify. I meant the boundary between the genus homo and everything else.
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>>2130221
B-but muh human exceptionalism...
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>>2130233
Humans clearly are exceptional though - what other species can say it's evolved to a point where it can sit around and shitpost on /an/ all day? Whether or not that's a good thing is another matter.

Lidless edition

Anyone here go lidless?

Do you get jumpers?
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>>2128623
Well, it's a cycle, so there're technically no ends to the nitrogen cycle. As well as that, marine plants, as well as freshwater plants from streams and drainages will convert the nitrate in the ocean to nitrogen which is literally over 3/4 of the atmospheric composition of air and water, which is processed out as organic ammonia, and the cycle continues. This is why the walstad aquariums are so self sufficient.
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>>2130166
>As far as feeding them directly, what do i feed them and how?
They'll eat anything. Algae wafers, shrimp pellets, shrinking pellets, flake food, frozen bloodworms and brine shrimp, etc. Just make sure you have food falling to the substrate so they can get it.
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>>2130166
every Corydoras species needs zo be kept in a group of at least 6 individuals
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Making a lighting rig for a nano tank. Paid about $10 for the parts.

I checked store bought setups and they ran way into the hundreds of dollars. Why wouldn't you just make one?
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>>2130234
Do you have any preferred any links for a DIY? I'm thinking about building a light when I upgrade my mudskipper tank.

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Has anybody on here had birds nesting in their attic?

Well, I have now.. They started making noise a couple of days ago, and it's getting louder. I think they are Starlings.

They wake me up at around 4am, with their disgusting chirping noises and rattling around. It's driving me mad, does anybody know how I get rid of these cunts?

A humane way, I need to do it ASAP before they push me over the edge and I stick their nest with them in it in the microwave until they STFU
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Starlings used to come into my house through the roof and lay eggs next to my water heater. We'd just gather the babies and take them to an animal sanctuary.
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>>2129909
>>2130159

You both should be concerned there's even a hole in your roof big enough to let a bird the size of a startling in your house, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's let other stuff in too. That should be your priority, figuring out how they got in and fixing it or else this and worse will just keep happening. If there's an actual nest, just take it to a sanctuary and explain you can't have birds living in your roof. Or try putting it in a tree nearby. Honestly either way they probably won't survive, but they're starlings so that's okay
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kill them. you are now a force of nature and helping to advance the evolution of species. kill them all
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>>2130177
>You both should be concerned there's even a hole in your roof big enough to let a bird the size of a startling in your house
You're insane. A starling can fit into insanely tiny cracks that would be hard to spot. Those fuckers can squeeze into spots a mouse couldn't.

Starlings also have communal nests. So if there is one gettin in, t here will probably be more.
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>>2130219
Dude, if you have birds roosting in your attic then you need to fix your house. Saying they can fit in tiny holes is just an excuse to not fix your shit.

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It seems to me, around this time of year we get a lot of people who are begging for money or can't afford X,Y or Z. So let's get a thread on what you can cut corners on so we can get some /an/ons to start putting money away for vet bills.
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>>2129600
Not feeding your pets the weeds around you.

Dandelions and plantago, lambs quarters, purslane.


>>2129873
Freshwater trapical fish can be kept at lower temperatures in certain parts of the year.
Just don't let it dip below 72 and most fish will find renewed vigor and the algaes will slow growth. It's useful to change temperatures for breeding though, and fish with delicate immune systems shouldn't get too cold. (bettas for instance)

If you have any crustaceans in your freshwater.
Buy some ocean salt mix and add a pinch during each water change.

You can let tap water sit out for a couple days and use it for most fish.
Or rainwater for the kinds that can't handle excess minerals.

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Any recs on good litter that isn't expensive? I'm getting a kitten Friday and I need to find a litter box and some cheap litter
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>>2130160
How old is the kitten? If it is like 2-3 months old, try using the tops of shoe boxes for a litter pan for a little while because kittens that small sometimes have trouble getting into anything that's big. Otherwise, you can get cheap litter boxes by buying deep baking pans, Tupperware tubs, or you could make one out of old busted dresser drawers or trunks (the latter end up looking really fucking sharp for a litter box). If you can find something lying around that you just don't use anymore, that would obviously be the cheapest. Paying $10 for a tiny piece of plastic for your cat to shit in should be a crime when you can get a box 4X the size for less

As far as litter goes, buying in bulk is really key as shown in >>2129618. From there you would have to do math yourself to figure out what is cheapest by pound. However, there are alternatives that are even cheaper; Wood pellets used for cooking or heating you can buy in big quantities for pretty cheap, but DON'T buy Feline Pine; that's literally just expensive wood pellets. Saw dust can also make good litter and is very cheap, but don't bother if you can't buy it in bulk. If you can get Pine Chips used for horse bedding, that would also be very cheap and very much in bulk (it usually comes in horse quantities, so buying in bulk would probably last half of your cat's life) and you can generally find in farm stores like Tractor Supply. Then, there's the potentially free litter - making your own litter out of newspaper. Go to stores and ask for their old papers. Although its probably one of the few free methods of obtaining cat litter, it's a long process and takes a day or two for it to dry and become usable.

>http://thegreenists.com/pets/tip-of-the-day-make-your-own-kitty-litter/1044
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>>2130160
I've seen stuff like ground up corn (maybe bird filler?) used as cat litter too, but I have no idea if it would be cheaper than wood pellets

With a kitten I would highly suggest making a budget for him now; you're going to have to pay for a lot of vet bills soon and very quickly too. Spay/neuter, rabies vaccine, 3 distemper shots, all of which will come with their own vet visit and therefore their own office charge. But there is a lot of corners to cut, you could probably cut enough to save at least $10 but probably closer to $30 a week that you could put towards vet costs. Pro-tip; never ever buy cat toys
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>>2129767
>costs are deflated

Deflation is bad, though. It incentivizes people to hoard money instead of invest, makes those in debt further behind, and hurts economic growth and exports.

Deflation is bad.

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can we get a shark thread going?
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>>2127572

Is that fish eatting parasites out of the Shark's wound or is it just nomming on the shark?
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>>2123134
>Do you think Shark Week will be good this year?

probably not.
Its been going downhill since they switched from scaring people about the damage humans to do sharks to scaring people about the damage sharks can do to humans


I do have a shark related question though.
When I was a kid all the things I'd watch or read said filter feeding sharks used their gills to sift out food to eat.

But gills are sensitive and are needed for breathing.

So how do they actually sift plankton and tiny crustaceans out of the water so that they can eat them and how do they do it without damaging the organs they breathe with?
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>>2129491

By doing exactly what you're saying they shouldn't.
Search "gill rakers" on google.
They're structures not unlike baleen hairs.
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>>2128642
That shark here>>2127572 has definitely been bitten by another shark
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>>2123134
You mean great white and megalodon week

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>Boyfriend and I are saving for a Shiba. >Disagreeing with what to call it, since we're only a couple of hundred away from being able to afford one.
>Dream name for any dog was 'Guts' like from the Mankanshoku family in KLK.
>Partner says 'no, that's stupid, let's call it Doggo'
>Doggo grows on me
>Partner changes his mind to simply 'doge' like a fucking pleb

>????????????????

Also share pics, webms or gifs of Shibas and info of yours.

Bonus points if you give tips for finding/buying and/or caring/training bbs.
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>>2130121
>Not getting a Shiba male neutered
That dog is going to chew someone's face off, and you and your weeb trash BF are going to get sent to prison.
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>>2130121
>Actually, I'm thinking about naming it senpai :3 just came to me. I want a male but idk how i feel about neutering.

I wish arson was legal.
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>>2130110
>>2130121
>>2130131
Okay, confirmed troll, move along everyone. OP well played, you rustled a lot of jimmies, but ultimately you went too far, 8/10 effort
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>>2128978
>getting one of the worst possible dog breeds for beginners because a cancerous meme exists of it
both of you, kill yourselves
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>>2130187
>Okay, confirmed troll, move along everyone.

I think the OP was genuine. Some smart ass took up the retard-reigns and turned it into a troll.

Found a wolf spider in my home, big as FUCK

Should I be worried? I live in a basement suite

How to spider proof home?
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>>2129977
I fucking hate this board.
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>>2129977
Spiders don't suck blood in any instance. A spidernis never going to gain any nutrition from a human being and will only bite in self defense.
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Wolf spiders are pretty harmless. They are just natural explorers because they don't use webs to catch prey. I used to get a couple in my room every year because it had an exterior door. Check any windows or doors leading outside. Look at the reveals, weather stripping, sweeps, thresholds. There's a gap somewhere and all those tend to wear over time or doors sag and don't close tight. It's an easy fix.
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>>2129977
fuck man...
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>>2130020
Leave then

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I found this weird animal in my stool. I didn't want to just leave it there floating in the toilet and potentially drowning so i took it out and put it in a pickle jar. How do I rehabilitate and safe this lovable segmented wormy? Can I take it to a shelter?
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> hey guys I was just using this ol' scanning electron microscope I had laying around to look at my poop.

Yeah nah, fuck off
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yeah put it back up ya bum that's its shelter

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Hey /an/

Found this sucker in my kitchen. This is a young one, the adults are all black, and about 4 cm long.
Any idea what this is ? (I live in the south of France)

>"Saurian is an open world survival video game being developed for PC and Mac. Our goal is providing the most captivating and scientifically accurate prehistoric experience yet developed: living the life of a dinosaur. Players will take control of several extinct species in their natural environment and attempt to survive from hatchling to adult".

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1379624404/saurian-an-open-world-dinosaur-survival-experience

Post your hyenas here!

Discussion on why hyenas are the best and maybe worst.

Begin.
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Carnotaurus prolly occupied the same niche but better
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>>2130006
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For christ sake hyenafag just stop, nobody shares you trashdog furry fantasies.

>>2130173
>dem armlets
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African painted dog I think, but still a cool pic.
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>>2130206

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CHICKEN THREAD
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>>2127665
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bock bock
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>>2127665

/sci/ here, is there any logic in thinking that sapient lifeforms must have a humanoid shape?
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Bump
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>>2128568
>parrots
>elephants
>corvids
>cetaceans

To name just a few highly intelligent, social, self aware animals on our own planet. Our "humanoid" form is not an inevitable evolutionary goal, nor a requirement.
To be capable of using tools effectively and building large, complex structures though, any alien creature capable of forming a civilization would need some sort of set of manipulating appendages.

Possibly also

>social
>mid sized
>able to adapt to a wide variety of environments
>able to process a wide variety of food/energy sources

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>>2128296
The whole "ancient hominins used hands to free up their mouths, helping them develop speech" is an obsolete meme.

In pre-neolithic times(as well as in some living cultures), it was very common to use the mouth as a tool, even among modern humans(homo sapiens sapiens). This is evidenced by heavy wear on their teeth.
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>>2129183
I thought it was more that freeing up hands allowed them to be used as, well, hands. Don't know why that would effect speech, unless you permanently have something in your mouth.
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190 goddamn meters tall

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-cxg8mF_Lw
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>25:27
>beta smaller non-alpha male cuttlefish turn into faggot crossdressing fish to get the males to fuck them.

Holy fuck it is like humans.
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>27:18
Holy fuck female cuttlefish females are whores.
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>>2128339
>to get the males to fuck them.

They actually just do it to sneak pass them to get closer to the females. They don't fuck the males.

>>2128340
As Maroon 5 said in their famous movie line: These 'hos ain't loyal.
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Why haven't we domesticated the Goose yet?
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The only case where being around these fucks is satisfying is when you hurt them

Prove me wrong
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They are constantly, constantly shitting.
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>>2129235
obligatory
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>>2130153
>hon hon hon
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>>2129131

I just realize I've never had goose meat.

For those who have, how does it taste?


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