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We encourage you to have a look around the catalog first to see what we’re all about before posting your first thread. Topics typically posted here include:
>Outdoor recreational activities (Hiking, trail running, bushwhacking, camping, spelunking, geocaching, orienteering, expeditions, urban exploration, backpacking, etc.)
>Gardening, farming and related activities
>Hunting and fishing, and other activities involving the stalking or taking of game (including bird-watching)
>Outdoor survival, bushcraft, foraging, self-sustenance in nature, train-hopping, hoboism, etc.
>Outdoor destinations and exploration (specific trails, parks, regions, etc.)
>Water-related activities (boats, diving, etc.)
>Outdoor philosophy (conservation, Leave No Trace, protectionism, etc.)
>Outdoor building and living (cabins, huts, treehouses, etc.)
>Outdoor social activities and organizations (meet-ups, Scouts, NOLS, etc.)
>Gear related to any of the above topics

Most topics related to the outdoors are fine. Write properly, behave politely, encourage a respectful community, and most importantly, GO OUTSIDE!!
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Just a friendly reminder that threads about weapons which do not pertain to their use in outdoor activities should be posted on /k/ instead. Thanks.

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You think I'd be all right in the wilderness for a few weeks?

Obviously I'd need to hunt and find fresh water but if I were lost in yosemite I think I'd be all right

Anyways come design your backpack

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>why would you do that
Well I've gone with that before. Less food and water mind you.
No. Men since the beginning were designed to work with nature, and submit to it. Since agriculture began, many things came: starvation, tragedies, droughts, famines, human weakness, slavery, malnutrition (due to eating one or two types of food only), war (one tribe, town or country had to fight for food when their harvest failed), stupidity (farmers were less likely do die when not planning ahead), tyranny (when one man had all the food, he could decide who to give that food), physical weakness (all it takes to gather crops is a few hand movements, while the hunter-gatherer had to hunt animals by even wrestling them).

I doubt mommy would pay for your 144 bottles of soylent in a survival situation, kiddo.
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Rocky Mountain setup

am I fucked?
How long you plant to stay out? The OP's 2 weeks or >>800346 anon's 2 years on Rocky Mountain planet?

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#60-">tfw Too Hot" Edition

Previous Thread:

Catfishing last night was a failure, although I did kinda half ass it. I guess I'll just go for more bass and sneks today. Only problem is it's so damn hot with this FL sun. I'll probably lounge around, then go waste some money at Bass Pro, and go out to a lake around 5pm or 6pm.

It's Saturday, y'all better be out there too.

Talk about fishin

Ultralight head pack is glorious . also.....

Ultralight hate club.
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Personally, I'd rather use a dolley like those game carts with the large bike-looking wheels. They are really nice for carrying massive amounts of stuff.

holds 500lbs
solid rubber wheels
solid steel with brown powder finished

Funny thing is that most "hiking" versions of this stuff is insanely expensive.
My ruck is currently 49.3lbs, including 72 hours of food, and 2L of water.

I could drop 3lbs easily by buying a modern pack, and I could drop more weight by getting rid of backup/redundant gear, or by choosing to freeze my arse off at night. I just don't want to. I can carry the weight and I want the necessary tools and materials to get my own ass out of trouble should it happen, and the ability to survive unexpected inclement weather.

My impression is that ultralighters rely on civilization to help them when very minor things go wrong. That's fine; there's nothing inherently wrong with that. Civilization probably isn't going anywhere any time soon and relying on it isn't some kind of moral failure, given that all modern humans have to rely upon it to some degree.

For myself, I think it's a cop-out to rely on civilization for every minor problem, especially when hiking is all about getting away from civilization. If you don't carry the tools and materials needed to effect even the most minor repairs to your gear while hiking, or carry even the most minimal 'emergency' or backup equipment, then you're not really getting away from civilization. You're not relying upon yourself for anything, and that's what hiking is to me: proving to yourself that you can be relied upon.
In the 1980s, I did extreme ultra light camping. Just stuff that fits in a 35mm film canister for 2 weeks at a time and the stuff I'm wearing. The only metal I had was inside the canister, razor blades, needles, and fish hooks. 1st off the freedom is absolutely amazing. You can sleep literally everywhere anywhere you want since you don't need to find a spot just right for angle and size to pitch a tent. Obviously, I don't live in a place where there's a shit load of insect or scorpion problems. The worst I got is a wolf spider running across my face; which is no worse than in my house at times.

I did a ton of foraging, gathering, snaring, and fishing. On each occasion, by the end of the 1st week I had earthenware bowls I fired in makeshift mud kilns. I could heat stones and drop them into the bowls of water to boil the water and make stew/soup. The water I got prior to that for the week was from vegetation (chew, suck juices out, & spit out plant unless I was eating it.) Only after the bowls are made do I drink water I harvest from other sources.

It was a lot of fun. I made shelters, bows & arrows, cordage, and some tanned hides. But, since I was only ever out for 2 weeks I never had to really hustle to harvest, hunt, and preserve food stocks or build a permanent shelter. I could have done that, I mean I'm a farmer and that is kinda what I do as a living, but not needing to do that, knowing that I'll return to a normal home, puts one's mind at ease. Which can detract from the experience. Make no mistake, actually acquiring enough food and preserving it to last months is a monumental task for someone alone in the woods. You literally eat and breath hard work the entire time, no days off.
You must live in a warmer climate than I. That would only be feasible in the height of summer in Canada.

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Brit thread and general?
What trails are your favourite?
Any trails you are planning to go on?
Any sc/out/s near each other?
Good equipment for out shit weather.
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Dumb question

Have only done day hikes like Snowdon myself, would it be stupid to randomly go on a 10 day walk across the Alps straight off the bat

Made a thread
fml I'm moving to Rugby with work next month literally no place that's properly /out/ its some farmers fields at best. Have to live there for a year, any suggestions? I'm from the Lakes so its gonna suck.

You got a car? Google is your friend on this one.
Why? What kind of preparation would I need to do? I think I'm reasonably fit

Columbia PFG fishing shirt has little lint clingys they are really stuck on there have to remove by hand. What are some good summer outerwear clothing options

Would it be possible to survive in middle Europe out of civilization? Lets say SHTF happens and supermarkets, etc. are empty. Is there still enough food and water in this kind of "nature"? We rarely have wild animals and I can't think of many edible wild-plants (I'm still a beginner to /out/ so I might be wrong).
if people were starving then millions of people would roam through the woods and shoot any animal they saw, it would not be sustainable hunting
This. And most would not know how to dress and butcher the animals. Your best bet would be to make your way to farms that rely on tractors to do most of the work, and offer your services and protection in exchange for a promise of food.

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Post /out/ pictures that make you super comfy.
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Thats a lil rapey m8
Looks comfy af
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fell for the auto stop meme
Well, arent we all?
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this pic radiates comfyness

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Old thread: >>797118

Companion Planting - Raised Beds - Vertical Gardening - Square Foot Gardening - Polyculture - Composting - Mulching - Vermiculture - Espalier - Fungiculture - Aquaponics - Greenhouses - Cold Frames - Hot Boxes - Polytunnels - Forest Gardening - Aquaculture


Murray Hallam’s Aquaponics: (sample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYR9s6chrI0 )

-Aquaponics Secrets DVD
-Aquaponics Made Easy DVD
-DIY Aquaponics DVD (Aquaponics The First 12 Months And Aquaponics DIY DVD)

Backyard Aquaponics

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can't seem to find any pictures of it, but you basically find a bunch of twigs with a lot of branches and throw them on top of the plant before the growing season starts so they basically use it as support to grow.

I've done it for some of my customers, I'll take a picture of it next week.

Last year I bought a few purple potatoes online. A paltry amount came in the mail. I've been growing them since then and today I have my first food crop from them. Normally, I would replant all the potatoes, but I don't have enough room for that right now. At least I'm able to get 2 seasons worth of potatoes per year with these; propagating them is fast.
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this is my pond, rate it
also lets talk aout ponds
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I've never had trouble with mine. They get massive too. Only hail rips them up. They don't normally fall over unless animals tromp through them for whatever reason.

>old pic of one, in my yard from 2002

I've no clue at all what variety this is, there's just soooo many that look like this.
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we talked about ponds before.
that's because the varietion you have doesn't have that many petals.

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Ive heard Bushcraft by mors kochanski and bush craft by richard graves are the only two books you really need to know how to survive.

How true is that? If you don't entirely agree what books would you add to read?
its a great book, i own it, and i would recommend it
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>Go to /out/
>See this
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This has been my personal outdoors bible since I've been interested. Some of it is pretty silly (Who would ever want to make a hat out of bark?) but seeing how I live in the southwest, there's a LOT more useful information in here than Mors' book, which is focused more in the north. It's chock full of useful tidbits. The only thing I'd debate is treatment of snakebites, but that's a huge shitshow to begin with.
This is the book I picked up about survival. I've been liking it so far, I feel it has clear explanations and proper wording for a native-English speaker. Anyone else picked up this book? thoughts? I'm curious what other people think. I have this one and the first one, "Bushcraft 101"

I just came to this board to say I hate the bug out bag meme and the whole SHTF 'prepper' community.

It's all mallninja dads circle jerking over tacticool gear marketed to them by the very system they're preparing for the collapse of.

Every one of these weekend surivautist manchildren would crumble in a real 'situation'.

>Playing into the hands of the commercialised apocalypse

Laughable, and fuck you if you have a bug out bag.
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lol at the multimeter
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This has to be bait. Have some fat tits for the effort.
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blue board yo
tits aren't porn, you fucking prudish faggot. #freethenipple

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Why would anyone want to go hunting?

whats the actual appeal in murdering something? does it make you feel big or something? explain to me how killing animals is anything other than a sick, fucked up excuse for enacting gore that isn't illegal.

Literally explain this to me.
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Yep, call up your local government biologist and they'll explain to you the role hunting plays in sustainable resource management.
It's fun to shoot things. And I can eat it afterwards.

Well, since you brought up government biologists opinions on _sustainable_ hunting:

IIED supported it's use in Africa with the CAMPFIRE program: http://pubs.iied.org/15503IIED.html

Convention on Biological Diversity supports it: https://www.cbd.int/decision/cop/?id=13186

The James Hutton institute has found that for game birds, those countries that practice walked up shooting coupled with state licensing (North America and Scandanavia in particular) tended to have good biodiversity: http://www.hutton.ac.uk/sites/default/files/files/RSPB_ReportFINAL_Covers.pdf

I will aknowledge that subsistence farming tends to absolutely demolish certain species, but that's really not what anyone is talking about here, is it?
as a biology major hunting is a necessity because we took the predators out of the ecosystem, and eliminated the control from above system the herbivores IE deer moose bison ect we have to step in and prevent them from eating everything and leaving nothing for other species. If we dont hunt biodiversity is going to suffer even more than when we do hunt.

Any Brit bongs up for a sc/out/ camp in the summer. We will need a location that all of us can get to and plenty of alcohol.
Who's up for it?
>drinking alcohol while /out/
I'm down. Guy in the previous thread suggested the peaks.

What are you afraid of? Getting lost in a square mile of light forest and being mauled by a rabbit?

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Hey /out/, so my friends and I want to do some camping on an island but we're really not sure where to go. We live in New Hampshire, so anything in Vermont, Maine or Massachusetts works best. Ideally it would be an island that we can Kayak to and isn't owned by some campground or an actual person, but that's not a total deal breaker.

Anyone on /out/ know some decent islands to camp on for a weekend in New England?

So far I've considered Hupper Island, which is pic related and Jewell Island.
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I camped on Grape Island twice.

The harbor islands are very fun, especially if you have a big party.

Comfy beachside fires.
>is a Trump voter
>thinks he's not a "Retard"

Lol'd, my friend. Lol'd.
>Voting for a morally bankrupt, corrupt, gun grabbing witch who has a history of ignoring the law in high office
Retard. I would take an incompetent retard over a corrupt criminal like Hillary.
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Check out Lake George, NY. 300+ islands.
Jackman is God's own land.

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Pic related is the best /out/ boot you will ever have and it is as basic as it gets.

10 inch
Triple/quadrouple stitched
Full leather
Last for a decade of daily heavy use
Waterproof entirely(if you lace them right water won't pour in through the top)
You could run a marathon with theee boots

You can't own a boot better than this. Fact.
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Corcorans perhaps?
Unless its hand stitched any damage causes the entire panel to unravel.

The shiny side of leatget doesn't take well to leather oil and wax either, so long term lufe expectancies are sgort for actual field use
I own a pair! I was attacked by a cougar, THESE BOOTS SAVED MY LIFE!!! I can not recommend them enough. The cougar pined me and my two daughters in a cave, the cougar went to lunge at my youngest, I stuck my booted foot in front to protect her. The cougar clenched down on the triple/quadruple stitched breathable leather and broke a tooth and ran away crying. The saliva didn't even penetrate my sox so I can personally say these r indeed waterproof.

Get these boots they will change and serve ur life
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Redwings are best boot. I work night shift construction and then come home and work on the lawn so I probably wear them 12 hours a day. The orthotic shit they try to sell is a meme though.
did somebody say corcorans

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