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We encourage you to have a look around the catalog first to see what we’re all about before posting your first thread. Topics typically posted here include:
>Outdoor recreational activities (Hiking, trail running, bushwhacking, camping, spelunking, geocaching, orienteering, expeditions, urban exploration, backpacking, etc.)
>Gardening, farming and related activities
>Hunting and fishing, and other activities involving the stalking or taking of game (including bird-watching)
>Outdoor survival, bushcraft, foraging, self-sustenance in nature, train-hopping, hoboism, etc.
>Outdoor destinations and exploration (specific trails, parks, regions, etc.)
>Water-related activities (boats, diving, etc.)
>Outdoor philosophy (conservation, Leave No Trace, protectionism, etc.)
>Outdoor building and living (cabins, huts, treehouses, etc.)
>Outdoor social activities and organizations (meet-ups, Scouts, NOLS, etc.)
>Gear related to any of the above topics

Most topics related to the outdoors are fine. Write properly, behave politely, encourage a respectful community, and most importantly, GO OUTSIDE!!
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Just a friendly reminder that threads about weapons which do not pertain to their use in outdoor activities should be posted on /k/ instead. Thanks.

#213-“Spoons: The Original Meme” Edition

Previous Thread:
>>1200980

Thinking about picking up a new hobby? Want to get a memecaster? Haven't mastered the Palomar knot? Click here!
http://www.pastebin.com/u/fishingandtackle
https://imgur.com/a/1Xw3N

Talk about fishin
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>in
>on

parents own rentals in the vineyard, p-town and wellfleet. I go every year for a few months to manage their properties, fish and to play on my dads boat. my oldest bro lives in marion and fishes the canal spots, the flats and beaches a lot. you might know him if youre local.

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What's topwater lure has worked the best for you anons?
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>>1207929
>soft-bodied frog
>Whopper Plopper
>popper
>spook

All you need right there. Some guys will say buzzbait but everything a buzzbait does the Whopper Plopper does better.
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>>1207932
You forgot ducklings and rats

Does anybody use the Gerber stuff made with the Bear Grylls name? I'm personally not thinking about buying any of it but I hear a lot of negative opinions on a lot of it. Was wondering if anyone had positive experiences
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>>1200813
somehow ended up with one of these and their is honestly nothing wrong with it. idk if it's the best I've ever used but it certainly works well enough
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>you didn't fall for the Gerber meme
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So everything but the blades is usable?
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>>1200010
This is bait
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>>1200783
In surprised by this. Whilst I'm not a good representation of the market I've got one of their packs which I must admit I'm pretty brutal with and it's so far been pretty good considering the price. Admittedly the whole /out/doors market is pretty inflated with the poser premium though.
Good to know though.

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I went out to the lake near where I live and hiked around the woods a bit, thought I'd post some photos for those of you who would enjoy them. Post some pictures of your recent adventures if you have any
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>>1176822
I didn't know they got snow in Australia, how does it try to kill you.
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>>1176871
i'm using a chromebook
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>>1176876
Where is this anon?
>>1176883
Do you remember the shitstorms pics like this caused five or seven years ago. /out/ has come a long way with only two faggots crying.
>>1176982
People don't eat coyote unless that are staving but pigs, dogs and chickens feast on it. Culling predators in actually a human responsibility now that we have removed the more dangerous predators most everywhere.
>>1177027
>If you are man enough to kill it, you should be man enough to eat it, little man.
>>1177027
>If you are man enough to kill it, you should be man enough to eat it, little man.
So you eat every spider, mouse and flying insect you kill? Cause that is what killing coyotes and prairie dogs is for people who have real land.
>>1177737
Write offs don't work that way but nice try.
>>1179588
Whatever you say hitler.
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Picture from the Lake district, UK. January 2016, only nice day of a 4 day hike.

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Last threat reached bump limit and 404'd, so how about a new general birding thread where you can post photos, information, tips, and ask questions.

Pic related, American Kestrels I saw on my last trip.
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>>1207721
After listening to some recording it seems like different populations have slightly different calls. This is what I'm used to hear: https://sverigesradio.se/diverse/appdata/isidor/files/3275/13886.mp3
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>>1195590
I got contacted to do an /out/ job doing bird surveys. Not sure I want it as much as I like birds. If they offer I'll have to think about it. Has anyone done them professionally? Do you really hike 10 miles a day and get covered in poison oak?
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>>1207944
why hike in shorts and short sleeves? I get being comfortable but if thats your job hazard then you should be prepared - or bring tecnu.
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>>1207953
I wouldn't hike in shorts, but those oils get on your clothes and if you don't realize it and touch them it spreads. Happened to my dad before.

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What hats do you wear /out/? I have a baseball cap, but I want something with a full brim because I burn real easily. Would probably be good for rain too and I don't mind looking like a fedora lord when I'm hiking. Please give recommendations and post hats you wear. Pic related is something I was looking at but is a bit pricey. Going to look more at some slouch hats.
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>>1202335
A..Adam?
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>>1207736
Thanks m8. Same as the holster, EP Saddlery.
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>>1207758
Ah, legendary.
I’m torn between picking up an EP 2 mag pouch or sewing a single mag sleeve onto my tankers rig. It’s an IMA, so I don’t care if it comes out a bit ugly
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>>1207763
I like it. Do what you feel my man. I would be hesitant about cutting up leather, but a single mag sleeve on the holster would definitely be a faster/more secure reload reaching over the body versus unclipping a pouch and drawing out a mag from the weak side with the weak arm (imo). I have the ww2 style pouch because I'm a band of brothers fag and its a carry piece. 45ACP is really bad for out purposes, but short of a 12ga it's what I got. To be effective against bears, deer, hogs et cetera I'd really need hard cast lead fired from +P.
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>>1207919
I’m working up my leather working to it, right now I’m just starting doing rawhide repairs and modifications to things I have. Next I’m going to try to make a crude knife sheath. I won’t do the holster mod until I know that it will alt least hold up to wear and time. It’s already a pretty good /out/ holster since it’s compatible with pack hip, shoulder, and chest straps so I want to keep everything off of the belt.
Load wise, look into:
Buffalo Bore Outdoorsman 255 gr hardcast +p my man.

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Not in terms of being happy.I think that is a given if youre working out in nature, but financially this day and age?

pic related I read can lead to a decent income eventually. Anything else?

I want to be free of city life already, its depressing
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You can also become a hunting/fishing guide, 100% innawoods work, usually deep innawoods because what the clients want is the off-road "hidden gems" no one knows about. It's a completely seasonal job, the issue is that the base pay isn't really relevant, the big money comes from tips. I had an uncle who was a fishing guide for corporate bigwigs from Manhattan, they'd tip him thousands of dollars for a one week trip, and so he's pull in over 100k just during the season and live off the savings from the season during the rest of the year. Also when they tip in cash you don't have to report that shit to the IRS and save a fuckload.

And he was in the lower 48, he knew guides up in Alaska who would take their clients so innawoods it would be a 2 hour floatplane/bushlane flight to get to where they wanted to go, all paid for by the client.

The big issue is just that the market is extremely competitive , you need to be a local who knows the area very well, knows the local hidden gem hunting/fishing spots very well, and has a shitton of experience hunting/fishing.

Also becoming a bush pilot in Alaska pays very well and the job market isnt as competitive as in other parts of the country, usually you just need to have a pilot's license and that's it. but they prefer hiring locals, I'm not sure how they'd take to an application from a lower 48 city transplant.
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>>1207378
a lot of people are coming out of college with meme degrees and mountains of debt if anything it's irresponsible. meme degrees outnumber degrees that are actually worth anything these days.
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>>1195449

Stick a file up your butt anon, it might help take off that edge
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Are there any jobs which allow you to work in wilderness areas / national parks but don't require a degree?
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>>1207436
For all listings I've seen they want degrees in biology, geology, chemistry, wildlife, or business. A women's studies degree will get your resume thrown in the trash guaranteed.

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Stealth Camping General /SCG/

Hey /out/,
Do we have any stealth campers here?
>shelter
What dose you're setup look like? I usually use tarp shelters for this scenario as it's easier to adjust it to the site, and weather conditions.
>Fire?
This is probably one of the biggest situational elements for me. A fire hole is pretty easy to set up, but no matter how stealthy you're fire is, it has an unmistakable smell.
>Risk
I don't take too much risk. I have stealth camped on private property before, but never been caught. I'm always prepared for situations going bad quick. I have ways of signaling where I'm at. I'd think that choosing to camp some place you wouldn't be found, and alone, qualifies as a huge leap towards an emergency.
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>>1207830
Lol I'm a land owner and little dicked scaredy boys like you give us a bad name.

Yeah I don't want hobos and shit staying on my land but I'm not such a pansy that I'll kill on site anyone who dares step foot on my property because I'm too much of a reddit-tier social autist to approach them like a man and tell them to gtfo.
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>>1191989

>soylent
>pedal generator

No offense, but have you left the house recently anon?
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you can't "own" property lol
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>>1191984
kek. that minecraft lookin pic always gets me
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>>1207551
I looked at the Ionosphere and it's pretty good. The way it opens is a problem in rain though, and having to get in feet-first is inconvenient. I'd consider the Wild Country Zephyros 1. Much better in the rain, side entry, and weighs the same as the Ionosphere. Cheaper, too.

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>good reviews on amazon
>outdoorgearreview shills for it
>tents around the same price are 2 pounds heavier
>108$

is this THE cheap tent to buy?
whats the catch ?

https://www.amazon.com/Sports-Mountain-Backpacking-Footprint-Rainfly/dp/B00JSPB8CM/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

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ITT post before and after pics of cairns you found and knocked the fuck over. Hate these rock stacks!
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>>1206594
that's a shelter fit for any winter
some assembly required of course
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>>1205675
I'm from NV and I've met basque farmers here. Welcome to America, land of immigrants.
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>>1206587
stacking rocks is moderate autism

getting upset over and having a pathological need to kick them over is intensely autistic.

>life with deeply cairn fixated child
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4PTf7LgsIE
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>>1207406
LOL

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Old thread: >>1186527

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>>1207912
for reference this is it
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>>1207913
Are those random rock piles scattered about the place?
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>>1207925
That's not my place i took that picture from wikipedia, i can't take a picture now since it's dark outside.
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>>1207931
Depending on what you want to do with the land could you cut them down as close to ground level as possible, burn the bush and then use a slasher to keep them from growing back?
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>>1207934
Nah i want to spread an orchard in that direction and maybe some farmland too but was hoping i could graft on some more lucrative tree breed on so i'd save me the trouble of rooting all of them out.

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I need a new sleep mat, I have been looking at this... thermarest neoair sv
Why do you use?
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Pic related.
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>>1207443
I've used those a lot as a kid but now a bad nights sleep can fuck up my back for a few days and I've got a job so I can afford something a bit more comfortable
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>>1207467
I just use them because they're light, punctureproof and don't absorb moisture. For longer trips I might think about something more comfortable but really choosing a suitable place to put the mat on the ground is important. Or utilizing local materials like leaves for extra cushioning. If you really need to.

I like to carry as little as possible because I'm a manlet but also because it's really hot here.

TLDR: Surprise, price is not my primary concern.

Do you want to provide any background on what kind of terrain and environment you will be in?
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Klymit Static V (Insulated)
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I use this. Has some open-cell foam and fills with air a bit. It's not very thick, at 2.5cm, so it's not super comfortable or super warm (2.4 r-value) but I'm really not a fan of thick full-air matresses.

A friend has the z-lite which is accordion style closed cell foam. He seems to like it a lot.

Personally, I don't like carrying a huge mat though, so the small volume of an air filled one is key for me. However, I had a Big Agnes Air Core that ended up leaking all over the place and I'd wake up on the ground.

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Does /out/ like caves?
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holy shit this all makes my balls tingle in a bad way
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>>1206222
>>1206226
Do either of you two mongoloids know the difference between a cave and a cavern?
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>>1206256
Yes, a cavern has two extra letters at the end.
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>>1206256
Both can have squeezy bits you imbecile
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>>1204525

>5 can holes

What does this mean plz?

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Hello yall! Hope you have your fly rods and waders ready! I just wanted to ask all of the wonderful people here if they know of any good spots in the Eastern Appalachian states to do some good trout fishing. Im talking states from Tennessee to virginia etc. Soon the streams will be stocked full of gorgeous, succulent, meaty, mouth watering, 14 inch long, slippery rainbow and golden trout. No better time spent than fishing in a stream, far away from big cities and hordes of shit skins! Thanks in advance for the location suggestions!
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>>1207847
maybe someday, that dam is like 2 hours away.
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>>1207761
Don’t forget he also equated buying trout to eat to fishing them
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>Trout season

Easterners are so silly sometimes.
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>>1207698
Won’t work. If you stock fish in a lake there they will survive for a bit but once it gets too hot they will die. They need clean cold water. Places that get stocked are purely put and take fish. Vast majority of the stocked fish are taken days after they dump them in.

Where I live it’s a combination of stocked and wild trout. Difference being the stocked ones if not caught will survive since they are being put in water where wild populations exist.

My favorite way to trout fish is looking for small creeks in the middle of nowhere that arnt stocked and seeing if I can find wild populations.

Brook trout shore lunches are comfy
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>not still ice fishing

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Lets get another /out/ recording thread going.

There were some great /out/ rec threads a while ago, and I'm getting into outdoors recording myself. Planning to make a parabolic microphone to connect to my Olympus WS-853 recorder I got for Christmas.

Any Anons wanna contribute? I would love advice for complete beginners.
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>>1206732
The built-in mics are pretty good, and the preamps are pretty garbage. I actually bought Triton Fetheads to use with it, which was a pain in the dick. Basically they're in-line phantom powered preamps that sound ~amazing~.

Problem is, the ones I got don't pass the phantom through them, which means I needed a second phantom-power supply to deliver the +48v to the mics. In the end it worked and totally changed the game for me - I was suddenly getting stunning recordings - but the expense and extra gear to setup in the field was a real hardship. It was worth it though. The Fetheads basically provide all the gain and I was able to keep the DR-40's preamps effectively off.

Also I should point out that Triton makes a Fethead that passes phantom power so they can be used with condenser mics, but I wanted the classic ones ones that block the phantom, and are safer to use with dynamic and ribbon mics, so they'd be useful for more applications and I'd get more value out of them.

Now I have a DR-70D and the preamps are fantastic, nice and flat and quiet and lots of gain.

Pic is the Fetheads in the DR-40 and the whole rig I used to use with all those annoying bits and pieces.
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>>1206735
Yeah I got a Fethead last year, on your recommendation actually. Love it for guitar on a dynamic, my soundcard is real hissy with high gain.
Actually recorded a lil experiment with it today, put together a shitty wind harp with junk I had lying around. Mic is a generic guitar humbucker. Since there was almost no wind at all I went into gain overdrive mode... Pickup goes to Fethead, then DR-40 with mic gain on 80. Filtered and normalized in RX but the volume is still fairly low - those basses are powerful as hell, I still wanted to keep some.
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>>1206940
The overall extreme gain was high enough to hear the vibrations induced by the ambulance siren down the street... Crazy. https://vocaroo.com/i/s1o67Y0FA5eN
It might rain tomorrow, that should be lots of fun.
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>>1206940
>>1207026
Mmmm lovely sound! You should totes attach some little paper wind catches to the strings to see what that does. Also the regular Fethead won't be quite the right impedance for a guitar pickup so it won't have quite the high frequency response it could have with an insturment preamp (pic related). Not that it matters much, it sounds really cool the way it is!
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>>1207166
thx mjc. I don't think the impedance mismatch is that big a deal, the pup has plenty of low end and is pretty garbo above 5k, especially considering the wire isn't under that much tension and doesn't vibrate higher (apart from really faint, really high-order harmonics.) Plus the recorder picks up the whine from the asymmetrical cable just fine, right up to 18.3k, so it's okay like that imo.
Only a light drizzle today... In an hour a single drop hit the strings. Shame. Regardless, I like the results, maybe I'll take it to a windy place in the country... I think I'll build a larger one, with less ductile wire so it can be under more tension and vibrate easier. This one isn't too sensitive. I think putting anything on the strings will dampen them a lot.



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