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We encourage you to have a look around the catalog first to see what we’re all about before posting your first thread. Topics typically posted here include:
>Outdoor recreational activities (Hiking, trail running, bushwhacking, camping, spelunking, geocaching, orienteering, expeditions, urban exploration, backpacking, etc.)
>Gardening, farming and related activities
>Hunting and fishing, and other activities involving the stalking or taking of game (including bird-watching)
>Outdoor survival, bushcraft, foraging, self-sustenance in nature, train-hopping, hoboism, etc.
>Outdoor destinations and exploration (specific trails, parks, regions, etc.)
>Water-related activities (boats, diving, etc.)
>Outdoor philosophy (conservation, Leave No Trace, protectionism, etc.)
>Outdoor building and living (cabins, huts, treehouses, etc.)
>Outdoor social activities and organizations (meet-ups, Scouts, NOLS, etc.)
>Gear related to any of the above topics

Most topics related to the outdoors are fine. Write properly, behave politely, encourage a respectful community, and most importantly, GO OUTSIDE!!
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Just a friendly reminder that threads about weapons which do not pertain to their use in outdoor activities should be posted on /k/ instead. Thanks.

these things cost like $10 a pop and at 500 calories a pouch you need two of them to feel full after a long days hike
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>>1342000

>tfw dextro options are nearly twice as expensive and Grum (a krogan) requires ten pigs for sustenance
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>>1341998
How much of an idiot would you have to be to buy these? You can get the exact same thing at the supermarket for a tenth of the price.
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They're 1.5-2 servings each. I can never finish my half and let the gf munch on the rest.
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>>1343616
>You can get the exact same thing at the supermarket for a tenth of the price.
examples?
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>>1344045
Pic related costs about £1, is light and tasty as shit and has more calories than OP’s. But there are hundreds of own-brand equivalents with pasta, rice, noodles, couscous etc. for the same price.

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My retarded brother thinks it will be a good idea to hike part of the AP barefoot. Please tell this trailnamer to buy some good boots.
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>>1342106
I deliver newspapers and Im a stay home dad. Also I grow a lot of food in the summer. Its a pretty sweet lifestyle if you can swing it.
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>>1342106
im a stay at home prostitute hired by ikea, im on my knees sucking cock most of the time so i dont really need shoes, i wear kneepads tho
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>>1342369
How is Sweden this time of year?
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>>1339427
Why does he even want to do this? I can't think of any benefits, unless he actually wants to get injured and quit early.
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>>1339692
>not circumsized
He'd be fine then.

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>>1333523
Omg I'm really enjoying nature right now, it's so nice and beautiful. I'm really getting in touch with my wild side.Hey that's my favorite song, turn it up!


>>1334584
So what you're telling me is you didn't tell them what all this would entail and they didn't prepare. Sounds like an overall unenjoyable trip to me and I would think your goal is just to show off and make your friends look stupid. Sounds like my friend who said he wanted to go hiking once, just chose some random place he heard about, then we got there and he realized he chose poorly as he was used to nice largely flat city trails and not a fucking mountain lol.
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>>1339231
im not trying to argue im just curious how this works since there are inflatable sleeping pads. granted they're only a few inches thick as opposed to 12-15." so what creates the r value in the self-inflating pads with no foam in them?
>tfw when i dont know this despite majoring in physics
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>>1336146
>go riding in the mountains
>holier than thou narration about finding themselves and being with nature
How is that any different from noisy, fuming two stroke dirtbike yokels?
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>>1344233
https://thermarestblog.com/r-value-meaning/
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>>1334090
Meme'd.

>It’s actually raining in Michigan right now!
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>>1344186
I hope it's raining up north I got a couple acres of buckwheat and dikon radish that I want to grow big for my wildlife buddies to snack on.
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>>1344199
>rain means moisture
>moisture means more fungi
Fuck yeah
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>>1344186
jesus I cant wait for rain in my area or basically any kind of weather besides blistering sun
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Wanting to go for a hike Friday morning for the day somewhere. I'm from Livonia. Where should I go OP?
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>>1344219

I’m going biking w/ my mom on Makinac Island this Saturday. It’s fucking nice there.

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I live in southwest Virginia and heard the strangest noise that I haven't been able to place to an animal. One night I heard a group of some animals moving through my neighborhood going "whoop whoop whoop" non stop. I've listened to recordings of foxes, Bobcats, owls, and just about everything else but nothing seems to make this sound. It literally sounded like they were going "whoop whoop"
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>>1344267
Damn fine animals you have. Cats are always good to have
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Hopoes make that sound, dont know if they make it at night though
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>>1344256
That's called a juggalo
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Sounds like it's the police
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>>1344256
Coyotes, it's a pretty intense experience to here them going full hype.

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>>1343779
Why are you not storing their seeds for gene splicing?
Eugenics is much less messy when you do it in a trageted rather than random way. Just take the genes you want and splice them until you get der ubertree.
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>tfw ordered more pepper varieties

I don't even have enough room to grow them all.
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>>1344007
Anything goes in container culture, no limits as to location. Mojave desert here (8b, BSk) and the only plant I cannot get to beyond a year from seed is avocado. My rec. would be herbs. Simple, saves $$$ and who doesn't like fresh herbs?
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>>1344064
WTFis a muskmelon?
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>>1344373
It's a species of melon which includes a ton of varieties like canteloupe and honeydew melon.
It's kind of like how cabbage, broccoli, kale, Brussels sprouts, etc. are actually all the same species.

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Critique this
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>>1344085
Thanks!
>>1344092
Why add more weight? Plus I already have the cuben from a project for a friend
It’s not climbing rope, it’s the dyneema ridgeline
Net bags are actually pretty fuggin great, very expandable and packable, plus it’s just to put food in in plastic bags so will constantly be shrinking. Errything else goes in pockets or my belt
>bpa free plastic
Unfortunately they just swap phthalates used to put that reassuring label on. Metal or organic is the way
>>1344148
Lighter, smaller. Takes a min to lay them out in the sun, then just add a few drops to revivify
>>1344137
:) nah
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>>1344081
>drops serious cashola on DCF product
>packs a wool fucking cape and a leather water bladder
>doesn't pack a sleeping bag and doesn't list a back pack
this list is all over the place.
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>>1344359
https://www.extremtextil.de/en/dyneema-sup-sup-composite-fabric-formerly-cuben-fiber-ct5k18-50g-sqm.html
€40 a square metre, less than 2 metres for a micro tarp that works with the sol bivy, I’d say €80 isn’t extreme. The blanket is the top layer and the sleeping bag, errything else goes on my body or a small pocket or pouch. I’m trying to go packless except for food
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>>1344369
>I’m trying to go packless except for food
>packless
>but with a pack
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>>1344372
So when I don’t have food I’m packless, wise guy

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Is camping gear is the biggest waste of money imaginable. Any time I've met a legit old woodsman their gear is usually more from a hardware store than a camping store totalling no more than $200. Its not the lightest either, but it looks used to hell. The reality is most people will never be outdoors in rough enough conditions to justify high end equipment. Have you found your setup getting lower end the more experienced you get? I know mine has, and I feel dumb for wasting so much money.
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>>1342951cont'd from earlier
What I meant was that maybe your old woodsmen are hunting and car camping? Not necessarily a need for water filters and special socks with that kind of stuff.


Also advertising makes people buy a lot of shit. Especially in the outdoor industry. Problem is that nicer stuff comes out every few years.
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>>1342535
I love the thing. One of the best purchases I've ever made. I got the older model and I can just keep stacking stuff in between the gap between the bladder lid and the cover over it. Also mine has molle so I can strap even more shit to it if I needed to.
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>>1342951
>>1343036
Pretty much this.

When car camping and canoeing for example I have seen people will all kinds of old heavy beat up shit.

Anywhere in the backcountry I have been that is at least a day from a trailhead everyone carries modern light stuff.

Spend money where it matters. If you are carrying all of your shit on your back for days at a time, buy light. If you don't need to buy light, don't.
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>>1344161
Id rather grow some larger testicles than to spend an extra $20-$200 to save a oz here and there on items.
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>>1344161
Light weight dosnt have to mean heavy or expensive. The setups I'm talking about are minimal and fit in a day bag. For instance one old hippie looking guy I met had a piece of tyvek for a ground covering a cheap sleeping pad he cut to exactly the size of his chest, a cheap sleeping bag that he took all the filling out of and replaced it with down, a trash bag to cover his lower half and a small tarp to cover his upper half.

What do you carry in your first aid kit?
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>>1343807
Those are more akin to first aid.
But if the wound is deep enough it will create a pocket of infection that would lead to septic shock quicly. (pic related)

Its still 1000x better than sewing a wound with no expertise on the subject, but by no means its a substitue for stitches in most cases.

Just a first aid treatment till a professional can actually give you proper stitches that vary depending on the lenght, depth and shape of the wound in question.
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>>1343802
Water?... then use alcohol swab then cover
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>>1343878
You shouldnt use alcohol on an open wound...

Water + Soap > Disinfectant > Gauze > Bandage
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>>1342988
Useful thread, thanks.

I'm working to construct my kits actually.

First aid and a misc adventure kit.
Both are fairly basic right now
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>>1343883
What’s a good disinfectant for wounds then? I don’t want to be carrying around bottles. Also, what are alcohol pads used for then? Just sterilizing equipment?

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How well can I legally fortify/booby trap my private property?

I've been wondering this for the longest time. I own a 40 acre stretch of woods with some big ass fields here and there, a creek running through it and some pretty good dirt bike trails for me and my kids. So you can figure I get a good bit of trespassers coming through here.

But what happens if some fag from the water treatment planet nearby, or a game warden, or someone else gets themselves killed? Am I considered a murderer?

What's my limit here?
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>>1344259
You can only kill trespassers in self defense. If your shoot a trespasser who isn't threatening your life, you are looking at a murder charge. Stand your ground and castle doctrine are meant for home invaders. If they die in your boobytrap while you're not even close, you're looking at a life sentence for premeditated murder.
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>>1344259
Are they leaving trash? Are they poaching? Are they making fire? Are they in any other way damaging your property? If no, stop being a faggot. The US really needs a "right to roam" amendment.
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>>1344332

That is a terrible idea because that would lead to squatters coming and going as they please and a host of other problems. People just need to stay the fuck out of other people's property. There are plenty of public hiking trails and parks people can go to so why do they need to wander onto some random ass property?

Also OP I would do the 12 gauge trap that this anon said >>1344301. It basically makes a loud bang and usually scares people off or at least alerts you. It is not harmful just makes a loud noise so you can't get sued or anything.
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>>1344339
>That is a terrible idea because that would lead to squatters coming and going as they please and a host of other problems
If that happens, you have a police to take care of that situation, but in a healthy society, that problem is minor to start with
>healthy society
>Burgerland
Oh, yeah, I see.
OP, how about some landmines, then? You can probably get them at the sporting goods section in wallymart.
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>>1344298
This. I have random peeps walking all over my land but that’s because Im fenceless. My fault in the end because hey, why the fuck not if there’s no fence to stop ya.

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Patch pastebin: https://pastebin.com/cXZTGafD
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>>1343515
What about “nose down and call it a night”? Direct quote at least
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>>1343734

Just kidding, they arrived today and are now up in the store!
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>>1344039
Just purchased. Thanks my man
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>>1344039
Doing God's work
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>>1344102
>>1344212

thanks anons

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>head out fishing saturday morning on my kayak
>paddle out to a sandbar that has a nice dropoff and weeds around the edges
>9am rolls around
>entire sandbar covered with assholes anchored boats while they sit around in tubes drinking and blaring country music

why do boomers do this?
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>>1341387
This is why God invented limpet mines.
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>>1344131
It's all boomers, xoomers and younger rednecks though. Especially the rednecks are the exact same retards that would park a truck in a mud pit and blast country if they hadn't financed a boat.
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>>1341387
Jesus.
Fucking.
Christ.
If I see one more FUCKING person post this god damn retarded ads phrase, boomer, I will fucking lose it. Stop with the summertime bullshit catchphrase nobody is fucking using except idiots, it's fucking annoying, you little shits. This is the same exact thing from a couple of years ago when fucking cuck was just being flung left and right and used so incorrectly, it generated a fury in me that was rivaled by no others. I swear to god, you people want to make me shove rusty nails through my god damn fingernails lengthwise, than hear one more person fucking say boomer
Fuck sakes, I hate this place...
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>>1344240

where do these people get the money for all of these vehicles? It always seems like the have a large lifted truck to tow their boat and whatever thing they can think of. Not judging just legitimately curious as to how they can afford all of this shit. Do they just take loans and are in constant debt?

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I'm totally new to fishing, looking for some general advice on what kit to get. I'm interested in shore fishing and river/loch fishing, I'm based in Scotland.

So far I have a 240cm rod with reel (casting weight 40-60g), plenty of 10lb line, three trout spinners, three sea trout spinners, a tobeye, a wedge, two sets of mackerel feathers (three feathers on each), two 40g lead weights and a few swivels.

I've struggled to get much distance when casting the trout spinners, I've had some success fishing from piers for mackerel using the feathers and two 40g weights.

I already own a multitool and a gutting knife.

What would you advice I get/use for trout (river and lochs)? Should I buy a whipper rod, if so length? I should add that telescopic suits me perfectly, I like packing stuff away in my car and travel a lot/walk in the hills lots.
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>casting weight 40-60g

Bit much, no?

There's tons of trout fisheries/lochs all over the country, and salmon fishing up north.
Where about are you?
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>>1343956
Gear varies a lot depending on where you are fishing and what kind of fish you want to catch.

240cm rod is overkill, a 160cm/180cm rod with a 1000 / 4000 reel size is more than enough for any kind of fishing bar fishing at the sea from shore in beaches and piers and when fishing for big catches while on a boat in the ocean.
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>>1343981
Based in Alness and Edinburgh
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>>1343984
Thanks, I thought this might be the case...something whippier and lighter.

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I miss the winter shelters thread. pic related is my upper body setup.
m10 anorak
nano air light
nano air hybred jacket
Nike dryfit as base layer
some combination of buff/s baseball cap and or beenie and for multiday I'll add a down or synthetic parka depending on climate and forecast
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>>1343215
>if you used any active insualtion regualy you would know that it wears out pretty fast

I'm curious about this. I used to primarily use fleece as a midlayer, and a decent fleece would easily last me 5 years of regular (seasonal) use, but I've been using an atom lt and a micro puff pretty heavily in the last two years without any real signs of them wearing out yet. The atom lt was on sale like 60% off and I like it so much I bought two.
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>>1344122
>the absolute state of appalachian winter hikers
What a faggot in canada we just throw on jeans and a hoodie and sometimes a windbreaker. When it's cold enough the snow wont melt and wet your clothes
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>>1343089
>it’s a comfy clothing thread
Nice
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>>1344196
Guess what bitch the AT is wet



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