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Did any of you faggots even get /out/ today? central Texas here, pic related from maybe an hour ago.
>>851321some of the terrainthis is in Norway
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>>851287cool
>>851321>>851324>>851326going to norway next week, pls dont snipe me
>>851345it's hunting season, so there are many armed people in the woods this time of year loljust try your best to not look like a deer
Sorry I didn't make a new updated thread when the last one reached bump limit - was out in the wilderness. With all the input from the last thread the map is approaching perfection, but I feel like it can still use small adjustments, now that .5s are being used. The rules for those who weren't in the last thread -This is not a contest for who lives in the best state, this is the best states to go /out/ in. That does not mean city parks, small state parks, fee campgrounds, or private land. It doesn't mean whether you like the politics or locals there unless those people are hermits living in the woods. The best states to go /out/ in are not necessarily great places to live, often it's the opposite-Do not argue to change the score of your home state. For some reason people are overly emotional and lack the perspective or experience outside of it to have a valuable opinion on it. If you state is rated unfairly other posters who have been there will be able to make an argument for it to be changed, while you do the same for their state. -Share your thoughts on states you have actually gone into the outdoors in. Good posts will have pictures (yours, not stock images), and a concise write up The general criteria- Amount of public land Access (this doesn't mean being close to a city necessarily, it means you can legally and physically explore and dispersed camp deep into the area)Geographic diversity Recreational diversity Obviously there is no way to put an exact number on each of these things, nor are they all that's important, just a simple guideline.
>>835080"Conterminous"I don't even...what? Nigger are you high?
>>834523>Michigan>4Not gonna lie, Michigan is far from an 8, but it is way more than 4.LP: Yeah, its pretty shit. Only few parks and campgrounds. Not many forests anymore because of modernization.UP: I would totally put it at 6-7 range. Beautiful forests, shorelines, rivers, and even mountains. Plus, Isle Royal. TL;DR: Michigan isn't the best, but it is atleast a 6.
>>842789So much this.I even know where there is an abandoned campground from the 60s.Dilapidated awnings and picnic tables and its free and deserted.Awesome flyfishing nearby.New Mexico is full of places like this.There are places I can catch huge trout all day long and hike for miles along the stream without ever seeing signs of another human.
>>848972>my state has probably the second most land area in injun reservationsFun fact, we also have the poorest county in the entire Union. Care to guess how these two facts are related? I'll give you a hint. I chamber a round every time I have to drive into the nice Native American reservations.
New Mexico is fucking shit
#80-"September!" EditionPrevious Thread:>>848701Is everybody ready for cooler water and spinnerbaits instead of skeeters and Texas rigs? I can't wait but lolsouthflorida so I still have a couple months until the largemouth get moving good. February is by far the best time for bass.I'm probably moving soon too which means I will lose out on fishing time. I'm probably going to be even closer to saltwater, which means further from freshwater. Haven't decided on a house yet but a lot of them are right next to the Intercoastal.Pastebin and Imgur. Thinkin about picking up a new hobby? Want to get a memecaster? Haven't mastered the Palomar knot? Click here!http://www.pastebin.com/u/fishingandtacklehttps://imgur.com/a/1Xw3NTalk about fishin
>>851319There are parts of the river I fish where you can't let ANYTHING touch the bottom or you're fucked. In some areas, it is more sandy and you can get away with it, just have to learn which is which.
Why do people recommend blue jigs? I ain't never seen a blue crayfish
>>851337Git rekt fggt
>>851337I've never seen a firetiger fish or a pink fish either. Sometimes a certain color or pattern will attract fish more than a natural look.
>>851337There are actually a handful of dark blue/purple crayfish. Plus a lot of predator fish seem to respond to movement and contrasting colors rather than an ultra realistic bait. The dark blues, purples, and blacks really stand out agains brown and green mud and vegetation.
I'm about to get into back-packing, and of course, I need a back-packing backpack. One of my biggest questions regarding backpacks is if I should get a pack with an internal or external frame. What are the advantages and disadvantages of each?
I am a big fan of external frame backpacks, but there are some pros and cons. An external is wonderful at distributing weight and makes carrying things a breeze. You can strap loads of shit onto it so you can easily become a human pack mule. The frame also keeps the pack away from your back so they breathe very well, which is a huge plus for someone like me who sweats a lot. They also have the "classic" look if that's your thing. They also aren't super popular nowadays compared to internals, so you can usually get them extremely cheap and in good condition if you go the used route. I have a Kelty Yukon that was in pretty much new condition that I bought for $30 on ebay. However, they are not perfect, of course. They are very bulky, so they take up a lot of space, which is not ideal if you are going through areas with lots of low hanging branches or tight spaces. They also tend to load a little top heavy unless you are very careful with how you load things in the pack, so they are not very ideal for rock climbing or overly craggy terrain, as they can fuck with your balance a bit in those situations. But if you want to carry a lot of gear, they are wonderful, So I think they are nice if you are a hunter or if you are a backpacker/hiker (if you aren't part of the ultralight crowd).
>>851273Internal frame is lighter and more compact but if it breaks (which it can easily) you need to buy a complete new pack External are a little heavier and bulkier but are cheap and easy to fix and more durable In terms of how much you can carry internal frames especially expedition packs can carry more than you'll need, but with external frames you can strap a lot more to the outside of your pack making it more accessable
>>851283That first sentence isn't true, a lot of internal frame packs can be repaired by either the manufacturer or a gear shop. If the frame breaks most manufacturers will send you a new one.Externals are easier to repair DIY style, but to say you can't fix an internal pack is inaccurate.
ITT: things normies do
>>851241>Hike on trails >Camp in campsites >say they enjoy "adventures" >get disgusted by dip, blowing snot, pissing/shitting where you please, shooting/catching/cleaning animals >Invite people /out/ they dont trust with their lives >Pack wood in to roast hebrew national on a metal firepit >Bring enough food to the point where it takes a basket >Bring enough comforts that camping is just essentially living the same life but in a tent >Buy $800 pants and jackets with swedish names instead of jeans, milsurp, and leather clothes >Camp in a tent when its not raining >Pay attention to regulations and go where theyre supposed to >smalltalk while walking >do small doses of psychedelics in groups and fuck around instead of dropping 7.5pt shrooms alone in the middle of the woods. >prefer being around people to being alone Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>851241Post gay shit like this on the internet
>>851276Any more of these?
>>851318If I see a fucked animal I just bash it with a rock. Its fucking stupid to waste a bunch of time and money on a bird. It takes me 5 seconds to put it out of its misery, versus wasting a shitload of time on it before setting it free and letting it get fucked up again. Normies like to pretend theyre altruistic as hell, but its all self serving in the end.
>>851241the dogshit tree is a common occurance in the UK. Soon one will sprout on the grounds of a stately home and we will have a Grade1 Listed dogshit tree
Apologies if this seems like an /o/ question, but all the "truck guys" I've asked this to are either clueless or give extremely stupid advice. I figure the fellow rural posters here might have some actual experience.I live in a very out-of-the-way area. As summer winds down and fall approaches, I've been seeing between 4 and 7 deer on or beside the road per DAY - sometimes I have to honk at them to get them out of where I park. I also see moose with some frequency, and even bighorn sheep with lesser frequency.I have only been living here for about half a year, but while I love it, it's making me increasingly nervous. The speed limits around here are typically 70 miles an hour, and if they weren't, you'd never get anywhere. Simply driving slow everywhere isn't a realistic option - but I worry that it's just a matter of time before I catch a deer in my headlights at night (I have to drive around at night for work).Are there any deer/grill guards that actually WORK? So many are flashy trash for 19 year olds that don't actually work. I've had mechanics tell me I'm better off without one, even ones secured at 4 points on the body. Is there a guard out there that will stop body damage at, say, 60 mph if you hit a deer? I expect some body damage if I hit a moose, those things are fucking huge.If not, anything else I can do? Install a loudspeaker on the top of my truck and loop sounds of lions roaring?
>>850064>>850332>>851104If you're driving through Aussie and see a roo in your high beams, dip your lights.The high beam blinds them and they can't see an escape route.Dipped lights let them see where they're going (like they do with and on coming car) and they get out of the way.
Hey OP, I might have the solution.Have you ever seen those pranks on youtube where people connect some horns under their car to a compressor and scare the shit out of people? I'll give you a link so you can see what I mean.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icnRMW6P9ncThe point is, If you install one of these onto your truck, it could possibly be loud enough to scare any animals away if they are in your line of sight or if they are trying to charge your car (moose).
>>850012>I have only been living here for about half a yearFuck off; we're full.
Sell you truck, buy a Camaro! Took Bambi out with my 89 IROC-Z Camaro. Was going 60, but probably hit at 45-50. Luckily he went under. Luckily the only damage was minor scratches and blood splatter. I realize how lucky I was. Car could have been totaled.
Doing some testing, evaluation and design of multitools for a university engineering project. I made a survey to get some feedback on the subject. I would appreciate any responses. Otherwise feel free to post your opinions on how you think they could be improved or any issues you have with them. surveymonkey code /r/Z5MPMDV
>>828673Gerber sliders (currently favor a Multi-Plier 400)or an SAK Huntsman and small Vice Grips
>>850107i use tungsten tipped chisels for stone carving
>>845863you ARE the guy from the other thread!
>>829496Reminds me of a nascar race I went to.A couple of idiots were tailgating and trying to snip a wire with a fillet knife and brute force tug-o-war. I screamed at them to stop and flipped out my Gerber and snipped it for them. I like to think I saved a guy from stabbing himself in the face.
>>850417You just prevented the gene pool from cleaning itself
Any unorthodox tips?
>>851135>>851146softfeet pussies>>851129I try to avoid shoes as much as possible when hiking. Only wear them when it's cold.
>>851163Only animals, rednecks and children walk around forest and mountains barefooted.Youre not manly, rugged or open minded, youre just plain autistic and I wouldnt be suprised if most of the people you pass on the trail are afraid to look you in the eyes.
>>840429t. Lieutenant Dan
>>850942It also works the other way too, dude. If you've ever had to wear boots that are a little bit loose it gets painful as fuck going downhill if you haven't got straight-cut nails
>>850786Hand sanitiser also works really well as a fire starter, as do Doritos.
Does /out/ put patches on their backpacks?
any idea of how to make one whit the flag of New England on it
>>850977gotta be more specific about which design
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>>850985>/k/>ArmyOf course he's a retard
>>850217What's your point, genius?
So I found this bird in the road a few hours back. I was certain, had he stayed there, he would get dead. Originally I was riding my bike, and got close to him thinking he was a pine cone or something. Turns out he was a bird of course. So I looked at him to see what his deal was. As far as I can make out, he can move and chirp, but he doesn't move far, or well, and has a broken wing. Mind you, this is all assumption from a guy that knows shit all about birds.He keeps staring up at this tree and chirping, and that's just it. I tried slicing open a water bottle to the bottom so he had a small water dish, but he refuses to drink from it, and seems afraid of me. I've come back to check on him a few times. I picked him up and moved him off the road, about 5 feet from the road into the grass behind my neighbor's outer fence. I feel like he's just going to die no matter what, and probably not well. It makes me feel shitty and somehow responsible for some reason. What should I do?
>>850904>Worse comes to worse, just curb stomp it.i have found a baby bird like that too once.i felt sorry for it. so i tried to save it. i put it in a cage and tried to give it water and food. but it got real ill. apparently you can't feed birds that young with live mealworms because they don't know how to kill them. it ate them voraciously at first then later refused and looked real sick. the horroistic mental image of the worms with their hard claws and mandibles wrecking havoc in the bally and chewing it up from the inside was a bit too much.i wanted to be gentle and quick. so i tried to break it's neck by twisting it around but it was surprisingly flexible then i tried to crush the spine but even tho it popped the bird didn't die it just looked even more miserable. i felt kinda sick betraying a small and vulnerable things trust like that so i ended up putting it on the floor and stomping on it's head crushing it flat. then it stopped moving.man i'm not touching these things again.
>>851157Jeez all you had to do was puree the worms and baby would have been fine.Smash it up with a fork....
It's not injured or in distress. It either fell out of the nest by accident or it fell out while learning how to fly. The mom is most likely near by watching it. Just put it near its tree and leave it alone. >>850851I now just saw this and wanted to tell you you're an absolute idiot. It didn't need to die. You should've just left it alone. My parents breed birds and I've raised plenty. You would've been making a mistake raising it yourself and you sure as hell fucked up by killing it. To all of you saying just raise the bird, you probably don't know how much time/ supervision/ care is involved.
>>850814When I was a kid my friends and I would shoot 20ish rabbits in one night and cut them open and pile them up at the beginning of the trailhead to freak out normies. Dont be a bitch dude
>>851329>Dont be a bitchThis.I have a few pellet guns tucked away in my closet. My mom always hated them but would always give in and let me get them when I promised they were just for target practice.One day when I was probably like 14, we had a nest of baby bunners in the backyard and there were a couple big crows sitting in the tree right above it eyeing them. My mom didn't want the bunners to get eaten, so she told me to go "scare" the crows away. One shot and I drop a big ass crow out of a tree probably 30' up and she freaked the fuck out but I could tell she was secretly happy I took out the crow.
The general rule for how much water you'll need for walking in the desert = 3ltrs per day per person per man per degree over 25°Celcius per km if walking
>>850808Yeah inanimate objects are so scarry
>>850907haha murica dude
Good bants.I drank 8-12 litres a day when working in 40C weather in Northern Australia. Usual work day involved hiking 18km with about 12kg of geophysics equipment. Ate a salt rich diet so didn't bother with electrolyte drinks. Would urinate maybe three or four times a day, usually straw coloured so wasn't dehydrated. Had regular access to a water tank on a vehicle throughout the day. Without this the work would have been impossible. Pic related, project vehicles after camp pack up.
>>850808This one time a mosin broke into my house and shot my kids Never again
>>851307Fucking hell those ruskies. >be shooting at a range >RO calls cold range>everyone unloads and makes their guns clear>AK at the end of the benches starts acting funny>I watch in slow motion as it loads itself and begins shooting the customers at the range>I manage to run awayGuns not even once.
What does the life of a US park ranger involve? What are the requirements for the job? Can one do it part time/seasonally?
>>850958Butthurt citizen detected. I'm going to have to fine you because your permit doesn't allow you to be that anally devastated at once
>>851003That doesn't make any sense. You don't service forests. You aren't ready to be a park ranger. I doubt you even know the rule of 3s
>>851090I know the 4 S's from that Rolling Stones song.
>>851083Interpretation as in? What does natural resources involve? I was thinking something like maintaining trails, keeping an inventory of wildlife/plant life and perhaps help with some research on that front, finding alternative trails etc Not interested in admin and law enforcement.
>>851253Interpretation are the people who walk people around the park telling them about different areas, history of the park, the wildlife, answer questions at the visitor center, etc. It can involve different things depending on the park, for example at the Everglades, there are interpretation rangers that take people on kayaking trips.Natural Resources are the people who take care of and document the fish, wildlife, plants, archaeological sites, soil, geology, etc of the park. You could be trapping and tracking animals, doing habitat restoration, fighting invasive weeds, documenting arch sites, etc.For trails, that is generally split between maintenance and natural resources I believe in smaller parks. Larger parks probably have dedicated trails rangers.Also, depending on the park, there can also be specialized rangers. One of the parks I worked at had specialties for climbing rangers. Some other parks have guide rangers that do mountaineering and/or white water rafting trips, back country rangers who patrol the trails on foot or horseback, and search and rescue. At smaller parks, many rangers get the chance to do a wide range of things. For instance, I climbed and was on the SAR team, did trail work, worked in fees during our busiest time of the year, caught and tracked bats, did some archaeology, and led a few interpretive walks, even though my main job was invasive weed control.
What are your favorite shoes/boots for /out/ing? Post pics if you have them
I just got some shoes out of the closet, haven't worn them in maybe over a year.Have you guys ever had footwear fail on you because you weren't wearing it regularly? Cracking, falling apart etc.
>>850582It's most likely polyurethane hydrolysis, happened to a pair of LOWAs after around 12 years of very irregular use during their last ~4 yearsFrom what I've read wearing less actually makes the problem worsehttp://www.phlmetropolis.com/2011/11/the-case-of-the-crumbling-shoes.phphttp://kotaku.com/some-sneakers-age-like-shit-1693056687
>>819023I got a pair of reproductions. They are pretty comfy, but hurt my sole after a while. I've only had them just shy of two weeks. They hurt much less as I made my way back to my car from hiking yesterday. You guys feel they need to be broken in more?
>>835984Took my jingle boots for their first outing on a two day hike. They are great for ankle protection. Lost my footing and my ankle did a full 90 degree bend and when I corrected myself I only felt slight pain that went away in about 10min. I had to break them in though for them to be comfy
>>829945That's so your dead body can be found in the bush easier. No lie.
Anyone else keeping bees /out/ there?
>>846755Not that anon, but neonicotinoids are destroying my friends' hives. Similar levels of destruction.
>>848202A lot of people think it's the pesticides fucking with their hormone levels and other stuff.Even worse is shit like this:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/09/01/like-its-been-nuked-millions-of-bees-dead-after-south-carolina-sprays-for-zika-mosquitoes/They straight up carpet bombed these hives and millions of bees died. These are people's livelihoods for god's sake.
>>848089The hive itself doesn't need a lot of space. Maybe like a feet around it and preferably with the opening facing the sun.If you live in the suburbs you should be fine. If you live in a rural area then you will need flowers for a mile or two out. Wildflowers will do, as long as it's not barren. Planting a garden won't make a difference unless you have a whole orchard or something.
>>847371Personally, I think a lot of the fear surrounding bees comes from wasps, since wasps and yellowjackets are really agressive (at least in the US, European yellowjackets are not nearly as agressive) compared to bees, and a lot of people can't tell them apart.
>>851308Bees are friendly dudes. Especially those bumble cocksuckers.