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I'm trying to learn all the plants in my area including invasive species but the grasses and grasslikes are kicking my ass.
Is there a book or website that goes over the key differences between grass tribes?
I live in Utah by the way.
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here's another

https://plants.usda.gov/java/noxious?rptType=State&statefips=49
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yo dude, MS Plant Bio student here with a graminoid fetish. getting a handle on the tribes is a first great step to knowing your way around the Poaceae. a great book to start out with is Agnes Chase's First Book of Grasses (https://www.amazon.com/Agnes-Chases-First-Book-Grasses/dp/1560986565). I was where you were a few years ago and this lil book answered all my questions. local library may have a copy. it's been published since like 1930 because ya can't improve on it.

graduate into Carex/Cyperaceae when you're done--that's tha real shit
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At least in California we have Calflora maintained by one of the UCs. Not sure if your state has similar.

We also have the California Native Plant Society for online and in person.

Otherwise you could key things out with the Jepson Manual.
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>>1120497
M.S. Ecology here. It is a rare pleasure to hear another anon talk about that poaceae. I did my masters work on grassland biodiversity. Now Ive got visions of bouteloua and sorghastrum dancing through my head.
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>>1122417
I must say, my lawn is extremely biodiverse. If I were to allow it to grow up to maturity, I'd have wild salad greens to last all year; except winter. Though, I do harvest seeds and have fresh salad microgreens/sprouts indoors in winter. I think there's also 6-8 obviously different types of grass.

After doing some pipeline work in my yard, some gas pipeline guys wanted to spread straw then seed with "tall" fescue, but I told them "no" since I already had Panicum anceps on hand, plus many wild salad green seeds saved up from plantago to stellaria. I wouldn't want to wreck my possible grazing farmland with tall fescue after all.

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Best firelay for store bought split wood?

I have two bundles of wood for my back yard campfire. I usually split some of it down for tinder and kindling as i dont have enough dead wood to source in my yard.

Usually i go with a lean-to to start and then build it up to a tipi, but eventually have to blow on the coals and add more kindling to keep the bigger logs going. Was thinking about trying an upside down firelay but those are best for making coals. Any ideas?
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>>1122080
couldn't even tell if satire if it wasn't for the extremely ridiculous concept they're satirizing, 10/10
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>>1122080
I could see this being a real thing. Hipsters in Vegas would pay out the ass for my premium artisanal Northern Arizona fair trade, organic firewood.
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>>1122208
reality has become so ridiculous that the lines between parody and reality have merged into parality
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>>1122056
you're asking how to set up a log fire without it going out halfway?
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>>1122359
That depends, is it non-GMO?

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No better trail in north america
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Sorry I can only enjoy the outdoors in conservative states because I'm a giant pussy that's terrified of possibly seeing hipsters
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>>1121861
Most people go /out/ to get away from people. Sorry you're too much of a pussy to go places that aren't crawling with other 2 legged creatures.
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>>1121861
Lemme know about how hanging out with faggots talking about how much they spent on their yeti cooler
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>Francois D’Haene set a new record of 2 days, 19 hours, and 26 minutes on the 210-mile Joh Muir Trail through the Sierra Nevada mountains on Tuesday, Oct. 17, 2017.
weew la
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>>1122562
>tfw hike so fast you average more than 3 mph in your sleep

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Is it dece? Would you recommend?
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>>1116316
If you go with a guide so you know how to navigate the route, then it's fun to do with a friend. Don't go exploring on your own, don't go farther than the known route.
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>>1121648
not really a cliffhanger hes clearly dead
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>>1122515
yea, too clearly, I don't like those finales man
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>>1116335
If she gets caught at least she'll lose weight and be able to squeeze through a week later
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>>1116389
Did the rescuers get down to him but just couldn't pull him out? Fuck that would be the worst

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I am a guy from a tropical country living in Canada for almost two years. Last winter I was too scared do any hiking. But this summer I spent almost every opportunity I got in /out/ and I don't want to be cooped up for the six months of winter.
Any advice from winterbros about hiking in Canadian Rockies in the winter and not dying?
What gears do I need?
Also for someone who never stepped on a ski, how easy is it to learn cross-country skiing? Can I learn by buying an old pair off kijiji and trying them on my own?

Also winter hiking general. Post pretty pics and scary stories if you have them.
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Winter hiking is fantastic. You'll want trekking poles and micro spikes for traction on widely used trails. If you're on less used trails you'll need to break trail yourself with snowshoes. Expedition height gaiters are also a good choice as they make snow trudging and postholing significantly more pleasant.
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I can’t wait for winter this year, I love winter hiking. Did my first winter scrambling last year, pic related.

Gonna go stay in a bothy in the middle of nowhere in December, hike by day then sit by the fire and read in the evenings.

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why do we hate him again?
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>He died following his dreams!

There are countless people that have followed their dreams and happily lived. Anybody who hero worships McCandless is depressed and wants to die.
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>>1121100
I can only really find his want to live off the grid a little bit admirable, but it was his ignorance that caused him to die. If his death has taught anything, it's probably to not take the luxuries of civilized living for granted. And to do your damn research when going into wilderness.
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>>1112905
Im right wing, does that make me toxic? you bigot shitbag, I actually live in the fucking woods so fuck you. haha
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>>1111420
>millennial

He died in 92 making him a member of generation X, retard.
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>>1112905

MAGA, you sweet little snowflake.

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My favorite camping is dispersed beach camping.
Unfortunately its pretty hard to find so please share any locations you know about as well as any beach camping tips.

This winter I plan on camping a bit in Texas then on to Sinaloa then take the ferry to Baja Sur.
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>>1118162
What is good in the winter?
I am up for anything that tastes half way decent since I eat all I catch
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>>1120088
Redfish, black drum, whiteing, flounder, and blacktip are all good eating.
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>>1117344
Technically yes, but as long as you dont bring glass bottles, arnt acting like a drunk twat and dont litter you'll be fine. I usually get boxed wine and some solo cups.because it has minimal packaging. Usually I burn the cardboard and pack the bladder and cups out with me.
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>>1120509
That makes criminals out of normal people.
Really corrosive to society.
A well functioning society should have very few rules but strictly enforced
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Any way we can steer this thread back to beach camping?

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>tfw no /out/ gf that doesnt mind getting dirty
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>>1121009
God hardbody women covered in blood is like my #1 turn on
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>>1121514
They're granny arms. You can see the cottage cheese texture to the flab.

>>1121376
Because she's a shallow bitch who up until this staged photo-op had lived an entirely sedentary lifestyle (note the gut, cankles, the fact her calves are as big as her thighs, and the 2 chins).

>>1121304
>arm held out and up to give the thumbs up
>"she's squeezing her arms against her body"
So are you a fat apologist or just retarded?
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>>1120966
what a weird fucking body
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>>1122244
>dub trip dub

sup?
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>>1122271
I wasted my first dub-trip-dub on that weird bodied skag???

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Who actually went? Post pics
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>>1121748
Then i just happened upon an old fire circle and cooked lunch
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>>1120630
The fuck is wrong with your finger man
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>>1122029
What? The skin peeling back from the thumbnail? That sometimes happens to me too, especially in dry weather.
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Went out on Sunday. Not much of a hike, but I think the view was pretty af.

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Do any of you listen to any podcasts? Either outdoor related or just want you listen to during the boring parts of your activity
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>>1117354
>>1117397
listened to the craig demartino and just finished kevin landolt...both really great and made me not only want to get back to climbing but try and appreciate being healthy. thanks anon.
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>>1117406
my nigger
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>>1118764
fucking awful reddit taste
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>>1114732
Bigfoot encounters and Dogman encounters are hit and miss but bother are real spooky /out/ shit at their peak. Anything about david paulides and missing 411.
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>Hardcore History
hands down One of the best pieces of media I've had the privilege to consume. Dan Carlin breaths life into the past, and takes you on a fucking vision quest that keeps you immersed in the distant and not-so-distant past. Stop holding your dick and start listening to Blueprint for Armageddon

>Meat Eater
Steve has some pretty interesting guests on, all /out/ related. >>1117336 did a good job explaining what Steve's podcast is all about.

>The Church of What's Happening Now
I'm just starting it, but I like Joey Diaz. He talks about his heavy life (pun intended) in a matter of fact way.

>Joe Rogan
but only when he shuts the fuck up and let's his guests speak, and even then, his quality exists only as outliers of really good, or is deleted from my phone 10 minutes in. Lots of content to keep you busy for a while

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Just bought this bad boy.
What pack do you guys use for long trips?
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>>1121418
Also, are the cinching straps good enough to make this operate like a 30/40 liter back without excess room or making the interior too misshapen to fit gear?
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kelty master race
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>>1115998
pack of condoms and a credit card
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Why does out gear look so god damn awful
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>>1122386
uw8tm8

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Hey /out/, Kinda new to this board but I think I have lurked long enough to make a thread. Anyways I was wondering what are some way one could get a job with the NFS/NPS prior to completing college or even afterward. I am currently going to begin volunteering but I live in LA and there are not a lot of options for people who are into forestry or the outdoors out of a handful of volunteer organizations. Is there somethin I Am missing or should I just move once I graduate, outside of this volunteer programs I would like to start getting my foot in the door.

Also does anyone know good places to camp out near portland? I am going to be there for a week
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call ranger stations and ask. They hire lots of seasonals.

My understanding is that even the bottom-rung USFS jobs are a step up from entry level, so to speak. So it's helpful to have some relevant experience. Trail work with CCC or Americorps, maybe fighting fire for a private contractor, landscaping, something to do with OHVs or pack animals if the positions you're looking at involve those things, etc etc.
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I've got a similar situation. Currently in college, I'd like to work in a National Park or firewatch just for a month or so during the summer, not interested in working for them fulltime but it's something I would love. Any way this is possible?
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>>1122293
Why would they hire someone who was only going to be there for a month when there are hundreds of people who would go for the entire 6 month seasonal? Also, it’s not like they can just up and hire someone right after you quit. The whole process can take like a month to 6 weeks, you’d be fucking them over for whatever project you were hired to do.
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>>1122293
yeah just a months isn't gonna happen. You gotta commit for AT LEAST 2 months to make it anyone's while.
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>>1122270
>They hire lots of seasonals
this is exactly how most government workers start off. Get a seasonal position and make yourself indispensable.

also helps to be a veteran disabled in combat that has a bachelors or better. Or some necessary industrial or law enforcement skills.

Hey guys,

My neighbors’ oak tree is a nuisance that costs me countless hours of time every year especially around fall and it always clogs my gutters and renders my lawn barren.

Can someone offer me tips on poisoning it so that no one thinks it was poisoned but thinks it died of disease instead? Maybe some kind of fungus that I can spread onto it? I don’t hate trees but this one is a definite nuisance.
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>>1108442
you are literally as bad as the people who poison other people's pets for being annoying
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>>1108442
You're going to get fucking shot you retard. How about you talk to your neighbor like a civilized fucking human being who can comfortably live in society with other people rather than being a goddamn retard.
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>>1120264
this tb.h
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OP sounds like a whiney little bitch...lets see kill an oak tree that's older than himself because he has to clean his gutters occasionally or just fucking install gutter guards...welcome to Trump's 'Merica
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>>1108495
I was thinking this. Seriously dude.

You are placed in a copy of earth 50000 years ago, in a climate that fits your physique pretty well. You have 30 women to fuck to get your species going but there are no other humans (if you're a lady assume you're a guy in the hypothetical scenario). You have to get your tribe to as advanced a technological escape before you die, how far could you take it?
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Maybe I could get to the bronze age? I would try to focus more on teaching my tribe than technology so my descendants have a solid base to build from. Once they have language and maths they can figure shit out for themselves over time.
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I'd invent social media and thus save the world.
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>>1112479
I'll put those ladies to work on my cock. Then I'll tell them I'm god and amaze them with fire.

After that we are likely to starve to death since I have no skills as a hunter/gatherer.
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>>1112700
>establishing a religion that essentially passes down all your knowledge of modern tech and how to reach it over generations
This pleases me
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>>1118265
Congratulations! You just invented abbos! Now you just have to wait 50,000 years for Europeans to give you bricks,and soap.

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There's literally nothing wrong with wool and other natural fibers like waxed canvas.

You guys realize that people back in the day went /out/ way more than we do today, right? And going way, way back (1800s, early 1900s), there weren't even trails in many of the areas you went hiking or hunting yet. And yet they didn't all freeze to death and die from using wool and canvas.

I know you guys are desperate to justify spending $1200 on a plastic coat, and there's nothing wrong with it, but stop shitting on people that still wear wool. I've been hunting in the Rockies longer than most of you faggots have probably been alive and I haven't died yet from wearing leather boots, wool pants, and flannel shirts.
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>>1107485
Leather doesn't freeze unless its shit leather.
Duckboots exist
I almost definitely live in a colder climate than you and my duckboots have never fucking frozen. They get stiffer, sure. They aren't going to fucking freeze unless you decide to go knee-deep in a frozen lake.
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You can use both.
My jacket is a layer of knitted wool over polar fleece. It's warm but breathable, not too heavy, much more flexible (not to mention more quiet) than purely synthetic jacket with down, and looks better. Plus the smell of wool is cozy.
I own a synthetic rain jacket because it was super cheap ($100) and summers are awful here. If I were in a warmer climate with year-round rain, I would have bought a waxed canvas jacket.
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>>1107303
>mfw allergic to wool
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>>1119586
Chur breatha
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I scored a nice wool sweater never worn at goodwill for 3$ and wear a thin rain jacket over top if needed. Why not both etc etc



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