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> be me
> Practice charting time.
> take a lot of time taking measurements around my basement.
> Take measurements back to charting table.
> Absolutely fucked.
> Repeat measurements repeat charting.
> Still fucked.
> Drop pen in frustration
> North changes.
> That was several hours of my life.
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>>2854809
Daily reminder that wood toothed nigga named his last ditch defensive point "fort nessisary" with the only locked door being on the liquor shack.
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>>2854820
He's just like me
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>>2854433
Sorry for off-topic but where can a European get himself a legit Cammenga 3H compass? Everything seems to be fake including """their""" Amazon store.
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>>2854809
He was part of the British regiment that fired the first shots of the war at the French.
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>>2855515
Not off topic at all.
Idk but now I want to look into that question.

>Have friend
>Retired military (Navy)
>Came into a bit of money, with the business he and I run
>Travels the world in our off season (we are military contractors).
>Flys to Nepal with his thot Australian GF
>Decides he wants to climb Mt. Everest (lol)
>Actually find this sketchy as fuck outfitter that agreed to take him on a expedition that has multiple fatalities on record
>Ligit is spending like $40k and more on this whole expedition
>Has no experience Mountain Climbing aside from Mt. Fuji and other mountains in Japan (really are just hikes)
>Has no glacial or Alpine traversing experience/training
>/fit/ in a base way he hasn't trained or acclimatized to this.
>Basically giving me the whole yolo line
>Literally already at base camp.
How do I convince my friend he's going to die and this a beyond a pants on head retarded idea. How the fuck do these outfitters not vet people on something like this? He's on a high because he divorced his psycho whore of a wife that put his dog down to spite him and he's made just over a million dollars working in the defense industry and shrewd investment with me.


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>>2855411
I call bullshit.
There are permits and waiting lists.
The amount of people on the mountain is highly controlled by government regulations. You cant just walk up to some kiosk and buy a ticket.
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>>2855411
People do this with Everest all the time. A little different, but when I did the circuit there were little children, accountants, and schoolteachers doing it.
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>>2855411
Make sure you're in his will.
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>>2855411
>made just over a million dollars working in the defense industry and shrewd investment with me.
the whole story sounds fake and gay due to reasons other anons already mentioned, but this one takes the cake for being the fakest and gayest. kys OP
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>>2855411
>his psycho whore of a wife that put his dog down to spite him

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Land that conservation agencies refuse to allow to be open to the public outright should be turned into condos for millionaires instead.
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>>2855482
They should be drained and shipped off world and sold to the highest bidder. Then the ocean bed should be covered in concrete.
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>>2853939
Yes saar open the designated shitting forest saar.
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>>2853942
Information redundancy. It's like a library, museum, or graveyard. Information is stored there even if it's not in use.
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In my state, the state and state-funded yet private conservation groups own land from which the public is barred. I know of multiple properties where this is the case.
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>>2853939
>Land that conservation agencies refuse to allow to be open to the public
Thats where all the kids go missing
>>2853942
Yes it does, if you're jewish

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If you aren’t visiting the parks in offseason, you’re a retard
>no crowds
>No annoying foreigners in busses
>park roads normally blocked to vehicle traffic are open
Take the offseason pill
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>>2855433
talked to a lot of boomers who work for state/federal lands
I don't think they give two fucks if the parking lot is too small
that's the next generation's problem
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>>2855434
>talked to a lot of boomers who work for state/federal lands
and they all told you that all donations are embezzled?
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>>2855442
no, they just clearly didn't give a fuck about fixing anything and seemed totally detached from their work
I think they just care about a steady job and if the forest is barely accessible and overcrowded they don't give a fuck and if you gave them more money to fix it they would find a way to pocket as much of that as possible

you had this dedicated park/trail building era in the 1930s with the CCC and that all got abandoned, in many cases you still have various remnants of what they built - overlooks and roads and shelters but often left to crumble and get overgrown
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>>2855449
sounds like an eastoid problem lol
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>>2855449
>be me, mid level resource spec at a national forest office
>have no funding, no seasonals anymore to delegate work
>still have injunctions to manage the land for many uses without funds to do so
>office has to manage resource extraction, forest health, archeological resources, fire and fuels, cultural resources, and lastly recreation
>only manage for the recreation that the local userbase cares about because they are the ones who use the forest the most and there is no money for more
>most of our staff goes on fires as much as they can as its the only way to make money
>admin person gots DOGE'd so I have to work double duty at the front desk
>think I hear a knock at the door, its so weak I can hardly tell.
>in comes this fat ball of a man, clearly from a city out of state
>hear the wood creak as he slowly crosses the floor and hear the ice clink in his stanley cup
>pulls out the latest iphone and points a fat finger to an alltrails map
>asks in the most fem sissy voice ever why there isnt a double wide paved path to an old fire tower
>think to myself that its because hes the first person to ask for it in all the years working there.
>think how it would take years of NEPA review and compliance because the old stuff is all historic now and therefore an archeological resource

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What is the thinnest /out/ glove technology available today?
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>>2846972
https://ozerogloves.com/product/ozero-9002/
Found these on a bike trail. They are my idea shittly done: wetsuit material (neoprene) but too thin. And like some are saying, sweat is a problem. I put some mickey mouse cotton gloves as liners, but somehow colder than cotton alone. Gonna end up making mittens put of ace back support brace....like mfers are playing piano in winter weather......WHERE THE FUCK ARE ALL THE MITTENS?
https://ozerogloves.com/product/ozero-9002/
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I did some research, and apparently those weird fucks up north use a mesh base layer. Maybe that plus latex over it solves the problem? The mesh should wick the moisture away, while the holes provide air isolation. The latex traps the air. All still very thin. Just needs some ultra-thin layer over this so it doesn't look like I work at Subways.
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>>2854218
Thats outdoor guy who's wife just got sick, that was the subject of his last vid. Someone finally had my idea. It doesn't wick shit. Its all about boundary layer. And windproof layer off the skin just traps air. Mesh allows that. Those polyester vapor protocol gauze coveralls they use in hospitals will boil your alive, but the are virtually nothing. Its also a other layer on scrubs. So just another layer, any layer, has air sticking to it as a fluid. All insulation is about trapping air (or a vacuum).
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>>2854218
>Son, I've seen the clothes you buy for your "hikes in the woods"
>Is there something you want to tell us?
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>>2846972
dont know if it's the thinnest, but i really like my pig fdt gloves.

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Was he retarded? or free?
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>>2854679
fuck off klaus, your people lost their aryan spirit and have been nothing but soulless automatons ever since.
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>>2855050
Not german, but I'll take this as a compliment. Hopefully the millenary reich to come.
Also people calling you of bot or automaton are naive irrational people larping as depressive poets, influenced by the meme of the young Werther, as if great figures of the European history were some dreaming faggots or something, while they actually were rational prosaic chads who were probably very insensible, very close to their self-interests.
I'm pretty sure Napoléon wouldn't have died like a retard in Alaska because he didn't bring a map and refused others' help. I can picture him flattered about the redneck offering him a meal
>Why yes, you recognized my imperial stature, didn't you, peasant. You'll be thanked for your charity, and made a rich man when I come back.
And not
>oh man the river melted
>I keep eating berries but I'm still weak, maybe they weren't the right ones?
>No thank, man. I'm a strong independant (dead) man!
>Oh jeez, guess I'll die. Well, I-I'm happy, peace to everyone and God is good!
Napoléon would have never!
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>>2834319
>Like you could do better.
I'm still alive so I am doing better.
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>>2854765
McCandless died a free man.
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>>2830740
I don't care for how Krakauer tried to lionize him in the book and in my youth, I ridiculed him. Older now and my thoughts have changed. He was a lost soul coming from a shitty home life. His heart was in the right place, but the whole thing seemed like a long-winded form of suicide. Christopher probably thought that he could never go back home again.

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I use a fenix ARB L21 headlamp coupled with the acebeam E75 hand held torch. Both are rechargeable by USB-c and the batteries are interchangeable 21700. These two give me more light than I can use and make a great pair.

What lights to do you carry?
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>>2855190
>Both out performed by random chinkshit from temu.
I can get 10,000 lumens for 50 bucks off Amazon or ebay.
Im not going to pay a hundred bucks for 1/10th the performance.
I guess it was nice of you to help the CEO of Rei pay for that new Ferrari though.
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>>2855379
My HL60R still works after 10 years, still holds charge on the original battery and has been dropped and used in the rain and freezing temperatures more times than I can count, nothing on Temu can claim the same my cheapskate friend. That said, modern Fenix is pretty bad.
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Cheap aliexpress version of the expensive ultralight waterproof pocket flashlight thats on garagegear.

Seems like a pretty accurate copycat, I'm happy with it, was 1/10 of the price.

Similar to pic related

After a violent confrontation with police he fled into the Victorian High Country.

What followed is a three month manhunt by 500 police, including 125 specialist tactical officers, 20 dog teams, six helicopters, an unknown number of thermal drones and in addition hundreds of military personnel. Despite the effort not so much as a footprint of the man was found.

As the search past its first month the issue became obvious. This guy had four decades of experience in the area, his son calling it his second home. Friends recounted an obsession with bushcraft and a history of living offgrid in makeshift homes, old buses, sheds and caves. He knew the mineshafts were a safe comfortable place at night and as a prepper he was known to stash things in many a hidden place.
As the hunt entered its 2nd month his connections to anti government groups were exposed and the police had to reconcile the fact he may be helped. With thermals completely failing, tactical officers were given the gruelling task of crawling through caves and mineshafts. With no success the Australian public began questioning what all this was costing. Independent media interviewed locals and suspicions were raised, how could such a well liked man kill for no reason? Why has the bodycam footage not been released?
As the hunt entered its 3rd month half the units were sent home. Weeks of snow storms and dangerous conditions had crushed morale. The welfare toll was immense. Stories of psychological damage on officers. PTSD was diagnosed, this man, this ghost, he could have been behind any tree. Various theories were floated, suggestions that if the police couldn't find him then maybe he wasn't even there.
And now there is but a skeleton crew, still searching, refusing to give up.
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>>2854850
Fair. Thanks.
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ZOGBOTS 0 DEZI 1
BASED
FUCK THE VICZOG!
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>>2854986
I think he got 2, and wounded another in the arse as he was running away.
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australian police are retarded. all they know how to do is extort drug dealers. they simply do not enforce laws. as a matter of fact all australians are retarded. most ninnying, tattletaling, incompetent, lazy, passive aggressive, amphetamine addicted retards in the entire world. i hope indonesia annexes and forcibly rehabilitates this entire ridiculous country. no more meth pipe little aussie. no more adderal little aussie - no, you're going to learn discipline in a forced labor camp.
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>>2855409
You forgot alcohol.

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I didn't try to be an ultralight fag on purpose but it turned out all the gear I need for a 3-4 night backpacking trip fits in a 40-45L backpack, so I'm looking at options for backpacks in that range. Currently using this Gossamer Gear 42L pack and it's okay so far, but does anybody have other suggestions for mid-sized packs?
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>>2855256
Atom Packs
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>>2855450
>frameless
>load lifters
retard
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>>2855450
>frameless
Sorry bro, I can't help you there. My gear is ultralight but I still find a frame essential.
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>>2855494
This, it should be for daypacks. 40-45L without a frame sucks. I think OP might've ended up with one he didn't like and should go for alternatives instead of frameless.
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Sorry for hijacking the thread but I'm looking for a big (45+L) pack with removable lid that can turn into a daypack like this youtube.com/watch?v=g9dDFltpt1Y (But not quite like this. I'd love the daypack to have a long vertical compartment that can fit an ipad or a small laptop)

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Any tips for off trail hiking? I pretty much covered all trails at my go to out location but there's still plenty of unexplored land and terrain to hike on but I'll have to find my way through dense scrubland and hilly/rocky terrain.
I'm in pretty good shape and have all the gear since I already day hike at least a couple times a week(15 or so miles).
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Gloves, goggles, gun and gps
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>>2855436
Plan on moving far more slowly than you normally do.
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>>2855436
heavy gloves and a billhook..depending on the underbrush.
problem with just 'pushing through' is that it makes it that much harder to find your way back.
Where I live (western OR) the back country is a solid mass of blackberry brambles and assorted sticker bushes, can make it very difficult to stay on a heading as well as finding the route you took on your return trip.
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I used to track animals using radio telemetry so I'll say to buy some Carhartt overalls or comfortable knee boots to deal with brambles. Gloves are good for when some bullshit line blackberries gets caught on your clothes so you can just pull them off.
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Mountaineering helmet. You will fall over. Don't be like so many who fell over and one shot themself.

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The purpose of this general is to encourage people to go /out/ and find cool fossils and artifacts. This thread is also a place to share our own collections and things we find when we are /out/ hunting.

Rules are as follows,
>To just post and discuss fossils and other related geological subjects.
>When you post about a fossil in your collection, please label it with what formation it is from, what it is, and where in the world it is from.
>If you don't know where it originated or the species that is ok, just label it as so
>You can post rocks and minerals as long a they are ones that you have found while /out/
Helpful Links
https://paleobiodb.org/navigator/
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/
https://zoom.earth/
Geologic maps of US states (usgs.gov)
A Beginner's Guide To Fossil Hunting - Fossil Hunting Trips - The Fossil Forum
Listing of Historic Resources (alberta.ca)
USGS | Pocket Texas Geology

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>>2853178
yo i haven't seen one of these threads in a while, i haven't been in this board for ages too. If this thread ever dies come to the /extraflags/ general on /int/, i now live in Northern Italy so we can talk about geology all day, plenty of well documented locations around here. I'm mostly into minerals but there's also a few fossil locations i wanna explore
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Trimmers Rock Formation in Devonian shale and Siltstone near Millville PA. I work in solid waste as a CQA so i got out to a site where they were excavating the next cell for cover material while i was doing Liner work next cell over. I'd hop in and find alot of shell impints, hash and ripple marks along with crinoids. Found Burrows back here in the summer too. Some Pretty Tight dendrites as well, site management lets me have at it . The ripples were too big to take unfortunately. I got some from near Allentown PA anyway
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Found this flake in the summer, have sent it to the correct authorities, but they have not added it to the database yet. Mearly a flint flake so not that intresting but always nice to find a new site.
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>>2855428
Pic related is about 4km from the site I found the flake. It was along the river.
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>>2853178
does petrified wood count? Found a 50 million yr old redwood tree

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Hey guys long time no see, lately I've been hiking a lot in wolf country (pack of 6 confirmed) are they a real threat or do they scatter when coming across humans?
According to google it should be fine.
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>>2854753
>Are there any signs I should take notice of to see if they are currently in the area?

Tracks and pee markers- they tend to pee in the same spots. easy to see if there is snow
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>>2854965
I love finding wolf tracks in the snow
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awoooo
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Like others have said, they can "in theory" be dangerous, but wolf attacks on humans are extremely rare in North America. Probably 50x less likely than bear attacks, which are already very infrequent.

I don't know if there is a record in modern times of an actual predatory wolf attack against human using the sort of premeditated pack hunting tactics that >>2854751 describes, at least in North America. Most attacks are by solitary wolves that have been driven to starvation or are rabid or otherwise sick, or they're in suburban environments and habituated to humans and garbage. The odds of being "hunted" by a pack of wild healthy wolves is like, astronomically unlikely.
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>>2855406
there was in Alaska about 15yrs ago. Female out jogging- all the other attacks were capative, rabid or habituated to human garbage

I'm gathering ideas for biomes and natural environments. I'd like to know if anyone knows of any natural environment or biome that they find pretty. It could be a description, a picture of nature that you like, anything helps.
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>>2854226
when I'm picky I pick sites like this.
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Me name's Gary. It's also Larry. And Barry. But where we come from it's pronounced Barreh. Moisturised with an S is what I am lad. This is my bi-'ome where I make me 'ouse.
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>>2854256
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>>2854257
DA GREEN LEAF
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Temperate rainforest

If there is the best place on the planet to at least visit, then where it is rn
>I want to visit it
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it was inside of you the whole time
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Cleveland, Ohio
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>>2855375
Akron Ohio

>>2855381
No
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Captain Cook Hawaii. Big island. Scarcely populated. Hunt deer, boar, or chicken year round. No bears, snakes, or mountain lions. Hike swim and camp for free, all over. Big island has almost every biome on the island. Jungle to savannah. Climb a 13er in the morning, eat lunch on the rim of an active volcano, spearfish for dinner. Local ranchers make cheap grass fed beef. Fruit trees everywhere.

Best place in the US IMHO.

>>In before Hawaii is expensive...
It's cheap for locals, expensive for tourists.

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What is that thing it has slike really ligyt footsteps i the snow should i run please respond fast guys
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>>2855359
Idunno OP. It doesn't look good.

https://youtu.be/UQmSqrHOhzo?si=j0RsA9kuEeXEaRX4
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it's those dudes from the girl who loved tom gordon
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>>2855359
That's me walking dog, just say hi, nothing to worry about


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