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* This is a thread for backpackers, larpers and dayhikers need not apply

I was having a talk with a friend and it brought up a good topic that puzzles me. We, backpackers, spend hundreds of dollars on good mats, air mattress, and sleeping bag to stay comfy year around to do our hobby. I think we can all agree on that. Why end it at the hike though? I personally use my gear at home as well in place of a normal bed. Beds cost thousands of dollars, why pay for that when my sleeping bag and mats work just as good? My friend of course was heavily against this and told me I needed a real bed for home. I don't get it.

Do any of you sleep in your bags at home as well?
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>>2803894
My big black bull Bovice often uses my bed with my wife - so I’m usually designated to sleeping in my camping gear in the garage like OP while he inseminates her with his large BBC.

It’s honestly my favorite part of the week because I get to go on a camping trip and my wife lets me take my Nintendo switch with me.

At the end of the night Bovice will give md a ride in his hellcat to McDonald’s and get me some nuggets and a shake while mt wife’s gaping offices recover.
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>>2804080
I dropped $500 on sleeping gear, I’ve never once considered using it in my house even when I’ve given up my bedroom for elderly family members. My couch is significantly more comfy than even top of the line car camping foldouts of cots.

Only time I’ve ever slept in my camping gear is when I’ve had an overnight assignment at work, and even then I’m not sleeping great in a cot. (Pic related my coziest out set up)
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>>2803893
>>2804086
>none of them are as good as an actual mattress.
>>2804096
>a nice mattress will always beat backpacking sleep system

except if you bought a hammock
hammocks beat beds in terms of sleep quality and comfort
you're just not fucking a hoe the same as youwould in a bed
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OP I think your friend has a point. Why torture yourself?
Now...I actually do miss sleeping in a sleeping bag. I did it for years when staying at a friends place rent free. Had this old 90's flannel sleeping bag, would tie it up and put it in a corner when I wasnt using it....fuck i miss those days...kinda.
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Yes, I have used a sleeping bag at home before. Your sleeping bag will become thrashed and destroyed by you using it at home. I have blown out 5 bags this way over the years and once I met my wife I have only done it once in a while when I was sleeping on the couch and I was working graveyard and didnt want to disturb my wife while she was sleeping. The bags are rated for exposure to the elements so you are going to sweat like crazy which will break down the bags faster. The bags are also not as durable as you would think and after around 50-60 Nights I noticed that they will start to tear. Just get an appropriate set of sheets and a comforter, you will get more use out of it and be more comfortable.

What is the best hiking pliers?
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>>2809141
>onnahike
>about to cross a bridge
>bridgekeeping hermit demands I fix his lawnmower before I'm allowed to pass
>mfw left my hiking pliers in my car
>go back to car but decide to go home instead
Since then I always keep them on me whenever I'm hiking
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>>2809659
Real answer; cutting fences
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>>2809141
I have a "thing" about holding my penis outdoors when peeing, so I use my Leatherman.
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>>2808389
The marki-plier
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I have a cheapo Leatherman Rev I keep in my everyday backpack but the only thing I ever remember using it for was pulling nails out of my car's tires.

Uaaaaaaaaaaha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaahahhaaaaaaa
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>>2809971
>*cool bass solo*
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>>2809748
OHHHH AHH AHH AHH AHH
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>>2809748
les is such a real one for putting every episode on youtube for free
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excellent thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ntDFfgxKz4
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>>2810520
Les is /ourguy/

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I feel like this isn't the best place to ask, but I'm in the market for a chair.
But the thing is, I am looking for it to be compact as possible, weight doesn't matter, it could be 12lbs and made of lead.
It's not for glamping but rather for motocamping.
I'm also 189cm 110kg

Does anyone here use backpacking chair?
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>>2809948
Crazy Creeks rule
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>>2809948
I have the Helinox sunset chair and i am 194cm/100kg. It is very comfy and I have spend hours sitting in it starring into the fire. The best thing about it is that you can rest your head while looking up and if you sit down like a normal person it will last. The only downside is the price.
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>>2809948
Why in the hell would you want to sit MORE after riding a bike all day?

Also the answer is an UL hammock. Nothing with poles is going to pack down smaller than some fabric and straps, unless no trees, at which point, idk, just lay down in the sand or something.

t. former motocamper
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>>2809948
I use that exact one and it is very good
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>>2810504
>UL hammock
this is the way

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Britbong backpacking in USA dumb question: If I'm walking with a 60l pack, will a forest janny ask where I'm camping / for a campsite reciept or just for the trail permit?

I want to dispersed camp when I'm hiking but there's literally nowhere near where I'm heading (sanfran bay area, Point Reyes probably) that permits dispersed camping.
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>>2809651
Thanks!
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>>2809307
Holy fuck muttsharts need a fucking permit to be outside????
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>>2810359
Unironically yes, they don't have "right to roam"
They will probably call the police on you for being in their HOA or just "loitering" remember when the cop pulls over Rambo in "first blood" 1982, yeah, that's the future now
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>>2809307
in SF you can camp in Golden Gate Park quite comfortably, and for free. just don't get caught rent-a-bikes are all over the city, either lyft or baywheels is the ebike rental app.
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>>2810360
Sounds like you should actually visit here fren. Not all states are like California. I live in a somewhat wealthy suburb and nightwalk without ever having cops mess with me.

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I have a gear addiction. For the past 8 months i've bought a new backpack nearly every 2-4 weeks
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>>2806847
How is it? I was looking at these types of bags, also as a day pack/personal item carry-on for trips by plane. Opted for a Camelbak, 16L model instead.
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>>2807004
what backpack did you get anon
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>>2806815
Make bug out bags for yourself and/or loved ones and gift it to them. Turn your vice into a virtue.
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>>2807724
Just because they do gay shit doesn't mean they make bad packs. They all take credit from the central bank so they're technically all gay owned business.
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>>2810375
That’s not what I was getting at. I wasn’t discrediting Osprey. I was just pointing out that Mystery Ranch uses the same marketing tactics but in a different direction.

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/Out/ in the holy land
Looking for snakes in the Judean desert edition
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>>2809348
Looks like he caught you.
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>>2808088
> expected snow
> never posted snow
israel disappoints
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>>2802880
>>2804655
What does this have to do with /out/?
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I hiked the length of Jordan a number of years back. The north was a bit too populated for me, and there was a lot of road walking. From Dana south it got very beautiful!
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>>2809644
The weather people lied to us again
>>2809720
Looks nice

what strange / spooky stuff have you seen?

once when i was in the desert, there was a telephone pole, on it looked exactly like a 10ft tall bird of prey, just eyeing me down
it was about a good 5min of walking, which felt like forever, just to see that it was a transformer that looked weird, none of the other poles had it either
sounds dumb, but it really did look exactly like a gigantic human sized hawk, and the "head" even seemed to follow you too, really interesting illusion, since it also hit all the primal parts of the brain that gone "you're about to be fucking eaten by a bird!!!!!!"
a year or two later, when i was gonna take a picture, it was gone, which adds a strange air to "it was right there, i tell you!"

>inb4 go to /x/ for this shit
i want real stories, not >i smelled the rotten shit fart gas, and my best friend was turned into a skinwalker, and then i pulled out that gun from videogame and blasted it, dude trust me
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>>2807583
>"hey watch this"
lmao
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>>2802680
Pop clutchh
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For a while in Shasta there was a dude attacking people with a chainsaw and I saw him run into someone's camp fire and get fucked up.
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>>2809537
>I saw him run into someone's camp fire and get fucked up.
thats like saying "so anyway, i skydived with a clown"
you're gonna need to say a bit more than just that lmao
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Came across this in Slovakia
Not deep in the woods but a few kms away from any village, in a valley surrounded by forest as I was on my way to a ruined castle
Not a soul around, gloomy weather

winter is behind us and its time to get back /out/, sea, lakes, rivers, even canals, sailing is fun too
fotm vacationer paddleboardfags go to >>>/trv/
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Very good post, thank you fren, yea current and wind is no concern, I just use it for fishing, and weight isn't much of a concern, I'm not going anywhere in a hurry, would mostly use the motor when actually fishing, otherwise I'd just paddle

This is my canoe, I've posted many pictures before but I believe theese to be the technical specs, it's a "wenonah backwater"
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>>2810419
And it already has a square back for a motor, so... just begging for one
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>>2810419
then yeah, something like the $100 minn kota 30lb thrust is fine. I use one on a 17ft canoe occasionally with a small 50Ah LiFePO4 battery.
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is there much, or very few, overlap\crossover ,skill and technique, form ,transference between : boat rowing, kayak, canoe, and rafting? I wish to try white river rafting someday, I think it's LESS dangerous than (white river\equivalent) canoe and kayak..because you're in a group, and most likely an expert instructor\leader.
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>>2810437
I've never gone rafting, I started out sea kayaking, then went to canoing, I think if you already have a "feel" for your watercraft, can rescue yourself, then I wouldn't see much wrong with trying

Is this a pebble tool or just a rock? i find quartzite pieces with chunks broken off all the time but never in such a deliberate pattern..
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>>2809677
way cool! it fits nicely in the hand so i could see how it could be functional that way
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>>2809678
it is palm sized or so
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>>2809284
sorry for the delay, here is the back side of it, its just plain looking
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>>2809373
that was very poetic lol, thank you
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>>2809683
seeing as theres no chip-out on the back, i'm guessing its probably just a geofact
though, i could be completely wrong on that

theres also the chance its a geofact that DID get used as a tool too, however rare or common that may be

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Ran into a mountain lion today in the Monongahela National Forest around the Bartow area of WV. Pretty freaky encounter. I could see it stalking me off in the distance, immediately started backtracking slowly while facing it. Probably kept sight of it on and off for a good 20-30min. Apparently these things aren't supposed to be on the east coast but some manage to wonder this far over according to the forest ranger I talked to once I got back to my truck. Might see on the news about them capturing it in the next week or so here as he said they will have to post the area and start to try to trap it.
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>>2810107
what would happen if you met one of these and did the head nodding and blinking with the special blowing noises, could you be friends?
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>>2810254
whoever said i left?
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Wish I was stalked by a cougar.
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>>2810107
You are a massive pussy, there is a lion that lives near my house and he never bothers anyone.
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>>2810107
are you a girl?

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I need to train and see how far I can crawl and keep trying to beat my time. I'm hoping to do a few miles a day.

Should I wear knee pads and gloves so I can do it faster without worrying about injuries?
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>>2807808
Google it and find out the response time of your local feds.
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>>2807795
I bump your whole thread!!
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>>2807795
Anywhere with high grass and bushes. no point in training on smooth ground without cover.
>few miles a day
Seriously? If you do it properly, a single mile can easily take 4-8h.
>Should I wear knee pads and gloves so I can do it faster without worrying about injuries?
Kek, you're really retarded, aren't you? Of course, you should wear gloves and pads, if you have them. But they won't make you faster, and you shouldn't be going fast in the first place. The whole point of crawling is not being seen. Go slow, at a steady pace, and try not to disturb vegetation too much.
And from my own experience, I'd suggest avoiding places with people. gets really awkward when someone goes to take a leak, and you have to choose between announcing yourself (and looking like a retard) or risking them spotting you and assuming you're a voyeur.

Btw, that dude in your pic doesn't know what he's doing. His butt is up way to high, making him easy to spot, and with his hands down that far, there'd be no way for him to keep his rifle out of the dirt.
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>>2807795
Go to the gym and and do it on a treadmill, you could have unlimited distance and would be limited only by your skills and possibly the gym staff.
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>>2807795
>Where is the best place in a city to practice combat crawling?
At the gay bar inside another man's ass.

>not all those wonder are lost ;)
I'm so fucking tired of instagram and tiktok women in the traveler scene. I'm tired of the faggy "spiritual" men who orbit them too.
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>>2809809
Then don't read their blogs, retard.
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>>2810255
And yet here you are. Curious.
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>>2809999<begin here
>>2810366<end here
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>>2810373
You're doing God's work here, keep it up!
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>>2809809
I’m good with it if they are hot and their insta is full of bikini ass shots.

/out/ humor thread
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>>2801645
Is this an extremely abstract shitty loss?
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Cavegirl gf expectation: >>2802800
Cavegirl gf reality: picrel
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>>2810342
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>>2801641
Get it soon, Hudson's Bay is about to go out of business.
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>>2808799
God Damnit
I guess I be stackin' now

Tell me about the weather, plants, animals, locals, etc.

Do you hated there, do you love it there?

I'm genuinely curious.
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>>2810290
do you know any cool spots in the plateau section of (northern) alabama, meaning west of the "proper" foothills? It's kinda a dream of mine to visit there. I realize there's not the sort of prominence to offer sweeping views, but I would like to be proven wrong.
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>>2810119
Yeah I'm not moving to some rural southern poverty shithole
Also, learn to take better pictures
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>>2810296
>Dauphin Island

Never been there, but whats wrong with Dauphin Island?
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>>2810367

Still better than my place


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