Any TN anons out there?Know any good /out/ spots in the great volunteer state? Personally I am looking for some spots in Eastern TN in the Nooga area, want to go on a day hike, camp overnight and do some plinking. Was thinking of the pocket wilderness in Dayton, but idk their rules on guns and camping overnight.Anyone else been having fun getting out in the mountains?
>>2855096I dont think I've heard of rattlesnake point. Around where is it at?
>>2855487above caney fork (i think tn has multiple things labeled caney fork) in the scott's gulf wilderness areahttps://www.flickr.com/photos/cavertim/3032533761/^picture of the purported overlook'Rattlesnake Point is perched on a high bluff far above and between Sheep Cave and Big Laurel Falls.https://www.uppercumberlandcaving.net/Gulf/tour/rattler.htmlI believe it is where I circled on the map roughly given the description. There's also wilson ridge to the wsw of that and buzzard's roost on the other side (south) of the gorge upstream to the NE, which seems to be wholly on private property.
>>2855487also I think it maybe has to be right here because I emailed the land manager and he said the reason it's not *legally* accessible is because to get to it, you have to go through a nature conservancy property that is closed to the public; but the rattlesnake point overlook itself is on public land - he gave me that clueif you go to google maps or the scott's gulf park maphttps://tnstateparks.com/assets/pdf/additional-content/park-maps/Scotts_Gulf_Wilderness_web_1.pngyou can kinda see a little area of cliffy edge in darker green that's on the virgin falls state natural area owned land which is open to the publicfuck i hate bureaucracy
>>2855510If the illegal entry way is the one he immediately thinks of then thats probably just one that be reached by foot. With these plateaus out here you honestly really might need to do some bouldering. Get some pics when you go anon!
>>2855727anon, im not going, it's illegaland I don't even know exactly where it isor it could be overgrownit just makes me angry they don't fix up these views that people have enjoyed in the past
General thread for freediving and/or spearfishing, since I don't see one mentioning either.My personal questions:I've been thinking about taking a certification course so I can learn to do these things correctly and safely. I'm probably happy just doing the diving, but spearfishing seems like an easy and practical extension. I only casually skindive and rod-and-reel fish at the moment. Does anyone have experience taking such a course?I know I'll need my own gear early on, but each instructor I can find seems to have their own equipment shops, so I imagine they wouldn't be impartial about the quality of other gear on the market. I live on the Pacific coast of the US, so I see that a 7 mm open cell wetsuit is strongly recommended. What good/bad features should I look out for on wetsuits and other equipment? For non-competitive diving, carbon fiber fins are almost certainly not worth the price, right?
Curious about PB depths for folks in this thread? Mine is 29m
>>2849100How'd that happen? It seems kinda tricky to pull that off
>>2762393In Hawaii it's considered poor form to use tanks for spearfishing. Not kapu.
>>2839358>>2839372So it DOES give real time depth measurement, and it is very accurate compared to my dive rope, but it every other respect it is a POS. The interface makes no sense and the controls are impossible to use while it’s on your wrist.
Hunting season is upon the northern hemisphere>what are you hunting this year?>any changes in gear?>any interesting stories from last year?
my workplace is doing a secret santa and person im giving a gift to is an outsdoorsy type and i know he hunts, any ideas for a gift? (agreed upon budget was 25$)
>>2854512Game bags are always handy and easily under 25$. A nice headlamp alternatively but a little more.
How do you learn big game (mostly boars) habits, track them, how do you do the hunting thing ?
Actually can anyone recommend me resources to learn and train as a hunter ? I mean I could go out in the wilderness and try to figure it out myself, but are there any books or videos on the subject ? I haven't seen "educated hunters" whether irl on online, just guys who go out with a gun and a permit and shoot (sometimes coordinating with each other)
>>2855687Meateater is a pretty good resource for newbies
Do you swim in winter? the ocean doesnt freeze here but gets down to around 7 degrees in january/february at its lowest. today it was 9 and pretty comfy. i go multiple times a week and it has really helped me build up my cold tolerance for all /out/ activities. not to mention strengthening my immune system and easing arthritic and tendonitic pains.
>>2849494Bump. How do you deal with after drop? (when the cold blood in your hands and feet starts circulating after you get out, and that drops your core temp)If I stayed in any longer than a quick dunk I end up shaking really bad until I get in a hot shower and so it makes driving home challenging.I notice most people are / do some combination of>fat>gloves and booties>spend most of the time only up to waist>in and out quicklyIs their some way I can counteract it and get the full experience? Maybe I'll bring a hot drink next time.
>>2854910i usually dont linger, i dry off and then immediately begin a brisk walk. i have to climb up a steep bluffs to get back to the bus stop so usually i have warmed up by the time i make it there. being fat also helps yes lol
This is going to sound absolutely retarded but the memories this thread brought back to me just now give me so much joy and I must share. I will try not to draw this out with too much detail.From the time I was about 12 or so me and my friends would often go disappear in the woods and hang around down the at the train tracks, sometimes wandering for the whole day, dodging authorities and exploring all the interesting ruins and infrastructure along the way. Very Stand By Me.The tracks largely follow a local river, and mostly through the middle of nowhere, and we always loved the river bubbling along like it has for thousands of years. Eventually one summer day we went so far from home and spent so much time /out/ that the sun went down and we had to make it all the way back in the dark, totally unprepared for night. That opened a whole new era of going out into the woods and tracks in the afternoons and evenings, which, as we got older, turned into drinking beers along the tracks sometimes all night long.Now, back to the river. One of my friends loves getting into water once he's drunk, and he started having these episodes where late at night, after a number of beers, he couldn't resist getting into the river in the dark, to enjoy the flow of cold water in complete safe isolation from the rest of the world. This eventually evolved into a "test of manhood" in which we would dare each other to disrobe in the middle of night in the middle of frozen New England winter, and dunk ourselves into the river and whoever could tolerate it the longest would win. We ended up doing this spontaneously many times over the years, and I literally always enjoyed it. The trick was to have no clothes on at all so you could put your dry clothes on afterward and not freeze to death. Once I froze so bad I lost my voice entirely, but it was still fun as fuck.I've done the test'o manhood in both summer and winter, but I've never done it sober.Pickerel.
>>2849494Where did their tits go? Did they freeze and fall off? And wtf is going on with their faces? Holee shit. They must have fallen out of the tree that is used to make the ugly sticks and hit every damn branch on the way down. Fuck me, that's rough.
>>2855637they're 14yo boys :3
Post your favorite /out/ patches. Also, how do you display any patches you don't have on a pack? I tried doing a board but I think I need more patches because it feels empty.
>>2849984I don't own any patches, I was just giving up some ideas
esoteric symbols of great power
Ahoworks is good for a few /out/ism patches. Ordered last year and everything came well packaged.
>>2850000>not cleaning your gear Dirty cunt
heres mine time was about 3 weeks agowas fishing at the river behind my house and had a decent fishing day except for one momentwas drinking with my rican friend who brought some ribs and casting for catfishi had like about 85 yards out and felt a rumbleso im like ill wait for a hit on the hook and then run back and shitwell about 10 minutes goes by and its grtting worselike channeling energy to my sphincter i say fuck that im gonna lose it and start reeeling in my linenow im struggling to hold this flow in reeling in on a 12 foot pole on 40 lb test with a 4oz weight(nriver has some deep black mud), i knew it was gonna be a bad onegod knows 8 seconds into the retreival im probably 40 feet from shore i get a MASSIVE strikeand then it happenedthe force of the fish hitting my hook plus my stance, it must have looked absurb.mind you now, i am wearing swimtrunks (no net) and all this happens in less than a secondi instinctely threw back my rod for the hook land, and in the same action release my bowelsComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2853242He shit in a deep planter box, where nobody is going to step. No point in using a bag. Dogs just shit wherever they want, that’s why it’s the law for their owners to clean it up (they do it for free) and the ones who don’t are assholes. Most people are at least smart enough to poop somewhere off the beaten trail, so to speak.Even in nature, I roll over a big rock, blast it into the hole, and roll the rock back.
Perhaps any female hikers would like to share? :-)
>>2853528Can confirm,I dont clean my dogs shit, am an asshole otherwise
Day hiking in below freezing weather, snow everywhere. Have to shit, feels like diarrhea. I’m not going to make it to a McDonalds or a gas station. Nobody around, not even dog walkers. Go off far enough I can’t see the trail anymore. Find a small clearing surrounded by bushes for cover and drop a big pile. It’s not diarrhea after all, just a huge pile shaped like a classic turd emoji. Wipe with snow. Do not recommend. About two days later, back on the same trail. Decide to go have a look. It’s been in the teens all week. Expect to find a frosted shitpile. It’s gone, MacReady. My footprints and various animal tracks are all that can be found. My shit is gone. Some animal ate my shit.
>>2842514>cover up my leavings>my leavings >leavingsHolee shit anon. That is fucking awesome and hilarious.
> be me> Practice charting time.> take a lot of time taking measurements around my basement.> Take measurements back to charting table.> Absolutely fucked. > Repeat measurements repeat charting.> Still fucked.> Drop pen in frustration > North changes.> That was several hours of my life.
>>2854809Daily reminder that wood toothed nigga named his last ditch defensive point "fort nessisary" with the only locked door being on the liquor shack.
>>2854820He's just like me
>>2854433Sorry for off-topic but where can a European get himself a legit Cammenga 3H compass? Everything seems to be fake including """their""" Amazon store.
>>2854809He was part of the British regiment that fired the first shots of the war at the French.
>>2855515Not off topic at all. Idk but now I want to look into that question.
>Have friend>Retired military (Navy)>Came into a bit of money, with the business he and I run>Travels the world in our off season (we are military contractors).>Flys to Nepal with his thot Australian GF>Decides he wants to climb Mt. Everest (lol)>Actually find this sketchy as fuck outfitter that agreed to take him on a expedition that has multiple fatalities on record>Ligit is spending like $40k and more on this whole expedition>Has no experience Mountain Climbing aside from Mt. Fuji and other mountains in Japan (really are just hikes)>Has no glacial or Alpine traversing experience/training>/fit/ in a base way he hasn't trained or acclimatized to this.>Basically giving me the whole yolo line>Literally already at base camp.How do I convince my friend he's going to die and this a beyond a pants on head retarded idea. How the fuck do these outfitters not vet people on something like this? He's on a high because he divorced his psycho whore of a wife that put his dog down to spite him and he's made just over a million dollars working in the defense industry and shrewd investment with me.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2855411I call bullshit.There are permits and waiting lists.The amount of people on the mountain is highly controlled by government regulations. You cant just walk up to some kiosk and buy a ticket.
>>2855411People do this with Everest all the time. A little different, but when I did the circuit there were little children, accountants, and schoolteachers doing it.
>>2855411Make sure you're in his will.
>>2855411>made just over a million dollars working in the defense industry and shrewd investment with me.the whole story sounds fake and gay due to reasons other anons already mentioned, but this one takes the cake for being the fakest and gayest. kys OP
>>2855411>his psycho whore of a wife that put his dog down to spite him
Land that conservation agencies refuse to allow to be open to the public outright should be turned into condos for millionaires instead.
>>2855482They should be drained and shipped off world and sold to the highest bidder. Then the ocean bed should be covered in concrete.
>>2853939Yes saar open the designated shitting forest saar.
>>2853942Information redundancy. It's like a library, museum, or graveyard. Information is stored there even if it's not in use.
In my state, the state and state-funded yet private conservation groups own land from which the public is barred. I know of multiple properties where this is the case.
>>2853939>Land that conservation agencies refuse to allow to be open to the publicThats where all the kids go missing>>2853942Yes it does, if you're jewish
If you aren’t visiting the parks in offseason, you’re a retard>no crowds>No annoying foreigners in busses>park roads normally blocked to vehicle traffic are openTake the offseason pill
>>2855433talked to a lot of boomers who work for state/federal landsI don't think they give two fucks if the parking lot is too smallthat's the next generation's problem
>>2855434>talked to a lot of boomers who work for state/federal landsand they all told you that all donations are embezzled?
>>2855442no, they just clearly didn't give a fuck about fixing anything and seemed totally detached from their workI think they just care about a steady job and if the forest is barely accessible and overcrowded they don't give a fuck and if you gave them more money to fix it they would find a way to pocket as much of that as possible you had this dedicated park/trail building era in the 1930s with the CCC and that all got abandoned, in many cases you still have various remnants of what they built - overlooks and roads and shelters but often left to crumble and get overgrown
>>2855449sounds like an eastoid problem lol
>>2855449>be me, mid level resource spec at a national forest office>have no funding, no seasonals anymore to delegate work>still have injunctions to manage the land for many uses without funds to do so>office has to manage resource extraction, forest health, archeological resources, fire and fuels, cultural resources, and lastly recreation>only manage for the recreation that the local userbase cares about because they are the ones who use the forest the most and there is no money for more>most of our staff goes on fires as much as they can as its the only way to make money>admin person gots DOGE'd so I have to work double duty at the front desk>think I hear a knock at the door, its so weak I can hardly tell.>in comes this fat ball of a man, clearly from a city out of state>hear the wood creak as he slowly crosses the floor and hear the ice clink in his stanley cup>pulls out the latest iphone and points a fat finger to an alltrails map>asks in the most fem sissy voice ever why there isnt a double wide paved path to an old fire tower>think to myself that its because hes the first person to ask for it in all the years working there.>think how it would take years of NEPA review and compliance because the old stuff is all historic now and therefore an archeological resourceComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
What is the thinnest /out/ glove technology available today?
>>2846972https://ozerogloves.com/product/ozero-9002/Found these on a bike trail. They are my idea shittly done: wetsuit material (neoprene) but too thin. And like some are saying, sweat is a problem. I put some mickey mouse cotton gloves as liners, but somehow colder than cotton alone. Gonna end up making mittens put of ace back support brace....like mfers are playing piano in winter weather......WHERE THE FUCK ARE ALL THE MITTENS?https://ozerogloves.com/product/ozero-9002/
I did some research, and apparently those weird fucks up north use a mesh base layer. Maybe that plus latex over it solves the problem? The mesh should wick the moisture away, while the holes provide air isolation. The latex traps the air. All still very thin. Just needs some ultra-thin layer over this so it doesn't look like I work at Subways.
>>2854218Thats outdoor guy who's wife just got sick, that was the subject of his last vid. Someone finally had my idea. It doesn't wick shit. Its all about boundary layer. And windproof layer off the skin just traps air. Mesh allows that. Those polyester vapor protocol gauze coveralls they use in hospitals will boil your alive, but the are virtually nothing. Its also a other layer on scrubs. So just another layer, any layer, has air sticking to it as a fluid. All insulation is about trapping air (or a vacuum).
>>2854218>Son, I've seen the clothes you buy for your "hikes in the woods">Is there something you want to tell us?
>>2846972dont know if it's the thinnest, but i really like my pig fdt gloves.
Was he retarded? or free?
>>2854679fuck off klaus, your people lost their aryan spirit and have been nothing but soulless automatons ever since.
>>2855050Not german, but I'll take this as a compliment. Hopefully the millenary reich to come.Also people calling you of bot or automaton are naive irrational people larping as depressive poets, influenced by the meme of the young Werther, as if great figures of the European history were some dreaming faggots or something, while they actually were rational prosaic chads who were probably very insensible, very close to their self-interests.I'm pretty sure Napoléon wouldn't have died like a retard in Alaska because he didn't bring a map and refused others' help. I can picture him flattered about the redneck offering him a meal>Why yes, you recognized my imperial stature, didn't you, peasant. You'll be thanked for your charity, and made a rich man when I come back.And not>oh man the river melted>I keep eating berries but I'm still weak, maybe they weren't the right ones?>No thank, man. I'm a strong independant (dead) man! >Oh jeez, guess I'll die. Well, I-I'm happy, peace to everyone and God is good! Napoléon would have never!
>>2834319>Like you could do better.I'm still alive so I am doing better.
>>2854765McCandless died a free man.
>>2830740I don't care for how Krakauer tried to lionize him in the book and in my youth, I ridiculed him. Older now and my thoughts have changed. He was a lost soul coming from a shitty home life. His heart was in the right place, but the whole thing seemed like a long-winded form of suicide. Christopher probably thought that he could never go back home again.
I use a fenix ARB L21 headlamp coupled with the acebeam E75 hand held torch. Both are rechargeable by USB-c and the batteries are interchangeable 21700. These two give me more light than I can use and make a great pair.What lights to do you carry?
>>2855190>Both out performed by random chinkshit from temu.I can get 10,000 lumens for 50 bucks off Amazon or ebay.Im not going to pay a hundred bucks for 1/10th the performance.I guess it was nice of you to help the CEO of Rei pay for that new Ferrari though.
>>2855379My HL60R still works after 10 years, still holds charge on the original battery and has been dropped and used in the rain and freezing temperatures more times than I can count, nothing on Temu can claim the same my cheapskate friend. That said, modern Fenix is pretty bad.
Cheap aliexpress version of the expensive ultralight waterproof pocket flashlight thats on garagegear.Seems like a pretty accurate copycat, I'm happy with it, was 1/10 of the price.Similar to pic related
After a violent confrontation with police he fled into the Victorian High Country.What followed is a three month manhunt by 500 police, including 125 specialist tactical officers, 20 dog teams, six helicopters, an unknown number of thermal drones and in addition hundreds of military personnel. Despite the effort not so much as a footprint of the man was found.As the search past its first month the issue became obvious. This guy had four decades of experience in the area, his son calling it his second home. Friends recounted an obsession with bushcraft and a history of living offgrid in makeshift homes, old buses, sheds and caves. He knew the mineshafts were a safe comfortable place at night and as a prepper he was known to stash things in many a hidden place. As the hunt entered its 2nd month his connections to anti government groups were exposed and the police had to reconcile the fact he may be helped. With thermals completely failing, tactical officers were given the gruelling task of crawling through caves and mineshafts. With no success the Australian public began questioning what all this was costing. Independent media interviewed locals and suspicions were raised, how could such a well liked man kill for no reason? Why has the bodycam footage not been released? As the hunt entered its 3rd month half the units were sent home. Weeks of snow storms and dangerous conditions had crushed morale. The welfare toll was immense. Stories of psychological damage on officers. PTSD was diagnosed, this man, this ghost, he could have been behind any tree. Various theories were floated, suggestions that if the police couldn't find him then maybe he wasn't even there. And now there is but a skeleton crew, still searching, refusing to give up.
>>2854850Fair. Thanks.
ZOGBOTS 0 DEZI 1BASEDFUCK THE VICZOG!
>>2854986I think he got 2, and wounded another in the arse as he was running away.
australian police are retarded. all they know how to do is extort drug dealers. they simply do not enforce laws. as a matter of fact all australians are retarded. most ninnying, tattletaling, incompetent, lazy, passive aggressive, amphetamine addicted retards in the entire world. i hope indonesia annexes and forcibly rehabilitates this entire ridiculous country. no more meth pipe little aussie. no more adderal little aussie - no, you're going to learn discipline in a forced labor camp.
>>2855409You forgot alcohol.
I didn't try to be an ultralight fag on purpose but it turned out all the gear I need for a 3-4 night backpacking trip fits in a 40-45L backpack, so I'm looking at options for backpacks in that range. Currently using this Gossamer Gear 42L pack and it's okay so far, but does anybody have other suggestions for mid-sized packs?
>>2855256Atom Packs
>>2855450>frameless>load liftersretard
>>2855450>framelessSorry bro, I can't help you there. My gear is ultralight but I still find a frame essential.
>>2855494This, it should be for daypacks. 40-45L without a frame sucks. I think OP might've ended up with one he didn't like and should go for alternatives instead of frameless.
Sorry for hijacking the thread but I'm looking for a big (45+L) pack with removable lid that can turn into a daypack like this youtube.com/watch?v=g9dDFltpt1Y (But not quite like this. I'd love the daypack to have a long vertical compartment that can fit an ipad or a small laptop)
