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what went wrong, /out/?
how could you americans allow this to happen to your most prized possessions
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>>1380188
>el goblino valley
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Better they crowd there and leave the rest of /out/ alone
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>>1374950
kick out foreigners, make parks free, and use the military for maintenance/patrols like the old days.
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>>1374950
>people who complain about permits
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>>1374992
>fundamental misunderstanding of supply and demand

what's /out/ got planned for spooky October?

you going out huntin' some skinwalkers, anon?
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>>1378466
All I know of is that boy who was a chiefs son and he like drowned while out at sea and talked to the gods in the forms of fish, whales, and orcas, then came back to life or some bullshit. Im pretty sure its more Inuit tho.
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>>1378465
East side of the sierras on the H-T national forest has some places. Don't fuck around in any of the ghost towns though, especially Bodie. that place is legit cursed.
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>>1376653
>GOBLINS?
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I'm hoping to organize some spooky ÜrbËx in some of the old abandoned mills and houses along the train tacks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7xWw-_VIy0
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Recommend a cheap, little, waterproof 10L backpack
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>>1377790
>10L
What are you planning to even cram into such tiny pack? Spare undies, toothbrush and breakfast?
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>>1377790
Is that for running in the wild for an afternoon ? You might want to grab the first 2€ backpack you'll find anon.
>>1377795
>>1378787
Go away trash.
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>>1377795
Lol
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>>1377795
faggot
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>>1377795
You may not appreciate it but this is what peak performance looks like.

anyone around here do gold panning as a hobby?
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>>1379777
If your in north america basically there are 4 major regions known for gold

in the US there are
- Delonica Georgia, site of the first US gold rush on little meadow creek
- The entire US west coast, every major river from Washington to New Mexico has pannable gold
- The entire state of Alaska
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>>1379887
In Canada its basically just the Province of BC that has serious panning, the Yukon is focused on heavy mining more nowadays.
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>>1379104
I have gone panning a few times and there is something about it that is very fun. the second time I went I got 2 nuggetts probably 1/10 the size of the smallest nugget in your pic, actually probably 1/20th.

It's disproportionally fun vs. what you are ever likely to find doing it.

My guess is it depends where you go of course but after talking to some old timers and other people my guess would be that if you are just literally panning with a pan finding a nugget as large as the two bigger ones in that OP would be a once in 3 lifetimes event
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>>1379140
No offense anon, but you may want to sell that gold bar before shtf and buy things that would actually have value in such a scenario; ammunition or components, purified water, non-perishable food, medical supplies, drugs and alcohol, tobacco, etc. If the end of the world as we know it really occurs, baubles and useless shiny won't be worth anything to the average person.
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>>1379973
I am still looking for my "big" one. I find about an ounce a season lately, less than i could normally because i ve been working for others instead of digging. Its all about where your looking, and how much time you spend looking. My master, the guy I apprenticed under, finds about 20 - 30 nuggets like those a season, and dozens of ounces of small gold. It takes real skill to get as good as him.

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Where is the place with the most hillbilly woods people who make 'shine and just do redneck shit? Im looking for a cool place to make a homestead.
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Schuylkill County, Pennsylvania. Coal country redneck vibes. Moonshine, ATVs, chilling in the fucking woods. It's a great place. Love the skook. Rest of coal country in PA is like that too.

West Virginia is nice too as a whole, but I have less experience being there.
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>>1379188

You're going to get run out as soon as anyone even suspects you're Californian.
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south western oregon
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WV is cool if you don't mind the heroin zombies.
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>>1380182
>t.

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Raccoons have near completely ruined my yard, tried near everything to dissuade them from coming in and digging up & ruining everything. Now I just want them dead. Can't shoot them as neighbors are fags. Does the old glass shards in meat still work? What about antifreeze soaked food?
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>>1377033
Nice build up.
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>>1378039
US houses look like european garden sheds
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>>1379741
Nice cuckshed my swedish friend
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>>1376103
>deal with it
Yep, that's exactly what he's going to do
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>>1376334
>just spend $400 minimum and wait 6 months

What's so special about these bottles? I see americans talking about them all the time
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>>1380035
Based and repilled.
With the correct branding amerimutts would buy dog shit.
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>>1380035
So let me guess, you trek ass-naked to your nearest glacier, hack off a piece of it with your home-knapped adze, and use a magnifying glass made from home-made sand glass and animal bone to melt it, right?
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>>1380035
You do realize that about 80% of the various budget and store brand bottled waters are also owned by either Coke or Pepsi, right? Basically 90% of all bottled fluid sold globally is.
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>>1379995
Dasani is Coke
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>>1380035
>none of these brands
>doesn't realize roughly 12 corporations own everything commercial now

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I've just been having a hankering for some good high quality outdoors pictures. Thanks.
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>>1378269
looks horrendous
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Cameron Lake.
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>>1377971
>starting with a pic of a bunch of houses
way to fuck up, op.
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>>1379032
That's beautiful desu.

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I want to be a mountain guide, anyone has some advice?
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>>1378434
I don't have any better one, sorry aon
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>>1378434
Do you have a better one i could use?
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>>1378431

in which continent do you reside?

if you're European, check the requirements to become a member of the UIAA.

short version of the basic requirements, git very good at the following things:

sport climbing
mountaineering
alpine skiing
endurance
have a proper summit book which conforms to the minimun requirements

then you can apply to be a candidate mountain guide.

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>>1378434
there is a Rainbow man.
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>>1379071
>All those requirements
>Not doing it by the backdoor, with no skills whatsoever and endanger normies
Sad.

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How is it? Doable or stupid and uncomfortable? And by rough weather I mean windy, rainy, snowy or blow 0c conditions.
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just don't do it
you will "survive" but it will suck
it will be fun the first time, possibly
but by the 10th time you'll just say fuck it and buy a floored shelter

don't waste your time money
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>>1376094
Permethrin treated sleeping bag liner = no ticks.
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>>1375887
>>1375868
>>1375862
As homeless dude I can tell you it sucks and does not work. In my home (ahem, leanto) ive got like 3 tarps strung up and that didnt do shit for keeping the water off my bed. They were the standard cheap blue tarps you might find at walmart but still I had 3 of them. Not talking about misting or light rain but heavy rain.
> rain penetrated 3 tarps
So I took some old Inflatable Mattresses that I had butterflied out and put them over that and the rain rarely ever bothers me under there now.
Save your Inflatable Mattresses because they make absolutely kick ass ground pads to lay your sleeping bag on. Abit heavier than a foam mat but well worth it, water will not penetrate from the ground. If you get flooded then thats just human error.

Also before anybody talks about Temps its the Rain you've got to be worried about because Fall/Winter is Rain Season in the united states.
> like 3 frigging days of it at a time
> nervously checks national radar gov after typing this post

And when it comes to being surprised by rain that wasnt in the forecast and then having it rain all day, what usually happens is the cold air behind it makes everything freeze. So if you or any of your shit got wet because of that you're screwed and might be in a life/death situation. Or sleeping in a very, very curled up ball since every other part of your bed is wet and you dont wanna touch it.

If you're getting snow just make sure you keep cleaning the snow off of it. And dont be a ditz and use twine or paracord to support the lean-to because that doesnt provide any frictional support to the tarp. Get a tree branch and use the paracord to suspend it. The tree branch will make sure the tarp doesnt go anywhere.

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>>1376162
>but by the 10th time you'll just say fuck it and buy a floored shelter
I've been using tarps exclusively for years and haven't once missed a floored shelter.
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>>1377915
>As homeless dude
How is shit going, anon?

are these things worth there money or just really unaesthetic memes?
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>>1378174
Don't fucking buy these if you are even remotely seriously about hiking.
They are complete shit, only made for the hipster pretender faggots. The city folk who drive their Honda HR-V front wheel drive out to some national park camping and then take selfies for instagram.
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>>1380109
The soles weren't the problem, vibram has always been good for that. But the fabric and the seams at the sole are not so tough. Have had many pairs replaced under warranty to have the replacements rip within a month. They are good for those who like them but have limits.
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>>1379882
meh, there are better options for rich people (that aren't paleo memes) as well. Don't turn it into a class thing poorfag. But yes,barefoot/5fingers shit is absolutely retarded for running, even more so for hiking. And yes, it's heavily overpriced and marketed towards people who like to buy their gear with an accessory-statement that says they are now the bearers of exclusive knowledge and that everyone else are wrong.
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>>1380117
that and saber tooth tigers
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>>1379617
Reminder that the current female marathon record holder wore these.

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>Is he alright?
He seems to be growing very not straight.
Is that bad? I want tree to live long and be healthy. Also I don't want to hurt tree by bending it.
Should I leave tree? Or what should I do?
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>>1380094
See: >>>/an/2836078

Also just straighten it, it will be fine.
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I can think of two things you can do to straighten out the growth of a plant -
You could train the tree with a brace, lightly tying it to a bamboo stick or something like that. (Don't tie too tightly and strangle the plant.)

or

Place the plant so that it is leaning away from the sun. As the plant grows, the hormones should push it towards the sun as it grows, straightening it out over time. It very well could be leaning because it is looking for better sun.
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>>1380094
That pots already too small. Get a bigger pot before it becomes to rootbound.

>Euro
>20s
>No higher education
>neeting for a couple years now
What are some good /out/ places to move to in the old continent and find some menial job?

>inb4 scandis fuck off we're full
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>>1380003
>Why are these foreigners jobs?
They're entry level seasonal hospitality jobs that require relocation, and shared housing and they don't pay that well.
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>>1380003
>Seasonal
>Shit pay
>Shit conditions
>Relocation, but not moving out
Gee, that was hard. Almost as if it only took a single second of thinking to figure this one out
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You need a skill if you're going to find a job in Scandinavia
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>>1380020
Painting or cleaning doesn't require any "skill". With cleaning, you can do all the overtime you want.
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>>1379997
Your age is showing, zoomer scum.

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Autumn > Winter > Summer > Spring

In that order. Summer plebs not welcome.
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Fuck I miss autumn. I would do anything to transport back to New England for a couple weeks right now. My mom even sent me an autumny Yankee Candle for nostalgia (although it's not the smokey autumn campfire one I would have liked but still nice). Sad times.
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>>1379588
t. never been in the southeast
it will literally go from highs in the upper 30s to lows in the upper 70s overnight and stay there.
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Autumn is perfect except for loose leaves on the trail fucking you up. Treads dont matter those leaves will have you eating rocks
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>>1378515
>he lives too close to the equator to experience snow
You will never not be a pleb. I genuinely feel bad for you.
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>>1379614
>Rotting leaves
>Not enjoying the comfy nostalgic smell of falling leaf canopies

>Mud
Fake news. That's spring.

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>>1379940
Different anon, but it looks like GURPS Low Tech appendix. So when "TL" is mentioned in the text, it means "Tech Level". 0 is Stone Age, 1 is Bronze, 2 is Iron, 3 is Medieval and 4 is Early Modern.
Basically, the peak (TL4) performance from those documents is roughtly equal with English Agriculture Revolution: fully understood crop rotation, efficient animal husbandry, some level of basic mechanisation, but no synth fertilizer, no engine-powered tools and basically being an Amish farm
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>>1379960
I see. The same thing applies regardless of tech level. There's easy ways and hard ways to do things at the same tech level. It will all depend on the setting anon will be using.
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>>1379940
I need it for wheat, barley and potatoes, grown in climate similar to Willamette Valley, Oregon. Further compounded by rapeseed, sugar beets and clover (NOT clove). And as >>1379960 thankfully explained other things, I indeed need that in "Amish" style of doing things.
The problem with winging things up for fiction is that you still need some basis for that. I have none, aside those two short lists of simplified rules. And I don't want to end up in a situation where the numbers and values will be unrealistic or too big/small
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>>1379982
>>1379960
Funny thing about the Amish. A lot of their techniques are actually pretty modern. Even they are now starting to go "less modern" by picking up more organic practices, which is something they haven't been doing. There are even Amish-owned corporations spearheading scientific agricultural research. It basically uses science to figure out ways to not use pesticides. Pesticides are something the Amish also have been using a lot of and they too have been having problems with their crops with them. Thus, the push for research and discovering new methods that prevents the problems associated with pesticides.

Read up on, "John Kempf."
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boom, freeze warning already issued

picked everything usable, and covered the few plants left....maybe they'll make it a little longer, maybe not




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