Any tips for off trail hiking? I pretty much covered all trails at my go to out location but there's still plenty of unexplored land and terrain to hike on but I'll have to find my way through dense scrubland and hilly/rocky terrain. I'm in pretty good shape and have all the gear since I already day hike at least a couple times a week(15 or so miles).
Gloves, goggles, gun and gps
>>2855436Plan on moving far more slowly than you normally do.
>>2855436heavy gloves and a billhook..depending on the underbrush.problem with just 'pushing through' is that it makes it that much harder to find your way back. Where I live (western OR) the back country is a solid mass of blackberry brambles and assorted sticker bushes, can make it very difficult to stay on a heading as well as finding the route you took on your return trip.
I used to track animals using radio telemetry so I'll say to buy some Carhartt overalls or comfortable knee boots to deal with brambles. Gloves are good for when some bullshit line blackberries gets caught on your clothes so you can just pull them off.
Mountaineering helmet. You will fall over. Don't be like so many who fell over and one shot themself.
The purpose of this general is to encourage people to go /out/ and find cool fossils and artifacts. This thread is also a place to share our own collections and things we find when we are /out/ hunting.Rules are as follows,>To just post and discuss fossils and other related geological subjects.>When you post about a fossil in your collection, please label it with what formation it is from, what it is, and where in the world it is from.>If you don't know where it originated or the species that is ok, just label it as so>You can post rocks and minerals as long a they are ones that you have found while /out/ Helpful Links https://paleobiodb.org/navigator/https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/https://zoom.earth/Geologic maps of US states (usgs.gov)A Beginner's Guide To Fossil Hunting - Fossil Hunting Trips - The Fossil ForumListing of Historic Resources (alberta.ca)USGS | Pocket Texas GeologyComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2853178yo i haven't seen one of these threads in a while, i haven't been in this board for ages too. If this thread ever dies come to the /extraflags/ general on /int/, i now live in Northern Italy so we can talk about geology all day, plenty of well documented locations around here. I'm mostly into minerals but there's also a few fossil locations i wanna explore
Trimmers Rock Formation in Devonian shale and Siltstone near Millville PA. I work in solid waste as a CQA so i got out to a site where they were excavating the next cell for cover material while i was doing Liner work next cell over. I'd hop in and find alot of shell impints, hash and ripple marks along with crinoids. Found Burrows back here in the summer too. Some Pretty Tight dendrites as well, site management lets me have at it . The ripples were too big to take unfortunately. I got some from near Allentown PA anyway
Found this flake in the summer, have sent it to the correct authorities, but they have not added it to the database yet. Mearly a flint flake so not that intresting but always nice to find a new site.
>>2855428Pic related is about 4km from the site I found the flake. It was along the river.
>>2853178does petrified wood count? Found a 50 million yr old redwood tree
Hey guys long time no see, lately I've been hiking a lot in wolf country (pack of 6 confirmed) are they a real threat or do they scatter when coming across humans? According to google it should be fine.
>>2854753>Are there any signs I should take notice of to see if they are currently in the area?Tracks and pee markers- they tend to pee in the same spots. easy to see if there is snow
>>2854965I love finding wolf tracks in the snow
awoooo
Like others have said, they can "in theory" be dangerous, but wolf attacks on humans are extremely rare in North America. Probably 50x less likely than bear attacks, which are already very infrequent. I don't know if there is a record in modern times of an actual predatory wolf attack against human using the sort of premeditated pack hunting tactics that >>2854751 describes, at least in North America. Most attacks are by solitary wolves that have been driven to starvation or are rabid or otherwise sick, or they're in suburban environments and habituated to humans and garbage. The odds of being "hunted" by a pack of wild healthy wolves is like, astronomically unlikely.
>>2855406there was in Alaska about 15yrs ago. Female out jogging- all the other attacks were capative, rabid or habituated to human garbage
I'm gathering ideas for biomes and natural environments. I'd like to know if anyone knows of any natural environment or biome that they find pretty. It could be a description, a picture of nature that you like, anything helps.
>>2854226when I'm picky I pick sites like this.
Me name's Gary. It's also Larry. And Barry. But where we come from it's pronounced Barreh. Moisturised with an S is what I am lad. This is my bi-'ome where I make me 'ouse.
>>2854256
>>2854257DA GREEN LEAF
Temperate rainforest
If there is the best place on the planet to at least visit, then where it is rn>I want to visit it
it was inside of you the whole time
Cleveland, Ohio
>>2855375Akron Ohio >>2855381No
Captain Cook Hawaii. Big island. Scarcely populated. Hunt deer, boar, or chicken year round. No bears, snakes, or mountain lions. Hike swim and camp for free, all over. Big island has almost every biome on the island. Jungle to savannah. Climb a 13er in the morning, eat lunch on the rim of an active volcano, spearfish for dinner. Local ranchers make cheap grass fed beef. Fruit trees everywhere. Best place in the US IMHO. >>In before Hawaii is expensive...It's cheap for locals, expensive for tourists.
What is that thing it has slike really ligyt footsteps i the snow should i run please respond fast guys
>>2855359Idunno OP. It doesn't look good.https://youtu.be/UQmSqrHOhzo?si=j0RsA9kuEeXEaRX4
it's those dudes from the girl who loved tom gordon
>>2855359That's me walking dog, just say hi, nothing to worry about
ok real shit, important questionwhy is photographing wild animals with drones so looked down upon when trail cams are okay?>inb4 hurr noisenigger this isn't 2005, most drones are quiet enough to the point where they can hover 10m over your head and you probably still won't hear it. go ask any slavshit conscripts duking it out in donetsk right now >inb4 animals have keener sensesagain, trailcams. those motherfuckers emit an ungodly amount of IR lights only visible to animals (and other IR cameras i guess) yet no one seems to have any problem with themhigh IQ answers only
>>2855317It says they react to the cameras taking pictures because of the sound and light produced. I tried following links to ones that mention infrared, but they mostly just talk about sound frequencies and practically nothing about how they supposedly detect infrared.It also doesn't say anything about their migration patterns being affected.
You faggots are complaining about drones ruining your /out/ time, yet I have never seen a drone outside of suburbia. Even then, I have only seen drones on very rare occasions. You fags never go /out/.
>>2855331What about people blasting music in nature? This is another thing I see people complain about online but have only experienced it once myself.
>>2854741If you get a high quality one, they make for great air cameras. You can get some wonderful shots. You don't even have to be in any industry, you could just have it for personal use, or upload it to YouTube.
>>2854741>most drones are quietNone of the ones I've seen flown near me are.
>EWG study: Eating one freshwater fish equals a month of drinking ‘forever chemicals’ waterSo am I just not supposed to eat fish anymore? What's the point of even fishing anymore?
>I've been proven correct in hindsight yet againHow do I do it
>>2854941this
>the saltwater fish are poisoned forever>the freshwater fish are poisoned forever
>>2854781Not necessarily. In the eastern USA and Midwest, altitude does nothing as the chemicals are literally aerosols in some regions. Lakes in Arctic Canada and northern Alaska test positive for these chemicals even though they have lower population density than Siberia. This is because the chemicals are literally airborne and riding the Pacific Jetstream from China. The majority of the lower 48 is turbo fucked chemically from both the jetstream chemicals from east Asia and local chemical production and mining and industrial farming for the last 100 years straight. The only streams left in the lower 48 that can actually pull fish that test with zero chemicals are native high elevation trout streams in the mountain west and isolated lakes/streams at high elevation in the PNW. Even some of these waters may still test for industrial chemicals sometimes brought intermittently by the Pacific jetstream from China. And likewise since the Pacific jetstream is the mother jetstream of east Asia, all of north America, and most of Europe, all industrial locations, all of them are broadly polluted to some extent even in actual wilderness. Also in general, fish in the middle/lower part of the food chain may contain less chemicals due to the fact they don't live long and are less piscivorous. In the east these would be fish like bluegill/sunfish. All catfish and bass are fucked in general, even in the mountain west high elevation lakes and rivers. All great lakes fish in general are also fucked because the lakes are too severely polluted that most fish are on micro doses or even high doses of human medications present near shore and in rivers on top of industrial chemicals. The oceans aren't any better and are actually generally worse for larger species in terms of endocrine disrupting chemicals and neurotoxins (Mercury, micro plastics, DDT, OCs, PFCs, TBT/BTs, PFAs), even tuna caught in literal ocean wilderness test positive for most of these. Saltwater farmed is worse.
>>2854649If it's good for the fish, it's good for me.
would a solo alpine winter ascent of K2 without oxygen be a greater feat than free soloing El Capitan?
Reminder that mountaineers are literally losing braincells every time they go after massive peaks that put them above 8000m without bottled oxygen
>>2854448>read this>all the climbers are all huge assholes, litter, steal anything not nailed down, shit all over the place, vandalize anything they can find, fuck everything up as much as they can, scream at eachother for touching a rope, kick rocks down at eachother, blast music and fireworks all nightWow climbing sounds fucking terrible I cant believe people pay thousands for such a shit ass experience
>>2854429>>2854432Positively /favstian/
>>2855037Welcome to most hobbies that require $$$ to do at the high end. Same with Skiing, Snowboarding, Mountaineering, etc.
>>2855037I think sherpas haul all the shit down the mountain these days. That's if you bother to shit in a bag and put it into a dedicated human waste container up there on the mountain.
so when i go out, which is rarely, its usually just a trip to the woods for 1-2hrs.but im interested in day hikes. im not really fit, its more the opposite. im pretty skinny and dont have a lot of strength and stamina, is ultralight gear the way to go for me?i dont plan on sleeping outside, so i dont need a tent.i need a good backpack, shoes and just the regular stuff. actually, i dont really know what i need for day hikes. i guess enough space for food, water and other necessities. budget is 500any recommendations or do i just look up yt and see what they say?
>>2855242>actually, i dont really know what i need for day hikesDepends on your climate and terrain.Weather's fairly mild around me so I easily do an 8h hike with just a 2L hydration pack, a couple of clif bars and a tube of sunblock, regardless of the season.There are other areas where even a 2h hike necessitates carrying comprehensive cold weather gear and an emergency shelter because you never know when a blizzard will unexpectedly roll in and leave you lost or at risk of hypothermia.Where are you likely to be doing most of your hiking?
>>2855244>>2855245thanks!>>2855250middle europe, bavarian forest mostly. its between a temperate climate and a humid continental/hemiboreal climate zone
>>2855242If you are only going out for the day it doesnt matter how much your gear wieghs. You're talking a matter of ounces to a pound or 2 at most difference. Just a backpack big enough to fit food, water, rain jacket, extra layers etc...knife, lighter/matches, TP, etc...https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/topics/camping-and-hiking/best-daypack
Buying ultralight for a dayhike is overkill. Spend the money on some sandwiches and bulk up. What you need is>ShoesOutdoorsy shoes or boots, depends on your terrain mostly. A lanklet may prefer shoes even in heavier terrain. I prefer pure leather as a middle way between waterproof but sweaty (goretex) and airy but not waterproof at all (mesh or fabric). If you only day hike in good weather you can go with the latter. The important thing about a shoe is that it fits your foot. Go to a store, try some. You don't really need to spend much money if you can find some that fit, but spending more is most acceptable on shoes.>ClothesIf you're doing something very exerting (probably not, since you say you don't have stamina) or if you go in rainy weather, you need synthetic or wool clothing. Decent synthetic clothing for base layers (undershirts) and fleeces can be very cheap, check at decathlon for starts but there are many online shops. Wool is for the extra comfy and non-stinky factor, but you don't need that for dayhikes. If you go in good weather and nothing exerting, your day to day cotton clothes will do.>Rain protectionYou can spend a lot of money here... or you get a cheap decathlon waterproof jacket or a poncho from amazon and be done. But if there's a chance of rain, you should bring *something*.>Water 1l/10km is a good baseline. More in hot weather. Buy some bottles at the local supermarket.... or special bottles and fill them with tap water. Whatever.>FoodStarting at 10km you should bring some food.>BackpackSince you don't bring much to begin with, your backpack will not be heavy anyway either. So no need to go ultralight.
>>2855263>I prefer pure leather as a middle way between waterproof but sweaty (goretex) and airy but not waterproof at all (mesh or fabric). If you only day hike in good weather you can go with the latter.Even in poor weather I prefer the latter.Unless you're going all the way with waterproof trousers and gaiters then heavy enough rain will get inside your boots regardless. And even gaiters won't do shit if the trail is flooded.At least fabric boots dry quickly.
fantasy books recommendations?
>>2849507The Kingkiller Chronicles by Patrick RothfussAnything by Brandon Sanderson
>>2849507The Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn trilogy by Tad Williams,
>>2849547>krabat is one of my absolut favourite books.Looks neat. I'm going to check it out.
>>2850754>>2852211botns is great i second it
>crowded af>rocks falling on people's heads>higher death rate than DenaliI'd like to climb a really big mountain but Mont Blanc is certainly not my dream, despite its beuty. Grossglockner is much less suicidal if you have some climbing experience.
>>2852299dat pierced nip poking out
>>2852012I have no motivation to climb a mountain but if I did I would want to climb a dangerous one without many people there. Everest might as well be sponsored by Omega at this point.
>>2853078>>i wish I was at k2 insteadWouldn't Matterhorn be better choice than Mont Blanc for someone who wants to be at k2?
>>2852346can i rent a farmers' donkey for a week and walk around the region with it
>>2852299me in the back
Just ordered the North Face Stormbreak 2. What tent are you rocking? What do you love and hate about it? What tent do you want?
>>2854884I'm very happy with this tent and want no other. If you buy one remember to seam seal it and upgrade the lines with clam cleats for tensioning. you can do without, but there is a ton of lines and it makes it easier.
>>2854886also excellent ventilation with the vent in the pyramid tip. but it takes some training to get the pitching of the tent seams to the ground right, a wee bit of a gap is nice for air circulation, too much and you get a draft in the shelter, especially when you don't use the inner. I only use the bug net inner which was fine up to -7°C at night outside in combination with a good sleeping bag, but there is closed fabric variants too in case you go cold weather camping and need a real two wall tent.
>>2827319Wallshart tent held together with duck tape mostly for car or canoe camping, and bug season. By myself and no bugs, a hammock or sometimes just a rainfly like this >>2827348 or under the stars if the weather is good
>>2854755>>2854756Pretty nice. Got any windbreak + tent?
>>2854450>Snugpak ionosphereThe condensation in these things is unreal.
I’m a complete novice in trekking, but I’m planning to do the Huemul circuit in a month. Every blog I read on the internet says it’s not suited to beginners, but I’m planning on going on the high season and tagging along with people if I think I’m going to get lost and stuff. I’m also training my endurance and stamina by going up the stairs in my apartment building with a backback. Any tips on other training and how to navigate this trail?
>>2854688carry 120lbs of gear on you*
>>2854600Can I just gain 120lbs instead
>>2854760yeah if it's mostly muscle and then you still need to carry 120lbs worth of gear
>>2854600isn't 120lbs of weight too much to carry? For reference, I'm 156lbs and calculated that, at the start of the trek, I would carry around 45lbs. What do I need that weights so much?
>>2855147Of course you can start with 45lbs. But you have to add more weight later on. When you are tired that 45lb bags feels like 80lb bag. You will develop better leg muscles and stamina by training with heavier bag. You need that with long hikes
Is there anything I should know to deal with winter conditions hiking? I've never been hiking with a significant amount of snow or ice, but am planning to do some in January in the Appalachians around VA, WV, MD, and/or PA.
>>2855018>You'll be hard pressed to find any mountain hikes with < 500' of gainreeeeeeeeeeeeI'm sure there's something, and if not there, in the immediate surroundings that's nice (I am not open to the Adirondacks).
>>2855021On one of my Catskills trips, I poked around Mine Kill State Park between more serious hikes. That's an option for less strenuous trails.
>>2854993That's a good point, I like peanut M&Ms for snacking and buffalo chicken sandwiches for lunch, with lots of blue cheese dressing. I always have a huge breakfast before leaving though.>>2855000>Do you carry a huge bag?nta, but I make do with a 24l bag for most trips, sometimes I step up to 35 though.
>>2855046Forgot to add, if you're buying gear a backpack should be the last thing you get. Buy it in person and bring all the rest of your gear in with you to make sure it packs well. Most reputable outdoors retailers will help you adjust and fit a pack as well.
>>2854662>am planning to do some in January in the Appalachians around VA, WV, MD, and/or PA.yeah you're cooked buddy
