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I'm moving to Massachusetts soon, what /out/ activities are there? Franklin county especially.
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>>1342182

Fuck that's a lotta blood.
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>>1343174
The water makes it look worse than it is. That's probably a couple of pints at most.
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>>1343204

Still don't want them to be MY pints. Jeezus
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Pretty sure outdoor activities are illegal in MA or at the very least heavily regulated and/or taxed.
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>>1340052
Pioneer Valley is one of the most beautiful places in the state desu

how far north could I live in Canada without dying?
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>>1342537
Northern Europe has a far more moderate climate because of the lack of sea ice and the fact that it's further south.
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>>1342921
This. All these fucking shootings bruh what's going on
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>>1343661
>All these fucking shootings bruh what's going on
shootings in toronto and vancouver are nothing new, in fact they are way down. just no one gave a shit when they were targeted even if a bystander got hit.
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>>1341183
based
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>>1341184
Northern suburb of Toronto

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Hey,

Anyone who could help me out with this infograph?

In regards to level 5, the soft shell jacket and pants. What kind of jackets and pants are these? My experience with soft shell is that it's not very wind protective at all, nor water resistant. Are these available in the civillian market?

I live in Norway and go hunting/hiking a lot during winter (from 0 to -22 fahrenheit), and we usually just use goretex clothing with netting and wool underneath. Great wind and water protection. The goretex can freeze though, and that's a downside. It should be more moisture wicking.

Enlighten me on the soft shell usability.

And what the hell is level 4???
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Level 4 is a double layer soft shell jacket.
Level 5 is most likely a tripple layer soft shell jacket, of some material.
Level 6 isn't goretex unless they refer to internal padding.
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>>1343657
Ayyy, I was issued parts of this over time. Its a damn good "uniform" in my eyes, had good luck with every part (though I've never used Level 4 except as a uniform top). If you layer it right and have the right footwear it's the only clothing you need in the field. The whole "system" was originally all civilian made and sold via contract to the Military. The designs all have civilian counterparts that can be bought easily, or you could shell the big bucks on Ebay, but I don't know of that would be worth it when you can get most of the same thing from Colombia, minus the military features (like velcro for nametapes and patches).

Level 5 is a Beyond or Patagonia (these were the ones I've seen issued) soft shell jacket and pants. They breath well, dry very quickly, and are pretty rain and wind resistant, but not completely waterproof. This is what I wore the most, it replaced our cammies while in the field and were far more comfy. I own civi LL Bean and Patagonia softshell pants that are basically the same thing. Layer the fleece and silikies underneath and it's good down to 15F - 25F I'd say. Highly recommend it, but this seems to be the most expensive one for you if you aren't issued it. Also the sleeves have velcro for our patches, which may be a turn off for you.

That's probably one of the best options for you. However, I recommend something that breathes a little better than the goretex for when it isn't raining. The second we don't need it, we remove our goretex to protect it from tears and to allow our skin to breath. That's why I liked the softshell so much. In your environment however, the softshell wouldn't do much good other than to keep the snow and wind away from your insulation layers. Instead, I recommend something like the Level 7 Parka and pants. That shit is warm, especially with silikies(level 1), the waffles (level 2) and fleece (level 3) plus cammies. I've never never needed all that, but I've never worked in -22 F.
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>>1343657
To continue, I recommend you try fleece and Primaloft (or something similar) as opposed to using the Goretex as a permanent out layer. Only problem with the Level 7 and similar jackets is they tear easily in sharp branches or on rocks. Something to keep in mind.

As for the level 4, >>1343752 has is right. It's a very light softshell, like a windbreaker that repels a light rain. I've only ever used this when I ran out of uniform tops, it's really good for hot and dry environments with light showers on a occasion. Layered of the fleece and it does a good job in colder temps.

>>1343752
Negative on the level 6 my dude, there's only one layer, and it's the goretex with a camouflage "finish" on the outside.

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What shortwave radio do you bring with you when you go /out/? Tecsun PL-380 for me, love to do some DXing in the woods.
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I've had a CC Skywave for a while now, it's a fine radio.
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>>1342155
I've heard a lot of good things about the CC Skywave, do you have the AM or SSB model?
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Looking at the Tecsun 600.Anyone have an exp with it? Its 60 right now on ebay.I just wanna tune into some shortwave stations while I fish
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Only listen to VOTRW
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be honest, reviewbrah got you into this, didn't he?

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followed first multipitch over the weekend at seneca rocks. going to practice single pitch mixed routes this weekend. tips?
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had a great time climbing today, 3hrs. starting to progress more - v4's and hard v3's are becoming easier and i'm putting moves together quicker. gonna go to lee peak in mt. charleston this saturday to hike and climb a little i think. been watching masters of stone and can't wait to do some more climbing.
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>be relatively new climber
>been to a number of different gyms and climb pretty solidly at 5.8
>go to new gym
>sending multiple 5.10- all over the place
>even climb a 5.11
>realize that the route setter sets the grade
>all the previous gyms were graded by the climbers
>all the grades at the gym are screwy as fuck
Why do they do this?
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>>1341512
shitty routesetters and/or gym being soft to make gumbys feel good about themselves
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Anyone been out in the high sierras during late or early season? Really thinking of getting randonee skiis
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>>1343055
i think im going in a few weeks, but don't know too much about it. gonna climb middle palisade with my buddy - it's his route he's working out.

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Without falling prey to gimmicks or being tacticool, what are some good things for me to stuff inside a small tin as a "don't fucking die" kit?

Just enough to help me survive a day or two against exposure, thirst and/or being lost.
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>>1343230

It's not waterproof.
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>>1341427
Yeah but my favorite /out/ places have zero signal.
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>>1343249
I do and you should be, but you know damn well 99% of people on this board are ultraliberal citycucks terrified of anything "weapon"like.
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bic lighter
uco survival matches
salt and honey packets from chick-fil-a
any medication that you might take
pocket knife


I had fun making an altoids kit. But I realized that I don't really need it. Already have snacks, compass, shit like that anyway. I just take some extra fire stuff in a watertight container.

If you are really thinking about getting a candle, 6hr and 12hr candles from exotac are awesome. But don't buy any of their other shit.

>>1341453
>your idea is stupid
>get the same stuff I bought
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>>1341967
You may have to make concessions on something like a blanket.
Personally I'd think a tin kit should be reserved for the ten thousand useful things you'll want to supplement an emergency. Twines, lighters, etc.
Have you considered a slightly larger tin? lol. maybe two.

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burger in victoria going to mec for the first time tomorrow. any advice?
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>>1343609
thanks, too.
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Honestly just steal it, just a mug no big deal
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>>1343579
Go back home and hit up REI, MEC sucks balls the last 15 years and it's only getting worse.

The membership fee is because of the laws governing co-ops in BC where they're incorporated, it's out of their control, but everything else about the place is bullshit. Their house brand products are crap compared to the same thing 10 years ago (never mind 20 years ago before they stopped making stuff in Canada and started slapping their logo on chinkshit) and they're often the most expensive place in town for a given item in spite of their ostensibly being a non-profit. And they keep selling more women's lifestyle clothing and less serious outdoor gear for either sex.
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>>1343579
>>1343607
>hipster cred
you are about 25 years too late
MEC quality used to be top notch but it has taken a steady nosedive to lulu lemon tier in the past few years.
If you want the logo pay the $5 or just get someone to buy it for you.
I got my membership years ago but now only shop there after price checking against Atmosphere and Princess Auto. I find I'm going to MEC less and less, and the shit I bought 20 years ago still holds up but the shit I bought in the past 10 years wears out fast
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>>1343645
see >>1343607. but thanks for letting me know it's not a graft.

>>1343669
i figure it wouldn't carry any weight in canada, but i have literally never seen a mec product in the us.

i saw mugs in the window of anián yesterday. i'm going to check their price instead.

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i just bought a Black Diamond Beta Light. very excited to take it /out/. it's light, packs down into nearly nothing, is quite cheap, and it's spacious. i can't wait to go snow camping and build a dope fortress around it.

it doesn't come seam-sealed but i bought some and will be sealing it asap.

does anybody have any experience with the beta light? good or bad? tell me if i've made a huge mistake
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Sounds fucking sweet for playing in the snow. Make sure to let us know when you try it out
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>>1343402

I'm not a big fan of Black Diamond gear. I find that most of their gear wears too quickly in the field. I have gear that lasted the entirety of the AT and none of it was from black diamond.
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>>1343599
what bd products did you use? none of the bad reviews i've seen are about durability; most are small complaints about condensation management

What do they actually offer that cheaper models don't? I've had $200 kayaks and they work great, and it's a kayak so I can't imagine there are many extra features right? Is there any reason to get a $900 kayak or are they just a scam?
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Higher quality material.

Feel a $300 Walmart kayak then feel a $1,300 Jackson kayak. One feels like a Tupperware bowl and the other feels like dense thick could take a swift beating in the rapids.

Also the features and hull design. Some of the more expensive kayaks are wider and have higher weight capacities, with large cargo areas for multi day trips. Some have live wells. Some are tandem for 2 people. Etc.

I paid $1,100 for my kayak and never regret it. It’s wide and stable enough for me to stand up and throw a casting net. It has ample storage for my camping/backpacking gear. And the seat doesn’t make my whole lower body numb after 20 minutes of sitting in it.

Just 2 weeks ago we went on a 3 day trip kayaking down the river fishing and camping. I couldn’t imagine doing that in a $300 Kayak that can’t even float around our pond for 2 hours without having a sore back and numb legs.
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>>1343507
That, looks like my Necky rip.
I have had a few kayaks from 8.6' to 9' and now my Necky Rip 12' kayak and they are all fun, but the difference is size, quality, and extras.
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>>1343507
There is a huge difference, but only when you start looking at fibreglass sea kayaks and subsequently end up spending big $.

You can build a SOF sea kayak with minimal tools, skills and for quite cheap, free designs like that of Tom Yost are very good also.
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>>1343507
Track better, more comfortable-this being said if you can only afford a crappy one then buy a crappy one, you’ll still have fun.
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>>1343507
Mine was $1700 cad because I am sending it down some pretty big rapids and I need it to be able to withstand the pressure.

Feel free to post tobaccos (no weed allowed), pipes, collections, pics of favorite combos for going /out/, pics of what you're doing with your pipe and any questions you might have.

Want to get into smoking pipes without spending too much cash?
Get a Missouri Meerschaum Legend corncob pipe and a pouch of either Prince Albert, Carter Hall or Half and Half tobacco, available at most drugstores.
What you'll need: pipe, tobacco, lighter or matches, pipe cleaners, and either a regular old nail or a pipe tool (combination tamper, scoop, and small pick).
All of these together should run you less than $20.

Having trouble keeping your pipe lit? Fill it with less tobacco and smoke it slower than you think you need to, lightly tamping as needed when the smoke starts thinning out.
If you're still having trouble, try filling your pipe this way:
https://youtu.be/0XHYPso7TXs

Old thread >>1282306
Come on in and get comfy.
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>>1343122
It doesn't take a huge stretch of the imagination to see how a pipe smoker might start a fire. It's about discouraging careless people when the risk is very high. If a careless smoker sees a careful smoker he's going to think that there is no risk of smoking when there is a fire risk.
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>>1343217
>that image
my soul
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>>1343293
So better to preemptively punish the responsible smoker in case an irresponsible one behaves irresponsibly, right?

That Yuropoor mentality is why you're in such a shitty state today.
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I've been smoking a pipe for 2 years and the only way I can see someone starting a fire with a pipe is if they have a light with a massive flame and they're right under a tree branch and they're swinging it around like a madman. The fire in a pipe is self-contained. It isn't a lit end.

Parks and forests are my favourite places to smoke.
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Cool wheater vane spottet

>that 30 year old boomer who still skis
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>needs a machine to drag his fat ass up a mountain
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>>1340364
>>>r/blacked
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There is a lot of white privilege to be critically examined in skiing. With only so much skiing resources to go around white folks should lay off it until others get a piece of the cake.
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>>1338983
Ultra fagot?
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>>1343510
Bad bait

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Has anyone ever killed a duck in a public park? Most mornings I take a walk through a nearby park and there are always a lot of ducks up there. They have no fear of humans, and every morning I want to grab one to bring home for the oven. It's illegal to do this but at 6am there aren't many people up there to see me. My biggest worry is that some hiker will record me and put it on youtube, but like I said this probably won't happen at that time of day. My plan would be to walk over to the lake shore, grab the duck, quickly slice it's head off with a hunting knife, stuff the carcass into a bag, and get the fuck out of there.
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>>1342661
lol he's a farmer
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>>1342792
In your opinion, what's the best bird (and quantity) for a small subsistence farm that could feed 4 people? Probably being raised in conjunction with goats or sheep.
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>>1342275
It's not better, at all. If people went around parks to fuck up some ducks, there would be not any ducks around. It doesn't take that many people to kill wildlife to make them completely extinct. There is reason why hunting wildlife without permits is punished hard by law.
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>>1343557

Variety is the spice of life. Diversify some.

Chickens are great, ducks are great, geese are almost great.

What it really comes down to isn't so much type of bird, but breed and management style. The big question is replacing birds. Do you want to incubate the eggs for replacement, do you want the birds to hatch out their own replacements, or will you just buy replacements?

I'm going to list breeds in the order of
>chickens
>ducks
>geese
Please note that you don't have to get only this breed, they are just some of what I would want



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>>1342250
You will go to prison for poaching, it is serious, it will probably fuck your life

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SHOW ME YOUR BEST BACKPACK!
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>>1317557
FILBE assault pack
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>>1341239
>humiliate the terrain
Underrated post.
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>>1314355
He has 36 cans of mtn dew, 6 extension cords, a bottle of tide, and you think his knives are unusual?
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>>1299734
>baitcasters
reallynigga
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>>1341325
Like $50 on Sportmans guide rn

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Has anyone ever built anything like this? I have 145 acres of land and I want to build something like this, mostly just for fun. I'm planning something similar to pic related but cheaper and less fancy.
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Not OP. I've been looking at some of the cheapest cabins with lots of land. A lot of run-down ones, but with fantastic 100+yrs old wood you can reuse to make it actually comfy.

In some of the cases I'm even convinced you could turn a profit on buying the land+cabin, selling the wood piecemeal for upper middle class people's floorboard, etc needs and then have free land on top of it.

Too bad I'm a social anxiety neet, can't do shit.
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>>1343670
Mock hardwood flooring with laminate or vinyl is the new thing now. Cheaper and less maintenance. My grandparents make $200K a year and didn’t even want hardwood floors when they redid their home.

You’d be better off buying super cheap raw land, buying a sawmill, and building a house yourself. Nobody wants it. You have to pay companies to come clear your forest these days and chippings are given away or dumped off at land fills. People don’t appreciate what god put on this plant naturally anymore. They’d rather support corporations and their factories.
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>>1343702
>Mock hardwood flooring with laminate or vinyl is the new thing now. Cheaper and less maintenance.
Should have mentioned I'm in Norway. Laminate is considered the bottom tier (vinyl only for certain utility rooms in a cheap cabin or govt building), everyone wants real wood, and top kroners go to the genuine antique stuff.
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>>1343711
But I'm 100% certain there's a big market for antique wood in USA as well + your upper class would pay even more for it.
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>>1343385
Depending on the country you might be able to avoid building codes by keeping it under a certain size, where I am you can do most anything you want if you keep it under 200 ft squared

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>Being american and not doing at least one thru hike in your lifetime
Explain yourselves
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>>1339490
What's a thru hike
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>>1339520
>Having in account the US economy that's a couple three months of savings if you have a somewhat decent job
Maybe if you live with your mom
>As for shape it's literally walking
turns out, it's not
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>>1342508
You could do it if you really tried, you know. No need to be bitter. Most people have to plan and save for years. I thnk that's your problem. You can't do it RIGHT NOW, so you are all bitter about it.
Plus, you're probably scared that you will fail. My little brother had a problem with that. Nobody can make fun of me for failing if I never try to begn with. Right?
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>>1342802
>skills
These basically will comprise of being comfy with your gear, basic snow travel, and river crossings. The last two are only an issue if it's a high snow year. Other than that apps like guthook have made the PCT simpler than it was.
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>>1343636
>Maybe if you live with your mom
A bad thing? I told my parents that for the next 3 years I want to focus completing my bucket list of long trails and asked them if it would be ok if I moved back while I did it so I could save for hiking and continue saving for a house. They welcomed me back and fully supported my decision. So now not only do I have years of awesome /out/ing a head of me but I haven't sacrificed my saving power. Plus I get to spend a bunch of time with my family who I love. Thanks mom and dad. Being self employed also helps hugely.



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