For no reason in particular other than my own interest, I need to know what the perfect "survival card(s)" would be.What tools would you be very fucked to be without, &/or would want an excess of during a survival situation?They have to be the to be the length, width, and general thickness of a standard credit card though; needs to fit in a wallet.A magnifying lens card is of course a given (same with a tick remover), but what would be useful on a laser-cut metal card?Would a saw be useful? I see other sets with snares, but I don't feel like a fishing kit would be too useful.
>>2854458I have a couple of those too but I cut myself once when sliding it out of my wallet on the can opener corner and switched to the plain bottle opener since that's the only part I ever used.
>>2854333If you are good at fishing and want a cool pocket took these can be fun. If you have a very basic idea of fishing than these are mostly useless. I mean they aren't bad buy the Altoids can survival cans have been worked on for decades and they arnt mostly fishing gear. I mean fuck I have no clue how to properly use most this shit.... Properly being the key word.
>>2854461>Properly being the key word.yeah, that seems to be the big issue with a lot of the items; and even if you knew, theres the issue of efficacity most of the little bits & bobs are very flimsy, and would be outclassed by a carved stick; if they were thicker & made of a stronger steel, they'd be much more useful, but they're notif you had all the time in the world, a use can be found with most of the things of course; if you're counting the minutes to a meal, spending you moments fiddling with sheet metal is just gonna get you killedon account of that, i feel like snares would be a useful tool, since they're basically instant food; fishing implements don't seem worth it when you can just make a basic fish trap
>>2854461Not to mention some of these need a slight added bind in them to make them more work properly. Fun for a fishermen if cheap tackle wasn't already more affordable these little sheets. I already fish out of an old dip can and if I am cutting my bait than that is enough to catch anything.
>>2854463The idea is making little tools into big tools. Even if I can perfectly use my fishing tackle I need to makeshift a rod, attach the like properly. That is just up to the point of hooking the fish after that you still need a lot more tools. If you don't believe me look at how picky people are about filet knives.
What is the thinnest /out/ glove technology available today?
>>2846972Something like this
>>2846972https://ozerogloves.com/product/ozero-9002/Found these on a bike trail. They are my idea shittly done: wetsuit material (neoprene) but too thin. And like some are saying, sweat is a problem. I put some mickey mouse cotton gloves as liners, but somehow colder than cotton alone. Gonna end up making mittens put of ace back support brace....like mfers are playing piano in winter weather......WHERE THE FUCK ARE ALL THE MITTENS?https://ozerogloves.com/product/ozero-9002/
I did some research, and apparently those weird fucks up north use a mesh base layer. Maybe that plus latex over it solves the problem? The mesh should wick the moisture away, while the holes provide air isolation. The latex traps the air. All still very thin. Just needs some ultra-thin layer over this so it doesn't look like I work at Subways.
>>2854218Thats outdoor guy who's wife just got sick, that was the subject of his last vid. Someone finally had my idea. It doesn't wick shit. Its all about boundary layer. And windproof layer off the skin just traps air. Mesh allows that. Those polyester vapor protocol gauze coveralls they use in hospitals will boil your alive, but the are virtually nothing. Its also a other layer on scrubs. So just another layer, any layer, has air sticking to it as a fluid. All insulation is about trapping air (or a vacuum).
>>2854218>Son, I've seen the clothes you buy for your "hikes in the woods">Is there something you want to tell us?
I'm in a psych unit but when I get out I'll be staying with grandparents in a property in the woods. It has a river, dams, losts of trees. I want to do some "prepping" and learn outdoors skills, perhaps have a bug out bag and set up some outdoors shelter and fireplace. Any cool tips or advice?
>>2852919get a cheap 900ml pot and a brs-3000 knockoff from aliexpress or similar (or fashion yourself a diy alcohol stove). Go on walks in the woods and stop for a tea / coffee. Having 'go to place X and have a tea there' is much better as an activity than just walking there and back. Use this to map out the woods slowly. The human brain likes having a goal/reward and this is an easy one. You can get set up for like $20. I like the chinese titanium camp pots that are available now. they get very cheap on sale and are very light for carrying in a small backpack.
Consider this, the Donner party ventured into the Sierra Nevada mountains with no knowledge of the land, with not enough food to last but a month or two. Got snowbound and starved, eating the saddles from their horses and some ultimately eating their own dead. But all the while they were surrounded by Miwok Indians who were not preppers, but people who deeply understood the land and all its inhabitants in that area. They didn’t “survive” there, they simply there with the resources the land provided. Well, in one sense they were preppers in that they did, like the squirrels and other animals they prepared for the long cold months by caching food during the warmer months. They had a good store of dried fish, acorn, pinyon nut, and other foods. Like people who rely on wood heat today, they had a store of firewood and they stayed toasty warm in their small conical houses, in many cases insulated with thick tule mats and warmed by a small fire, all the while wrapped in their thick rabbit skin blankets. Consider also the story of Ishi, the last known wild Indian who stumbled out of the woods half starved because just before winter set in, a group of white trappers came upon their hidden homes, took all their food, and even took the rabbit skin blankets! I see prepping as knowing how to return to the old ways. Yes you should have some things stocked, but more importantly you should have the knowledge and the tools to live off the land in the area of the world you find yourself in. I myself live in the southern Sierra Nevada. I know the cycle of life that people once followed here; I know what was harvested when. and I count among my friends people whose ancestors lived here for ten thousand years before the Europeans came.
>>2853322To cut this anons blatherings down, befriend some injuns so you can mooch off them when SHTF
Don't forget to bring a towel and a change of underwear and extra socks.
>>2853111Your hypothetical "bubba" is also a devout Christian in 9/10 cases. Don't be so pretentious.
What's the best backpacking location in Europe?
>>2853091cause the AT is backpacking everything is is downhill of that idea. its the hippie experience every normie wants, if anyone of those people went on a real wilderness trip they'd go insane just from having to be alone.
>>2853071ah another finland thread very nice
>>2853188what if you're already too lonely in your daily life and need to take every chance at socializing in order not to go insane ?(asking for a friend)
>>2853190That's the AT. What do you think the shelters are for?
>>2853071either france or norway, depend what you look for
Is it possible to hike in North Korea? It's mountain ranges are basically prime backpacking territory and peaceful solitude.
>>2854412Yes, the fat pig desperately needs dollerinos. Hence they are rebranding themselves as a tpurist destination. It works easy for the chinese and is already popular there. After all they have one thing: Untouched nature. Because they have nothing to touch it with. Qesterners can also go and they will go to great lengths to satisfy your particular wishes. But you will always have a guide with you and you will have to go on the official tour, see the capital, monuments, museums and stuff.
why does it seem like all you people want to go out and be “in le nature” but don’t give a single fuck about preserving ecosystems or native biodiversity? You feel entitled to go out and be in nature and treat it like your personal fucking playground, damaging the ecosystem and demanding roads and trails be paved through the wilderness so you can “heckin enjoy it”? And then go home and continue to fuel the 6th mass extinction with your destructive consumerist habits? Anyway, I planted some Texas native wildflowers today to help the declining pollinator population in my area. What did you do?
>>2852409They dont, go to any rez, or just read Ed Abby
People who identify as conservationists are generally liberals trying to gate keep access to public land. Nobody likes trash, we all clean it up, but those guys are always trying to claim some kind of authority and go around acting like cops, like doing three work we all do entitles them to act like cops. Strong crossover between that and damaging crops, trespass on farmland, planting native plants where they don't belong, running around with cameras, interfering with hunting and forestry.
>>2841954people are shitbags. thank you anon.
>>2837495Tragedy of the commons, mixed with some he attitude that somebody else will take care of it.
>>2852702then act like it.
What are some /out youtubers that i can watch and learn from
>>2846171>>2851484C'mon. Don't get your biology education from YouTube.
>>2846218This is genuinely weird as fuck.
>>2846349>everything must be coomfuck off
>>2851997It really is. She's got thousands of views too somehow?
>>2850473why
Where can I go out in Texas besides Big Bend? I am from upstate New York so am used to the Adirondacks.
>>2854305Meh. Who isn't these days? I'm not a politically active sort and I don't particularly give a shit about the struggles of other tribes because they aren't my people. I don't give a fuck about them. I'm just telling you what happened when the Coushatta came to Texas, if you're trying to anger me about something or other you're barking up the wrong tree. We weren't enslaved (at that time, as far as I'm aware), we owned slaves, and said fuck this shit let's go to Texas like many other people did in those days and we kinda fit right in. Hell, in Jim Crow days what people would do is slip the doc some cash to write "White" on the birth certificate because in those days that was important. Nowadays people lie and say they're Native. You do what you have to do, not my place to judge and I wouldn't even if it were. That's life.
>>2854306Well yes of course that's why you're people sided with the Texans. Because the whole revolt was about slavery.I'm a Texan through and through. And I love our history and the coushatta history. But the reason it took almost a month for the Alamo to fall is because Santa Anna was off putting down another slave holder rebellion in the north of Mexico. Everyone was rebelling against Santa Anna at that exact time because he just made slavery illegal in Mexico. I despise Santa Anna for many many reasons. But he did free all slaves.
>>2854307Goddamn you're a whiny faggot. No wonder you're on this board, you need to touch some grass. I dunno if you're black or brown but you need to stop making that you're entire identity or you're gonna go insane.
>>2854319Lol imagine a red man calling you whiny. These niggers never invented the wheel and got beaten at every turn and still claim supremacy. Where was a whining tonto?
>>2854305>watching youtube to learn history
>crowded af>rocks falling on people's heads>higher death rate than DenaliI'd like to climb a really big mountain but Mont Blanc is certainly not my dream, despite its beuty. Grossglockner is much less suicidal if you have some climbing experience.
>>2852739>they probably never heard of real alpinism>i wish I was at k2 instead >my feet hurt
>>2852299dat pierced nip poking out
>>2852012I have no motivation to climb a mountain but if I did I would want to climb a dangerous one without many people there. Everest might as well be sponsored by Omega at this point.
>>2853078>>i wish I was at k2 insteadWouldn't Matterhorn be better choice than Mont Blanc for someone who wants to be at k2?
>>2852346can i rent a farmers' donkey for a week and walk around the region with it
I've lived in a city all my life. For a year I did live in a smaller town in a valley and got bored pretty quickly, because my idea of fun is walking around town and seeing stuff there. I don't know what I'm supposed to do in the countryside for fun. I can fish and the only hiking I've done is just on woodland trails in the city. I wouldn't know what land /out/ there is public or private, what I'm supposed to do once I'm there, what else I'm supposed to do on a hike other than walk, I'm not interested in hunting. I've never been camping before but I'm open to it. How do I appreciate the outdoors more?
>>2852661just enjoy new things you haven't see before
>>2853404Yea, I prefer being alone. I do like to sit by the river often and just look at it. But I didn't know if there's more to the outdoors that I was missing out on. I'm just trying to get an idea of what people do.
>>2852661honestly a big appeal of the outdoors is because it's a refuge for those who are sick and tired of the city life, regardless of its glitz and glam. so yeah if you still find city life appealing i don't think outdoor stuffs is for you yetdon't force yourself, OP
>>2852661>what else I'm supposed to do on a hike other than walkrelax and enjoy the viewchat with people you meetrelax and enjoy the soundssnacksrelax and enjoy the smellphotographypretty animals
>>2852661>I wouldn't know what land /out/ there is public or privateI'm not sure where you live, but your government should have a digital atlas you can check if you're specifically looking for certain kinds of private/public land. Where I am this is useful beyond just going to managed parks, if you're looking for somewhere there's less likely to be people (at least if it's not hunting season).>How do I appreciate the outdoors more?You said yourself that you've never been camping, that can be a good way to get into it. Start with something like car camping that's easy. Personally, I also like to have something "to do" when I'm going in the bush, rather than just hanging around a campsite. Some things you can try are: - Birding, you didn't mention this, but a classic outdoors special interest. - Mushroom identification (go with your local mycology group). Or other foraging. - Fishing. Try different styles/species: salmon fishing is very different from walleye fishing. Some people love ice fishing but aren't as into regular fishing. - Hiking can be good because you have a goal and you can do different routes and keep changing things up (distance, elevation change, speed, location).
I'm gathering ideas for biomes and natural environments. I'd like to know if anyone knows of any natural environment or biome that they find pretty. It could be a description, a picture of nature that you like, anything helps.
>>2851440Idk why but I find in dense fir and pine woods the ground is so fucking nice becauae you get that thick lush moss. That doesn't seem to work too well on birch forests, as they mulch everything but birch to death. In fall and winter thats fine but otherwise rotten leaves isn't my favourite ground. Don't get me started on fruit bearing trees in summer or autumn, stuff just falls, starts to ferment and reek and also attract all sorts of bugs.
>>2854226when I'm picky I pick sites like this.
Me name's Gary. It's also Larry. And Barry. But where we come from it's pronounced Barreh. Moisturised with an S is what I am lad. This is my bi-'ome where I make me 'ouse.
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>>2854257DA GREEN LEAF
Sup /out/, went camping (at a wilderness campsite) recently to try out some winter gear. Sleeping bag, sleeping pad, and the rewaterproofing on my tent held up really well. One issue I had, was that while there were plenty of big logs available, there was no tinder or kindling and I had to use my swiss army knife to baton massive pieces of firewood to start a fire. This was fucking atrocious work and I realise I need a good fixed blade knife. Now I've got it in my head to get a big knife or a hatchet, picrel is available in a very decent 6 inch blade and this beauty of a 10 inch blade. As much as I know 6 inch is probably fine, my gorilla brain is telling me to get this big fucking thing, then I don't even need a hatchet and can carry the SKA for small tasks/multitool. Convince me otherwise before I drop serious money on this thing.
>>2853387All of them. With a knife, you can fight anything.
>>2853603i'd like to fight a bull with a knife how bout you
Buck 119
It sounds cumbersome but I use to travel with a big mace and it was exceptional at shattering logs into fire wood. One or two swings was usually enough to make a full stack.
>>2850852do you have a knife that works? then don't buy a new one. use the one you have until it breaks. quit buying shit, what are you a woman
Been a while since we've had an EDC thread.What are some things you always carry with you? Got any new gear recently? Knife? Flashlight? Tactical spork?I've been wanting to put together a little edc first aid kit, not like my actual hiking first aid kit, just smaller things I might need on the day to day. But I havnt really settled on a pouch yet, or, if I should get a small plastic tupperware container because it's waterproof and I hear things like bandaids can get roughed up pretty easily in a pouch
>>2834942nobody in this thread mentioned the fact that this is a airsoft suppressor on an airsoft replica, SSP18 if i had to guess. both by novritsch
>>2835377Missing a phillips screwdriver.This is the one I carry and I find it very useful.
>>2837104What the fuck is this bit for
>>2854200https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAJV2va9V9AFor when this song comes on, so you don't break a nail.
>>2854219>]Even the ultra-mainstream shit was better than now. Not bad.
Why haven't you gone winter camping yet this season /out/?What, are you scared of a little cold?
>>2853974See>>2853988I'm not a homeless American, living the "van-life" (homelessness).
>>2848380I've been meaning to since it's been a few years and I just bought a new 0F sleeping bag. How do you cope with boredom, especially since the darkness sets in so soon, and being scared of the dark?>don't drink
>>2848380>be bong>dartmoor? exmoor?>what's the point?
It's been raining for 2 weeks straight here.Yesterday with the heavy cloud and fog was the darkest day I can ever remember. Even at high noon it looked like almost nught
>>2854036I'm rather about (you) being able to span a mental bridge between motoring and camping.I mean semantically it's not wrong, if you stay in a camp are camping, regardless of how you got there.But it just wont cure the gay.
Asking for a friend
>>2854026Yes>>2854028I'm not asian I am just really short
>>2854041Brugly, you're midge status. You are definitely Asian or Hispanic.
>>2854123White midgets do exist.but they are all pink on the inside.
>>2854167Sorry we had an opening for a white midget but Peter Dinklage already took it
>>2854170more like we had 7+ openings, but dinky guilted the white women into switching to the rainbow hobo coalition, then double ass CGI.
