ok real shit, important questionwhy is photographing wild animals with drones so looked down upon when trail cams are okay?>inb4 hurr noisenigger this isn't 2005, most drones are quiet enough to the point where they can hover 10m over your head and you probably still won't hear it. go ask any slavshit conscripts duking it out in donetsk right now >inb4 animals have keener sensesagain, trailcams. those motherfuckers emit an ungodly amount of IR lights only visible to animals (and other IR cameras i guess) yet no one seems to have any problem with themhigh IQ answers only
>>2855317It says they react to the cameras taking pictures because of the sound and light produced. I tried following links to ones that mention infrared, but they mostly just talk about sound frequencies and practically nothing about how they supposedly detect infrared.It also doesn't say anything about their migration patterns being affected.
You faggots are complaining about drones ruining your /out/ time, yet I have never seen a drone outside of suburbia. Even then, I have only seen drones on very rare occasions. You fags never go /out/.
>>2855331What about people blasting music in nature? This is another thing I see people complain about online but have only experienced it once myself.
>>2854741If you get a high quality one, they make for great air cameras. You can get some wonderful shots. You don't even have to be in any industry, you could just have it for personal use, or upload it to YouTube.
>>2854741>most drones are quietNone of the ones I've seen flown near me are.
>EWG study: Eating one freshwater fish equals a month of drinking ‘forever chemicals’ waterSo am I just not supposed to eat fish anymore? What's the point of even fishing anymore?
>I've been proven correct in hindsight yet againHow do I do it
>>2854941this
>the saltwater fish are poisoned forever>the freshwater fish are poisoned forever
>>2854781Not necessarily. In the eastern USA and Midwest, altitude does nothing as the chemicals are literally aerosols in some regions. Lakes in Arctic Canada and northern Alaska test positive for these chemicals even though they have lower population density than Siberia. This is because the chemicals are literally airborne and riding the Pacific Jetstream from China. The majority of the lower 48 is turbo fucked chemically from both the jetstream chemicals from east Asia and local chemical production and mining and industrial farming for the last 100 years straight. The only streams left in the lower 48 that can actually pull fish that test with zero chemicals are native high elevation trout streams in the mountain west and isolated lakes/streams at high elevation in the PNW. Even some of these waters may still test for industrial chemicals sometimes brought intermittently by the Pacific jetstream from China. And likewise since the Pacific jetstream is the mother jetstream of east Asia, all of north America, and most of Europe, all industrial locations, all of them are broadly polluted to some extent even in actual wilderness. Also in general, fish in the middle/lower part of the food chain may contain less chemicals due to the fact they don't live long and are less piscivorous. In the east these would be fish like bluegill/sunfish. All catfish and bass are fucked in general, even in the mountain west high elevation lakes and rivers. All great lakes fish in general are also fucked because the lakes are too severely polluted that most fish are on micro doses or even high doses of human medications present near shore and in rivers on top of industrial chemicals. The oceans aren't any better and are actually generally worse for larger species in terms of endocrine disrupting chemicals and neurotoxins (Mercury, micro plastics, DDT, OCs, PFCs, TBT/BTs, PFAs), even tuna caught in literal ocean wilderness test positive for most of these. Saltwater farmed is worse.
>>2854649If it's good for the fish, it's good for me.
would a solo alpine winter ascent of K2 without oxygen be a greater feat than free soloing El Capitan?
Reminder that mountaineers are literally losing braincells every time they go after massive peaks that put them above 8000m without bottled oxygen
>>2854448>read this>all the climbers are all huge assholes, litter, steal anything not nailed down, shit all over the place, vandalize anything they can find, fuck everything up as much as they can, scream at eachother for touching a rope, kick rocks down at eachother, blast music and fireworks all nightWow climbing sounds fucking terrible I cant believe people pay thousands for such a shit ass experience
>>2854429>>2854432Positively /favstian/
>>2855037Welcome to most hobbies that require $$$ to do at the high end. Same with Skiing, Snowboarding, Mountaineering, etc.
>>2855037I think sherpas haul all the shit down the mountain these days. That's if you bother to shit in a bag and put it into a dedicated human waste container up there on the mountain.
so when i go out, which is rarely, its usually just a trip to the woods for 1-2hrs.but im interested in day hikes. im not really fit, its more the opposite. im pretty skinny and dont have a lot of strength and stamina, is ultralight gear the way to go for me?i dont plan on sleeping outside, so i dont need a tent.i need a good backpack, shoes and just the regular stuff. actually, i dont really know what i need for day hikes. i guess enough space for food, water and other necessities. budget is 500any recommendations or do i just look up yt and see what they say?
>>2855242>actually, i dont really know what i need for day hikesDepends on your climate and terrain.Weather's fairly mild around me so I easily do an 8h hike with just a 2L hydration pack, a couple of clif bars and a tube of sunblock, regardless of the season.There are other areas where even a 2h hike necessitates carrying comprehensive cold weather gear and an emergency shelter because you never know when a blizzard will unexpectedly roll in and leave you lost or at risk of hypothermia.Where are you likely to be doing most of your hiking?
>>2855244>>2855245thanks!>>2855250middle europe, bavarian forest mostly. its between a temperate climate and a humid continental/hemiboreal climate zone
>>2855242If you are only going out for the day it doesnt matter how much your gear wieghs. You're talking a matter of ounces to a pound or 2 at most difference. Just a backpack big enough to fit food, water, rain jacket, extra layers etc...knife, lighter/matches, TP, etc...https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/topics/camping-and-hiking/best-daypack
Buying ultralight for a dayhike is overkill. Spend the money on some sandwiches and bulk up. What you need is>ShoesOutdoorsy shoes or boots, depends on your terrain mostly. A lanklet may prefer shoes even in heavier terrain. I prefer pure leather as a middle way between waterproof but sweaty (goretex) and airy but not waterproof at all (mesh or fabric). If you only day hike in good weather you can go with the latter. The important thing about a shoe is that it fits your foot. Go to a store, try some. You don't really need to spend much money if you can find some that fit, but spending more is most acceptable on shoes.>ClothesIf you're doing something very exerting (probably not, since you say you don't have stamina) or if you go in rainy weather, you need synthetic or wool clothing. Decent synthetic clothing for base layers (undershirts) and fleeces can be very cheap, check at decathlon for starts but there are many online shops. Wool is for the extra comfy and non-stinky factor, but you don't need that for dayhikes. If you go in good weather and nothing exerting, your day to day cotton clothes will do.>Rain protectionYou can spend a lot of money here... or you get a cheap decathlon waterproof jacket or a poncho from amazon and be done. But if there's a chance of rain, you should bring *something*.>Water 1l/10km is a good baseline. More in hot weather. Buy some bottles at the local supermarket.... or special bottles and fill them with tap water. Whatever.>FoodStarting at 10km you should bring some food.>BackpackSince you don't bring much to begin with, your backpack will not be heavy anyway either. So no need to go ultralight.
>>2855263>I prefer pure leather as a middle way between waterproof but sweaty (goretex) and airy but not waterproof at all (mesh or fabric). If you only day hike in good weather you can go with the latter.Even in poor weather I prefer the latter.Unless you're going all the way with waterproof trousers and gaiters then heavy enough rain will get inside your boots regardless. And even gaiters won't do shit if the trail is flooded.At least fabric boots dry quickly.
fantasy books recommendations?
>>2849507The Kingkiller Chronicles by Patrick RothfussAnything by Brandon Sanderson
>>2849507The Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn trilogy by Tad Williams,
>>2849547>krabat is one of my absolut favourite books.Looks neat. I'm going to check it out.
>>2850754>>2852211botns is great i second it
>crowded af>rocks falling on people's heads>higher death rate than DenaliI'd like to climb a really big mountain but Mont Blanc is certainly not my dream, despite its beuty. Grossglockner is much less suicidal if you have some climbing experience.
>>2852299dat pierced nip poking out
>>2852012I have no motivation to climb a mountain but if I did I would want to climb a dangerous one without many people there. Everest might as well be sponsored by Omega at this point.
>>2853078>>i wish I was at k2 insteadWouldn't Matterhorn be better choice than Mont Blanc for someone who wants to be at k2?
>>2852346can i rent a farmers' donkey for a week and walk around the region with it
>>2852299me in the back
Just ordered the North Face Stormbreak 2. What tent are you rocking? What do you love and hate about it? What tent do you want?
>>2854884I'm very happy with this tent and want no other. If you buy one remember to seam seal it and upgrade the lines with clam cleats for tensioning. you can do without, but there is a ton of lines and it makes it easier.
>>2854886also excellent ventilation with the vent in the pyramid tip. but it takes some training to get the pitching of the tent seams to the ground right, a wee bit of a gap is nice for air circulation, too much and you get a draft in the shelter, especially when you don't use the inner. I only use the bug net inner which was fine up to -7°C at night outside in combination with a good sleeping bag, but there is closed fabric variants too in case you go cold weather camping and need a real two wall tent.
>>2827319Wallshart tent held together with duck tape mostly for car or canoe camping, and bug season. By myself and no bugs, a hammock or sometimes just a rainfly like this >>2827348 or under the stars if the weather is good
>>2854755>>2854756Pretty nice. Got any windbreak + tent?
>>2854450>Snugpak ionosphereThe condensation in these things is unreal.
I’m a complete novice in trekking, but I’m planning to do the Huemul circuit in a month. Every blog I read on the internet says it’s not suited to beginners, but I’m planning on going on the high season and tagging along with people if I think I’m going to get lost and stuff. I’m also training my endurance and stamina by going up the stairs in my apartment building with a backback. Any tips on other training and how to navigate this trail?
>>2854688carry 120lbs of gear on you*
>>2854600Can I just gain 120lbs instead
>>2854760yeah if it's mostly muscle and then you still need to carry 120lbs worth of gear
>>2854600isn't 120lbs of weight too much to carry? For reference, I'm 156lbs and calculated that, at the start of the trek, I would carry around 45lbs. What do I need that weights so much?
>>2855147Of course you can start with 45lbs. But you have to add more weight later on. When you are tired that 45lb bags feels like 80lb bag. You will develop better leg muscles and stamina by training with heavier bag. You need that with long hikes
Is there anything I should know to deal with winter conditions hiking? I've never been hiking with a significant amount of snow or ice, but am planning to do some in January in the Appalachians around VA, WV, MD, and/or PA.
>>2855018>You'll be hard pressed to find any mountain hikes with < 500' of gainreeeeeeeeeeeeI'm sure there's something, and if not there, in the immediate surroundings that's nice (I am not open to the Adirondacks).
>>2855021On one of my Catskills trips, I poked around Mine Kill State Park between more serious hikes. That's an option for less strenuous trails.
>>2854993That's a good point, I like peanut M&Ms for snacking and buffalo chicken sandwiches for lunch, with lots of blue cheese dressing. I always have a huge breakfast before leaving though.>>2855000>Do you carry a huge bag?nta, but I make do with a 24l bag for most trips, sometimes I step up to 35 though.
>>2855046Forgot to add, if you're buying gear a backpack should be the last thing you get. Buy it in person and bring all the rest of your gear in with you to make sure it packs well. Most reputable outdoors retailers will help you adjust and fit a pack as well.
>>2854662>am planning to do some in January in the Appalachians around VA, WV, MD, and/or PA.yeah you're cooked buddy
I want to try mountaineering but I'm scared of heights
>>2852542>nature's is JFC >>2852545That's just hiking.
>>2852548>That's just hiking.You have to start somewhere.
As someone who was also pretty fuckin scared of heights (and still is, depending on the situation) but now helps teach a mountaineering course:Start off scrambling (aka "spicy hiking"). Keep it below Class 3. Learn to orienteer, you can get lost as fuck off trail.A decent amount of mountaineering doesn't actually involve much exposure to heights. A lot of mountaineering is just about glacier travel and off-trail navigation in the alpine. You can climb, for instance, all five of the WA Volcanos without any actual class 5 rock or ice. That doesn't mean there aren't sketchy sections with big run-outs, just pointing out that "mountaineering" != "hiking + rock climbing" like a lot of people think it is. It's kinda a different set of skills, with some overlap, but it's not the same thing.Working on balance can help a lot with a fear of heights. Fear of heights is actually fear if falling. Do a lot of balance exercise.Of course exposure therapy helps too. Try rock climbing outdoors. The best exposure therapy is rappelling. Find some local top-rope crag and rappell until it's automatic. But never practice repelling without an instructor, at least not the first 50 or so times.Endurance is huge for mountaineering. Weighted uphill hikes are the best way to train. Don't waste time with anything else.
>>2852548>That's just hiking.Most mountaineering is just hiking that then turns into class 3 or 4 scrambling. Gotta walk before you can crawl.
>>2852580>Gotta walk before you can crawl.I like that. Gonna use it in the future.
What is your opinion on folding kayaks? I live where not every fishing hole has a trail leading to it and I'm not looking to drag a full sized kayak along with fishing gear everywhere I want to go
>>2852922>fuck decoyslol wut
>>2853360like this
>>2853119Tie two ropes to the bag. Second rope goes to the centre of the bottom so when you lift it first it dumps the rocks.
>>2852036I bought one from tucktec years ago and it's ok. Kinda cumbersome to fold back up. It isn't fun to paddle in for long.
>>2853360misspelling of duck
Must have /out/ tools?What are some items that you swear by? I'd like to only have to buy things once for a lifetime. Finally starting my cabin in the woods. I know I will need a lot of stuff, (chainsaws, drills, atv) and some of it I will have never heard of. Any warnings are appreciated since I really don't know what im doing. This would be in canada, ontario or alberta most likely.
>>2855082The author didn't get it either.
>>2855112Is it supposed to be that cows are not good at tools?
>>2855123Or is it that everything is horn technology somehow?
>>2855082>>2855109Gary Larson did get it, because there was nothing to get. That was the whole bit, that the tools were never intended to actually represent actual tools. Gary said his mistake was making one of them look like a saw which caused people to try to figure out the others when in fact, he hadn't drawn them with any realistic plan.
Cave diggers will never get a girlfr.... wat?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qEfSmWfwm0
>>2849213In canada women indulge whatever hobby their husbando might be into , even digging a fucking cave. Holy fuck america is so fucked right now
>>2849213
>>2850220>>2850249This is my favorite nutty putty video https://youtube.com/watch?v=o-TaF2DbaWw
>>2854821I cant click that link because it will give me nightmares
>>2855136I find these videos comfy
>#531- "Jump the Shark" Edition>Previous Thread: >>2846103>janny pls…>Thinking about picking up a new hobby? Want to get a memecaster? Haven't mastered the Palomar knot? Click here!>http://www.pastebin.com/u/fishingandtackle>https://imgur.com/a/1Xw3N>New Bong Fishin Guide>https://pastebin.com/sDB5SQTq>First for best telescopic rod is the one you exchanged for a 3pc.>Talk about fishin
>>2855110palomar is best for everything
>>2855121>>2855110palomar is great on paper but it's a bitch to do on anything thicker that 0.25mm and it's not that strongimproved uni (going twice into the eye) is betteri almost exclusively use uni and it's variations
>>2855122>0.25mmwouldn't know, anything over 17lb is braid for meknot strength is irrelevant, they are all perfectly fine if tied correctly and not burnt
>>2855015where are you fishing? looks like some lil guys I catch here in socal
>>2855132>>2855132>>2855132early thread to avoid skid fucking it up again
It's time to return to mother nature! Anything artificial shouldn't be brought or crafted!
>>2854532You replied to a jew so he probably would be
>>2854752naw, jews know how numbers work.
>>2854676What about manure? Will nature take care of it without needing much help from you?
swear anti-civ is psyop for people questioning industry
>>2855103aunt tedina was literally the product of intelligence agency research and development, everything he did was what he was made for by them, including inspiring new retards.
