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ok real shit, important question

why is photographing wild animals with drones so looked down upon when trail cams are okay?
>inb4 hurr noise
nigger this isn't 2005, most drones are quiet enough to the point where they can hover 10m over your head and you probably still won't hear it. go ask any slavshit conscripts duking it out in donetsk right now
>inb4 animals have keener senses
again, trailcams. those motherfuckers emit an ungodly amount of IR lights only visible to animals (and other IR cameras i guess) yet no one seems to have any problem with them

high IQ answers only
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>>2855317
It says they react to the cameras taking pictures because of the sound and light produced. I tried following links to ones that mention infrared, but they mostly just talk about sound frequencies and practically nothing about how they supposedly detect infrared.
It also doesn't say anything about their migration patterns being affected.
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You faggots are complaining about drones ruining your /out/ time, yet I have never seen a drone outside of suburbia. Even then, I have only seen drones on very rare occasions. You fags never go /out/.
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>>2855331
What about people blasting music in nature? This is another thing I see people complain about online but have only experienced it once myself.
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>>2854741
If you get a high quality one, they make for great air cameras. You can get some wonderful shots. You don't even have to be in any industry, you could just have it for personal use, or upload it to YouTube.
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>>2854741
>most drones are quiet
None of the ones I've seen flown near me are.

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ITT guys who made it. Men who didn't die of exposure or hunger, men who survived
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>>2847989
>Whatever happened to MGTOW and MRA anyway?
They joined up with the flat earthers and became MAGAts.
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>>2852458
terrible take . this board makes way too much of this
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>>2852458
Was he breaking some rule you thought was imposed on him? Flour, beans , salt and pepper. You would cry like a baby if thats all your mom brought you
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>>2842231
Wtf
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How could one man be so based?
How did he know how horrible women would become?

>EWG study: Eating one freshwater fish equals a month of drinking ‘forever chemicals’ water
So am I just not supposed to eat fish anymore? What's the point of even fishing anymore?
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>I've been proven correct in hindsight yet again

How do I do it
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>>2854941
this
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>the saltwater fish are poisoned forever
>the freshwater fish are poisoned forever
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>>2854781
Not necessarily. In the eastern USA and Midwest, altitude does nothing as the chemicals are literally aerosols in some regions. Lakes in Arctic Canada and northern Alaska test positive for these chemicals even though they have lower population density than Siberia. This is because the chemicals are literally airborne and riding the Pacific Jetstream from China. The majority of the lower 48 is turbo fucked chemically from both the jetstream chemicals from east Asia and local chemical production and mining and industrial farming for the last 100 years straight. The only streams left in the lower 48 that can actually pull fish that test with zero chemicals are native high elevation trout streams in the mountain west and isolated lakes/streams at high elevation in the PNW. Even some of these waters may still test for industrial chemicals sometimes brought intermittently by the Pacific jetstream from China. And likewise since the Pacific jetstream is the mother jetstream of east Asia, all of north America, and most of Europe, all industrial locations, all of them are broadly polluted to some extent even in actual wilderness.

Also in general, fish in the middle/lower part of the food chain may contain less chemicals due to the fact they don't live long and are less piscivorous. In the east these would be fish like bluegill/sunfish. All catfish and bass are fucked in general, even in the mountain west high elevation lakes and rivers. All great lakes fish in general are also fucked because the lakes are too severely polluted that most fish are on micro doses or even high doses of human medications present near shore and in rivers on top of industrial chemicals. The oceans aren't any better and are actually generally worse for larger species in terms of endocrine disrupting chemicals and neurotoxins (Mercury, micro plastics, DDT, OCs, PFCs, TBT/BTs, PFAs), even tuna caught in literal ocean wilderness test positive for most of these. Saltwater farmed is worse.
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>>2854649
If it's good for the fish, it's good for me.

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any subcultures other than rock climbing that have a dirtbagging scene?
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>dirtbagging
When did not being a good little consumer paying inflated prices become synonymous for being a piece of shit? Nice astroturfed term there


Is deadheading (No, not the jam band) also dirtbagging? Is working at a show/spot and getting to stay/go for free also dirtbagging? Where do you draw the line? Uhh excuse me sir you washed too far up your wrists in the bathroom that's basically taking a shower aka dirtbagging..
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>>2855329
>astroturfed term
Dirtbag climbers have been calling themselves that for decades. What are you on about?
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>>2855181
Stealthy /dirtbag/ general?
Post booty gear
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>>2855181
>>2855192
>>2855193
I worked at a resort for a few yrs. They had a party every year called the Dirt Bag Ball.
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>>2855193
We've got 'baggers in the ski industry since skiing was a thing

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KEYSTONE WAS THE FIRST RESORT TO OPEN YESTERDAY AT 3PM!
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>>2846708
If you guys end up at Gunstock in NH come say hi, I'm usually captain of Panorama or Pistol.
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>>2854392
Breh the adirondacks are an xc mecca
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>>2855187
According to whomst? Faggy Yankees?
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I have a pair of skis that I bought used 5 years ago. They’re kind of shitty but I’m debating on whether to hold on to them or not, because I’m a pretty casual skier and right now I’m more worried about the cost of new skis than performance on the slopes.

I know they’re past the point of being guaranteed by the manufacturer or whatever. Will ski shops still wax and inspect my skis, or will they not touch them at all since they’re too old? Is it even safe to be skiing on old skis like that?
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>>2855340
>Will ski shops still wax and inspect my skis
yes.
>Is it even safe to be skiing on old skis like that?
How old are they? if they are less than 20yrs old you should be fine. the bindings are more of a concern than the skiis if they are old too but the shop should be able to tell you if they are functional.

Post your /out/ edc kit.
Just pretend the sleeping bag is a hammock and this is mine
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>>2854945
um. it's a scary mummy with amphetamines.
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Thats what i packed for a 3 week hike.
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>>2852190
this is so gay. literally a dress-up doll for manchildren
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>>2852190
tis the season for my winter equipment
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>>2855119
Doesn't have to be. It can be a neat visual organizer for gear you already have or even play to buy.

Or you can just continue to be a salty fag over a cool little browser game.

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>gun? heh, I just carry bear spray, it's actually more effecti-
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>>2853748
Jerry could do it holstered too
he's also ancient as fuck so why not count that
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>>2853711
Yes, but attacking people was made illegal in the bear laws that were passed in 1976, so he'll be perfectly safe
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>>2853748
also jerry is firing a target pistol so he doesn't really have to worry about recoil, and isn't under the pressure of a giant bear charging at him. of course, neither is the guy with the spray, but his scenario is more realistic than a target shooting session.
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>>2851436
Italy, Spain and France have bears too. A couple years back a bear from Asturias even crossed border to Portugal. Per capita Romania is like top 3 for most bears in the world.

It's quite astonishing the lack of knowledge that people have about nature on a outdoors board.
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>>2855292
>also jerry is firing a target pistol so he doesn't really have to worry about recoil
Jerry shoulder fired .50 BMG at that speed, lying loser.

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would a solo alpine winter ascent of K2 without oxygen be a greater feat than free soloing El Capitan?
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Reminder that mountaineers are literally losing braincells every time they go after massive peaks that put them above 8000m without bottled oxygen
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>>2854448
>read this
>all the climbers are all huge assholes, litter, steal anything not nailed down, shit all over the place, vandalize anything they can find, fuck everything up as much as they can, scream at eachother for touching a rope, kick rocks down at eachother, blast music and fireworks all night

Wow climbing sounds fucking terrible
I cant believe people pay thousands for such a shit ass experience
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>>2854429
>>2854432
Positively /favstian/
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>>2855037
Welcome to most hobbies that require $$$ to do at the high end. Same with Skiing, Snowboarding, Mountaineering, etc.
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>>2855037
I think sherpas haul all the shit down the mountain these days. That's if you bother to shit in a bag and put it into a dedicated human waste container up there on the mountain.

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so when i go out, which is rarely, its usually just a trip to the woods for 1-2hrs.

but im interested in day hikes. im not really fit, its more the opposite. im pretty skinny and dont have a lot of strength and stamina, is ultralight gear the way to go for me?

i dont plan on sleeping outside, so i dont need a tent.

i need a good backpack, shoes and just the regular stuff. actually, i dont really know what i need for day hikes. i guess enough space for food, water and other necessities. budget is 500

any recommendations or do i just look up yt and see what they say?
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>>2855242
>actually, i dont really know what i need for day hikes
Depends on your climate and terrain.

Weather's fairly mild around me so I easily do an 8h hike with just a 2L hydration pack, a couple of clif bars and a tube of sunblock, regardless of the season.
There are other areas where even a 2h hike necessitates carrying comprehensive cold weather gear and an emergency shelter because you never know when a blizzard will unexpectedly roll in and leave you lost or at risk of hypothermia.

Where are you likely to be doing most of your hiking?
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>>2855244
>>2855245
thanks!

>>2855250
middle europe, bavarian forest mostly. its between a temperate climate and a humid continental/hemiboreal climate zone
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>>2855242
If you are only going out for the day it doesnt matter how much your gear wieghs. You're talking a matter of ounces to a pound or 2 at most difference. Just a backpack big enough to fit food, water, rain jacket, extra layers etc...knife, lighter/matches, TP, etc...

https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/topics/camping-and-hiking/best-daypack
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Buying ultralight for a dayhike is overkill. Spend the money on some sandwiches and bulk up.
What you need is
>Shoes
Outdoorsy shoes or boots, depends on your terrain mostly. A lanklet may prefer shoes even in heavier terrain. I prefer pure leather as a middle way between waterproof but sweaty (goretex) and airy but not waterproof at all (mesh or fabric). If you only day hike in good weather you can go with the latter. The important thing about a shoe is that it fits your foot. Go to a store, try some. You don't really need to spend much money if you can find some that fit, but spending more is most acceptable on shoes.
>Clothes
If you're doing something very exerting (probably not, since you say you don't have stamina) or if you go in rainy weather, you need synthetic or wool clothing. Decent synthetic clothing for base layers (undershirts) and fleeces can be very cheap, check at decathlon for starts but there are many online shops. Wool is for the extra comfy and non-stinky factor, but you don't need that for dayhikes.
If you go in good weather and nothing exerting, your day to day cotton clothes will do.
>Rain protection
You can spend a lot of money here... or you get a cheap decathlon waterproof jacket or a poncho from amazon and be done. But if there's a chance of rain, you should bring *something*.
>Water
1l/10km is a good baseline. More in hot weather. Buy some bottles at the local supermarket.... or special bottles and fill them with tap water. Whatever.
>Food
Starting at 10km you should bring some food.
>Backpack
Since you don't bring much to begin with, your backpack will not be heavy anyway either. So no need to go ultralight.
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>>2855263
>I prefer pure leather as a middle way between waterproof but sweaty (goretex) and airy but not waterproof at all (mesh or fabric). If you only day hike in good weather you can go with the latter.
Even in poor weather I prefer the latter.
Unless you're going all the way with waterproof trousers and gaiters then heavy enough rain will get inside your boots regardless. And even gaiters won't do shit if the trail is flooded.
At least fabric boots dry quickly.

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The purpose of this general is to encourage people to go /out/ and find cool fossils and artifacts. This thread is also a place to share our own collections and things we find when we are /out/ hunting.

Rules are as follows,
>To just post and discuss fossils and other related geological subjects.
>When you post about a fossil in your collection, please label it with what formation it is from, what it is, and where in the world it is from.
>If you don't know where it originated or the species that is ok, just label it as so
>You can post rocks and minerals as long a they are ones that you have found while /out/
Helpful Links
https://paleobiodb.org/navigator/
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/
https://zoom.earth/
Geologic maps of US states (usgs.gov)
A Beginner's Guide To Fossil Hunting - Fossil Hunting Trips - The Fossil Forum
Listing of Historic Resources (alberta.ca)
USGS | Pocket Texas Geology

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>>2853289
post it, I'd love to see it
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>>2853289
>flakes and rejects

That’s all this board is
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bump
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>>2853178
yo i haven't seen one of these threads in a while, i haven't been in this board for ages too. If this thread ever dies come to the /extraflags/ general on /int/, i now live in Northern Italy so we can talk about geology all day, plenty of well documented locations around here. I'm mostly into minerals but there's also a few fossil locations i wanna explore
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Trimmers Rock Formation in Devonian shale and Siltstone near Millville PA. I work in solid waste as a CQA so i got out to a site where they were excavating the next cell for cover material while i was doing Liner work next cell over. I'd hop in and find alot of shell impints, hash and ripple marks along with crinoids. Found Burrows back here in the summer too. Some Pretty Tight dendrites as well, site management lets me have at it . The ripples were too big to take unfortunately. I got some from near Allentown PA anyway

After a violent confrontation with police he fled into the Victorian High Country.

What followed is a three month manhunt by 500 police, including 125 specialist tactical officers, 20 dog teams, six helicopters, an unknown number of thermal drones and in addition hundreds of military personnel. Despite the effort not so much as a footprint of the man was found.

As the search past its first month the issue became obvious. This guy had four decades of experience in the area, his son calling it his second home. Friends recounted an obsession with bushcraft and a history of living offgrid in makeshift homes, old buses, sheds and caves. He knew the mineshafts were a safe comfortable place at night and as a prepper he was known to stash things in many a hidden place.
As the hunt entered its 2nd month his connections to anti government groups were exposed and the police had to reconcile the fact he may be helped. With thermals completely failing, tactical officers were given the gruelling task of crawling through caves and mineshafts. With no success the Australian public began questioning what all this was costing. Independent media interviewed locals and suspicions were raised, how could such a well liked man kill for no reason? Why has the bodycam footage not been released?
As the hunt entered its 3rd month half the units were sent home. Weeks of snow storms and dangerous conditions had crushed morale. The welfare toll was immense. Stories of psychological damage on officers. PTSD was diagnosed, this man, this ghost, he could have been behind any tree. Various theories were floated, suggestions that if the police couldn't find him then maybe he wasn't even there.
And now there is but a skeleton crew, still searching, refusing to give up.
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>>2851251
>After a violent confrontation with police
Why aren't you more specific?
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>>2854849
Body cam was never released and the official story from the police keeps changing. First they said he ambushed them firing consecutive shots. Then it came out he was using a single fire home made slam shotgun. Then it came out the police were talking to him through a door before the shooting. Now there is some mention of him being in a prone position. I stopped following the police narrative as there are too many inconsistencies and I will not make a specific statement until verifiable proof comes out via body cam.
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>>2854850
Fair. Thanks.
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ZOGBOTS 0 DEZI 1
BASED
FUCK THE VICZOG!
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>>2854986
I think he got 2, and wounded another in the arse as he was running away.

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fantasy books recommendations?
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>>2849507
The Kingkiller Chronicles by Patrick Rothfuss
Anything by Brandon Sanderson
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>>2849507
The Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn trilogy by Tad Williams,
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>>2849547
>krabat is one of my absolut favourite books.
Looks neat. I'm going to check it out.
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>>2850754
>>2852211
botns is great i second it

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I didn't try to be an ultralight fag on purpose but it turned out all the gear I need for a 3-4 night backpacking trip fits in a 40-45L backpack, so I'm looking at options for backpacks in that range. Currently using this Gossamer Gear 42L pack and it's okay so far, but does anybody have other suggestions for mid-sized packs?
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>>2855256
kakwa 55 homie get the ultra200x if you can its very solid ill be testing it more so on the at soon perchance
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>>2855256
What's wrong with the pack you've got?

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With 2025 coming to an end, it's time for the yearly grid thread!

Lets see what you've been up to..
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>>2854977
Funny enough, he won't respond to that.
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>>2854596
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>>2854982
West coast?
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>>2855072
Yes

Jan = Below Mt Shasta, CA
Feb = Lost Coast, CA
Mar = Chilkat Pass, BC
Apr = Wolf Rock, OR
May = Colchuck Lake, WA
Jun = Thompson Pass, AK
Jul = Tombstone Territorial Park, YT
Aug = Summit of Grand Teton, WY
Sep = Summit of Sacajawea Peak, OR
Oct = Summit of Half Dome, CA
Nov = Wapta Icefield, AB
Dec = Kananaskis area, AB
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The only real pictures we should be seeing are computer desks as we all know you fools don't actually go out.

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frog edition
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>>2855213
Wicking beds.

My veg garden is 100% wicking beds due to large trees everywhere ganking all my resources otherwise. Doesn't need to be perlite or charcoal (expensive) I use socked ag drain pipe in the bottom of half an IBC as a water reservoir. Cover that with scorea, a large flower pot of sand in the middle to wick water right from the bottom. Then a layer of geo textile, thick layer of straw, then soil on top of that. Need an overflow pipe at the top of the scorea level, and a fill pipe going into the end of one of the ag pipes so it can't block up.

The plants use as much as they need, not a drop is wasted. Always amazes me how much water plants actually use. Grew a block of corn in one of those beds and swore it had a hole in it, how else could it use that much water but nope corn is just thirsty as fuck.
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>>2855220
thanks anon! just watched this diy video of one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PODjQKSssg8

looks like a manageable project, though that video made one that's way overkill size-wise for my purposes.

any concerns about microplastics at all with these btw? geo textile is typically made of polyester and from what im seeing on youtube everybody uses plastics for the tubes as well.
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They be growing
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The root balls were getting tied together, so I'm hoping that I didn't damage the two big ones. I definitely got the taproot of the big one at least.

Never done trees before, but i tried a mix of potting soil with some dirt from the garden bed and another random patch. My thought is to help them acclimate to different soil types.
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>>2855224
>microplastics
Never considered it, there is no doubt microplastics generated during the assembly since you have to cut plastic with a saw/drill etc. I'm not concerned about the geotextile since its buried and out of sunlight it should last a while. The IBC bladder itself isn't UV stable so it can break down eventually, I clad my beds in reclaimed wooden fence panels, actually looks half decent that way.

It would be hard to make this style without using any plastics. Not impossible though. The fill and overflow pipes might be a challenge.


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