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What's the best way to get into tornado chasing with the season soon coming up?
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>>2802374
AI is truly groundbreaking technology.

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>Last Friday was a sad day for Montana and for all lovers of public land access,” Montana BHA said in an Instagram post. “We are deeply disappointed that the [U.S. Forest Service] has caved to big money and their never-ending goal to lock the public out of public land by executing this deceptive ‘land swap’ that strips the public of prime access to the Crazy Mountains. Despite overwhelming opposition from everyday Montanans, the USFS bent the knee to the wealthy and rewarded the illegal actions of landowners who have for years sought private enclaves of extremely valuable public land.”
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>>2802345
cool. post proof
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>>2802304
The person who sent this is not a political appointee but was hired by the forest service into the position. Lord knows the inner machinations of upper management forest service, and he clearly says this land swap had been a thing way before he arrived in June, so who knows where the idea originated. It seems based on the memo that the forest service not only got twice as much land, but that the land they gave away has conservation rules and things. Lord also knows what those are and how enforceable but the guy has a long career of public service in ecology, I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt
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>>2802372
Here's what the swap looks like. I think. This was the proposed and he mentions alternatives in the memo so maybe something changed.
But ultimately to me it looks like the forest gets more land, but it gets blocked off by the new private land, depending on whether public travel is still allowed on some of those trails. But it looks like this land would still be walkable from the west side anyway
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>>2802377
In the topo though, it does start to look like land has been made less accessible. If the public can't get into the wolf park area or black butte area, there's no way to get north/south without driving out of the forest or taking the trails west and around.
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>>2802378
I've never been here, maybe there are class 3 or 4 passes or whatever but either way that's pretty fucken steep. So i think that BHA is mad because they can't get into the lower areas as easy for hunting, but it's probably a win for ecology for the greater land conservation. Do we care about recreation or conservation more?

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Eurofag moving south for the winter here, got me a flat 30min drive from sierra de grazalema, got me a 4x4, got me a tent and a packraft. Where go?

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Fellow Yuros post a few 100% real outdoor gear companies from your country, I'm boycotting all mutt shit.
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>i wear stinking wet wool and bear skins at 8000m ack......
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>>2802273
You're a bongoloid. You don't even have 800m foothills. Stop larping and go outside you fucking loser.
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>>2802266
Tilak, all made in Czechia, it is standard equipment of the Czech Mountain Service, and a very popular brand on the Japanese outdoor market

good quality but expensive
https://www.tilak.com/en
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>>2802266
woman tier emotions
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just visit your nearest decathlon

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What cigars do you enjoy when you go out?

I mostly enjoy infused cigars. On hikes I like something smaller, like an Acid Blondie. Nice half hour smoke during a rest. For camping I prefer something bigger like a Deadwood Leather Rose next to a fire with a flask of whiskey.
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>>2801999
had a cigar once last year with friends I traveled a great distance to meet. I have no clue what they where but we split the cost of that and some whisky together and they where wonderful. I don't think I'll buy any while I'm at home with my family as the tax from our country on Tabaco is insane and I'd rather import some from the states for cheaper.
to answer the question whatever's around the 20 buck range :P
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For outings I prefer a quick smoke like Excalibur or Davidoff cigarellos while the wife prefers something sweeter like the Acid Krush or CAO brands. They mostly come in small tins and are easier to carry and we don't have to bother with a cutter as it's easy enough to cut the tip with a knife. A cigarello with a cuppa joe in the wilderness is hard to beat.
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>>2801999
so far, i haven't found a single cigar i actually liked
they either just don't taste / smell good to me, and give off an itchy taste, or they don't taste like much at all
even $30 cigars i've had, that were recommended as really good, ended up tasting horrible to me, the dirt cheap ones at least taste like slightly flavored hot air
anyone else have this issue?
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>>2801999
Newports
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>>2801999
Garbage

Any urbex fags wanna swap stories/pics?
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>>2798364
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>>2801329
On AND off the internet, bubba. Fuck you gonna do about it? Hahahahahahahahaha.
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>>2801329
If I pulled off his headband would he die?
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>>2798165
this is why you shouldnt smoke meth....
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>>2799322

im so in

> Indestructible

> Perfect size to balance carry comfort with field effectiveness

> Sharpen with anything

> Great ergonomics

> Enough grip security for combat

> Excellent sheath

> Lifetime warranty no matter what

> Made in America

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>>2802272
Lol, where did you get that?
I've been annoying my sister for years by gifting her outdoors stuff (which she actually wants and uses), but making it pink camo, pink realtree etc. A knife like that would be perfect for her.
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>>2802227
Yes. It's not fedora-tier at all to take an AK into the woods for your day hike. Definitely not autistic and cringe at all.
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>>2802295
Is it ok if I just take the AK out on my property to shoot ? Do I need to go to REI and get a more fashionable pack to replace my Milsurp pack to get through the gates you keep ?
I carried that KBar in combat is there a knife you prefer I put on my belt to be more fashionable ?
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>>2802352
Yes maybe something that doesnt scream "I served in Iraq....In what capacity? I served as a line cook from 2011 to 2014"

Thank you for your service Spongebob!
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>>2802360
You have nothing but middle school insults. Your moronic , know nothing statements are a reflection of you not of me.

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How the fuck do people camp in winter? I watch these youtube videos of people who have like mini stoves, giant pots, pans, knives, cooking stews and pasta out in the middle of bum fuck no where in the snow. How do they lug all this shit around?
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>>2801745
>I watch these youtube videos of people who have like mini stoves, giant pots, pans, knives, cooking stews
you dont need all that. you just need suitable tent, sleeping bag and sleeping mat.
you'll obviously need a suitable clothing as well.
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Camping in the winter is a giant meme

>wow, it's dark at 4:30, everything is wet and covered in snow, it's -20 degrees with 50mph winds, putting my tent up was a nightmare, I had to lug fifty pounds of equipment to get here, and I'm eating boiled beans for dinner, I'm having so much FUCKING FUN!!!
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>>2802332
its pretty
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>>2802332
You sound incompetent.
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Camping in the winter is a giant win

>wow, I am not being mauled by mosquitoes and I'm not getting mobbed by flies when I cook since they are fucking dead

>I don't have to listen to drunk yee haws blasting music since they are too scared to camp in winter and the snow dampens acoustic, so peaceful.

>I have to lug some extra gear but it's way easier to move over the snow in a sled

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What kind of axe do you use for chopping up deadfall innawoods? Is there any real difference between expensive axes and my $40 one from the hardware store? I know pic related are just silly overpriced shit for hipsters, but even like a $150 axe from council tool or somebody like that seems overpriced.
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>>2802125
>50 dollar axe and it chips a quarter sized hunk of metal off when you hit a knot
Has yet to happen to me. Maybe a skill issue?
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>>2802131
>Has yet to happen to me. Maybe a skill issue?
>Has yet to happen to me
>Yet to happen to me
>Yet to Happen

You gave us all we needed to know, you don't use axes enough to have an opinion.
Because protip, given enough usage all axes. Every single one. Will need some sort of maintenance.

I have had two axes chip and one blow out the handle. It just fucking happens dude and the fact you are arguing otherwise is proof you have know idea what you're talking about.
The more you use one axe, the likelihood it will need to be repaired goes up exponentially regardless of cost of the axe.
Cheaper axes accumulatively go up in price even further.

Tell me a cheap piece of ash wood handled axe will survive as long as a hickory when shapes to the same thickness. Fuck off.
A heavy medium ashwood handle will last a lifetime, but it cost as much as the thin hickory handle fancy axe.

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>tfw we have some old axes that hold up week besides occasional need to replace wooden handles we happen to be able to buy from nearby store for a buck or two while some fags are arguing about overpriced brands on the internet.
Sometimes I forget how good I have it.
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>>2802338
*well
But I suppose you figured it out.
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I cannot wait to see the knocking on 50 years old Fiskars. Kek.

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Post your general location and we'll reply with a new location (>2 hours) for you to visit in 2025. If you have already been to that location, call them a faggot and let somebody else try.
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Birmingham, AL. I need something to do. I need out of this shithole.
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>>2801094
The people who actually have roots here seem to be pretty alright. The biggest douchebags I've seen mostly seem to be transplants from other parts of OR or people who came from CA 10 years ago.

>>2801374
It's hard for me not to be sympathetic to the local situation, I'm from a place that's been turbofucked by decades of transplants and immigration so I know all too well what it's like to be on the receiving end and can't bring myself to be one of those people.
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Baltimore, MD
HELP!!!!!!!
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>>2802325
have you been to the liberty reservoir?
also, kilgore falls, king and queen seat at rocks state park (doesn't open until 10 am in winter), tho u can always hike from the bottom),

not to mention the gajillion overlooks of the susquehanna an hour or two noth
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Sure, I could do with an adventure goal.
Upper Peninsula, Michigan.

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>be me
>enjoying a campsite in a remote Australian beach town
>go into a semi outdoor disabled toilet to take a shit
>shitting
>big ass wasp enters though the gap between wall and roof
>starts hovering 2-3 inches away from me going around my body and head
>contemplate whether I should try and hit it with my shorts and risk getting stung or should I run outside and have my penis and unwiped ass on full display to the campers right outside facing the door
>choose to move from corner to corner in the small room avoiding it while squatting the whole time to avoid spreading the shit along my cheeks
>after two minutes he fucks off under sink so I wiped and flush, he comes at me again for 10 seconds the goes under the sink
>i make my break

Is this some territorial behavior or is God punishing me for using the disabled toilet as a fit young man?
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>>2801987
>>be me
newfag
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I was driving in Yosemite and a massive black wasp flew into the car and flew up my fucking shirt sleeve. I panicked hard and yanked the steering wheel or something and jumped a 4" curb onto a meadow. People behind me must have thought I had a stroke or something. I was lucky that it wasn't going very fast and also it was a flat meadow on the other side of the curb and I was able to just drive back on, but it made me think about how many ways I could have fucking died if I was on some other road, life if I was on a cliff edge I literally would have just driven off, or if there were trees or rocks or oncoming traffic or anything I would have crashed. All because of a fucking wasp.
Also somehow the wasp didn't sting me and just flew out of my sleeve and flew away.
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>>2802160
*I wasn't going very fast
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>>2801987
>Australian
I found your issue
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>>2801987
Wasps won’t sting you for no reason, same as bees

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what's the best third party zippo insert?
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>>2801397
How in the fuck is that any better than a lighter?
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>>2800953
>>2800956
>>2800966
>>2800970
Behold, the greatest backpacking lighter ever made.
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>>2800941
clippers suck ass
yes, their flints can be replaced, and they can be refilled
why is the bic equivalent non refillable, but is made of better quality than clipper?
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The virgin genuinely bad "zippo" vs the giga chad 1300° no name chinese blowtorch
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>ITT: poorfags everywhere
Zippos are elite-tier Americana....and they're like 20 bucks for a nice one....and 11 dollars for the good insert

go get a job poorfags, Trump is back

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I live in North Florida and I am hoping to get into hunting this year. I've done a solid amount of surface-level research about the rules and so on, but I don't get what people really 'do' while they hunt.

If you're on public land where tree stands aren't allowed, do you just set up on the ground? What's the general protocol for doing that safely and effectively?

Also just give me any general wisdom you think I need.
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>>2800527
Some people take hunting and fishing super seriously. For me they're an opportunity to be outside and relax. They need to ban loud music on boats though.
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>>2800527
If I had my cell phone on me I'd just show you how I wander the woods at night and come across deer, rabbit, coyotes, foxes, skunk, swan, and even just a few days ago in the TN snow storm I came across an elk trail with massive fucking stomper tracks compared to the average deer.

I have incredible low light vision though and have a tendency to notice them long before they spot me.
I also smoke and use campfires a lot, which has a benefit of completely masking the smell of a human. All of the scents found in smoke are generally found in nature so animals don't notice them as often.
I digress, I just wander, I'm quiet on my feet, and I stop for small breaks regularly.
Almost every night I would have found an animal that would be considered hunting game.

You need to have patience though, if you are following near a river any time of year. You have something that can be hunted nearby.
Actively working though?
As you wander notice things.
>why is there a divot in this hillside with no growth (animal path)
>why are the branches broken in the same overarching direction here (deer path where antlers keep breaking smaller limbs)
>the water is shallower here and I have noticed what look like old deer prints (crossing area, check back regularly to see if new prints)


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Hunting noob here too. I'm planning to buy my first rifle in a few weeks but I'm so confused on what to buy. At the moment I'm looking at Tikka T3X (~2k), CZ600 lux (~2k) or a Weatherby Vanguard (~1.5k). They're all in a .308 caliber.

I'm aiming to hunt mainly deers and buffalos, sometimes pigs. What would recommend for a beginner? I'm leaning toward the Tikka, but CZ also seems good.
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>>2800527
>do you just set up on the ground?
>set up
Is that really something burgers do? Just start walking within eyesight of a stream or creek, go against the wind as much as possible, and you'll find animals easily even in overpopulated places like Germany (where I'm from). Then repeat until you find an animal you're allowed to take within the area you're allowed to hunt in, take the shot, prepare the carcass for transport and haul it home.
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So how about this, you go around to animal shelters to collect rejected rabbits and chickens and eat those?

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Realistically speaking what are you supposed to do if a moose walks out in front of you on the trail and turns and stares you down? Can you just walk past them if it's not mating season?
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>>2801845
Mindless chattel browns shouldn't ever feel sorry for white people. Even when we jest we intellectually mog you goblin browns.
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>>2801442
Based + even made the eternal shitskins seethe
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>>2801580
>you stink like something that wants to eat them.
they ain't wrong
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>>2801442
I often hike carrying my 30-30. That's good for moose correct?
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>>2802252
Yes, plenty.

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>start going to church so I can actually socialize
>after attending for about 3 months straight, miss a day because a hiking trip went a little too long on Saturday and I didn't feel like going to church on 2 hours of sleep
>next week church granny checks in on me
>asks if I'm alright, if I need any help, if there was some emergency last Sunday, etc.
>tell her no, I just hiked a little too long
>gives some churchy reply like "well we can't have you missing worship left and right just because of some trees"
>pull a churchy response straight out of my ass and say something along the lines of "I think it's better to praise the Lord while among his creations, not while locked away from them in a building"
>she steps back in dramatized shock and goes deep into thought
>sermon starts and pastor goes into his topic for the week
>at the end of the sermon pastor asks if anyone has anything they'd like to add
>church granny springs up and tells everyone what I told her, but dramatizes it obviously
>finishes it by telling the pastor she thinks the church should do a monthly hike
>pastor acts like the holy spirit gave him a handjob and shouts about how fucking amazing of an idea that is
>puts me in charge of the hiking trips
>choose flat, short trails because old people

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>>2802268
He's surrounded by mindless geriatric cultists
I wouldn't be happy about that either
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>>2802211
>>2802271
I live in a college town. I used to go to the Catholic student center where demographics were good, lots of young adults, some old people, and some families. Now, I'm in the process of converting to Judaism. There are young people, but they are all gay or trans. Most of the regulars are old. Very few people attend.
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>>2802283
Ew what the fuck
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>>2802268
I'm not acting miserable, I'm just telling it like it is while trying to keep the story interesting. In reality, I enjoy the process of checking out trails the weekend before so I make sure it's easy enough for the rest of the group. We even have a much older lady that decided to go to physical therapy so she can go on hikes with us, there's a waterfall trail not too far away that's paved so I want to take her there first. I actually enjoy having a community to belong to, even if I don't feel like I'm "one of them"
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>>2802209
I ran a backpacking MeefUp group with around 120 members. Hiking with a group of inexperienced people is unique. You have to keep an open mind and enjoy the company for who they are.


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