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>>2855213
Wicking beds.

My veg garden is 100% wicking beds due to large trees everywhere ganking all my resources otherwise. Doesn't need to be perlite or charcoal (expensive) I use socked ag drain pipe in the bottom of half an IBC as a water reservoir. Cover that with scorea, a large flower pot of sand in the middle to wick water right from the bottom. Then a layer of geo textile, thick layer of straw, then soil on top of that. Need an overflow pipe at the top of the scorea level, and a fill pipe going into the end of one of the ag pipes so it can't block up.

The plants use as much as they need, not a drop is wasted. Always amazes me how much water plants actually use. Grew a block of corn in one of those beds and swore it had a hole in it, how else could it use that much water but nope corn is just thirsty as fuck.
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>>2855220
thanks anon! just watched this diy video of one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PODjQKSssg8

looks like a manageable project, though that video made one that's way overkill size-wise for my purposes.

any concerns about microplastics at all with these btw? geo textile is typically made of polyester and from what im seeing on youtube everybody uses plastics for the tubes as well.
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They be growing
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The root balls were getting tied together, so I'm hoping that I didn't damage the two big ones. I definitely got the taproot of the big one at least.

Never done trees before, but i tried a mix of potting soil with some dirt from the garden bed and another random patch. My thought is to help them acclimate to different soil types.
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>>2855224
>microplastics
Never considered it, there is no doubt microplastics generated during the assembly since you have to cut plastic with a saw/drill etc. I'm not concerned about the geotextile since its buried and out of sunlight it should last a while. The IBC bladder itself isn't UV stable so it can break down eventually, I clad my beds in reclaimed wooden fence panels, actually looks half decent that way.

It would be hard to make this style without using any plastics. Not impossible though. The fill and overflow pipes might be a challenge.

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>crowded af
>rocks falling on people's heads
>higher death rate than Denali
I'd like to climb a really big mountain but Mont Blanc is certainly not my dream, despite its beuty. Grossglockner is much less suicidal if you have some climbing experience.
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>>2852299
dat pierced nip poking out
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>>2852012
I have no motivation to climb a mountain but if I did I would want to climb a dangerous one without many people there. Everest might as well be sponsored by Omega at this point.
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>>2853078
>>i wish I was at k2 instead
Wouldn't Matterhorn be better choice than Mont Blanc for someone who wants to be at k2?
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>>2852346
can i rent a farmers' donkey for a week and walk around the region with it
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>>2852299
me in the back

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Just ordered the North Face Stormbreak 2. What tent are you rocking? What do you love and hate about it? What tent do you want?
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>>2854884
I'm very happy with this tent and want no other. If you buy one remember to seam seal it and upgrade the lines with clam cleats for tensioning. you can do without, but there is a ton of lines and it makes it easier.
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>>2854886
also excellent ventilation with the vent in the pyramid tip. but it takes some training to get the pitching of the tent seams to the ground right, a wee bit of a gap is nice for air circulation, too much and you get a draft in the shelter, especially when you don't use the inner. I only use the bug net inner which was fine up to -7°C at night outside in combination with a good sleeping bag, but there is closed fabric variants too in case you go cold weather camping and need a real two wall tent.
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>>2827319
Wallshart tent held together with duck tape mostly for car or canoe camping, and bug season. By myself and no bugs, a hammock or sometimes just a rainfly like this >>2827348 or under the stars if the weather is good
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>>2854755
>>2854756
Pretty nice. Got any windbreak + tent?
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>>2854450
>Snugpak ionosphere
The condensation in these things is unreal.

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any subcultures other than rock climbing that have a dirtbagging scene?
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>>2855181
Pretty much every outdoor sport that isnt conservative coded. There are even dirtbag resort skiiers
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>>2855192
how?

isn't skiing incredibly expensive
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>>2855193
They work at the resorts to get free passes. Think of every non-foreign lift operator that was probably stoned. Or they save up all their money for the pass and then dirtbag everything else. Sleep in the parking lot, bring own food and drinks in packs or coat. Or do the free skinning up the hill.
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>>2855181
The only /out/ activities that don't are horseback riding, sailing, golf
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>>2855210
Golf has dirtbaggers for the same reasons as ski resorts, and so does sailing. Florida has a whole pirate bay of dirtbag sailors.

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Land that conservation agencies refuse to allow to be open to the public outright should be turned into condos for millionaires instead.
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>>2854624
Believe it or not, we do have a few amongst all the rolling hills
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>>2854636
I inb4'd posting quartzite outcroppings
also, no the view from the official viewing box is not as good as if you do the dangerous thing and walk up onto the fin itself, but I wasn't gonna do that.
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>>2854044
whining about what other people do with their own property accomplishes nothing but shitting up this board. I would rather have pol escapist fantasy posts than your continued bitching
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>>2854670
starting a discussion can change society
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>>2853939
Every square inch of earth should be covered in concrete. Fuck green things.

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so when i go out, which is rarely, its usually just a trip to the woods for 1-2hrs.

but im interested in day hikes. im not really fit, its more the opposite. im pretty skinny and dont have a lot of strength and stamina, is ultralight gear the way to go for me?

i dont plan on sleeping outside, so i dont need a tent.

i need a good backpack, shoes and just the regular stuff. actually, i dont really know what i need for day hikes. i guess enough space for food, water and other necessities. budget is 500

any recommendations or do i just look up yt and see what they say?
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>>2855242
All you need is a water bottle. You can pick up a hiking stick off the ground. If you want to bring a raincoat and a fleece just in case, the smallest backpack you already own will do fine. You're just going walking bro.
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>>2855242
>actually, i dont really know what i need for day hikes
Depends on your climate and terrain.

Weather's fairly mild around me so I easily do an 8h hike with just a 2L hydration pack, a couple of clif bars and a tube of sunblock, regardless of the season.
There are other areas where even a 2h hike necessitates carrying comprehensive cold weather gear and an emergency shelter because you never know when a blizzard will unexpectedly roll in and leave you lost or at risk of hypothermia.

Where are you likely to be doing most of your hiking?
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>>2855244
>>2855245
thanks!

>>2855250
middle europe, bavarian forest mostly. its between a temperate climate and a humid continental/hemiboreal climate zone
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>>2855242
If you are only going out for the day it doesnt matter how much your gear wieghs. You're talking a matter of ounces to a pound or 2 at most difference. Just a backpack big enough to fit food, water, rain jacket, extra layers etc...knife, lighter/matches, TP, etc...

https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/topics/camping-and-hiking/best-daypack
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Buying ultralight for a dayhike is overkill. Spend the money on some sandwiches and bulk up.
What you need is
>Shoes
Outdoorsy shoes or boots, depends on your terrain mostly. A lanklet may prefer shoes even in heavier terrain. I prefer pure leather as a middle way between waterproof but sweaty (goretex) and airy but not waterproof at all (mesh or fabric). If you only day hike in good weather you can go with the latter. The important thing about a shoe is that it fits your foot. Go to a store, try some. You don't really need to spend much money if you can find some that fit, but spending more is most acceptable on shoes.
>Clothes
If you're doing something very exerting (probably not, since you say you don't have stamina) or if you go in rainy weather, you need synthetic or wool clothing. Decent synthetic clothing for base layers (undershirts) and fleeces can be very cheap, check at decathlon for starts but there are many online shops. Wool is for the extra comfy and non-stinky factor, but you don't need that for dayhikes.
If you go in good weather and nothing exerting, your day to day cotton clothes will do.
>Rain protection
You can spend a lot of money here... or you get a cheap decathlon waterproof jacket or a poncho from amazon and be done. But if there's a chance of rain, you should bring *something*.
>Water
1l/10km is a good baseline. More in hot weather. Buy some bottles at the local supermarket.... or special bottles and fill them with tap water. Whatever.
>Food
Starting at 10km you should bring some food.
>Backpack
Since you don't bring much to begin with, your backpack will not be heavy anyway either. So no need to go ultralight.

Do mosquito bed nets like the ones given out by organizations like against malaria foundation help people sleep better or make them more comfortable? Or is the only benefit that they help save lives by making people less likely to get malaria?

>The long-lasting insecticidal nets (LLINs) provided by the Against Malaria Foundation are high-tech protective shields made from durable polyethylene or polyester fibers specifically engineered to survive harsh tropical environments for three to four years. These nets are far more than a physical barrier; the fabric is either impregnated or coated with WHO-prequalified insecticides, such as pyrethroids, which kill or repel malaria-carrying *Anopheles* mosquitoes on contact. This insecticide is designed to be wash-resistant, remaining effective for up to twenty manual washes, while the specific mesh size is precisely calibrated to balance cooling airflow with impenetrable protection against even the smallest insects. >Because these nets are family-sized, each one typically protects two individuals often a mother and child and by killing mosquitoes throughout the night, they create a "community effect" that reduces the overall mosquito density in the area, providing an extra layer of safety for the entire village even during the day.
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>>2855236
>You should accept these cherry picked A.I. slop answers or you're problematic.
No Xir, I won't.
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>>2855237
Why? More humans=less wild animal suffering
Wild animal suffering is the worst thing in the world

https://benthams.substack.com/p/long-run-human-impact-on-wild-animal?referrer=grok.com

>Why you personally will plausibly prevent 5 quadrillion insects from coming into existence and the late Ordovician mass extinction was based

https://reducing-suffering.org/humanitys-net-impact-on-wild-animal-suffering/

>If you want to do some other practical things that likely reduce insect suffering, you can:

>Convert a grass lawn to gravel.

>Avoid eating insects.

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>>2855239
you're just spamming a.i. posts at this point
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>>2855240
>>2855239
Nothing in this post is ai
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>>2855232
>b-b-b-but my studies!

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What bottles do you like the best for re-use when hiking/doing outdoors stuff?
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>>2851589
It's probably a sign of severe retardation to throw 'metals' and 'plastics' into one mental box each and then make comparative claims about their general suitability.
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>>2851397
That's a man.
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>>2848373
The smart water bottle is the default for a reason.
Durable enough, light, cheap, works with the default filter, and an ideal form factor.
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>>2850674
I've worked years in various out jobs in different agencies in backcountry, like search and rescue and trail crew and wilderness work and everyone I've ever worked with uses nalgenes (or other brand equivalent) or metal.
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>>2849372
>dollar tree
>everything costs $1.25
wtf?

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I’m a complete novice in trekking, but I’m planning to do the Huemul circuit in a month. Every blog I read on the internet says it’s not suited to beginners, but I’m planning on going on the high season and tagging along with people if I think I’m going to get lost and stuff. I’m also training my endurance and stamina by going up the stairs in my apartment building with a backback. Any tips on other training and how to navigate this trail?
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>>2854688
carry 120lbs of gear on you*
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>>2854600
Can I just gain 120lbs instead
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>>2854760
yeah if it's mostly muscle and then you still need to carry 120lbs worth of gear
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>>2854600
isn't 120lbs of weight too much to carry? For reference, I'm 156lbs and calculated that, at the start of the trek, I would carry around 45lbs. What do I need that weights so much?
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>>2855147
Of course you can start with 45lbs. But you have to add more weight later on. When you are tired that 45lb bags feels like 80lb bag. You will develop better leg muscles and stamina by training with heavier bag.

You need that with long hikes

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KEYSTONE WAS THE FIRST RESORT TO OPEN YESTERDAY AT 3PM!
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>>2854990
are you rich or a van nigger
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>>2854904
Anecdotally, you can duckwalk for a long time up anything about as steep as woods roads ever get. Steeper than that, I have to think the hassle of skins is totally outweighed by how much easier they make it to climb. Some people use "kicker skins," which are part-length ones that you can leave on; a compromise. I haven't had to use skins for XC but I should probably try 'em. Skis branded as "touring" or "backcountry" etc. usually have less camber and more fish scales, which not only help going up but make it easier to turn on the way down, as well as having some drag that keeps your speed down. Just worse on the flats. I would like to mess with oldschool grip waxing because you can play with how your skis are gripping. Old heads also always say they're the fastest once you figure it out
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>>2846708
If you guys end up at Gunstock in NH come say hi, I'm usually captain of Panorama or Pistol.
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>>2854392
Breh the adirondacks are an xc mecca
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>>2855187
According to whomst? Faggy Yankees?

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I use a fenix ARB L21 headlamp coupled with the acebeam E75 hand held torch. Both are rechargeable by USB-c and the batteries are interchangeable 21700. These two give me more light than I can use and make a great pair.

What lights to do you carry?

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Where are all the mushrooms edition?
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Did Scotland have trees before human settlement?
Everything is so bleak with no vegetation. I wonder if it was different at all before people.

https://youtu.be/DUPmxW_GkFs
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brit/cave/ excursion to an old bathstone mine.
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>>2840644
Robins appear when loved ones are near :)
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>>2854468
Depends when you mean. More than 10,000 years ago Scotland was covered in ice cap and glaciers and didn't have any trees.

Since then forests did recolonise Britain, and a lot of Scotland would have had Scots pine and birch, except for the tops of mountains. Likewise a lot of England would have been woodland except for some of the poor boggy soils on top of moors which would have just been heather etc in those shallow acidic wet soils.

Humans cut down most of the trees in Scotland and Britain in neolithic times, around the time they were building Stonehenge, so by the time the Romans turned up it was actually not very forested at all.

We've always had fewer trees for basically all of our written history. In 1066 they catalogued about 15% of land as being woodland, which is below the modern amount for France (32%), Germany (38%) or basically any other European country besides Ireland.

There are actually more trees and forests in the UK today than there were 100 years ago because of extensive reforestation plans which are continuing. Where I live they're constantly planting new trees in upland areas (picrel). We almost have as many trees as we did 1000 years ago, it's increased a lot, from 5% in 1840 to 8% in 2000 to over 14% today. It has increased the most in the last 20 years.
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>>2854468
Also, I don't think it looks bleak. Or it's bleak in a good way. I prefer the treeless look, so you can properly see the terrain and the shapes of mountains. It looks better.

I've done hiking in Europe and elsewhere that's forested and it's boring. You can't see anything because you are in a forest, and then when you get above the treeline all you see is forest. I want to see the jagged rocks and rugged landscape.

Woods are nice in lowland areas, but for mountains it's way better without trees. And conifers are the most boring tree of all, just the same tree as far as the eye can see, concealing the landscape.

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Is there anything I should know to deal with winter conditions hiking? I've never been hiking with a significant amount of snow or ice, but am planning to do some in January in the Appalachians around VA, WV, MD, and/or PA.
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>>2855018
>You'll be hard pressed to find any mountain hikes with < 500' of gain
reeeeeeeeeeee
I'm sure there's something, and if not there, in the immediate surroundings that's nice (I am not open to the Adirondacks).
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>>2855021
On one of my Catskills trips, I poked around Mine Kill State Park between more serious hikes. That's an option for less strenuous trails.
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>>2854993
That's a good point, I like peanut M&Ms for snacking and buffalo chicken sandwiches for lunch, with lots of blue cheese dressing. I always have a huge breakfast before leaving though.
>>2855000
>Do you carry a huge bag?
nta, but I make do with a 24l bag for most trips, sometimes I step up to 35 though.
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>>2855046
Forgot to add, if you're buying gear a backpack should be the last thing you get. Buy it in person and bring all the rest of your gear in with you to make sure it packs well. Most reputable outdoors retailers will help you adjust and fit a pack as well.
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>>2854662
>am planning to do some in January in the Appalachians around VA, WV, MD, and/or PA.
yeah

you're cooked buddy

Okay, so i have like an exam in a very fae away city and i'm extremely fucking poor so i jusr have money to travel but staying in a hotel is out of the way

Give me some great advice to look homeless or atleast places to sleep in
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>>2853725
>go back to the city
>there was some fucking protest or idk what earlier that day
>pedestrian barriers everywhere
>well... here's my personal pedestrian barrier
>get all my shit up on that platform
>set up my barrier at the bottom so none of the lovevirds and drunks on the pier come visit
>didn't expect a flock of boomers all coming out at 4 or 5 to go fishing but other than that great night
>wake up like picrel
You got this OP
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>>2853532
t. newfag here. can you really get TB from sleeping on the ground??
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>>2855152
Short answer: no
Longer answer: you could get TB if you are sleeping in a puddle of spit that came from the lungs of someone with TB.
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>>2850331
I mean is it just one exam? Cant you find a bus/train/flying thingy that arrives a few hours before the exam starts and sleep in relatively comfy and societaly acceptable conditions while you travel?
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>>2850331
>>2855179
Or look for a cheap hostel with apps like hostelworld? Idk. Sleeping rough while trying for an exam isnt ideal.

Is 450 CAD too much for a 100% wool anorak? everything is expensive these days it seems
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you can make a shirt out of a cheap army blanket if you're just curious.
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>>2853848
your waxed canvas?
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>>2854727
yeah but he also looks like hes in fucking Antarctica which should be damn dry.
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>>2855144
I read that open weave wool allows fine ice dust to be blown into it in very cold weather. So the arctic explorers instead wore densely woven fabrics, or furs.


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