Do you swim in winter? the ocean doesnt freeze here but gets down to around 7 degrees in january/february at its lowest. today it was 9 and pretty comfy. i go multiple times a week and it has really helped me build up my cold tolerance for all /out/ activities. not to mention strengthening my immune system and easing arthritic and tendonitic pains.
>>2854292The only thing you've proven is that you're a gormless subhuman who would likely believe his own head didn't exist if enough of your fellow Redditors updooted that opinion. Now go back and kys, in any order that suits.
>>2849494I did before when I was a teenager but it would likely actually kill me now due to my heart problems. My lips turn blue when it gets down to 60f now.
>>2849494hell know.But two.days ago I went to a thermal.spring out in the field right between two farming fields.There is.a.concrete ruins , remains. Probably in the past it has been used as a public bath. But now only some.remains are left and a hose through witch the warm water flows out into a small creek.The moment I took my clothes off I started shivering uncontrollable. Even my teeth were rattling. I laid down in the warm water immediately.
>>284966999.9 % of females look exactly like them. Plain ugly.
>>2849494o. this winter has been great for swimming. it hasnt snowed yet, a few nights below freezing but the water has remained around 8 degrees. ive started a new game where i dunk myself and try to stay down at the ocean floor for as long as possible before shooting up out of the water. also i seem to be putting on more chest hair this winter, i dont know if i am just becoming a man finally or if this cold exposure is causing me to evolve..
>corporate wagecuck office job didnt approve my day off >missing 1.5 feet of powder on a weekday when the mountain wouldnt have been loaded with other wagecucks like me>have to tell friends I cant go
>>2858709As someone who works in a shop, I have to tell you that I envy you. You make way more money than me. You have a predictable schedule. You're not physically tired after work. I'm currently applying for low-level office jobs with good health insurance.
>>2858709>not callin out sick for flu to get a long weekendfucking pussy
what is the company number?I can call in an anonymous bomb threat for you (in minecraft) if you want anon :)
>>2858709Imagine being a frog posting redditor wage cuck. Fuck off faggot
>>2858709just buy a couple acres and build a tiny cabin to live in
>>2837828if the mechanism gets sticky, it feels like you're going to slice your thumb off every time you close one.
>>2837947i'll only buy it if i glows red when jews are near
>>2845931I just tell the kids about crocodiles and sharks, works here in Australia
>>2837836It's an amazing design honestly. The handle and steel are decent for the price, which is to say they are nothing special. The locking mechanism is a lot more sturdy than you'd imagine, but obviously it won't compete with a full tang or something like that.It's essentially the answer to an optimization question, where it's decent at almost everything for little money. Go into either extreme away from it and you have to make general sacrifices for a specialty usecase (which can still be worth it for someone, but it's going to be the minority).The truth is for all the "this knife can be put into a hydraulic press and survives" memery people do, how often does a extremely sturdy construction actually matter? Most of what I use a knife for when out is preparing fish I caught, cutting line or cordage, maybe cutting some tape to fix something, preparing food etc. For all of these uses, having a thinner blade and a more nimble smaller knife is an advantage. If I do want to baton some wood I still carry a beefier knife sometimes, but I rarely use it anymore.So to summarize: It's cheap, it's good at almost everything that matters, it looks good while doing it.My main complaint is that they are a bit of a bitch to clean, so you want to pay attention not to get too much disgusting shit (mostly fish guts in my case) into the mechanism or on the handle. Similarly the mechanism doesn't do too well with sand. Not hard to fix if it gets in there, but still annoying. Neither complaint invalidates what makes it great, just stuff you have to pay attention to. If I hunted or had to kill larger fish the cleaning issue alone might be enough reason to use a easy to clean knife with a plastic handle. For the kind of fish I catch, it's fine.
>>2840821based Grohmann carrier
Why do so many people die hiking Mount Baldy? Someone calls 911 and helicopter goes to look for missing hiker, finds him, the finds two more bodies also, https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/30/us/hikers-dead-mount-baldy-california.htmlNews shows someone dying every few weekends if not more. Its not like it K2 or Mt. Everest. I knew a guy who loved hiking, was very experienced, went hiking at a regular spot and just disappeared. I think I will just watch my big screen tv and drink my coffee instead of going /out/ in the cold.
>>2855866>Why do so many people die hiking Mount Baldy?Because people from LA are retarded.
I'm one of those almost retards. 45 years ago,, we hiked the backside of Baldy from CA Highway 2 in late September and get to the summit late afternoon. Now, there's no snow to speak of, but we need to get back before it gets dark and the area we're hiking is wilderness and on the way back, we see a male Bighorn which stops us in our tracks in amazement since we're only 40 miles from downtown LA as a crow flys. We're walking along a knife edge trail, where going off the trail more than 5 or 6 feet could lead you to start sliding or worse start tumbing down a 2000 foot slope. The sun is setting, but not a big deal as the contrast is pretty good from remaining dusk and we're 15 minutes from the trailhead.Then the fog rolls in from out of nowhere and suddenly we can barely make out the trail and in another five minutes we can't even make out the ground (there was no moon that evening) Neither one of us had thought to bring a flashlight, and while we made jokes about the situation, the fear was there. It took an hour to make it back and what saved our ass was that knife edge and some Brownian motion, that told us when the trail was getting too steep to try a less steep direction. We made it back to the trailhead and on the way back didn't really talk much on the way back be a use we both realized how fucking stupid we acted that we could have died by sliding or freezing to death.A few weeks later, we read story about two folks who were walking along that section during the day after it had snowed and had slid to their deaths. It was one of those moments where we both looked at each other and realized that we could have done that, too, without thinking about the hazards.I can only add, that the best teaching moments when you're young is when something almost fatal happens, and your frontal cortex goes: "U DUMB FUCK!". As you get older though, especially when you have kids, those idiot thoughts decrease. FYI, I later did CDT thru NM. Better outcome.
5° AT Trip, Am I Cooked?I'm gonna be going on a 2 night, 20-mile trip on the AT this coming Friday. It looks like it'll be a lot colder than I was anticipating. Could you give me your opinion on whether or not my gear will keep me warm enough? Am I cooked?WEATHER: Friday - 22° Hi, 8°Lo, Clear, 16mph windSaturday - 14°Hi, 5°Lo, Clear, 8mph windSunday - 14° Hi, 9° Lo, Clear, 3mph windSLEEP/CLOTHING:\-Trilaminate military-style bivy sackComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2858092-15c is cold enough that equipment failure or simple errors can kill you. If you had cold camp experience, it would still be something to be cautious about. The AT is not a good place to find out that you were not actually prepared for cold camping, because evacuating yourself will be a chore, one you may physically be unable to do without risk of death or severe thermal injury, if you soak a boot, for instance.I would advise bailing.
>>2858092Do you sleep with your head out of the bivy sack? What is the precipitation forecast?The gear list seems fine if you sleep in all your layers, but if anything gets wet you are MEGA fucked
>>2858445Funny you ask, I actually decided to bail because of the precipitation, which is gonna be 16in of snow. I also got a couple of pieces since I posted this. But yeah I would try to vent the bivy to keep my breath from freezing on the inside.
>>2858092You already cancelled but if you have a backyard or something that would be a good opportunity to test this. Concerns of mine just looking at raw numbers.Bag is '-10F' limit. If that's the actual 'extreme rating' what that means based on the ISO standard is something like '6 hours with this bag at this temp won't kill you.' It does not mean comfort or even sleep. Even if the liner added 10F (generous) you are still in the 'probably won't get frostbite' territory. If the full ratings are available I would look at them, because the comfort rating is often 20-30F or more over the extreme. For example, Western Mountaineering has some bags who's extreme limit is listed at -40 but their comfortable sleep rating is like 10F, That's a wild swing.You can definitely sleep colder than the bag with appropriate layering, but I would test that out. One if you cram too much shit into a bag you will start compressing the down and reducing the insulation. Two if you are like me you will find that the inability to move within the bag prevents a comfortable sleep. For this reason, my winter bag and quilt are oversized.The rest of the layers look good with the exception of a heavy insulation layer. While active you can get away with less and the rain layer will help with wind and cold air, but the lack of a insulation layer for the arms and legs will really suck when moving less around camp unless you plan to cook from your sleeping bag.Rain fly will really help with evaporative cooling but definitely pick a good campsite where wind and cold air won't collect.I would be concerned at -22F that the pocket rocket won't work effectively. I would also 100% bring a way to start a fire as an emergency back up. And overall you should probably bring more food, cold saps strength and you body needs fuel constantly.I feel like a shill because I recommend him a lot, but Aaron Linsdau's YT channel is a great resource and he 100% changed my approach to winter camping.
>>2858687I tested it since I posted this. Turns out the bag's 10°F rating is actually the lower comfort limit, 0°F is the survival rating. I slept in ~7° with only base layers, and my feet got chilly around 5am so I put my socks back on as they were sweating around 25°.As for the stove, I got a white gas stove, the MSR WhisperLite.
>crowded af>rocks falling on people's heads>higher death rate than DenaliI'd like to climb a really big mountain but Mont Blanc is certainly not my dream, despite its beuty. Grossglockner is much less suicidal if you have some climbing experience.
>>2852346can i rent a farmers' donkey for a week and walk around the region with it
>>2852299me in the back
>>2852299That was helicoptered in for a photoshoot.
>>2852732Your gay urges reveal themselves
>>2852108This, same reason why Mt Washington is the deadliest mountain per foot of elevation, despite it lacking altitude, climbing, or difficulty
Explanation: What Is Eco-Autarky?An eco-autarky loop, otherwise known as eco-autarky, is a self-sufficiency system with strong emphasis on ecological principals, independence from industrial supply chains, and minimum waste. Eco-autarky loops go a step beyond traditional economic autarky (self-sufficiency). Eco-autarky loops (through all-natural, low-impact regenerative methodology) result in the production of essential resources using renewable biological processes, easily acquirable resources and closed-loop systems. Each stage of an eco-autarky loop may provide useful byproducts.Example: Eco-Autarkical Disinfectant CleanerThe following eco-autarkical closed-loop system results in an all-natural disinfectant cleaner from excess harvested/wasted fruit/plant material, producing useful byproducts throughout 5 stages of production. Stage 1: Harvest or collect apples, pears, grapes, berries, peaches and/or sugar-rich roots (beets, carrots) in your garden or food forest. Use windfalls, overripe fruit, peels, cores - anything that would normally become waste.Stage 2: Alcoholic Fermentation (Yeast Phase) - Crush/chop the harvest to make a simple fruit mash or juice. Add yeast to the fruit juice then ferment in a jar/bucket for 1-3 weeks.Byproductive result: fruit wine or hard cider(1/2)
Example: Eco-Autarkical Natural Wood Finisher & SealantThe following ecologically autarkical closed-loop system produces an all-natural wood finisher and sealant from tree-derived materials (through the processes of resin tapping, oil pressing, wax rendering, and blending) resulting in:1 versatile staple byproduct (pine needle mulch/tea residue)1 versatile staple product (natural wood finisher/sealant)2 semi-useful products (raw pine resin, beeswax base)The reason for the effectiveness of the natural wood finisher/sealant is due to the synergistic protective properties of polymerizing linseed oil (deep penetration and hardening), beeswax (water-repellent sheen), and pine resin/turpentine (adhesion and solvent action). As the materials go through the stages of production and blending, the mixture gains durability and breathability. Higher resin content increases water resistance, while balanced ratios ensure a non-toxic, food-safe finish that enhances wood grain without synthetic chemicals.
Stage 1: Collection - Gather flax seeds from your garden or wild linseed plants for oil pressing, pine resin (sap/pitch) from wounded or tapped pine trees in your food forest (use sustainable scoring), and honeycomb or beeswax scraps from your apiary. Collect pine needles as secondary material.Stage 2: Oil Extraction - Press flax seeds (using a simple manual press or mortar) to extract raw linseed oil. Allow it to settle and filter impurities.Stage 3: Resin Preparation - Collect and clean raw pine resin. Gently heat small batches to melt and strain debris, producing a viscous base (optional: distill small amounts with steam to separate turpentine for thinning).Semi-Useful Product: raw pine resin (for glue, fire starter, or basic sealant)Stage 4: Wax Processing - Melt beeswax from honeycomb in a solar or low-heat double boiler, filter out debris.Semi-Useful Product: beeswax base (for candles, balms, or direct use)Stage 5: Blending - In a double boiler, melt beeswax, then stir in equal parts linseed oil and a portion of melted pine resin (or turpentine from distillation for thinner consistency). Heat gently until fully combined (1:1:1 ratio by weight for balanced penetration/sheen/protection). Test by cooling a drop: smooth, non-brittle = ready.Stage 6: Application & Curing - Apply the warm mixture to sanded wood surfaces with a cloth or brush, rubbing in thoroughly. Allow multiple thin coats to penetrate and polymerize over days/weeks in airy conditions.Versatile Staple Product: natural wood finisher/sealant (for furniture, tools, cutting boards, or outdoor wood—provides sheen, water resistance, and nourishment)Stage 7: Residue Use - Compost pine needle remnants or brew into weak tea for plant tonic/soil amendment.Versatile Staple Byproduct: pine needle mulch/tea residue (for garden mulch, natural pest deterrent, or nutrient cycling)
>>2856991Sooo... you recommend... in order to consume less or even be 'independent from industrial supply chains', people should go and buy or even order from amazon: >wide mouth vessel>cellulose pellicle with acetobacter bacteriaor>wine or cider>breathable cloth>shallow jar>essential oils harvested from lavenderin order to conduct something akin to a science fair experiment just once and then find they won't be doing that again because they had no need to begin with, it's too much hassle and the product really sucked.Understandable.C'mon knee gga. Who are you fooling, yourself? People either live far removed from the modern world (they usually have one primary goal in life: Modern living conditions) and know their shit or peoe are townsfolk and will follow such instructables once to feel like a hippie or feel good about themselves like that one time where they walked somewhere instead driving their car or paid for the CO2 compensation option whem ordering>breathable clothor shit. Ironically they will use more ressources and cause more emissions as they had if they either just bought their shit if they even really needed it instead of finding some instructable to occupy their idle hands on a saturday.
How to take care of leather hiking boots? I bought a pair of razorbacks, but I have no clue of how to take care of leather? And how to break them in? Help me /out/
>>2858106Refer tohttps://www.altberg.co.uk/bootcare/leather-boots-for-water-repellency-leder-gris-treatment-videoBasically, leather needs both wax and fat, but not too much of the latter.
>>2858106Tromsø is the gayest of cities in all of Norway.>break inUse them>taking care ofI just use some generic leather balm that I got at the shoe store, works fine.
>>2858106To break them in, wear them. Around the house for a bit, then out for a few walks, then out for a few hikes. I don't have any experience with that brand, but the break-in period can be a bitch, so don't take them out for a long hike/walk the first time.For care, every time you wear them outside, brush them off with a good shoe brush. Once in a while, condition them with something. I like mink oil for various reasons, but if you are in a wet climate you might need something waxier.Congrats on the new boots, Anon.
>>2858144>otherwise you could piss into them unironically thats how german soldiers did it back in ze day.Or you could just rub them down with some bick4 or mink oil. Unless you're just really into the piss thing.
>>2858106>>2858106Tou have to apply lard , tallow in them.If it is real leather. If it was a fake, it does.not matter. In less than a year of use it will be destroyed.but for real leather, gotta keep it always oiled.
I didn't try to be an ultralight fag on purpose but it turned out all the gear I need for a 3-4 night backpacking trip fits in a 40-45L backpack, so I'm looking at options for backpacks in that range. Currently using this Gossamer Gear 42L pack and it's okay so far, but does anybody have other suggestions for mid-sized packs?
>>2855519Maybe Eberlestock has something like that. I know one of their large ruck packs has a lid daypack.
>>2855513Frames for daypacks are overkill, simple as.
>>2855256Granite Gear makes good shit.
>>2855519that's pretty cool but for me personally that would be too much work converting the whole thing. i'd probably just bring an extra smaller pack and use that. there should be many lightweight options, especially if you are looking for something in the 10L range
>>2855256the most important thinf about the backpack is its durabilityhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSm48oVCaWc
What is the most hardcore hobby and why is it cave diving?
>>2857021This is an only slightly exaggerated account of what it's like to get to the Hall of Faces in Hellhole Cave.
>>2855501Literally what the fuck is in there
>>2855863>Wingsuit base jumping:Soar like an eagle, amazing views, and if you must splatter across a mountainside so be it >Cave diving:Slowly swim your way into a miserable, lightless, watery rectum and just fucking die
>>2857915I mean the goal is to be able to swim back out
>>2855410>not take shit seriously, you die which encompasses a lot of overhead diving anyway (decompression diving, wreck diving etcThis is why I’m not particularly into driving. I want to just swim about and look at things. O2 toxicity, N2 toxicity, decompression. I wish the body was built to handle it. Shame I can’t spontaneously go for a day out in the Norwegian trench and go poke about in some sunk ship or look at the marine life.Hope some does some genetic engineering gets done and we can accomplish that with free diving. I’ve the same sentiment on recreational aircraft.
Do you like exploring caves? What sort of caves have you been in?
>>2854968Yeah mate done it twice this year funnily enough.
>>2853263Me too! OPs whore of a mother really gets around I guess.
All our caves are flooded but they’re pretty fun to dive in. Florida is great for aquatic spelunking
>>2855949I snorkled this exact one - devil's den - shit was cash
>>2858107That’s it. It’s a great dive spot too, a lot of people do their certification dives there
/qtddtot/ - Questions that don’t deserve their own thread>>2793358 (I think)
>>2854496Personally I use wool for my upper-body inner, mid and outer layers. If it's going to rain/is very windy then I just put on my rain coat.
How exactly do sleeping bag temperature rating work?The ones I've found usually list a minimum and optimal temperature. I'm assuming the minimum is how could it can get before you'll start feeling cold and the optimal indicates at which temp you'll be feeling cozy and I guess is useful to know, so you don't sweat in it if you plan to use it in warmer weather.Do these ratings assume you'll be sleeping naked? So could I push the minimum temperature further down by putting on warm clothes to sleep for instance?
>>2858389Why ask things you can do a web search on and it comes up with countless of results that are all univocal?Anyways:Comfort is where a normal healthy man is comfortable.Extreme is where a woman survives but gets extremely fucked up. Baselayer is assumed. Testing is done by heating up a dummy, putting it in a baselayer, in the bag on a standard pad in a fridge and the rate of temperature change is measured which directly translates to heat loss, which again is equal to the energy the body inside is required to maintain the instantaneous temperature.
>>2858660>Why ask things you can do a web search on and it comes up with countless of results that are all univocal?Good question, I guess I just like the human interaction sometimes
any update from cabin anon
> be me> Practice charting time.> take a lot of time taking measurements around my basement.> Take measurements back to charting table.> Absolutely fucked. > Repeat measurements repeat charting.> Still fucked.> Drop pen in frustration > North changes.> That was several hours of my life.
>>2854820He's just like me
>>2854433Sorry for off-topic but where can a European get himself a legit Cammenga 3H compass? Everything seems to be fake including """their""" Amazon store.
>>2854809He was part of the British regiment that fired the first shots of the war at the French.
>>2855515Not off topic at all. Idk but now I want to look into that question.
>>2854433Not being a dick, but I'm not quite sure what you're trying to achieve here. Accurately map your basement?Surely all you need is a tape measure. Why is this important? Wouldn't it be easier just to get the plans for your house?If plans vs. construction are anything like where I live, tolerances are as follows. Surely this is accurate for any conceivable purpose?Location on Site: Within 15mm of the plan.Building Footprint/Wall Location: ±5mm for every 200mm of length (e.g., ±5mm on a 200mm wall).Vertical Deviation (Out of Plumb): Around 15mm per two storeys (or 5mm per 2.4m height).Surface Flatness: Different finishes have different rules (e.g., U3 trowelled floors: <3mm abrupt changes, <5mm gradual).
can anyone recommend a good pair of hiking boots? price doesn't really matter, i'm just trying to get a decent pair of boots that won't bust a hole straight through the bottom like my last pair (my walking posture is fine)
>>2857805>>2857834in your position it will be difficult to find lightweight insulated boots for chasing down illegals.First things i'd consider:1) Wear wool socks. Preferably 80% wool but at least 70%. I use Darn Tough for warranty but they are too restrictive overall. Costco usually sells wool socks during winter. Prob best value.2) Switch out to a wool or heat reflective insoles. Something like this.https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DWSX3TW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3SJX7TTM3PAEZ&th=1&psc=1There's also thicker wool felt insoles from Canada on Amazon but they tend to take too much volume w/o sizing up.3) Make sure you're not overtightening. A lot of your veins are on the top of your foot so over snugging your shoes/boots will cut off some of the circulation. Even too tight of socks will do this. If your boot fit is too tight from socks, lacing, undersizing, pushing your toes in, you may need to go up a size. Sadly some of the suggestions above require going up a half or whole size. At the end of a shift your foot can also swell up half a size. Also as I mentioned with toes, your big toe in particular, if it is pushed in part of its circulation is cut off. Even though I wouldn't use them for work I found toe spreaders helped fix the circulation issues in my foot.4) If your socks wet out from sweat/melted snow, change socks throughout day.5) More $$$ but you can buy heat packs you can put in your shoes.The most popular cold weather boots you'll find in like Alaska are gonna be boots like Mucks that use Neoprene as the liner and above the ankle and polyurethane (looks like rubber) at the foot). Like picrel but you're looking at like 6 pounds per pair.If I tried to make the perfect shoe/boot that was light i'd probably go up an entire size on a wide shoe/trail runner and use wool socks with a loose neoprene outer sock to keep it warm and water proof without relying on dogshit goretex but that would take a lot of experimentation on models/sizing.
>>2857859For rubber boots you have a few materials1) PVC - Cheapest and usually not worth it. Tends to crack.2) Polyurethane - Second most common. Has the problems I mentioned earlier in the thread with hydrolysis. Water gets trapped in the foam pores and with disuse (using pushes water out) it breaks down the foam bond. A lot of people use them during rainy weather (a few times a year) then don't wear them for 6-9 months and they break down the next season for this reason. Well used polyurethane can go 10 years. However you also have manufacturers keeping items in storage for prolonged periods so can be a crapshoot. This option usually is the best IMO for price, durability, availability.--Not as often used materials below--3) You may not believe but most 'rubber' boots are not rubber anymore. Real rubber has a few issues. Exposure to oil/urine and other is hard on it. It's also $$$ and heavy. The pro of rubber is under the right conditions its very long lasting and can be repaired. Last I counted there was like 4 companies left making real rubber boots, and all were based in Europe.4) EVA. This one's my favorite. EVA is the material in crocs. Unlike the materials above, EVA foam is not impacted by external temperatures as much as the other options. Meaning if it's cold outside doesn't mean the material will radiate that to your foot nearly as much. This is why crocs have the cut outs for breathability.EVA is very cheap. It has a few issues. If you leave it in your car on a hot sunny day it can shrink the material. Crocs don't shrink on foot so anything your foot can handle should be fine for the material though. EVA also starts to lose its comfiness after about 500 miles.The reason I don't recommend it as much as PU is because it's hard to find good EVA boot models. I will list this below moreso but the better EVA models are made in Poland and Russia.
>>2857860>InsulationKind of like my earlier post, you need insulation, and for these boots for another reason. None of the above materials breathe. So if your foot is warm, it will sweat, and there is not enough material to wick that sweat so even if it's EVA when your foot is wet it will start to become cold very fast.So while you could get EVA croc boots or Tingley is the chinese ones sold in the US, they will only be good for a short duration.The poland/russian eva boots come with liners and are sized accordingly to fit your foot with the liner so you don't have to play the guessing game as much for fit. Obviously, getting products from Russia right now is a PITA unless you have access to Wild Berries or the Chinese Amazon, Aliexpress.The Polish ones are Camminare and Lemigo. In Canada they sell Lemigo at Bobcaygeon British Shop.The Russian ones are Torvi and Nordman. There used to be a fish shop in the US that sold Nordman but I believe it went out of business. While I heard these are only like $40 USD in Russia, you're probably looking at closer to $100+ for USA with shipping. I bought my last ones from an Eastern European country like Estonia or something.The problem i've found with EVA boots too is they're a softer foam than PU and since the industry is still young for them, the shaping of them isn't the most ergonomic. I've also found they sometimes like to put Rubber inserts/soles on these. The more complexity you add to a cheap design increases the rate of failure. I like the inserts more than the full outsole if you go with one over nothing (just EVA)
>>2857861>PUCan't recommend a ton of brands for these. There's ironically been like 3 brands used by people in Alaska but they keep getting bought out and turned to shit. If I made PU boots i'd make very few models to ship them out on a quick basis to avoid any hydrolysis complaints.For example you can see a well loved by Youtube/Reddit brand, Redback, that uses PU for its midsole is flamed with hate online for hydrolysis issues here:https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/redback-bootsThe companies need to include a tag to remind people to regularly wear PU as well as manufacture date to track issues with supply.If I had to choose one at gunpoint i'd probably go with a PU Lacrosse boot. I really like Sievi boots, but theirs don't use Neoprene/wool/thinsulate or any liner.Most PU boots though don't use a removable liner like I prefer but instead use neoprene. Usually the upper part is only neoprene without the PU, and anything like barb wire will destroy it.Like I mentioned in the materials section though, the best rubber boot products in terms of availability and easy to make work for a season or two without issues is the PU with neoprene. Is what it is even if the companies behind them are scum of the earth (muck, xtratuf, dryshod, lacrosse, bogs).If you want a cheaper PU boot look for Hisea. Some of theres are PVC too.
>>2843610What's the best brand that currently makes jungle boots like in OP's pic? Preferably with the steel plates but I feel like those would be hard to find on the civilian market these days.
Any TN anons out there?Know any good /out/ spots in the great volunteer state? Personally I am looking for some spots in Eastern TN in the Nooga area, want to go on a day hike, camp overnight and do some plinking. Was thinking of the pocket wilderness in Dayton, but idk their rules on guns and camping overnight.Anyone else been having fun getting out in the mountains?
>>2855487above caney fork (i think tn has multiple things labeled caney fork) in the scott's gulf wilderness areahttps://www.flickr.com/photos/cavertim/3032533761/^picture of the purported overlook'Rattlesnake Point is perched on a high bluff far above and between Sheep Cave and Big Laurel Falls.https://www.uppercumberlandcaving.net/Gulf/tour/rattler.htmlI believe it is where I circled on the map roughly given the description. There's also wilson ridge to the wsw of that and buzzard's roost on the other side (south) of the gorge upstream to the NE, which seems to be wholly on private property.
>>2855487also I think it maybe has to be right here because I emailed the land manager and he said the reason it's not *legally* accessible is because to get to it, you have to go through a nature conservancy property that is closed to the public; but the rattlesnake point overlook itself is on public land - he gave me that clueif you go to google maps or the scott's gulf park maphttps://tnstateparks.com/assets/pdf/additional-content/park-maps/Scotts_Gulf_Wilderness_web_1.pngyou can kinda see a little area of cliffy edge in darker green that's on the virgin falls state natural area owned land which is open to the publicfuck i hate bureaucracy
>>2855510If the illegal entry way is the one he immediately thinks of then thats probably just one that be reached by foot. With these plateaus out here you honestly really might need to do some bouldering. Get some pics when you go anon!
>>2855727anon, im not going, it's illegaland I don't even know exactly where it isor it could be overgrownit just makes me angry they don't fix up these views that people have enjoyed in the past
Park at the Ocoee Whitewater Center. Do kayak, tubing or white water rafting if you want to. The Benton McKay Trail can be picked up at the OWC for great hiking and camping. There are also great camping spots around the lake nearby.
