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The old thread went to page 11 when no one was watching. Too bad, let's start a new one with an outlook on future!

With France in the lead, the 90s and the 00s were the decades of the modern LRT, but new systems still keep popping up and the existing ones, both 1st and 2nd generation, expand. Except the ones that don't, of which we REEEE about.
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Zhuhai, Beijing, Kaohsiung, Dubai, Sydney, Ecuador
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Mannheim. They are very traditionalist, but not stagnated.

This also includes Ludwigshafen across the river, the "Upper Rhine Railway", an interurban like service and connected through it also a smaller, but independent system in Heidelberg.
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Couldn't help but notice the Kusttram's BN trams having a great deal of similarity to Melbourne's B-class trams. Destination Waterfront City (Melbourne tram book) makes a reference that Transport Minister apparently had seen low-floor sections 'overseas', and the BN trams later had low floor sections added, meanwhile low floor sections were prototyped for the B-class trams in Melbourne, but never implemented. Could Jim Kennan have visited Belgium on his trip(s)? I can't find anything in Trove - they don't have any Victorian papers from '89.
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>goes to rio vista
>T R A S H
t. ex-gf from there ;_;

Look closely
Am i meant to see a plane?
I think OP believes it looks like a penis.
Made me think of a cigarette
I want one
Miss me with that gay shit

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Add your ideas on how would you improve rail efficency around the world since it is objectively the best transportation system if you discount teleportation or other "interesting" means.
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>m-muh property!!!
guy you're replying to is a literal nazi yet you manage to be even more intolerable
trains are still terrific
Involve another business: Renewable energy is expanding exponentially right now. If the railways are electric the two businesses can support each other through power purchase agreements. Something else that might work: crowd funding of a competent builder. It may seem ridiculous but if you look at how tollways are replacing highways and that people are willing to pay for better things it seems a little more believable.
Tunnel boring machines and tunnel construction needs to become significantly less expensive. Then electric trains can be run underground almost anywhere. Providing mass transit solutions for most of The developed world.
Look at Japan. Rail lines are just a means to get people to the businesses owned by the rail companies. The rail operates at a loss. Though the transportation provided I creases all other economic activities. Leading to net profit.

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>this'll be the coolest looking train set traveling at 80 mph through western CT on the NEC
Why even fucking bother.
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Interstates are for cars though, and don't forget how 'Murican it is to drive around in your Ford F150 all around the land of the brave. And the armed forces are for muh Freedom, and defending 'Murica.

As soon as you start talking about High Speed Rail though, that's something the French, the Japanese, the Germans and the Spanish have dominated. It's more that the US is a country which values being first, and when it isn't capable of being first, it won't bother. Publicly owned transport infrastructure is not something that's as common in the US compared to Europe, and most of that comes down to the right-wing economic policies which favour keeping to the market economy. Compare that to Europe where the social democrats who have been in power at one stage or anther have funded trains, buses, trams, underground systems, etc. For these countries, politics is far more about serving the people directly than it is serving the free market.
> It's more that the US is a country which values being first, and when it isn't capable of being first, it won't bother

Hit the nail on the head
California is doing high speed rail so I guess we'll see how that turns out. To be honest though, from what I've seen so far, I strongly believe that entire project is going to crash and burn in the most spectacular fashion imaginable, and enough so that no one will ever seriously attempt HSR in this country again. Projects like Florida's Brightline probably represent a more realistic future for highish-speed rail in the US.
California is going to spend 100 billion on their HSR. Yet they are still using existing track in places. Combined with the number of stops. The trains will never enjoy top speed cruising.
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Please redpill me on the fat bike situation. My wife and I are looking to buy bikes in January, we have done a tour of approx. 1500km/900miles on hardtails with gear through highways, gravel roads, logging roads, rough stuff. I am genuinely interested to find out if the fat bike is something that can compete with a good hardtail that has a front shock. Maybe a short compilation of pros/cons? I would love for my fellow 4channers to help us out with this because usually people out in the 'real world' have no concept of an efficient debate/conversation and get butthurt too quickly.
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Loves my fatty. Can’t wait to get front wren 150mm/150mm shock
He's running screw tires in fluffy snow on top of loam. You get pretty crazy grip. However you really don't want to get close to those tires.
Not good on ice
Silly me
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>They are trying to pass laws so that you can get thrown in jail for denying climate change:
I'll admit that i exaggerated slightly but there really are crazy liberals talking about this.. all the popular science guys like bill nye and i think even niel degrasse tyson have said this or something similar at some point. It's sick and a clear sign that they believe in dogma because they are so defensive against blasphemy.
Oil companies admit global warming is real. Chevron just said it in court the other day.
Nobody is going to read your rambling, faggot. You post the same cumguzzling garbage in every thread, even ones that have nothing to do with any of this.
The energy cost per mile to drive a battery electric car (or a hybrid electric) is far lower than any equivalent gasoline or diesel car. Why wouldn't it be the same for aircraft?
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No one is saying it's not real, or even that humans don't contribute although the earth is getting hotter no matter what and to what degree is debatable. The main rational opposing argument is using carbon taxes and crony capitalist authoritarianism isn't going to magically fix it and may make it much harder for coastal residents to adapt or relocate, because energy costs.

>Nobody is going to read your rambling
Plenty do and I wake a few people up everytime i post. You're going to question your neoliberal dogma for the rest of your life thanks to me.

>The energy cost per mile to drive a battery electric car (or a hybrid electric) is far lower than any equivalent gas car
That is debatable and most likely false, especially for long trips factoring in the cost of a person's time. The batteries require tons of energy to manufacture and they are toxic af and **not economical to recycle**.. much more than regular petroleum products let alone biofuels. And batteries weigh more so the overall amount of energy to move a person is much more. And they require new infrastructure for fast charging stations which is even MORE energy expended.

Then there is the fact that weight is much more important when it comes to air transport and the weight of batteries will make aircraft that use them even less efficient relative to cars. Then there is the fact that range is abysmal for aircraft and the extra weight is a compounding negative.

But the major thing is that you just moved the goal posts. I SAID BIOFUEL. Biofuel can literally be produced in your back yard using plastic bottles and a bit of self replicating algae. If everyone made their own biofuel or if it was at least much more popular than today we would see a tremendous advantage because of how decentralized production is more robust than relying on central power companies. Furthermore the cost would be basically ***FREE.**** Commercial algae fuel could be cheaper than oil as well.

>new asphalt
>bus stop-style shelter every 20-50 miles
>runs through most major cities and tourist routes
>a new golden age of summer vacation

What would it take to get a bicycle interstate system?
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Because it's infinitely safer on a designated trail than the same two-lane highway that Hershel and Joe-Jack are barreling down in their shitty Chevy pickup.
those road symbols are not the kind for the car interstates. I think he's proposing bike paths that go interstate, not for bikes to go on the current car interstate highways.
It sounds nice, but it would hardly get any use. In the south they might last a while, but freeze-thaw cycles would require the rest to be maintained regularly.
It'd never happen. Our country is OK with funding Israel, Egypt, and China but we would be up arms in reallocating that funding for something useful to our own citizens.
As a cyclist I hate that I agree with this.

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Post your new CANYANs
can’t wait to hit the gravel
I'm ready
My babby hands will not feel a single pebble in these Flexidroops™
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> bent oury grips
> general colour scheme


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What's the next big trend? Its hard to imagine where the hype will go now that all permutations of fat tire / adventure have been tried.

What can they possibly come up with to sell more bikes? I'm expecting an industry wide crash. They can't expect to n+1 everyone forever
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And in the 80s with what they called mountain bikes, and then Grant Petersen stubbornly kept that torch burning for a few decades and completely fucking failed to capitalize on it suddenly becoming a Big Fucking Trend because he's autistic about dick breaks. Like, if he came out with a dick broke version of the Atlantis a couple of years ago he would have been fucking swimming in moneys and the order wait time would be 10 fucking years instead of a measly 4 months. I'd buy one right the fuck now if he would.
2017-2018 Chameleon fits up to 3" wide, with 27.5" rims.

I have 2.8" Maxxis Rekons on mind. Cushy on the back end, still climbs like a hardtail should. I wouldn't want them if I was racing, but it seems like an ideal setup for fun: wide tires + huge dropper post for shredding descents, climbs great, minimal maintenance needs vs full susp.
>And then there is the fact that people favor different things.

Yep. Contact points are very personal.

Also very discipline-specific. So when you comment "I don't see any point in handlebars wider than my shoulders" when you ride mostly road, but the comment you're replying to is about MTBs... maybe expect people to disagree with you.
40cm on a roadbike seems slightly tight to me, I would prefer 42cm bars, but Im still a road noob so whatever.
I have broad shoulders so ideally I should have ridden 76cm on a mtb, but 73cm felt ok...regardless of your shoulder width, if you try the neo-mtb geometry/trail setup at min you should try out 72cm bars.
It might sound a bizzare size, but the whole frame is built around it, youll understand after you try it, it feels like a sporty cruiser.

>2017-2018 Chameleon fits up to 3" wide, with 27.5" rims.

I remember when trail hardtails were big, early 2010s, people often opted for 2.25" instead of 2,35 or 2.5". Many frames allowed 2.5" but if you pedalled, it was noticable weight. Cushinging is in the profile anyway, and many 2.25" tires have huge profiles - check out Geax Sturdy.
>I remember when trail hardtails were big, early 2010s, people often opted for 2.25" instead of 2,35 or 2.5". Many frames allowed 2.5" but if you pedalled, it was noticable weight

Like I said, the point is more "have fun" than "go fast". And tire tech has gotten waaaay better in the past decade. Rims are lighter too. I haven't really noticed more weight or spin-up time.

Actually, just looked it up: The Maxxis Ikons I used to roll on weighed 600g or 700g for the 29"x2.20" and 29"x2.35", respectively. The Rekon+ in a 27.5"x2.8" weighs 780g - that's not a whole lot of extra weight for a lot more cush!

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Post Your Bike Thread (PYBT): Comfy bikes edition.
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Maybe ape hangers next time?
That seat is way too low.
you have reading comprehension issues. plane and train threads are obsessed with looks same as bike threads. this took me all of 30 seconds to find on the main page:
>those are some sexy ass sci fi movie looking trams
How did you strip the paint?

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the old one is on page 4 already

'lets hit bump limit this time' edition
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That shift cable coming out of the right brifter looks like is about to snap
Comfy Sparta Mojo

they're remixing the old Tony Hawk logo from his old Powell/Peralta deck. the kanji look like they're drawn like the old Dog Town letters.
>reverse mixte
kek, love it.

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Questions that don't belong in a separate thread
Previous thread over 300
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The 100 is the lowest road bike they have, with cheap and bad components. It probably won't last long and might be too big for you, try to return it.
I left my 1992 stumpjumper at a local mechanic’s because I don’t have the time or tools to swap the suspension fork for a rigid. He called me today saying that he couldn’t get the original cantilevers off the suspension fork without possibly breaking them... so instead he installed a front vbrake in it’s place with the rigid fork. He warned me that I would have to play with the barrel adjuster of the vbrake to make it not feel spongey due to the integrated Deore shifters being meant for the original cantis, and not the vbrake.

-Is he bsing me because he’s possibly not good at his work?
-Is this actually an “upgrade”? From what I understand, they’re both are still considered cantilevers but one is center vs direct pull.
Canti levers and v brake levers have different leverage ratios (how much cable the pull in a certain amount of lever travel). I don't remember which is which (because fuck rim brakes) but one combination will result in having to pull excessively hard on the lever to brake and the other will end up with the lever hitting the bar and limiting braking power.
I have a 52/36 crankset and an 11/28 11-speed cassette. I got thoroughly rekt on a mountain ride yesterday, can I simply interchange the inner chainring to have a 52/34 crankset (and therefore keep the same sized chain and same cassette ) or would there be more complications to this?
Forgot to mention that the drive train is eTap

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The mirror im holding concaves and breaks from the pressure.
The shards stab my hand
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Learn what a ton-mile is retard
I know what a ton mile is and I think within the scope of a Truck aircraft could conceivably become more efficient.
I bet dirigibles could acheive superior ton mileage right now if anyone bothered seriously investing in them.

Its manegment and admini$tration that holds back efficiency in transport

Until /n gets this, this is just another dead horse thread

Go to business school

Dear intellectual. Since you are so intelligent that you see the world in 5D you will without a doubt know to what this thread is dedicated to and why asmuch as you are right you are just the equal ammount WRONG.
(read this)

>An Antonov 225 is a kind of cargo aircraft. It burns a lot of fuel, with its fuel consumption being around 300,000 kg of fuel per 45,000 km.


>Boeing 787 Dreamliner has a max takeoff weight of 228 tones while it can carry roughly 20 tonnes of "cargo" for a small price of 50 tonnes of fuel. Very nice !!! Such improment, such fuel economy, such future....

Dont be retarded. Planes can be more efficent in the future but not now.

Now for a comparison.

>CSX trains, on average, can move a ton of freight nearly 500 miles on a gallon of fuel, based on our 2015 revenue ton miles and 2015 fuel use.

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Hello again /n/

Up for a third thread?

However I think the whole "unique locomotives" well is running dry by now.

Anyway, here is Aerolite of the North Eastern Railway which is based at the National Railway Museum in York. (As far as I know of that is.)
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Nowhere, it's a tank engine.
I know, but it looks like a tender engine.
It would be a small tender engine if it was.
it's beautiful
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I personally think there are better looking LSWR locomotives out there.

Such as the Adams radial tank but don't get me wrong, the Beattie well tank is not a bad looking locomotive at all.

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Perfidious Competition edition

Previous >>1128376
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Also, I should add, you will get a lot of experience onboard the ship in multiple places new mates don't have much chance to get better at. Since you have so many lifeboats, you are going to be very good at anything involving lifesaving equipment. And since you're docking/undocking every day, you will have several regular ships' voyages' worth of mooring experience in just one contract. If you weren't good at tying up before getting on the PoA, you will be after you get off. You also get a lot of experience with stability, funnily enough. On most ships, touching the heeling system as a 3M would be grounds for an instant warning, but on here the 3M is responsible for carrying out the C/M's ballast orders and for using the heeling system while the ship is underway to keep her level.

Another important detail I didn't fully grasp until I was onboard, the whole thing about being the bridge being the ship's brain is magnified. If there is any kind of emergency onboard, they call you first. You are responsible for dispatching whatever aid is needed for whatever incident that happens. It can get kind of hectic at times since you have so many passengers and crew. You get a call on the emergency line about once per day, if you're lucky. But you get all the benefits of being on a cruise ship while getting paid to be there, so it evens out out.

Another neat detail is that the bridge control station is more like an airplane's than a ship's. It's even literally called a cockpit. And yes, those are Recaro seats. When your C/M has pull with Corporate, he can get shit done.
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granted I've only got a very limited experience being on the bridge of a cruise ship, but why does it seem like the atmosphere is so much more tense on a cruise ships bridge?
while I was interning with the local pilots, the bridges of the cargo ships always seemed way more laid back than on the cruise ship.

also are you allowed to mingle with passengers while off watch?
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I just had typed up a long response to the first question but then Firefox crashed and I lost it. Long story short, cruise ships are more rigidly professional during manuevering, and people are more on-edge because of the valuable cargo they're carrying. The arrival/departure checklists aren't just a meme to be completed afterwards on a cruise ship; you have to actually follow that thing to the letter.

>also are you allowed to mingle with passengers while off watch?
Yes/no. As an officer, I have full pax access (although I always come second to a passenger when it comes to getting service) while I'm in uniform, and I can eat in the main buffet for free. I can eat in the other restaurants too, but those get charged to my crew account.

Also, you can't really fraternize with the passengers. If they talk to you, you can respond back, but you can't just go like "Sup babe, I'm the Third Officer, can I get your number?" and butt into conversations you're not a part of.

The row of magnets at the bottom of this picture are all the overboard valves we have for controlled discharges. Both the bridge and the engine control room track them at all times.
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