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Dutch town cancels driverless bus trial after two days.... Because they for some shitty reason decided the busses should be driving in the bicycle lanes. And the buses didnt know how to behave around bicycles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37RlFnraMO4

In dutch. I dont speak dutch either. But you get the point.
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>>1010394
... But still on an upright dutch-style bike.

I get the whole idea about being able to hold an umbrella while you bike. But they still make terrible commuter bikes
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>>1010017
All this driverless fever is about money. With no drivers there is noo need to hire a driver, and if you need a person at the cabin to push some button, you will hire random people with the minimal salary. Imagine what will happen to all these truck drivers, they are probably going to lose their jobs, specially if they work for big companies who can afford the tecnology, same with boats, trains, and planes in far future. Driverless tecnology is basically developed to jewing the industry, it's not about being safer or better for the people, it's about fucking money.
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Wtf is that language, Jesus christ its awful
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>>1010435
Why would you say that? You think upright style bikes are made to easily hold an umbrella?

You're probably american. You don't know shit about bikes or cycling. Look at this board with your stupid race bikes converted to ....well shit basically.
Any average dutch commuter bike is better than your ameritard bikes.
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>>1010508
>Any average dutch commuter bike is better than your ameritard bikes
They have massive design flaws though.
>steel fenders=rusty broken fenders and fender posts
>westwood/westrick rims in the year 2016
>New bikes having such fat tires while the frame/fender isnt accommodated to have them.want to tension your chain?GOOD LUCK IMMA GO RUB ON THE FENDERS BITCH,btw fender is fixed:^)
>Ill fitting spoke heads on thin hub flanges(think nexus 3 and shimano coaster brake hubs)and uneven,inadequate tensioned spokes leads to spoke breakages everywhere all the time.
>Union and the "A"-brand batavus brand uses rim tape that behaves like electrical tape,on double wall rims its distorts and ruptures with properly inflated tires.
>shitty ABS plastic used on chain cases.ABS is suseptible to UV degradation and the hooks that hold it together snap
>Cortina uses tires so shitty(deli) that they discolor and form cracks after as little as 2 months,they also state they are 47-622 while they always measure 40-622,actually putting on 47mm tires makes the fenders rub against the tire

I could go on,but I'm drunk on tire sealant.

>>1010468
It's literally dutch,read teh OP

/pybt/
Post you're bike

old one is at limit
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>>1010466
It looks like the stem may actually hit, either that or he switched from drops and couldn't be bothered/forgot to remove the tape. If it was really an issue he could just raise the stem and use flat bars (he should use flat bars any way so it doesn't look so goofy, that said he's a dumbass that rides a brakeless fixie on the road).
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>>1010456
shit bike
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>>1010347
>fixie
>straps
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>>1010459
Lol shut up you haven't been riding that thing for 20 years, you just pulled it out of the garage

btw those shocks are fucked dude fix that asap
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>>1010510
I have, im 34 years old, lot of the parts are still original, STX break/shift Kombo is gone. I had to change the elastomeres, but the rock shox ones are also dead now. Im not an expert, i have not found an other fork, travel is 52mm original, thread is 1 1/8 inches.

let's talk small-wheeled road bikes

where my lads at riding anything smaller than 700c? although that size is more or less indisputably the best for road racing, I've already got a race bike and would like something a little more nimble for urban use

the most common sizes are pretty much the largest, after 700c it's 650b which you'll see on touring bikes and smaller frame sizes. 650c/26" is pretty much reserved for really small women's bikes and, again, touring bikes. 24" is only for kid's roads bikes, and 20" is for BMX bikes and mini velos (a mini velo pretty much being any 20" bike that isn't BMX)

I really enjoy the agility of a BMX or even a 26" rigid MTB as compared to my 700c road bike. it's not just the weight of the wheels or whatever that makes it handle better, but the way your center of gravity is positioned over the wheels. I can't really quantify it with technical terms, but if you've ever ridden a BMX bike you'll know just how much easier it is to throw it around in an urban environment without ever worrying about your grip or cornering clearance.

what small-wheeled road bikes are you guys riding? 90s rigid MTBs with slicks? those are a great choice, but I'd like something with road geometry. anyone tall (6'1+") have experience with a mercier nano? $300 on bikes direct. a BMX with a 3-foot long seatpost? show me those bikes, lads
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>>1001955

I love those handlebars. How do they compare to other bars
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>>983464
So what do you call a 622 fat bike tire size then?
700x?
Of course not,those units of "measurements" are obsolete.
But hey,using that old terminology will get you soooo much pusseyyy.
All the obese Walmart womyn will shart their cart when they see you buy that (700c wow) GMC denali,
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>mfw today I finished a folding bike I was rebuilding during the summer
pics likely tomorrow, today the lighting is shit already
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No wheel will ever be the proper diameter to fit the hole in your sad pathetic souls
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>>1009356
finally got around to it
be gentle pls

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Are you aware of the Superilles?

They are this kind of attempt at pacifying road traffic in Barcelona. They take 9 blocks, 3x3, and turn them into one super-block (superillla). Traffic inside is pacified and you can have outdoor activities and such.

Some Bus stops have been bought away of them because only residents and loading and unloading vehicles, so that may be a pain in the ass for some users
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>>1009848
And this is my autistic dream pic, where both directions of the bus would run on the same streets at all time. Technically it's no problem, since they're all big streets where a bus lane in each direction would fit perfectly. However it would imply cutting a street right through the park, the way it had always been.
>b-b-but m-muh pedestrian space
>b-but m-muh park
>b-but muh NIMBYs hating on public transit

The northern part of the diagonal street, to the right of the park, is wide enough that it could even allow for a bus lane down the center of the road, BRT style, which would allow excellent speeds. Useful for a radial bus running from downtown to the burbs.
>this is why we can't have nice things
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>>1009839
Barcelona making retarded decisions about public transport? Say it ain't so!
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>>1009983
Well at least we're not Madrid. Check this shit out:
>yesterday they did the "day without cars" both in Barcelona and Madrid
>this mostly means some streets get closed off and people are encouraged to not use their cars that day
>in Barcelona traffic went down about 5%, and public transit ridership went up in a similar proportion
>in Madrid there was a total traffic collapse with kilometric traffic jams at the entry to the city
all the while
>Madrid has the 7th largest Metro system in the world, larger than Paris', despite being the 82nd largest city in the world
>Literally every last corner of the city has a Metro stop closeby
>Madrid has a top tier commuter rail system while Barcelona's is totally run down
and yet they still have so many fucking cagers that just closing down a handful of streets made the whole thing implode on itself, so badly designed is their rapid transit network. You can't find a better definition of infrastructure politics in spain.
>spend a lot of money
>get nothing out of it
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This is the full project for the whole city.
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>>1009992
I've read about Madrid's failed metro on /n/ before - i wonder if it was you. IIRC - the main problem is too many stops, meaning it's slow to get anywhere - and often needing to do multiple transfers?

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Should I get a Ruckus senpaitachi? And if so is it worth it to get a new 2016 model or look for an old one?
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>>1010443
where I live you need to register it but you don't need a license, or at least I don't need one since I was 18 before the 2013 when the law changed and now you need a moped license.
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>>1010426
>>1010443
>>1010445
what the fucc is up with the us, here you need to insure, register and get a separate 50cc license
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The Ruckus is way over priced, its listed at $2600 for a 50cc scooter when you can get 150cc scooters for less than that.
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>>1010460
well around my parts I can get 2.5 used super cubs for the average price of one ruckus and super cub will run on spit and spirits indefinitely, it's larger and more comfortable and the parts are abundant
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>>1010458
Are you in AUS?

I've heard of weird laws outside the US like you need to ride sub-250cc motorcycles for a year or two before moving up but I guess it makes sense logically.

Rich kids end up buying liter bikes all the time without realizing how powerful they can be.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beech_Bonanza

The Bonanza has been in continuous production for 70 years, longer than any other aircraft in history.

Let's have a celebratory thread.
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>>1008065
The same way 67 years old cars are still road worthy. Good maintenance. Plus you can usually upgrade electronics i.e. safety systems if needed.
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>>1008065
>>1010354
Also, probably overdesigned af
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>>1005356
I could actually afford that without too much trouble...

Just need to get my PPL first.
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>>1003308
doctor killers
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What's the purpose of slanty elevators/rudders?

How do you identify a pussy mountain biker
>FS
>No fenders
>1x
>no bell
>full face helmet
>logos and brands everywhere on his bike and his clothing

Remember it, it could save your life
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>>1010430

>no bell
>no fenders

No u grandpa
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>>1010430
>hacking on people who don't do things the way *I* want to do them, so *obviously* they're wrong and need to be mocked on an anonymous Afghani terrorists' cave-exploring picture sharing website
I don't even HAVE a mountain bike and I think you're a rediculous manchild for posting threads like this.

I'll bet you don't even *own* a bike, OP. What are you, confined to a wheelchair and to being indoors 24/7/365, and massively butthurt because of it, so you lash out at whoever you think you can get away with? And then you have to do it here, on 4chan, because you know nobody can censor you except for the moderators, and since this is /n/, you'd have to post CP to get your post deleted and you b&. So we have a permagimp posting somewhere almost nobody cares about, about shit nobody really cares about. Can you get any more pathetic than that? I don't think you can, at least not on 4chan. IRL I'll bet you're even more pathetic, though. I've known people with permanent disabilities, and they come in two flavors: the ones that pull themselves up by their own figurative bootstraps and achieve well beyond anyones expectations, and the ones who whine and verbally bully and demand because they think they're entitled. Guess which you would be?

Not even sure you're some permagimp or not, of course. But some kid stuck in a wheelchair is still a better person (and posts better threads) than you do.

Kill yourself. You'll do the world a favor.
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>>1010436
Bell is immensly underrated. You can warn people when you overtake or ring before you go in corners that don't have good visibility.

Fenders are a sign that you don't just ride on the weekend in hermetically confined save spaces, also known as "bike parks"

>>1010446
Nice copipe
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>>1010509

>needing fenders while mountain biking (XC or Enduro I presume) wet or dry
>needing a bell on trails with no traffic whatsoever
>or just being so much of fred cuck roadie wannabe that you can't even navigate the traffic without sounding your gay bell and letting others know how much cocks you can fit in your saggy anus (up to 5 rings I presume)

Ok now you can just get out for your poor attempt at shitposting.

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Beach cruisers, roadsters, and related bikes.

I bought a cheap Wal-Mart aluminum frame cruiser for $150 three years ago and it held up surprisingly well. Mine looks like this, minus lights and fenders. It is a nice bike for trail and off-road use.

Do you anons think cruisers should be single speed, 3 speed hub, or have a full cassette derailleur? Do you think a coaster brake is good enough? I like the traditional single speed coaster setup.

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Last one is about at bump limit.

We have a sugar barge going out at 6pm tonight that I'll try and snap some pix of
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>>1010015
You stand cargo watches like navigation watches. Different mates take responsibility for monitoring the longshormen at different times of day. Other than that, it depends on the port and how long you're in it if the captain lets you off. Container ships don't typically get that much time in port while bulkers spend weeks at the dock unloading.
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>>1010086
According to my boss, back in the 80s and 90s sometimes he'd have to go pick up crew members from the sugar barges at the local bars and bring them back to their tug before they were about to leave without them

He called us a "full service tugboat company," I keked

>pic unrelated but it's one of our boats that they got rid of back in 1991 when they got the boat in >>1008904
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>>996325
Deep water

>>996400
I swear I read that there's an oyster farm in SE Asia where they only use sail power.

>yfw day 1 of a full restoration and refit
Thank god it's just a 20ft sloop.
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>>1010098
where is that?
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>>1010356
We work in the port of palm beach, FL
I dunno where the picture was taken tho

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Old thread >>1003063 on bump limit

My question: been running 28c tyres on tubes generally marked 25-32.

If I'm putting 35 + 38c tyres on, would you worry about getting wider tubes as well?
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>>1010485
No. If you have a local bump, tension the two/four/six spokes directly under the bump by one to two turns. Then loosen the corresponding number of spokes on the opposite side of the wheel exactly the same number of turns.
The hub floats freely. If you tighten a spoke then the force is connected and applied equally to the spoke in line with it, on the other side of the hub. So if you have a bump on one side, you have a dent on the other. If you keep tightening to get rid of the bump you'll make the dent as much deeper as you're making the bump smaller. And as a bump is a vault shape and structurally stronger than a flattened portion of rim on the other side, you end up where you are now: you can keep adding tension till you damage the rim without the bump getting smaller.

You need to shift the hub within the wheel matrix. This is done by loosening one side and tensioning the other. Just adding tension doesn't work as intuitively expected once the spokes are sufficiently pretensioned.
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>>1010485
Also, think of the .echa ical advantage. The spokes are at a shallow angle to the rim. This means a small change in tension will shift it a lot, sideways. To change the elevation of the rim relative to the hub you have the opposite effect, where you very nearly have to lengthen/shorten the spokes as much as you want the rim to move. If you have a one millimeter offset of the hub within the wheel you're going to have to unscrew/screw a whole millimeter of gang, on both sides of the wheel. That's a lot of turns.
This is why making the wheel round should have much higher priority much earlier in the wheel building that making it straight. It's very awkward to work in the order you've chosen.
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I want a cycling computer, specifically one that measures power.

Any cheap recommendations?

I also want to get two sets of sensors so I can switch between bikes.
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>>1010487
I'm pretty sure you want to loosen first and tighten second.
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>>1010486
>>1010487
>>1010491
I've been trying to true it like this for the last hour and the problem does not get better, it just changes.

I find a bit of the rim that's too out, loosen opposite side, tighten the side where the rim's too out and something else gets really fucked.

I'm not sure the rim is not centered relative to the hub because when I spin my wheel it touches with the pencil I'm using twice, I think the wheel is just not round.
>>1010503
That's what I've been doing.

Jeez wheel building's got a nice learning curve. I suck so bad. I've put at least 12 hours on this one (first one) and I'm still far from finishing it.

>tfw i could just buy a shitty wheel to replace my shitty wheel for 70 bucks but rather learn how to do it
feels so good

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Hey cyclist faggots, I have a question

I want a bike, but I don't know which type to get. Google isn't helping.

I want a bike that can do both offroadin' and city shit. I don't want two bikes.

What kind of tires? What kind of frame? I'm lost here.
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post in the BBG, faglord.
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Motorbike

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Hey /n/
First time on this board, pretty new to the actual in-depth biking world (though I've been biking for eons)
Don't be gentle

Started in a new, smaller town, no car, I have to rely on them thighs and my bike.
Stuck currently with an old rusty second hand Full suspension CCM mountain bike, considering getting new wheels because everything seems about to go FUBAR in a couple of weeks, I can feel the very frame about to break in half everytime I go SLLLLIIIGHTLY too fast downhill even with my skinny manlet ass.

I'm used to basic bikes, road, city, mountain, even with Dutch bikes, but all with flat bars. Don't talk about BMX shit, that ain't for me.

My preference is mountain bikes because SUSPENSIONS. I'm pretty reckless when it comes to biking, not that I'm one of those cager rage enabler assholes, rather the "LOL DUTCH BIKE ? LET ME TRIAL OVER THEM POTHOLES"
Not that I can avoid it, being a Quebecfag means that the pothole and cracked asphalt life chooses you anyway.

tl;dr - Poor newfag needs help choosing a bike that won't shudder the sight of daily potholes, steep hills and roughhousing, maybe even snow.

Also are Fatbikes are a meme ? I'd kinda be tempted to buy pic related if the tires can make it up for being rigid, It's cheap, reviews are good and snowy rides sound more tempting than taking the bus.
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>>1009032
If you're not hucking off big drops you don't need fucking suspension. A rigid bike will hop curbs and handle potholes all day.

Get a bike that can handle some fat 2-2.5" wide slicks. Without the suspension you'll be both lighter and faster.

You don't want a fatbikes, especially if you're a poorfag. Cheap fatbikes are terrible.
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>Poor newfag
>roughhousing, potholes
>snow

Basic hardtail. Since a lot of serious mountain bikers are dropping their old tech for the latest trends, there's some serious steals to be had in the used market, if you know what you're doing.

Disc brakes: a must, because of crap weather.
Suspension: Get good suspension or none at all. Since you like plowing obstacles, and quebec has icy shitty roads, get good suspension. Preferably better than bottom barrel suntour.
Frame: Aluminum is the best choice because of road salt. I wouldn't write off steel, if it's the best deal in your price range.

Mounts for cargo and fenders would be a good idea to keep mud off of you.

Fat bikes: Out of your budget
Full suspension: Out of your budget


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Rigid steel 29er and learn to ride.
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Get a 90's rigid mtb with slicks. I got one last year and it handle Montreal like a dream. I also rode it down some gnarly mtb trails. I was scared shitless but it does the job.
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https://www.norco.com/bikes/mountain/cross-country/charger-7/

Had one of these for a loong time. Does everything. Aggressive enough so you can go fast, durable enough for any riding. The geometry is really excellent for what you are looking for.

Is there a good reason for getting a ht am bike in the end of the year 2016?

What is the ideal use for them anyway?
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What can I do to keep knee swelling / pain to a minimum while riding my AM hardtail? I mostly ride in rocky and root areas
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>>1010439
>garbon an a type of Ht thats supossed to represent anti-mainstream
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>>1010438

Get bigger tires, run less pressure.
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>>1010438
Well there are a very large number of possible causes of knee pain, however the most common cause amongst people who actually think /n/ is a good place to ask questions like this is incorrect saddle height... Move it up a few millimetres at a time until it's uncomfortable, then put it back down a little. Try to to pedal without too much heel-to-toe drop, think about driving through the middle/back part of your foot and letting your leg stretch out through the movement. Your may get cramps in your lower back muscles at the start if you're used to a shitty pedalling position.

r8 my fixed gear boyz. also fixed gear bread
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>>1009916
I think that person is using the linseed oil to put on the threads of the spokes as a sort of glue so the spokes never lose tension
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Ron kitching 64cm
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Someday
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>>1009911
>linseed oil
For spoke nipples? Don't. It sets and makes the inevitable truing harder. Use nearly any other kind of oil. Loctite and linseed oil has no place in bicycle wheels.

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Show me YOUR cockpit.
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>>1010423
Mountain Bike
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Only picture I have and it's too dark to take a good one now
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>>1010424
Road bike
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>>1010301
That computer was $300 which is more than the bike cost originally when I bought it used, but I have put about $1500 into that Bianchi.
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>>1010481
1500 on a flat bar bianch, where did the money go? post the full pic.


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