SS United States to be sunk, creating the world's largest artificial reef. RIP to one of the greats.
ruh roh
>>2028091It sounds like they ordered the additional testing because the ship is incapable of self-propulsion and they want to make sure it'll make the trip. Surely this is something they anticipated, right?
>>2028269https://www.nwfdailynews.com/story/news/local/2024/12/19/commissioners-in-okaloosa-county-florida-reflect-on-ss-united-states/77055937007/Okaloosa has $9 million set aside for transportation and environmental services needed before the ship can be sunk.
>>2027297Damn I knew it was in bad shape but I didn't realize it was that bad.They should probably just tear it down, though at this point I wonder if you could even recover anything useful from it, at least to offset the cost of the teardown.
On Friday, Okaloosa County told CNN it had hired a “naval architect/engineer to conduct stability tests which are now complete.”The tests were accepted by the Coast Guard on January 8, and the next steps include establishing a “tow plan,” while factoring in tidal conditions.The Coast Guard told CNN this week that “positive progress has been made” toward getting her ready to move.
It is said that if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. Are you one of the good ones, /n/? Do people say you're not like those other cyclists?
>>2030993>staggering energyYes it's a marvel of human innovation how I can move 4000 lbs 24 miles at 70 miles per hour on just one gallon of gasoline, and there are vehicles even more efficient than mine. The energy density of gasoline is an amazing and beautiful thing.Also, see >>2030994
>>2030834Yeah it’s more horrible than you can imagine.
>>2030834>>2031032i don't get it, to me that sounds perfectly normal?
>>2028036I think I'm leaving this board forever cause I can't stand this amount of faggotry
>>2031277Ok see you tomorrow then
I've been getting into the steelisreal, rim brakes are good enough side of youtube lately, and the clickbait has gotten me thinking about my next bike. How much truth do you think there is to these memes that say that high end steel isn't like the cheap shit I think of when I think of steel? I refuse to consider cantis and if I get disc steel I'm told that's no better than carbon because it's "overbuilt" at that point which "defeats the purpose". So it has to be dual pivot classic road frame made of thin walled fairy tubing, and no I will not elaborate because we all know why.So it looks like if I'm not too hung up on getting a name brand duende meme bike I can probably pick up what looks like a pretty good steel frame for under $3k. Possibly even less. But then I'd really have to go with some pretty narrow, hard, puncture-prone tires, and I just don't have the energy for that shit. I haven't struggled with inner tubes and frame pumps in pelting ice cold rain by the side of the road in years and I like it that way, latex blood runs through my veins. But TPU was invented, and that's caused me to begin doubting my faith.Would I be consumed with post-purchase rationalization if I fell for the steel meme? Are steel bikes and rim brakes the cast iron of bikes? Opinionated attention whores who need to have something to argue about at all times so they pick the most argumentative pointless crap that has a grain of truth that gets overemphasized at the expense of the big picture? Or is there something to this memery?Before you start your angry typing, I am a mamil with crabon and aero and absolute black and all that stuff, so please, be accurate with your strawmanning. I can supply some other personal aspects of myself if you wish to find something to be aggressive about but I trust I have given you enough information to get irrationally angry over bicycles.
What I'm finding interesting is that the guys with these "beautiful welds" steel bikes all claim to have like 10+ bikes already. And it's never, ever shimano on these things, weird. Obviously not out of respect for the vintage because fucking sram red abounds. They will gladly put second-best campy on it before a dura ace groupset.The takeaway seems to be that this is just boredom manifesting as a bike purchase. Steel and rims is the final boss when you have a bike that works too well, that is too agreeable to own and operate, and too comfortable to ride, too easy to pedal, and too versatile. And another just like that, and another, and you realize you're not spending enough time fixing shit, or sourcing obscure parts that cost 8x what a shimano would cost but you just had to be different.>>2029535What would you want an aero wheelset on a bike like that for? Like rim brakes aren't enough of a handicap so you want carbon rim brakes and maximum crosswind instability? This is definitely masochism.
>>2031205I don't know wtf you are talking about, since "beautiful welds" is more of an aluminum bike(old cannondale) or a modern steel/ti thing.BITD it was all lugged, and they preferred campagnolo since it had the historic prestige and was superior in the 70's. Once the 80's hit shimano dura ace was considered the up and comer which then became more dominant as STI and the 90's to 2000's arrived.Modern campagnolo is a dubious proposition, but BITD you could easily get parts for each one and they lasted longer then the french stuff. The japanese copied them until the 80's and by then they were fucking with stuff to make it better, which led to odd standards that failed like uniglide cassettes.
>>2031205my fancy steel bikes mostly have shimano on them
>>2031206Not sure where I gave the impression that I was laser focused on antiques, on the contrary all else being equal I'd pick a modern rim bike, but I would rather have eye-talian because of sex appeal and the options are somewhat limited and extravagant, so I started looking at used, used semi-modern (I use "modern" loosely here because of course anything rim brake and QR can hardly be called modern).Basically I'm a bored boomer looking to create a problem for myself and it seems I have found one.
>>2031237I said vintage(antique is 100+years old) because that was the only time campagnolo was the shit. After that it was 50/50 mostly with campagnolo, sachs, and other euros using campy parts renamed vs shimano.Of course the italians stuck with campy since they have national pride.If you are looking for a rim brake steel italian bike look for anything with dedaccai or colombus steel. My preferred options are moser, battaglin, bottecchia, pinarello, faggin, and many more.Eddy merkx makes some nice looking steel frames too.
>wears a rolex daytona while driving, just like paul newmanFine>wears a rain coat when it's raining, just like gene kellyFine>wears gym shorts at the gym, just like wilt chamberlainFine>wears aviators just because, just like val kilmer in top gunFine>wears tacticool ballistic nylon cargo pants when working, just like steven seagal in under siegeFine>wears cycling shorts when cyclingWhoa wait WHAT NOOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT YOU TRYHARD WHAT IF SOMEONE THINKS YOU'RE LANCE ARMSTRONG AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO TELL THEM YOU'RE NOT A PROFESSIONAL RACING CYCLIST THEN THE UNIVERSE WOULD EXPLODE NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
>>2018754you are fat because you cycle. pick a real sport that actually burns calories
>>2018743I recognize that bulge
>>2028747Sums up my feelings whenever I see lycra in the wild. It's a man-child thing. Very Millennial and pure cringe.
>>2028747>find thing you don't like>make an AI image of a bald guy doing thing>thing is LE BAD!!!!
>>2031243>t. picrel
THE BRIGHTLINE HUNGERS
>>2029897It's an automated crossing. The signal box you're looking at is a historic building, so it's left intact while the crossing is controlled from a larger signal box elsewhere.
>>2029898Damn straight. If it was manned then there would be three shifts, about a dozen people, permanently on strike.
>>2029945yeah, as opposed to those dozen people being unemployed for the last 10 years
Ho come burger seem to have problems with leve crossings every other day?Like, the object approaching you is the size of a house
>>2031226People who drives cars have been conditioned to assume that consequences are for other people to worry about (specifically, the insurance company and the people who designed the airbags and crumple zones), hence they will just blindly plow into collision-ripe scenarios knowing that 99.99% of the time, their assumptions will prove correct. Trains are an edge case which is why it's so funny to watch car people face the consequences of their actions for once in their miserable NPC lives. It's too bad more of them aren't dying grisly deaths for the delight of onlookers.
>i don't need fenders, they slow me down
>>2030683>they also protect your lower headset bearingI have a front fender on dropbar MTB for this reason alone. I don't give a shit if I get nasty on that bike but I got real tired of needing to deep clean that. I just ordered just a set of qd fenders for my 80s touring soon to be more rando-ish bike. I don't really want to have fenders all the time, but for riding in the wet all day I think even just keeping the spray down is a good quality of life benefit. My general preference to keep dry in shitty weather is rain pants and jacket, but the fenders are a good gap fill for situations where the ground is wet but the rain's not falling. I personally think full fenders can really look great on a bike too, but I think I'd only bother on a certain kind of bike.
>>2030678well i mean for the rear maybe yeah but full front fenders are absolutely necessary for anything else than dry climates. having a commuter without them is retarded. but yeah I dont use them on my touring bike or while doing messenger work because getting wet doesn't matter that much
>>2030677only a retard would ride in the snow
>>2031072I don't even know where to start with you
>>2031082thats a pretty racist meme you got there anon
What could have been done to save the Pacific Electric Railway?What would public transit in LA be like today if it had been?
>>2015105To be fair, that would still have put PE in a bad position once passenger rail started declining in the late-40s and those terminals started seeing much less usr
>>2011628>>2011630Is there any website that tracks the individual Muni street cars?I've always wanted to ride the Pacific Electric one but always wind up missing it.
>>2028236Yes, here https://streetcar.live/The PE one is actually out as I'm typing. But it's not really an original PE streetcar, it's just painted in the livery.
>>2028237cool
>>2020053>Yes but extensive doesn't equal good if it means to many branches with low demand. That's a bit of a trap. You can't shut down feeder lines just because there's low ridership. They're the ones bringing pax to the main ones. Back in the 1980s British Rail shut down a lot of low-usage 'capillaries', and ridership completely collapsed across the board (including in lines that were previously profitable). The entire network must be approached holistically.
Does anyone here like Baldwin/Lima-Hamilton diesels?
>>2024266Scrap them all.
They had some weird shit.
I was going to school online in Fall but this Spring, I have to take courses in person.Unfortunately, campus is 5 hours and 30 minutes away walking, and 1 to 2 hours by transit.Transit here is kinda expensive and can be unreliable.By car though, it takes 25 minutes to get there from my apartment.I don't know what to do. I'm too broke to buy a car at the moment. Buying a car implies not just buying the car, but also insuring it because it's mandatory in my state.Maybe I could consider an alternative vehicle that's faster than walking? Like an electric bike?The problem is I know nothing about these things.I see a lot of people in my city with scooters, electric bikes, etc... and there are also e-bike/scooter rental services but honestly these seem like overpriced memes.
Where exactly do you live? Maybe we can see something you don't see for transport.
OP here,Sorry I wasn't here.>>2030884Attendance is required in all of them unfortunately. And 2 have labs.>>2030936Alright, I might abandon this idea then.Maybe >>2030981 is right(I think you were >>2030593) and I am overestimating the cost of moving closer to campus and subleting the apartment temporarily.At the same time though I would still need transportation. Because I also have a job. From my place, my school is 20 miles north and my job is 1.5 miles away south. If I moved closer to the school I would still need transportation to go to work. And I have to go to work because 1) it was very hard for me to get this job 2) I have a contract 3) if I don't have a job I won't have any income.Without the factor of the job location, what you two are saying makes sense and I am realizing that earlier, I was disregarding this very astute solution of simply subletting and moving closer based on perhaps anxiety, unfamiliarity and retardation when it comes to anything money related. But there is after the factor of my job location I hadn't mentioned.Once again my bad >>2030981 if I did not properly consider your solution at first. On second thoughts you made a very good point and my response about income made no sense, since that's the point of subletting and getting the cheapest option on campus(in the end I could even end up paying LESS than at my current place)
>>2031134Sorry I am paranoid.I cannot ever give away my location online.>>2031090I do not live with my parents. My budget is tight because I rely on my job but it's minimum wage, + financial aid.
>>2031137It's Miami isn't it?
>>2031138Incorrect.I might be stupid for telling you that it is incorrect as that narrows down the correct answer to more options. But no I definitely am not in Miami.
Honestly, I'm just happy this adds frequency in Florida and on the Chicago <-> Pittsburgh routesIt's called the Floridian
>>2027711I don't understand the difference - the Chicago - Pittsburgh route goes through much bigger cities on the way than the Edinburgh - London routePopulation served is less in the UK, as it goes down the east coast, which is relatively lower populationI would say the big difference is that the public transport on both ends is better in the UK, so the long distance train makes senseWhereas you get your train to pittsburgh, and then what? How do you get to the end destination?Feels like that should be dealt with before proposing epic intercity trains
>>2019971Kek
>>2028399Here's what you are missing: London and Edinburgh are the ONLY TWO PLACES TO GO.The States United have a Million places to go, so people go all over the place. Density is very very low, which is why cars work so well.
>>2031002I mean, Europe has a million places to go, so people go all over the placeYou can still have good public transport with lots of destinations. And in that corridor from Chicago to Pittsburgh the density is very similar to many european countries with decent intercity trainsThe fact that the USA has shite public transport is a choice, not a natural result of the lay of the land, could be crime related, everytime i've taken the bus or train in the usa there have been some kind of fights or druggies
>>2031114Foreigner "knows" what the US needs to do
Look at him go!
>>2030816I Duked her Glou till I Cestered
>>2030831Based
>>2030752Extension to Providence when??Well idk if I want CT running my trains but I certainly don't want MBTA running their diesel shit into beautiful RI.
>>2030771you're not funny you're not clever that was just your mom telling you you're special because of your particularly severe autism
>>2031069Huh
Why are you destroying the environment with your discount bargain bin chinese carbon wheels with no warranty, when you could be saving the environment with the revolutionary new FusionFiber™ that come with a lifetime, no questions asked replacement coverage for the original owner? Sure it costs about 3x as much but think of the moral superiority it gets youThe only problem is it's made in Utah which is full of crazy people, which kinda negates the moral superiority, I'd almost rather send money directly to the CCP at that pointAlso discuss wheels and stuff
>>2023443First, decide whether you're going lightweight, hill climbing wheels, or aero,and if so, how much. For many people, they don't have the legs to make aero make much sense at all and should just stick with lightweight.
>>2030360the same argument against aero could be made against low weight. the more noticeable differences for a weak person will be gusty crosswinds where aero is generally a disadvantage, and stiffness, which is complicated in how it plays out, but again, assuming the cyclist is not incredibly strong, it's a wash at best, perhaps slightly advantageous in the handling characteristics. really the rim width is going to make the biggest difference in how the bike rides if you're not very strong
>>2030360>For many people, they don't have the legs to make aero make much sense at all and should just stick with lightweight.Iunno man , it's true that aero wheels really come into their own fanging it on the flat, but ime it's usually weak beginners who are more interested in the 'i can ride 40km/h for 2 minutes!' version of being fast and who would actually be mindblown by aero wheels
From 1-10 how nice are Mavic Open Pro's compared to other aluminum rims? My understanding is that they were pretty popular in their time.
>>2031102If you're talking the new ones with the UST designation they're fine. I wouldn't bother with the old ones unless you have a vintage build and you're trying to be as old timey as possible
These guys passed you on the last big hill before the cafe. Didn't even take pulls. What do you tell these Freds to not seem mad?
>>2030506>Cippolini couldn't suck dicks at all! That's why he was awesome at actual sports but could never finish a dick sucking marathonYou are very much right, and I am glad you are.
>>2030967Yea yea everyone who works out is they. Move along crazy Go ride your bikeOh, wait
YIMBYs and people that don't leave the house pretty much ruined /n/.Where do you guys go now to talk bikes is there another forum? Or do I have to touch grass and go to the LBS to talk bikes
>>2030154"I'm tired from fucking all your moms"
>>2030978the entire internet fucking sucks now, there's no place to go. nobody talks about things they like, it's all just 24/7 screaming about whatever the outrage mill told us to hate based on our psychometric profile, and of course bots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic4IxdADLcY
>>2030751Engine parts, I would assume
>>2030751>You're probably wondering how I got here
2 planes crashing is always pilots fault
>>2030971air boss was underqualified and out of his depth and if they had more stringent rules for flight paths it never would've happened.
>>2028262>This was a common sight over Europe in WW2Pretty wild>>2030751"oh god, oh fuck— ground"
It's Saigon's first metro you idiots.
>>2029231Is that in china or japan
>>2030942Depends when you're asking.
>>2029231>He called it Saigon.
>>2030997"saigon" is perfectly acceptable outside of contracts and treaties and shit like that
