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where do you see yourself in 2031?
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>>3689005
which one
from patreon or gumroad?
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I hope by then I'll have won the lottery and drew my comic
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>>3689064
Yeah I do not want to die

And people say it takes 10 years to master art and I started taking art seriously this year so that’s how I got 2028
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>>3687287
that's how it works. construction is quick
the first 90% of the work takes 10% of the time, etc, etc
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>>3689005
Of course not. Why do you want that?

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Can we have a thread about drawing from imagination? I've been reading up on it and throughout history many artists have spoken very fondly of it, and there where even some formalized methods for teaching it. It fell out of favor with the advent of camera's, unfortunately.
Generally, the methodology seems to involve you analyzing an image/object for some time, then drawing it from memory, and analyzing the image/object again. Repeat the process for however times you deem necessary.
Something similar can be done where you draw something from reference, put away the ref and do it from memory, and then draw it from reference again.
This process seems pretty consistent across all the material I've seen so far, with slight variations.
I know of 'cognitive drawing' (pic related) which is very similar to the above expect there's an extra step where you draw something from memory first, before getting a ref. This is also almost exactly the same to something tehmeh once recommend.
So, have you ever done similar exercises? Any thoughts on the matter?
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going off how my brain works, images collect over time in my head. then it just gets applied like without effort when i want to do something, but its usually just pieces that i remember.
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>>3688160
also idk why but i always see mistakes better when i post them publicly, i get more concious like now i notice that fucking shoulder is too far back
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The shrimp study is somewhat related. I didn't really studied anything before drawing it untill I did this. It's common sense, but I apparently needed this to slap me in the face.

>>3688166
This so much.
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It's ya boy OP. I decided to be proactive, so I did an experiment myself. I observed the reference picture of Mickey Mouse for 5 minutes, then I would put it away and attempt to draw it from imagination. As you can see I did this four times. The end result is still shit, but I think the incremental improvement is interesting. If I kept this up I'm sure I could replicate the image more accurately, I just stopped at four attempts because I got tired. This exercise was pretty mentally taxing.
Next up, I think I'll try actually drawing the ref instead of pure mental observation, before doing the memory drawing. See how that goes.

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IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

Previous Thread >>3680125 → → → #

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
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>screenshot the image and post that instead
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>change camera capture settings to something smaller
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>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance when you haven't even started

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>>3689254
>doesn't offer an alternative
Alright, keep your secrets.
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construction thingy. why does his head look so fucked? like he's ashamed?
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>>3689278
>>3689277
my bad my bad
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>>3688448
>draws weird dragon head to avoid drawing a face
Yeeep. I think I want to try this piece again. Most of the weight is supposed to be on the right leg, with the left acting as a balance. How can I make her more stable?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ2tfyfEdlc
What do you guys think about these youtube "art teachers"?
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>>3689229
>25 minutes
no thank u

also
>someone took the time to make this
it was probably (you)
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Other than his weird style, is sycra generally reliable? He has a series on lighting and stuff that I want to watch
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other than the usual suspects proko,modernday,scottrobertson its mostly tumblr garbage that is 90% drama (see the holly brown shit that youtube fucking keeps fucking pushing in my feed)
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>>3689229
wow I knew there is something about this girl
but I didn't know she was such a lolcow
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>>3689229
sometimes i think about how many innocent people die in car accidents or natural disasters or get murdered by thugs on the street
and then i realize hc brown is alive, while they are not
unfair universe

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DRAW THREAD - NON RAID EDITION

Post your current drawing here and give constructive critique to others! Stop feeding crossboarding parasites free art in request threads!

Please make sure your posted image is clear, downsized to around 1000 pixels wide, rotated to the correct orientation, and that any unused space is cropped.
If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.

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>>3689168
where can i do that then. legit question, not trying to sound mean.
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>>3689178
/i/ or pay someone
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>>3688981
>>3688645
you might be addressing it later but pretty much the lack of hue variation in elements. .also, just hate the airbrushed sakimichan look in general.
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>>3689184
Fixing the hue variation.
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Sry for shit photo quality

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Anyone here have the wackcum shindick pro 24 or 16? Are you experiencing any issues with it, like the dead pixels from earlier when they were released?

I am planning on buying it this week, hopefully there will be a holiday discount.
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>>3689242
i heard theres a discernible lag don't even get one. wait until they get their shit together
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>>3689242
Got one in august, no lag and no dead pixels. Use it 8 hours a day and still on the same nib. Not sure why there was so much misinformation about that shit, would have got one earlier.

My only issue is that it looks like fucking ass for a 4k monitor. Blurry as hell thanks to the grainy matte finish and the colours are wack. adobeRBG sucks dick . Why are the reds so red?

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Please help me before I lose my marbles.


>Be me
>Writing a book with a group of friends
>All they talk about is their own lore
>listen for a while
>it's boring as fuck and the holder of the sacred texts won't give me specific details about anything
>trying to talk about my own lore to them
>they find some things interesting, but most of it goes over their heads
>writing a sci-fi thing by the way
>getting tired of their shit
>how can I grab their attention with it?
>notice that I have trouble explaining my shit to them
>I stutter a lot too

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>>3687330
its a really slow board but worth a shot, if it doesn't work out maybe I can try again some other time on /co/
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>>3687340
If a writing thread doesn't work on /ic/ id try /lit/ at least once before going to /co/. just don't get intimidated by the philosopher freaks
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>>3687074
Op, can you summarize your book explaining the premise and struggle of your characters with as little of the boring bullshit?
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>>3687074
Did op bounce?
>>3687340
Also did you ever do it, anon?
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>>3689261
no. I'm still monitoring the thread very closely.
I'm just R E A L L Y thinking hard about the request >>3687570 made.

Who’s the best artist of all time?
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>>3688385
Yikes!
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>>3688598
This but unironically
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I wanna hug Hitler-chan!
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>>3688295
This boy
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>>3688268
Proko.

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Drawing porn is a meme, isn't it? I've fallen for it for years but once I actually immersed myself in the culture of degeneracy I realized that these autistic, often picky and unappreciative candy-asses expect professional level artists to draw their waifus for 65 fucking dollars when the same artist could do he same amount of work and get a $200 commission from a tabletop gamer who genuinely respects and appreciates the work. In fact, even lower skilled artists seem to be able to charge more for normie work than porn. Can someone verify? Am I full of shit? Does everybody else already know this and I've been living under a rock?
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>>3689138
I think porn is an essier niche to start into. As in, you could start a fresh blog, pick a niche like gay femboys or thicc cartoon girls or whatever, and you'd have decent commissions really fast. (I''ve done both and my personal experience was porn was easier to get into and I couldcharge like $80 for something that took me maybe 5 hours, which isn't much but its more than my sfw art)

Whereas doing more generic sfw art, even if it's good, will take a lot longer to start getting a small amount of commission offers.

I still think if you know exactly what market/niche you're going into, you can get coms either way.
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>>3689144
>>3689147
Shit.
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>>3689138
>Am I full of shit? Does everybody else already know this and I've been living under a rock?
I do not wish to be rude anon but I think you are full of shit. Porn is indeed a different thing but not necessarily worse, the market is bigger but also more saturated. Porn is about quantity instead of quality, porn is the "fastfood" of art that is the reality one must accept. Prices are indeed lower but the demand is still frequently there. You can get into porn way easier and specialize in fetishes, fandoms etc. you can get away with much much lesser quality work and doing 99% fanart only that doesn't require a lot of brainpower. It is completely possible because a lot of people just want sexy pictures of say their Wow characters or animu/videogame waifus or what have you. As time progresses new waifus come and the cycle continues. The downside is that you have to be constantly be throwing out content non stop and be ready to do some degenerate things but you are not forced to.

>I actually immersed myself in the culture of degeneracy I realized that these autistic, often picky and unappreciative candy-asses expect professional level artists to draw their waifus for 65 fucking dollars when the same artist could do he same amount of work and get a $200 commission from a tabletop gamer who genuinely respects and appreciates the work.
In my experience this is just flat out not true, there is really no difference between the two. There are shit people and decent people on both sides. People in the sfw market also frequently change their mind, try point out things you missed/did wrong, haggle and ask for discounts or deferred payment or payment alternatives like steam games or god forbid Deviantart points. Furthermore even if you are sfw, some people will still try to get your for weird fetishes that is considered safe for work like transformation or pregnancy etc. even if you put it into your commission sheet that you do not do porn or nsfw.
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>professional level artists

post some examples of this "professional level" work
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What’s different about your art?
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>>3688693
Nice
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>>3688691
it's absolute shit that everyone seems to compliment anyway. liars.
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>>3688825
what a fag, nazi are good, spam isn't.
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>>3688825
You need to go back.
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>>3688693
>>3688782
Have you read Alphonso Dunn’s book on pen and ink drawing? I feel like it’s up your alley and would definitely help a lot

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What it says on the tin. Post the worst/ugliest.cringiest 'meet the artist' memes you've found.
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>>3687684
i would suck his dick in an instant
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>>3689111
I know like i said i have some experience interacting with people who suffer from real issues. Its a hearthwrenching thing and its actually really insulting that this trend has caught on, it pisses me off. Every one of them should come to a session to learn to be thankfull that they can live a normal life
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>>3689101
>tfw have mental health issues that parents prevented me from doing anything about for a long time
>struggle to talk about it with friends or online because I’m afraid of annoying people
>see popular artists openly talk about the disorders they have with no backlash
I should just go see a therapist now that I have the chance but fuck, I wish that were me
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>>3687119
Thanks Brian, you're the best
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>>3689179
Im no therapist tho I just do courses with therapists present. If it helps you I can only tell you that every person has trades others would get annoyed about. I bet you arent more annoying than the next person. Everyone I know carries a bag of problems, some bigger some smaller, but a perfekt person does not exist man

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rate my art pls
how much meme potential it has?
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Would fuck
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>>3688910
He's just not that into you
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>>3688909
3/10
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>>3688909
Its trying to hard to be memeable which makes it inherently not memeable.

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Tumblr is killing everything NSFW 100% now, it's dead. Where to next for follow lewd artists?
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>>3689027
IRL is keeping him busy.
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>>3688234
Based AND redpilled. Porn is inherently shit and those who produce it should feel bad.
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even my 4 posts / 2 followers tumblr got nuked wtf
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I remember seeing something about copying your tumblr content to wordpress some years ago.
How is wordpress
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>>3689049
the tag gets its name thanks to wickr, an app that is similar to whatsapp or telegram but this one supposedly gives the user complete anonymity.

due to this, the app can be used for everything and is mostly used by drug dealers. but you can also send and receive all kinds of shit and in this case, you have a safe way to contact distributors and get child porn.

How do you keep your fingers warm in winter? I can't even hold a pencil anymore they are so cold
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>>3689190
Does your home not having heating and insulation
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>>3689193
No it doesn't, but this probably would also apply to artists working in the field.
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>>3689190
Space heater + chemical hand warmer bags.

Does wonders. I'm in the same boat. If you go the space heater route and you live in an arid climate, be sure to have a humidifier and hand lotion as well. Nothing's worse than warm, but chapped and cracking dry hands that burn every time you lay them on a table.
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>>3689197

This is something I've been wondering about as well. I've been wanting to set up around town to do some architecturals but it's fuckin' frigid up where I live and I really can't think of any way to keep my hands warm that wouldn't restrict my dexterity. Also my ink would probably freeze anyways.
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