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Welcome to /ic/. If you are looking to hone your creative skills, please consult these general resources:

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And don't forget to HEED THE RULES

Redpill me on Ilya. Some say he's a fraud but he seems pretty legit.
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>Most /ic/ doesn't like him because he is a one trick pony

not at all, if that's what he enjoys doing then whatever really. He is disliked due to all the plagiarism shit and straight out copying original works, there were even photos with just copy pasted big eyes on them. But the highlight was him critiquing someone on deviantart telling them how disgusted he is by the person for plagiarizing some animu shit or whatever,
his paintings are probably the grayest most stale paintings around, obviously infused with a lot of reference. So maybe the comics reflects his creativity
there were similar ones like this, and those turned out to have been based on photos. Not saying he couldn't just imitate photo exposure, but c'mon you know him.
He's "successful". That's reason enough for /ic/.
He's a good artist that most people like because he's consistent. That's the same reason why other people don't like him. He doesn't step too far out of his comfort zone and some people think that's a bad thing. Personally, I think he's just fine in his comfort zone because he only draws what he wants to draw. Like, he only draws cute girls and that's probably because that's all he wants to draw so he doesn't have very far to go in terms of outside the comfort zone so why should he go out there? Also, I personally don't care about him "cheating" because I care more about the art than the artist but to each their own.

On a side note, one thing I don't understand about /ic/ is how some people on here expect illustrators to improve while they're hired and working. You can either choose to be consistent and get jobs for your art because people know what to expect or you can study and improve where you'll likely end up changing your style and possibly alienating your audience. It's not very easy to do both. This is why shadman is about where he was at five years ago in terms of skills. Also, if you're looking for some inspiration, just look up old Ilya art because he used to be trash lol

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Alright, /ic/ any chance i stumbled on something real here? 1/3
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those look awful anon
Makes sense. I still dont get why someone would make a lith out of that though?
>doesn't even draw the face
who cares. clearly he's a /beg/gar
If it’s a print you should be able to see it with a magnifying glass. The little card it came with tells me that if it’s not fake, it’s probably a professional reproduction or copy of some kind.
could be a page out of a book

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Draw Art Daily Chums

Last thread >>3703139

>Link: https://dad.gallery/
>Backup just in case: http://last-artist-standing.herokuapp.com/

>Submit your artwork everyday (or your preferred frequency)
>The deadline for submissions is 23:59:59 GMT each day
>You should spend at least 30 minutes on each update
>Miss a day and you'll be alright, just keep going
>Have fun

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hey dad pull my finger
*pulls your dick*
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>steals your gains
This is a nice sketch. Something like that every is a sane routine.

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IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

Previous Thread >>3711432

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

>screenshot the image and post that instead
>change camera capture settings to something smaller
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance when you haven't even started

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alright thanks. back to it then
do you block in from larger value forms similar to the CTRLpaint tutorial?

Might sound like a non-critique but try being sharper with your values, and your brush strokes in general
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to further my point, your reference has darker tones around the hands, armpit, hair and knees than what you referenced

This partly adds to why you see might it as blurry

and notice the strap on the sports bra, you've overshot the plane of value, where it looks as if the strap is levitating or "muddy"

Perhaps experiment with a square brush and see how you go
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God you are posting it only now while I am going blind trying to work with that pic for ants producing this awful attempt. Anon why u do dis to me?

Jokes aside What I noticed compared to the ref is that the ref has a more hue difference at certain spots compared to yours, a lot more yellows and purples especially at the highlight spots. the palm the knee the arm she is leaning on the face etc. has subtle hue shifts. try to experiment with that

Th other thing I can suggest if you paint skin is to make a brush that imitates the texture of the skin, if you close up to her leg you can see that the skin is full of subtle dots. You could try to experiment and create a brush that imitates this or just do what many animu artists do and throw a screen noise filter on it and then decrease its opacity and maybe add a bit of color here and there.

I put up the brushed I have for reference
1) basic hard
2) circle pressure sensitive
3) same as 2 but with a square shape
4) same as 3 but the square shape has a 20% random direction jitter
5) same as 3 but the square shape has a 20% hardness jitter

I got to like the 4th to imitate some brushwork or to make the edges less hard but still not completely blurred smooth.

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Then just work on higher resolution anon, and reduce it back to like 50% smaller size while keeping the same rez after you are done to make it look crisp. That is a standard in digital art even in graphic design.

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Surely you have impoved, right anon?
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tenk you p a l

Ugh I hate drawing with my arm
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thanks mate
>has made more progress than you have in 3 years
What on earth?
Love this style. Glad it's still around.

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"Making it" is 90% luck.

If you remember Youtube back in 2008-2012, you may remember Pewdiepie gaining popularity around that time. To this day, people have tried to figure out what he did that got him to become so famous.

You can analyze it all you want, using as many subjective or objective observations as you can make. He's funny, or he's entertaining. But there are plenty of people who do exactly what he does. So, why him? Why did he get super-stardom while everyone else was left in the dust, with only a handful managing to be successful riding his tailwind?

Luck. He got noticed. That is literally it. Whether it's a girlfriend/boyfriend, a video game, a TV show, or an internet personality, people always have "their guy". More often than not, popularity is like a snowball. Once it gains traction, it just keeps rolling faster and faster, getting bigger and bigger. Nothing seems to be able to stop it.

And now, to route this conversation towards what we actually give a fuck about. Making it in art.

If you've ever been to patreon and really looked around, you may have noticed that there are many sakimichan-type artists out there. But, there are only a couple that "hit it big". It's the same effect. Sakimichan got noticed. That's it. Does it matter that she's very skilled? A little.

Have you analyzed the mid-range to mediocre tier of artists on patreon? It's the same thing. A sea of unnoticed artists, a handful of successful ones and one or two superstars. What makes the superstars so much more successful than the other ones if they're just as mediocre as the others?

Luck. They got noticed.

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" It's not a very nice reality because it feels cheap, unfair and takes a lot of control away from one's destiny"

Which is why I still maintain that if someone wants to make it big, the ONE thing in their control is their skill. You can spend forever trying to market a shitty product no one cares about, or you can grind your ass off and have your product start marketing itself.
I should clarify. Success needs to be defined by the individual. Is success simply a viewer complimenting your work? Is it having your work displayed publicly? Perhaps becoming famous? It varies by degree, person to person. So in my instance, in the context of my argument, I define "making it" as being the "new big thing".

So no, I'm not claiming success is dependent on luck. I'm claiming that my definition of success, that being becoming huge, is dependent on luck. Essentially, uncontrollable circumstances. You can plug your brand anywhere as often as you like, as many people have, it doesn't mean you'll become noticed or chosen.
Fair enough, I agree with that. But I will say that "quality" is not as important as you may think.
Defining success as "being the next big thing" is a flawed idea in my opinion.
By that very definition, in any given specific field, one or two people are gonna "make it" every decade. So of course being the top of the top will often come down to events outside of one's control, aka luck.
Pewdiepie's success wasn't a mystery at all. The guy was early to adopt a trend that became huge later, e.g. Gaming/reaction videos, put out consistently similar content, and posted multiple times a day for fucking years.

Anyone can do 2 and 3, there's luck involved in the first one but you also don't have to do it totally blind, you can do your own research and keep a close eye on other creators to get on new trends early.
you understand that "making it" to a majority of /ic/ isn't about being the best artist in the world with hundreds of thousands or millions of followers right? "making it" is either personal goals or making a living off of it. follower count is only looked at so people can feel comfortable about making commissions and living off those. which is a feasible goal for most of /ic/

what do i do if i want to be good at art but am not creative?

every time i come to sit down and draw i end up mindlessly copying

no drugs
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If you cant create stuff for yourself, you should collaborate.
I strongly wouldn't advise this but there you go.
do something else, art is for creative people, why encroach on our territory, stick to your own kind.

but really there's no such thing as being 'creative' it's one of those weird fallacies people use to limit themselves subconsciously.
Shoo shoo kangaroo
Creativity comes from making a connection you hadn't seen before.
This does not happen in a vacuum.
Your imagination can only combine things it's familiar with.
The more variety of things you know about, the more variety of combinations your imagination, and the more creative you can be.
The trick is to pay attention and notice details. That's what gives your imagination good shit to work with.
So don't just learn drawing, because you'll only get good at drawing. Learn history, architecture, philosophy. Go for walks, and don't bury your face in a screen while you're doing it; pay attention to your surroundings and notice shit.
That's literally all there is to it.

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If you have any tips to share, or questions about Clip Studio Paint this is the place.

If you haven't tried painting with 'on screen mixing' turned off I'd try it now, I much prefer painting without it.
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cringe and bluepilled
Fun fact, I'm new to digital and never used csp to color because I couldn't find a brush that didn't nice colors dynamically. I like the good old glaze I can do in Photoshop. While his point seemed stupid, there are retards out there like me. Quit being such a tough guy.
>>Ctrl+Alt+drag to change brush size
t-thanks mr wizard
the auto fill maraque is pretty cool also making a comic that focuses on whatever theme you're drawing e.g. hands allows you to organize it better.
thanks for the tips anons

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Do you draw for fun or do you honestly want to have a career in the industry?
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Become a professional and make "the industry" my bitch.
I want to have my cake, eat it too and fuck the baker's daughter.
I don't want a career I just want to draw appealing lewds and hope that some day I could make a side income of my drawings so I don't have to grind the 9-5.
I draw so i can fap to my weird fetishes.
I want to make money anonymously on the Internet with good fucking art.
based go practice and stop posting fren

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Be specific if you request something: post the cover, book's title, artist's name...
Please be patient, board is slow, someone may answer you a week later.
Please search in the thread and links below before asking for something, it may well already be there.
All MEGA links SHOULD be cloned, they die every time they're posted here.
If any of the links expires or breaks, please inform of it.
Can't find something? check vk, rutracker, ehentai, cgpeers, etc

> Beginner essentials
See https://pastebin.com/riFtG6n0 for details

> Main Book Links

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Oh I apologize, I should of clarified with you. I’ll buy another book for you if you want. I’ve scanned through them quickly and it seems they already have english translations along with the original Japanese text. It didn’t take long at all for them to ship by the way.
Oh no, it's okay. Thanks for the info! I'm quite happy to own the physical versions as well, they seem like great books.
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Looking for "Alla Prima II" by Richard Schmid pdf
you guys are just treasures.. If you have a specific book in mind let me know, I might find it without having you need to buy it.

What kind of books are you interested in buying next, what can I request?

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Post good tutorials, pics or vids.
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Does anyone have a tutorial on how to draw legs & feet
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Some of doxy's toots
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What is the secret to drawing sexy feet?
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You aren't joking are you
It is something an armchair psychoanalyst with a very high (almost delusional) opinion of themselves would come up with
>Inb4 no u
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This isn't true at all. This is kind of thing pseuds say because they're trying to look smart.
I have a foot fetish because my sister tied me up when I was a kid and made me lick her feet
This makes a lot of sense.

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What is /ALT/?
If you're looking for a place to post your cartooning then you've found the right general. This is /ic/s 1st and only merged hub where both Eastern and Western stylization can coexist peacefully, hence the double title. However, by community demand and long history, this is favorably an Anime general.
>Rules & Guidelines
(1) Any form of cartooning is welcome; so submit and receive feedback from others. (2) Please resize your images before posting. (3) Share your knowledge and (4) Remember to not be afraid of asking for critique. Most importantly I encourage you to keep discussion at a civil level, but you're more than welcome to share your opinions.
>I came for anime. Why does the image OP say cartoons general?
To distinguish from the anime study thread (janitor supported). Please post your studies there and personal work goes here.
>Community Resources
Hitokaku Index
List of active livestreams
>Use twitch #art
>yoshikadu2011 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUx5dpO6d5gQ4KWNPc24CKw

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-photoshop cs6
-lazy nezumi default "subtle" smoothing
-kyle's drawing box animator pencil 2016 (i set the flow to 100%, it defaults to 29% iirc which is great for sketching but if you want a more final line look you want less transparency) at the default 7px
-hard round pressure size eraser (keep it small relative to your lines, i think i have it at 15px, gives better control of your pressure levels)
-cintiq 13hd (it has tilt which is crucial for most brushes that i like the feel of, most especially the kyle one i used to draw pretty much every line drawing i've made for the past two years)
-years of experience not only with drawing but drawing specifically with these tools and brushes

the cap i posted of that drawing is at 50% so you can get a feel for how big i tend to draw it, keep in mind you can just increase the brush sizes as it gets larger but in my experience the pressure level control gets much more finickier which bums me out but hey, maybe i just need to practice more.

oh here's that brush by the way (tho it might be sliiiightly edited compared to what it was default when i first got it of his gumroad years ago (it was a free brush so i don't feel bad about sharing (tho also he makes his brushes for adobe officially now and if you have CC you literally have every brush he's made lol))): https://www.sendspace.com/file/3esyze
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What can I do to make these action shots more thrilling? Especially the last panel, I'm not sure how to approach making that stab look painful beyond what I've done.

Also, how little background can you get away with in action scenes? This page for example. I should give the ground some texture, but what about the walls behind the characters?
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I hate that God damned red star effect I put there, holy shit.
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Can I get some critique on this WIP? I'm shit at rendering pictures out to actually look like a finished product and don't really know where to go from here. The fact that I'm rushing to get it finished by Christmas doesn't help
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I can't recommend any brushes specifically - these days I honestly just use the hard round brush (which is what I used to add all the little example details in >>3717176). When I used to make more digital painterly work, I would use a few textured brushed from a few different packs, and I would usually use it as the 'Pencil' tool instead of the 'Brush' tool - the 'Pencil' tool is not aliased, so you can get some really hard, interesting textures from brushes. A selective application of the Sharpen tool, or Filter > Unsharpen Mask can really make textures pop.

Beyond that, the texture overlay is just a hodge podge of different layers featuring textures from the internet, including brush strokes, canvas textures, grunge / grit, noise, etc. They're really easy to make.
Thanks for the advice, will update as soon as I get another chance to work on it
Thanks that's hugely helpful, I like the added texture. By chance is that an overlaid image?
aside from the more technical stuff which i'm sure you'll get enough of, it's a good picture, i think you subconsciously modified the dog to make it more person-like, which is good. and the lighting comes off, so good job. i don't really see anything ugly about it at all, aside from the drawing not being great.
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keep it up anon, i want to see your progress

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