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Welcome to /ic/. If you are looking to hone your creative skills, please consult these general resources:

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And don't forget to HEED THE RULES

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is it possible for a single person to make an animated movie?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgJoUuWtriQ
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>>2818704
Apples and oranges dude. The first one was made by an austist with no prior experience in one application. This one obviously has skill and talent and probably used more than one app. What kicked it for me was 4-years on weekends. One thing they have in common is they realy show how much of a cesspool of procrastination /ic is.
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>>2818162
not available in burgertopia, thanks for nothing.
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>>2818024
Yeah isn't that insane pistachio girl doing something like that?
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they're not movies but the short films by the students at calarts are pretty neat

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This thread is meant for artists who might want to try to make anime works in-between their studies. It is strongly recommended that you use this thread in conjunction with learning the elements and fundamentals of art. You can also discuss the visual elements of various professional artists as well if you keep it relatively articulate and civil.

Submit your drawings, receive feedback or critique others! Share your knowledge and remember to thank those who've critiqued or red-lined your drawings. Most importantly, have fun!

Fresh off the Mayflower? Then do yourself a flavor and check out /ic/s complementary subordinate sticky here:
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj
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>Hitokaku Index
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
>0033
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317
>List of active livestreams

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>>2818923
>>2818938
its still MILES better than his first one trust me.
Keep it up, you improved already. Though you've still got a lot to learn
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>>2818842
Yeah, /ic/ is shit.
Lets stay
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>>2818923
The wrist part is too large
The face is kinda tiny
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>>2818947
>>2818926

>/ic/ has gotten to a point so shit where I can't legitimately tell if it's shitposting or sincere anymore
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>>2818938
Post work

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>Call myself an artist
>Friend ask me to draw on the spot
>Try doing it from imagination
>No references
>Loose spagetti
>Result looks like an amputee with parkinson
Remember to do from imagination from time to time guys.
Don't always rely on references you may not always have at hand
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>>2816361

completely false

most people who only draw from reference can only draw aesthetically unpleasant drawings from reference. you at the very least need to do life drawing to avoid that photo collage look

it depends on what you want to draw specifically. if you want to do a kind of comic art you need to draw like they do.
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>>2818427

>completely false
>you at the very least need to do life drawing to avoid that photo collage look
>implying what you learn from life drawings isn't a reference

Most good comic book artists use references. Not enough references equals same face and generic anatomy.
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>>2817152
What are the origins of this maymay? Did he try to draw something from imagination? Any links?
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>>2818818
Yes, he tried to on his stream, and he failed miserably. Sorry, I don't have pics.
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>>2818818
>he made the video private

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZsZzSryLB4

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>beginner posts
>Obvious first timer on trying to git gud
>explain and try to correct him
>"Thanks anon!"
>repeat for a few times
>Some time later
>Curious about how much he/she/it has progressed
>reverse search his pics from archives
>find his/her blog
>he stopped little after you made those critiques to him/her
>Likely she/he just lost interest
This fills me of despair
Please tell me this isn't common
And don't fucking dare even thinking of doing it, ever.
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>reverse search his pics from archives
>find his/her blog
youre fucking creepy to give enough shit to do that
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>>2818897
An art blog you fucking idiot.
What kind of pics do you think are being searched?, selfies?
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>>2818899
>sitting around reverse image searching ANONS work from 4CHAN
do i need to explain further
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>>2817433
Just less competition.
Don't worry about it.
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>>2817433
beginner here
I just stopped asking for critique
Most of it is the repetive shit you can say about any drawing without even looking at it and to anyone from the worst pleb to the highest masters
Just spending my days alone in my dark corner trying to get better until I wont get ripped apart
books tutorials and practice
also Thanks anon!

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What kind of art work would you catalogue this item?
I'd like yo find more like it

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Genuine question here: is copying master's drawings actually that good for learning?

I just don't see how it differs from drawing from like, since most times they're that good; what could they possibly teach you that you couldn't be taught some other (probably better) way? Say light, how is copying a master drawing going to teach you about how light works better than reading a book about light and doing a series of life studies and value exercises?

I just don't see it. Very curious about this since people make it out to be a big deal.
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>>2818960
>drawing from like
life.

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Is drawing from your shoulder a meme?
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enjoy your carpal tunnel fuckers
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I am physically so weak that I can't draw from my shoulder, what do I do?
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>>2818941
masturbate more, but put some back into it.
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>>2818941
When I started I could barely hold my arm up as well, but with time you get used to it and it gets really easy; it doesn't take that long, to be fair, I was already good after a month (I don't workout either.) Do drawabox exercises with your hand hovering over the paper, NEVER TOUCH IT, and you'll quickly get better at it.
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>>2815539
>>2815554


If you are pivoting on your elbow, you are drawing on your should.
Your elbow can only bend or extend and twist the forearm.
There might be some small extension in the elbow when drawing at times but I really, really doubt you are basing your whole method on drawing from the elbow.
When people say the elbow they really mean the shoulder, but it feels like it's the elbow because they pivot on it.

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What causes a once great artist to get lazy and the art they makes takes a hit? Do they stop practicing?

I'm only using this image as an example, as it's a perfect example of what I'm talking about.
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>>2818933
Forgot to mention; pic above is one of his slightly earlier comics, before this sagging-face-syndrome hit full force.
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>>2818933
Is that a female with a dick?
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>>2818919
Rough conceptart for the latest tombraider game was done in 4-8hours, finished illustrations done traditionally for Little Witch Academia were done in what I would estimate to be similar (the only example being a 9hour illustration done for the documentary). In some cases time was gained, in others not.

You talk about lacking nuance and I understand that you've made exaggerations to emphasis your point but like you say, there is more at play here.

Looking at the animator storyboards and seeing what they convey as a sketch I don't think that the time spent to find something to trace and then tracing would improve their workflow. If anything it would act as a hinderance to what they have in their mindseye UNLESS they start from the reference in a way that Asano Inio works.


I really don't know how to approach your thinking, all the more so if I make the assumption of equal skill between both artists because part of what makes a good artists image work will be how they view or stylise things, and if their fundamentals are at a high level then for pose/anatomy/composition what use is the photo to trace? I can understand having a template or reference if your work is more grounded I just see little value in tracing, if you're good you're also fast enough at sketching whereby its not useful - you can pull details from an environment like placement of key objects or set dressing but outside of that I don't see it being twice as fast for those that are skilled artist.
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>>2818933
Why do so many western comics look like a shitty rotoscope or a redraw over actors? It's uncanny as fuck and weirds me out. Maybe it's just me but I can't stand western stuff because of it.
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>>2818937
I'm pretty sure it's just a guy with tits.

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R8 my artwork please, I use mixed media which usually consists of
-watercolor
-ink
-pencil
-colored pencil

Also general r8 thread I guess.
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>>2818532
You can tell where the watercolors come from? Fucking quit being an artist right now, because you're never gonna make it. In the art scene, at least: go get a fucking degree in criminology or some shit, because the FBI needs your perceptiveness.

Get the fuck off of /ic/, nigga, you got a higher calling.
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>>2818103
Amazing!!! :D

I give it a -12/10

go to the beginner thread
start with learning 1,2, and 3 point perspective, download a pdf of scott robertsons book "how to draw" after going through "perspective made easy" (another pdf)

Once you've fully understood, and can draw 3D objects competently, download a pdf of another scott robertson book called "how to render" and follow the lessons till you understand them.

get "figure drawing for all its worth" by Andrew loomis and follow the lessons until you understand them.
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Where are all these individual rate threads coming from these last couple of days? It's like a reddit invasion going on here.
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>>2818103
>He wastes a canvas on that.
>Meanwhile I'm too much of a cheapskate to buy oils.

Fuck me, fuck OP, fuck everyone, really.
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>>2818103
>plays monster hunter

Never gonna make it.

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previous >>2764639

If you're gonna post animation that isn't yours give source or state that it isn't yours.

Keep shitposting to a minimum. Don't feed the trolls.

>2D Animation Tutorial Youtubers
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYOBCjdAoAjbKsk4NG7h_WJ9CX7F5zfUe
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqSn708K1qU-nZ74_fvdfRwjLwkBERvsn
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8-UylhAxkcdluQ75pvGkZYbqThFOA7hL
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnwHSDbcd45J_4lXT0GgPHbm4mlXEtAJX

>Stuff you may find useful, books basic program tutorials etc
https://mega.co.nz/#F!3p8CwQZD!DR2mC-kw0TyQQ8Uw3T6JYg
https://mega.co.nz/#!TdclgBqS!QWLS9f3ogerhJDfxCYPv_yFKRR11tP_IC0eaA4sEwug

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How do I make looping flashes that I see in /f/?
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>>2818232
Thanks a lot for the advice and taking the time to redline anon. It helps a lot to know which areas to focus on. I'll try to work on these on a regular basis and pay more attention to those necks and lines of action.
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running with a moving camera. super rough
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>>2818736
This is neat anon, might want to try add a few in-betweens or rough up the lines to convey more movement as the camera turns.
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https://u.nya.is/svidcb.webm

This ending sequence has some absolutely beautiful moments of sakuga.

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this is art true art https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfnhExoq1hQ
jk my face is art
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>>2818270
for how crappy the prequels were, I think tpm was the best of the three, and the cg holds up surprisingly well for how old it is. just goes to show how much passion and excitement was behind the design team and animators and artists at the time.

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Rolllercoaster
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roll
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>>2818760
Very creative and cute, though as a disembodied head for all practical purposes I suppose it's a little on the safe side. I like the concept and how the angular forms of her "tail" and hair tie together. Those subtle, simple gradations on her clothing are also fantastic.

For what it is it's more or less flawless. You could consider thickening the eyebrow seen on our left very slightly to make it more congruent with the one on the right-not necessarily because what you have is incorrect-but simply to make it appear less congested by its own outlines which are converging in on themselves. The angle of where the eyebrows terminate near the "keystone" appear to be a slight departure from one another. Also with her face turned slightly to the viewer's left I can't help but feel the little "cheek" suggestion at the edge of the mouth would look better on the opposite side to kind of give the impression of an overlapping form.

Well done!
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>>2817401
Having a break.

Is Alphonso Dunn a good source for learning how to work with pen and ink? I haven't been able to find any artist or book that goes into detail about the process.
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>>2813817
Also helped me improve. Negativity is everywhere. If your can't discern or decide things on your own, you deserve what you end up with. Be an individual.
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>>2812695
I can't speak to his book since I haven't read it but Rendering in Pen and Ink by Arthur Guptill's a good one.

His videos seem alright. He's not on the same tier with pen and ink as the other mentioned in the thread(Frazetta, Gibson) but as a starting point he's fine.
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>>2814912
/ic/ isnt a hugbox, but it is a bucket of crabs
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Photos of drawings with the pen or pencil laying on he paper make me cringe ...lets you know right off the bat the art is YouTuber time lapse tier
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>>2816542
As in? I've never had anyone actually try to stop me in doing something that wasn't already stupid.

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Share your DA, insta, Patreon, tumblr etc.
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i fucking suck
https://www.instagram.com/travisark/

prepare to be disappointment
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>>2818640
ty bruh
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>>2818652
Don't say you suck
Say you are working at getting better
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http://sonofthemasteroftheuniverse.tumblr.com/
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>>2818652

mr meeseeks is blue



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