If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comsketchdaily.netcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>PYW and give your feedbackWhat can be improved? are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them? maybe a redline or a technique, be specificTry to reply to someone as you post your own work.Previous thread: >>7144387
I won’t contribute to this thread, either, as I was told I am NGMI and so I no longer draw.
I did another study of this actress, the one on the right was from a few days ago, sleep's been poor and I feel that it's affecting my ability to draw properly. I just feel she looks so creepy in the middle. I tried to make her look less creepy but it's hard. I need more sleep.
WIP. It's been a long time since I've tried rendering anything and I'm mostly happy with what I have so far, but I'm sure fresher eyes can spot mistakes or something that looks off.>>7146918The reason the head in the middle looks creepy stems from two different things. One is that her head shape in your drawing is too rounded and feels more squished. Ideally the bottom part of the circle guideline should be right at the mouth, not below it (at least in a front facing view.)Likewise, while you might be going for a stylized look with her eyes, the big bug eyed look and her eyes being too close together are giving you that uncanny feeling you're recognizing. Ideally, the space between both eyes should be about the width of an eye. Also recognize that even in the reference with her eyes open, they're not THAT open. Think of the eyes as spheres and the eyelids the blankets resting atop of them.I actually think if you were to open up this file, re-size the eyes and space them out it would actually not look that strange.I think you could improve on trying to capture a more "closer to reality but not full on realism" look for your studies, at least for now so it can help you understand more about the shapes of the face and proportions.You're not 100% using symbol drawing, but it's sort of there, especially in the sketch in the bottom left corner.Trace over the reference photo with your Loomis head guidelines and compare that to how your sketches are structured.Last piece of advice or exercise I can recommend is iterative drawing. If you're like me and have more of an ADHD brain this might burn you out, but repeatedly drawing the same thing and slowly noticing and fixing mistakes with each sketch helps a huge amount. Try drawing the same sketch from the same reference but try to improve little by little with each sketch. I guarantee you your 4th or 5th sketch will be miles ahead of your first.
Does anyone have good painting tutorial recs? I'm trying to learn and I have no clue how to blend colors and stop everything from looking so blocky.
>>7146938Thanks for all that advice, really helpful and I'll see what I can do later, just doing something else drawing related at the moment and I don't really want to draw too much longer today, so I just wanna make sure I get this out of the way with before I see what happens if I tweak her face.
>>7146918Try tracing the reference image, just to see how far off you are in terms of proportion. Then, redraw it. It should be a lot better
new to this website so i have no idea on how it works but here you can have a semi-recent artwork of mine (i havent drawn for a while)
>>7146940Marco buuci in the end of the video explains his painting style I suggest watching ithttps://youtu.be/HCq2NUq8EXA?si=az9vn5nylTH3gLhC
>>7146906Lmao mecbeg. Nice OP.
>>7146956i want to have gay sex with this character.
>>7146964just watched it and found it pretty helpfulty! :3
>>7146956New people still come to 4chan?
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>>7146918You need more repetitions, keep it up, focus on accuracy and filling in shapes/values. Try to color in your piece and adjust as you go along, if something looks off overlay your reference and one you know what to move adjust. Focus on photo realism for just one illustration in might take a few hours or days but you'll learn.
Well I did what the great and powerful Pawell said to do and copied from KtD. And like I said last thread, it looks even worse. Seriously is there really no other book to learn from?
>>7146918What was your goal with this? if you're doing a study, you shouldn't really be going for anime eyes. Draw what you see not what you want to see.
>>7146985Here's the ref image, mock all you want, you always do.
>>7146985you're supposed to look at your own hand for this, did you not read the instructions?
>>7146984I'll have to do that eventually. Been having issues due to sleep issues but hopefully once I get that under control my improvement will gradually speed up.>>7146986A study with an anime style. I am clearly a tad too early for that though.
>>7146985That actually looks better
>>7146964quick study of my cat after i watched that video
Can I get a redline, I know the torso is too long
:/
doodles I did while being stresed out>>7146910based>>7146985>>7146987>heres the ref imageThat's not how it works>>7146964>>7147009Marco Gucci is king of youtube art videos. Also good cat draw.>>7146938based long advice giver
>>7147036Left leg wrong
Some doodles from today.
>>7147036heads a bit too small
>>7147037Sovl
>>7147036Neck doesn’t feel right, but being the autist i am the biggest issue i have is….
tried copying the guilty gear xrd style but now im bored and wanna study something else>>7146956welcome, i dont see many ranfren fans on here surprisingly>>7147009this is awesome. the face and strokes makes your kitty look so angry
>>7146956sexo
>>7147009sexo
Working on portraits, decided to have fun with it.
Does copying photos help you improve? Picrel my cat
>>7147177yesbeautiful creature
>>7147177Yes, all i did was copy for like the first 6 months of drawing
>>7147181>>7147177To elaborate, it helped me getting good at drawing what i saw, after i had some competency in that i started pounding out the classics like loomis, bridgeman, morpho, strangely an anatomy book i really like anatomy and drawing by victor perard.
>>7147129Idk i'm not an expert but i did study few days ago spine and like ribcage and what i learned that first 7 vertebra are like moving separately from spine and has 2 special vertebra axis and atlas i think that connect to the skull and help it move or sum Maybe i'm retarded, again i'm just a beg but feels like it's off to me as neck feels like a stick that just sits on top the head. Idk like i feel like this one would have more pinching and shit from pulling the head like that
Fixed it a bit, need critique
trying into oc
>>7146999Yes I know, but I was told to also copy the pictures in the book here. DESU though I don't know how that will improve anything though.>>7147003I still don't see it honestly
>>7147240Give it a few more copies and then do the exercise of drawing your own hand
Overconfident warrior gets hexed with a fertility venus transformation -ᆺ-
>>7147161Naturally you should try imitating the Strive art style now. Grind those anatomy and body proportions.
>>7147258cool
>>7147201I guess she's going through a trap door into an attic? Anyways, you seem to have issues with the legs, it looks ok other than that. Hope it helps.
>>7147220his arm holding the bat is a bit too short. His torso also might be a bit too small but that also just be a stylization thing, not necessarily a flaw
>>7147024
>>7147259i thought about copy strive but desu i feel like just copying the world ends with u again im fuckin whoring myself out on drawing different stlyes bruh
>>7147248SEXOOOOOOblog?
>>7137922Drawing Haruka from reference
Took me 12 hours, lmao, critic please
>>7147340arm is too long and folds are disgusting
>>7147445tone down the background, it competes with the armor and hairand his right arm could be foreshortened better, but well done overall it's interesting
>>7147447you draw it then, retard
>>7147447instead of being a butthurt cunt why don't you redline for the original anon since you know how to do it
>>7147445I like the dragon's head the most, the character's armor and head look wonkydetail is distributed kinda unevenly, weird focal points
>>7147261another disgusting outline that reeks of tumblr and too blocky for a human figure. go easy on the stabilizer there.
>>7147458tongue my anus
>the nodraw crab has arrivedoh great
>>7147340her left shoe is in bad perspective (the original was correct), the folds are ugly, the head is too small
>>7147445The arms are a bit wonky to me but i can’t put my finger on it.
>>7147440the mouth is too angledharuka hair highlights should cover the entire front hair, looks good, tiny arms.>>7147445gtfo that dragon is amazing you dumb furry, nice attempt at the metal
>>7147467bit small, angle problem perchance, might even be the completely flat sword looking at the viewer, who knows, not me i'm a crab
>>7147382idk where to make a blog.. twitter seems like a pain in the ass
>>7146906link the thread you fucking niggers
>>7147474Based
>>7147245That does seem like a good idea, my previous attempts were very poor so it would help to get an understanding on how others did it.
>>7147480As someone who had twitter and instagram (only twitter now), twitter feels like the less bothersome to deal with and browse of the two. Image posting is better and it doesn't compress your pics as much.There's no more to it if you don't want to: open site -> post your shit -> leave. Certainly more coomers would want to see your work.Nta.>>7147474It's that simple. Some anons are the personification of Howie.
Does anyone know where I can look at Mangas online? I wanna copy some stuff I like but I don't have enough money to buy the stuff i want. Thanks!
>>7147546That's illegal.Are you seriously trying to break the law? lmao...
>>7147546Mangafire, use an adblocker, otherwise pop-ups galore
>>7147521you literally cant even make an account for free anymore
Sup beg, i failed to draw yesterday and today i procrastinated. Its over>>7147480"managing" social slop takes 10 minutes. 2 minutes if you automate it. compare it to hours of bleeding on canvas>>7147445the color choices are raping my eyes. just BTFO the red and render insides of the cape so it isnt solid black and you have decent american style of comics>>7147440flat arms, flat collar bone, flat everything. needs MORE shades, everywhere>>7147248lmao>>7147220i like it>>7147177copying is essential: it trains observation and accuracy. ofc there are other fundies, but how could one learn anything more advanced when he cannot accurately draw what is in front of him?>>7147167furry>>7147009nice kot>>7146985it is better. you can actually see foreshortening of nails, overlapping of fingers and in general its better than all your previous attempts. more drawing, less crying>>7146977its okay, but i am not a fan of it>>7146956welcome to begint. it works like this: you post and farm (You)s. You look competent, but lazy>>7146938it feels like her left cheek is way more visible than right one. as if her skull isnt symmetrical. the ear is too close to eyes, neck too thin>>7147546e-hentai.org nyaa.si anime-sharing.com
How what direction should I go in to improve my art. Ignore color (and blatant fetish garbage and deleted text) I know it's shit, I want to make art that looks like lmsketch or 38, I stumbled into this style but I need help improving. What should I study to advance my progress, I always end up hating everything I make.
>>7147451Yeah, I should have just use reference. >>7147455Me too because i like drawing dragons lol>>7147467It is wonky because It is super flat, I am trying to fuse anime with frank frazetta.>>7147475I'm not a furry bruh, I just like drawing dragons. >>7147558I know right, I always use super imposing colors, because that is my personality LOL
>>7147261Are you that anon that went through Bridgman a while back?
>>7147558Technically i’m not the furry just an enabler, two of these were for friends. The bottom right is of course a self portrait
>>7147590yeah that's me. I usually lurk around just a bit. But I have a little time now to do a flash animation that I want to finish. And then get back to the boring real world. lol.
>>7147595What do you do in the real world just curious?
>>7147595It's cool seeing you here again - I remember when you linked that smut game a few months ago, that was similar to those old flash games from 2005.
>>7147597I do what everyone does, whatever bullshit allows me to get any money. Fixing and maintaining PCs and operative systems keeps you quite occupied in this fucked up economy. People pays for basic social app management. Or for even explaining wtf is crypto.I heard many anons here going crazy about "making it", "muh future", "being someone". I think that at some point an artist must come to terms with the fact that "the world" doesn't need you. The "art community" doesn't need you. YOU need YOU. Your art whatever it is, must fulfill YOU, and no one else. And then you will realize that you're free. You don't need to go to some "school", or to meet "some requirements at certain age", or to have "that" tablet.What I mean, is that there's no amount of money worthy of your artistic effort. Not because it is "valuable" per se, but IT IS a gigantic effort to you. It is hard, even if it is CRAP. Doing that crap requires a HUGE spiritual effort for you to produce. When you can mop a floor and have a laugh cleaning toilets for ten times the money, and ten times less effort. If someone "wants" your art, it must be costly to them, as costly is to you. Your time is invaluable. And your time to do art, is sacred. To achieve that, you must have covered your basic monetary needs. So you can say, "I don't need your money". I have what I need already. Why would I spent a whole month doing your stupid business anniversary funny card you need for a laugh at the office? When I could spent that month doing a thing for me instead that would cost me nothing and give me joy and happiness? It's quite tricky to find what makes you happy. Some people need to rise a family, even if it's hell, they are naturally geared to that. Well, therapeutic rant session off. Lmao xD>>7147602Thanks man. Yeah, I'm connected to that era, like some people are connected to the PC-98 era. I always wanted to make those games for fun, but it wasn't my time. Now that world is over.
hello to all gigabegs, this art teacher is doing a draw along series of Loomis - Fun With A Pencil, if you're struggling with stuff follow along with this playlist for a while and see if it clicks. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYcCSctp38kc8bJeWPs_xRqR1rpIujOE3
>>7147648good advicebtw I remember your bridgman drawings were really clean, do you think if I copied yours instead of the book it would be ok ? basically I'm asking if your observation ability while doing them was on par.also what exactly does doing them twice entail, copying once and then doing it from memory a few minutes later or copying the whole book and then the whole from memory again ? TIA
how do I make the skirt in this pose better?
>>7147665You could do that if it helps you to go forward. It will be easier, because sometimes I struggled to decipher the original drawings myself. So I guess I made them much clearer to understand, to me atleast. I should say that Bridgman style is not "anatomically correct" in "academy terms" lol. It's an artistic depiction. I just looks cool, wich is an important thing in art. Frazzetta used it to produce his style and changed everything. It's an "artistic exercise". It's a meme tool. "Do Bridgman twice", it's a meme to psych you up to do a tedious art exercise and finish it. You will learn shapes, for sure. There's no other way to learn, but to copy and reproduce, again and again... and again.You could do the same with any other thing, like I dunno, do "Naruto twice" and you will be a mangaka, lol. Of course it works, copy, copy, and copy, till you don't need to copy anymore. You will tweak shapes and styles to your own needs. But also, trying to "mimic an style" never works, it always ends up having your own signature. So you shouldn't worry about "getting infected by someone else's style". That never happens in a literal way.
>>7147676try to make the material easier to draw first, imagine something that doesn't really fold or clump up that much, just get the weight down then you can make the form more detailed to fit the material you wantAlso her feet are huge but its kinda hot, make her look at the came though
>>7147678The problem is that I haven't worked with folds that much yet and I can't find specific examples for this pose so it's a bit hard to imagine how it should look. Do you have any references or guides that can help with this pose?
>>7147684you got it right, the folds themselves are just bad, some of them at least, feel the form my nigga
>>7147687I will try
>>7147677thanks, ideally I want to ingrain everything in my library right at the start, but doing copies isn't doing that for me, do i need to do like 5 memory sketches for every copy Iol
>>7147676This anon >>7147678 is right, first try to simplify the object and design. Like the fabric itself it's made of paper or cardboard, you know?On the other hand, I approached the issue in an opposite manner lol. I added ruffles to the ends of the dress, to make it more interesting. Ruffles are tedious, and hard but it always make a simple design automatically better. I did it because I see you are quite good already, I think you can tackle that. The way you did the feet and the legs, perfect. Everything looks good. Clothing design is always on another level of difficulty. I think the key is to keep it simple, and to use straight lines, like thinking about ironed clothes, lol.
>>7147648I still have my Newgrounds account from 2008 (mother fucking elementary school) - and even now there are still comments from 2024 on that old classic “Glory hole hentai RPG” game (on Newgrounds) I guess that era is dead but there is one dude (goes by “Indivi”) on Patreon who has that cheesy middle-school-weaboo artstyle who’s doing quite well for himself. He makes these smut games in RPG Maker which have that same charm of those made by the 1-man-army-20-year-olds back then during the Armor games era, who would program the game, draw the art, do the UI, even compose the music by themselvesHell I even still listen to the Sinjid OST sometimes (the flash game with the ninja going into the portals)While the outside world continues obliviously, I sit right here in this cramped room - my prison cell really - day in and day out, toiling away at esoteric problems which scream at me constantly to solve them - struggles which few human beings will ever know. Every second feels like it could be done doing something easier, more productive, or even just more quickly gratifying (everybody else my age parties, for example).
>>7147701nta but im gonna jack off to this thanks
>>7147701Thank you! The ruffles are indeed more interesting to look at here.
Can I get some suggestions on how to make this kind of shading and gradients a little better? Im working with extremely limited tools here, only black and white and regular binary brush, but I feel my current method is lacking something, the way shadows are done looks strange and cant make the most of them, but I cant quite figure out what to do to improve it.Anyone can give me a hand?
>>7147709this type of shading is done with special tools/conversions, you're not supposed to do it manually, what style are you even replicating?
>>7147699>do i need to do like 5 memory sketches for every copyActually, I should say that you need to do 100 copies for every image.. LOL. But, you never do that literally, you do the same poses or the same shapes a thousand times by trying different things, characters, themes, projects, eventually you will do and know the shapes by natural instinct. You forced your brain to learn it. It's up to you how hard that could be. I'll be sincere, to me, doing hot girls and coom made that happen. Just like in that Robert Crumb meme. You need something like that to get you going through it all. A literal obsession. It's the truth. Or you can have a guy whipping your back forcing you to go through hundreds and thousands of paper sheets. But you need to do the grinding. Somehow. And you will learn it, one way or the other.>>7147703I see what you're saying man. I liked the art style in those games and the creativity, the variety of it all. It was all possible thanks to how easy was to do things on flash. Everyone could make it. I believe they nuked flash to stop that, to do a "reset". They sanitized the whole scene. The bastards. Won't ever let us have nice things that easy, aren't they.>>7147704cool, pic's mission accomplished lel
>>7147726they nuked flash because it was old technology and they didn't want to update it anymore. Since it doesn't get security updates it has to be disabled in modern browsersYour browser literally holds tokens to access every account that you use, it's unacceptable for a plugin to be outdated Flash in the later years was extremely slow and the technology was outdated
>>7147728Yes, I know, I read everything and anything about that whole Flash "happening". I still look for things about it. It just doesn't convince me, that a company with a whole market in the palm of its hand would let that just "go". NO ONE does that. Literally no one. It took Microsoft a fucking trial against the united states of america to give up its market position.The "technical" excuses are there of course, but not the logical business explanations. Whatever. Doing and finding content with that amount of diversity and creativity today is hard. Look at what happened with unity. They somehow managed to corner the whole indie market. Flash was unruly content making, it was like wild fire. Now you have to be an steam team player to have a place on the market.
>>7147737It didn't have the market in it's palm, html5 and unity were arleady up and coming. Content creators were more interested with YouTube and steam greenlight at that point.I remember thinking how weird it was to still play flash games during it's final years, btd5 and btdb were prob the last relevant flash creations
Is it over for me paint bros? Working on this without a sketch so nothing is really set in stone yet w the lighting and anatomy
>>7146906I tried something here. How did it turn out?
>>7147709Do you mean working with pixel "dithering"? Dithering brushes are available in any image editor nowadays. Depending on your own resourcefulness with those limited tools you can make the "dithering" as complex as you want.>>7147740Well, I guess they had the market on the palm of their hand, till they didn't have it anymore. They let that happen for sure.
>>7147742It looks like shit. Do it again, but mean it this time
>>7147741I am a very sucky painter, but the point I want to make is that drawing is the main thing to work on here. Try getting comic books and just making studies from them, figuring out how they separate light and shadow, and how they stylize the features. I recommend the capeshit ones because they have heavy light and shadow, and those shadow shapes can be aped for painting. Mignola is a good choice for shadow shapes and simplified painting.
>>7146938Her face looks quite lively and three-dimensional, but there are a few issues with her mouth, one glaring, and two subtle.First, the Glogau-Klein points of the upper lip are not in alignment with the philtral columns:https://static.wixstatic.com/media/a27d24_206bf7095692406c8f96d832ed484944~mv2.jpgSecond, the lower lip is just a bit thicker on the left side than on the right one.And, lastly, the placement of the furthermost commissure appears to be slightly lower than that of the foreground one.
>>7146906can someone advise me on how to shade better? (example work attached) I usually shade by using a clip mask of some <100% opacity of blackish colors, and then do some highlights with some <100% opacity in whitish colors.it doesnt make it look good enough though and i'm honestly not sure what i should do to improve shading pls help
>>7147758Thanks for the tips! I usually sketch a peice out before doing any painting so tried to just get into blocking out. But will definitely look into those rescources! Made some improvements but still got some work to it.
>>7147748They didn't "let it happen", unity and html5 are simply superior, flash was getting beaten by them as soon as they came out. Flash was still alive when those two came out and it immediately fell out of favor. There is no universe where flash can compete with the 3d of unity and the multiplayer capabilities of html5 just because it's slightly easier to develop
>>7147776 How you do it is irrelevant.>what i should do to improve shadinghow what you want to achieve looks like?
>>7147797what does grey sleeve outline look like instead of white. looks really nice btw
I'm the artist who posted the Yor WIP earlier. I'm trying to break out of my comfort zone and do more full body sketches.Definitely mistakes abound in here, but I had so much fun sketching this out after grinding a bunch of gesture studies.Hit me with the most obvious stuff.
>>7147777Focusing on little forms too much, focus on the main forms moreBlur your eyes, so you see a form or a flat shape?
>>7147825yeah I get what you mean, there aren't many forms currently in the eyes. Tried blurring my eyes and the whole eye melts together so I gotta study some more.
>>7138020I've drawn this in under a minute during a boring computer science lesson Also here's my silent one-shot comic >>7101058
>>7147829The eye is tiny, stop focusing on the damn eye, you're drawing a HEAD not an eye, if you want to draw eyes then draw an eye not a portrait
making soijaks is hard
>>7147261Is this fixed?
>>7147833EYE gotta get a better EYE for these kind of things. Chill out man you didn't pay for it lol, gonna get to it.
>>7147820proportions are the most obvious stuff here (ignoring her giant forearm and messed up upper arm and hands but it's a sketch so whatever)legs seem short which is kinda funny considering she's wearing those giant heels which are supposed to make your legs look longerit kinda looks like you've foreshortened the entire drawing in a weird way
>>7147853cringe
How do I break away from my "style"? I feel myself stagnating but it's so addicting even though it looks like shit.
>>7147843hahahahahahaHAHHAHAHA
tried to draw a dress from reference, how does it look so far? its not finished and drapery is fucking with my brain (i didnt read any books on it yet), tried to make sense of it as good as i could.
>>7147748I knew it, georgie boy was a fucking femnist söyboy
>>7147853cringe x2
>>7147843kek
>>7147701It's so underrated how skilled you are with just a basic lineart brush
>>7147875Do master studies
All i could manage while being sick, it's ogre.
>>7147929Any recommended ones? (preferably still alive, has video processes and isn't Loomis)
Do any of you have any recommendations for a desk easel for screenless tablets? Specifically a 10 x 6?
feels like the lower legs are too thin, what do you think?
>>7147710>what style are you even replicating?That, anon, is a really good question lmfao.Seriously, though, Im trying to replicate Miiverse's art format, though as for the shading techniques and little artistic details, those are things Im figuring out on my own, hence the lack of direction.>>7147748Damn, this looks really cool! Great work cleaning the shading and using the dithering, and the little highlights are sweet too. Also, feels nice your shading placement coinceeds for the most part with mine, that says a lot about me finally getting the hang of it. Also the fact you got her colors right on your own kind of flatters me lmao.So that's the name I was looking for, "Dithering". I do have those brushes available in SAI, though I tried them for the Rosalina draw and they were missing this messy/textured effect to it, yours does too, which is not a bad thing per se, I just want something messier, or noisier. That's the main thing Im struggling with right now, how to make that dithering more interesting and deeper.Knowing what I have to study does help a lot, though, I can look for dithering techniques and see what works for me. So thanks for letting me know!
>>7146977
>>7147445look for references of comic artists and how they ink, you are using strong blacks there but you dont use that in all the image, and that could improve a lot the consistency of the image. Good shit by the way.
>>7147701oh my god, just get off the stabilizer. it's unseemly. learn to fucking draw first before doing a redline.
>>7147933>drawing while sickFar from ogre anon. Well done.Hope picrel helps for future studies. For quick sketches/studies I'd say you need only 2 layers of hatching for clarity.
>>7147795cool
>>7147560More red dots, bigger size difference, less looking down povs (you dont look down at things bigger than you)
>>7147741no critique, just attempted the same studyvery hard to grasp the expression of pain
I will begin drawing in 30 mins despite notnreally wanting to do so.Is thsre any sense or merit in copying brigman as a complete beg? If not, what do i copy?
Do any of you guys have any tips on how to do Vilppu's gesture thing? I understand that the lines you do don't need to be the contours of the subject you're drawing, but I find it keep things in proportion and do the wrapping lines to indicate form.
>>7148056draw something coollike rocks
>>7147955thank you for this
>>7148061That'd be so ducking hard to observe and draw though, anon
>>7148059chapter 9 of his drawing manual talks about how to combine observational (2d) techniques with his constructive approach
>>7148061that rock looks like a hand
>>7148056https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayQsCau0hj8
>>7148061non-functional design. drawing rocks is like masturbation
>>7148072it'd be good because it's weird/foreignyou can't rely on knowledge and you'd need to observe more
my drawing from few days agohttps://files.catbox.moe/rqfeed.pngI traced it to digital and asked my friend for some help he showed me how to draw better hair and ears (he was tweaking the whole time when he saw it)I'm really happy how it turned out
>>7148116Word of advice don't trace whilst doing lineart pretend as if you're doing a new drawing and what would stick out using line weight etc Overall looks good
>>7146906I like coming here watching you idiots struggle to grasp the simplest of concepts. I like knowing that I know more than you will ever be curious about. I have answers to questions you will never think of asking. Because you're stupid and less than me. And I am better than you. Everyday the gap between us widens just a bit more. You will never be as good as me
>>7148117thanks, I see other artist tracing their paper sketches to digital all the time, is that a bad habit?
I got a little series goin.
I call it 'six men in search of a loan'.
>>7148130I dig it anon
>>7148122Depends if you're mindlessly tracing than yeah but if it's with lineweight ur good
>>7148134Thanks mann
>>7148130love it
Is this ok? I didnt' trace,
Finding refs at this angle is hard, I always have trouble with the shoulders from above>>7148147place the original image on the canvas, lower transparency and put your drawing on top of it, don't fret too much if its not perfect, just try to get sizes more or less right. it looks fine, keep doing studies
Really struggling with the backgrounds :/ any tips and criticism appreciated
>>7148154I feel no sense of danger. Putting in shadows and appropriate lighting matching the mood could go a long way
>>7148147your torso doesn't seem long enough compared to the reference
>>7148147Try to focus on the shapes made in the negative space in reference to the rest of the body (like those small triangles made by the leg and arm)
I have task paralysis I can't decide what/who do study can someone be my teacher pls?
>>7148170Sometimes when i don’t know what to draw i go to one of the 400 draw threads across the boards and draw the first request that catches my eye
>>7148056>complete beg As one beg to another - watch David Finch's two latest videos. Tl;dw: get How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way, find chapters about gesture and figure drawing, copy these figures since they've been simplified and broken down, so they're much easier to understand than Bridgman. Get comfortable with them and then move to Complete Drawing From Life. I've been doing them for the last week and I've already noticed some progress.
>>7148164thats a pretty good tip, thanks.
So I'm a huge retard. I've been drawing for 2 and a half months straight and I found out my drawing process everyday is at least 20 minutes and here I was thinking I drew for 1 hour I figured this out because I felt like I've been drawing like shit recently so I timed myself, it takes me 20 minute s to finish a drawing and I thought It was genuinely 1 hourAny advice? Do i need to thug that shit out and draw 10 minutes plus everyday?
>>7148170HOT
>>714820320 minutes is barely enough to warm upjust draw as long as you can while retaining focus
>>7148208Wallahi I'm fucked i completed one drawing and I just feel like I got out of a 9 to 5 what the fuck I might need to hit the gym more often and cardio as well
>>7146956hi fren welcome
Is this AI art guys? I saw this on a /pol/ thread and wanted to see more of whoever drew it but couldn't find any source
>>7148226forgot picture
I know tjis is a super basic questionBut what brush is dowman sayman using?I know it looks like your basic g-pen or tuning pen, but my doesn't look like this, maybe it's a sensitivity issue? I'm using a small screenless tablet so it's hard for me to make super clean leans, but even when I do I doesn't look exactly like this
>>7148227>>7148226never mind found it on r34 and it's AI generated...holy fuck it's so over
how the fuck has AI become so good I'm gonna kms
>>7148231What's over? And what does an obvious AI pic with no appeal got to do with anything being over?
>>7148231>>7148227>>7148226you're fucking retarded
>>7148231Rendering is not everything anon. You need to feed hot ideas and cool poses into the AI to make something good. The machine doesn't work by itself. If you can draw the pose and the idea the AI will make it shine. Otherwise it won't do shit.
>>7148237it learns exponentially, it was rigged from the start
they even blacked her with AI it's SO over
I think we've got a new schizo. Maybe this one will be funny. Doubt it though
>>7146956welcome, thanks for sharing your art anon.
>>7148245THIS NIGGER HAS OVER 300 PATREONS FOR AI ART
>>7148250just do the same bro, easy money
>>7148247Looks like he's just going to post terrible AI coom so funny is off the table
>>7148254If you think this is terrible you need to get your eyes checked, learning to draw for coom is dead.
>>7148227>>7148231>>7148237>>7148245>>7148250>>7148258could you please stop?
>>7148259He's not going to. Hide and/or ignore.
>>7148259just report and move on
remember that blacked posters are usually asian men with tiny cocks
>>7148133sex with giant kiwis while they lay an egg on your dick squeezing it out while you fuck it and then it breaks and you have liquid egg on your dick as lube
this week's color studies
>>7148023Good attempt! I tend to focus on the details too much when painting.k2k
>AI retards start posting>thread turns to complete dogshitShift+left click to hide threads
some figure drawing followed by drawing the same thing from memory, as an anon recommended. I like the results
>>7148300>painting>no paint used
>>7148338>human>no brain used
>>7148258‘Learning how to draw for coom’ Starting to understand why half this site is still beg
>>7148349>half
>>7148345Reality is not whatever you wish it to be. You can attempt to garble the definition of words in an attempt to bend the truth to your will, but it is only a lame trick.
>>7148224Fuck off.
Bros... I really felt like I was a permanent but I just redid a painting I did a month ago... Igmi bros... I AM NOT A BRAIN DAMAGED PERMABEG
>>7148375beautiful use of paint. masterful brush strokes.
>>7148375You made it bro, you got your ticket out of this hell-hole. Good luck out there fren...
>>7148152Use a mannequin?
>>7148399>an actual mannequin model and not some generic ass anime girlbased. it's the small things
>>7148375nice
>>7148375You def have a much better understanding of facial planes, now apply those same principles to the hair by breaking it down into more simple forms
>>7148409whats based about that
>>7148413the >not some generic ass anime girl part.thought it was clear
>>7148375which is the new one?
>>7148415Do you just dislike anime?
>>7148413They have literally zero anatomy. Like, zero. Plus from my experience, most anime models crease and distort at the joints. Basically useless. If you are incapable of stylizing a mannequin and need an anime girl 3d model to do the work for you put the pencil down and rethink your priorities.
>>7148065>>7147797When I see both of these in their preview form they look great! But when I expand the images I find the brushwork really distracting and unpleasant. Round brush with opacity sensitivity is great and all, but it may be time you experiment with different brushes.
>>7148423Reading comprehension was in grades 1-3 if I remember correctly.
>>7148440can't you just answer without being a massive cunt? you sound like a loser with no friends, nobody could be friends with a fag like you
>>7148442>’pancakes are pretty good’>”woah man…you fucking hate waffles huh” you ever say some shit about waffles again I’m really gonna lose it
Sup beg, today i wasnt really productive.>>7148375perfect example of bad value range (right) vs okay one>>7148292i like the most the disco elisium portrait>>7148203drawing is kinda like going to gym: at first you cannot put in more than couple of reps and over time your endurance increases. just keep pushing yourself>>7148170just pick any art book>>7148133soul as usual>>7148116the tongue kinda merges into lower jaw and the lower jaw is missing the bottom>>7148059nicolaides natural way to draw book said: you cannot learn gesture by reading, talking or watching it, only by doing it. good luck anon>>7148053i like it>>7147946proportions look correct. people can have very thin legs (anorexia) or very thick ones (squatters), you are well within normal range>>7147943one of the advantages of screenless tablets is that you dont have to look at them: you can just rest them flat on table or in your lap and keep spine safe since you are looking naturally forward. easels are mainly for tradchads and screen tablets since the drawer has to bend his neck otherwise to look down>>7147934master study = picking ANY finished artwork you like and analyzing / copying it with 1:1 accuracy. it doesnt have to be loomis or other art titans, just anything you like but currently cannot do>>7147884it is alright, but you better draw a figure wearing it for free figure gains>>7147776try to use 50% values as a good start>>7147742eyes a little misaligned and nose would look better without the top line>>7147709looks great to me>>7147560shading. very coomable and somehow even cute
>>7148450i genuinely feel sorry for you, though if you're still a teenager there's still hope
>>7148453We got the anime crusader over here LMAO
>>7148468uncircumcised peens are so ugly my god
>>7148154Second page sketches as well. Unsure if the panels/pacing are right
>>7148474It's way more sensitive and beautiful looking. Also I pulled it down for that photo. Looks better in my opinion since I only know uncut dicks. Cut dicks are disgusting they have a really pink color where they got cut and it looks unnatural. But since most Americans are kike slaves that got circumcises, I feel sorry for you.
>>7148483>sensitive and beautiful looking How are you going to save the white race by being gay?
How do you guys "study"?. It's been like a year since Ive last drawn and now I want to get serious with actually achieving the level of proficiency I can be happy with myself, but there's too much to learn, im going back to the basics and actually doing the whole "Dynamic Sketching with Peter Han" thing, then I will continue on with the sticky, but meanwhile I also downloaded several leg images and references because I suck at legs/feet, did a self portrait which sucked and then continued with my current drawing(pic related), but I have no knowdlege of color theory whatsoever so I was wondering if I should just make a mess of my current drawing and "finish" it to practice, or wait until im done with tutorials of fundamentals on coloring. Do you guys just stick to one subject and grind it until you are happy with that or study and dip your toes on subjects you are still not studying?
>>7148208>>7148451YOU WILL MOG EVERY ARTIST BY DRAWING MORE THAN THEMYOU WILL KILL TWITTER ARTISTS BY DRAWING MORE THAN THEMYOU WILL DRAW 4 HOURS A DAYYOU WILL DO IT
>>7147742How do you go from Asian to Anya Taylor-joy?
>>7148489I'm not gay :(
>>7148474women and jews literally do not understand how penises work. It’s a shame they choose to mutilate baby boys.
how do I draw dolphin pussies and doplhins getting fucked in water?
>>7148490just do lots of figure drawing
>>7148517Not a shame, but a crime.
>>7148521Will that help with coloring/shading/lineart/inking?
I'm trying to improve my lineartdoes this look better than >>7146382?it's a pain in the ass
>>7148292I really like these. Nice job anon!
>>7148335It's memory, then observation, then memory. Logic behind that approach is in picrel.Also see >>7147981
>>7148535lineart's good, her face is iffy, but not the linearts fault
>>7148451Pawell, do Tenten book next it's much more comprehensive than Xiao Wei Chun
>>7148572thanks, yeah maybe the eyes are weird
>>7148578not the eyes nigga, the chin
>>7148530yes, if you get into figure painting
Does anyone know of ways to immediately arrive at a collaborative space to create and draw in?Int who’s spent years on fundamentals of anatomy construction perspective etc, and I’ve been motivated from the very start by the possibility of being able to collaborate with other people and share a working place. Actually, the idea of it appeals so much to me that it feels torturous to let days pass without arriving in this space.my ultimate interest is in animation, largely for this purpose, but that’s a discipline that seems to require years of self-study to get anyone collaborative with. I’ve also been practicing graphic design due to the collaborative design studio environment, but am not sure if it makes sense to spend a lot of time on that if my end goal is animation.
>>7148580oh ok I think I see it now lol
>>7148583git gud, learn Japanese, then become a Japanese animator in Tokyo
>>7148535Struggling with this ear/hair situation
>>7148595Oh yea I didn't notice it, I'm an idiotthanks!
>>7148594I’m JLPT N1 and interned at an anime studio in Japan, but my experience of the environment was pretty much just warm greetings followed by silently working all day and being occasionally told what to do differently before everyone was enthusiastically thanked and let go for the night, before repeating the next day. The work was all just being told to do things that looked like other anime with references provided, and no knowledge of how one’s work was going to fit in to the project. At least that studio felt extremely isolating
im not sure i like this sketch, kinda unfocused, needs more focus on the ass, and her size
>>7148535I hate to quote that one anon, but this is such a meaningless pose. It's not even meaningless, it's straight up unreal. Incovenient. What is she doing?Here's some notes so my crabbing is somewhat compensated. Do mind that I don't know shit about anatomy and just go for appeal when I draw bodies.
>>7148601It’s super easy to go blind to your mistakes esp when working on a piece for awhile, so don’t go too hard on yourself. Once I posted someone on here with a fucked up cranium and I didn’t notice until someone else pointed it out lol
>>7148490>draw a man>call it ishmael
Thought it would be badass to draw a woman holding her spilled guts as she gets picked at by ravens. I am really out of my depth with this and scared to continue for fear of it turning out stupid like everything else in my life. Advice for getting over this anxiety?
>>7146906Shape and form practice on toned paper…any critique/tips for next time?
>>7148628If you make her super hot then a funny thing will happen, any horrors will be justified in favor of sexual "enticement". Some will like it, others will express disgust, but they will save the image anyways to enjoy it alone with guilt and fear. Isn't that weird and cool? It's worth a try.
>>7148628>Advice for getting over this anxiety?Is that ink, bro?You need to refine your sketch enough so you know exactly what you're going to do when you start the inking stage. The one you have there looks like a first rough sketch, or "brain puke", as Yuko Shimizu calls them (pic related has some examples of the first sketches of one of her illustrations).Another important thing: you don't need ink to make finished pieces. Quite obvious, but I say this because I've been using a lot of graphite lately and it's relieving to know I can erase as much as I want to correct mistakes, specially with the absolute godsend that kneaded erasers are.
fuck, i've been looking into upper body anatomy for a few weeks and i produce this shit
>>7148634I thought of giving her perfect tits and having a withered dead baby sucking on one of them, maybe I’ll give it the ole college try!
Not super happy with her legs, but I think they're anatomically correct. Any crit?
>>7148633gg bro keep at it, some of the cylinders are fucked
>>7148663Fuckkk I was afraid that some of the cylinders were off. Been working on them and I really underestimated drawing one is. Which ones stick out the most?
>>7148633Meaningless exercise
How’s this coming along? It ain’t finished yet, but my brain is giving me the doomer feels of just giving up on it. Keep in mind, a lot of aspects about this was a request from a friend and I’m just interpreting it, like the weird skin painted face over the marble.I also suck at hands and feet, plan on doing them last.
>>7148677Why would you give up when you are so close. Most amateur mistakes can be correct through observation, or so the YouTube man said.
>>7148676Not meaningless at all, you should try it.
>>7148682The problem is I know it looks wrong but can't identify the problem to fix. I know I still need to do a proper pass of the shadows and lighting, to get the marble looking right. I also need to fix her eye's, hands and feet. Even with knowing that, it still looks wrong and bad and my brain is back-flipping into "just start again, but this time BETTER". But I know that yeah its close to being done, I should just push through. I think I did ok with the pose and overall design, although making the joints look 'robotic' has been challenging as too much detail on those sections would over do those area's, less is more sometimes.
nsfw all saints street fanart https://files.catbox.moe/1aakru.jpg
>>7148693rushed my hatching and it turned out garbage, im sticking to just the brush next time.
>>7147036Damnit, you can do better thatn this 10zzz10!!You da GOAT!!! OUR CHAMPION! OUR MESSIAHHHH!
>>7148677why she T-posing ? :/
>>7148702From what I see, my problem was mainly shading / lighting?You did a good job there, thank you.The tee pose was part of the request. She has two pets, one will be on each side and they are large. She’s also walking towards the foreground, so it’s not like a 3d model tee pose.Any tips for me?
>>7148707> my problem was mainly shading / lightingNo. It was just what I was doing wasn't trying to change the girl. I can't tell you how the girl should look.
>>7147981I'll keep this in mind, ty.
>>7148619thanks a lot! you're right about how meaningless that pose is, to be honest, that was just a quick sketch to try a new brush and see if I could improve my lineart, I do appreciate your comment and your pic because I made a lot of basic mistakes lol
TONIGHTS SHITTY DOODLE.AS YOU CAN SEE I CANT DRAW FOR SHIT AND THE """""""""""""TRENCHCOAT"""""""""""""""" looks painted on.
>>7148721>>7148535No, it's perfect anon. She just needs a little correction.....
>>7148603Why not put painting, stairs and a tv to help decorate the scene and lead the eye?
>>7148745Cant believe how much it adds.
>>7148745>decorate the scene and lead the eye?I don't get it, how does it lead the eye?
>>7148749its not rocket science
>>7148740you bastard... [spoiler]hot[/spoiler]
>>7148721I like this girl, I'll steal her :)
>>7148667most if them, search YouTube for rotating cylinders and eclipses in perspective
Any tips for drawing assess? Despite loving all types of assess I realized that I can only draw flat ones, so I'm trying to remedy that, attempted a short stack and a tall bomb shell, I wanna try other ones too maybe some more masculine typesI think I'm finally learning the meaning of the word proportions, it's the sizes in PROPORTION to other sizes, you can't make the ass big without making other parts of the body smaller, genius/blog>>7148693you don't need to be censoring that, it's just a huge dick, this is a red board>>7148658I think the biggest issue is that they're off-model
>>7148292fucking sick, GMI
i still can't draw faces without my stupid aids, excuse me while i go cry myself to sleep.
>>7148775Can't tell if boi or grilgive em a funni expression or something
>>7148583Bump
I was practicing 1 point perspective.I need to learn to make cleaner lines.Critique?Sometin seems off but hwuat i can not tell
More gesture drawing studies with Guilty Gear characters.
>>7148474It's so funny how kikes pushed genital mutilation on an entire continent and people will go as far as to defend it.
>>7148795hard to crit something that looks 10% finished
How do you into textures? Is there a decent book on this?
>>7148118>Doesn't post the work
>>7148819Peter Han's Dynamic sketching and Alphonso dunn's pen and ink have some pages about it. Ideal for you, since you're using hatching instead of tone.>>7148754>its not rocket scienceTrue. It's bullshit. It looks better, I give you that.>>7148773Get some thick ass references and apply cognitive drawing >>7148555>>7148775Aight>>7148864>gives an actual villain a (you)>>7148693>>7148697study how Sean Chen and similar artists use hatching to transition from pure black to pure white. Also >>7147981
>>7148642Compare the proportions. Look how in the original, legs take up like 50% of his height. Your own attempt shoulf start with some markings that more or less guide you with the right proportions. I had your same problem. As the drawing went on, I started drawing things smaller and smaller and the end result would be an abomination. Start from the bigger shapes, make sure to keep their proportions more or less similar to the reference pic, and start drawing the details inside
>>7148919>>7148919>>7148919>>7148919
>Change settings to my stylus, literally just make it so that when I press the button the pen changes to eraser, nothing more.>Stylus starts lagging everytime I start to draw something and the loading circle appears hundreds of times now, if I press on the bar to move the position of the page, there's no movement untilI stop pressing down the stylus.What the fuck, I wanted to fix a minor nitpick and ended up giving myself several annoying problems.
Running/lunging poses are the bane of me, and im not finding any proper reference to use.
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