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This board is for the discussion of classic, or "retro" games. Retro gaming means consoles, computer games, arcade games (including pinball) and any other forms of video games on platforms launched in 1999 and earlier. With the release of the 8th generation of consoles, the Sega Dreamcast will now be considered "retro", though the remainder of the sixth generation (Xbox, PS2, GameCube) will not.

Helpful links:
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Emulation General Wiki

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So I'm going to my first major flea market tomorrow. And I've made a shopping list of things I'd like. I was wondering if you guys could help me with what a "normal" or price you'd pay for these items and not eBay prices which you'd see from resellers.

NES
PSX
Dreamcast
NES games
PSX games
SNES games

Thanks in advance and all advice is welcome.
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>>2514508
Because eBay is a fucked up market where the sellers can manipulate prices.
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>>2514508
Seriously. A friend of mine went to a small shop somewhere in New York and bragged about getting an NES. She payed $100 for the system, cables, 2 controllers, Mario/Duck Hunt, and a Zapper. I couldn't believe it.
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>>2514516
But how did it get that high? It's common as fuck, old and dated I wouldn't pay more than $25 for one.
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>>2514535
>I wouldn't pay more than $25 for one.
but a lot of other people would
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Also, consoles with moving parts can be a red flag and risk.

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Let's try to get some discussion going! Favourite game? First encounter with the Dreamcast? Any particular release you're looking for? If you're looking for something that's not on the spreadsheet please let everyone know! There might be a good release for it.

Best Shenmue release is the NoBS-DC one. Don't get fooled by pastebins.

I think the last thread got deleted because the first one was still around, so keep that in mind for next time!
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Bumping with a picture of my launch japanese dreamcast running Jojo's Bizarre Adventure for Matching Service. 17 years and running smoothly.
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I want to burn some new games. What do you guys recommend? I like arcade games and fighters. Is outtrigger any good?
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>>2514479
Set that TV to 4:3. This is just too painful to see.
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>>2514479
I gotta get me one of those saturn to dc controller adapters to play this and other games properly.
>>2514487
Outtrigger is a great shooter, it really has that nice AM2 touch to it, and it's pretty playable with the right setting on the controller. Really fun with friends too.

Other than that I recommend Zombie Revenge if you're into beat 'em ups and Heavy Metal if you like closed arena combats (That game is really addicting on 1v1)
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>>2514505
I preffer using 16:9 aspect ratio. I find it strange to play with black borders

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Why did Final Fantasy VII have such a blatantly awful translation? I had never seen a AAA blockbuster title with such a piss-poor attempt at localization before.
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>>2514241
Not him, but I want to know if anyone's done the PS1 retrans yet? It's basically the mod, but a different person did the hacking so I'm wondering if it's the same shit but different platform.
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>>2513032
Maybe Wikipedia?

I really don't know. I remember hearing that he worked all the way back to FFIV but wasn't very involved.
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>>2514268
Not /vr/ but frankly Gears, having come out in 2006, looks infinitely better than the majority of 360 games that came out 2012+. They started trying too hard to squeeze graphics out of that system that it just fucked everything up.
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>>2514335

I forgot that /vr/ hate anime for some reason.
I don't like persona either, but i also try to discuss an argument with politeness and decency, you know, like a decent adult.
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>>2514241
From what I understand it used to be a legit retranslation, but lately it's been infested by George Lucas Syndrome and no one will stop modding the mod. It has all this shit thrown in with it too, though apparently that new character thing everyone was on about was thrown out a long time ago?

>read up on the project to see if it's worth using
>tfw I found out that I follow the original translation writer's Pokemon Gold hack and is a pretty okay fellow
>but the guy who actually does the heavy lifting for the mod is the idiot that visited /vr/

Since retrobright A. Doesn't last and B. Weakens the plastic how can you truly defeat yellowing? Repainting?
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>>2512164
This shit. Or anything similar. It's cheaper than retrobrite, easier than making retrobrite, and it works much better than retrobrite. You can get a few different brands on Amazon.
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>>2514302

You'd best make sure you know what's in any of these before trying them. Some contain solvents that while not especially damaging to human hair, will completely ruin plastic.
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I suggest a combo of ammonia cleaner mixed with bleach, but you might need several tries to make a mix that isn't too strong.

Obviously do not do this.
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>>2514182
Best advice in thread.
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Has anyone else tried using Magic Eraser to whiten their consoles? I used Magic Eraser on a Dreamcast I purchased on ebay.

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ITT: Early 3D games with clever aesthetic design choices given their hardware limitations

...Because I was just playing Mega Man Legends and was really impressed by how expressive it is.
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>>2512464
That's a Saturn game? It looks better than a lot of PS2 games!
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>>2508990
I always thought Goemon looked like "baby's first attempt at programming a 3D game". Well I guess a lot of N64 games did, especially since the PS1 wasn't even true 3D.
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>>2514503
>true 3D
shut up, really. So tired of this nonsense
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>>2509156
I-I honestly prefer the way native res looks.
You're correct, though, I would never force my personal tastes upon someone else.
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>>2514523
Well the PS1's GPU can't even accept three Cartesian coordinates as its parameters, only two. It is for all intents and purposes, a 2D chip.

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Show me the worst you've got.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS7HYsOEccw

I guess you could argue that it's a pretty impressive port given the hardware (maybe, I know fuck all about the ZX Spectrum), but the fact is that it's a shitty version of the game.
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>>2511082
What kills me with this port is that the soundfont they used for the Megaman X games would have fit better for the instrumentation than what was used.
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>>2511106
>Wow, this actually has some pretty awesome music for a ZX game. I wonder who did this.

MATT

FUCKING

FURNISS.

I wonder if he ever broke that hacker fucker's legs.
And that was a promise.
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The developers later came out and said they had absolutely no clue how to program on the N64.

>levels missing a lot of 3D meshes, like the gex statues in the overworld
>lower resolution overall
>textures lower resolution
>most lighting effects missing
>lower draw distance
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Now for this one the developers literally did it for a quick buck.

>some areas run at about 5FPS, absolutely no hyperbole
>grainy and pixelated as absolute fuck
>textures dithered to the max
>PS1's usual texture warping seems particularly bad here
>most special effects like lighting totally missing
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>>2514529
>no support from nintendo
>poor documentation
>tight 6mo deadline
>low budget
>small team
gee i wonder why it turned out to be a bad port.
>>2514542
Same here. This was a sad port.

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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>2502213
(We mainly talk Doom, but Unreal/Duke/Quake/Marathon/whatever are also welcome! Let's post like gentlemen)

===WEBSITE/COMMUNITY===

http://doomwiki.org/
The OFFICIAL Doom Wiki, actively maintained and supported by the Doom community. Want to learn more about Doom? Check this site first!

FAQ/Pastebin, updated semi-frequently
http://pastebin.com/vPbiw4NR

IRC (Password is in the FAQ.)
irc.zandronum.com
Channel: #vr


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>>2514375
Think I accidentally deleted my post. Sorry about that.
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>>2514320
Just a heads up, putting gameplay mods into your skins folder will make all servers reject you because of file authentication. It will also break almost any other mod you try to play. This is why people tell you not to do this. If you plan on never playing anything but brutal offline, then go for it.

You'd best either drag-and-drop brutal onto gzdoom.exe when you want to play it. Faster ways are making a shortcut with -file filename.wad, or get a Doom launcher. Doom Explorer's singleplayer tab works great for me. It can even make desktop shortcuts.
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>>2513037
I never liked the idea of him being off the hook crazy. Maybe a little bit disturbed, he's seen and done things that most others have not, but he'd still be coherent and stable.

As flawed as the old novels were, I kinda liked his personality there.
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>>2512779

a god amongst men
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>>2510767

The /newstuff Chronicles #477

http://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4455

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I bought a Atari 2600 off a dude on Craigslist. It had been sitting in his grandmothers basement for 20 years. He sold it for very cheap with E.T because he didn't know if it worked.

>Took it home
>Slapped E.T in
>Started right up

Holy shit. They sure don't make game consoles like they used too. I was expecting a little fight out of it, but it started up like it was brand new. Why don't they make consoles like that these days? I mean I understand that consoles are more computer than anything else in the modern market but holy shit, at least they could try to emulate their predecessors in terms of sheer product longevity.
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>>2514250
There was a period of bad caps in East Asia manufactured electronics that famously affects the Sega Game Gear, but that's a decade later. Other than caps, there's not a whole lot to go wrong.

Almost everything that breaks in newer consoles is disc drive related.
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>>2514219
Shit tons of second hen controllers still work. They're very simple. Especially Atari controllers. It's a plastic lever that, when tilted, pushes down some contacts on a really simple and very thick circuit board on the bottom of the controller. There's not even a chip on it. Seriously dirt simple. You'd have to physically break a part for it to not work, and that's not really going to happen in normal use.
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>>2514263
>Almost everything that breaks in newer consoles is disc drive related

Theoretically it shouldn't be an issue to replace them if the drive mechanism is a standard CD/DVD, although finding one in the correct speed would be harder.

>>2514250
IDK. One Atari programmer wrote an online memoir I read and he claimed that they shut down their California plant and moved it to Taiwan after shit started going down in mid-1983. He said the plant was across the street from the company offices where the programmers worked.
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The rise and fall of Atari makes for some very entertaining reading. One factor being that they stopped innovating after the 70s. There was the 2600, then the computer line, and then...nothing. When Nolan Bushnell left following the sale to Warner in 1978, they really lost their engineering mojo.

Also the guys running the company post-sale were essentially just like the pointy haired boss in Dilbert. They didn't know anything about video games, they didn't care, and it was just another job to put on their resume.
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>>2514275
These posts make laugh and it's obvious they're made by kids are an idiot.
I really want to know your source of these Atari sticks that aren't loose shit.

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Japanese Computer Gaming General: Maymester Edition

Thread anthem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGYNHn-i_fw

//Pastebin//

>Links to vendors, emulators, game info, fansites, &c. You're open to share it.
http://pastebin.com/g99LycCJ

//Games//

>ROM sites w/games, tools, OS packs, &c.:
http://www.retroprograms.com/
https://archive.org/details/PC98_Games_1813
http://www.theoldcomputer.com/roms/index.php

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>>2514417
>let me deliberately enable the shitposter hurr hurr!

I want this meme to die and the people who perpetuate it beaten until they either die or promise never again to do such an idiotic thing.
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>>2514423
that meme will probably die when people stop shitposting
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>>2514439
so never
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>>2514449
correct
;_;
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>>2514401
None of the antialiasing filters are enabled?

And I had wondered where the retarded BiNs I had been seeing recently were coming from. Seriously fuck off eBay jesus fucking christ, the fucking flea markets and charity shops dont do this shit, this isn't your fucking business not to fucking mention how wrong and stupid these trending prices are. I swear to fucking god all this does is fuel reseller scum to jack up reasonable auction prices and buy all the reasonable BiNs and then resell the same shit a day later. This is fucking it.

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Uh, guys? Someone just found a fucking prototype console for the SNES Nintendo Playstation.

Story:
>Dad used to work at a company where Olaf, his co-worker, used worked at Nintendo
>Company went under. Dad was clearing stuff out there and found a box labeled "junk" that Olaf was supposed to throw out and that's where the console was found
>Came with a fucking prototype CD and cartridge.
>Nobody has a clue what's on them.
>OP currently searching for a power supply with the correct wattage, doesn't want to fry the thing.

Guy is currently posting on a forum under the name Dnldbld, check there for updates. http://assemblergames.com/l/threads/nintendo-snes-playstation-finally-uncovered.57166/). Dumping pictures in the mean time.
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>>2514485
It belongs in a museum!
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>>2514476
>One of those people are obsessively finding out where he lives and what retro store he's taking it to
>They're going to find out and actually go out to buy it up
>And then post 2 or 3 pictures and let it rot in storage forever
Where is the justice
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Kek. You can't take it with you.
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>>2514519
The guy doesnt know how to dump it. Its most likely going to vanish just like the Sega Saturn Pluto did after it was sold. No documentation just a bunch of jews out bidding each other.
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>>2514498
>purposely leave the EPROM chips exposed
Do people like that exist?
Kill me.

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>started playing this blind
>had no clue there was almost useless characters
>had no clue how to make a good party

how fucked am I guys? Would it be easier just to restart and play with a proper party? the thief is absolutely useless in combat.
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>>2514490
>But what about the Monk Armor bug?

Alluded to in the spoiler text here >>2514473
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>>2514405

that's true, but replacing a fighter with a blackbelt in the back row makes more sense. and magic coverage really is useful.
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>>2514473
Can you still equip armor for other characters while avoiding looking at the screen for BB, or do you have to swear off looking at any character's armor wholesale?
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>>2514527

You can't open the armor screen at all or his armor value is recalculated and will fall to the correct equipped value.
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>>2514527

The whole armor screen. But by level 50 I'd assume your equipment situation had been long since finalized.

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Previous thread - >>2484040

This thread is for the spirited discussion of CRT displays - Televisions, monitors and projectors used for the playing of retro games!

These past few threads have been great, keep it up!

>Try to keep it /vr/-related: Nothing past 5th gen(+Dreamcast). Slight OT might be okay if related to CRTs (E.G. 16:9 compatible models, flatscreens, etc.) Systems with backwards compatibility are also pretty safe territory, assuming you're focusing on the older games. PC CRTs are also a-ok.
>Produce OC! Get out your real cameras and take beautiful pictures of your CRTs displaying recognizable characters with the kind of beautiful accuracy that brings tears to the eyes of young and old alike! If you take 100 photos, at least one of them will turn out alright!
>Try to be as detailed as possible when asking info on a specific model. As always, google is your friend, and we are your friends with benefits. Older archived threads aren't a bad place to look either.
>Share appreciation for others choice of technology and personal philosophy of gaming. As always show courtesy in your discussion and moderate yourselves first.

CRT Pastebin (WIP): http://pastebin.com/1Ri5TS3x
Thread Survey: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1PhdXJYwA8xModrTV1Yt-i1tvNgwiagpeBx0m_xNIVtc/viewform?edit_requested=true&fbzx=9009823977812318933
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>>2513958
Turn the brightness up
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After what seemed like endless trial and error, I finally got my RGB set-up figured out.

Quick question--if I have a SCART to BNC cable with a built-in sync stripper, should I strictly buy composite video SCART cables, or should I buy CSYNC cables regardless? Will they work with the SCART to BNC cable I have?

My PVM-2950q only takes CSYNC.
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Another picture because why not.
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>>2514464
An lm1881 doesn't care if it's fed composite video, csync, or luma.
It doesn't matter what type of sync the cable you buy is using in this situation.
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I have a flat faced Toshiba with a DVD player that was just given to me, without the remote of course, and it works fine, but it appears to be in overscan mode, and despite having a full set of controls for the DVD player on the box itself, they left out menu controls, and so unless I buy a universal remote, I'm stuck using my Gameboy Player or other systems with the screen cut off by almost an inch, not to mention the corners distort all the time.

Is it worth it to get a remote for this TV, or should I just try to find another one?

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Didn't see a repair thread, so this gets its own thread.

I'm trying to load PS1 games on a PS2. It annoys me that it's half emulated, half authentic, but since my PS1 just died it's the best option to play bootlegs on nearly native hardware.

I've got a PS2 softmodded, and I understand how psxloader and pops work. However, for multidisc games it seems that you'd have to think of a work around for when the game wants you to swap discs, but the saving scheme doesn't let you continue on the next disc with your previous disc save (eg. FF9). I hear you can merge discs and load from a flash drive, but I also hear that for particularly large discs the file size gets too big to function (because of partition formats?) Is there a fix or workaround for this, or do I just have to get creative with a save editor?
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>>2511169
And if that's the case, does anyone have any specific recommendations for PSone modchips? The only ones I can find are for the original model.
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>>2511175
You could ask this guy on TIZ. Here's a thread to the chips he has. They work on both ps1 versions.
http://www.theisozone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=51692
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>>2509817
Sonic 3 barrel.
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>>2511085
I remember that thread. I actually tried to give the guy a serious answer at the end since nobody else explained directly, but the thread was already dead at that point and I have a feeling he was just pretending to be retarded
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I figured I'd ask, but which seem to work better for backups: Taiyo Yuden or Verbatime with AZO (DataLifePlus, IIRC?)? Or is it more a case of get both and see which one your drive and PS1/2 like more?


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