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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but ideally those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

Check the wiki, the catalog, and the archive before asking for advice or recommendations, and please refrain from starting new threads for questions that can be answered by a search engine.

/lit/ is a slow board! Please take the time to read what others have written, and try to make thoughtful, well-written posts of your own. Bump replies are not necessary.

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Guide to #bookz
https://www.geocities.ws/prissy_90/Media/Texts/BookzHelp19kb.htm
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Recommended Literature
http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading

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How are you supposed to deal with the fact that you'll never be able to transcend your own self-consciousness, that you'll always be stuck there in your own mind, forced to always be the subject, and no matter what you do or achieve you'll never become the Other, the object, what everyone else in the world is? Art is a way to escape but it isn't good enough, no matter how beautiful it may be the experience always has to end and then you're just left with the taste of ash and decay in your mouth, back to where you started.

I'm beginning to think the only way to escape is to embrace fulminating nihilism and hyperviolence, the incomprehensible exteriority, to be assaulted by forces from beyond space and time, beyond reason, become an inhuman mind in a human body. But how can one penetrate to the Outside? I like to imagine a giant obelisk, a cosmic cock, stretching out to the heavens and piercing through the veil in an act of extraterrestrial violence, and going ever onward into the screaming infinities.
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>>10415430
Violence is always the search for identity. What did the Archons expect us to do when electronic media hacked away at our identities, as we watched our selves fading away in an accelerated information environment leaving only impersonal drives behind?

I say fuck it. fuck everything. I am pure negation. And there are millions who agree with me. Did I fuck up or was it the world who fucked up? we secretly yearn for catastrophe, because there is nothing left but catastrophe. bring on the apocalypse.
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>>10415486
>they're both nevertheless excellent correctives to the cartesian problematic

Neither of them can possibly be philosophically convincing though. They are like Rorty and Pyrrho and so on; interesting but technically irrelevant. They give poetic or literary or psychological or whatever "solutions" but do not technically solve the old problems.
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>>10415486
>>10415486
There is no way to escape the externalist parallax perspective of viewing the world with your eyeballs like a television screen, drugs may work for a time but they too fade.
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>>10415377
'as silent as a mirror is believed
realities plunge in silence by'

just cleave and burn it, though this can only be learnt by those who spend themselves out, again, twice bleeding, eidolon
all this to say that you limit yourself, by this primacy of person
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>>10415500
OP wouldn't be in this position if he wasn't already convinced by a philosophical position and committed to a way of conceptualizing his relation to the world (i.e., as something standing outside of it looking sideways on at 'reality' and not as part of it genuinely engaging with other parts). It's not too ridiculous to suggest that he might -- at least possibly -- be brought out of that particular scheme and into one less painful and erroneous.

Soc.And that which has to be named has to be named withsomething?
Her.True.
Soc.What is that with which we pierce?
Her.An awl.
Soc.And with which we weave?
Her.A shuttle.
Soc.And with which we name?
Her.A name.
Soc.Very good: then a name is an instrument?
Her.Certainly.
Soc.Suppose that I ask, "What sort of instrument is a shuttle?"And you answer, "A weaving instrument."
Her.Well.
Soc.And I ask again, "What do we do when we weave?"- Theanswer is, that we separate or disengage the warp from thewoof.
Her.Very true.
Soc.And may not a similar description be given of an awl,and of instruments in general?

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Wittgenstein would have said we gain nothing by calling a name an "instrument". In the same way, we gain nothing by changing all of our definitions to the form of "x signifies y."

He would have suggested that a name is like a tool, but only in that it has various uses. (Think of all the uses of a hammer.)
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> Does he not look tothat which is naturally fitted to act as a shuttle?
Her.Certainly.
Soc.And suppose the shuttle to be broken in making, willhe make another, looking to the broken one? or will he look to the formaccording to which he made the other?
Her.To the latter, I should imagine.
Soc.Might not that be justly called the true or idealshuttle?


Is he trying to suggest: The Wordcreator looks to some ideal source to create words? Ideal words?

Obvious they are limited by the sounds the mouth can make. And obviously, asians, germans, balticians, jews, arabs dutch, excluded would choose easier mouth noises as compared to the extreme ends of possible mouth noises for extents of time:

So the limits of the 'ideal' of words is established by the limits of the sounds of mouth.
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bumps
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bump bunny
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braamp

What are you currently reading /lit/
>pic related
On page 5 and it's pretty riveting
Brings up some great points
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>>10415407
>the Soviet Union was a fucking stagnant shit hole
>recovered on its own after taking the brunt of WW2 and still explored space before the US even thought about it
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>>10415482
>recovered on its own after taking the brunt of WW2 and still explored space before the US even thought about it

>doesn't understand guns versus butter

butter society > guns society
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>>10415488
>butter society > guns society
Disagreed
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>>10415251
>why socialism works
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Come one, come all, come pseuds and brainlets of all ages. Now that the semester has ended, the time is ripe to show off your collections.
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>>10413917
nm, found it. Zhang. I almost never see a book from Hawaii. And this one being a comparison of Plato's ideas and some chingchongbingbong's works actually looks fascinating.

Overall nice collections m8s, enjoyed browsing this thread.
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>>10400849
Le Morte d'Arthur is a tough read good luck
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>>10400849
>le fleur du mal
>in translation

brainlet.
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>>10402975
Set those Prison School volumes in order, I don't care which, just choose one.
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>>10403850
>There's literally nothing wrong with barnes and nobel leatherbound
Not inherently, but there is plenty wrong with some of them. I once saw bookcase that was almost entirely B&N leatherbounds, and one of them was Da Vinci Code & Lost Symbol in one volume.

I like Dan Brown, he's not great, but it's perfect for reading on the toilet. Keeps my attention, and easy to stop suddenly.
But that was a waste of a perfectly good cow.

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Gonna superlike her and see if she can get me a job at Penquin Random House. What /lit/ related joke should I start off with when we match?
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You won't match.
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>>10415507
Im not ugly like you so yes I will
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>>10415505
seeing that I just realized what a failure and ineligible bachelor I am.

I'm nothing, no one and afraid of everything
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>>10415505
she looks 33 at best. Why is the new aesthetic "old lady"?
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>haha I see you're a minority and probably unqualified for your job, they just picked you up to fill a quota
>nice problem bangs, I bet you've read less than ten books in the past year and can't name the protagonist of a single Dostoevsky novel
>you're an assistant? how many cocks at least a decade older than you have you sucked since starting your job?
>you have a stern face in your profile picture, meaning you'll try to come across as intense, irritable, and complex but at heart you're still reeling from your unresolved childhood traumas and the intelligence you had to develop to compensate for your B- looks

any of those OP

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We've had some good Dylan threads, so how about Cohen. What do you think of the ol' romancer's work?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLsoQU_rlso

His best song imo. One of his most simple but to me it sums his vision up perfectly.
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>>10415304
I hope you realize how stupid you sound mimicking these jewish talking points and still being ignorant of the JQ on the brink of 2018.
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>>10415406
Referring to a specific number of stormtards who hang out on an obscure image board is a Jewish talking point? Did the Elders of Zion send me a memo telling me to say there are about 3 stormtards who always hang out on /lit/?
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>>10415388
That's a great song. I think "Lady Midnight" is another great simple one that he wrote. Concise, and it sends off many currents of perception.
"Suzanne" is the one that I find most affecting. It has a certain mysticism that I haven't found elsewhere, although I think there's probably some poem I haven't read that moves in similar ways.
"There are heroes in the seaweed
There are children in the morning
They are leaning out for love
And they will lean that way forever
While Suzanne holds the mirror"
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>>10414616
>posts the most poetic mainstream artists of our time
>response is jew this euro that

Jesus. How does Cohen fit into your Jewish meme? His relationship to religion is nothing political.

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R.I.P.

You will be missed.
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>>10413942
t. someone who doesn't know that I was the actual poster questioning purple prose, literary advice, and publications to merely showcase the fact that I -- the mastermind in question --just so happen to be Stem Chad, as well as the recipient of a national award for one of my published stories. This affords me many luxuries, such as: entrancing tinder sluts with my arcane knowledge of Riemann mathematics, and just how it relates to the augmented intertexuality that manifests within reality in recent postmodern pieces, showcasing the ever-elusive chase of human beings reaching for art that properly captures the brutality of chance, petty frustrations, and the absurdity of aging; having my work read by tens of people; dropping truth bombs like it's nothing on here.

Gotta go now. Gonna tap the 17th slut this weekend.
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>>10413614
>>10413665
>>10413796
>>10413863
>>10413942
>>10413968

This is the fourth fucking time this week.
Fuck off, Stem Chad.
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>>10366605
That's the look you give when you need to take a wet and greasy, sloppy shit.
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>>10366605
Why did he always look so sad?
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bumbby

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This kind of thread
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>>10415146
Too normal in all categories.
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i have bad taste in most things
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>>10414608
No, I'm objectively better than you all and have better things to do than waste my time on you.
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>>10411158
I said it last thread and I'll say it again. I have no doubt being around you would be insufferable. What a massive faggot

How do I into poetry?
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>>10411370
Songs of Innocence and Experience
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>>10411370
GOD FUCKING DAMNITT YOU STUPID FUCKING FAGGOTS, IF WE GIVE YOU AN AUTHOR LOOK UP THEIR FUCKING WORKS AND DECIDE WHAT LOOKS APPEALING; STOP FUCKING DEPENDING ON OTHERS TO LEARN I HATE YOU SO MUCH

TIRIEL
SONGS OF INNOCENCE AND EXPERIENCE
MARRIAGE OF HEAVEN AND HELL
BOOK OF URIZEN

EAT SHIT FAGGOT
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>>10413184

This
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>>10410914
Learn a second language. There is no good poetry in English
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>>10410914
What's peroty?

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get fuckin hype

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Hey /lit/
So I've been a long term hater of english, books and anything remotely related to literature.
However, I've decided I need a way to pass time instead of wasting away on my phone and I reckon reading may be a decent pastime.
So,
ITT : Books you think everybody should read.
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the sticky
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>>10414560
Whatever the fuck they want, fuck off to your containment board, whichever it may be.
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>>10414560
think for yourself. this is /blog/ not /lit/

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Just want some opinions. If you don't get something, tell me specifically.
_______________________________

I try to whistle that tune you taught me.
Only issue is, I can't whistle.
the only gift of love, unable to be heard.
Ironic.

But its alright.
The grass here is sharp,
paralyzing logic, manufacturing sorrow,
Perfect for your melodies.

Did you know?
The leaves are gentle as they die.

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>>10415282
I like it, but It comes off as altogether too pretentious, and the flow isn't quite right. It has a good concept, but poor execution. Also, it feels like you couldn't decide if you wanted it to be conversational or not, and that causes it to feel halfway between the two. But that's just how I feel. A lot of people seem to like that balance. Here's something I need reviewed.
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>>10414547
>>10414593
>>10415282
all bad, you don’t have the talent. either put in the hours or don’t bother. my eyes hurt
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When the sun is low
and the breeze has gone
We will meet again
to sing our last refrain

Oh the neverending cold
you must have grown so old
But now the breeze has gone
and, too, the sun is low

Wrap around my sheets of wind
Set alight the self within
Strike out on my endless skin
I'll still be here when you rescind


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A congestion of thorns bulging,
And splashing over one another,
The way laundry gets thrown,
And contorted in the wash.
Or that condition where too many teeth
Start to fill in one place.

Each spike is adroitly placed for decoration,
And painted with something that is,
Like silver, but more sullen,
And unabashedly so.

Makes a sparkling dress that mesmerizes,
Those lonesome folk who dine on peeks through,
Bludgeoned glass.

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This is Terry Prachett, author of the multi-protagonist, humorous Discworld series. Say something nice about him!
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>>10414704
He's british
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>>10414704
Red like 40 of his discworld novels in 6 months when I was 15. Never opened one single book of him again, but shit was funny. It's been 6 years already.
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>>10414879
looks like you remember some of it
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>>10414704
i miss him
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>>10414704
Invented Bane posting

>look round charity shops in my area (East Midlands) for works of literary merit
>find nothing but celeb bios/airport novels after 3 dozen shops in as many towns
>go to Cornwall and look round the charity shops in towns (St Ives & St Agnes were great for this)
>almost every single shop has joyce, milton, chaucer, shakespeare and usually a shitton of other canonical works
What did they mean by this?
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>>10414909
You too.
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>>10408888
this thread reminded me
if anyone's near basingstoke
pop into the british heart foundation shop in the town centre
they have a stack of everyman's library hardbacks on the shelf at the moment. all classic stuff like proust, stendhal etc
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>>10414753

What the fuck is there apart from city centres? The suburbs are pleasant when you're young but there is nothing to do there when you're older
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>>10415290

Most small villages and towns still retain some air of niceness if you're willing to look for it: Country parks. Craft fayres. Vintage shops. Botanical gardens. Tearooms. Golf courses. Village pubs. Aerodromes. Etc.

Problem is that most of these are better in summer. In winter, hibernate and try not to get too depressed. It's probably not you that's the problem; it's just that urban living is hellish.
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>>10414479
LOL but really, where?



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