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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

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You can't derive an 'ought' from an 'is' - prove me wrong.
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Guys, there's a hot stove right next to me.
What should I go? I wanna touch it. How am I ought to act? Please halp!
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Actually, there is no duality between is/ought. Every 'is' is because it is an ought.
Prove me right. That'll be far more interesting than explaining myself.
It's the other way around. Every ought ought because it is

Doubles are wasted on your hopefully ironic tumblrposting.


Someone's been reading After Virtue.

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/lit/ humour thread needed
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based but bluepilled
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>humour thread
I guess you accidentally posted the wrong pic.
>not a human wheel pushed along by various arms and legs

d r o p p e d

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I stepped out onto the midway. I was looking for the pirate ship and saw this small, old tent at one end. It was blue and had white lights hanging all around it. I decided to check out the tent, it seemed I could hear music coming from inside. As I walked toward it, I passed a crowd of people at the sideshow

I couldn't figure out why they would want to wait in line. I pulled back the drape thing on the tent. There was a crystal ball at the table, and behind it, a girl wearing a hat. She smiled, and asked me if I wanted my fortune read. I said okay and sat down. I thought about it for a minute, and asked her if she would rather go on the roller coaster instead.

Creeping up into the sky. Stopping, at the top, and starting down. The girl grabbed my hand, I clutched it tight. I said good-bye to the ground.

Far below, a soiled man. A bucket of torn tickets at his side he watches as the children run by, And picks his teeth.

Spinning round, my head begins to turn.
I shouted, and searched the sky for a friend.
I heard the fortune teller, screaming back at me.
We stuck out our hands and met the wind.

The girl falters as she steps down from the platform. She clutches her stomach, and begins to heave. The ticket-taker smiles, and the last car is ready. Who told you that you could leave?

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Such an overrated album. The Post-Hardcore/Math Rock hybrid was perfected with Yank Crime.
without Spiderland Yank Crime doesn't exist

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Should I join the local literature club?

I need to meet some friends
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On rue pédé.
I wonder the same
Everyone I've ever met that lists "smart" as one of their characteristics is a jackass
90% of they're just full of pretentious people and "tortured artist" types who don't understand literature or philosophy but think they do.
Can you stop spamming her on /mu/?

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>The ultimate law of language is, dare we say, that nothing can ever reside in a single term. This is a direct consequence of the fact that linguistic signs are unrelated to what they designate and that, therefore, 'a' cannot designate anything without the the aid of 'b' and vice versa, or, in other words, that both have value only by the difference between them.

The idiot sees Semiotics as meaning vs. absurdity. The cynic sees it as absurdity vs. absurdity. The Philosopher sees it as meaning vs. meaning.
Derrida is based and the only people who say otherwise can't understand him
>it's sooo hard to understand that meaning can only have meaning in reference to other meanings
Imagine being this much a brainlet
it's also patently wrong albeit a low hanging fruit for pseuds desperate to come up with something 'smart'

>tfw you realize kierkegaard predicted the mass takeover of social media and the rise of NPCs
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You must be a very slow thinker if you talk to yourself all the time.

>Should I cross the street?
>How much does this slab of meat weigh?
>Should I buy this? But my refrigerator is full. I need to throw out the leftovers or eat them first.
>I need to take a shit now.
>God damnit. This bathroom stinks!
>I need to wipe my ass. Uggh, the toilet paper is stuck in my asshole. Wish there was a bidet here.
>Can't clean my hands properly this faucet that only sprinkles water!
>God damn, I got a parking ticket.
lol it's not "talking to yourself", it's something else, it's your subconscious manifesting itself via language but in your head, you must be an NPC or else an explanation wouldn't be necessary, and the girl is dumb, literally forgets her dues and shit.
So you hear voices in your head?
No, that would make me a possible schizophrenic. My mind just happens to connect ideas and it uses language for this, most of the time. Some other times I think in terms of images. I could be reading a book while also thinking on its possible ramifications. But this girl incident was spooky for me, I thought NPCs were just a meme. I really can't imagine what is it like.
Read up on Lacan's unconscious having the structure of language and it will make a lot more sense.

What’s the “Smells Like Teen Spirit” of literature?
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I can't tell if this is a joke or not lol
dude liked "perfume" a lot, maybe that
honestly that now that i think of it in the context
In Utero is second to Nevermind in terms of popularity. If anything, it's Bleach that hipsters decide to pick. It's unironically their best album too

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This seems like a good place to ask this
I'm about to start my final year of high school and at uni in 2020 I will most likely be taking a German language class. Is it a good idea to start learning basics over next year when I won't regularly be able to talk with a native speaker? If so, how should I start? Is Duolingo helpful or a total meme?

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> Houellebecq is able to give such a convincing portrait of incel-thinking because at some level he seems to share its core assumption, representing sex as something that women owe men.
> This misogyny can make reading Houellebecq an ordeal, and he ought to be read with the suspicion and resistance that his ideas deserve.
> But all the same, he ought to be read

well, /lit/ ?
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>representing sex as something that women owe men
That idea is no more wrong than the idea than the rich owe the poor. Both are questionable but worth discussing.
feminist rhetoric is endless in its oppressive moralizing bullshit
>representing sex as something that women owe men.
ah, the commodification of sex
Nor are houellebecq’s
>Adam Kirsch
Funny to read something like that from the member of a literal incest-ridden cult

wooo let's operationalize art for its most polemic ephemeral concerns there ain't nothing else going on in it at all haha EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING is an expression of identity lets go identity squad roll out

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Wow, this book fucking sucks
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You might want to try one of the 20 or so synonyms for this word, polypo. There's also nothing to refute, people are paid for their work performances, not for their feefees in free time.
I'm not the biggest Peterson fan, but this accusation is pathetic. A recent MSM article in my country essentially blamed him for being alt-right adjecent, the source being a study of youtube "connections".

The idea is that if you've ever talked to someone who has ever talked to someone who is alt-right—regardless of whether you agreed or not—you're alt-right adjacent, and this is supposedly dangerous because this way, people who listen to someone like Peterson might eventually be exposed to someone like Richard Spencer through these so-called connections. Never mind that lots of mainstream media have talked to Peterson, meaning they would be at the very least alt-right adjacent adjacent...

It's basically six degrees of Kevin Bacon for political ideologues where even the most distant association is a sin.
>self help books are for people who need help
What a shock! I don't know why you're so angry and feel the need to demean me.
By making comments like these, you're contributing negatively to society while also not making any personal gain. Fucking brainlet.
That report was less of Peterson being one of them and more of how YouTube algorithms works.

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Sup /lit/, I plan to read Siddhartha, Storm of Steel and Metamorphosis in German, even though I don't know much of it, in order to initiate myself into reading German better. Does this sound like a good idea? Anyone know better texts? Sehr danke lads.

Is she /lit/?
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come to think of it, have you ever seen them in the same room together? and don't bother posting any of those doctored photos of them in the same room together, i've seen them and they're 100% fake news
>He even said his first reading of 'Howl' by Allen Ginsburg was one of the most magical moments of his life.
Because she's a public figure and it's more impressive to say you like Dostoyevsky, there might also be vague implications of Christian pandering to her American base.
>All Quieter the Western Front
point out the bernie supporters ITT

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how do I become smart enough to read and understand this?
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Best post, only he can actually know what his mind was doing at each phase.


OP, it's not so much being smart, as being culturally prepped/well read, to understand and pick up on the various memes/jokes/references. I've read almost none of what I'm about to quote you, but it's clear to me that reading this stuff is a big help.

-Iliad/Odyssey (Ulysses prep).
-Some Plato/Aristotle (prep since Joyce received a classical Western education and used that in his stuff)
-a brief history of Ireland, take your pick (cultural grounding)
-Joyce's major works: Dubliners, Potrait, Ulysses (natch, a progression for understanding what comes later)
-Vico, New Science (purported to be a basis for the Wake)

-Personally, I found it useful to read large books about the Book of Kells (that edition's image) and the Bayeux Tapestry over a year ago, for general cultural grounding and out of personal interest. Still, the above for their own sake at the time.

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Add to this obviously familiarity with the various languages that Joyce was using/punning in, generally northern euro languages and whatever else.

Why bother posting when clearly neither of (You) have read Finnegans Wake.
its literally drunk ramblings by a man who enjoyed smelling farts
The beginning of the sentence is at the end of the book for some reason.

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Romantic Edition

What's your favorite fantasy or science fiction romance?


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What did you guys think of "The Eschaton Sequence" series?
I actually thought the series ended at book four because of how well it wrapped things up back in 2015 and didn't find the last two books until this year.
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How is this series?
I played the games and they were pretty alright so I want to think the books are at least decent.
I've only read 2 of his non-Prydain books and been meaning to read more. I'll put Iron Ring on top of my list.
his twitter is still better than most author
Some people I trust told me the first book at least is very good but I couldn't stand the translated prose, it was quite grating, so I dropped it after a bit.

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