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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but ideally those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

Check the wiki, the catalog, and the archive before asking for advice or recommendations, and please refrain from starting new threads for questions that can be answered by a search engine.

/lit/ is a slow board! Please take the time to read what others have written, and try to make thoughtful, well-written posts of your own. Bump replies are not necessary.

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http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading

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Name some overprivileged authors and thinkers.
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>>8792624
>Not to the point where you use it as an excuse to entirely wreck your fucking economy.
???
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>>8792632

>you know what, if I was a dictator, I would have done stuff differently
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>>8792639
I'm trying to make sense of your rambling, pls do not add even more nonsensical rambling.
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>>8792646

I don't care enough about "le poor peepulz :(" to fuck up the entire system.
Imperfect yes, but holy fucking shit, what is the alternative? Some tweaks are ok, but not your romantic illusions of a revolution. Or that euro model bullshit that can't sustain itself once the USA leaves Europe to cover its own ass.
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>>8792654
>once the USA leaves Europe
Ride that tiger hard bro.

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Now that /lit/'s resident philosopher Nick Land has officially endorsed Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson, is it time to drop the Marx and Wittgenstein threads and discuss some REAL intellectuals?
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all girls should be spayed at birth
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>>8792603
Again, google. Hell, you can even email him.
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>>8792612
You call him one of the greatest scientists of our time, yet you aren't willing to expend the energy to defend that statement by explaining, not even in a single sentence, why that is the case?
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>>8790954
why fucking michio senkaku is there
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>>8792621
I said nothing of the sort, but it is very easy to find information now.

But I concede. He realized that language is in fact a quantum singularity and that all philosophy can be described as higher vibrations of the shrodinger equation.

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Dan Schneider claims to have written 1500 genuinely great poems. By comparison, the greatest published poet of all time, Rainer Maria Rilke, has only 77: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJrj7WvTt8Y

This makes Dan Schneider a literary genius the likes of which the world has never before seen. Hard to believe? Read his poems and judge for yourself: http://cosmoetica.com/Poetrylinks.htm

I'd link a specific one, but that shouldn't matter, as they're all supposedly great. His wife, of course, is the second greatest poet of all time: http://www.cosmoetica.com/Jessica%20Schneider.htm

He also likes to improve poems written by other authors by cutting out unnecessary lines. He performs such excisions on such beloved greats as Yeats, Eliot, Keats, Frost, Ashbery and plenty of others: http://www.cosmoetica.com/TOP.htm

For some examples of his criticism, see him take 2/3 of the meme trilogy to task:

http://www.cosmoetica.com/B1277-DES888.htm
http://www.cosmoetica.com/B326-DES266.htm

He's a bit kinder to Ulysses, but also considers it extremely overrated, and feels that the film adaptation is superior: https://web.archive.org/web/20111006165411/http://www.noripcord.com/reviews/film/bloom


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Not this guy again

He's a rambling idiot
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>>8792641
I'll agree he's a narcissist, but for the sake of argument, may you explain?
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Dan 'Dick like a tin can' Schneider
Dan 'Get in the van' Schneider
Dan 'The Hymen divider' Schneider

etc.

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How do you guys feel about this? Is it okay to censor literature or is it wrong to showcase works that use words like nigger that are frowned upon nowadays?

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/1/huckleberry-finn-to-kill-a-mockingbird-pulled-from/
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nothing should be censored
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>>8792289
>No recommendation has been made

No one in this thread read the article even though it's less than a page

>/lit/
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>>8792456
>No recommendation has been made

The cucks at the school board are going to ban them anyway, the only reason it took so long is because of "procedure"
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>>8792289
Huckleberry Finn was a blast to read out loud in class. They say nigger about 10 times per page in some sections.
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>>8792289
>muh censorship
Can we end this meme? Nobody's banning the fucking book, they're just taking it off the curriculum. REAL banned books are banned quietly so as to avoid the Streistand effect. Also
>To Kill A Mockingbird
Literally dindu nuffin: the book

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Wittgenstein had long been troubled by his inability to appreciate the greatness of Shakespeare. In 1946, for example, he had written:

>It is remarkable how hard we find it to believe something that we do not see the truth of for ourselves. When, for instance, I hear the expression of admiration for Shakespeare by distinguished men in the course of several centuries, I can never rid myself of the suspicion that praising him has been the conventional thing to do; though I have to tell myself that this is not how it is. It takes the authority of Milton really to convince me. I take it for granted that he was incorruptible. - But I don't of course mean by this that I don't believe an enormous amount of praise to have been, and still to be, lavished on Shakespeare without understanding and for the wrong reasons by a thousand professors of literature.

>One of the difficulties he had in accepting Shakespeare as a great poet was that he disliked many of Shakespeare's metaphors and similes: "Shakespeare's similes are, in the ordinary sense, bad. So if they are all the same good - and I don't know whether they are or not - they must be a law to themselves.

Why didn't Wittgenstein like Shakespeare?
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>>8787407
>tfw nietzche never got to die at the right moment OR watch us hold his golden ball
;___________;
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>>8791959
>faust is a play
>this is what plebs believe

lmao

also goethe sorta disavowed werther desu
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>>8791926
Yes, and?
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>>8791850
I was employing the vocabulary of the person I was quoting.

However, to define my own terms, I suppose "authoritarian" is the kingly, even dictatorial, disposition in humans. It's the impulse that makes us lay out the way the world should be for everyone, as though we're rulers of the Earth. Everyone seems to have this inclination.
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>>8792549
I think a more accurate word for the concept you're describing is "utopian" - the idea that there is a perfect and achievable solution, which doesn't necessarily correspond to authoritarianism or dictatorship though it's very likely to; you can also have a non-utopian dictatorship, seeking to control things not to perfect them, but merely to improve.

How does one become a poet? I get it, write poetry and be good at it, but let's say an individual has a bunch of work that he'd like published, what next?

Don't most publishers just reject people because they aren't famous classical poets? It's like in the art music scene where people don't really care about hosting your piano recital if you're doing original music. People want the big names of old.
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>>8792018


Or say you're trans
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>>8792007
Bump
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>>8792504
I think they about covered it.
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>>8792007
Participate in poetry contests. That's how I got a short story published.
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>>8792007
be good at something else, get famous for that and then publish shitty poetry like every normal poet does

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>1
The clouds do crumble;
To fall or return?
The abdication of reign to rain.

Cheerful youth and rushing suits,
Cool wasps as raindrops.
Imber silence ember.

>2
Of that which I am,
Into
I will fall.
To kill is not to damn,
To deliver to the all.

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>>8790376
It is one piece. I dunno what to tell you, it's supposed to be unorthodox.
>>8790917
Ha! Good try Mr. Angst but I've only posted this one other time at the end of a dying thread.

It's interesting to earn such venom for merely employing an approach that conflicts with your preference. It'd be prudent to figure out what you're overcompensating for. Though, if your patronizing tone is any indication, I'm sure you already consider yourself perfectly self aware.
>>8791827
I'd like to hear what your opinion is.
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I woke up this morning to find myself missing
Something that should have been there.
At first it was subtle and then I realised
All of a sudden I just didn't care.
I thought back to last night
then with a start
Shock filled my brain.
And suddenly I remembered
my 'Significant Other' pain.
I leapt up with a shout
My heart full of glee
And in my mind's eye
Kissed goodbye to a Banshee.
And yet then I turned,
And Surveyed my domain

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>>8788809
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>>8791816
Can I ask what's wrong with it?

>>8792342
Saved. Wonderful work, Anon
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>>8788809
Of that encrusting passion,
endurance only,
to the lost;
where once her gaze,
froze that pedestal heart;
on sojourn call,
hark! and that,
frigid plain,
foamy and rife,
abreast of fear,
and of strife;

such quality, only to tempt,
lemnian recourse;

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Has anyone actually read this or any of her other works?
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is there any merit in popular politicians' books at all? by figureheads of any party/political affiliation. i always thought that the non-academic books were just cashing in on the fame in a "dignified" way
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>>8792572
youre probably right about cashing in. they are for the human cattle who watch all the shows and know all the names and believe everything they hear if it suits their biases. my parents have a load of them in from politicians, show hosts, and pundits, but they are still pretty dumb from what I can tell.
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>>8792572
>popular politicians
They cannot afford to be authentic.
Only the underdogs could possibly write books that could shake the fundaments of society.
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>>8792626
>underdogs
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>>8791916
>works
kek

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So, i bought a Kindle, downloaded everything from lovecraft and now i don't know where to go. Can you reccomend me the best occult/horror/mystery books you know. Anything with a sense of a bigger darker meaning goes too.
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>>8792628
Thanks a lot man, that'sounds a really quality reply. Will check everything out, Thomas Ligotti sounds really interesting
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>>8792644
Fucking autocorrect.

*that's
*seems
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the king in yellow
also search lovecraft contemporaries (i cant remember their names)
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>>8792554
>downloaded everything from lovecraft

I'm so sorry.
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>>8792644
He totally is because despite being dense stuff the man has a really eloquent narrative voice. You might not have a clue of what he is saying but his words will grab you regardless.

If you want something more in the vein of Lovecraft check out Clark Ashton Smith, personal friend of Lovecraft and writer of some great tales too. There's also Laird Barron who is pretty much the poster boy for modern "weird fiction" and has even been called the new Lovecraft. I don't think his stuff is THAT good but you might like it.

>>8792651
This too, although just the first four stories, the rest is romantic drivel.

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I've tried to get into his videos but his analysis are so surface level and brief. I wonder if he is actually even reading them.
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Love this guy, seems smart
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>>8790345
>>8790352
no way, he looks at least 35-40
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>>8787193
>at first he kept pretending to be tired
My God you nailed it.
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>>8785421
The only reason to make fun of Cliff is because he dresses and acts self-absorbed slacker and thinks it is a perfectly acceptable excuse for a personality. His summaries are fine if you haven't heard of the book and are looking for recs that are similar to his taste. Otherwise, if you're looking for a University level analysis what the hell are you doing on YouTube?
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>>8792636
Having read most of the books he reviews, his reviews are terrible. It seems like he read the wiki page and some goodreads quotes, but not the novels themselves. Motherfucker seems to care a lot more about how his clothes look than about literature whatsoever. The type of guy who spends hours shaving his chest and deliberately making himself look like he has a perpetual 5 o'clock shadow

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>/lit/ loves Christianity now
What in Dawkins' name happened?
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>>8792520
>I don't believe in God. I wish I could do the leap of faith, since I am despairing.
I'm in the boat buddy.
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>>8792520
I've often felt that Kierkegaard protested too much. It's not a matter of a leap of faith, a Herculean effort on the part of the believer. It's a matter of seeking out and being open to God acting in your life.
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>>8792467
How am I supposed to get sky cake after I die if you're over here talking about sky fudge?
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>>8792591
It's quite Herculean if you simply don't believe (maybe even can't believe) in the supernatural.
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man is only a vessel, so that fudge may be.

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It's a six word story thread.
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>>8792542
However, the reverse is also true.
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>>8792559
State-sanctioned murder is nothing new.
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I never knew bedbugs caused psychosis.
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Wish I had friends, oh well.
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Booby traps trap traps with boobs

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Thoughts on Nietzsche?
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>>8790254
Someone surely doesn't know what overcompensating means.
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>>8790234
I actually reccomend starting at Jazz. It's a bit simple, but the conclusion really puts the whole work into perspective.
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The man had some serious pipes
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>>8789021
>says Nietzsche
>posts Bowie
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Nietzsche and Liberace got all the bitches

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Describe your writing style
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>>8790624
Zero affect
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>>8790913
Trump wanted to pick Gov. Kreme Krispie, but the GOP made him pick Pence. It's well documented.

Just about everyone Trump has selected has been a swampy GOP cretin.
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>>8792259
>Listening to the MSM
He's going to need to employ someone to drain the swamp, there is a danger to employing the goblins who live there for the task but on the other hand you don't want someone who has never been in it to help you navigate it either.
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>>8790653
This could be the title of a poetry or short story collection.
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>>8792643
It makes sense for the title of something to describe it's contents



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