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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but ideally those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

Check the wiki, the catalog, and the archive before asking for advice or recommendations, and please refrain from starting new threads for questions that can be answered by a search engine.

/lit/ is a slow board! Please take the time to read what others have written, and try to make thoughtful, well-written posts of your own. Bump replies are not necessary.

Looking for books online? Check here:
Guide to #bookz
http://www.ak3d.net/help.htm
Bookzz
http://bookzz.org/
Recommended Literature
http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading

I'm looking for a book that's filled with mental breaking torment and humiliation which is not a porno book. I am looking for a book that has an actual story, preferably one that involves piss and scat.
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100 Days of Reddit
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>>8206627
Is reddit really more badass than this shitty board? Seriously, this board is infested with pseudo moralist christ fag repugnicans. I seriously hate this board, but I always hated the layout of reddit and it's upvote system.
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>>8206637
underaged are not allowed to browse this board

Edward Feser new book incoming
Topic is defense of the capital punishment, should be out in 3 or so months.
Guess it's Edward Feser general and by extension thomist, aristotelian and conservative author discussion is welcomed.
https://m.soundcloud.com/thomisticinstitute/prof-edward-feser-protecting-and-taking-human-life-6416?in=thomisticinstitute/sets/6th-annual-philosophy-workshop-aquinas-on-politics
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>>8206441
I don't have a patience problem, just interested in how difficult it is. His other works were written so most can understand them, which is good.
I like how he doesn't need to obscurify like many other modern authors.
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how long it gonna take for this to come out
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>>8206620
Guess a few months, depending on when they finish it. He's got a coauthor.
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>>8206620
who tf knows. he apparently has a book on phil of nature coming out sometime, too.
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>>8206643
I hope he'll start cranking out more 600 pages tomes on relevant subjects as followup to his introductory material.

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How important is a good opener? Or is the prose style / progression / plot more your thing?

I'm having some trouble, as i always have, with opening my newest short; I know what I want to say but struggle for about a week to find a good way of saying it.

What are your favs? Post examples?

>A screaming comes across the sky. It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.

>Hanno the Navigator,the Carthaginian explorer of the fifth century BC, also known as King Hanno II, is distinguished by having a crater on the moon named after him.

>The sun shone, having no alternative, on the nothing new.

>Stately, plump Buck Mulligan came from the stairhead, bearing a bowl of lather on which a mirror and a razor lay crossed.
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I hate doing openers, because I can't find a good one. Either the first sentence is something said by a character, or it is something boring as fuck like "It rained on...".
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>>8206648
This is my problem, man.

Or it starts with something like "though"

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>read ligotti it's fun

thanks faggots, forever a puppet now
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>>8205525
It gives a really level-headed survey of historic pessimisms, engages with scientific psychology, manages to maintain a compelling style, is very well written, doesn't pussyfoot around like contemporary academic philosophy, and, surprisingly, is very humble in its conclusions (Ligotti doesn't pretend that pessimism is an objective truth, but explores the pessimistic perspective with respect to the world/life/existence and contra the ubiquitous popular optimism). Plus it's pretty short.
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>>8205680
>is very well written
this is what I don't understand. how can people be saying this? if you like what he's saying, that's fine. but his writing style is not good.
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>>8204992
I TRIED SO HARD
AND GOT SO FAR
BUT IN THE END
IT DIDN'T EVEN MATTER
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>forever a puppet now
Ha ha! Got you, bitch.
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>>8206522
elaborate

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>Nietzsche
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>>8206591
jesus christ, swoon.
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Sun Tzu.
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Joyce.
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Schopenhauer.
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>>8206647
One of the best phil seminars I ever attended was "Philosophy of Boredome".
Good times.

>"Some stores handle shoplifting losses by actuarial methods, simply adding
a small amount to prices to cover losses rather than depending upon
policing of the store" E. Lemert. Social Pathology. p.305.

Why dont you reappropiate some books if we are all paying for them anyway?
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>>8206489
it's rather hard to find newer books online

i dont steal but i can see why one would
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>>8206505
>newer books
woman detected
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>>8206575
>muh anti-intellectualism

reddit is that way ->
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>>8206422
this seems like justification for shoplifting in general, not just in book stores.
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>>8206597
You don't know whether other stores use the same compensation method as bookstores, though.

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What books deal with explaining personality types?

Also, what books explain how to get friends based on it and even how to pick up girls based on personality.
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remove this meme thread

My extremely shit porn story sold one copy on amazon.com
I'm $0.35 richer
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>>8206492
Link pls
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>>8206492
link it then
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How long did it take you to make a sale from the time you published it?
I've been thinking about trying to get on the porn train by writing more niche stories (incest or something), but I don't know if it would really be worth it for the most part.
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Currently working on a story heavily set upon enf/exhib... Hope there's a market for it.

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>britain wants to secede from the EU
>scotland wants to secede from britain for political reasons
>london wants to secede too

where were you when theautist in pic related proved to be correct?

secession and exit politics are the future...

as well as uncontrolled capitalist accumulation and AIpocalypse
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>>8206602
>All events take place online via Google+ Hangouts
if you were ever travelling to Shanghai, you could probably just email him and he'd meet up, pretty sure he just sits around reading and writing all day while doing the odd lecture and horror e-book
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>>8206613
Yeah, I was really surprised to find out he has a family (and friends too!)
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>>8206616
>Nick Land will never be your dad
>you'll never hear his dorky laugh as he looks at pictures of dead Venezuelans and browses /pol/
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>>8206611
although he talks a lot about HBD, its hard to say where he stands in regards to it. He doesn't condone the tribalism and inbreeding of white 'cracker' society, but he does see the value of its identity politics, being able to instigate its own exit from an America increasingly at odds with its values– just look at the way Texas has been inspired to try for its own independence.
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>>8206634
If you read his Dark Enlightenment essay it's obvious that he believes in the HBD stuff 100% but thinks the differences between races will seem like nothing compared to the differences that will arise in the near future (according to him) between genetically modified humans and non-genetically modified and is therefore a less pressing an issue.

Any recommendations for those starting with Stephen King?

>It
>The Shining
>etc.
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>>8205589
I think it's the sad aftereffects of an r/books visitation.
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>>8204034
I recommend you to reconsider reading Stephen King.
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R A G E
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don't waste your time
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>>8204034
Check out one of his early short story collections, Night Shift or Skeleton Crew. They do a good job of representing his range as a writer and the stories collected are mostly inventive, atmospheric and memorable. After that try Salem's Lot or Pet Sematary, or Different Seasons if you're more a fan of his less fantastical stories.

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Fuck this book ;_;
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>>8206624
Can you post in spoiler specifically why fuck this book? I remember it was a good novel, nothing spectacular, but a pretty story written well enough, but I'm particularly biased because the person who made me read it was my first girlfriend who was killed a couple of years after this, and about a year after we broke up.
Oddly enough, I can't remember much of the book now.

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Whats lit's opinion of this fucker?

Only read a few essays but so far im impressed. I've been feeling that the right had disintegrated intellectually, and its nice to see I was wrong.
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His stuff is great. I loved his Basic economics
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>>8206320
Usually the only stuff people direct to >>>/pol/ is nonsense cuckold-themed shitposting and "redpilled" garbage. I've seldom seen actual discussion about rightist thought get shit on.
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>>8206235
He and Walter E. Williams are based af. Blacks hate them! Black conservatives learn to deconstruct the welfare state using one weird trick...

Learn more >>
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Listen to the real history of slavery on YouTube, it's fantastic. Should be required reading (er, listening; nigs don't read) for every dindu and white liberal in this country
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>>8206235
Dr. Sowell is my homeboy.
A wonderful and astute conservative that I respect.
I don't always agree with him but his books have made me challenge my worldview.
I recommend Race And Culture: A World View.

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/lit/ humor thread
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>>8204041
Whoa. I did not think a math joke could actually make me laugh.

All I ever hear are stupid ableian grape jokes and stupid equations that resolve to 69 or 8008135
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>>8205185
Oh god I hope that guy did the party again. I really need a follow up to this riveting tale
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have you read The Tunnel yet?

William H. Gass is widely considered America's foremost prose stylist because of this novel, and it's considered to be near the peak of postmodern literature.
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>>8206077
I'm halfway through, it's absolutely incredible. His prose is just heart stoppingly beautiful. Already one of my favourite books, don't listen to tamponposters /lit/
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>>8206403
post a timestamp with book
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>>8206077
>widely
maybe because of you fatties, but the rest of the literary world seems pretty indifferent
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>He wanted her ass, he wanted her gass. He ;longed for her anal effluence to flow freely over his face like fairy dust. He so desired to wrap his pink and hot and wet prick in the pergola wherein tangled her coarse arse hair and in which her stink became trapped. She had an arse full of farts that night and he fucked them out of her.

Disgusting degenerate author.
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>>8206077
Yes, and I love it, but I would probably attribute his acclaim to his earlier works, like Omensetter's Luck and In the Heart of the Heart of the Country, not his later ones.


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