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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but ideally those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

Check the wiki, the catalog, and the archive before asking for advice or recommendations, and please refrain from starting new threads for questions that can be answered by a search engine.

/lit/ is a slow board! Please take the time to read what others have written, and try to make thoughtful, well-written posts of your own. Bump replies are not necessary.

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Guide to #bookz
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Recommended Literature
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Is there any evidence that proves Nietzsche had anything to do with the Nazis? Or did the Nazis simply misunderstand Nietzsche?

Hi /lit/, I like to think you're smarter than /pol/, and I am curious who you are voting for (or would vote for) in the upcoming US election and why.
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>>8337220
It depends on how much traction Jill Stein gains over the coming months. If somehow she manages to find her way into the national debates with Hillary and Trump, her popularity and poll numbers will skyrocket, in which case I'll likely vote for her. If she gains little momentum from now until fall then I'll swallow a bitter pill and vote Hillary; but only to keep out a man who thinks climate change is a hoax, who wants to lower taxes for everyone, who has no respect for free speech and wants to open up libel laws, who will nominate a terrible justice, and who advocates for extreme forms of torture that violate international law. And that's just scratching the surface. The only thing I agree with Trump on is trade.

So Stein's my first choice, but I'll reluctantly vote Hillary if Stein's not doing well.
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I'll vote Trump because I'll have a STEM degree in a few years and want him to reform H1-b visas and lower interest on student loans. I think it is in my best interest that he wins, plus I actually do not trust Hillary. Sorry if that Isn't contrarian enough for this thread
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>>8337373
it's funny, since literally every person i've met complains that he's a racist and never mention his temperament. you're clearly saying why YOU don't want to vote for him. and that's fine. stop putting words in other people's mouths.
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>>8337346

>saying goodbye to 1st and 2nd amendment and importing millions of terrorists is "status quo"
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>>8337454
yes, the rate at which things are getting worse stays exactly the same

What's some essential feminist literature?
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>>8336845
Atwood's handmaids tale is at least on par quality size as 1984
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The Handmaiden's Tale is fucking BLAND for a dystopian novel.

Left Hand of Darkness is a decent analysis of gender wrapped in a scifi novel.

Or you could just shake off your victim complex.
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>>8337448

The Handmaid's Tale*
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>>8336845

This Sex Which is Not One, Irigaray
Gender Trouble, Butler

but if you want to learn anything from the arguments made in these or any other worthwhile feminist text, you should be incredibly familiar with the entire psychoanalytic, philosophical, and post-Hegelian-theoretical tradition (i.e., Marx and the Marxists)
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>>8337493
>worthwhile feminist text

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How's the writing career coming, /lit/?
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>>8336823
>ebook
Eww... Get a real publisher plebe
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I hate everything I write and so will everyone else
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I get paid to write essays for college students.

I get the satisfaction knowing that most professors are dupes doing it because it's a cushy job.
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I do 1 page here, then start another story, 1 page.

I'm too scared to go any further, i scare myself out of almost anything.
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I just quit my job so I could potentially write more

(I haven't written in weeks)

>I have read 10 pages in the last 10 days

The Greeks aren't going well.
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>>8337464
Ensconce yourself in your room to hasten the reading and improve your focus on the tawdry Greek literature.

They feel like mental lacerations, but you must be obdurate. This torture cannot be reprieved. Once you've absolved yourself of this punishment, people will say "wow how creditable." Your life will be blatantly be better.
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>>8337464
>ACTUALLY reading the greeks
>anotheronebitesthememe.mp3
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Does anyone here plan on offing them self at some point in the indeterminate future?

If not, why?
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I'm waiting for my parents to die so I can finally hang myself
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>>8335988
Hasn't worked... :(
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>>8336628
>would let someone die in front of him
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>>8337116
>its edgy to respect the practical imperative

Okay chief.
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What does /lit/ use to record and rate what you read? I see that Goodreads is a thing, but I can't imagine that's what most of you use.

Basically, what's /lit/'s RYM or MAL?
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>>8337457
seeing the books on my shelf reminds me of my reading experience.
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>>8337480
only acceptable answer

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>in and of itself
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>and but so
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>human qua human
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>>8336706
show don't tell :^)
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>>8336568
LOL! GOOD POST

>an horizon

checkem
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>Insofar as

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/sffg/ Based Monarch edition

>Who is the most competent leader in fantasy literature?
>And why is it Raoden?
>What's the name of the obligatory space despot of your hard SF novel you're working on?
>What are you reading right now?
>What would you recommend?

Previous thread >>8316771

Kindly use spoiler tags when appropriate to facilitate smooth discussion.
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What should I read now, the Black Company or First Law?
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>>8337148
Black Company
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>>8337148
First Law. It's redefining fantasy
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>>8337119
Tolkien is known for his world building, people imitate him a lot

Sanderson is known for his world building ... people are starting to imitate him en mass.
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Romance novels are my vice. Can you recommend any good fantasy novels where this is a central element and done well?

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Roll for your book title /lit/
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>>8336453
sure
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>>8337450
>Speaking Dawn
lame
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99 get!
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>>8337490
>sexy dawn
goddammit

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this is pretty damn funny
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>>8337238

i liked it, on a second reading currently, since its so short and dense. its 100 pages of a self-insert rambling on the fall of art centered around the invention of the player piano as a way of coping with his imminent death. i thought it was going to be a trudge, given its format, but i found it flowed surprisingly well
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>>8337226
A character in JR is actually writing agapē. Agape should be the last Gaddis you read
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Gibbs is based
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Gaddis' comedic abilities are a tad underrated, he is genuinely funny in most of his works.
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More like pretty damn boring.

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Now that the dust has settled

Is this good?
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It's okay. Mother Night is the best thing he wrote.
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It's his best by far. I love it.
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>>8337411
It was okay, only problem was that it quoted David Irving.
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>>8337411
It's good. Worth a read.

Not a masterpiece of literature, but it's good. I haven't read anything else by him though, so I can't compare.
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desu senpai I really liked it

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New critique thread. Post what you've written, are writing, have published, and critique the work of others.
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>>8337313
I don't think the idea is awful, and found myself chuckling at some of the jokes. However, I have to ask if English is your first language. Some of the wording is really awkward.
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>>8337330
>However, I have to ask if English is your first language.
No, it isn't. I think I will post it at some critique forum when it's finished to get some help for fix the awkwardness.
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>>8337313
I loved it!

I don't know what the above user is saying. I think he's crazy.

Great job. Great job.
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>>8336517
i love you.
than you so much for the detailed and thoughtful criticism. i love you so much for doing this for me. thank you anon.

i was overly apologetic because this is the first time i've ever written anything and didn't want my work to come across as pretentious so i tried to compensate for any hidden pretentiousness by being sorry for it.

but you're absolutely right everything you mentioned and i'm glad you helped out.
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>>8335978
I know I posted only a few hours ago, but I'm going to ask again for help. If the submission wasn't due Sunday, I wouldn't ask twice.

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The last Buddhism thread entered parinibbāna the moment I was about to reply to some secular Buddhist. You know who you are. Response in next post.

General Buddhism thread. Eternalists, nihilists, and Jains not welcome.
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If nothing other than suffering arises, then how do wholesome states arise?
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>>8335517
>Siderits' Buddhism as Philosophy. It removes all the religious elements, sets down the core ethical and metaphysical beliefs, and shows the logical connection between ideas.

Then you're simply not studying Buddhism. You're studying some modern system of thought tangentially related to Buddhism.

"And what is wrong view? 'There is nothing given, nothing offered, nothing sacrificed. There is no fruit or result of good or bad actions (karma). There is no this world, no next world (i.e. rebirth), no mother, no father, no spontaneously reborn beings (opapātika, i.e. divine and infernal beings); no brahmans or contemplatives who, faring rightly & practicing rightly, proclaim this world & the next after having directly known & realized it for themselves.' This is wrong view."

Majjhima Nikaya, Sutta 117

>a religion of inquiry

In your post I get the sense that you're trying to present a very rational face of Buddhism. Sure, there's the kalamas sutta but if you were an actual monk you had to accept the teachings. Doubt is one of the five hindrances. And causing a schism in the sangha is one of the ānantarika kamma that will send you to the Avīci hell for eons and eons.

Siddhartha "Foremost of the Bipeds" Gautama knew he had already perfected the Dhamma.


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>>8337420
Suffering only arises from craving of something or aversion of something. Break these two habits and you'll start to feel fucking splendid for no reason at all.


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