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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

Check the wiki, the catalog, and the archive before asking for advice or recommendations, and please refrain from starting new threads for questions that can be answered by a search engine.

/lit/ is a slow board! Please take the time to read what others have written, and try to make thoughtful, well-written posts of your own. Bump replies are not necessary.

Looking for books online? Check here:
Guide to #bookz
https://www.geocities.ws/prissy_90/Media/Texts/BookzHelp19kb.htm
Recommended Literature
https://lit.trainroll.xyz/wiki/Recommended_Reading
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Are you incapable of making decisions without the guidance of anonymous internet strangers? Open this thread for some recommendations.

(excluding Evola) Is this really the only introductory work to magic in theory written by someone who wasn't an hedon, """Academic""", hyperphilosemite or simply grifter?
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>>25417857
I don't refer to it as often as I do the one on the left (which given their relative conditions is probably obvious), but it was a great read. Next time we get a 'how magic' thread I'll pop my thoughts on the one I'm waiting for in the mail compared to the two of them in. Find out if it's a worthwhile read or not.
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>>25417852
Yeah I noticed that a lot when I read his introduction to western esotericism. The information isn't bad but it's tiresome to parse through the takes. To my mind a great academic can present the work not only accurately but fairly, instead of being snarky about the people and motivations.
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>>25417867
That's fair. I watched a video of a talk given by him and some jew once and he comes across as both smug and beige.

I always tell myself I'll take that collection of essays and poems I like, have it printed and bound in such a way that it'll survive the apocalypse and keep it on a shelf. Maybe if I ever find a way to do that I'll edit myself a copy of his book and reprint it the same way.
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>>25417643
>The stuff in this book is just made up. It isn't actually a study into historic magical practices as they actually existed.
anon did not read the book. many such cases.
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do you guys actually practice the magic in these books, or are you all just reading this stuff from an academic perspective?

How come he hasn't been memed to death online like Hegel, Deleuze or Land?
Is he not enough of a philosopher?
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>>25417304
simply because he has no utility for The System right now. if anything he's been obfuscated or displaced with the other names you've listed that are implanted to describe the curated structure of past, present, and future realities. hegel is satan and mindfucked western civilization so hard
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>>25417304
It's because he's right
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>>25417304
he kind of does. hyperreality and simulacra spread around in pop philosophy channels a lot. there were trendy documentary movies like adam curtis' stuff basically taking baudrillard and distilling it for the masses in an aestheticized way
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>>25417304
Hegel/Deleuze/Land are more wacky and abstract.
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>>25417540
Yeah OP is likely retarded.

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Verbose Edition

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>>25418100
You're right. I was trying to save face.
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>>25418065
Im esl, i just think it looks cool
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>>25418111
Right on, brother. Keep using what looks cool. Never take perscriptivism seriously.
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>>25418065
I´ll use a colon next time, no worries
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i used to have this impression tat the internet was boundless and there must be and endless supply of forums discussing all topics out there,b ut it really feels like the internet is getting smaller and smaller now

for example there is pretty much nowhere that i can find to actually discuss literature. /lit/ is dogshit for actually reading a book and posting about it looking for discussion, reddit is similarly dogshit. on wither of these sites you can make a post about a book, what you thought of it, things that stood out to you, good or bad,and try to start a discussion, and you will be lucky to get a post or two replying, and luckier still if any of those commentors have anything to say.
goodreads needs to be rebuilt from the ground up, and the app is even worse than the desktop site, and i gather that most of its users are using the app
im at the point where im looking for discussion on you tube and even that is surprisingly lacking. sometimes i read a relatively famous classic and look on outube and theres like 10 videos on it in the entire site and half of them are just ai summaries

why is the world to gay when it comes to books and reading

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Time for one of these. Post your best /lit/ memes
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>>25417993
this is actually tuff and I'm aroused.
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>>25418000

Came here to say the same thing
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>>25417986
>diet coke
everytime
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"Conflict in Literature" edition

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/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQ
RESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvC

Please limit excerpts to one post.
Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.
Discuss the written works below for practice; contribute, and you shall receive.
If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.
Expect critique, not praise.
Shitposters should be ignored and reported.

>Beginner guides on writing:

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>>25417490
Are you a straight white male? Then you have no choice but to pull an Andy Weir, i.e. self-publish a book that becomes a best-seller, then the tradpubbers will beat a path to your door.
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Hear me out, man vs. translator.
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>>25417904
>then the tradpubbers will beat a path to your door
At that point you can tell them to go fuck themselves.
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>>25418086
If Andy Weir hadn't said yes, he presumably would have never sold the movie rights to his novels, which is where the real money is.
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Gemini's summary of my main character: "an insufferable, smug author-surrogate who is always right, never truly challenged, and casually orchestrates mass state executions with the detached glee of a tech-bro optimizing a spreadsheet." Yes, and?

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Diomedis Mavortem volnerantis editio

>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·
>>25369072

>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·
https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw

>Mέγα τὸ ANE·
https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg

>Work in progress FAQ
https://rentry dot co/n8nrko

All Classical languages are welcome.
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>>25417925
abuse me not
there's enough of that
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>>25417933
in that case you aint a bitch, I respek those dubs btw
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>>25417163
I wrongly used the indicative in a subordinate clause in indirect discourse.
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>>25417750
>>25415748
You're not the only one to go through this ITT.

On an unrelated note, I have a copy of Traupman's Conversational Latin for Oral Proficiency and I'm unironically considering using it in the near future because I know chunking phrases is the main limiter on my productive ability in latin atp. Thoughts?
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>>25418042
I've never spoken Latin with anyone else, but I still like the Traupman book. I used to listen to the accompanying CD. The pronunciation/acting is not entirely great, but I still found them helpful. It looks like Bolchazy-Carducci sells it as a download now instead of a CD. Note, that it only contains selections, not the complete book.
https://www.bolchazy.com/product/conversational-latin-for-oral-proficiency-p4081/

Luke Ranieri also has recordings he made of Traupman. While his pronunciation may be better than the official recordings, I think his acting leaves something to be desired (not that the official recording is Oscar-worthy, but it certainly makes an impression), and reciting dialogues in only voice is not ideal, but it's still better than nothing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYgC_33Z9Bg&list=PLU1WuLg45SiwIqVslmhJrSc9mUGQ9OVn4

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How it feels to thoughtlessly and excessively split infinitives:
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>Dangling participle? Dangle this

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I love discovering new words. 30 years old an avid reader and I still find new english words. "putative". how did I go 30 years without seeing you my love? which of your cousins will I discover tomorrow?
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>>25417668
>lugubriously
I know this one because of the Lil Ugly Mane song "Bitch I'm Lugubrious"
https://youtube.com/watch?v=u2VKD7D__4I
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Stylometry
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>>25417545
ephorate
>one of a board of senior magistrates in any of several Dorian states, esp the five Spartan ephors, who were elected by vote of all full citizens and who wielded effective power
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>>25417545
adumbrate
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>>25417987
same. I barely listened to anything of his after mista thug isolation, but the newish volcanic bird one I've listened to like 100 times

God dammit, this book is pissing me the hell off. I want to beat the shit out of Niang, the father, Edgar, Franklin, and pretty much everybody who tormented Adeline.
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>>25416653
Yeah if you're Chinese maybe, here in the west, we don't sell our daughters off to be sex slaves in some triad sanctioned red light district.
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>>25417438
Right, they sell themselves. Actually, they do it for free!
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>>25417438
>Yeah if you're Chinese maybe, here in the west, we don't sell our daughters off
it was a worldwide historical practice, just like slavery
(which it arguably was)

>triad sanctioned red light district
nothing so dramatic
and I would question whether it's better for the sex industry to take place nominally illegally under the triads, or so legalised and out in the open that half of society participates in the process

for example, Hollywood's insistence on nudity makes it virtually a sex industry, albeit one that "only" goes as far as a strip club (broadcast worldwide)
the result is that you can count on your fingers how many major actresses haven't done nudes
and child actors such as Maisie Williams are on a public countdown in which mainstream entertainment media speculate openly when and how they will do their nude scene and for what film or series etc when they begin to approach legal age

oh, and lastly:
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>>25416640
Chinese Cinderella redpilled me when I was 10
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>>25417438
>here in the west, we don't sell our daughters off to be sex slaves in some triad sanctioned red light district.
Yeah, our daughters are trained to sell themselves

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Are visual novels on the level of real literature?
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>>25417954
none because that's some fake gay reddit shit
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>>25417712
Too bad for you that the literal only thing that can't be justified with fallacies are dogshit arguments
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Yes, but only Subarashiki Hibi ~Furenzoku Sonzai~
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if stuff like Borges, Don Quixote or House of Leaves can be considered literature or at least warrant serious consideration for their novel ideas, structures and forms I don't see why VNs can't for how they experiment with linearity, choice, sublimating content in form etc. most of it is closer to pop-lit genre fare and unfortunately the best actual prose writing is untranslated.
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I wish there was a graphic novel/comic/manga of Vineland by Pynchon :(

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Or some good books about feudal Japan you can recommend. Doesn't matter if it's fiction or non-fiction.
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>>25417874
>Sekiro's /lit/ equivalent
the greatest action-adventure novel of all time?
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>>25417874
Musashi and Taiko.
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>>25417874
you shall play nioh games instead my young padwan.
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cool action figure, your mom buy it for you
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>>25417985
slop version of Sekiro. Sekiro is for more literary/artistically-minded individuals

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The majority of my ebook covers on my Nook app have recently turned black, no cover at all and there's literally no way to fix it whatsoever.
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>>25418091
Didn't say they stopped working. They did not.
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>he doesn't use ReadEra
You're just lousy at this, bro.
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>>25418105
I do occasionally. But pirating shit is too scummy and brown-coded for my white Germanic Aryan psyche to tolerate.
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>>25418107
True Germania hordes raided and pillaged bitch ass Romans
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>>25418118
>Implying I care about what happened to boy butt fucking Romans
They deserved it.

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Eaten by the /lit/ archive langoliers edition

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recommendations):
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
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Boy, Clive Barker really shat the bed with the third Abarat book, I didn't like that at all. Looks doubtful he's going to finish the series, either. I think maybe I'll write a fix-it fic to wrap it up better. I can crank out maybe 100k words in 6 months if I really grind.
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>>25418084
The hubris of headcanon supremacy is astounding.
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>>25417840
Hey thank you. Unfortunately that book was one of the more important ones in that order so I'm going to leave it as is and hope the latter is true.
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>>25417797
>>25417844
I pray to God every single day that someone guts you alive in some filthy urban alleyway.
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>>25418108
I mean I won't say that I'm a better writer than Clive Barker but I think I can come up with something at least better plotted and paced than Absolute Midnight. And I've written 100k words in six months before, it just takes discipline.

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Male MC Edition

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>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>Advice for Noobs!

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Is there any anons entering this?
I'm interested in it, but I have a couple of questions regarding about submitting works to this. Would my shitty idea be used by them? I know ideas aren't exactly copyrighted but still.
Any downsides or should I just do this for the heck of it? I didn't enter a writing competition before. Might just do it for an exercise.
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>>25417861
One anon a while ago was asking about it a while back.
Most people here just talk about how they'll post their stories one day and don't actually write them though.

This competition seems easy enough to enter though. 80K word limit, if you do 2K chapters then that's only 40 chapters. Release them one a day and I guess you're solid.
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>>25417861
I saw the tragic hero category and think I could do something lazy enough for that.
Call it some shit like
>The Hero Seeks Revenge Against The Family Who Banished Him
Add a side of elf waifu and time travel and I think I got a solid third place.
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>>25417861
>Kadokawa
Haha yeah nah.
Waiting for Novelous results.
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>>25417505
>evil-ugly-male-character that has the personality of a cartoon villain tormenting this poor innocent girl
a classical allusion at this point, my proud beauty


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