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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but ideally those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

Check the wiki, the catalog, and the archive before asking for advice or recommendations, and please refrain from starting new threads for questions that can be answered by a search engine.

/lit/ is a slow board! Please take the time to read what others have written, and try to make thoughtful, well-written posts of your own. Bump replies are not necessary.

Looking for books online? Check here:
Guide to #bookz
Recommended Literature

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Not him, but he's right. I've said this before, and I'll say it again. /lit/ has no community. Every board calls each other assholes and fags, and posts scoffing anime girl images, but think about it. Everyone on fit wants to increase their bench, everyone on /vp/ loves pokemon, everyone on /a/ has a waifu etc, etc. /lit/ is the only board where everyone on here hates people interested in the topic. It doesn't matter what you like, someone is going to tell you to kill yourself, every. single. fucking. thead's first post, without fail is that fucking "muh diary" meme. I swear to fucking god- lit is a shithole. I hate this place. I don't want to throw tumblr memery around, but this place is fucking toxic. Fuck all of you.
probably because we've read enough stuff to know how to deal with these silly problems people come with, but the ops never listen so now we just say "fuck off faggot"
It's real. It may be overdiagnosed in your shithole nation of the USA but that does not make it a fictional condition.
>If there are no physiological factors that can't be easily reversed without medical intervention then it's not a disease
ADHD is basically a brain damage, your brain does not produce enough dopamine on it's own thus it is easily bored and distracted, as well as several other parts of the brain that deal with organization and evaluation of risks and so on are basically inactive. Amphetamines is the only viable treatment right now as it raises the dopamine levels to that of a normal brain, but it is no cure.
All of this shit shows up on a brain scain. It is an actual physical thing that you can see with your own eyes.

There's literally no such thing as ADHD

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Is Persona right in that reading books will help me become a more interesting and fleshed out person or is this just a meme to warrant the massive time investment in something as banal as "enjoyment" ??

Why do you read over partaking in other artforms?
Videogames are being refined for a couple decades now. Movies for a couple centuries.
Literature and art have been around for millennia.
It's inevitable for them to provide you with the largest amount and highest quality of substance to fill your mind with. Your chocie whether you'd rather partake in art or read books. Just remember that you actually need to read books, not just about them, just like watching art won't get you anywhere unless you partake in it yourself.
>Movies for a couple centuries
not quite
bruh dont question the flow
>something as banal as "enjoyment" ??
We got a supreme mentlegen here guys. A real enlightened euphoric.
No. It depends more on what you read and how you read rather than just reading books in general.

The modern glorification of books in general over other mediums is perpetually regurgitated by pseudointellectuals who do not actually read books at all but just want to signal intelligence. There are countless garbage books that are complete wastes of time to read, and even reading a ``good" book is pointless if you aren't reading deliberately.

If you really just want to become a "more interesting and fleshed out person" just memorize a bunch of deep-sounding quotes and spout them at random in between moments of silent brooding and apparent deep contemplation.

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Why are female writers so bland and unispired? Can women actually do ANYTHING better than men?
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sad but true
I want to read Paglia someday. Peterson memes her for some reason.
That's not saying much
Stick to dead white lesbians

normie hetero women have nothing in common with us and no understanding of our lives
Lesbians at least no what it's like to be rejected by normie women

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"We have free will, we are not all powerful, we are not all knowing, and we experience the universe
with a biological framework and consciousness. I have discovered that due to this inherent structure of our perceived existence, we
follow two distinct paths. The duality of human nature is this:

Every single human feeling, thought, or action at any level of experience or awareness can be categorized under two equally valid
but opposite reactions to the absurdity of the universe. Rejection and destruction or acceptance and building."

"Fundamental individual destructive tendencies given our free will in a meaningless existence are a lack of self-control, cowardice,
a lack of wonder, and a lack of sense of humor. Without courage, self-control, wonder and/or humor the individual and society
disintegrates. A lack of those four things leads people to wrath, depression, madness, hedonism, and ignorance. These five major
ways that destructiveness occurs greatly diminish the quality of someone's life and eventually lead to the cessation of life for
the individual and humanity."

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Shut the fuck up cuck.

write some fucking fiction or something
Because it would be interesting, that's why. Your ideas are interesting but you can't cram them down people's throats. You're either going to repel people you want to attract because it's too forceful and looks insecure, or you're going to attract people who won't in the end think for themselves. Peterson is already saying the same stuff, he's got an audience, but he's not standing on a street corner brandishing Maps of Meaning like a doomsday preacher.

I've read your book. It's interesting, there's nothing wrong with it. You have lots of interesting things to say and clearly you believe in them too. That's great. It's all great.

But you can't just keep whacking /lit/ in the face with a paddle and expect to get anything other than shitposts. Write a screenplay, some fiction, start a blog, whatever. Put up a reading list, I don't know.

I'm saying this because I think you have good intentions and your conclusions aren't even remotely crazy. Just that spamming the book is going to reduce interest.

But what the fuck do I know, icycalm takes his personality to unimaginable places and /lit/ has a love-hate relationship with him too. So whatever.

Anyways good luck, I guess. Hope you crack the self-help market someday.
It may well just be 100 posts guy using a new persona.

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>last 5 books you read
>other anons r8
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Goethe's Faust
Ovid's Metamorphoses
Virgil's Aeneid
Paradife Loft
King Jame's Bible
why use the long s on Paradise Lost but not on Faust
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Here's a good guy
Thanks senpai
not bait, 2 year old son. he's the greatest thing to ever happen to me, but reading, rock climbing and video games have all pretty much taken a break from my life.

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What does /lit/ study?
me mathematics
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did Computer Science and English. both were compromises since I would have prefered something like film or theater but at least I got to take shakespeare and drama classes kinda sorta.

inb4 this thread turns into wanking over how expensive and well ranked your pieces of paper were
Economcs + Philosophy double major. I've only met two other people with this combo. I graduated four years ago and now I'm a WageCuck™.
Physical therapy and Medicine. I just do postgraduate studies now, paid by the United States goverment.
Math. I dropped college at some point. Then got a philosophy degree. Now I'm 25 and back to math, but taking basic courses (I only took topology this semester)
Chemical Engineering.
Gonan take a break next semester and go explore.
I am scared I will become like many others who never return but I can't take this inusfferable climate anymore.

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Gormenghast Edition


Science Fiction

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I felt exactly the same about the trilogy, but the books around it Asimov wrote later were much better and enjoyable.
Getting noticed by serious publications is not the same as writing a serious publication, can you not tell the difference?
Any publication that "notices" YA is not a serious publication.
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Hey guys I'd like some recs.

I'm in the mood for a fantasy series...something that's really just fuckin weird without being uncomfortably/twistedly so. Maybe the right word is wonderful?

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What are your top 3 favorite books of all time?
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i love lots of books and my top ten is constantly changing, but my top three always remains the same:

italo calvino - invisible cities
virginia woolf - the waves
kazuo ishiguro - the unconsoled

in no particular order
Invisible Cities is so good. Gr8 taste m8.

>100 Years of Solitude
>Pale Fire
>Henderson the Rain King
Ayyee based PF

>Pale Fire
>Absalom, Absalom!
>The Crying of Lot 49
> The Gay Science
> Heliodorus's Aethiopica
> Strange Stories from a Chinese Studio

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Why are you pretending to understand primary texts without using secondary sources to explicate ideas? Even Avicenna used them.

>"...As a teenager, [Avicenna] was greatly troubled by the Metaphysics of Aristotle, which he could not understand until he read al-Farabi's commentary on the work. For the next year and a half, he studied philosophy, in which he encountered greater obstacles. In such moments of baffled inquiry, he would leave his books, perform the requisite ablutions, then go to the mosque, and continue in prayer till light broke on his difficulties. Deep into the night, he would continue his studies, and even in his dreams problems would pursue him and work out their solution. Forty times, it is said, he read through the Metaphysics of Aristotle, till the words were imprinted on his memory; but their meaning was hopelessly obscure, until one day they found illumination, from the little commentary by Farabi, which he bought at a bookstall for the small sum of three dirhams. So great was his joy at the discovery, made with the help of a work from which he had expected only mystery, that he hastened to return thanks to God, and bestowed alms upon the poor..."
Extensive use of secondary sources here desu. I think /lit/ is critical on second sources ONLY vs actually reading the primary.
Also remember there are many Amerifats and former Protestants here, so they fetishize primary texts and their own interpretation
>not being smart enough to unpack texts on your own

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Are there any good podcasts or lectures about writing/literature that I can listen to while I'm trying to sleep? I'm running out of Blattman episodes.
Try The Teaching Company, they have some interesting stuff usually. It's all on piratebay under whatever name they were using at the time.
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The invisible college on bbc radio iplayer.

around 20 x 10 minute episodes about creative writing, delving into decades of bbc radio archive interviews with various esteemed authors.....pretty good

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can somebody explain what is cultural marxism?
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Jokes on you, I was only pretending to be retarded.

Trolled all of you guys good.
>156 / 25 / 27 / 1
...all 2 of you.
>poverty is the natural condition retard.
Wealth is a product of generations, inherited by the next.
To be born poor is to not have parents.
most millionaires are first generations though.
bill gates, carlos slim are first generations millionaires.
literally nothing

Unironically /thread

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What are some books with snarky smartass protagonists who believe they're better than everyone else?
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My life
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Enchiridian. Fucking Stoics think they're better than everyone.
The Jason chapter

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>never worked
>drunk most of the time

Is Guy Debord the absolute madman?
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What would core tenets have to do with it?
>you don't know bro but I do
>debord dindu nuffin he didn't coopt the class struggle for his flagging career as a public intellectual

The Paris riots of '68 were NOTHING without the wildcat strikes of the factory workers. SI was the Proto-OWS.
What is "situationism"?

You're so intelligent I can't understand your post.

Why bother with these rhetorical games? Situationism, e.g. the ethos of the situationist international as expressed in their texts and actions can be succinctly described as lifestyle anarchism. And the writing is fucking boring. I'd rather read a Crimethinc poster.

>Situationism exists as a word but refers to nothing
How spooky
So anti-academic he wrote books and composed art films for a living.

Poor Cliff cant take a Pynch
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He's dumber and more grating (and less pleasing to look at) than Ontologicool yet /lit/ shills for him why? Is /lit/ scared of grills?

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