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>read introduction
>plot is spoiled
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>>11050763
Way too many introductions pull this shit. A couple weeks back I read the Penguin Horror edition of The Haunting of Hill House and the introductions spoiled everything.
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Protip: read the introduction afterwards
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>>11050763
>>11050771
Introductions are guaranteed to spoil the work. I've never encountered an introduction that didn't. Just read it after you're done and treat it as an analysis.
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>>11050763
Just unread it bro

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>tfw been waiting a book for some time
>tfw it arrives on the mail
>feel the package
>open it
>mfw

ah isnt life great? the only thing that is better is reading it under a trees shadow in a sunny day.
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>>11051460
yes they do faggot

t. other country
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>>11051488
I can't speak for every country, but Canadian Amazon at least does not.
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>>11051324
Kek
But
>Chicago and not APA6
Come on
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>>11051499
Canada isn't actually a country I think. But I'm not an expert on that subject.
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>>11051239
>>Tfw finish a book and put it on your bookshelf

tfw finish a book and take it to the publishers.

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DUDE DRUGS AND GAY SEX LMAO
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>>11051113


Though he was influenced by the works of Nietzsche, Camus didn't believe that life was meaningless. Rather, he was only concerned with what he knew and the consequences of what he knew, and he knew not whether life had a meaning or not. He felt that believing life had some meaning required philosophical suicide, which he was opposed to because it betrayed the maximum human experience available. And he didn't conclude that life was meaningless for similar reasons. Camus wanted to know if we could exist in the deserts between the known and unknown.
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>>11049635
my nigga
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>>11049240
"sure is hard work fucking all these teenage muslim boys, but i don't want anyone to suspect i might be hetero."
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>>11049526
"allows"? the kid was self destructive. if anything, WSB should have left him in that ditch he collapsed in AFTER getting a kidney transplant and then ditching the post-op medication.
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>>11051103
if you can find it, you should look up the six months long shit-fight in the Times Literary Supplement after a reviewer panned Naked Lunch with a review called "ugh". he casually dismissed it as "filth" also.

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How do I tell if someone praising my writing really means it? I can't shake the sensation that any positive praise I get is just from people trying to not to hurt my feelings. One of my professors keeps telling me that my writing is "outstanding" and I can't fathom why.
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>>11051631
Ask for constructive criticism. If they have nothing to point out, your not benefiting from their instruction, it’s just an economic chamber.

As an artist you have to find people with good taste who can look at your stuff and tell ou why it’s not as good as it could be.
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>>11051918
*you’re and *echo

My bad
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>>11051631

Ask someone who has no reason to lie to you...say, submit it to someone anonymously asking for feedback.

Goys give me the Shaman or Islam pill. I would before the former since my finnish ancestors were not christian but islam is okay too because it is a very masculine religion unlike christianity which has cuckold values.
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>>11047615
Its me again. Dude, I arrieved at home is 23:35 of a monday. I will get some sleep and tomorrow I swear I will give a proper response.
Salafi anon, stay tuned man.
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>>11049700
Currently living there. Feels good man. Wanna come?
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>>11049717
Tip top kek
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>>11041736
Way too much shia material in this chart. Sunni Literature is much more valuable if your interested in Sufiism as most Sufi Saints were hardcore Sunni Jurists. Also Sunni Islam is much more accesible for converts or people interested in Islam. There is historically more literature and more resources in the modern world. Also Sunni Islam is a lot more personal then Shia Islam where having an imam that you follow is almost required.

Also Malcolm X's "Letters from Mecca" is a very good book that shows the natural progression from nonbeliever to believer.
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>>11050793
He'll never suceed. He is hated by most Muslims. His only following is people that hate Muslims.

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How did he smell?
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>>11048702
He was a pretty heavy cigarette smoker back when smoking cigarettes was seen as "effete", he was also a bit of a clotheshorse and very conscientious about his state of dress, so I'm guessing he smelt like a mixture of fire cured Oriental tobacco smoke and the sort of lavender and musk cologne that was popular back then amongst gentlemen.

Wait, was I not supposed to take this question seriously?
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>>11048754
And any Turks within that radius just dropped dead.
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Wouldn’t all of these fags, including the rich courtesses, have smelled like shit - to our aromic sensitivities, at least
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>>11051809
Probably not, people throughout the ages liked to be clean
Although they would smell strange because of the different food they ate, but that's not different to any foreigner
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>>11048702
of incese

What are some real gems out there as far as comprehensive texts are concerned when it comes to Mythologies? In particular, Greek, Egyptiaan, and Norse.

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Best Western novels? I've read Blood Meridian, but that's pretty much it.
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>>11051879
These two and Lonesome Dove are the other famous ones besides BM.
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The Virginian
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>>11051883
Don't read lonesome Dove. it's misogynistic trash and we've evolved past that
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>>11051911
not today fag
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>>11051911
I realize this is a meme but why did they pick to criticize lonesome dove and not blood meridian with it’s dead baby trees and child sex slaves?

Hey guys can we start a critique thread? I really like writing but im not sure how bad i am

https://pastebin.com/pJXDMa1E
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>>11050331
Don't even try to refine "the first piece you ever wrote." You have to burn a lot of drafts before arriving at anything readable
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>>11051051
Those tigers were grossly overfed and restrained from exercise
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>>11051646
Keked. Too real, my main monkey
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>>11050541
Lacks structure, heart. But only in the beginning. Lots of dry farts, collegecool glimmers. The economic use of language suggests eunuch, the sweetsongsingers of anon and bygone. Harmless, sad. Witch's-tit strikes a sunclock shadow of turpitude.

>>11051677
meh.

>>11051755
?
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A ladder plunged us into a tunnel which led to the secret catacombs. We groped through the narrow passageways half-paralyzed like blind cave fish. Soon the ground softened into damp, dead earth and we were there. Skulls glowered everywhere in cavities. To the left a skeleton lay exposed in a tomb like a cipher, reeking of meaning. I gazed through its socketed helmet until looking through meant looking back into the self that fear has prevented me from becoming. I found it difficult to swallow. I wondered if they were a drinker like my mother.

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Search your heart, /lit/. You know this to be true.
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You people do know that Post Modern Literary Fiction is a genre right...
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>muh genre
what exactly is the distinction between genre fic and, well, not genre? where is the line drawn??
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>>11050441
being well written
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>>11050441
When people say genre fiction they mean fiction that can easily be placed in a genre because it adheres to well tread tropes of genres like Sci-fi, Fantasy, detective, western, horror, etc. Of course if you try hard enough you can fit anything into a genre.
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>>11051401
thanks anon

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Pick one, let the others die alonng with all their work.
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>>11051482
None of those views/opinions makes you a philistine.
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>>11051482
>philip roth isn't the best american novelist of the second half of the twenty century.
that's not wrong
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>>11051464
>They had too many fantasies. Right. But they were our fantasies, weren't they ultimately? The whole assortment. Our leaders simply lived them out. Our elected representatives. It's fitting, then, no more than fitting, and we were stone blind not to guess it. All we had to do was know our own dreams.

>The supermarket shelves have been rearranged. It happened one day without warning. There is agitation and panic in the aisles, dismay in the faces of older shoppers.[…]They scrutinize the small print on packages, wary of a second level of betrayal. The men scan for stamped dates, the women for ingredients. Many have trouble making out the words. Smeared print, ghost images. In the altered shelves, the ambient roar, in the plain and heartless fact of their decline, they try to work their way through confusion. But in the end it doesn’t matter what they see or think they see. The terminals are equipped with holographic scanners, which decode the binary secret of every item, infallibly. This is the language of waves and radiation, or how the dead speak to the living. And this is where we wait together, regardless of our age, our carts stocked with brightly colored goods. A slowly moving line, satisfying, giving us time to glance at the tabloids in the racks. Everything we need that is not food or love is here in the tabloid racks. The tales of the supernatural and the extraterrestrial. The miracle vitamins, the cures for cancer, the remedies for obesity. The cults of the famous and the dead.
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>>11049841

McElroy is the best of all of them.
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>>11049907
Great.

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what are the best cookbooks /lit/?
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>>11051805
It's by far my favorite of the bunch, a travelogue of an American visiting France just after WWII. Chamberlain visits a lot of scenic spots and tiny hotels and cafes, and sometimes the local cook shares their recipe. Those are reprinted in the book. It's legit, highly recommended for anyone who loves cooking regular food and not molecular gastronomy bullshit. Pic is a random sampling of pages.
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A must read even if you consider yourself an amateur.

You don't need to do sous vide or anything fancy from this book, but the techniques and concepts will prove invaluable in many different areas.
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It kind of goes without saying a lot of those places don't exist anymore, but just like when reading Pausanias the goal is to be transported.
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>>11051841
You're a fag
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>>11051844
Read the book.

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What the fuck is missing from the Greek-German tradition of Western philosophy that causes it to keep relapsing into oriental, self-negating mysticism? Is it something that the Christians and medievals discovered, but we have lost and forgotten? Or something that we have not yet accomplished?

I just spent five years of my life reading my way through the Western tradition aside from the medievals, mainly focusing on the Greeks, Germans, and French, with plenty of esotericism and traditionalism thrown in. And it's the same piece of shit Parmenidean/Neoplatonic emanationist metaphysics at the heart of one of them. "Blah blah blah the empirical self is only an illusion, a Schein or phainomenon. Blah blah blah, the true, real 'Self' is the One, the Will, the inexhaustible Abyss or Grund, etc., etc., etc. Let me say this again in fifty thousand different fucking ways now!"

What is with this obsession with self-negating realisations of primordial oneness? It was interesting the first time, but so was Thales saying "uhh it's all probably water at base, haha," and we didn't spend 3000 years writing and re-writing philosophies of "It's All Really Water At The End of the Day."

How do I escape this barbaric, oriental trap? What philosophers had roles for subjectivity, freedom, and intentionality to play in their philosophies that didn't amount to "mere appearance" of some pointless grounding unity?
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>>11051815
>all the smart people came to the same correct conclusion and it doesn’t agree with my materialistic egoism!!!! Someone help me justify my compulsive compensatory behavior because I’m not strong enough to meditate!!
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>>11051853
Kek fpbp.

>>11051815
Read Jung, learn about individuation. Now look at reconciliation with the divine (at-one-ment) again.

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What's the preferred translation of The Iliad? I've heard good things about Robert Fagles and Alexander Pope but I'm not sure which would be the better option for someone who has never read it before.
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>>11051850
Mine is from Richmond Lattimore
I found it to be extremely competent
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>>11051859
fpbp and /thread

Fitzgerald is good too. Fagles is prose and for children. Don't bother with Pope.
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>>11051850
pope.

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Was Searle's chinese room the most unethical thot experiment in philosophy?
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>>11051601
I wonder how high up you have to get in academia before you're allowed to develop the concept of biological naturalism and still be allowed to teach anyone
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>>11050784
based horny poster
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>What happens in the Chinese Room stays in the Chinese Room

Guess his theory didn't hold up.
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>humanities dominated by adherents of postmodern neomarxism and far left ideologues
>affirmative action, so no positions
>vastly more phds than permanent positions
>low pay
>no more student poon #poundmetoo

Why even bother with academia at this point, tbqh?
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>>11051799
L-love of knowledge...?



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