"The Death of /wg/" EditionPrevious: >>25059976/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQRESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvCPlease limit excerpts to one post.Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.Discuss the written works below for practice; contribute, and you shall receive.If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.Shitposters should be ignored and reported.Beginner guides on writing:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHdzv1NfZRMComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
https://pastebin.com/2yAu1DW6got around to writing some morethe first scene with an extended amount of dialogue, I'm not sure how well it all flows though, especially the first paragraph feels rough
Could I ask for feedback on a piece of fanfiction I am writing?Throughout highschool and college I scraped through any class that involved writing. The fact that I didn't like reading back then didn't help either. But over the past year, I've fallen in love with fanfiction, and it led me to start learning how to write.I can look back to where I started and see that I've improved. But at this point, I think I need actual feedback and constructive criticism.
>>25090271>“‘Uncle Grey’?” chimed in Appius. “I didn’t know you had any children, Grey.”Do you not know what an uncle is? Appius could remark “I thought you were an only child.” I struggled to stick with it through the first paragraph but I’ll say it ended better than how it started. It’s a perfectly fine first draft, but when you revise you need to ask yourself “what’s the point?” Your first paragrph’s point seems to be establishing your main character is an autistic faggot who suffers a panic attack by being in a crowd. A crowd which you go to great lengths to describe before really introducing the reader to the autistic faggot. This leaves me with no real interest in him since the story isn’t interested in him. I would advise flipping the focus. Don’t start with the crowd. Start with him and his mission (need to meet military contact). Give me some sense of how he feels about this (excited to have a big job? curious why the military picked him? Fearful he’s not a military man. Frustrated they gave him retardedly vague instructions of who to meet and where? That doesn’t seem military like.) Instead autistic faggot just drifts from his panic attack into a conversation with a stranger under the moronic assumption that the first stranger he meets must be the military contact? And also he’s a very pretty young man. I assume this is leading to porn. If not, radically reconsider this opening.
>>25090097Take it as the advice from a guy who wrote 100+ books you autistic spaz!
>>25090352oh god your right, sorry I definitely meant only childand the scene is part of an ongoing story, the scene prior was a boat trip with a lot of his introspection so I thought a nice bit of external focus to give an idea of the new setting would be good before returning to the characterand it's part of the intro to a romance story, so I think the focus is appropriatethanks for the catch about what Uncle means lol, easy brain fart
No stack, haul, or shelf thread???
>>25089923Implying what, and what is DDT
fuck off new guy, we're full.
>>25090252>dead board >fullThere's hardly any activity around here, and half of you don't even read.
Do you think Nietzsche would've approved his admirers bursting into tears at the thought of someone rejecting him?
they're called exclusive VIP clubs for a reason, new guy. now go back.
Itinerary & Rules:• 10:00 AM GMT, Friday, February 6th — I will post the character and theme requirements below; /lwc/ February 2026 begins.Before the submission deadline, please1. Incorporate the character and theme (creative interpretation allowed) into a piece of writing.2. Format and publish your submission on rentry.co3. Open a reply window to this thread, then type a unique tripcode (Name + "#" + Password) into the Name-field.4. Using that unique tripcode, post your submission as a rentry link in this thread.• 11:59 PM GMT, Monday, February 9th — Submission deadline; voting begins.Note: After the submission deadline, do NOT edit your writing on rentry.Before voting ends, pleaseComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25070290>abstursenew woedObtuserefers to a person who is slow to understand (stupid/insensitive) or an angle greater than 90 degrees, while abstruse describes concepts or texts that are difficult to comprehend or obscure. Obtuse implies a "blunt" intellect, whereas abstruse means "hidden" or complex. They are frequently confused, but "abstruse" is for abstract ideas, and "obtuse" is for people.
CVDrive !!vnnm14RJF0o — “The sun loomed through the trees…”>>25071634>Our family had many breeze-filled picnics at its shelter houses…that was before we fell apart.It seems the MC and their partner are on the precipice of starting a family themselves—“I can’t wait, baby”—so I wonder if this encounter will cause the new one to eventually fall apart too.I’m not saying these fiery deer-people (deerple?) are to blame for the dissolution of the MC’s original family, but a similar caliber of unholy-truth definitely is.Maybe it was the disquietude of walking in on a family member doing something they’re not supposed to?I’m sure many cheating moms and dads rationalize their extra-marital affairs through the logic that being unfaithful is what’s actually keeping their families together.Guessing it’s the MC’s mom, with how you had the doe-woman trying to console the MC, but that’s just my interpretation.>and walked in lockstep—unified in their gait,Both sides of your em-dash say the same thing.You should always be building on what you write, so: “and walked in lockstep—as if one creature,”>“Go to the car…I’m gonna find out what it is.”>I grabbed a baseball bat from the trunkKinda silly to tell her to go to the car, when the MC’s going there too—just say: “We’re going to the car!”Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
CVDrive !!vnnm14RJF0o — “The sun loomed through the trees…”>>25071634>>25089617 [cont.]Reminds me of Shyamalan’s “Knock at the Cabin”—the whole “trust us, we’re doing this to save the world” thing—but this isn’t anywhere near as teamworky.>“What happened?”>I didn’t answer.Yeah, it’s hard for the MC to be a part of something (the ritual) when they’re not invited; but it’s even harder when they themselves are’t inviting their own partner.Our actions may never be understood, but they definitely won’t be understood if we never try to explain them—that goes for the deerple killing themselves and the MC shutting out their partner. Good moral, but I doubt it’s there intentionally.“Data breach” and “Lake Vesuvius” (paired with the volcano-laden “Hawaii”) did a great job of portending some cataclysm near the beginning.I’m guessing that all the best prophets had all their best revelations out in the wilderness, so you were already halfway there—the revelation itself just needed to be scarier than suppertime; think “vision,” not “venison.” Still fun to read.
>>25088120Happy belated Valentine’s Day, Heng. It’s nice to hear from you again, and thanks for reading.Have you written anything recently you’d like to share?>>25089315>I don't think some of these submissions should have qualified. Featuring a team isn't the same thing as having a theme of teamwork.I’m not going to be a bouncer when it comes to the content of submissions—the voting process will sort that out.Honestly some of my favorite stories are the ones that *seemingly* elide the requirements, because they force insane and creative interpretations.Who can say for sure “The Wonderful Wizard of Oz” isn’t economic allegory?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_interpretations_of_The_Wonderful_Wizard_of_Oz
paráklētos !!2RXoRXOGMA2 —A Bird Up On The Town>>2507588014 lines; ABABCDCDEFEF*GG rhymes; 10 syllables, 10 syllables, 10 syllables, then all over the place; “bird,” “birds,” “bird,” “bird,” “bird,” “birds,” “birds,” “bird,” “bird-wandering,” “bird.”Poking through Wikipedia, I think this (“Shakespearean measure”) was what you were going for:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonnet#Tudor_and_Stuart_periodBut your iambs fell apart at line 4.The metrical/structural purity has to be 99.9…% or higher to get these things off the ground, but if you’ve done it well once (e.g. your first few lines) all you need to do is repeat.I dig some of your language very much—“Nothing does follow short upon the day”—but the “bird”-pocalypse majorly detracts from it.Whether you use metonymy or metaphor or compounds, call birds other things—“beaks,” “wishes,” “song-makers.”By the way, fashioning such a back-in-time stanza, you’re allowed to do things with your words you otherwise wouldn’t.I’m talking about the asterix I wrote above on the F…F* rhyme—“sought” / “forgotten.”The word you wished you could have used here is “forgot,” but it was actually fair play:>forgot: archaic…past participle of forgot [i.e. “forgotten”] —WiktionarySo embrace the oldy-timey-ness of your poetic voice! It might just do you a favor metrically every now and then.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Must a man have his heart broken at least once to write a great work of literature?
>25089711>I concede
>>25090066>This will definitely be the dawn of my enlightenment right????????you're too busy writing diary entries online, so no, probably not
>>25090125Oh, I legit thought this thread was about Tao Lin. I never read any of his stuff but the chinamen all look the same to me.
>>25090125Since when is nearly a decade not a long time you daft cunt?
>>25090125The part is causing meltdowns is that he stayed with her trough her cancer and its ""alleged"" she broke up with him mainly to "try out" other men.
Why is philosophy needed in the current day when science allows us to behold the universe in such beautiful detail as picrel? Why doesn't philosophy take from math, as it is the fundamental way to understand physical phenomenon?
>>25090268He doesn’t know that most theoretical physicists are implicitly or explicitly Platonists. Phil. of science, particularly of physics, has had a revival of seeing the field under Platonist lenses. Mathematical Platonism is probably the only robust philosophy of math.
>>25090282>Mathematical Platonism is probably the only robust philosophy of math.What is one divided by infinity? Is it an infinitesimal? Is it zero? Or is undefined?Trick question. The answer: whichever is most convenient for the maths you're working with, as any mathematician will tell you
>>25090296>still didn’t critique Platonismyes, there are questions in math. Yes, there are different ways of arranging ideas in math to come up with different answers to the same question.
>>25089504Neither does philosophy.
Based OP. Mathematics > Physics > Chemistry > Biology > Psychology > Sociology >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Philosophy. Math reigns above all.
i like thinking about reading books but i dont like actually reading them
Read funner books
>>25089532The same applies to people who have a massive backlog of games to play or movies/anime to watch, they enjoy the idea of doing something and pertaking in some popular activity more than actually putting in the required time and effort.This is also common if you pirate your books, you have no attachment to your massive 1TB "books" folder, hence why you should start purchasing books as well as drop the infinite lists with recommended titles. Just find your own path and taste.Reading itself is the easiest thing in the world, I'm on track to finish my 5th book of this year.
>i don't like reading books i like having read them
Reading is mostly thinking prompted by letters
>>25089969What are fun books?
Where do I start with him ?
>>25088505One of his books I guess.
>>25088521Oh, thanks, good idea ! Which one ?
>>25088543You could go chronological and read his first published, by size, getting the shortest read out of the way, or by some sort of acclaim. Critical or audience favorite like. "The Big Sleep" being most popular I think.
>>25088505The Big Sleep or my personal favorite Farewell, My Lovely. But you should really read the Marlowe novels in order of release.
>>25088543In chronological order nigger, what else
Is it true?Was she here?What did she read?
what ? why would she be here ? how do you know that ? charlotte would you fuck a fat ugly poor black dude ?
>>25090357Some anon mentioned it.
College is the modern caste system. If you go to a top tier college you'll have an unbeatable network, better marriage opportunities, more career success and access to better jobs, and more money. You'll be plugged in to cultural creation networks.If you go to a lower tier college then people will forever see you as less intelligent and you'll do worse in all factors.
I got accepted to a much better school but ended up going to a lesser one that almost gave me a free ride. I sometimes wonder how different my life would have been if I went to the better school. But I ended up okay, so I don't wonder too much about it.
>>25090274Its also the most backwards institution in any given country still stuck in medieval times with sons/daughters of professors just inheriting their positions and the interpolitics of it all is worse then even on the worst medieval ottoman court.That being said if you have a chance to teach a semestar as a assistant its fun and useful to have in your bio but plese run away from there into the private sector or more cozy public if you are lucky.
>>25090274Prestigious undergraduate degrees are a meme, it's better to get a 4.0 from your local school so that your stats are better for grad/professional school.
>>25090326>it's better to get a 4.0 from your local school so that your stats are better for grad/professional school.Research experience and letters of recommendation matter too
>>25090274You can still fail and be a loser if you go to a good university. Even with good grades you can be a total loser after graduating if you didn't do any of the other things you mentioned. God, life is so fucking tiring.
Ive been a NEET for 3 years already because of a depression. My family is supporting me till i find a job.I need books to help me learn how to talk to people again, how to be social again. Pref literature but could be any book really. Heard Austen is good for this. I dont wanna find a job just to be an autist in there.Thanks anons, youre my only frens.
>>25088773>I dont wanna find a job just to be an autist in there.The longer you wait the bigger a social rift will be between your coworkers and your working body creating a permanent autistic scarring that everyone will look at and see right away, inaccessible to the artificial skills of conversation denoting truth of being different and rejected by your social betters, a permanent scarlet 'A' grafted on your face that stands for Autistic. Right now you could play it off like you were studying in those three years and people will just treat you like three years junior with a little weirdness to her, but if you keep waiting you will become permanently unrelatable to them. Don't worry about the shit games people play, you are going to a job to collect some money so you won't die. The best way to level up your social skills is to get out there and confront these people for the gaslighting and caste system they are conspiring to build.
>>25088957>go fuck up socially by getting a job that makes you talk to people a little bit. Yes you'll fuck up and maybe even get fired but who cares, it's just exp pointsBest advice I've seen on the /lit/ board in several years, especially the last part. Can confirm that it works
>>25090051workplaces should be held accountable for that.
>>25089890Finally
Join the army and read Shakespeare.
is le start with the greeks really the right answer?>Plato and Aristotle bore me to death>Stoics are pretty lame and mono thematic>Sceptics are too smuge for me to find any value>Epicureanism is just twist on stoicism or the other way around maybe?>Pre-socratics seemed funny but there are mostly few secondary sources left which sucks please any good and interesting reads to get a grip of this whole philosophy thing?
>>25090064Honestly, just read what strikes your fancy. Figure out the claim being made and it's justifications. It's a web
>>25090064https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_wopcEyf7iz2m8Z-SnggSrC4MTZ7NAY_
>>25090064>Heidegger is probably the best place for anyone new to philosophy to start.His work, Being and Time, is widely considered a foundational and all around good introduction to the basics of philosophy.
>>25090064you probably enjoy slop. Philosophy is the last bastion for men with intellect that hasn't been poisoned by women.
>>25090212Yeah seconded. Plus Richardson has a good introduction (Routledge) to Heidegger. Anyway I wish I'd read Being and Time earlier, before poisoning my brain with the French. That said, the French are a necessary poison. Start with Montaigne. Alternatively, start with the Chinese. Ziporyn's Zhuangzi is interesting in large part because his and Georg-Moeller's work comes from a European background, so there's a way to move between the two and come to grips with basic (occidental) philosophy. The former has an interesting article called "How the Hegel of 1802 almost became a Chinese philosopher." If starting with the Greeks go to whats his face's account of their lives. Diogenes of Sinope I think. Of course the best advice is to troll wikipedia until you find someone dealing with a subject matter that intrigues you, then bury yourself in their work.
>I ALLOW MELKOR TO DO CRIMES FOR THE GREATER GOOD >I ALLOW GOLLUN TO EAT HUMA BABIES >HUMANS WANT IMMORTALITY?! TIME TO NUKE NÚMENOR!! Tolkien's Absolute Good.
>>25089785YUJIRO HANMA HEIKA BANZAI!
>>25087492>the world is moving towards absolute goodIt's possible. Think of the cosmic evolution; from a singularity to the multitude, from waves to particles and chemical compounds, and their evolution towards biological life, it's perspectives and changes... There is a spirit to all things. Each phase has seemingly added something. >abrahamicsStuck in attachments; regardless of what the next evolution is, they will be gone. Though religions have also evolved in the past.
“The Lord of the Rings is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision.”
What Ilúvatar tried to tell us when he allowed Jackson to portray the books on the big screen?
>If there is any good out there, save me, save my family from Morgoth's curse>WILL YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY, I'M TRYING TO MAKE MUSIC HERE, TAKE YOUR COMPLAINTS TO THE VALAR
Ἀχαιῶν δερκόμεν' ὄσσε edition>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·>>25006897>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw>Mέγα τὸ ANE·https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg>Work in progress FAQhttps://rentry dot co/n8nrkoAll Classical languages are welcome.
>>25064869they see me rollingthey hate melet's see what I got!
>>25075723>Hate Ovid.istuc tibi sit.
cl. In tali ludo facile discimus loqui. Sonasne probe sermonem Gallicum? ba. Imo et Latinum sono Gallice. cl. Numquam igitur scribes bona carmina. ba. Cur ita? cl. Quia periit tibi syllabarum quantitas. ba. Mihi satis est qualitas. cl. Quid? estne Lutetia immunis a pestilentia?GALLINIGRI VERBERATI MERDAM FORAS
>>25064706Καλός
Is there any text that talks about Athena having a shield? Does both her shiled and the Aegis feature the gorgon (?)
A group wherein we learn a language through a great text, or multiple great texts, mostly verse. Cast your vote for a language you would be willing to learn. Voting ends in a week, then study begins. Obviously plenty of materials will be supplied. If you want opt for a other text lmk. You can also vote for a language that isn't listedGreek through HomerLatin through VergilHebrew. The BibleArabic, the Quran.Italian through DanteSpanish through Lorca, Neruda and MachadoGerman through Goethe and RilkeComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25089044>Italian through DanteWhile it can be great to know where the Italian language comes from (Dante is considered to be "the father of Italian"), it is very different from today's Italian (the Divine Comedy is 700+ years old, after all). I'd recommend to use a more recent author, like Foscolo, Manzoni, Garibaldi (Memorie), Verga etc. alongside Dante.This is my opinion as an Italian native speaker.
>>25090132Good luck getting /lit/ to be more interested in reading Garibaldi than Dante
>>25090144I think Dante is a better author than Garibaldi too, but if you talk and write in 1300s "Italiano volgare" nobody in Italy will understand you (in fact, Italian students use notes and translations when they first study the Divine Comedy). Garibaldi writes in a modern Italian that can be understood by today's italians without notes. Reading Dante (or Boccaccio) to learn today's italian can be useful for abstracting some grammar rules and understanding why some rules exist today, but using it as a first source I don't think is a good idea.
>>25090195Realistically though do you think this particular board, if given the choice, would be more interested in being able to speak vernacular Italian, or being able to read Dante, Petrarch and Bocaccio?
>>25090207You're right. Then Dante, Petrarca, Boccaccio, Cecco Angiolieri, Bembo ("Prose nelle quali si ragiona della volgar lingua"), Tasso, Ariosto are all great readings. Machiavelli too.
>High fantasyAny fantasy story that takes place in a secondary world in which real-world geography and/or history have no consequence. "Magicalness" is not quantifiable and irrelevant to whether or not it's high fantasy. >Low fantasyAny fantasy story that takes place in the world as we know it at any established point in history. >Dark fantasyHorror stories with fantasy elements. Can be high or low, but the most iconic dark fantasy stories are low fantasy. Stories about vampires, mummies, and other living dead, curses, witchcraft, and macabre folklore. Simple as.
>>25090171Don't make up your own definitions.
>>25090237I didn't. These have been the long-established literary definitions of fantasy. They only got muddied and "vibe-based" when visual media got involved.
