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Does the Bhagavad Gita condone or detest violence?
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>>11363065
it's chinaman bullshit, why would it be any good
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>>11363059

Maybe its better to say instead that violence is only necessary to stop violence, and is not in all instances necessary. You can't very well reason with someone who is attacking you and trying to kill you, or someone else. There might be certain cases where you could nonviolently prevent or stop violence, but sometimes, you have to engage in it, for the purpose of stopping it.

And, it would be foolish to allow greater harm to be done by someone who was violent just because you are against violence as a concept, when if only you had the guts to stand up to it. This brings to some modern folk who think they would be heroic in a violent situation to just let themselves and their loved ones be killed instead of using violence to save as many people as possible
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>>11363072
t. Triggered pajeet
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>>11362994
Maybe because I didn’t express any of my opinions or beliefs you fucking brainlet. I was merely helping OP understand that the western mindset prevents us from understanding the doctrines, which is what guenon was trying to do with in that book, at no point does he tell you what to believe or what opinion to have. Maybe you should read it again, slower this time.
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>>11363104
you can't be sure he didn't read it. in fact, you can be sure that most people in lit don't actually read. they are just here to make themselves feel better about themselves because part of them thinks taking on being a book-reader as part of their identity will make them feel better about themselves. but then they see people talking about real, relevant ideas and it's makes them furious because all they really care about is masturbating to anime. so, they have to attack anyone who seems like they have any capability for original thought. poor little saps

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Did anyone here actually read this? Haha
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>>11362151
>browsing /lit/ means you must respect pregnant Anne Frank posters from /his/
No. I've been on /his/ thousands of times, and I still can't stand that disgusting meme. El Hechizado > Anne Frank carrying Dixie babies in her womb
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>>11362506
I'm not saying you have to I'm saying that it shouldn't be a surprise
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>>11359580
>ends in white Marxist utopia
wat
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>>11359813
>a borderline-illiterate 80 IQ incorrigible white nationalist fucktard.
I'm pretty sure William Luther Pierce had a PhD in physics.
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>>11359580
yes it was fucking awesome, especially the part when he kills niggers with a shovel

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Chart thread continued
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>>11361267
I really do not enjoy the poetry selected for this
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>>11359630
Nawh, I thought a comprehensive list of epic literature is good. Gives people options for cool shit they otherwise wouldnt know about
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does anyone have a socialist lit chart? thanks
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>>11348798
>all of them are Jews
It's no coincidence. Jewish families traditionally were very patriarchal.
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Bump

>top 5 writers with the best prose
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>>11361298
Burke
Carlyle
Proust
Flaubert
Tyndale
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What are all the people saying Carlyle referring to? FR? Not one I was expecting to hear itt.
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>>11361298
NOTHING itt (except joyc) even close to pic related
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>>11361380
This
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Gertrude Stein by a comfortable margin. Then Joyce.

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Post books on and lightly politicians (American or otherwise) with interesting or important history behind them or their actions. Keep it short and civil: nobody likes scrolling through your word war over exactly how kosher most kosher salt is.

Picked up pic related on a whim because I remember being fascinated by Kissinger's political activity in high school. Have not began reading it yet. Also ended up with a book on Reagan called When Character was Key, also unopened
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>>11362858
>Post books on and lightly DISCUSS politicians
somehow wriggled out of the sentence
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>>11362858
Kissenger is a good pick, however if you want to understand American foreign policy I would pick world order, and to supplment it I would pick up The Grand Chessboard by Zbigniew Brzezinsk.
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Posting here in the hopes that Kissingerposter or someone else sees this and posts a PDF of Kissinger's dissertation.
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>>11362899
>Kissinger's dissertation
curious, is it the insane?
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>>11362899
Is that "a world restored: Metternich, Castlereagh and the problem of peace 1812-22"?
I'm pretty sure he did his undergrad thesis on Kant too

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I know he's considered one of the best novelists of all time, a great psychologist etc, but did he have humor? Are his works ever funny, did they ever make you laugh? To me, he seems like he didn't have any humor whatsoever, judging by what I read so far (only a couple of short stories). Am I right in my assessment?
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Nah lots of his earlier stuff can be funny, if you try Anna Karenina the opening is written in a quite dry, humorous style, it has a very mocking tone towards the first character you're introduced to. The whole thing has humorous parts, though I would never say it's a 'funny' book or anything. There's just about as much humour as you would want/expect from something that is entirely about people interacting, whilst still being overall about tragedy/human development. I've not yet read War and Peace so I can't attest to anything in it.

Most of his short work was written post-Anna Karenina. Whilst I don't agree with people who say he went off his rocker artistically after AK - I think some of it is even better: Ivan Ilych, Master and Man, Father Sergius, Divine and Human and Aloysha the Pot are all pretty much perfect stories - it is clear that yeah it's nearly as humorous and is reflective of Tolstoy's preoccupation with religion/morality at the time. So you could see a sort of ironic humour in something like How Much Land Does a Man Need? but I would not regard it a humorous story as such. If you're looking for humour specifically I wouldn't recommend Tolstoy at any rate, but if you just want something there to break up the mood definitely regard Anna Karenina as a sort of cut-off from when he stopped pursuing typical storytelling gratification as a goal in his writing. There could be for all I know a lot of humour in late stories I've not yet read like Hadji Murat, but these are my overall impressions. Definitely still pursue his works I reckon, he's pretty much the greatest novelist ever as you said.
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I laugh at sad things, so his books are a riot to me.
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>>11362317
Great answer, thank you
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Depends what you classify as humour. He doesn't go for out-an-out comic set pieces or jokes. But he's very capable of cutting wit, and writing conversation between witty characters

write what’s on your mind
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>>11362548
Dude youd be cool if you werent like such s rapey stslking fsggot ys know? Like i dont even know you but you know me so like whoa stop stalking me youbstupid bitch shut your mouth and fuck off lol
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>>11351581
Be strong!
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>>11355504
I know that feel. It's even worse when you don't really know if you are acting in bad faith or not
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>>11343518
:^(
You
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Been thinking about the allegory of the cave and what it means to shape your own reality.
I feel lost in the fact that anime girls are too unreal, and i will never find a girl like in manga/anime, i know this seems childish and immature, but the thought/allure of never ending quest for perfection makes life feel like a never ending european melodrama

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How come Catholics keep recommending me Tolstoy and Dostoevsky when their books are anti-Catholic?
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>>11362940
I edit my own anime subtitles you fucking loser.
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>>11362917
Dostoyevsky was a christfag
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>>11362917
Because cunts wouldnt shut their fucking cunt mouths about it and nobody had the presence of mind to slap a racist white worthless bitch on her mouth.
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>>11362917
>why would anyone enjoy something when they didn't agree with the author 100%
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>>11362917
>are you retarded? have you read brothers Karamazov or confessions? It shouldn't be to hard to figure out.

I work in a smaller Used Books Store in a medium sized city in northern Europe. If you're interested, I will answer questions about dealing with used books.
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>>11360481
how many black people read books?
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>>11361409
The best way to deal with it is to clean your book every once in a while, as the dust attracts humidity which leaves marks. If the mould is already there, you can try and dry the books up, by putting them in a warm room, or even getting a de-humidifier. But the marks will be there still. These marks are referred to as book-plague.
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>>11360698
>dont shit where you eat
...umm what?
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>>11362892
I'd rather not say, as it is quite small, and there is only so many of these kinds of stores. It is in Scandinavia though.

>>11362905
Not that many, though I guess it is actually a lot compared to the total black populations size. Some are really well-educated folks. We even get the odd middleeaster from time to time, though some come in only to see if there's something to steal or a place to hide dope.
The owner was once offered quite a lot of money under the table if he would move, so a group of arabs could move in and open a hashish-club. He said no though.
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>>11363071
It's a saying which means that you shouldn't mix things too much together, but rather keep them separated, which is a way to avoid trouble and bad situations.

When it comes to tomorrow…there are no guarantees

Emma, Eddie, and Zach. Best Friends. They were inseparable.

U n t i l t h e y w e r e n ’ t.

The three had grown up together, thick as thieves, friends until the end… well, with a minor exception. Emma had been in love with Zach for as long as she could remember. But it was one-sided.

U n t i l i t w a s n ’ t.

Then life changed. Emma started her first year of college and Zach and Eddie signed up to serve their country together, heading off to war. Life wasn’t quite fair. Emma’s hopes for a life between her and Zach dwindled with the distance and the passage of time. But there was still hope.

U n t i l t h e r e w a s n ’ t.

The unthinkable happened. After all… there was a war. And the three became two. Zach and Emma were left broken, crushed into a million pieces.

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http://hyperurl.co/ft3m7v

Good lit on the Black Death.
Preferably from the period.
Thanks.
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>>11362287
This is exactly what you're looking for.
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>>11362936
Based Defoe recommender.
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>>11362936
Too bad the current OWC print doesn't have this cover. This is fire.
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>>11362936
300 years too late
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Probably the most historically accurate. Or read the alchemists cat series

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Translation. what are the rules for translating poetry?

i have over the years done some casual translations for Russian poets, both alive and dead, simply or the exercise of it.

But now, having looked at them again, i think they are some of my best work and that it would be a shame to just see it wasted.

what are the rules for this kind of stuff? google has given me two pieces of contradictory advice and im now completely lost. can i publish them for free? can i get paid for em? how does copyright affect me?

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is it true that Vidya and Anime are a much more deeper philosophical and knowledge mediums than books?
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>>11363040
I would say so. Bioshock for instance caught a lot of people's imagination and got them interested in other things, it had a great depth. Oblivion too. There have been multiple instances of video games that inspired people and weren't just trash
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>>11363025
why would you come here and ask that question? are you a brainlet?
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>>11363054
Good job insulting somebody as an excuse for yourself not to think about the subject itself. You're the real brainlet.
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Films > Videogames = Anime > Books > TV.

Like it or not, the only book on the same level as pic related is Lolita.
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All of these posts are (or were) me, by the way.

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Were there any good orcs in any of Tolkien's writings?
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>>11362143
What about the Goblins? Any good Goblins?
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there were no good orcs in any of tolkien's writings.

there aren't really any good orcs in 40K either, are there?

was pic rel the first Good Orc?
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>>11362189
there are no good characters in 40k except for the emperor and he's dead
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>>11362189
The Goblin King seemed like a somewhat reasonable orc.
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>>11362140
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orc_%28Middle-earth%29#The_origin_of_Orcs

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So, what exactly is the message of this book? (if there's any) I've read it and i'm not really sure what Hesse is trying to say with this work.. Explain.
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"Yes, Ananda, there is one quality that, when developed & pursued, brings four qualities to completion; and four qualities that, when developed & pursued, bring seven qualities to completion; and seven qualities that, when developed & pursued, bring two qualities to completion. And what is the one quality that, when developed & pursued, brings four qualities to completion? What are the four qualities that, when developed & pursued, bring seven qualities to completion? What are the seven qualities that, when developed & pursued, bring two qualities to completion?

"Mindfulness of in-&-out breathing, when developed & pursued, brings the four frames of reference[1] to completion. The four frames of reference, when developed & pursued, bring the seven factors for Awakening to completion. The seven factors for Awakening, when developed & pursued, bring clear knowing & release to completion.
Mindfulness of In-&-Out Breathing

"Now how is mindfulness of in-&-out breathing developed & pursued so as to bring the four frames of reference to their culmination?

"There is the case where a monk, having gone to the wilderness, to the shade of a tree, or to an empty building, sits down folding his legs crosswise, holding his body erect, and setting mindfulness to the fore. Always mindful, he breathes in; mindful he breathes out.

"[1] Breathing in long, he discerns, 'I am breathing in long'; or breathing out long, he discerns, 'I am breathing out long.' [2] Or breathing in short, he discerns, 'I am breathing in short'; or breathing out short, he discerns, 'I am breathing out short.' [3] He trains himself, 'I will breathe in sensitive to the entire body.' He trains himself, 'I will breathe out sensitive to the entire body.' [4] He trains himself, 'I will breathe in calming bodily fabrication.' He trains himself, 'I will breathe out calming bodily fabrication.'

"[5] He trains himself, 'I will breathe in sensitive to rapture.' He trains himself, 'I will breathe out sensitive to rapture.' [6] He trains himself, 'I will breathe in sensitive to pleasure.' He trains himself, 'I will breathe out sensitive to pleasure.' [7] He trains himself, 'I will breathe in sensitive to mental fabrication.' He trains himself, 'I will breathe out sensitive to mental fabrication.' [8] He trains himself, 'I will breathe in calming mental fabrication.' He trains himself, 'I will breathe out calming mental fabrication.'

"[9] He trains himself, 'I will breathe in sensitive to the mind.' He trains himself, 'I will breathe out sensitive to the mind.' [10] He trains himself, 'I will breathe in satisfying the mind.' He trains himself, 'I will breathe out satisfying the mind.' [11] He trains himself, 'I will breathe in steadying the mind.' He trains himself, 'I will breathe out steadying the mind.' [12] He trains himself, 'I will breathe in releasing the mind.' He trains himself, 'I will breathe out releasing the mind.'
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"[13] He trains himself, 'I will breathe in focusing on inconstancy.' He trains himself, 'I will breathe out focusing on inconstancy.' [14] He trains himself, 'I will breathe in focusing on dispassion.'[2] He trains himself, 'I will breathe out focusing on dispassion.' [15] He trains himself, 'I will breathe in focusing on cessation.' He trains himself, 'I will breathe out focusing on cessation.' [16] He trains himself, 'I will breathe in focusing on relinquishment.' He trains himself, 'I will breathe out focusing on relinquishment.'
The Four Frames of Reference

"[1] Now, on whatever occasion a monk breathing in long discerns that he is breathing in long; or breathing out long, discerns that he is breathing out long; or breathing in short, discerns that he is breathing in short; or breathing out short, discerns that he is breathing out short; trains himself to breathe in... &... out sensitive to the entire body; trains himself to breathe in... &... out calming the bodily processes: On that occasion the monk remains focused on the body in & of itself — ardent, alert, & mindful — putting aside greed & distress with reference to the world. I tell you that this — the in-&-out breath — is classed as a body among bodies, which is why the monk on that occasion remains focused on the body in & of itself — ardent, alert, & mindful — putting aside greed & distress with reference to the world.

"[2] On whatever occasion a monk trains himself to breathe in... &... out sensitive to rapture; trains himself to breathe in... &... out sensitive to pleasure; trains himself to breathe in... &... out sensitive to mental processes; trains himself to breathe in... &... out calming mental processes: On that occasion the monk remains focused on feelings in & of themselves — ardent, alert, & mindful — putting aside greed & distress with reference to the world. I tell you that this — close attention to in-&-out breaths — is classed as a feeling among feelings, which is why the monk on that occasion remains focused on feelings in & of themselves — ardent, alert, & mindful — putting aside greed & distress with reference to the world.

"[3] On whatever occasion a monk trains himself to breathe in... &... out sensitive to the mind; trains himself to breathe in... &... out satisfying the mind; trains himself to breathe in... &... out steadying the mind; trains himself to breathe in... &... out releasing the mind: On that occasion the monk remains focused on the mind in & of itself — ardent, alert, & mindful — putting aside greed & distress with reference to the world. I don't say that there is mindfulness of in-&-out breathing in one of confused mindfulness and no alertness, which is why the monk on that occasion remains focused on the mind in & of itself — ardent, alert, & mindful — putting aside greed & distress with reference to the world.
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"[4] On whatever occasion a monk trains himself to breathe in... &... out focusing on inconstancy; trains himself to breathe in... &... out focusing on dispassion; trains himself to breathe in... &... out focusing on cessation; trains himself to breathe in... &... out focusing on relinquishment: On that occasion the monk remains focused on mental qualities in & of themselves — ardent, alert, & mindful — putting aside greed & distress with reference to the world. He who sees clearly with discernment the abandoning of greed & distress is one who oversees with equanimity, which is why the monk on that occasion remains focused on mental qualities in & of themselves — ardent, alert, & mindful — putting aside greed & distress with reference to the world.

"This is how mindfulness of in-&-out breathing is developed & pursued so as to bring the four frames of reference to their culmination.
The Seven Factors for Awakening

"And how are the four frames of reference developed & pursued so as to bring the seven factors for Awakening to their culmination?

"[1] On whatever occasion the monk remains focused on the body in & of itself — ardent, alert, & mindful — putting aside greed & distress with reference to the world, on that occasion his mindfulness is steady & without lapse. When his mindfulness is steady & without lapse, then mindfulness as a factor for Awakening becomes aroused. He develops it, and for him it goes to the culmination of its development.

"[2] Remaining mindful in this way, he examines, analyzes, & comes to a comprehension of that quality with discernment. When he remains mindful in this way, examining, analyzing, & coming to a comprehension of that quality with discernment, then analysis of qualities as a factor for Awakening becomes aroused. He develops it, and for him it goes to the culmination of its development.

"[3] In one who examines, analyzes, & comes to a comprehension of that quality with discernment, unflagging persistence is aroused. When unflagging persistence is aroused in one who examines, analyzes, & comes to a comprehension of that quality with discernment, then persistence as a factor for Awakening becomes aroused. He develops it, and for him it goes to the culmination of its development.

"[4] In one whose persistence is aroused, a rapture not-of-the-flesh arises. When a rapture not-of-the-flesh arises in one whose persistence is aroused, then rapture as a factor for Awakening becomes aroused. He develops it, and for him it goes to the culmination of its development.

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"[6] For one who is at ease — his body calmed — the mind becomes concentrated. When the mind of one who is at ease — his body calmed — becomes concentrated, then concentration as a factor for Awakening becomes aroused. He develops it, and for him it goes to the culmination of its development.

"[7] He oversees the mind thus concentrated with equanimity. When he oversees the mind thus concentrated with equanimity, equanimity as a factor for Awakening becomes aroused. He develops it, and for him it goes to the culmination of its development.

(Similarly with the other three frames of reference: feelings, mind, & mental qualities.)

"This is how the four frames of reference are developed & pursued so as to bring the seven factors for Awakening to their culmination.
Clear Knowing & Release

"And how are the seven factors for Awakening developed & pursued so as to bring clear knowing & release to their culmination? There is the case where a monk develops mindfulness as a factor for Awakening dependent on seclusion... dispassion... cessation, resulting in relinquishment. He develops analysis of qualities as a factor for Awakening... persistence as a factor for Awakening... rapture as a factor for Awakening... serenity as a factor for Awakening... concentration as a factor for Awakening... equanimity as a factor for Awakening dependent on seclusion... dispassion... cessation, resulting in relinquishment.

"This is how the seven factors for Awakening, when developed & pursued, bring clear knowing & release to their culmination."

That is what the Blessed One said. Gratified, Ven. Ananda delighted in the Blessed One's words.
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