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I saw Thomas Pynchon at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.

He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”

I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
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>>11026239
Good copypasta. One of my favorites actually
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>>11026239
>He didn't replace milky ways with bananas

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>literature is about creativity, forming the mind and articulation
>people get mad about off-topic threads that take them out of their comoft zone
>all of my mfws
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>browsing an anime imageboard is the same as reading a book
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>>11027642
>what is reading comprehension

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>people that read pop literature/bestseller
>people that read biographies of literally whos
>people that study dramaturgy
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>>11027214
don't blame it on literature. i'm a long, long-time lurker of this board. it used to be pretty good here, for a 4chan board anyway, but ever since the whole 2016 election trump bullshit, self-defeatist celibates from /r9k/ and racist irony golems from /pol/ have been leaking onto this board, and neither of those groups read any literature, they just linger here because the posts are sometimes more thought-out than their home boards. i think the problem is getting better though, it's not as bad as it used to be. if nothing else i think the fuckers swamping us over here are actually starting to read, which is both good and bad.
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>>11027402
I like him only because he’s the only decent Youtuber that has good taste and talks about lit that’s not YA fiction shit or super entry level stuff. He’s insufferable as a person though with his affected, pretentious personality and false humility. He genuinely seems like the kind of guy that would masturbate to his own image.
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>>11027127
>he doesn’t use astrology
The absolute state of /lit/
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>people that read pop literature/bestseller
>people that read biographies of literally whos
>mfw OP is actually autistic enough to get mad about other people enjoying things
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>>11027500
>implying you never get mad about other people enjoying things

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First time reading.

How would you improve my /lit/starter kit?
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>>11027079
Ok m8 I cam here to ask a question, not have text walls thrown at me. I don't know the source material therefore I won't even read that because I'm not confident that I can answer accurately without context of the entire piece
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>>11025395
infinite jest isn't hard to read at all, it's just long as hell
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>>11027095
It's a poem you fag. There's no context. And if you read it you will have your question answered.
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>>11027107
Ok I read it and it doesn't answer my question

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Broken_Tower

It appears that like I said, the meta is important to analyze the piece. The piece by itself does not convey all the information neccessary for understanding it
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>>11026940
this

It seems fitting with his philosophy that he would welcome them. So why did he say "I am just having all anti-Semites shot." Was it because they were naturally successful, while the Nazis had the resort to governmental power to dominate them? I keep reading that fascists "misappropriated" and "misinterpreted" Nietzsche. Are his morals of natural selection only supposed to apply to individuals?
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>>11026984
It is true that Hitler is of a different league than his followers. But that doesn't save him in this case. Hitler wouldn't stand well alone under Nietzschean scrutiny. World War I and World War II were both propelled by forces and concepts and needs not simply dormant but active in the previous century. Remember that the Germany of the 19th century is not from some pre-modern alien universe of "traditional values", it is a thoroughly modern society undergoing an incredible philosophical and cultural process. The results of any number of existing causes will change depending on what events do and do not occur; but the characteristics of Nazism and the Germany that begat and embraced it were not simply the product of the Second World War and inaccesible to Nietzsche's criticism, as the Volkisch movement as well as Elizabeth Forster-Nietzsche and her husband's excursions into Germanic racial colonies prove. The Romantic, Germanised Nordic/Christian syncretism of Wagner is another obvious indication of the cultural state of Germany.
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>>11027002
>The Nazis were not hard spirits, they were not made cold by the necessity
brah, they survived ww1. you keep talking about them like they visited the wrong lectures.
i've registered the rest of your posts, but i already wrote too much previously itt and will keep repeating myself at this point

>>11027018
ever read his views on napoleon?
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>>11027040
>they survived WW1
no they didn’t, Rosenberg, Goebbels and Himmler never fought in WW1 and the SS was filled with men who were teens and toddlers during the war. There was no hardening of spirits, it was pure world-spite and avaricious desire for glory. Nothing about their campaign was heroic, from the very first it represented a denial of fate and nihilistic obsession with equality of outcomes, for they felt their race deserved to be dominant when it was not already and was not poised to be.
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>>11026984
>translation: he would like him, but it's too uncomfortable to admit
That's not at all what that means. We know he loved Napoleon and his militarism and hated the growing effeminacy of his age. We just don't know for certain what his thoughts would have been on the personality of Hitler. My guess, though, is that he would have liked him.

>translation: lets pretend ww1 didnt happen and nazis didnt naturally drift towards nietzscheanism out of disillusion with traditional values
Do you really think that the spirit of the masses can change so quickly and so drastically?
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>>11025692
>>It seems fitting with his philosophy that he would welcome them

How so?

What are some books on Tengri and all the beliefs/practices surrounding it? (and possibly how it influenced or was influenced by Hunnic/Mongol people) I can't find much information besides bare-bones stuff

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i read the Metamorphosis and really liked it. what by Kafka should i read next?
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Try Heinrich von Kleist as well. You can get his novellas and short stories together in a single volume.
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>>11025708
Don’t say you love the anime...if you haven’t watched the live action adaptation
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>>11025742
>For some strange reason, the anglophone world reads it as a dark comedy.
Kafka was lauging so hard when he read the ending to his friends he supposedly fell out of his chair.
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I would also suggest for anyone interested in kafka's work (esp. trial and metamorphosis) to read deleuze 'n' guatarri's book on him
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Parables and Paradoxes

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What am I in for?
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It's good. If you like Hugo, you'll dig it. If you don't like Hugo, get some fucking taste and try again.
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>>11026242
Be nice to uggos, the book
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>>11027043
I don't know anything about Hugo.
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A defence of gothic architecture
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It's fun to compare with the animation desu. All Victor Hugo books are the same

and that is a good thing, unironically

I’m reading The Sorrows of Young Werther
General discussion thread
What are some of your favorite quotes?
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the one about books

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only post hard shit on facebook i.e. “steppin out for a cig” “bout to bust this hoe head” “bout to commit a hate crime” “basking in melancholy” things like that. keep ur lame ass thoughts and feelings for ur journals or do the healthy thing and dont let the weak shit manifest itself in writing dont even acknowledge ur feelings if ur feeling sad deny it tell ur self it’s beezlebub at it again. sadness is the 1st step to gayness.
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>hard
>facebook
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>>11026980
i smack the shit out of your familia

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How often and how long do you guys read anyway?
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>>11025159
2-4 hours a day 7 days a week
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>>11025456
>counting pages instead of blocks of time
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Idk lol
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>>11025159
every day between classes and before bed for 3-4 hours total. getting a kindle really stepped it up.
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On average probably 1.5h a day, 1/3 of it related to school. Although it can vary a lot, if i find a real gem i usually dedicate 100% of my free time to it.
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1.5 hours in bed every weeknight. Saturday afternoons at the library
>tfw when no friends
I can usually read a novel in a few days and non-fiction in a week.

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Redpill me on phenomenology
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>>11027383
bro you are literally asking us to just "redpill" you on thousands of pages of works from dozens of authors
please go read for yourself and then kys shortly after
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>>11027383
is that slang for "teach me about phenomenology, please"?
you can start here: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/phenomenology/

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Modern poetry is easy.

All you have to do is
Write about anything you want
(Romance, preferably.
The public eat that shit up),
Start a new line
Whenever you feel like it,
Capitalise the 1st letter
Of each line,
And then call it free verse.

Anyone can do it
In a society
Where no-one calls you out for it.
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This is in fact
My very first attempt
At a poem.

For some reason
Beyond my comprehension
gently eluding my grasp
to my utmost perplexion

I pronounce this internally
Like some soft-voiced faggot
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>Modern poetry is easy.
>reads T. S. Eliot
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>>11027299
Nice dubs. You say that's the case, but I doubt your shitty joke poem could get published.
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>protagonist is at a feast
>looks about the revelry
>Cambridge feasting gets louder
>"I'd like to propose a toast"
>"to OXFORD UNIVERSITY"
>"No!"

How can I adapt this into my novel?

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>/altlit/ - Let's Begin Edition

This thread is for literary forms that are a bit less popular and don't get as much discussion on their own. That could include hypertext, interactive fiction, light novels, web-based serialized fiction, audio dramas, or any other similar formats.

Fact of the thread: House of Leaves is "ergodic fiction," which means that there is more required of the reader than simply flipping through the book reading the words and the mental effort of interpretation, including making choices. This places it squarely in the same category as hypertext literature and, while it may have more literary value than the latter, the Choose Your Own Adventure books.

So what have you been delving into lately?
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>>11026956
>>11026595
I'm not saying there aren't good ones, they're just rare. Iris on Rainy Days was very good, for example, but I read a mountain of crap before I got to it.
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>>11026956
>>11026968
That's true with pulp here too. Pulp is still fun. Conan isn't (usually) especially deep but it's great. Same with the Stainless Steel Rat.

I imagine the same is true for LNs.
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>>11026968
I've never read a LN besides the ones on which some anime I liked were based. I'll check out Iris on Rainy Days. Thanks!
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>>11026595
You have to remember that they're Japanese and if you don't know Japanese your only option are generally terrible translations done by internet weebs.
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>>11027327
Good point.



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