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give me something that compares to 2666
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>Los Detectives Salvages (The Savage Detectives)

>Los Sorias
good luck finding a translation though.

>A Dance to the Music of Time

>El Hombre Que Amaba los Perros (The Man Who Loved Dogs)

>Paradiso (Lezama)

>Tropic of Cancer, Capricorn

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it's the only book which after reading it made me want to write a thank you thank you thank you letter to the author. it's the only 1000 pages long book that made me want it to be 10 times that.
>Tropic of Cancer, Capricorn
i've read his book on rimbaud and it made me hate the guy. don't like his way of seeing things.
You didn't answer the question
do not waste my time with Yous like that.

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Hey /lit/, recently I was wondering how did indoctrination or propaganda work, and how did people resisted them in the past, are there any biographies or book s that take on these topics ?

Pic kinda related.
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>He was a real hard working dude who lived a hard life
Read Bernays' Propaganda.
I don't think any of those things are actually true. In a thread concerning propaganda, I don't think such shit-flinging belongs.

He loves Marx as a character and individual. He doesn't subscribe to Marxism the ideology (some of the books Marx wrote). What's so hard to grasp? They are entirely distinct objects.
I didn't know that his books wrote itselves. Kill yourself, maggot.

What is the edgiest thing ever written? I might post some of my edgy writings if there is interest.
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I once wrote Rick and Morty anal vore fan fiction ironically
The 120 Days of Sodom is the quintessential edgelord work.
was shit
liked the first paragraph. really hits that rick n morty feel.

>tfw I like fascism

Books for this feel?
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My diary desu
>actually being retarded enough to identify yourself with a political ideology
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Is this more or less fucked up than Marquis De Sade?
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No? From what I've read of it, it has great picture, but it's pretty disjointed. It's good book, but the best aspects would be though to translate well. Or maybe not, I started reading it a long time ago and I don't even remember how far I got; that's just how I remember it. Also my predictive spell checker seems convinced that every other word I want to write in this message is "Nabokov". What the hell?
Not OP but do you have any more suggestions of disturbing literature? I have read what you have listed.
Any good bilingual editions?
Michael Gira - The Consumer
Less and way more poetic

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>"For the Age has itself become vulgar, and most people have no idea to what extent they are themselves tainted. The bad manners of all parliaments, the general tendency to connive at a rather shady business transaction if it promises to bring in money without work, jazz and Negro dances as the spiritual outlet in all circles of society, women painted like prostitutes, the efforts of writers to win popularity by ridiculing in their novels and plays the correctness of well-bred people, and the bad taste shown even by the nobility and old princely families in throwing off every kind of social restraint and time-honoured custom: all of these go to prove that it is now the vulgar mob that gives the tone.”
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The argument I was suggesting is suggested is: the statement 'western civilization is collapsing or degrading', what is the mean or matter of that?

Which is exactly the point of it; western civilization could degrade, lose its culture, and what would it matter as long as people could still eat and fuck?

Western civilization/culture = certain values and cultures,

There are still musueums and over 1000 people who partake in western culture and spend their time consuming its traditional and whatever stuff:

What is really the fear, how much of it is about art? How much of it is about law? How much of it is about 'common decency of the town folk to one another on the streets'? How much of it is about primitive animalistic exploitations?

And so how much effort by how many should be expended in an attempt to 'prove?', to convert, how many others to seeing that there is better and worse ways of thinking and being?

And beyond law, how much can really be done in terms of forcing others to think and behave a certain way?

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More like oswald sperger amirite
How come all the people who write like this don't really amount to anything, often reveal to be exhibitions of the reality that is opposed to their idealism? This autistic cunt wouldn't fit in his own fiction, maybe he realised that though.

Instead of simply being something he rather stand still and say "no", remaining a fresh child and constructing a fantasy to pleasure himself through escapism.

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As anyone read this collection of CCRU writings? Is it worth reading?
Just fucking pirate it off LibGen and then buy it afterwards if you want to support the publisher. That's what I do 99% of the time.
>Mesh-00. Net-Span (1::0).
>The Call and its Numbers
>The Lemur of the 1::0 rift is called Gl’eiaoung in the Old Muvian Tongue. Her name in modern Munumese is ‘Lurgo’, which Stillwell translates into English as ‘The Initiator’.
>The name ‘Lurgo’ is apparently based on a reversal of the Munumese quasiphonic particle ‘gl’.
>Horowitz phonologically identifies this ‘collapsed gargle’ or ‘glottal spasm’ with the fusion of a gutteral and a liquid. He physiologically situates it in the sublaryngeal region, and associates it with lost gilled/gulping phylogenetic stages of human ancestry.
>Horowitz glimpsed something in the Lurgo’s ‘gl’ subphoneme that he saw as essential to the glottopolitics of English as a global language. In the course of further investigating this particle he was drawn into what he referred to as a labyrinth of “glitter-glyphs” where sense is scattered in visual confusion, and began to speak of glamours and glosses, ultimately cascading down into the “gulf-glued glug-logic of the glimmer ghouls”, although precisely what he meant by this remains obscure.
>Lurgo, as the first of the Lemurs, is responsible for initiations, door-openings, thresholds, guides and familiars.
>The Tzikvik call her Oogvhu, the Immortal Worm of primordial communication.
>In Haitian Voodoo her role is taken by Legba, the first and last of the Loa to be invoked in any ritual.
>Legba’s Lurgo-related characteristics are shared by Madame Centauri’s ‘Celestial messenger’ Logobubb.
>Lurgo’s net-span, 1::0, links her to elementary principles of logical and arithmetical discrimination, binary code, the origin of number, being and nonbeing.
>During her study of the I Ching, Stillwell became persuaded that due to her ‘elementary net-span’ Lurgo was related with special intensity to the Taoist polarity of Yang and Yin, light and shadow, even suggesting that the I Ching’s code of unbroken and broken lines was the relic of a “primordial language, first enunciated by Lurgo”.
>In Black Atlantean traditions the ‘primal alternation’ described by Lurgo’s net-span expresses the distance between divine unity and the void, God and Chaos, an abysmal gulf crossed in every Decadence ritual (opened and closed by Lurgo / Legba / Logobubb).

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To clarify, it's a lot more mellow than Fanged Noumena gets at the height of Old Nick's amphetamine usage. It has a whole load of fake biography/academic shit. Great for neo-Lovecraft conspiracy theory LARPing, I guess. If you liked Cyclonopedia you'll probably like this.
I saw this in the Kindle store for 99 cents. Worth it?

What's some philosophers or philosophical theories that are in the same vain as the film (and the original)?

Pseuds are welcome, but I was thinking surely Heidegger's views on technology and the purpose of it is hugely important as well as Kierkegaard's Despair
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nice arguments
Non-arguments for a non-critique.
Very persuasive
"Pale Fire" is about a guy who believes himself secretly to be special because of a bunch of false memories. I'm not sure if it goes much beyond that.


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who is the lil pump of literature?
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> /wiz/

Well now I want to know what on earth that is

Do they just discuss spells, what the heck dude
wizards as in the 30+ year old virgin type
Woah you're so mature, mang xd

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And it's good! Wtf? Granted, it is sort of like a standard BBC murder mystery, and will probably end up as one, but it really is good. Do you think he actually wrote it himself?
Irish faggot I actually love and no one wants to acknowledge him? So painfully typical of my life.
I'd expect it's quite good, but designed to be a comfy book more than groundbreaking. I'm sure it's lovely.
He's never going to do anything scarier than Father Noel Furlong tbph though.

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So I just read Fight Club. What is the next must-read on the agenda?

Pic unrelated
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That's pretty much it. No book will ever be as good as Combat Clique.
More. What else is there on the insurgent Anon's toilet paper list?
These. Palahniuk gets boring after a few books, so it doesn't really matter which, but those two have merit and renown. I'd add Survivor because it'll teach you manners.
I Forgot about survivor. That's a good one as well.

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What's a good book to help someone who is indecisive, risk-averse, cowardly, and without ambition?
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>I'm afraid of being eaten by a wolf pack
>I'm afraid of the violent gang of robbers on the streets where I live
Fear might go away, sure. So might everything else.
Dale Carnegie, How to Stop Worrying and Start Living has some very sound, down-to-earth common sense advice that I think you would find useful. The thing about Carnegie is he spent years polishing his language -- so his remarks are pithy, striking, and forceful. His books were bestsellers for a reason He had a real talent for getting through the layers of objections and defense mechanisms we tend to set up as a shield. He had a gift for providing compassionate, wise advice.
Religious texts. Psychology books. I'm not sure if a novel will be of much help.

Ultimately, >>10163470 is correct. The reason why I unironically suggest religious texts is because they encourage their followers to lead somewhat fulfilling lives, under the idea that their deity/leader/whatever approves what the followers are doing so long as they worship in a certain way. >>10163324 is the same, or gives the same result, just with a drill instructor in lieu of a god.

For risk-averse people, life is about not letting inertia control you and, instead, letting the moving aspect of inertia do the work for you. The only way to build confidence is to see, over a period of time, that what you're doing isn't causing your world to crash down around you.
>You might get something out of the Twilight Zone episode Nervous Man in a Four Dollar Room.
Just watched it. No epiphany. No fundamental change in self. No cure.
There won't be an ephiphany. The cure is to kick yourself in the ass, develope routines and do the things you know will benefit you. This isn't really a /lit/ topic, all self help books boil down to that.

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What is /lit/s take on ereaders?

I don't have one as I like the feeling of a real book but I like the idea of it's portability and the fact that I could save money on books by just downloading them.
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the complete works of shakespeare are free on kindle
you can't find that deal in a bookstore
Ebooks are always like 5 bucks cheaper assuming you don't just pirate them.

They're not perfect for everything but they're absolutely worth it.
I have a paperwhite, it's great tech but I don't really enjoy the ebook experience. Pretty much the only time I use it is if I'm going to be somewhere for an extended time where I'm going to be reading a fair deal in poorly lit environments like while camping or traveling.
How can you even read without rotating the screen in the settings? A simple 90 degree turn really makes reading much easier
Kindles are a bit small for that. I'd be interested in trying ebooks on a large tablet like an ipad pro though.

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Interesting post there

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A fucking 11yo boy recriated IJ with lego figures while you guys played viedeogames and browsed on /lit/.

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This. Kids are idiots and most of these exploits are always created by the parents.
Underrated post
What year did they start doing this? I think my old high school teacher may have unironically done this years before them.

Wallace found irony to be a dead end, and new sincerity was a solution for him.
supposed 'sincerity', but for those who cannot be sincere on their own and need some kind of named group ideology to shelter in, so they can think to themselves: 'ah yes, how sincere...-how new!' and call it a day in their minds, never really attempting the sublime

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