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Anybody here knows the same feeling?

>I'm a lawyer and a writer. As I am not actually very found of Law - I studied it because I knew writing is not a very safe way to sustain oneself - I decided that maybe I should prepare to become a university literature teacher.
>I've written plays and poems so far, but I cannot earn a living with such works. I decided to start a master's degree in literature, already thinking about becoming a teacher in the future.
>I was excited to start classes. I wanted nothing more than to discuss books, especially the techniques that are used to compose each work; I wnated to see the inward anatomy of the style of great writers (I try to do this by myself, of course, but it would be nice to have other people to share information).
>I was even hoping to learn new techniques about the novel form (I decided to take some time away from the plays and the verses and write a novel - since the form has more readers and critical appreciation/visibility)
>The classes start.
>Turns out that all classes are about theories of language and literature that talk a lot and say nothing.
>Instead of great writers what we moslty read are pseudo-philosophers who would never be able to write even a single literary work of value: Barthes, Saussure, Derrida, Jakobsen.
>Basically the only matters we discuss are things like whether or not language can designate what is real; whether or not the world can be portrayed in books; whether or not mimesis is a conventional falsehood (and even a bourgeois representation of the world), etc, etc.
>All the time I feel I am reading books by people whose souls are just like the guy on the pic.
>All I wanted was to take classes like the ones Nabokov taught.
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>>10752704
Kinda, I’m studying for finance while I actually write my video essay prompts and book on weekends
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>>10752704
Where did you study?
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>>10752775

I live in a country that is considered third world (and not an english speaking country), so nobody here ever heard about the University I went to.

I am doing my Masters in other university. Both are very good for the standarts of the country, but they are not in the level of the Ivy League or the best British Universities.

On a side note, I have looked up the Harvard department of Literature professors and was not that impressed. I thought they would have major writers teaching there. Yet it is also true that one of the professors (a transvestite, I kid you not) wrote a very good book abot the art of the sonnet in English.

As for the famous Helen Vendler - also a professor in Harvard - I think she sees things in poems that are not there and fail to see the most important things. So I don't know if even Harvard would be that rewarding...people like Nabokov - even when he was plaing the role of teacher - are probably quite rare.
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>>10752704
at least your being taught by a goodlooking pedo with a mustache like nick mullen, rather than a creepy pedo like nabokov
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>>10752878
Salute to a fellow cumboy

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Are there any books on Leonardo Da Vinci, his work, his thought process and stuff like that actually worth reading?
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Leonardo’s beard is god-tier.

Why did everyone hype this series? The first book is pretty fucking average. Complete waste of a sci-fi concept for played out, needless character drama that could be done in literally any setting.
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never seen it mentioned ever
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waste of time vague-scifi horror.
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This is your fault for treating a fun pop genre fiction book seriously. Just read it and move on
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>>10752547
>fun
Fun is a social construct, and frankly a waste of time. Why would anyone [i]want[/i] to have fun, especially with all the possibilities available in this day and age? Take this back to r/books where it belongs
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>>10751846
Everyones hyping the movie, the book is just okay.

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The Master said, "Oh, Zengzi! My sandal, each fiber steeped in stench!" Zengzi said, “Indeed.”

After the Master had left, his followers asked Zengzi, “What did he mean?” Zengzi said, “The Master's Way is nothing but wetness of sweaty sandals.”

Is this good?
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>>10751445
And you're a loser with no serious job, no family, and no wife.
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Yes
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>>10750912
>Not everyone has the time to study philosophy
True, so no point in half-assing it with something like this. Anthologies are far better; collections of excerpts from first sources with short introductory essays for each.
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>>10751445
>Please waste as much time as I have reading overlong philosophical texts
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>>10750312
Im only 80 pages in but its good so far. Im using it to pick out the stuff im interested in and then get primary sources for those.

Terry Pinkard's new Phenomenology of Spirit translation has been released.

Any of you got it?
Worth the price tag?
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>>10751286
That was the WIP.
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>>10751288
what's the difference? it's not like you are going to read the whole phenomenology either way
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>>10751300
>what's the difference?
Thats what I'm asking too.
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>>10750807 (OP)
People say it's not much different to what was already out with the Pinkard pdf online in terms of style.

As far as superior, since I know German for fuck all, those that I know who do and are Hegel experts have expressed the opinion that they think this is not much of an improvement other than 'fixing' Miller's inconsistent term translations. According to one professor they think the new translation sacrifices literary speculative form for technical term correctness, both of which exist in the original version. So basically: Miller = more geared towards conveying speculative content; Pinkard = more geared towards conveying term cosistency. I look at both translations when I read, and I have personally noticed places where the phrasing in both radically opens up certain insights.
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>>10751264
There are PDF's floating around of an earlier draft

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Hi guys. I've been stuck in my village for the last two years, without internet.
I'm can't find the download link for pic related anywhere (I'm searching with one eye because don't want to accidentally read spoilers haha)

Could you please link me the pdf so i can catch up with all you guys.
Thanks
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friendly reminder that every single page from TWOW released so far has been material cut from ADWD, and there is no evidence that GRRM (writer) wrote a single page since 2011
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>>10751922
Hard days of manchildren.
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/tv/ said that he's rewriting his manuscripts to be more in line with the show

please tell me this isn't true
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>>10752632
>>10749982
still terrified that wolfe will die before finishing the latro series
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>>10752808
considering the ratio of bad reviews of GOT to original plot points used in the show used is pretty much 1:1, I really doubt it.

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I hear banal criticisms of Dickens all the time. Do you know of any good critical pieces that are in favor of him? Preferably by another writer of fiction.
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>>10751902
>I hear banal criticisms of Dickens all the time.
Let me hit you with the most important one: he's boring as shit to read.
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Look for GK Chersterton on Dickens
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>>10752289
You have to learn to read his books at a brisk clip. For this to be possible, you first need to improve your vocabulary.
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>>10752289
Only if you're brain dead.
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Orwell has a good critical essay on Dickens. I will vouch for it.

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Name a more iconic trio

I'll wait
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>>10751007
This is really cool, thanks anon
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>>10751478
It's a bummer he got completely ignored by contemporary philosophers.

Stirner himself and Laskas interpretations were life changing for me. There is some real merit in Der Einzige und sein Eigentum, too bad it got memed so hard.

If you understand German, buy his books.
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>>10748517
This.
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>>10748553
>i haven't read any of these people but i'll pretend that i have on the internet

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Recommend me books that have JRPG feeling.
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>>10750873
No it doesn't.
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>>10750118
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>>10750118
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Why would you want a book with a jrpg feeling? Why don't you just play a jrpg?
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>>10752618
I’ve played all of them. All decent okay.

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hey /lit/ in the need of some interesting halo books and scifi novels worth reading. ive read ghosts of onyx, most of the foundation series (didn't really like them, 4.5/10) so some other recommendations would be nice. books with good world building, extensive lore, etc. any suggestions are greatly appreciated

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>Original trilogy
Impeccable, unique and beloved classics we all loved as children. Return to time and time again, always taking away something new. Quotable lines, memorable scenes, and authentic sense of beauty and excitement

- Crying of Lot 49
- V.
- Gravity's Rainbow

>Prequel trilogy
rich and compelling technical effects and expanded backstory (sometimes too expanded). In many respects even more ambitious than original trilogy; in others, the emotion and sense of wonder is severely lacking

- Slow Learner
- Vineland
- Mason & Dixon

>Disney Presents the Sequel Trilogy

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>>10748725
Definitely agree on the Original trilogy. Think V is kind of overrated, but I read GR first and might just need to give it another shot.

Slow learner was just forgettable, the Pynchon style doesn't translate to short stories, Pynchon characterizes almost entirely through incident, and you just can't have enough in a short story. Reading Mason and Dixon now and enjoying it, but not with the burning intensity when I read Lot 49 and GR (his best work and what he will be know for).
Of the sequel trilogy only read Inherent vice and it was godawful, like someone else pretending to be Pynchon. I see why people meme about him being dead, since let's be honest, P's style is pretty easy to imitate, especially if you've been smoking that reefer.
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>>10748725
His essays, reviews, and introductions are the spin-offs
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>>10748725
Slow learner doesn't fit, prequels should be:
>Vineland
>Mason
>Dixon
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>>10748833
Hmmmmmmmmm
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>>10748833
>>10752307
see
>>10748804

ITT: Post books that are incredibly underrated in your opinion.

Pic related:
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men of wealth by john t. flynn sketches history of capitalism since renaissance via profiles of a salient oligarch of each epoch. never seen it mentioned on lit although he's a top writer.
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>>10751175
Was talking about his book Propaganda, faggot
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>>10752002
thinking back, that is true it is from a documentary but that same pattern is present in his writings as well

>someone complaining about "college pseuds" but apparently continuing to post among them.
I stand by that. Way back when we I did those readings and watched that documentary in cass the subsection of the students that bought into his arguments could easily be filtered into such a category and perhaps the category of flakes
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>>10752125
Not him, but https://archive.org/details/Propaganda_201512
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>>10752034
What is it really about?

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How do you write, /lit/? Post an example and tell others if there are changes that need to be made
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Just delete my writing implements
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>>10751515
>No pic
Just autism.
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>>10751660
agreed
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>>10747858 Yes definitely
>>10747861 Absolutely true
>>10747870 Probably relevant to a thread
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>>10748113
>a cri-fleek of pure steezin'
nice
neat handwriting too

What will the first Martian novelists be like?
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>>10752661
>tfw your rocket launches a big last fart of Carbon Monoxide on envirocucks as you flee the surly bounds of Earth
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>>10750901
Probably a lot of Earth nostalgia, ironically enough. Maybe some stuff about large bodies of water.
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>>10752674
>Karl Mars - Alien Nation on Mars
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>>10752674
>>10752686
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>>10752694
Marsism is real



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