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>When the Jews said, "We have [but] one father and that is God," Jesus retorted, "[No), you are of yourfather the Slanderer."
>So I ask, Who and where is this Slanderer? From what act of slander does he get his name?
>"Slanderer" cannot be his birth-name, but a name that comes from something he did.
>Among what race of people did he appear and commit his act of slander?
Well, Christbros? Do we have a response?
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>If a father is wicked, then the sins of the father must not be attributed to his children.
Exodus 20:5
>Who is this Slanderer?
The devil, or διάβολος.
>Where is this Slanderer?
Job 1:7
>From what act of slander does he get his name?
Genesis 3:1-5
>Among what race of people did he appear and commit his act of slander?
Man.
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>>24945570
Satan
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>>24945570
"Slanderer" is just a bad translation of ha-Satan, or Diabolos, more accurately (and typically) rendered The Accuser. Basically, it refers to the Adversary's role as the prosecutor of Mankind in the court of God, as it were. If once you understand this, the entire knot is dissolved; there doesn't need to be an act of slander because that's not the role being described.

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In his 'Lectures on the Mind for Young Samurai', Mishima reflects on being called a nerd for his love of literature during the war.

He argues that today's nerds use literature as a safety zone to hide from the real world.

He distinguishes between two types of literature.

The first, which he calls second-rate, is relatively harmless; it acts as a comforting teacher, offering simple moral lessons and inspiration to those who are struggling, giving hope to the heartbroken, teaching that money isn't everything to the poor, and comforting the weak.

The true danger, he warns, comes from "real" literature. This first-rate writing reveals the frightful fate of humanity and teaches through beautiful and captivating prose "that in this life an irredeemable evil lurks at the bottom of human nature", leading the reader to a nihilistic precipice and abandoning them there without solace.

The greatest problem arises when nerds who consume this powerful literature fall under the illusion that they arrived at its profound conclusions through their own effort.

This creates a false sense of superiority, leading them to become cynics who mock all human effort, sincerity, and passion from a detached and powerless position.

As a writer, Mishima knows this "poison of literature" intimately, and admits that he only found a partial antidote later in life through physical action.

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>>24945258
this
lol
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He is basically saying you need to be mentally ill as a person to be an actual good writer, isn't he?
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>>24944639
>Good literature is supposed to
You are already in error.
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>>24944696
>He was dealing with dudes like Osamu Dazai back in his time.
Must suck to be pseud dealing with actually talented person LMAO
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>>24947151
Too bad no one talented associates with you or else you could tell us about it.

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“Dagon” was one of the first Lovecraft stories I read and is probably one of his more famous, even if the plot is cribbed from Arthur Machen.

It’s got great style:
>“Perhaps I should not hope to convey in mere words the unutterable hideousness that can dwell in absolute silence and barren immensity.”

The audiobook is great if you want to read along:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWnV5vBScD0
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>>24942835
>because he is not gatekept enough.

pretty much. If Lovecraft were more obscure, pseuds would hold a higher opinion of him which they did when he was less widely known. Personally, I think what makes Lovecraft a great writer is his sense of atmosphere, pacing, and influences from Gothicism and New England.
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>>24942931
But all those dream plots were inferior to the Cthulhu plots.
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>>24945950
> plots
this is /lit/ the purpose of fictionalized speech is to pose a theme that is speculative to counterfactual. dream quest is sort of like Job in that its a story about God abandoning a man, cthulhu is just a timed event from deep time
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>>24945940
>pacing
evidently ppl thikk he should of been extra tedious but lovecraft wasnt trying to bore ppl he was tryna warn ppl about the consequences of stoppen goen church he said ok you dont know what gon happen next which is also what the Bible says
thats the real meaning
not wow edgy a racist with a kitteh
thats why its not possible for the world to integrate lovecraft like almost every other historical figure except aquinas oh he asks how many angels dance on the head of a penis and paul was heresy against my bold reading of classical antiquity cross guy
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>>24945223
Are you fellating yourself at the same time?

Barnes & Noble be all like:
>>>YOU SPENT $250 ON BOOKS THIS QUARTER!? CONGRATULATIONS!!! HAVE A FREE $5 COUPON!!! YOU'VE EARNED IT!!!
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>>24938008
Shalom!
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>>24937826
you didnt spend $250, you spent $245. teehee
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>>24941523
ummm, no they’re not. they’re subsidised by tax payers.
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at a shopping mall near me, if you spend a certain amount of money, i think something like $200 or thereabouts, you don't have to pay for the parking, which costs like ~$10
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Blamp

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It is not exactly well known in modern circles but much of Hemingways writing had fetishistic undertones for the sexual fetishes be possessed. It is well known that in most of his novels the main women has some sort of ratchet short haircut. Lady Brett Ashley,Maria and Catherine Barkley all had very intense details on the short hair they had. Further most of his wives had short hair and it was a subject of contention for His first wife Hadley Richardson and a mainstay with his second Pauline. Further the topic of women on male anal stimulation comes up in some of his works but more overt. The garden of Eden book truly is the embodiment of the Hemingway sexuality. Hemingwaybros how do you cope with the great man’s man writer liking women with boy haircuts and getting his buddy tickled. Personally I enjoy it.
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>>24944831
I like cute girls with boy haircuts, too.
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>>24944831
>Hemingwaybros how do you cope with the great man’s man writer liking women with boy haircuts and getting his buddy tickled
Cope? Prostate stimulation is the fetish of only the most patrician straight men.
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>>24944831
looks like ai
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>>24944831
>open up Hemingway novel
>he's self inserting as a cuck again
Bro... please, give me at least one 20th century modernist novel that doesn't involve cuckoldry, please....
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I had the same reaction.

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>tfw Emily Wilson has replaced Albert Cook for the translation Norton Critical Edition uses for the Odyssey
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>Lay it on me mama
>The rap about that mad cat Odysseus
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>Holla @ me bouta fancy nigga
>Thot, holla how dat nigga be missin' 'cuz he finna gonna go
>'cuz he wuz clappin' da cracka crib of Troy
>and where dat nigga went, wut niggaz he holla @, da payne dayum
>dat nigga be in pain in da wutta
>n how dat nigga got da welfare 2 be alive know whattam sayin
>how he got his niggaz back in da hood
>but dem niggaz were 2 wyld to keep at bein clappt', fool niggaz
>dey wuz eatin da sun kang grassdoggos n sheit, and da kang
>wuz like miss me wid dat sheit u aint gettin back in da hood homie
>now thotkang, nigga of Thundercracka
>be tellin da old story fo' rite now
>finna gonna look fo' da begin
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>>24943604
*1967
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>Tell me about that faggot on the boat.
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If you are going for a not very accurate translation, why not use Pope?
He is the best poet by far.

Why did humanity suddenly discover a sense of humor in the 1600s?

Don Q, Sammy Ps diary, confusiones de la confusiones... all have a LOL witty passage or four in there. Prior to this, just about nothing.

Where did this come from all across yurop? When the modern offices bros humor is a collection of Will Ferrell movie references, you have to think there is some comic progenitor or Q source in the 1550s that taught them how to make a witty joke.
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>>24946207
The Zhuangzi is repeatedly hilarious and written in like 300BC. I disagree with your premise. Telling Confucius to fuck off for being a pretentious jackass will never not be funny and "The Useless Tree" telling the carpenter that he doesn't know shit about what makes a good tree or a bad tree is also delightful.

The only problem with that book is you need to be fairly familiar with Daoism, symbolic logic, and for the love of God don't read the footnotes.
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>>24947044
>Printing press lowered the bar so more retards could print their shitty marvel quips
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>>24946859
I'm not saying that no one ever tried to be funny up until the year of our lord 1600, but that no one succeeded.

Cant is famous for being extremely unfun/ny whip with which bong students are flagellated.

Post 1 (one) funny passage and I will recant, post a single no greccoid (if there is a funny its probably coming from there) and i will kowtow as unread.
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>>24946207
>Don Q, Sammy Ps diary, confusiones de la confusiones... all have a LOL witty passage or four in there.
Judging from this passage, you're probably too stupid to appreciate all but the broadest and most obvious humor.
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>>24947177
Nta but you might wanna look at the second post itt.
>Ctrl+ F "shit"
>Second one makes me laugh
>"He cried very little, but beshit himself every hour; for, to speak truly of him, he was wonderly phlegmatic in his posteriors"

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Recommendations for literature on death?
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Partir, c'est mourir un peu moins [To Leave is to Die a Little] by Jacques Sternberg (1958). I can't find any english translation. Try using you favorite translation service:
https://ciudadseva.com/texto/partir-es-morir-un-poco/
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I have a lot of Medieval recs on the subject but I don't think you are going to read them so, never mind!
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>>24943968
No, it's about a resurrection of a supposed god, you fucking moron.
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El Llano en Llamas - Juan Rulfo
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Plato Gorgias Phaedo Phaedrus Republic

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is the field of semiotics captured or no?
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>>24945230
What the hell even is semiotics? Everyone I speak to about seems to give me a slightly different answer.
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>>24945230
I don't know what that is but yes yes it is
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>>24946716
Semiotics as superset of linguistics has three subfields: syntax (in a broader sense than trivium's grammar, that is, a superset of linguistic syntax), semantics and pragamatics. What else have you read?
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>>24945307
Just look into the tripartite semiotics repopularized by C.S. Peirce. It's what used across the sciences. What became POMO semiotics comes from Sausser. The tripartite version comes from Saint Augustine. It was called the Doctrina Signorum for 1,200 years before people forgot about it for about three centuries.

John Deely is a good guy to look at for a history and overview. If you want to see it at work in the sciences Google Terrence Deacon's Towards a Science of Biosemiotics. His Incomplete Nature is good too. Or for a look at physics and philosophy of mind check out Nathan Lyon's Signs in the Dust. Saint Thomas and John Poinsot (John of Saint Thomas) are other big figures here too. Less noticed but still interesting here are Saint Maximus the Confessor and Nicholas of Cusa.
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>>24946549
You did, retard, by characterizing yourself as this, and them as that, without just reading the damn books. The theory is univesal if you're at all insightful

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Extremely repetitive question, but: If I liked pic related a lot, what do I read next? What's similar to these? The Recognitions? The Tunnel?
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>>24940487
Don't give me this faux earnest "they're just books bro" bullshit. We all know he's right.
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>>24940896
>>24941349
>>24946540
Why do you talk about difficulty as if it's a positive?
>it's a book you can reread for the rest of your life
Why would you do that? It sounds like torture. You people are fucking weird.
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>>24946793
Gravity's Rainbow is fun as fuck muh nigguh
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>>24946806
Difficulty IS a positive thing. If there's no challenge, why even bother?
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>>24940842
Are these books actually enjoyable or are they just hard? I read infinite jest, but I barely remember it. DFW is just sad man who writes about sad things with little point but with extremely articulate prose.

So I realised that I don't even know the order of the planets in our solar system. Figured I should at least read SOME book on astronomy. It is however quite hard to separate the wheat from the chaff as it seems that any idiot with access to wikipedia has made a shitty book on the subject.

tl;dr: any recommendations for books on (very) basic astronomy?
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>>24946299
The earth is flat and stationary with a dome.
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>>24946299
Give this a read eventually. It examines the development of astronomy and how and why the Copernican model took hold. It's helpful because it explains what you would see if you were to study the night sky with just your naked eye and no preconceptions.
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>>24946888
/thread
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>>24946299
I like Isaac Asimov's pop astronomy writings if you want light reading instead of proper (math heavy) astronomy

Any tips for being a creative writer on 3 hours of sleep a night? I quit drinking three years ago and I can't sleep more than 3 hours a night unless I get wasted. It's all because of my doctor (picrel) who prescribed me benzos when he knew I was drinking as 12 pack every night. Google him, his name is David Pickar and he was on Oprah
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Learn to write in the dark. Are you sure that heavy use of electronic screens before bed isn't a factor in your staying up late hours?
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>>24947097
He looks jewish
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>>24947125
he is
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>>24947118
Ever since I quit drinking and got a traumatic brain injury at the same time I have been unable to sleep more than three hours a night without alcohol, and I've tried everything people recommend

What do you know about romantic poetry?
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>>24946702
He's retarded, they revived it and expanded it. Poetry only survives in any form today because of them. The modernists made it soulless and inaccessible, effectively killing any substantial audience for it.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89loa,_ou_La_s%C5%93ur_des_anges
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>>24946672
Ok npc
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I'm not a fan
Poetry for me started with Baudelaire

I have an idea for a treatment. It's called "The 12 Tongues of Israel." It's about what happens when the gods finally talk to humanity. Here's how it works

>it lasts one year
>every month, a new message is displayed among the stars
>the stars literally burn out and appear out of nothing in order to create the message
>everyone sees the message in their native language
>for the first time ever, scientists admit there is no possible explanation other than intervention from some kind of higher power

INTRO

A whole bunch of shit goes wrong because the first message is in Arabic and everyone takes that as a sign that Muhammad is the one true prophet and everyone needs to commit jihad, lmaooooo
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>>24946076
>>everyone sees the message in their native language
What about the people whose native language has no conventional written form?
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>>24946076
>Everyone sees the message in their native language
>The first message is in arabic
Whoah...

Do you notice people increasingly using superlative adjectives? I fear that a shift in language towards maximalism will leave less room for nuance in the public discourse.
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>>24946551
maybe the zoomers are all getting into Thomas Carlyle?
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>>24946551
There is a general current in the history of all languages that words with intense meanings get gradually worn out and deflated by overuse and are replaced by other words.


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