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>The red thread of fate (Chinese: 姻緣紅線; pinyin: Yīnyuán hóngxiàn), also referred to as the red thread of marriage, the invisible string theory and other variants, is an East Asian belief originating from Chinese mythology. It is commonly thought of as an invisible red cord around the finger of those that are destined to meet one another in a certain situation, as they are "their one true love".

>According to Chinese legend, the deity in charge of "the red thread" is believed to be Yuè Xià Lǎorén (月下老人), often abbreviated to Yuè Lǎo (月老), the old lunar matchmaker god, who is in charge of marriages. In the original Chinese myth, the thread is tied around both parties' ankles, while in Japanese culture it is bound from a male's thumb to a female's little finger. In modern times, though, it is common across both these cultures to depict the thread being tied around the fingers, often the little finger. The color red in Chinese culture symbolises happiness and it is also prominently featured during Chinese weddings.

>The two people connected by the red thread are destined lovers, regardless of place, time, or circumstances. This magical cord may stretch or tangle, but never break.

Any novels or poems cover this?
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>>24944807
There are more than two billion indians and chinese. Meaning that your true love is likely to be mapped to one of them which makes this a shit theory
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>>24944807
does the chinese tradition actually have our notion of romantic, chivalrous love and courtship, or is this a modern reimagining?
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>>24947504
My favorite Chinese love superstition is that whoever gets splashed by boiling water when placing a live dog into a stew pot is destined for an impassioned love affair.
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Oh how I wish people were fated to find soulmates and live happily ever after. Unfortunately life isn't that kind.
It seems like in many stories fate is something burdensome, but to me, a lack of fate seems much more burdensome. If fate was real then I would have no problem just accepting it and would even welcome the sense of direction it would provide in my life. Instead I am left floundering, given options to create my own destiny but being too weak and indecisive to do so.

>>24945770
That sounds like a wholesome story.

>>24946434
There's nothing saying that the red string is entirely random or probabilistic across every possible partner. People tend to be more compatible with people from their own culture and it would take quite of twist of fate to have someone meet another from outside their general region, even in the age of the internet and international travel. If people were truly destined to end up together like this then most people would still end up with someone from their geographic locality in the same or a similar cultural background.
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>>24944807
Kinda

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Childhood is hating on him
Adulthood is recognize that he was right
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>>24946582
>nta
Yes yes, newfags never follow any rules and are never wrong or incorrect in any occasion. A totally different person.
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>>24946981
>no one seems to respect him just out of his contribution to the discipline
they do, but the discipline is cultural studies, not psychiatry
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>>24946548
>>24946987
I swear, the average IQ on /lit/ is double digits.
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>>24939664
>is recognize

thank you for the thread saar
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>>24946377
I say if there's one thing that's the "key" to Lacan its "Lack". In the sense that a feeling of being incomplete or missing something that everyone else has is central to human experience is the keystone of Lacan's psychoanalysis.

I want to increase my knowledge I never read anything by a female or updike
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what's updike?
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>>24947683
Butterfly would have loved this :(
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>>24947683
WHO ARE YOU CALLING A DIKE
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>>24947680
A&P then Rabbit, Run. Don't bother with the women.

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It is NOT a literary masterpiece. It is, in basically just an overdressed YA novel. Let me, someone who has actually understood the text, break this down for you:

>The core plot
A brooding, special teenager, Hal Incandenza, with parent issues lives in a rigid, hierarchical system, namely the Enfield Tennis Academy. A mysterious, charismatic rebel figure, be it His ghost or the Entertainment itself, threatens the order. A ragtag group of teens, Hal, Orin, Pemulis, must navigate a corrupt adult world to uncover a dark secret that could destroy society. This is essentially Divergent, no?

>Ham fisted Allegory
"O.N.A.N.," "The Concavity/Convexity," "Subsidized Time." These are not subtle political commentaries. They are the same heavy handed, brand name dystopian devices as "Panem" or "The Capitol." It is a cartoony, exaggerated backdrop for teen angst, not a serious philosophical inquiry. DFW merely replaced the Hunger Games with a tennis tournament and a lethal film cartridge.

>The teen protaganist
Hal is the archetypal YA hero. He is unnaturally gifted, emotionally stunted, misunderstood by every adult, and on a quest for identity in a world he did not make. His internal torment is just advanced teen angst. His inability to communicate is peak adolescent alienation dressed up in pseudo intellectual jargon. He is a Holden Caulfield who can quote Wittgenstein.

>The threat
The samizdat is a MacGuffin of pure destruction. "It is so pleasurable it kills you."
This is a YA villain: a single, addictive, monolithic Evil that the adults cannot handle, so the youth must. It is the same as a magic system or a corrupt government, a simple problem with a fantastical, technological cause.


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>>24946857
banned from the sharty for being trans i assume?
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>>24947519
>>24947557
You're both pseuds. Stop posting.
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>>24947607
well the important thing is that you found a way to feel superior to both anons while also refraining from risking anything by posting thoughts of your own.
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>>24947557
1. Hal and probably Orin, know the location of the master, but we have nothing to suggest within the story that either even know of it or care about it, just the allusion that Hal finds out about it and starts to care about it during the omitted year. Pemulis does not care in the slightest.
2. Support it and address what I said instead of just saying "I am right, you are wrong."
3. He doesn't perform unnaturally, it is the very natural result of what happens when you spend a decade myopically fixating on two things. Also, you ignored the points about his failing in everything else, he can barely get through algebra. His essay we get to read is laughably bad and purely a demonstration of his knowledge of words, completely dances around the essay's topic. Hal is not gifted.
4. That is just the literal plot level handouts, you failed to identify what it is. What makes it so compelling?
5. Those are not themes, they are contexts demonstrating and exploring theme, hence my pointing out that you need to reconcile them all.
6. Pretty much the previous answer again.
7. There is nothing ambiguous about the ending and the only way a hero could solve the problems the book deals with is by killing off most of the world so we can start over.
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>>24947557
>4.It’s a film so perfectly entertaining it catalyzes complete catatonic bliss, rendering the viewer a useless, addicted husky. This is not a complex philosophical object.
Fucking kek. Did you really think that is what he was asking?

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Man, you're right, Aristotleanon. Christian apologists are the worst when it comes to anally raping the Aristotelian corpus beyond recognition. They don't fucking understand anything. They don't understand dunamis, they don't understand energeia, they don't understand Metaphysics Zeta, they don't understand syllogisms, and they definitely do not understand the four causes.

I just had apologist tell me, definitively, that Palamas was a top scholar of Aristotle (lmfao), and that De Anima isn't about life at all, since according to Palamas, only human beings have life because you somehow need "intelligence" to be "self-subsistent" (fucking LOL). Even when you read Aquinas's commentary on passages like the controversial active intellect, you can see him at pains to make the active intellect cohere with the passive intellect into one united soul. And then he fails to do so. But then magically says "but it has to be the case, and so it is." I ask another apologist, is an intellect which becomes everything, something which changes or otherwise remains as it is? And obviously, they short-circuit. Because obviously, that's the kind of intellect that we have, and it can't be active in any pure sense. So Aquinas is wrong and our intellects are perishable in the sense that it is soul. Oh the horror!!!

These fucks have absolutely destroyed Peripatetic commentary throughout history, and they polluted literally everything, especially the translations, with the most hamfisted articulations possible to the point where intelligent conversations with them are not possible. Their brains are wrapped in verbal poison. If you ever get caught up in it, you basically have to spend years unlearning Scholastic hackery as it pertains to the deepest parts of the Aristotelian thought to even have a CHANCE at beginning to understand its depths.
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>>24947178
Anon, you're right that most commentators sought to repurpose Aristotle for their own projects. But it's another thing entirely for people to *not be aware* that they're diverging from Aristotle, and to not recognize that there are problems from diverging from the implied Aristotelian position, partisan solutions that are even worse than the aporias suggested by the original position. To treat everything as if it were all tightly-wrapped in a bow from Aristotle to Aquinas to fucking Palamas is just insanity to me.

>>24947186
I don't feel the direct impact of Middle Platonists, Arabs, and Jews on the vocabulary and thought-patterns utilized by Christian sophists. So it doesn't bother me so much.

>>24947202
Palamas:
>The soul of each animal not imbued with intelligence is the life of the body that it animates; it does not possess life as essence, but as activity, since here life is relative and not something in itself. Indeed, the soul of animals consists of nothing except that which is actuated by the body. Thus when the body dissolves, the soul inevitably dissolves as well. Their soul is no less mortal than their body, since everything that it is relates and refers to what is mortal. So when the body dies the soul also dies. (Topics of Natural and Theological Science and on the Moral and Ascetic Life: One Hundred and Fifty Texts, 31)
What am I supposed to make of that? This is abysmal, perhaps even retarded, especially if we're supposed to take this as some kind of Aristotelian commentary. If it's something different, then fine, be my guest, but this is like taking the entirety of Book II of De Anima and throwing it into the furnace. And even on those merits, it is bad, because nothing is truly self-subsistent except for God if we're going to play that game.
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>>24947161
As opposed to our brilliant era of "telos as a strongly emergent physical property" or a mere catagorical and an "Aristotleian" philosophy built solely off a few parts of the Ethics?

Anyhow, what is your objection. Do you think Averoese got it more right? I'ma side with Plato here either way (and thus I guess with Palamas).
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>>24947223
First, you're presenting a strawman caricature. If anything, the tendency in the East is to underemphasize the influence of Pagan thought.

Second, the Middle Platonists and Islamics profoundly shaped the reception of Aristotle in the West, so they definitely shape discourse up to this day. Indeed, a key reason why the Orthodox read Aristotle so differently is precisely because Islamic/Jewish thought had a far deeper influence on Scholastic thought. In the high scholastic period Aristotle was just "the Philosopher" but Avicenna was also "the Commentator."

>What am I supposed to make of that?
That animals don't have a nous or immortal soul. In context, this is explained in terms of different ways of participating in the divine energies.
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Saint Gregory the Theologian addresses this in a poem.
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Just wanted to say I'm proud of you lot. I can tell many of you have actually been reading books this year. Warmest congratulations to everyone who read books this year and coldest execration to those who did not.
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>>24944124
I think those are called Caketomotrists.
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>>24944109
I also keep telling myself that having a job is not worth selling my soul. Really hope I don't end up killing myself at some point though
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I actually rarely read and only come on here to see discussions about the latest talking head videos of which I don't understand a good portion of most of the subjects or even the language used, especially when it comes to politics *accepts your praise anyway and sits with everyone at the reward banquet table*
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>>24943077
where are my candles? i want a candle for every book i read this year
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>>24943077
I read 30 or about 10,000 pages, just slightly less than last year. Mostly novels.

>it's literally just smut
Why do pseuds love Batallie so much again?
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>>24942746
i can smell your leaky clitty
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>>24941974
>But story of the eye is pretty much only smut
It's also deeply sacrilegious.
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>>24941966
because it's smut
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>>24944633
You're unironically validating Bataille’s entire project while thinking you're dunking on him. You're completely missing that he literally defines coherence as servitude because he's not trying to build a system, he's burning the library down from the inside specifically to filter midwits who need a "lantern of coherent thought" to feel safe. He's wearing the scholar mask to rot the institution of reason with filth. And complaining about pseuds getting lost in the fog is hilarious because Bataille explicitly wrote for those who would misunderstand him. Opacity is the removal of the safety rails so you can experience actual expenditure. You didn't expose a fraud, you just admitted you can't handle a fire that doesn't exist to keep you warm.
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>>24944942
...hot

Ἁλικαρνασσόθεν edition

>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·
>>24877858

>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·
https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw

>Mέγα τὸ ANE·
https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg

>Work in progress FAQ
https://rentry dot co/n8nrko

All Classical languages are welcome.
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>>24946361
>having too many goals is indeed debilitating, I know that feel
my peen has been a bigger motivator to learn languages than any classic (aside from Greek stuff)
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>>24945805
motivation is fleeting and hollow, you’re never going to accomplish what you want until you develop discipline
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>>24946616
solid reminder
thanks anon
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Anyone start out memorizing all principal parts of the Greek verbs in Anki before studying their specific grammar? I hope this pays off well because it is tough with the irregularities, finding the paradigms, etc. wiktionary is somewhat messy in this regard. I got a very high grasp of the overall Greek verb structure though and it is pretty cool. There is a,so this iPhone app called Hoi Polloi Logioi which is good for drilling verb conjugations
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>>24947398
doing Athenaze's decks I preferred to keep it in line with the grammar seen up to that point so earlier verbs have only present, then there's some verbs with present, aorist first person, and then eventually all principal parts
but at the end of the day those verbs were in the first chapters because they are common thus one will meet principal parts often anyway by reading

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Read C.S. Lewis' nonfiction.
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The Ransom Trilogy is a sci-fi series, of which the oft recommended That Hideous Strength is the third and final book
The Pilgrim's Regress is a take on Bunyan's famous The Pilgrim's Progress
The Screwtape Letter's is an epistolary novel about a demon mentoring a younger demon
The Great Divorce is about a bus-trip from hell
Til We Have Faces is a Christianized version of the myths of Cupid and Psyche

and of course the most famous are the children's Narnia books.
The Ransom Trilogy (sometimes called the Space, or Cosmic, trilogy) is my favorite, though it doesn't get very theological until the 2nd book. Notable for its medieval cosmological view applied to a novel on space travel.
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>>24947599
Oh, I thought OP said fiction. Oh well, read the fiction, too.

Mere Christianity is the best introduction to his non-fiction works, and probably the most famous.
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>>24947032
He was a conservative Anglican. Church of England, before they went totally gay. He is admired by Protestants and Catholics alike, he's not really a theologian, and doesn't get into denominational controversies in his writing, but sticks to fundamental Christian truths. Read him, he's not going to yabber on about Marian dogma or anything. He's very popular among Anglicans, Catholics, Reformed Baptists, Presbyterians, etc.
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No. I will read HG Wells nonfiction instead.
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>>24947629
is his history of the world any good?

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Who's up for a good ol' fashioned stack/recent cops thread?
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>>24946918
Doesn't matter. The fact that you picked up both strongly suggests that you haven't developed a discerning intuitive sense of quality and/or a proper filter for recommendations, both being necessary components of taste.
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>>24946935
Yeah bro, I don't actively browse this board everyday unlike you.
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Stack for december/january...I won't actually read GR it's there just to show I'm really cool
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>>24940199
hopefully not. it's peak consoom behavior.
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>>24947588
What is?

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this is a midwit book isnt it...

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Can developing the habit of reading heal my brain from years of doomscrolling, porn addiction and isolation that deleted my attention span, memory and gave me a costant brainfog?
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>>24947194
Yeah, I do, too. I grow tomatoes. You know how much time, effort, money and SPACE, it would take to grow even HALF of your fruit and vegetable intake? Get real.
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>>24938406
beer
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>>24947194
Ignore that idiot. Typical dilettante.

Growing your own food, homesteading, that's the way to go.
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>>24947307
isn't that stretching the definition of invention or a technology? I mean, is pasta an invention?
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>>24942492
i know what you mean. I chalk a lot of it up to people navigating to the same platforms. A lot of info is hidden behind discord servers, everybody just uses reddit instead of forums etc. Back in the day chatting on AIM/IRC, downloading flacs off oink, and clicking stumbleupon for hours was genuinely so fun that I've pretty much set up my life to be downtime = computer. The past few years though, it seems to have gotten pretty monotonous and I'm not even really enjoying it anymore. Google has been completely destroyed as a useful search engine and just shows you the same 5 websites, most people making any kind of content posts their stuff to social media which is brain numbing to navigate, and now AI is further thinning out the useful shit I'm able to find. I took years off of 4chan, I was addicted from like 07-19 and stopped coming entirely until a few months ago, but I'm back now because this place actually feels like a real fucking website.

stop using the youtube home page, instead make a bookmark for your subscribed page and scroll that instead. Instead of googling shit, use yandex, kagi, or something fun like marginalia. Don't ever go to social media unless it's for messaging friends or watching something somebody sent you directly. Install an IRC client and find some rooms to hang out in. Head on over to >>>/g/ and look through the desktop threads and get into linux and rice your shit. Use soulseek and the built-in chats for listening to music instead of spotify/apple, get a last.fm and RYM profile. Absolutely never scroll any feed anywhere. There's shit you can do to make using a computer fun again, but it's gonna take some self-restraint.

Above all else, get some books and set aside some amount of time for reading everyday.

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Any serious book that talks about the cult of ugliness of the modern world? The toxic positivity, the cacophony of clashing aesthetics, the laziness, and the deliberate effort to undermine purity, all masked by so-called moral virtues or freedom?
Looking at any vintage photo of a poor street, you see beauty in its uniformity -- much like the beauty found in a military parade. Yet now, even in the wealthiest streets, the only remaining beauty of the modern world can be found by gazing up at buildings that were constructed centuries ago, and that are all getting replaced.
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>>24946756
Left's face is extraterrestrial but you can tell her body is prime breeding material. Right looks 12 years old.
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>>24947391
It was very much deliberate. I just ctrl+f real quick on wikipedia and took the first sentence:
>Modernist architects and designers, such as Frank Lloyd Wright[98] and Le Corbusier,[99] believed that new technology rendered old styles of building obsolete. Le Corbusier thought that buildings should function as "machines for living in", analogous to cars, which he saw as machines for traveling in.[100] Just as cars had replaced the horse, so modernist design should reject the old styles and structures inherited from Ancient Greece or the Middle Ages. Following this machine aesthetic, modernist designers typically rejected decorative motifs in design, preferring to emphasize the materials used and pure geometrical forms.[101]
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>>24947391
>as tecnology improves bluidings become worse

I do like modern bluidings for what they are , but part of it , for me is to not be blind to its objective flaws , why people like OP don't like them.

OP , is still for me a little bit childish , but I see no reason why your form of blind shame into conformity would actually help her.

I do think , modernity has a very interesting and unique form of trancendental beuty , but sometimes it feels like you guys could be going to work in cars of shit , with clothes of shit with houses of shit , all while eating that same shit , for 3 billion dollars the hour . and you will still defend it , with all your vigor.
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>>24946559
Call me a zoomer but I'd rather have sex with the girl on the left.
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>>24946559
>centuries ago
Anon... Your sense of time is completely out of whack.

2025 is almost over. What's the best book you read this year?
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>>24947281
You've all read the best book to be released in 2025 haven't you?
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Read through Animal Farm. Short and sweet, but I really enjoyed it. Beats you over the head with its moral, but, through a purely technical lens, I really enjoyed seeing Orwell epitomize what a novel should be.

Also read Dune and I felt similarly about it. It was the first book I read after getting through nearly all of Moorcock's Elric, though, so maybe I was just relieved to break the monotony.
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wiseguy
wuthering heights
solaris
faust (part one)
come as you are: the story of nirvana
no country for old men
crime and punishment
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Suttree
Cien años de soledad (re-read)
El Jinete Polaco
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Colas Breugnon -best one overall.
The adventures of Tom Sawyer - funniest book and funniest scene I've ever read.

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>Just as the formation of the nation necessitated coded language and purposeful restriction to deal with disingenuousness and moral frailty at its heart, so too did the literature, whose founding characteristics extend into the twentieth century, reproduce the necessity for codes and restriction. Through significant and underscored omissions, startling contradictions, heavily nuanced conflicts, through the way writers peopled their work with the signs and bodies of this presence–one can see that a real or fabricated Africanist presence was crucial to their sense of Americanness. And it shows.
Now that the dust has settled is it time to admit she was right
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>>24947586
She's clearly just shoved Edward Said's notion of orientalism into American race issues and it doesn't fit.
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>>24947592
reductive chud bait, 1/10


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