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>Self-help books don't do anything! It's all placebo!
Bro, it's called "self" help and "self" development. They're not supposed to do the actual work for you. They're supposed to reorient you in the right direction so you can then go do it yourself.
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Comfiest self help book
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>>23302876
you don't need any book for that type of shallow self-development. it's a deep illusion and cope.
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Obesity Code and Simple Path to Wealth were pretty good. Deep Work was literally just don't be distracted lol. 12 week year is useful and has been helpful for planning but just spark notes that shit, it's boring and padded to hell and back. Everything else has just been multiple shades of mediocre.
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>>23302876
if they work for you, then they are good. if you are stuck in a rut sometimes you just need someone to encourage you, and it's kind of a blessing that this can happen through a book. a good plan is better than no plan, and sometimes you just need some kind of framework to get you going.
greek philosophy was in part the self-help of it's day, unironically.

i read one of these kinds of books when i was young. if i went back and read it, it probably was all bullshit. but it opened up my thinking that it was possible to achieve things and go far in life. this was not something i really comprehended before that. i grew up only seeing people who failed to achieve anything, what else could i expect from myself?
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>>23304237
I think motivational shit is useful especially if you're trying to break the cycle of past family failings. It's the manipulative boss bitch trash that you have to watch out for. Sadly it's the vast majority of self help books.

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Hi, some friends and I whom trade shitcoins have made a book club on Telegram, if anyone wants to join.

t(dot)me/+qG03uJugbnc1NGJh
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>>23302255
any actual info about it?
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>>23303291
Just some chill people reading books with good stories and good info. Nothing too serious yet nothing low-brow; we're not going to be reading anything hardcore like Hegel or normie af current NY Times bestseller shit.

Check us out, and if you don't like it, just dip out.

We're deciding on the first book tonight!
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One more bump, and I'm letting it die.
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Why telegram?
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>>23304482
Only social media platform where you can be racist

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It's dark. But there's still a light at the end of the tunnel-although very dim. Hard to achieve such a dance between complete desolation and the strive to push forward despite the odds. One of the greatest works of English-language literature. The Great American Novel. No book better encapsulates this nation.

I rate 5/5. Has become my favorite novel.
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>>23304502
/lit/ will shit on this book until the end of time because they had to read it in school. truly is an incredible novel, though. I also love East of Eden, but I feel like a lot of people only claim it as their favorite Steinbeck in order to avoid saying Grapes of Wrath.

What did I think of it?
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>>23302607
You hate it because your average euro-Brit feminist lit fic reading midwit that's never read sci-fi in their life loves it
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>>23302678
That's a shame, I really liked remains of the day and the artist in the floating world and was hoping that he may have an interesting take
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>>23302607
You liked it, Klara is cute and endearing, the story is bittersweet and the world is well-built.

The stakes of the story are low but because of that it's also more poignant and personal.
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>>23302607
You really would expect something a tad more sophisticated on AI from a supposed Nobel winner
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I've only read Never Let Me Go and loved it, but what's so great about it is its simplicity and refusal to delve directly into the greater concept of clones being raised for harvest, it's all about the actual characters themselves and their naive views and upbringing. You get a very nice narrative of Kathy and the other Carers essentially propping up this system enslaving and slaughtering themselves, seen well in the part where Tommy is asking her exactly what happens with the final procedure and she makes it out that it's maybe possible to survive even though she's been a carer for like a decade by that point and she and the reader knows with near certainty that probably no one has ever survived even without being told, showing how she's lying to both Tommy and herself. It's a novel with great subtext.
HOWEVER, I think that works really well in this story because it involves kids who are brought up in this preppy, semi-elitist school, so they feel privileged among the other clones despite still being literal cattle and put up all these defence mechanisms to deny their actual, terrible fate. You're dealing with the weirdness of human beliefs and living, and I think it works well, whereas the problem with Klara and the Sun seems to be taking Ishiguro's stuff and putting it into a robot, and stuff in Never Let Me Go wouldn't work like that because a robot simply doesn't possess human attributes like I've been describing.
Most of the criticism in this thread so far and what I've heard in real life about Klara and the Sunis basically that it's a very simplistic and superficial take on robots and AI, it's definitely heavy sci-fi readers who detest it the most. Seems to me it's mostly an error in concept.

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Thoughts on our greatest living poet?
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>>23303363
I swear to God I will never understand the cult surrounding her. The majority of her music is boilerplate Tumblr musings and generic pop garbage. Her PR team must be full of psychics or something. Even the mainstream press will lavish her garbage with praise and adoration
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>>23303131
Honestly, why are women like this? They start an "art" page where they post their childish doodles and suddenly figure themselves as a serious artist.
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>>23303374
It’s a mass hysteria event. She’s such a middling talent. I can understand why girls like her but for the critics to give her immense praise is insane
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>>23303389
critics do it for money. more clicks, more ads.
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>>23303089

I just saw multiple displays in Target's front end, with various versions of vinyl and CD (an archiac format!) I said aloud to myself, man the jews, the CIA, the whole establishment really are pushing her.

Post cool scientific books on nature and animals

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`'The will to truth, which will seduce us to some hazardious acts, this famous truthfullness of which all philosopher have talked with awe untill now: What questions has this will to truth ask us already? What marvellous, bad, questionable questions! This is already a long story, - and though, it seems, that this story has hardly begone yet? Is it a wonder, if we become evnetuelly once suspect, lost our patience, turn us around eagerly around? That we learn finally to questioned ourselfs from this Sphinx? Who is it actaully who ask us the question? What in ourselfs want actually "to truth"? - Indeed, we avoid long the questions of the cause of our own will, - untill we, eventuelly, make hold in front of a more regid questions full and entirely. What is the worth of this will. Let us takt it for granded, we want the truth: Why not rather untruth? And uncertainty? - The issue of the worth of the truth appear in front of us, - or was it our step, which bring us to this issue? Who of us is OEDIPUS here? Who Sphinx? Its a quick change, as it seems, of questions and questionmarks - and should one believe that it want uns make think that his issue was never posened before? As it would from us been seen the first time, taken into our eyes, dared? As there is a hazard within this issue, and, maybe, there is no greater one.'´
Nietzsche, first aphorism of "Beyond Good and Evil"
Translated by Anonymous
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>>23304459
What did he mean by this?
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>>23304469

There is something in the human psyche, a "will to truth". (NOT WILL TO POWER)
This something drive us to ask more and more questions. Some of this questions are dangerous.
Now (in the 19 Century), we humans start to ask ourselfs: Why do we even care for truth? What is it, that has drived us?

And, eventuelly, has this truth any real value?

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What is the greatest novel you've ever read? The one that completely blew you away. I want to read it. Tell me why it's amazing.
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The diaries of certain men read better than any novel. Just finished reading, I think it was, 3 years in the cavalry, the diary of a random dude that joined up with the North in the US civil war.
Far more interesting and a better story than basically anything.
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>>23295394
>verification not required
>captcha: 8JST
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>>23295394
There is no one champ. There are a handful that form a kind of family. War and Peace, Anna Karenina, The Brothers Karamazov, Moby Dick, The Magic Mountain, The Man Without Qualities. They're marked by immense craft and scope, but also, and perhaps mostly by immense ambition. Books as different as Atlas Shrugged. Infinite Joy and Lolita miss the mark, Atlas because it has the ambition but not the craft, Lolita because it has the craft but the object treated is so shabby and marginal.
Also, there's a big difference between 'the greatest' and 'personal favorites.' I love Zazen, a novel by Vanessa Veselka that no one seems ever to have read, and it's very good, but is it comparable to War and Peace? Very very few books are.
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>>23295394
I’m working on it.
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>>23295394
I don't think I have a book that has completely blown me away. I somewhat liked the book nausea though. I would say the stranger but I didn't really get the book, it doesn't make sense for him to kill the guy, the sun isnt a good reason...

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Not talking about the money, but the attitude. I know there's luck and inheritance involved, but that can't be the only reason, if it is, a lot of rich nepo kids would be billionaires.
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>>23303765
the four*
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>>23302219
Which one?
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>>23301225
I read somewhere that he reads one book a week. he had a reading list that was all the typical
>I’ll look smart reading this on the plane
stuff.
not looking it up.
inb4
>lmao you’re saying you’re smarter than Bill heckin Gates!!??
no. he has his domains of genius and otherwise seems like a midwit.
I, on the other hand, have no domain of genius.
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>>23304410
nta btw
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>>23301192
i think you have to be born a reptilian to be a reptilian.

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Jonathan Lethem, Pynchon, Saunders, Rushdie, DeLillo, Murakami, Houellebecq? Is everyone else dead?
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>>23301108
is wellbeck done writing? I heard he said antelier or whatever was his last novel
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I am enjoying this way more than I expected to.
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>>23301117
take a seat anon, I have some tough news...
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>>23303457
he should probably stop, 70 is old af and if pynchon and McArtthy are any indication, authors lose their edge in old age and hourllebecqs main appeal is his edge.
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It's still Marilynne Robinson and has been for years

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Who's the Ian Curtis of literature?
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>I've wating for a guy to come and take me by the hand
>Could these sensations make me feel the pleasure of another man?
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>>23303641
Didn't Tony Curtis compare him to Keats?
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>>23304294
Guide.
Guide!
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>>23303641
Robert E Howard
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Heminggway

Books on why society is tolerant and encouraging of homosexual rape?
If all sexualities are equally valid and accepted, why is homesexual rape good but heterosexual rape bad?
Is it because normies are retarded cattle?
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>>23304222
>tolerant and encouraging
>homesexual rape good

No one thinks this.
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>>23304327
Literally everyone except me thinks this. They think prison rape is funny and laugh about it.
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>>23304331
You seem to be suffering from autism.
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>>23304344
I'm tired of people saying this. What's even your point?
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>>23304309
Anon, few people in our unenlightened age see the humanity in what you say, but I agree.
Imprisoning people doesn't help them become better people, nor prevent their doing lasting harm to society, but it does steal only the good parts of their life. People act like it's more humane than corporal punishment, or like it's different because you can release them later, but you can't give back their wasted time and suffering. They really just like that they don't have to see it happen.
Justice, to be justice, has to be clear and decisive.

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Is synthetic a priori possible?
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>>23303211
Are analytic a posterior judgements possible
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>>23303208
That's what the subconscious is for.
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>>23303208
synthetic a priori is not possible
analytic a posteriori is a way to approach
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synthetic a priori < analytic a posteriori < pathetic a shitposteriori
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>>23303531
>analytic a-posteriori
Retard moment

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Would you still love me if I were a worm, /lit/?
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Sure, babe.

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I read a play that had "angels" in the name. It was set in a school setting, and there seemed to be a sort of regime, but that is all I can remember, so I would like to ask if anybody knows of the name of this play and can link it.

Thank you


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