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So it seems that Ulysses and Finnegans Wake are unreadable to normal people.
But what about Dubliners and A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man ?

Also, general James Joyce thread, tell me what do you like in his work etc
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>>25089651
>I can't take this shit seriously
Skill issue
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>>25089806
Just rolls off the tounge
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>>25089477
I wish I could have hung out with the Lost Generation in Paris. They seemed like a blast.
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>>25089651
kino. stay filtered, brainlets
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>>25089477
literally stephen deadalus meeting bloom irl

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>is le sad pessimist
>likes to sit alone and think nonstop about shit no one cares about
>dude life sucks
do pessimists really? Nietzsche was right baout these people
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>>25090174
even without being a pessimist that statement is 100% true. It's not so much being a pessimist that makes you "like to sit alone" and "think nonstop about shit no one cares about". If you are in any way sensible and smart, even as a very young kid, you will begin very quickly to be saddened by how slow, intellectually unstimulating and incapable of keeping up with you everyone else is. This is how you end up alone, thinking nonstop about shit no one cares about. It's not like you chose this, it just becomes saddening to talk to other people and see that they can't keep up - neither with the intensity, the depth or the quickness you have.
And mind: you don't have to be surrounded by anyone particularly stupid to experience this. If anything, stupid people can sometime be creatively stupid and are entertaining to be around, in that they at least don't think like everybody else. It's average people, i.e. the vast majority, who will wear you out. Being constantly surruounded by people who are fast enough to function but always a little to slow to catch up with whatever you're on will make you melancholic with time. You will keep giving the same advice, seeing people commit the same mistakes, go through the same arguments tens of times with different people, all the while listening to them explaining things to you, often well meaning, at 0.5x your speed and in ways that are completely uneffective - sometimes forcing you to dig out the actual meaning of what they wanted, which could have been said in one or two sentences, if they knew how to properly express themselves.
Do you know the feeling of talking to old people and the sadness and impatience you feel sometimes when you see them struggle cognitively? A smart person experiences this with almost everybody else from day one of their lives. I have memories of kindergarten of drawing with other kids and seeing them unable to do things as well as I did, or of playing with them and seeing them move their hands in way that already at that age I could register as lacking coordination and grace. It's not like they can't do things: they can. Just never on your level.
After a while (I'm in my thirties) you really find yourself struggling to find an interlocutor. You talk to people and feel very lonely. I wasn't born sad, btw, I was a very cheerful kid, I have a social life and I've had several relationships. It's just, if you're even slightly above average in anything or different from others, it takes a toll on you in the long run.
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>>25090174
nietzsche didn't disagree with this quote, he just disagreed that life had too much suffering to be worth enduring. nietzsche fucking hated the masses kek
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I have no life and no friends and no gf. By this I know: I am a superior man

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Blood meridian is actually a satire on the Trump administration and pro mass immigration, the Glanton gang is supposed to represent ICE and Judge Holden is a metaphor for white supremacy o algo
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>>25088608
Troonist critiques are actually like this
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>not McSharty
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>>25089835
nusoicacas are stupid
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>WHITE MEN ARE LE BAD AGAIN, OKAY
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sharty culture was funny until i realized it was a plot to mobilize thousands of obese brown wignats for the purpose grooming western children into joining O9A via decentralized telegram networks run by the mossad

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What do you think of this book? So thats how its like having a gf?
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I don't bitchterature
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>>25086269
to what degree one can single out rooney for this is questionable to me. i can't think of a single contemporary author who succeeds in this regard. say what you will about fisher (lol) but at least within literature today there is no radical imaginary that doesn't end with cataclysm. sure, rooney is a good example, but that's only because the problem is one endemic to "culture" today. even philosophically: habermas, not sure why he comes to mind, has a problem parallel to rooney's. i'm not sure what the solution is, barring a new, sincere political vision of the future.
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>>25083006
Female authors are not well known for their realism or honesty. I doubt anything this foid wrote would teach you anything about relationships.
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>>25088705
people can enjoy two things at once anon

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How would one start a publishing house in two-thousand-twenty-six? Is it even possible to compete against the "big five" or is there still a chance for the little guy
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>>25086258
I'll write some in your honor when I next visit a toilet stall, how's that?
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On that note, indie music publishing is booming, granted it's a bigger market, but if their success is any indication, then the future looks good.
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>>25085968
You made me check this publisher's website and their marketing strategy is making me physically ill
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>>25089980
It's by and for women, and women run the world anon.
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I'll invest my life savings in your publishing house if you vow to never use shitty laminated cover stock that peels after 2 weeks of handling.

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Recommend more zoomer books like this. The kinds with the lingo.

Saw this recommended on some obscure imageboard, and I realised I saw a thread of the author here just this week. Then I connected I've seen her being posted before that too. As an ESLcel I found the audiobook to be a very cool contemporary piece, and I would love to "read" more like it. I'm doing a bit of the same type of writing myself.
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>>25087250
Who's gonna be the guy version of honor levy?
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>>25088975
Yes but being lame and gay like you is eternal
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>>25087250
HONOR CAN YOU WRITE MY SECOND BOOK ALREADY, BITCH
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>>25089955
Angelicism01
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>>25087441
>A Tree Grows in Brooklyn
>Zoomer lit
??????????

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I am a lot smarter than the people I interact with. Even among highly intelligent groups, most of them are stupid. What this feels like is that everyone I talk to seems fucking retarded. Day in and day out, it's just retards. Retards online, retards in person, retards on the phone, fucking retards everywhere. Everything is run and decided by retards. I have to listen to retards, pretend their retarded ideas are good, and pretend to be retarded myself, just to interact with the world. The natural reaction is withdrawing socially, but that won't save you when most everything is written and created by retards. Imagine if your entire life was a special ed classroom. Except the teacher is special ed too, and the desks were made by special ed retards, and the entire curriculum was written by a retard. That's what it feels like.

It's just immensely tiring and frustrating. I don't know if I can handle it any more. Books for this? No Schopenhauer.

>erm calling yourself intelligent is hecking cringe o algo
Shut the fuck up you stupid fucking pseud. I'm tired of you fucking animals.
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>>25089953
I hate to go outside of designated threads but have you considered picking up the pāli suttas? I say this on account of what I am perceiving to be a legitimate intense discontent, i.e, not just something with the external world, the other, as the source. In any case, if you're actually intelligent, I trust that the scope could not exceed the subject.
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>>25089953
>Imagine if your entire life was a special ed classroom. Except the teacher is special ed too, and the desks were made by special ed retards, and the entire curriculum was written by a retard.
Try your hand at writing. Seeing as you lack talent for it, you might relate more to the "retards" out there.
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>>25089993
>tired of being forced to interact with retards? Don’t want to dumb down your language or ideas so retards can understand them?
>you should write an entire book for those retards to read!!!!
This is what I mean. The retard lashes out in anger.
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>>25089953
Go ask ChatGPT. This board is not your psychologist
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>>25089953
>shartycuck calling others retarded
You laugh at poorly-drawn men. Go ask your friends on the sharty.

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>Makes a video to talk about the process of accepting rejection from his dream PhD program.
>Spends the first five minutes or so talking about how high his grades were, how excellent his thesis was, how incredible the letters of recommendation he received for his application were, the amazing network of influence he was able to develop thanks to his YouTube channel to get the support he needed to be accepted into the program, and in general how exceptional and solid his "credentials" are.
>Gets rejected anyway.
>"Yeah dude like they just didn't have enough money to accept me dude like it has nothing like to do with me or my research proposal dude like I wasn't supposed to get in dude like I actually just want to make Youtube videos dude but like anyway I'm gonna like apply next year dude like I don't care to get in like the university of my dreams dude like academy is for losers dude but like I'm gonna do it anyway dude but like I just really don't care dude..."

Midwits are so funny, man.
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>>25085661
fpbp
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>>25086632
>every queenslander i met had mental problems. without exception.
You're a neurotic fag who tries to armchair psych everyone to feel in control. Of course QLD cunts hated you. They knew you were a poof right away.
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>muh cuckbourne
>muh pissbin
>muh shitney
citycucks are a scourge
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>>25087606
lol this is such cope. indonesia is already a bigger economy than australia with 300 million people, one of the only countries in the world that is able to feed itself with its own food production and is rich in energy and minerals. And get this, as huge as it is, its growth is just starting. aus is sooo fucked hahah
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>>25089852
Mad much? Aussies are top 15 in GDP per capita, about 30 times ahead of Indonesia. It's a muslim shithole with no education, no infrastructure, trash and mental pajeets everywhere in the street. Get real, it is nobody's dream to emigrate to Indonesia to study or live. The only immigration you receive are poor, underqualified aliens from shittier places nearby that can't make it to the the first world.

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This is just romantasy for guys...
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>>25089050
Conan is legit good just divorce yourself from your modern lens and enjoy it for what it is if possible
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>>25087463
If for guys just means "no romance" why call it "romantasy"?
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>>25089050
I wouldn't call conan a murder everybody, but he does live in a pretty brutal world.
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>>25089050
>Why are we even in this brutalass hell world?
Because back during the dawn of humanity all the pacific tribes got wiped out the by the warlike tribes
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>>25089081
I find it interesting how many people who never read Conan think it's somehow bad by default. In fact, after you read GOOD pulps like Conan you'll realize exactly just how hopelessly bloated fantasy novels in general are.

Shakespeare's Roman plays are underrated. They're all absolute masterpieces. In particular I think Antony & Cleopatra is super underrated these days.
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>>25089473
I actually have Marc Antony's funeral oration memorized. Have since high school.
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>>25089462
>The highest praise, or rather form of praise, of this play, which I can offer in my own mind, is the doubt which the perusal always occasions in me, whether the Antony and Cleopatra is not, in all exhibitions of a giant power in its strength and vigour of maturity, a formidable rival of Macbeth, Lear, Hamlet, and Othello. Feliciter audax is the motto for its style comparatively with that of Shakspeare's other works, even as it is the general motto of all his works compared with those of other poets.

>Of all Shakspeare's historical plays, Antony and Cleopatra is by far the most wonderful. There is not one in which he has followed history so minutely, and yet there are few in which he impresses the notion of angelic strength so much;—perhaps none in which he impresses it more strongly. This is greatly owing to the manner in which the fiery force is sustained throughout, and to the numerous momentary flashes of nature counteracting the historic abstraction. As a wonderful specimen of the way in which Shakspeare lives up to the very end of this play, read the last part of the concluding scene. And if you would feel the judgment as well as the genius of Shakspeare in your heart's core, compare this astonishing drama with Dryden's All For Love.
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>>25089473
what about the tragedy of coriolanus, cymbeline and titus adronicus, ive never even heard them mentioned before
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>>25089582
>coriolanus
10/10, one of Shakespeare's greatest.

>cymbeline
Would be a 10/10 were the story not a total mess. Definitely symptomatic of the general weirdness that prevents Shakespeare's later plays from being as popular as his most well known (e.g. Hamlet, Much Ado About Nothing, Julius Caesar, etc.).

>titus adronicus
1/10 in the Shakespeare rating system.
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>>25089582
Coriolanus is fun in part because of the utter disdain that Coriolanus shows for the average Roman citizen, a disdain that he is never really disabused of nor even really shown to be in the wrong for having. Coriolanus is kind of a "fuck them poors" story.

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Did any millennials write anything of substance? All the best fiction written by people under 50 are all Gen X writers. I cannot name one Gen Y writer who is good. Tao Lin? He's a joke.
But if you asked me who is the best living writer today, it would probably be Joshua Cohen, who is Gen X.
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I need to learn how to make a website
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>>25089691
It's very easy. Just build one from scratch with some basic HTML, CSS, and maybe JS for functionality. Publish over github pages and buy a domain for 10-15 bucks a year.

Now, getting literally anyone to ever visit is a different matter. It's fun, however, so might as well.
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>>25085150
I'm sure a few hidden gems here are still to be discovered by a larger readership
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>>25085150
The best millennial writers are all women so you cannot engage in discussion here about them.
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>can't get published because i'm male
Millennial males have found a really excellent cope and excuse for not being able to write worth a shit.

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When are we getting an English translation of the novel most pertinent to Mishima's mindset? Its absurd that this hasn't been translated to English yet. We have Russian and Spanish translations of Kyoko's house now but no one has undertaken an English translation.

Is anyone working on it? Is there any hope of getting it? I've been pining to read it for years. I know someone published an unofficial translation on a substack but it was removed by the time I found out about it unfortunately. Are we ever getting a chance to read this bros?
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lol apparently there is also an italian version. why are bongs and burgers so insular?
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>>25089911
>the novel most pertinent to Mishima's mindset
Proofs?
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>>25090001
There is no proof. Its simply my opinion since he essentially dissects himself psychologically through the different characters in the novel, based on the wiki summary I read.
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>>25090065
>based on the wiki summary
How can you form an opinion when you’re a monolingual retard who has not read the book?
>since he essentially dissects himself psychologically through the different characters in the novel
So like his other novels

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how it feels reading finnegans wake
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>>25089734
/thread
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>>25089624
Isnt this literally like Bret Easton Ellis type shit
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>>25089637
no it isn't, maybe you ought to hop off the internet, kid
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>>25089850
Already happened. You can see the vid on Worldstar.
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>>25089917
What are they propagandizing for?

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what books to take with me when leaving everything behind and start living in a remote cabin the woods
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Brave New World
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>>25090091
LoTR seems to be more your speed
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Watership Down.
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Walden, of course

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might be the weed, but was watching rambo reboot 2008, and it sucked.

spoiler below:
Having long-since abandoned his life as a lethal soldier, John Rambo (Sylvester Stallone) lives a solitary life near the Thai border. Two weeks after guiding a missionary (Julie Benz) and her comrades into Burma, he gets an urgent call for help. The missionaries have not returned, and although he is reluctant to embrace violence again, Rambo sets out to rescue the captives from the Burmese army.spoiler stop.

so my challenge:
find a movie or book plotb that sucked,post the synopsis,. Why it sucked, then post plot changes recommendations.

ill post my ideas in a few.
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LIVE FOR NOTHING
OR DIE FOR SOMETHING
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>>25089536
op here.
Ok, I think this is a good thread idea regarding writing, specifically for those of us, that write fiction. but this could also be an opinion thread on movies and other stories that just didn't do it for you.

RAMBO Reboot:
Regarding the Rambo reboot movie, I thought the movie was convoluted with plot holes. Time was the main issue. Vietnam war ended in 1972, that would put the Rambo reboot character at above 50 years old at least. Since the character was in his mid 20's in the Rambo 1 movie, and since Army Special Forces require some time to become expert at it, I would place Rambo at a conservative age of 25 years at the time of the Rambo and Sherrif interaction, so the Rambo reboot character is absolutly a boomer, aged but physically honed. Another thing that the reboot lacked was more back story and screen time with the female character. Paper thin female hostage.

MY Changes. I would make the Rambo reboot into a flash back movie, with Rambo being a missionary, married to the female lead in the movie talking to the camera about how they met and how rambo is better and more normal now. Either a missonary line plot, or perhaps, Rambo runs a troubled youth program. I think the church angle works with the reboot plot.


So I'll take your critisisim and ideas on my plot changes, and please contribute your changes to movies and stories that did not sit well with you.
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i Get to writing a post or the next great novel.
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'The Idiot' from Fyodor Dostoevski

(Plot synopsis)

Prince Liev Michkin, a good-natured individual with a very sickly condition that makes him prone to seizures, is in medical treatment in Switzerland when he receives a message stating that he must return to Russia to inherit his family's wealth. In doing so, Michkin is embroiled in the degenerate affairs of the russian elite in St. Petersburg, particularly when he falls in love and is caught in a love triangle involving his dispute with the unpredictable and violent Parfion Rogójin for the love of the mysterious Nastasya Filipovna, a concubine to a rich russian aristocrat and a nasty person about to be wed due to the huge dowry put on her by said aristocrat who wants to get rid of her immediately.

(Why it sucks)

There is far too much filler, resulting from a time where the author was paid for amount written. There are far too many side-characters whose plot do not truly concern Michkin, and where he is a sole observer. Most interesting things happen in flashback and are narrated in vividly detail, which suggests Dosto wanted to write those stories rather than this one.

(My changes)

Cut all the side-plots. Turn flashbacks into the actual plot. Have the third act be the second act, with the story beginning with Michkin coming to St. Petersburg, attending to Nastasya's party, following them to Moscow, narrowly escaping assassination, then insisting on Nastasya even as she chooses Parfion Rogojin, leading to the dramatic ending to the story where a maddened Rogojin kills her, then tries to kill himself, and the Prince is having a seizure near them. This reinforces the theme of the good-nature of Michkin confronted with the degenerate, self-destructive nihilistic evil of everybody else. All sideplots very much lead nowhere (such as the validity of the Prince's inheritance or his relationship to Aglaya) do not contribute to the story.


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