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>>4166816
>3.9 gpa
What a shitty gpa
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>>4166886
I wonder whos job it is to document runaways.. Must be depressing work
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>>4166884
It's just a service. There's nothing inherently unfulfilling or bad about it, many are very happy about it
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>>4166886
>I still think you should continue taking AAs until you've been on hormones at least 3 years.
she's having srs soon
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>>4166887
It does not. It doesn't better anyone's life.

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Why is homosexuality okay,and incest not?
Why is homosexuality okay,and beastality not?
Why is homosexuality okay,and necrophilia not?

How do you convince yourself that you're not mentally ill person?
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>>4166795

This is obvious bait but... im bore
>Why is homosexuality okay,and incest not?
Some incest is ok. 2 consenting adults should be free to love each other as long as they do not reproduce because of inbreeding.
>Why is homosexuality okay,and beastality not?
Humans evolved to be sexually and romantically attracted to other humans, not other species. On top of this, the thinking capacity of an animal is quite low and therefore they cannot properly consent as they are just running on instinct.
>Why is homosexuality okay,and necrophilia not?
Because of diseases and stuff. A rotting corpse is full of maggots and all kinds of icky things.
>How do you convince yourself that you're not mentally ill person?
I have slight mental illness as i am transgender but theres not much i can do about it. Gender dysphoria doesnt have a cure, all i can do is take hormones to feel more comfortable in my body.

I will admit that anyone who thinks they are something because thats how they feel is deluded. I know im not the same as cis women and im ok with that. I am a trans woman.
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>>4166867
That was just a poor choice of words. Considering you are probably the op, and I have seen similar arguments, you could have easily attacked the wording if it said consenting people instead of adults by claiming that they implied homosexuals do not have to follow consent laws.
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>>4166795
>Why is homosexuality okay,and incest not?
>Why is homosexuality okay,and beastality not?
>Why is homosexuality okay,and necrophilia not?

I never said any of those things are no ok. I think incest, bestiality, and necrophilia should be legal and not be viewed as taboo.
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>>4166873
I'm not the OP but I do think age of consent laws are mostly bullshit that do more harm than good.
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>consent laws are mostly bullshit t
confrimed for pedophile. A childs brain cannot handle the intense emotions that come from having sex with an adult because they arent fully develped, which can cause a LOT of trauma for them.
Any neuroscientist or psychologist can tell you this, its pretty much common knowledge in the medical community as well.

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>>4166592
you know it buddy!
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>>4166569
Serious question, why wouldn't you want to bottom? It makes you feel really loved.
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Is it against forum rules to post my boipussy?
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>>4166849
This is a blue board, no NSFW content.
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pls no bully

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tinychat/gaygen
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>>4166772
but he wouldn't do that if he was straight
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>>4166582

My kingdom for a hot man with a beard
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>>4166872

i made this.

i hope eventually my baseline motivation will be high enough to get me off my ass, but who knows. hope springs eternal i guess.

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If someone told you they were pansexual or demisexual would you take the seriously?
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>>4165541
Not really, demisexuals can be hetero, homo, bi etc. Demisexuality simply means someone just does not experience sexual attraction to someone until they have an emotional connection with them.
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>>4164057
pansexuals are bi. there is no difference.

demisexuals are just slutty bisexuals and because all bisexuals are sluts then demisexuals can't possibly exist.
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>>4166822

There is a difference between pansexuality and bisexuality, but it's meaningless to people who believe there are only two genders.

>demisexuals are just slutty bisexuals and because all bisexuals are sluts then demisexuals can't possibly exist.
Lolwut? Demisexuals if anything would be the opposite of slutty since they simply arent attracted to people they don't already have some kind of emotional connection with. And not all demisexuals are bi, some are straight or gay.
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Only if they suck tranny cock on a regular basis.
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>>4164057
The worst offender is sapiosexual.

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Is there a correlation between atheism and LGBT acceptance?
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>>4165189
>Maybe you could help your own case a bit if you weren't so ironically judgemental about people who were born a certain way that causes them unfair social stigma, from trans people to Iranians.

Where the fuck did I say that in my post? I said I don't care that they got free trannie bullshit when gays are being HANGED IN THE FUCKING STREETS!

Yeah great you get free government goodies, but MY PEOPLE ARE BEING FUCKING KILLED BY A NAZI REGIME! Your previous post made it seem you could give to shits about that so long as your precious trannie government funding is legal. I don't even mind you getting free government sex change surgery, what I don't care about is homosexuality being punishable by DEATH and actively trying to kill me.

And Iranians are savages. I hate those animals. Wish those Israelis would bomb them to the stone age, cause their government is from the stone ages.
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Daily reminder if atheists were majority in America shit like religious freedom law bullshit would never exist.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/27/politics/indiana-religous-freedom-explainer/index.html
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>>4166626
Trans people aren't somehow in support of gay people being murdered just because Iran offers sexual reassignment surgery, and not all Iranians are strawman Muslim political radicals who dehumanize whole swaths of people to more easily hate them... like yourself.
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>>4162949
nope, I tend to see lgbt things pushing the local church, they don't really seem to accept atheists.
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>>4166355
... that's exactly what it means, you fucking retard.

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No.

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When someone is diagnosed with gender identity disorder, do they have a brain scan to see if they actually have the brain of the gender that they desire to be?
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>>4158678

Not him, but if a class of people think their anatomy is oppressing them or perhaps even deny the reality it implies, and think the solution is killing themselves disproportionately or chopping off their cock, I would say their mental health is a little suspect at the very least.
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>>4158746
You didn't answer my question at all. Too bad smartass is gone
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>>4142216
marissa madison transitioned for money, so what would that make her? delusional? at the end of the day she has a better life than most transwomen lol
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>>4158678

Both. Black and white fallacy (those are the only factors and there aren't more) and affirming the disjunct (you have to pick! you can't have both!) don't make you right, or smart. They are arguing techniques that make it sound like you're correct when you're not - that's why they're called logical 'fallacies', not, y'know, 'logic'.

Your argument makes it clear you aren't interested in discussing the medical or scientific basis for diagnosing or treating gender dysphoria. The bias in the way you're trying to discuss this and refer to both ('brain-driven' is marketing speak) indicates you want there to be a physical brain-structure basis for gender dysphoria, and to use that as a basis for negative discrimination. Just like the OP.

More /pol/ shitposting, in other words.

In reality, all factors should be considered in making a diagnosis, especially a major one, and psychological problems are inherently multi-root - even if there is physical brain structure issue that is reliably discoverable, there will likely be some cases that have none of that and more of the other causes.

Trying to select a single category of evidence for a diagnosis is shitty thinking. Like giving a credit check based solely on someone's ability to make mortgage payments, and not on bounced bills and credit cards and lawsuits and whatever else. You'd be fired for that.

Diagnosis is a complex process. There would be some brain structure things that would be important, and others less so. There are some behavioural things that are important, and others less so. Being able to discern, categorize, and rate these factors is why we train GPs for 7 years, and specialists for 11.

So yeah. Logical fallacies pursuing an emotional agenda in support of shitty thinking. Great.

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>>4164091

If that's true, then she's an adult modifying her body to live the lifestyle she wants. If it's not negatively impacting her quality of life so much so that we can, as a society, justify stopping her, then there isn't an issue. It's the same as someone deciding to take a call centre job, or get a piercing. If you're against that, you're firmly in the pile of people who think tattoos should be illegal, but that smoking is okay.

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Can we share some Grindr/hookup stories?

>hookup with a Maori guy
>has like an 8 inch dick
>think I can take it
>puts condom on and lubes it up
>maybe gets like an inch in
>suddenly feel a violent urge to shit
>wtf how I am absolutely clean inside
>urge is too powerful
>excuse myself and go to the toilet
>loud and explosive farting and some liquid shit
>HOW IS THIS HAPPENING I HAVEN'T EATEN AND DOUCHED BEFORE
>I liquid shit for about 10 minutes
>I'm so embarrassed that I just leave without saying anything

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>>4138078
This got me good
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>>4166543
How are you so sarcastic to everyone but don't get raped at least one nutjob who takes the joke a bit too seriously? Do you not use a face pic?
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>>4166639
Why would that happen
And no, just a body pic
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>>4166656
Because gay creeps are more dangerous than regular creeps

I've gotten couple of stalkers before so I don't use a face pic anymore and blow off people more easily
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If something feels sketchy, I don't go through with it.

I don't want the AIDS. Not even from a healthcare perspective, that it could eventually kill me or the medicine is expensive over a lifetime; I can't afford to get the AIDS because only stupid people get the AIDS.

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Do any other transgirls have problems with their gt leaking?
>be me
>making out with bf
>he leaves
>hour later, gt still leaking
>ditto for arousal from masturbation
It's clear, but it's still totally noticeable on my panties and it's all sticky and I always need to wash them after or they stain.

How do you girls deal?
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>>4166714
So the medical community is turning to sjws. But i can live with that.

There are real trans people, transexuals, like me.
And there are transvestites like you. No problem with that. But there is a difference between a sexual identity or a sexual fetish.
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>>4166623
The truest improvements in technique will be applicable even if you've already received surgery. Do you think lab grown organs can't be put in place I've you've already had surgery?
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>>4166779
touche
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>>4166779
You are a moron. You also have to consider cost, as well as the effects of operating on the same area multiple times. (Once for actual vagina, and potentially again for a uterus)
people that want surgery but don't want the travesty of penile inversion are potentially just as much transsexual, they are just better at handling their mental shit than you are.
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>>4166813
so they are transtrenders. being trans if it fits them. for the gag at partys. to be a cool and edgy teenager.

and the costs...prostitution, working as a slave on a production line and stuff.

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>>4166632
I have to say I disagree with hate speech laws. I think in America, we need to have the right to be hateful assholes.

Discriminatory sales laws, are fine I guess.
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>>4166649
Tbh I think hate speech laws are good, provided they are only trying to get the ones equivalent to death threats or yelling "Fire!" in the theater.

Casual homophobia/racism is... beneficial. They speak up, they get challenged and get arguments. They might not change their opinions, but the people around them will have at least witnessed the argument.


In Brazil, racism is illegal. Kids grow up around family who are incredibly racist at home, but play it nice in public. The result is that they never see counter arguments and just go on with it. Then they do the same thing, etc...

With bad opinions, you want them to be spout and crushed. You don't want they hidden and festering.
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>>4166649
>I have to say I disagree with hate speech laws. I think in America, we need to have the right to be hateful assholes.

Well Europe and Canada ban that shit. America should do the same.

I don't care if people want to be assholes or not. I'm a big government supporter.
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>Swarens: Gov. Mike Pence to push for clarification of ‘religious freedom’ law

http://www.indystar.com/story/opinion/columnists/tim-swarens/2015/03/28/swarens-gov-mike-pence-push-clarification-religious-freedom-law/70611906/

Gov. Mike Pence, scorched by a fast-spreading political firestorm, told The Star on Saturday that he will support the introduction of legislation to “clarify” that Indiana’s controversial Religious Freedom Restoration Act does not promote discrimination against gays and lesbians.

“I support religious liberty, and I support this law,” Pence said in an exclusive interview. “But we are in discussions with legislative leaders this weekend to see if there’s a way to clarify the intent of the law.”
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>>4166649
agreed. the best way to turn people away from bigotry is allow cletus to hang out his trailer door, open his dirty toothless mouth and rant about how dem jews are taking over 'merica using commie propaganda. the more idiots we have saying hateful things the more hate becomes associated with ignorance

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How do you keep a co-ed trans support group going?

Let me elaborate.

I am a transguy 5 years on T top post-op. Support groups got me through the whole thing. Most recently I was part of a Co-Ed support group: both FTM and MTF.

I was thrilled by the idea of having a conversation across genders I had not previously experienced in my FTM only groups.

Not so much. Initially it was all good. Everyone was a little nervous, but myself and a transwoman who was also full time encouraged people to step up and also to listen when need be.

Then the trouble started. As the group went on the transwomen began to speak more openly, but the transguys receded. I watched as the girls came in more sure of themselves every group and the guys literally began to shrink, their arms crossed their bodies collapsing inwards.

In the FTM groups I had been in previously there was a lot of joking so I tried doing that. They would laugh and the girls would fall silent. Then the guys would follow suit. The girls would talk over them and interrupt. Despite the group leaders attempt to "make space" for the guys this grew until one by one they all dropped out including myself.

Why did this happen? I of course have my own theories but I would like to hear others.

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>>4166657
If they drop out of meetings altogether you can't support them in any way with breaking out of their behaviour pattern, or anything else.
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>>4166667
Ofc. But at the same time you should ask yourself how serious these fmts are about their transition. Or if they are more special snowflake than anything.
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>>4166776
Why? What are they doing that the mtfs in the group aren't?
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>>4166805
you said that the ftms are acting all shy, are not able to carry ones point.
so they are falling back to their learned female behaviour. instead of "manning up".
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>>4166809
I'm not OP. But the mtfs in the group are doing exactly the same thing and acting according to their male socialization. I'd say that's a matter of not being able to immediately undo a lifetime of learned behavior for both mtfs and ftms, not about how serious they are about their transition.

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>>4166399
I tried it originally in closed beta and just couldn't get into it, then friends drug me back late Season 2 and I've been hooked since.
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Goodnight TLG
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I want to do hormones but Im afraid of turning gay or into a sub slut.
Am I being stupid ?
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>>4166674
Why do you want to 'do hormones'?
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>>4166406
I didn't spend any time with other kids at school. I was ostracized, and the bullies made sure of it by even beating up anybody who even tried to befriend me. Anything that was different about me was used to harass me so I didn't let others know anything that may cause problems.

Learning something new was likely my absolute biggest hobby, and it was encouraged.

>>4166674
>Am I being stupid ?
Yes. Your orientation is already set, and set independently of your gender identity. What may happen is as you progress through transition, you become more willing to accurately express it.

I also feel dom/sub is part of the set of traits setup during gestation. So it is also fixed, and it just takes learning to accept and express yours.

>>4166689
I'm assuming taking hormones for transition.

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>this is what /pol/ actually thinks
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>>4163712
And true MtFs will jump at the chance immediately. They get to pee in the correct bathroom, and for that, they get free HRT, free SRS, and a court order freeing them from any negative legal repercussions (cop fines, because he can't ID you, you get evicted of your flat or fired from your job because transphobia, etc.) of having an incorrect ID.
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>>4166597
Woosh.
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>>4163291
>explains stuff
lol
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>>4166510
He just told you he wasn't. Thinking really isn't your strongest suit, isn't it?
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>>4162502
>go through most of the HIP images
>the level of autism in these images

It was le9gag tier

>Arkansas follows Indiana into 'religious freedom' fight

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2015/0328/Arkansas-follows-Indiana-into-religious-freedom-fight-video

Now, Arkansas is beginning to experience the same response. The state senate passed a similar bill, which already had been passed by the state house of representatives. (Both chambers are Republican-controlled.) Governor Asa Hutchinson (R) says he’ll sign the law, which declares that "governments should not substantially burden the free exercise of religion without compelling justification."
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Two major US companies, retailer Wal-Mart (which has its home office in Bentonville, Ark.) and Apple have made it clear where they stand.

“Every day, in our stores, we see firsthand the benefits diversity and inclusion have on our associates, customers and communities we serve. It all starts with the core basic belief of respect for the individual. And that means understanding and respecting differences and being inclusive of all people,” Wal-Mart said in a statement. “We feel this legislation is counter to this core basic belief and sends the wrong message about Arkansas.”

Apple CEO Tim Cook, referring to the measures in the two states, said in a tweet: "Apple is open for everyone. We are deeply disappointed in Indiana's new law and calling on Arkansas Gov. to veto the similar HB1228."
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>Georgia Legislators Admit It: “Religious Liberty” Bill Is About Anti-Gay Discrimination

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2015/03/27/georgia_legislators_admit_religious_liberty_bill_is_about_discrimination.html

One of the most irritating aspects of the campaign to legalize anti-gay discrimination in the guise of “religious liberty” is the fact that anti-gay activists are so snidely mendacious about their true aims. Legislators from Arizona to Indiana have openly conceded that the intent of their bills is to protect business owners, like florists and bakers, from having to serve gay couples. Yet the right-wing media continues to sneeringly insist that anyone who detects discriminatory intent behind “religious liberty” legislation is, in one writer’s childish words, “a complete idiot.”
Mark Joseph Stern Mark Joseph Stern

Mark Joseph Stern is a writer for Slate. He covers science, the law, and LGBTQ issues.

On Thursday, however, the façade fell away. During a Georgia House Judiciary Committee debate over the state’s new religious freedom bill, Rep. Mike Jacobs—a Republican!—called anti-gay legislators’ bluff. Jacobs proposed a simple amendment to the legislation clarifying that it must not be interpreted to legalize discrimination. Conservative representatives cried foul, asserting that an anti-discrimination amendment would defeat the purpose of the bill. When the amendment narrowly passed, conservatives quickly tabled the bill, postponing its consideration indefinitely. A religious freedom measure with an anti-discrimination provision, they decided, was not a real religious freedom measure at all.


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