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Pure AGP:

'As they kissed, she found herself carried away by a fantasy of such pure ego that she could hardly admit even to herself that she was having it. Look at this beautiful girl, she imagined him thinking. She’s so perfect, her body is perfect, everything about her is perfect, she’s only twenty years old, her skin is flawless, I want her so badly, I want her more than I’ve ever wanted anyone else, I want her so bad I might die.
The more she imagined his arousal, the more turned-on she got, and soon they were rocking against each other, getting into a rhythm, and she reached into his underwear and took his penis in her hand and felt the pearled droplet of moisture on its tip.'

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/12/11/cat-person
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>'As they kissed, she found herself carried away by a fantasy of such pure ego that she could hardly admit even to herself that she was having it. Look at this beautiful girl, she imagined him thinking. She’s so perfect, her body is perfect, everything about her is perfect, she’s only twenty years old, her skin is flawless, I want her so badly, I want her more than I’ve ever wanted anyone else, I want her so bad I might die”

AGP??? Closeted lesbians project their sexual desire through male characters and self insert as men in fiction so it’s “ok” to be attracted to women, and not be seen as rapey.

This is a lesbian writing lol.
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>>9284474
That's because you're fucking retarded. Avoid thinking at all costs to keep yourself from looking dumber than you already are.
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How would a relationship work between two AGP people? I'm worried
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>>9285841
Transbian love is purest love. They love their own and each other’s femininity
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>>9285841
>I'm worried
Rightly so.

Of course I mean triggered in the sense of feels. We were #BornThisWay.

> 7 year old me watching cartoons.

> See one that matches my preferred a e s t h e t i c.

> It's about a cute unicorn.

> She gets turned into a pretty lady and falls in love with a prince.

> MFW ^.^

> She gets turned back into a unicorn and goes into the forest with no prince.

> MFW ;.;

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>>9287663

I had an Asian classmate who in 7th grade told me and the other kids at our table in art she lost her virginity already. She was one of the valedictorians at her high school graduation too.
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>>9284496

When
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>>9287816

When I was four years old I developed an addiction to Cruella de Vil's pink car and character.
I would draw it over and over again. It's what kickstarted my drawing skills.
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>>9287663
>>9287802

See https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ji7kdaFKZ24 as well.
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>>9287822
Why her car and character? They seem very odd things to fixate on.

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Anybody got any stories about a crush? This is one that has been with me since 7th grade... tell me when it's possible to delete an entire period of your life?

>be me
>sexually confused faggot
>7th grade
>wanted to know what I liked
>fall in love with girl
>become close friends with her
>into weeb culture like me
>match made in heaven to me
>description would be a short emo girl, the "rawr XD :3" kind
time passes
>see her walking to bus saddened
>ask her on Facebook messenger what was up
>she tells me she has feelings for this one guy named...we'll call him...senpai...for reasons that will come later

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>>9284938
:(
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Had 5 crashes throughout my life. Didn't work out even once. 3 girls then 1 boy and then 1 mtf girl. I tried to get closer with them but it was just awkward with a lot of awkward silence. Ended up just dreaming about them, crying and hugging a pillow. Having a crush right now and it's painful. I'm having suicide ideations for years. Feels like i just don't fit in this world and i'll always be alone like this, desperate and lonely.
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>be closeted trans girl
>have a crush on macho athlete in school
>bit of joking flirting but never took it serious cuz hes straight
>continue to boymode right up until graduation when i came in tight black dress
>most boys ignore me, girls compliment me/happy for me
>crush is already drunk and high, tells me i look sexy and ill get lucky tonight
>sits near me during end of year exams
>i make googly eyes at him and make small talk
>see him at a club with other friends
>comes in saying hes gonna fuck me (playin it off as a joke)
>later gives me a peck on cheek and tells me i look good but hes gotta go after vagina
>cry at home
>see him at our prom
>flirt, i pinch his bum
>his friends go off dancing but hes still hanging around our table/booth making small talk

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>>9284782
>Be Gay Cis Male
>Really attractive friend named Logan
>Blantantly flirt with him all the time all in good fun
>He's straight but comfortable with his sexuality enough that he can jokingly flirt back
>Does things like sleep on my lap or stick his arm around my shoulder

>We go swimming one day with some friends
>All jump in hot tub
>We go as far as to give each other hickies in a hot tub
>Meet another gay guy there whos hitting on another friend in the group
>Whatever

>Logan moves away and gay guys love interest plays the ''I was just experimenting'' card
>Me and gay friend start hanging out

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>>9284836
>7th grade
>starbomb
so you're like 15 at the most right now

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I have a friend who's visiting me tomorrow, and I want to seduce him. He wanted to literally fuck me in the past, but I rejected him. Now I have second thoughts about it and I want him real bad.
I don't have any experience with boys though. How should I do it? Should I put on my maid outfit for him?
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>>9287160
Were you boymoding when he wanted to fuck you? How long ago was "in the past" and how well did you know each other when he first lusted after you?

Tell me more about the guy.
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>>9287580
>Were you boymoding when he wanted to fuck you?
I was pre-hrt back then. I thought of myself as a gay guy, and he is bisexual so he had no trouble with fucking a feminine bottom.
>How long ago was "in the past"
Like... 2 years ago?
>how well did you know each other when he first lusted after you?
Pretty well, we knew each other for years.
>Tell me more about the guy.
What's there to tell?
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>>9287586
Any signs of interest after you transitioned?
What kind of sex partner history has he had? Does he fuck around a lot?
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>>9287635
>Any signs of interest after you transitioned?
I think he wouldn't mind hitting on me again. He was kinda flirting with me and asked if I would dress nicely for him (tried to play it off as a joke though).
>Does he fuck around a lot?
Yea, quite. I think he has had dozens of partners by now.
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>>9287715
Try to get him to want you to dress up again. Depending on his personality, play it slutty or nice. Setup the situation really easy for him, practically giving him the control on what you put on (take off).

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thoughts?
https://surveyanon.wordpress.com/2017/12/13/the-patches-are-justified/
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Go away surveryhon
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>>9279483
>The proposed explanation of meta-attraction is that the attraction to men doesn’t come from androphilia, but instead from an autogynephilic desire to be seen as an attractive woman who has sex with men in the way women usually have sex.
This is presenting meta-attraction as purely part of interpersonal AGP.
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AGP here

Yes, I'd say that article is pretty on-point. I used to love watching hardcore porn and imagining myself as the woman; that's AGP. Cis women and HSTS are more likely to prefer more narratively-oriented "softcore" erotica; think late-night HBO, or a spicy romance novel.
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>>9279483
off, for me at least. I want a bf so that my body seems more feminine in comparison, while having a gf would just make me dysphoric and hate myself more for being comparatively male.
I actually never fantasize about men, and really only find them attractive in person.
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>>9284471
I'm AGP and I like narrative/softcore erotica. I've never watched guy porn.

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>being sexually intimate with tranny gf
>she's blowing me
>can never make me cum, but she gets me nice and hard to stuff her butt pussy
>suddenly, with no warning, she pushes one of her fingers into my ass and starts mashing my prostate
>before I can tell her to stop, I nut my brains out into her mouth
>I get really angry and ignore her for the rest of the night

Am I gay now? Is this relationship ruined?
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As a punishment don't wipe next time you go for a dump. Instead get her to use her tongue to clean you up.
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>>9284396
Real talk, that shit is dangerous. Who knows what you could have had up there. Talk to her, tell her that. Tell her she should screen shit like that with you. If you want her to do it again (which it sounds like you might), you gotta prepare beforehand with an enema or something. You're not gay. buttplay isn't inherently anything. just talk to her dude, tell her to apologise and make her promise that she'll screen shit like this in the future.
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>>9284396
Next time ask her to put her girl cock inside you instead of a finger.
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>>9284396
>Has sex with biological male
>Am I gay?
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>>9284404
You're being ironic but it could count as rape.

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How do you call a trans boy that likes to dress as a girl? Sort of a trap, but trans.

Also, how do you call a trans girl that likes to dress as a boy?
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>>9284642
Get on the tiddy skittles then
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>>9286878
no i meant a real girl
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>>9259831
you have to understand that females are allowed any self-expression and can pretend to be 'boys' for fun or out of trend while not taking mones and still wearing makeup and it doesnt make them trans
>we are cute demi-boys! uwu
they are eitjer trenders or gnc lesbians


but for mtfs its not a game, they boymode out of necessity when they cant pass cause men are not allowed to dress as girls in society

then there are femboys but they dont even claim to be transgirls and dont want social transition
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>>9286917
I'm sorry, anon...tgirls are real girls, too.
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>>9287620
thank you but we arent

I'm lowkey agp and I reaaaaaaaaaally don't wanna go bald. I'm getting on fin soon, but part of me is tempted to just go "fuck it" and start HRT. I haven't brought any of this up with my therapist since she's a bit SJWy and I feel like she'd just affirm whatever I'm feeling rather than seriously examining it.

What should I do?
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>>9282339
Trans doesn't real. If you want to be a girl, consider it. The end.
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>>9282339
There are very few 'surefire' anythings in the world, and this is no different. But I do know this - most cis people consider the question about like they'd consider if they'd 'like to live in the 1400s' - it's a brief consideration, a laugh, and then its gone.
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>>9284917
Some people, cis or not, also have a tendency to overthink certain things and create problems which aren't there.
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>>9284961
I overthink things all the time. I'm a scaredy cat. But after my first and only breakdown, the life analysis made it pretty clear that I was trans. Even my entire literary tastes got warped around that part of my identity that I was denying even existed.

I mean you can overthink yourself and still be right. I couldn't picture myself as growing old as a man at all. But unsurprisingly, I have a bunch of older female role models in my life/entourage that I'd be happy to emulate in my old age. That's overthinking things. But it doesn't mean that the result is false.
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>>9285023
>Even my entire literary tastes got warped around that part of my identity that I was denying even existed.
?

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I come in peace from a different board with a question for the LGBT community.

>Know a lesbian couple
>They're the man hating kind of crazy lesbian we all know and love
>Want to have kid
>Talk their gay friend into being sperm donor
>One of them successfully inseminated
>Keep talking about how they're going to raise HER to be this and hate that and be a strong womyn
>At the point of pregnancy where they can tell gender
>Is a boy
>They legitimately flip the fuck out and are extremely pissed
>Baby is healthy and everything nothing wrong just a boy not a girl
>they seriously consider abortion
>decide to keep it
>they plan to demasculinize the child

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>>9284481
Only 1 to 10? Over the course of history, I'd say it was much, much, much, much higher, although we'll never really know since so many women were written out. Only a few like Queen Himiko remain, and that's just sad.
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>>9284518
I was being generous. Men rule this world.
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>it's another "feminists deny female privilege" episode
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>>9284587
That's all feminism episodes.
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>>9266352
Take note of everything they are saying, even better if it's written in social media or messaging. The thing about not breastfeeding the kid is extremely important, you want to find stuff like that, that is objectively and unquestionably bad for the kid no matter how retarded law enforcement is. See if they want to physically or emotionally abuse the kid, try to get that in text form.

And then take it all to the local child protection service.

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>come out as ftm to best friend
>tfw your best friend thinks that tumblr is the cause of you being trans and believes its a phase
>friend also thinks that since i didn't show discomfort when we were little that its a phase for me now


i feel like shit now
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>>9279185
>Coming out
>Having a best friend
I'd feel like shit too.
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>>9279921
It means you're a human being and don't like being treated like shit. Women worldwide are second class citizens and you don't want to be in the same category as these people who are subjugated simply because they have the same reproductive system as you.
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>>9279185
>come out as ftm to shitty enemy

Well, now you know! Proceed accordingly
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i like tits and i want latkes
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>>9279185
you should kill yourself you faggot.

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Do any of you match any of your letter's stereotypes?

>ftm
>have arm tattoos
>have septum piercing
>a little misogynistic
>short
>small hands
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>>9284019
id fuck buddha tbqhwy
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>>9283792
Can't even tell if this is ironic or not
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>mtf
>ugly
>sad

Hey, I guess I really am a stereotype!
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>>9282049

>gay
>subject of pederasty
>traditionalist planning to work way up the political hierarchy
>studied at sacred institution
>mostly dress in very expensive suits and spit on the homeless
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im ftm, have a septum piercing, short, gay, UwU

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>be ftm
>have impreg fetish
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>>9286213
>But I'm not ok with only being able to get off to being humilated.
Why not?

What humiliation stuff do you get off to? This question is for you >>9286909 too.
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Gay with a foot fetish but most guys have ugly feet. The sexiest feet are the ones that look the most feminine
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>>9284076
>Like, instead of PE being a compatibility issue, it's the man's issue. Does that make sense?
I get it, yeah.

What's your PE kink?
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>>9287277
Given that MtFs can have cute feet and there's not much fat tissue on feet or much reason for HRT to alter their look I'd say it's a problem of guys not caring for their feet enough, unfortunately it's not something they think about when being attractive comes into mind.
Maybe try looking for bi crossdressers, someone dedicated to looking nice in a feminine way would also dedicate some time to caring for their feet, it seems like feet fetishism overlaps with crossdressing to some extent, I have no clue if crossdressers and femboys are more likely to have nice feet but it does seem probable

Of course if it's about liking small feet and not the rest of the features it's not gonna work, guys have flippers instead of normal feet
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>>9287013
Same, same. I think such fetishes aren't necessarily wrong or something in other people, but I hate it in myself, too.

>>9287091
For me (not sure about her), it's usually tied into stuff like maledom or free use. Sometimes corrective rape, though reading about it normally makes me sick. Stuff like being verbally abused also would normally make me angry but in a porn context I enjoy. I hate that I like it.

How can I tell if I’m actually gay or if just viscerally despise women?
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>>9286785
Because he's male, dumb dumb.

I agree with him and I'm a tranny.
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>>9286842
So women have to make huge contributions to society to not be considered chattel, and OP can just stay home playing with his fupa and drinking juice. But because he's dude, it doesn't matter how much of a drain on society he becomes. Seems legit.
>>9286825
This may surprise you but I was brought into this world by a woman. So yeah, I got something out of it. Also I have a bomb-ass grandma who I respect because she's dead-ass cooler than anyone in this thread, even me.
So go eat a basket of dog anus, Garfield.
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>>9285556
>viscerally despise women?
>women
What are these?
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>>9285556
There's no difference.

Elliot Rodgers was a closeted QT femboy who needed a daddy bf
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>>9287405
OP didn't say anything about contributions to society or drains on society. I think you're projecting.

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I'm 20 right now there's always been times in my life where I have wanted to be a female but I find something to occupy my mind so I don't think about it (usually pot, movies, and books) but it just keeps coming back and I just feel like coming out would change how people look at me and just change my life completely... I told my sister once and she just made fun of me for a while... I'm scared and am looking for any advice you can give
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>>9275452
You sound trans
This board is toxic as a social space but has good technical information, see /HRTgen/ for info on legally and safely acquiring hormone therapy and what that stuff does etc., and see the OP post of /mtfg/ for links to various tutorials for voice training etc.
It's gonna be an existential mindfuck for quite a while but if you hold on tight and have decent genetics you can come out the other end a lot better off
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>>9282531
Ive thought that for a while Im just scared that this will drastically change my life and i already live a mundane life with few friends and only one family member i can still talk to and feel like they will abandon me if i tell them about this
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>>9284428
:(
It's hard but there's a lot of good people out there to make friends with, dysphoria is only gonna get worse with age, you're worth acting to protect over the possibility that people might turn out to be petty
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>>9284463
Ive tried reaching out to support groups but i get in this mind set that my body has already be hit with puberty and just think "im not going to be able to pass might as well try to put on a and carry on with life" and i end up just ditching the support groups
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>>9275452
ive never met a trans person that was mentally stable. go work on that and just be a twink

What does /lgbt/ think of Putin?
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>>9286967
I think his head is so perfect we could draw a few colored lines vertically on it and have the MPCP. I think he looks hot on bearback. I'm afraid he'll hunt unicorns with rocket launchers. He shots web and doesn't afraid of anything.
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he's hot and i'd let him fuck me if he wasn't a manlet.
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>>9287052
Why are all these fucking "refugees" still alive and well if that's the case?
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>>9287042
Stop to larping, germany is lost, only Poland can save you
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>>9287069
Wrong Germany.



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