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What do trans people think of women who claim to be gender fluid?

When a women tells you she is gender fluid how do you feel about it (and yes it is always a cis het white women saying she is gender fluid) I find it extremely invalidating and an expression of female privilege that she can feel so emboldened to announce that she is a gender variant without fear of societal repercussions. Like announcing you are a trans woman you have to literally fear for your job, physical safety and even life. Where women can just play trans when they want to by saying they are gender fluid.

On a similar note, what do you think about the raise of bio queens, or female born female identified "drag queens." Women who wear drag style make up and try to do drag shows. I can't help but feel they are missing the whole reason drag is important is because of the way men in society have been limited in the ways they can express themselves. Why do cis women always feel that they need to take up space in lgbt culture when they really don't belong?
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Op here, gender fluid and gender queer are different in the gender queer is typically a rebellion of gender. But still far more women identify as gender queer because of opressions points and no repercussions due to female privilege.
You have absolutely excellent taste in web comics.
It's a defensive community. We're all faggots to normies. Yes, even the L.
I don't think much of it. I just immediately think of it as a phase no matter how seriously they take it at the time. I don't let them know that of course, and I act as respectful as I can socially towards them. There's always that nagging feeling in the back of my mind however, rolling my eyes in my mind kind of feeling. I'm sure other people feel that way towards me at times.

>bio queens, or female born female identified "drag queens."
Seems like a excessive way of saying "I like the drag queen style and want to dress and act like that." The whole thing feels funny to me. I guess I would be more offended the more serious they take it. It's such a human thing to do though. Liking something then putting your own spin on it and saying it's yours now.
Genderfluid is just Tumblr for crossdresser, esp. F->m. Because crossdresser has come to mean a man in a dress.

Do you think fiction changes how we perceive LGBT?
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no doubt

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>How do I find out if a trans girl like guys or girls without directly asking

bonus question
>How do I seduce a trans girl
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lol just ask her
don't be a pussy, have some motherfucking courage ~ ice-t

how do you seduce any girl? excessive confidence, playfulness, friendliness, light teasing, not looking like shit, car + job
results may vary girl to girl


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you're walking on dangerous ground buster
I love when people I like give me physical attention but want to amputate body parts touched by people I don't like
>for the record headpats do not work, she probably thinks I have autism now
no shit
Hey, at least you tried

So I’m a 19 year old Bisexual man from England, who’s only ever been with women, but for the longest time now, I’ve been craving thoughts of just having causal sex with a man I’ve done a lot of anal masterbating and playing with my mouth. I’ve seen men I’d love to be with but right now, I need a causal hookup, just two guys preferably one who could show me the ropes having sex. Nothing more just people fucking, one time just so I can experience it

Any advice?
Just to add, I’d like the hookup with someone in secret, so not logging into tinder with my Facebook
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Scruff or Grindr or Hornet or Planet Romeo or Craigslist or Gay.com or Manhunt or etc.
Is this a good idea for OP though? Don't think you'll get someone who's willing to help out and teach from an app

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Why is the tumblr LGBT+ community such a haven for weirdos??

>were they bullied for being LGBT and so became jaded and weird/crazy ?
>were they weird and naturally joined the LGBT community because they wanted attention
> does the tumblr hive mind just produce people like this?

pic very much related
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>Tumblr is weird
>Thanks god for the sane people on 4chan
This is why mandatory waistline limit measuring is needed. Some sort of obesity taxing system too. The state of Burgerland adopting SJW Tumblr policies with fat people is sad.
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>implying it's an lgbt-specific problem
You shitposting normies just put a spotlight on every werido that happens to be lgbt and declare them representative of us all while conveniently making excuses to deny being associated with your group's weirdos.
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>posts a Facebook capture
Was it a male pig?

Idk where else to ask this or how to title it, so here goes.
I like to suck cock, and like to rub the cock I coated in saliva over my lips and cheeks. Idk if that produces a smell but can it be smelled like the morning after when having breakfast with the family? I usually like to let him cum in my mouth. If I let him cum in my face or chest. I'll obviously wipe it off but will that leave a smell?
I'm open to be educated more and even tips on being better at blowing.
Why not just wash your face in the morning anon

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Confused anon here. I'm a 28 years old kisseless virgin. I've always identified as straight but lately I think some girls are attractive too and fantasize about dating girls. I'm even crushing on a girl right now, I want to cuddle and kiss her. And I'm pretty sure this is happening to me because at this point I would want anyone who wanted me.

Did anyone else turn bi/homo because of loneliness and desperation? Will I go back to straight if I ever find a boyfriend?
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Sad to say I'm not sure if cis girls will be interested in mtf either, anon
Be my gf
Did you ever like boys? It sounds like you were a lesbian the whole time and didn't realize it. Also, there is no go back to because nothing is gonna trigger you to change sexualities: if you experiment with women and never go back to men, it just means that you liked women this whole time
>did anyone else turn homo from loneliness or desperation?
female sexuality is complicated, don't label yourself just do whatever you want. congratulations, everybody knows that bisexuals are the hottest of their respective sexes.

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Buried in Snow Edition.

Intended to be a no-trips allowed version of /mtfg/.
This is to keep the drama low, and let anonymous people be heard, as well as to avoid the erp/rp that goes on.

It's open for everyone, just behave.

>No trips (or names)
>No avatar fagging
>No erp/rp-ing
>No calling out on trips (or names)
>No "pre-everything" "evaluate me" pics (don't respond to them)
>No chasers

Anthropometric data: http://anthro.cs.uni-freiburg.de/#colx=100&coly=124

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you didn't though
you just made people who take pills feel like idiots and gave no further information on benefits and downsides of other methods or details on how specifically pills can fuck shit up or benefits of pills
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I love making MSPaint garbage.
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Long hair and bangs!
I don't have as long hair as pic related. Yet. But the bangs are more or less like this. You have to try what works for you.
I don't think I would have been misgendered if not for the clothes that covered most of my body and face. But the scarf was white, which is rather girly. I have also got big glasses, that I think flatter me as a girl, and help pass.

Wah, that sounds wonderful!

You don't seem to know what you are talking about.
Only swallowing estradiol gives you these undesirable effects. It doesn't apply if you take E pills buccally or sublingually.
t. /hrtgen/
visit a gim at least once a week. Even if you got no BF look ino the mirror, and you'll feel better.
tgg discord

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How do I make this situation a reality?
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Bullshit. Visit a gay club in female clothing and makeup. Answer you don't have a BF for now. Enjoy a cock in your ass.
bump for the story
by being a damn good cosplayer
Not that anon but I am that

also would put a collar on you and force you down and grab you by the hair and fuck your throat desu
As a small cute passing trans girl I actually experimented with walking around with a crotch bulge in my university for a short time.

Absolutely nothing dramatic happened, almost no one noticed, those who noticed were short girls with their head closer to crotch level and they looked for maybe 2-3 seconds longer than normal and went on with their business.

Admittedly I was flaccid for most of it, the real fun would be if I popped a viagra or was able to stay erect the entire time by thinking about sex.

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A thread for late transitioners to share and discuss their problems, feelings and stories.
Everyone who started transitioning past 21 is welcome.
>Why past 21?
Because your bones are fused by 22-23, so your development is essentially over.

What do you think is worse - becoming less passable or wasting precious years on your fake life? If you could turn back time, do you think your past self would immediately stop repressing after seeing you?

Remember to ignore youngshits, agp caraposter and other shitposters.
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>I can't afford ffs to get rid of this ugly male chin, brow ridge and fix this repulsive crooked nose
Save up.
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Shoved pics on one discord and it is confirmed my friends have just made fun of having baby face/dykish look. So if I am not hidding god tier genetics under fat, I should just give up.
neither of those two make you a good person, you're quite demonstrably a bad person
>being cis is a thousand times easier

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>tfw no domestic abuser bf to treat me like a punching bag and call me a stupid bitch :(
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Suicide will prevent you from discovering amazing things. You have to keep digging. Make art. Explore art. Find someone worth fighting for. Make your own family
I have zero creative or artistic talent and everyone I ever care for abandons me
We all have artistic potential. It can just be kept for yourself. You haven't foubd the right people yet
unironically marry me
>tfw no one to tie up and hang upside down to literally use as a punching bag
>tfw no one to force to stay naked at home and hurt randomly for no other reason than I want to
>tfw no one to start biting suddenly during cuddles to transition into a full on "raping"
>tfw no one to bind gag whip and mockingly degrade into a whimpering crying puddle

Thoughts on Doug Jones, the new senator of Alabama, 's position on LGBT rights?
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There's what they say, but you know damn well what it's gonna be used for.
I'd painfully grind his sausage to tiny pepperoni bits with my buns.
Mike Pence pls no
Sanders is at best a social democrat, not even a socialist. Sorry but the republicans have called communist too many times, people won't fall for it like they used to.
Yeah, sorry but that isn't how the fucking law works. It isn't based on if you were "okay" with something at the time it was committed. Motive doesn't matter. Elected officials should not be pedophiles, period.

And I know the follow-up you'll have. Something about people being paid to make up accusations or come forward in the first place. If that's the case, where is any fucking evidence of it? The people that typically come forward with accusations against politicians are usually relative nobody's, they have simple jobs and live with their families. They aren't these shadowy figures concocted by "the media." I'm sure they might feel pressure internally and from family to go public with accusations, but still. The right is just in full blown conspiracy theorist mode these days.

>Every sexual harassment/rape accusation is fake or purchased by CNN
>The entire Russia investigation must be corrupt because one of them sent angry texts about Trump and got FIRED for it
>Virtually every major media outlet is all in cahoots, CNN, MSNBC, PBS, Washington Post, New York Times, are all secretly trying to "sabotage" the presidency by concocting lies
>Positions Obama appointed that Trump has failed to replace are part of the "deep-state"
>Every poll depicting Trump's failing in the eyes of Americans is simply fake, because the polls were wrong about Hillary

3 years ago I would've said the left was the delusional, SJW-ridden conspiracy party. Now it's without a doubt republicans, or I guess I'll say trump supporting republicans. You will believe absolutely anything with no proof, just a blue check mark saying @RealDonaldTrump, and pull attempts at moral principal out of your asses whenever you think it suits you.

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So I've heard many times that trans people can clock each other very easily. But can trans people identify other trans people even when they wear male clothing?
I got this guy at work and I'm almost certain he's trans but I just don't know for sure. I'm thinking about taking a creep shot and showing it to you so maybe you guys can identify him as trans for me. Just to make this clear I don't want to blackmail him if he turns out to be trans I actually want to try to make him my girlfriend.
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>I guess I'll just try my luck and confess my feelings and probably make a fool out of myself.
Good, do that!
Go be happy!
Come on, we all know how this will go.
>i'll confess today
>i'll better confess tomorrow
>i'll just wait for the perfect moment to confess
>never confesses their feelings
Nah, OP will confess to the dude but he's just a feminine straight so he'll get freaked out by OP's proposition and just walk away. Then rumors will spread OP is 'into trannys' and OP will come running back here to bitch that we aren't r/relationships.
I notice it. That's how I clock most boymoding tranners desu.

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why are musicals seen as a gay thing?
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Cause they're like concept albums with shittier music.

And the gays are known for accepting shittier versions of things
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>the gays are known for accepting shittier versions of things
Are you talking about Kitsch?
Honestly I just wanted to talk shit about musicals

Gay people are a-ok

Hamilton was aite
Ex-dramafag here.

Drama attracts dramatic people, and your average fag is flamboyant and melodramatic as fuck even off the stage. Theatre is just his natural environment, to include all the catty backbiting and rumor-mongering bullshit that goes on behind the scenes.
It's a way of being simultaneously social and escapist.

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Post all FFS topics, queries, questions and related material in this thread.

>What is FFS
you already know what it is
>How much does FFS cost?
depending on what you get and where you live, 5k-70k
>Good surgeons?
Facial team, deschampes-braly, 2pass
>How can I, broke as hell, afford it?
idk lol
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I have similar chin, jawline and lower-mid-upper face ratio as her, how much did she pay and what did she get done?
Also is there such a thing as removing too much lower face making mid face too long?
Not an expert but I dont think that works like how you think it would. Plenty of women have a really small lower 3rd of a face in relation to their mid face. I forgot where I saw this online maybe here first or I looked it up somewhere, but when we determine if someone has a long mid face its in relation to the distance between their eyes. AKA: distance between pupil has to be ~a 1:1 ratio to the distance between the area between your eyes to the top of your lip. So nothing really that would make the mid face too long per se.

However, if you go by rule of thirds I guess you could be less attractive if you make the bottom 3rd of your face too short, while keeping the midface and upper third the same size. I'm having surgery in a couple of months and I'm pretty much getting my whole face done. Realistically I probably only needed 1-2 things done but instead I'm getting pretty much the whole face done to keep the proportions good
God work on this one.
Nah. Aggressive stuff. Everything has been reworked. She probably needed a few weeks to manage the stress.
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>imo she passes fine right now
cis straight dude. The after picture is something I wouldn't be ashamed of being in public with and probably wouldn't realize was trans until I was told or I saw something else. In fact that's just a tad on the masculine side for what I'd consider "my type".

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