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How do i get over the idea that my virginity is sacred? Browsing 4chan from a younger age has wired my brain in weird ways. Im a 22 yr old virgin now and although I've had all the opportunity i feel like ive got to lose it to the right guy because this place has poisoned my mind. Ive been dating a dude for 2 weeks and i want to have sex but i still feel that shit hanging over me.

Other girls think female virgins are weird af btw. I hate the stigma.
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>>19788746
Obvious troll is obvious. You are posting the same old copypasta about old debunked meme studies that bitter virgin manchildren from /r9k/ rage about.
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>>19787449
Let it flow naturally. Next time you have a date go back to his or your place. At the least you should be making out then. Maybe you will already get in the mood for that. If not, then go however far you feel comfortable. Maybe it is best at this point to tell him you are a virgin, because then he will understand you need a bit more time and are nervous.
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>>19787433
I never got the virgin meme either. Just have sex if you want to, why add this extra bullshit into the mix?(and it is bullshit, absolute and utter garbage)

That said, if you're only seeing him two weeks, why not wait another two and see what happens? If you really like him. Otherwise just literally do what you want. You can't let a place like this change how you think about anything, your minds stronger than that surely.
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>>19789473
My ex gf did. Relationship lasted 3 years, made her wait more than 1 year before giving her the d and she still stuck around.
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>>19789513
She clearly didn't stick around.

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ITT: You answer a few basic questions and we tell you how attractive you are as a person

Rules:
NO posting your face or your body, we're here to judge you solely on personality
Be civil, no trolling or shit-posting. Those things make you unattractive anyways
Don't go off-topic (if you HAVE to go off-topic, try to keep it short)
Try not to bump your posts often. We have a limited amount of replies.
Try to rate as many anons as you can! The more feedback we get, the better. You are welcome to ask questions if it helps you rate them, but keep it short.

Questions:

>So what do you do in your free time? What are your hobbies?
>Do you enjoy music? Tell us about your music experiences.
>What are your current goals and passions? Where are you going on your next vacation?
>What do you think makes you stand out from the crowd?

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>>19789359
it's a genuine assessment of strengths and weaknesses. do you think acknowledging a positive trait about myself means that I think that I'm better than everyone because of it? if I had said my strength was being good at sports or something other than academics would you assume I'm "holding on to it" as my "pride and joy"? I'm in no place to be judging other people's personalities but based on your post I don't think you are either.
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>>19786545
1. I like to play video games, mostly at night because I work 10 hours a day at an office furniture factories. I like fighting games, rhythm games and RPGs. Also FPS from time to time. I'm a musician mainly so I like to listen to music and dissect it. I play bass and drums
2. I grew up listening to shit like blink-182 and Taking Back Sunday and the like due to my brother being a teenager at the time. I've gotten more into progressive and experimental genres, mainly with jazz influences (such as The Mars Volta).
3. Get to a good place in life, mainly finacially. Have many friends, be happy. Perhaps go to college. I want to be a good musician and be good at things I enjoy.
4. Rhode Island. I have many friends there I met on the internet. Their friend group and our friend group are kind of a joint friend group. Many of us have gone there multiple times. I went to PAXEast with a few of them this past April.
5. I'm very opinionated and I have an abstract way of thinking. It makes me a little weird but I think it makes for my personality.
6. I'm very emotional and sensitive. Which plays as a strength and weakness. My abstract way of thinking causes for some problems socially in a way. Sometimes I struggle to really relay how I'm thinking.

Tbh I feel I struggle to be interesting when I talk to new people so if anyone thinks they might know why let me know
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>>19786545
>So what do you do in your free time? What are your hobbies?
I enjoy many things. Reading, writing, anime, vidya, cooking, baking, learning languages, swimming. I'm definitely more of an indoorsy type, but I try to go outside as well.
>Do you enjoy music? Tell us about your music experiences.
I used to be a giant metalhead, but lately I'm leaning more towards soundtrack-like, ambient music that serves as a background noise while I work.
>What are your current goals and passions? Where are you going on your next vacation?
I'm currently pursuing my Master's degree in translating and interpreting. I want to master even more languages than I already know and learn at least one dead/rarely used language purely for my enjoyment. I'm hoping to hone my culinary skills as well. I bake something new at least once per week. As for vacation, I'm not going anywhere. I'm not particularly interested in traveling.
>What do you think makes you stand out from crowd?
I'm assertive and confident. I'm not afraid to speak out and I don't fear causing a conflict.
>What do you believe to be your strengths and weaknesses?
Sometimes I come off as aggressive and arrogant. My people skills in general are bad and I can't make a good first impression to save my life. On the other hand, once people get to know me for real, they usually start to like me. My other weakness is my OCD. I've mostly got it under control, but sometimes it acts up. As for my strengths, I believe I'm intelligent, hard-working and funny. I'm also more knowledgeable than most people I know. I don't drink, smoke or do drugs.
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>>19786545
>So what do you do in your free time? What are your hobbies?
Exercise, listen to music, read (I'm into philosophy these days), hang out with my friends. Occasional vidya. I'm also big into psychology these days, although my major is unrelated (EE).
>Do you enjoy music? Tell us about your music experiences.
I listen to music religiously. Favorite genres include hiphop (90s and underground), jazz/blues, house. I've been in a bunch of concerts, latest good experience was a hiphop performance with my now-gf, I recommended the artist and we had a blast.
>What are your current goals and passions?
Progressing with my studies and getting my diploma. Also, working on my social circle and delving deeper into psycho/philosophy.
>Where are you going on your next vacation?
I just got back from a week-long vacation with my best friend and another pal on a Greek island. Will be visiting a different one next month.
>What do you think makes you stand out from the crowd?
My honesty, my empathy and my trustworthiness. Also, my ability to listen.
>What do you believe to be your strengths and weaknesses?
I mentioned my strengths above. I would also say I'm pretty smart. My weaknesses include being a bit hot-tempered, overthinking, and a bit lazy. I've also been conflict-avoidant in my life, but I've been working on it for a long time.
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We need people rating now.

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why am I perpetually unhappy
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>>19789550
Depression or anger issues
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>>19789554
both yes
but I don't understand their origins
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Because you haven't achieve any important goals. There's no reason for your brain to trigger the happiness enzyme.
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>>19789557
>but I don't understand their origins
I don't know your specific situation but genetics probably.
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>>19789550
Expectations that you think you need to fulfill for yourself and others.

If you haven't understood this you are still a kid

hi guys,
posted it in the wrong board before so here i am again

im 22 not so young and not so old but considering ive always wanted a family and wanted to start quite early, im here for a small advice.
2 years ago, partner i was with for 2 years suddenly decided that me wanting kids with him was weird and he disappeared the next day. ive been single the whole time, trying to meet the "right" person to avoid wasting time like i did before dating someone who doesnt see a future with me. i dont seem to meet men who are ready for this sort of commitment which is quite upsetting.
i dont have big expectations, i finished uni, i have a good job, i have been playing volleyball in a team for 12 years, i make music. i dont want to just keep distracting myself from things, taking up another course in uni/college will be pointless since i have everything i want now - except for my own family - and i think its time, considering most of the women in my family were settled down at my age.
does this really scare men away? its not like i want to hunt down a random dude on the street and bark at him that i want kids NOW. i want someone dedicated with the same goals and values.

do i just wait it out? then again, i dont like wasting time. where do i meet someone like that? do you guys have problems with that as well?

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So I just ended things with my (first real) girlfriend.
We have known eachother since we were sixteen, and been a couple since we were twenty years old. That is a little over 8 years since now, so we basicly spent our entire adult life together.

>Finished school together
>Worked shitty low-paying jobs together
>Got increasingly good jobs at the same time
>Rented first apartment together
>Bought first apartment together
>Bought first house together
>Bought (the worlds best) dog together

Needless to say all our good and bad memories for almost a decade involve the other person, and to be honest I do not dare to think about what kind of mess my life would be like today if it were not for her. (Probably job-less Hobo or drug abuser)

We broke it off a couple of days ago and both of us agreed that we were more friends then anything else and that it would not end well if we kept this relationship going.


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>>19789446
its not funny, you have no idea whats it like being in a relationship, you dont know whats it like to be with ppl and you make this disney picture that 2 ppl have in common if they agree on everything like robots, your emotional maturiy is of a 6years old trying to find buddies to play with
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>>19789446

>Why would you even break up in the first place?

Because apparantly both of us have the same flaw.
We could not appreciate what we actually had, and instead focused way too much on our separate interests, thinking about children and so on.

Maybe we both got spooked about the possibility on children since we turned in to "comrades" with extremely stable lives, but little passion for each other.

Both of us had a good time, and both of us are really hitting a low-point right now since we are now realizing what we have done.

We have told some friends and our families so that we cannot chicken out and back-track on the decision if we suddenly would regret it.

Unfortunately I can honestly say that I really do, and it seems like she does as well, but it is to late to change that now.
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>>19789453
No, I never said something about always having the same opinion, although it can easily happen 80% of the time.
You talked about arguments, temper tantrums if you want. Mature people discuss their points of you and find compromises.
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>>19789463
Could you elaborate? Having 2 lives that run separate that entangle on a lot of points sounds like a pretty mature relationship
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>>19789538

Example:

>We both enjoy movies and other low-paced activities
>We both enjoy having animals
>We both enjoy spending time together

But

>I enjoy camping trips in the forest
>I enjoy competition shooting/gun collecting
>I enjoy computer gaming

>She enjoys reading

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GIOYC

How many dating profiles is too many?
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>>19789534
>implying it hasnt happend already at the hospital. The sequel is coming.
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I'm miserable. I'm starting to realize that being alone most of the time is really fucking me up despite telling myself over the years "I don't really need this, I don't". One day of attention fucks me up bad. I've surrounded myself with people who just know I can't do shit. I can't try shit. I get surrounded by women because I'm a pussy. Some dude goes "damn man, you be pimpin'", nah. It's just I'm so fucking harmless that they wouldn't expect me to try anything. It's sad.
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I'm worried about you. You're a really great friend and I hate to see you like this. I just want to know if you're okay.
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>>19789549
You gotta post initials, anon
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I have asked out two friends of a friend and both rejected me. Now I want to ask out another friend of hers. If I get rejected I fear that my friend will think I'm a huge pathetic loser that is desperately asking every girl out and failing at it.

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Last summer i started dating my best friend. We has plans to move on and be roomates before we started dating but eventually did around november. Acouple months passed and we started falling apart and ended up calling it quits because she thinks we'd be better off as friends and that she couldnt love me how i love her and thinks thats not fair to me which seems like a cop out. Long story short i cant stand living woth her or her kid anymore. No matter how much i try to think im over her im seeing that i still have a strong physical attraction to her and i still care for her. But her kid is a complete asshole and wont behave for shit. Hes gone as far as slapping me in the face while im sleeping and dumbing gatoraid on me when im waking up. Ive tried talkimg to her about it and every time ots just "oh hes just a kid he'll grow out of it" ive done nothing wrong to this kid and even gone as far as welcoming the idea of being his step dad while i was dating his mom. Im just tired of being constantly stresses and depressed and i wanna get out but i know she wouldnt be able to support herself where we currently live if i did. I NEED HELP PLEASE. Pic unrelated just thought id throw a meme on here.

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GUIDELINES:
Before you post a question, check the FAQ to see if it's already been answered.
Keep questions short for more answers.
If you're not going to like honest answers, don't ask your question.
And please no derailing arguments.

FAQ:
>Do girls/guys like <insert specific look>?
>What do girls/guys think about <an insecurity including, but not limited to: looks, physical traits, personality traits, virginity or otherwise lack of dating experience>
There is no one answer. Preferences differ, but complexes are always a turn-off.

>I'm shy and afraid of people/rejection. What do I do?
Get over it by practising and exposing yourself to it, little by little, step by step. There is no single magical moment that will instantly change you forever.

>I like someone. What do I do?

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>>19789492
disregarding redpill/incel bullshit and silly absolutist claims, that is definitely true.
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How do most men get so many relationships so easily? Do they ask out many girls? I feel like most men probably don't get rejected. And I've never personally seen or heard a guy that isn't me asking a girl out.
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>>19789492
I agree.
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>>19789551
In my experience they don't really get rejected because they only move in on girls they already get promising signs from. A coworker, friend (of friends), fellow college student they sit with, flirt with, talk to and so on until they ask them to hang out.

Having said that I'm a Eurofag and actually asking someone out on a date is less common here anyway and more something for cold approaches.
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>>19789570
I see. But if it doesn't start by asking out then how does it start? What kind of "move" do guys do?

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How do I pick up girls in bookstores without coming off like a creep?
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The magazine section. Start the conversation by pretending that you're interested in the magazine/topic that she's browsing.
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Ask her for a personal favorite, if she isn't dismissive discuss it in depth and try to build rapport.

This is the only way and it's still a little bit off (especially going to a book store just to pick up girls there). If you must have a girlfriend who reads you're much better off looking into a local slam poetry scene or reading circle.
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How do I pick up girls in the metro station?
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>>19789553
>the magazine/topic that she's browsing
What if she's browsing the lesbian one (pic related)?
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>>19789545
I used to be into PUA, here's a way of doing it we were taught to, as a form of cold-approach for beginners :

1. You pick up one or two books
2. You approach the girl, but not facing her because you don't want to put pressure on her. The key is you don't direct your penis towards her. You put yourself next to her first and start talking to her turning your head towards her above your shoulder
3. The plot here is : " I have been invited to the birthday party of a girl who is the friend of a friend so I don't know her well but she's a girl and she's [approximate age you think the girl you're talking to is] and I figured you were probably around that age so I wondered if you could help me pick a book I can offer her "
4. Then you show her the books you've picked (preferably some book that's trendy at the moment, something people are likely to know about), ask her if she's read it/if it's good, or if she's got something else in mind, etc.

There. Don't quote me, my english sucks obviously, but you get the general idea.

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>I feel like my relationship with my gf is gonna end soon
>When my last gf dumped me I was a depressed binge-drinking wreck for nearly 2 years, didn't really feel happy until I met current gf

How do I avoid going back into this spiral? I barely speak to my family.
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>>19786709
>>I feel like my relationship with my gf is gonna end soon
>>When my last gf dumped me I was a depressed binge-drinking wreck for nearly 2 years, didn't really feel happy until I met current gf
>How do I avoid going back into this spiral? I barely speak to my family.

Are you scared she will dump you or that you will
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>>19787897
10 minute walk from my flat to hers, less if I walk briskly

>>19787913
She keeps asking me if we would stay friends if things didn't work out between us, asking me if I would move to Germany with her so she can get a better job when she knows I wouldn't be able to get a good job there and other little things that make it seem like she wants to end it
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bump
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Lol. Let me guess: you have no university degree, have been a NEET for a long time and you have, at best, a mediocre job right now. How many did I get right? You're an emotionally dependent cuck. Get cucked. Men like you shouldn't exist
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>>19789161
I have a degree (will be starting a masters soon) and I've been continuously employed since graduating, but thanks for yoir concern

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>>19789548
Write your goals down. For me, it’s okay to use the notes app on my phone. Make sure it is clear and defined as to what you’re trying to accomplish. Next step is to just get out there and just do it.
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Time management and goals setting. You usually have to learn this survive the final year of college.

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I have a date on Thursday at 1 for this sushi place, I thought I had the day off but apparently I'm scheduled to work from 2-10. How long do these first dates usually last? I already kinda know her, she's a coworker. I just want to know if I should let them know ahead of time that I'll be a few hours late or if I should just call in sick on the day.

also I would just reschedule but I already changed the time once and I don't want to look like a fucking freak
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A few hours late is your only option, since there's no way you could get away calling in sick while dating a COWORKER. She will spill the bean.
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Few hours late? That's not late, that's a separate event.

You could maybe hide it by coming up with something else that's better to do later in the day.
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>>19789493
First dates are super quick and idk if you should fuck right away it depends. If that happens though shes not the type to marry so aim short term if it seems right. Have fun!
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>>19789508
good point, though she's pretty quiet, not sure if she'd say anything
>>19789515
I've seen people do it here before, the managers are pretty chill so if you give notice it's usually fine. I just don't want to inconvenience anyone by going later than I thought I would
>>19789544
I would be very surprised if we fucked on a sushi date

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I have little to none regard towards the health or integrity of myself and others.

What is the most effective non-illegal method to make the highest quantity of money in the shortest time?

Complete /adv/ newfag, but i need to get this off my chest an screaming into the void of 4chan seems like the best way to go about it.

Im a 20 year old Australian visiting distant family in Italy. One of my distant cousins wives (NO blood relation) has been flirting with me pretty hard and admittedly I have been flirting back too. Shes an absolute milf 43 years old but takes care of her self and looks 30. She also has a 5yo kid. Note that I am not a robot and do have experience "closing the deal" on dates so to speak. What the fuck do I do? Here is some additional detail.

>lunch at her mother in laws house
>she is serving meatballs
>I ask for one extra since im trying to gain a bit of weight while here
>we both joke around about me getting strong and she grabs my arm

>later on
>im talking to some of the older relatives
>they ask if im eating enough (stereotypical italian grandparent style)
>she interjects and says I had "two big balls" and winks
>i smile and brush it off


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>>19788680

Yep.. Lots. What do you want to know?

>she, 43, wants my 20yo dick
>that's why she's so flirty

Not always. As they get older some women shrug off inhibitions and act out their fantasies in a safe way. You, being part of the family and being young, are the butt of her play. If you make a move on her, expect to laugh (nicely) and refuse. She wants to tease you as fun.
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>>19788869

How do I get from A to B? Do I have a chance? Or should i should mirror her and safely live out my fantasies by flirting and not make any moves?

Also feel free to share any stories.
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Bump
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I'd be afraid she's just teasing, thinking you won't make a move so she's got nothing to lose.
I'd go with why anon above says about lessened inhibition. Typical Italians and all that.
Good luck though!
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>>19789207

Thanks mate. I have my plan of attack for tomorrow, if the thread stays bumped ill give updates. Until then any of you lurkers should tell any stories of teasing milfs.

My father's an alcoholic. What resources are there to help him help himself? What resources are there to help me cope with the situation?

California for reference, if that makes a difference.
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>>19789106
Alanon and friends of Alanon I think. I don't know what the name is but there's one for friends and family.
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>>19789118
I can't really offer much more than support. Sentiments don't really mean much when I don't have any actual answers. "Let me help you get into a program" is pretty worthless when I don't have a program to recommend. That's what I'm sort of looking for, and figured I'd just start by asking here at the very least.

There's a part of his self-destructive psychi that's very "there's no coming back," "this is who I am and you can't change me," and "I don't care what happens to myself." If we're at a stage, it's the "cutting him off from our life" point. Alcoholism being on top of a whole heap of mental issues.

>>19789127
Thanks.
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AA can be really helpful. It also depends how much alcohol hes consuming every day. Alcohol withdrawal can kill you if it's bad enough. My grandpa had to detox at the hospital. They gave him certain medications to make it easier on his body.
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>>19789106
AA for him. It's not perfect, but it works

AlAnon for you, whether or not he goes to AA. It's for friends/family to help you cope
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>>19789106
Weed as substitute, there's also the controversy about baclofen



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