>>34450489
just kill yourself at that point

>>34455006
If you pronatalists love children so much, lead by example by raping and impregnating every woman in sight.

>>34455006
I didn't say existence is immoral. I said reproduction is immoral.

>>34454930
No, I believe that God exists. Just not the Abrahamic or Karmic gods.

I'm God.

>>34450489
how old are you

>>34453734
As much as I hate to say 'just be yourself', in cases such as these, it is what it is. There is a reason why she might like you, after all, so in principle, if you stay on course and act as you usually do, it should be alright.

But in terms of dates and stuff, it's usually a good moment to learn more about the other person, so enjoy the moment, do some fun activity together, talk about it, get to know the things she likes or dislikes, her opinions and thoughts, how she's faring, things like that. Also talk a bit about yourself, commentate on the things she says, etc.

Good luck mang, don't stress about it too much

>>34453793
That makes sense to a point, but I actually fainted because I ran out of things to talk about with someone during conversation after like 5 minutes and I couldn't think of anything.

>>34452890
>people I don't know, I don't know what to talk to them
100% normal and universal. It would be a bit unusual if you COULD chat easily with total strangers.

>>34453878
This >>34453920. It's normal to feel like you don't have anything to say to someone you don't know. There are some people who are extremely talkative with everyone, but most other people only feel comfortable speaking with people they feel that share interests and stuff.

For example, the only friend I had in college. Neither me nor them were very talkative. One day I looked at their notebook screen during a presentation, and I saw an icon for a game I played. After the presentation I was a bit nervous but decided 'screw it, im just gonna do it' and asked them about it, and ever since that moment we became friends.

What I mean by this rambling is that sometimes it just takes a little something to get the conversation going.

Bump

>>34455388
>"a middle class girl will go for a poor dude every single time" sound like an exaggeration even for hustle life scammers who try to sell you that you can bang a millionaire heiress if you pay for their course, you gotta be kidding if you actually believe that

I believe it because I've lived it and seen it happen so many times throughout my life. Remember I'm not a statistic thinker, I only rely on my lived experiences to inform me.

>I'm starting to believe that you're making this all up and you don't actually leave your room.
Would you prefer if we compare dicks and size up our portfolios of how many women we've been with respectively? Or would you refuse that in favour of number crunching and statistics data?

>does it happen all the time and do they reject middle class guys every single time if a poor dude is there? not even close, not even close enough to say "every single time" was a literary license.
What does it matter if I used literary licence? Did you forget you posed to me a hypothetical involving a woman choosing between two suitors who both had the exact same personality and/temperament? And you're ruffled because I didn't treat your unrealistic hypothetical realistically in my response?

>>34455390
>worst part is they think everyone should adhere to their weird idea of class and their fantasies about poor people working directly for rich people fixing things up and stuff, it's all very childish
It's the middle classes who deal in class fantasy. Every single cartoonist or satirist or class propagandist is typically some spectacled middle class guy with too much time on his hands. And every time the middle class fantasist assumes the role of a social justice type, saviour of the poor working class morons below him lol

>>34455404
you did not tell me how old are you
all your opinions sound very young and naive
you being a decent poor dude who can get rich girls wet from time to time doesn't deny that that is not a common occurence
it's as if I said "every guy from my country is left handed" because me and a couple of my friends are left handed
that's just stupid, your personal experience is one thing but your personal experience doesn't deny reality, your statement sounded like you tried to extrapolate a single weird outlier experience and make it the common denominator, that doesn't work like that
same about your class opinions, very childish and informed on very little experience.
I'd tell you to read more as most people gain knowledge from reading but you seem to deny reality and only rely on your weird personal life experiences to judge the world
see, this is the kind of bullshit we have to put up all the time when dealing with poor people, do you think someone rich would care to explain this all to you in detail? you'd be fired and replaced in a blink without receiving any payment
it's funny you think rich people would even spoke to you guys, much less hire you directly, you're all so deluded and maybe because you have so little education have your own idiosyncratic ideas about the world, people get paid to deal with that shit.

>>34455512
>I'd tell you to read more as most people gain knowledge from reading but you seem to deny reality and only rely on your weird personal life experiences to judge the world

Books are written by people who actually had a life and lived it. Books are someone else's "weird personal life experiences" on page. If you can't understand that then you need to rethink a few things. Example: A man can read 1,000 books about tree felling or rock climbing. But it won't matter, because unless he has actually done that through experience the man has the knowledge of someone who reads zero books. Experience is the primary font of knowledge. If this were not true, you'd have no books to read. Because those who lived an experience had lived it and then wrote their books. Not the other way around.

>do you think someone rich would care to explain this all to you in detail? you'd be fired and replaced in a blink without receiving any payment
The rich person wouldn't be a smug one pretentious to begin with. We'd just get on with life. Working classes have a reason to get up out of bed, to avoid poverty. Upper classes have a reason, to maintain their financial empires. Middle classes? Who fucking knows. Probably to read books all day

>>34455512
>>34456474
And if you walk away thinking middle classes aren't the ones obsessed with class, hit ctrl + f to search the thread. Search the word "class". Then tell me who brought up class in the first place.

Anyway thread got derailed, the point I am trying to convey is a woman is a woman is a woman. Class doesn't change 300+ thousand years worth of sex psychology out of the female just because humans formed a middling class in the past 3 centuries.

>So like is hypergamy a desirable trait in women?
Hypergamy isn't a trait, it's female nature (at least, in today's sexually selective society.)
>What's the difference between that and gold digging?
Gold digging = being with a man primarily for his money.
Hypergamy = constantly on a lookout for a better option (can be genetics like taller man, better looking man etc.) Hypergamy can include gold digging, but not vice versa.

>>34455956
Or how about like... you know... a man with a good personality?

>>34455002
hypergamy isn't about money

>>34455985
"Personality" is hogwash. Your "personality" is determined by your attractiveness (i.e. your looks and height). Trying to develop a "good personality" is squandering your efforts on someone who doesn't give a fuck about you.

>>34456321
lmao typical 4chan bullshit

>>34456304
If you are dating someone then porn usage should not be a thing. It's cheating. Takes a single communication to say it's not okay.

>>34456469
He has totally eliminated it (so he says) for a while now, I just don’t know if I should trust him still~ he also just acts kind of cold and distant? Almost feels like he’s lying to me and can’t connect on a deeper level. I don’t know how else to explain it. Things just feel off.. I’ve always been right about my gut feelings.

>>34456358
I’m also scared I’m not going to find someone like him, he’s really smart and knowledgeable and he does a lot for me now but I can’t seem to shake what he did before, I have a really hard time trusting him and it keeps nagging me. Then he gets mad at me for questioning him and not trusting him.

>>34456470
He is either honest or not. Had he lied to you before? Has he snuck around on his or your device? Has he been manipulative? Any of those and it's cooked and you are better off moving in while you are still young, be with a real man and not pollute yourself more with this boy. The longer you pollute yourself the less likely you will get to be with the best possible man next.

>>34456304
Tldr

Neither of you are based

Well, I understand your lWell, I understand your I am really happy that you are processing a lot day by day as a person as giving changes for the better even in your own decision-making, we always change you are right about it because every decision and new way of thinking that we make is a new change

You can tell yourself you are different but the fact is you are the same. A lot of that mentality you have is cope and self soothing to escape accountability

>>34455916
>Can't say I'm the same from the one I was from 2 years ago. However, I really need a drastic change of view.
Pressure makes diamonds. You don't change until you need to.
This sounds counterintuitive, but put yourself in a situation that creates stress and forces you to change yourself to account for the situation.
Don't expect change to happen on its own either, you must be willing and receptive to change.

>>34456209
>You can tell yourself you are different but the fact is you are the same
>A lot of that mentality you have is cope and self soothing to escape accountability
Are you the same from 10 years ago?
20?
Accountability is recognizing what you did was wrong, and changing yourself to never do it again.
People who do not acknowledge what they did was wrong, and hold themselves accountable, never change.

Yes, there are people who know what they did was wrong, but don't change. They didn't HOLD themselves accountable. That's the difference.

>>34456318
Yes , I stand by what I said. Unfortunately others attempt to incite the narrative that there is a drastic change for their own advantages and manipulations.

The truth is
>You can tell yourself you are different but the fact is you are the same. A lot of that mentality you have is cope and self soothing to escape accountability

The only thing to fear is a recursive fear of fear.

>>34455524
And yet almost everyone ends up losing in the long term due to irrational risk aversion.

>>34447594
>>Extremely fucking loyal
You can really tell who hasnt had a girlfriend before.

>>34447594
Don't do what I do and spend 3 years living through BPD hell just because she's hot and the sex is the best you ever had.

>>34447594
>>Extremely fucking loyal
If she actually has BPD, no she isn't

>>34447939
There is no treatment for BPD

>>34455716
This, but 10 years and ended in discard/ghosting

>>34456366
that's not what innocence means at all
even if you become a voluntary at a shelter, if you've seen what humans are capable of during war, that innocence is lost, there's no going back
innocence is a one way street

>>34456361
You're mentally disabled. No, you are not a 5 year old and you shouldn't try to be.
Are you christian? Do all christians want to act like they are underage?

>>34456361
You can't be virtuous without the knowledge of vice. Innocence can only come from having the freedom to choose evil, while choosing only good. A child isn't innocent or morally upright, just incapable.

>>34456389
You're confusing innocence for ignorance. Knowledge is a one way street, but more knowledge is always a good thing. Even knowledge of evil merely teaches you to be more compassionate and caring. You can't get your ignorance back, but you can always strive towards perfect gentleness and love for all life. That's what it means to be innocent.

>>34456361
You never had innocence in the first place. Nothing was lost. Only naivete. Although you're still naive. You can only be innocent when there is both innocent and guilty to define the thresholds of what is innocent and what is guilty. Your definition of guilty is flawed, hence your definition of innocent is also flawed, by association. Hence you operate on false premises.

>>34452694
Just ask the person if they want to go out! It's really simple and if it doesnt turn out well the person is a DICKHEAD and you dont need to spend time with them

>>34454972
1. I don't want to
2. Even if I did want to go out with any of the girls, if they said no I would still have to be in class with them. It would turn extremely awkward.

>>34454035
They know who I am. I've spoken to them before very little.
But only when I was forced to do groupwork with them.

>>34452694
>How do you start talking to someone you've been in class with for almost a year now?
I remember, I was really into a girl at highschool. Incredibly slender, short, beautiful.
So, I decided to send many people (indvidually, of course) an email of some shitty knock-knock tier joke, that conveniently was also sent to her
She thought it was funny.
Then I replied and used that as a way to start talking to her (eg. "Wow! You're the first person who laughed at that, blah blah blah"). Which then became in person chats
We became close friends and now have been dating for over 4 years.

It just takes confidence and charisma, desu.

>>34456309
>It just takes confidence and charisma
True, but that's the hard part.

>>34451499
I won't read a be me thread because it indicates a hopelessly disorganized mind so nothing can be done.

>>34451499
some people are just like that, not much to be done
sometimes you see someone's life and say "yeah, that poor kid had no chance"
but other times it's just like that, people are prone to do weird shit sometimes, they don't feel ok with their normal reality to say something
I tried to date a cute girls some 15 years ago and a short while after the came out as a lesbian
ok, a big loss but at least she's still cute
slowly over the years she became a transvestite, would dress and act like a dude
eventually transitioned
she was actually cute, slender, sweet face, cute body, nice ass, all the package
she now looks like a drug dealer of cheap drugs, terrible choice of clothes and fashion as a man
in my country going full transexual is social death so it might as well be a death sentence
she had it all as a girl and here we are, she now looks like one of those dudes you see on a vice documentary.

dude i'm so sorry

>>34451499
This sounds made up. Because if what you say is true then this fictional person will have been responsible for the deaths of thousands of people.

>>34455831
she hasn't murdered anyone (not that i know of), but she deals mdma/lsd/psychedelics/cocaine in large quantity. i'm talking 200kg~ at a time.

>>34456217
Delete the apps.

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>>34456217
>What would be the best way to solve this?
I can give you a million routines and say "Break this up into 5 things, do this at 6:00 AM everyday, take a shit at 12:00 PM every Sunday" and other shit like that
But to be honest, after the 2nd week you'd give up and come back here asking for more help, and it'd be an endless cycle.

What you should know anon is that your body needs a stable routine, it relies on muscle memory.
If you stray from your pre-existing routine too hard and too fast, it'll snap back and make it even harder to leave.
So the thing you have to do is examine why you even need the phone.

Dopamine? Mindlessly just filling time? What is it that you want? Try and fill it with something else.
Again, don't try and replace every single time you want to use your phone with a different task, it'll become tiresome after a while.
Maybe every now and then, when you get the urge, take a walk instead of scrolling, or listen to some music.

Eventually it'll get easier as you fill in more urges to scroll with walks or tasks or even finally doing your homework.
Again, don't rely on what people say is a "Dopamine detox routine" or whatnot.

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You need a "fix" of information, but your own source is this "junk food" type. You need a denser concentration and dosages of "information". Identify what information you are "missing". Find ways to fill that gap in the fastest, most efficient and comprehensive way possible. Do it.

Maybe you're ugly and unapproachable, ugly people need to try harder and take the first step. but since you're already in your 30s you also need money and your own place to even have a chance with 4 out of 10s single mothers. That's pretty much your dating pool now. Or just forget about relationships and go to Tailand for cheap whores

>>34455552
Maybe you just don’t know if they’re attracted to you or not? Like often times girls are scared to look at guys they find attractive. Also girls are complimented a lot and can afford to just not pay attention to people around them, so if they don’t look at you it’s prob on them. I bet someone will like you anon

>>34455552
Don't care about Women and live your life.

Ah, I was writing while I was busy, but when it came to psychologists, my parents said that they are shit and they are useless, and not even psychiatrists, that is to say that my problems ended up being minimized to this day.

>>34455930
>>34456024
I think Ideally it's best to see both when possible. The Psychiatrists will diagnose conditions and prescribe medication when needed, and the psychologist talks and helps you reflect about stuff.

Did you ever go to a psychiatrist, or just to a psychologist?