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How do I draw a fucking car without having to spend an hour drawing complicated grids and boxes
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>>3684264
>draw the rest of the fucking owl, except it doesn't even show you the first step of drawing the owl
th-thanks
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>>3684195
Oh wtf, that drawing is mine. If someone else post it means that I made it?
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>>3686254
>>3686254
I did this car sketches for the 2017 inktober. I've gathered some references and just tried to copy them.
First by drawing the overall shape with a large brush and reducing the opacity of the layer when I was happy with the proportion/perspective then, traced it over with a square-ish brush to get the final lines.
With the lines finished i experiment with the black shapes, to see where they fit and help with the overall depth.
But I did it in a dumb workflow, cause I didn't used a grid or cubes, meaning that I didn't learn much about perspective.
Oh, the final touch is to erase some of the lines or the black spots to give a "noisy" look.
Hope it helps.

(Btw rally racings from the 70s-90s have a really nice aesthetic, search for them to get some inspiration. I would start with some group B cars. GL)
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>perspective is stupid, don't waste your time to learn how to measure boxes and shit so you can eyeball them with good enough accuracy

>how do I eyeball forms in perspective?
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>>3684195
1)Draw 100 cars
2)Draw a car

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Any perceived efficacy is due to the phenomenon known as 'regression to the mean' together with a ritualistic participation mystique, an enhanced 'placebo'. Millions of children are having their brains permanently damaged before they've even had a chance to develop. @PoetryNotPills

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>>read loomis
>> got to draw a vox.

Don't get me wrong, it's good advice for absolute beginners, but when op is struggling with specific things like the arm or coloring it's stupid. Or worse when they are struggling with applying what loomis says.

Yet lots of anons seem to think it's great advice...
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>>3685937
>>>read loomis
How dare you.
Loomis is the definition of the straight white male art style.
Why would you want to emulate the art of the oppressors?
You may as well be emulating HITLER.
So fuck off, you cishet white fuckboy, unless you're female and/or non-white. which in that case I'm sorry for everything I said against your beautiful person so please express your no-whiteness/femininity safely and proudly <:)
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Loomis is good, bridgeman is good, Hogarth is good, life drawing is good, 3D conceptualisation is good, western perspective drawing is good. Combine all of these in your first forays into art and you’ll make unbelievable gains that will apply to pretty much any specialisation of drawing you go into, whether it’s portraits (enjoy your good sense of depth and emotion), concept art (enjoy your convincing and exciting 3D images) or stylisation (enjoy your shorthand versions of the human body because you know exactly what you can leave out and get away with, and how the body works)
>Loomis man bad
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>>3685937
If someone claims to have read loomis but can't even draw with basic tridimensional shapes, there is no advise you could give him. Anything an anon could say it's already better explained in the book.
More often than not it's just faggots not actually reading or practicing and coming here wanting other anons to spoon feed them fundamentals.
I'm not gonna waste my time explaining how vanishing points or ellipses work to a faggot that claims to have read Scott Robertson.

Think for yourself for once.
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>>3686027
Whats her instagram? Shes pretty.
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>>3685937
Actually it would greatly help the dude with the arm problems to draw boxes.

Finally I know you are a retarded "just copy manga" loser, but Loomis has a book for anatomy and another book for color and composition. So read Loomis reaches a bit more than just drawing boxes. Next time actually read the books, not just look at the pictures and you will realize that read Loomis means "you are struggling with fundamentals, why don you take some time to actually practice isolated fundies? Oh those Loomis books actually feature material of said fundamentals, try reading them pal!"

Of course its too much to ask to retards like you

Be specific if you request something: post the cover, book's title, artist's name...
Please be patient, board is slow, someone may answer you a week later.
Please search in the thread and links below before asking for something, it may well already be there.
All MEGA links SHOULD be cloned, they die every time they're posted here.
If any of the links expires or breaks, please inform of it.
Can't find something? check vk, rutracker, ehentai, cgpeers, etc

> Beginner essentials
https://mega.nz/#F!sSYAxKqb!f2gWy-eQZJNvRfiUTu1ASA
See https://pastebin.com/riFtG6n0 for details

> Main Book Links
http://pastebin.com/VG8dcWcf
Artbooks:
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/17axpf4d7k05u/artbooks#myfiles

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>>3685047
I thought they only had the Hyrule book uploaded, not the BotW one. Guess I'll check it out. Thanks!
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I'm looking for any of the Dai Gyakuten Saiban artbooks or the Layton vs Ace Attorney one. I really love the character design made for those games.
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Did someone post Pen and Ink by Yasuhiro Naito? I couldn't remember if they did, I was going through the archive and didn't see anything.
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>>3675540
Hyper Angle - Muscle Battle. Lots of fighting poses.
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doubt this one will ever get done but worth a shot I guess.
'Infinite Space Material Collection' artbook, related to the DS Game 'Infinite Space'

>10-15 print sales per day
how are you holding up ya fucking cishets?
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>>3686103
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>>3686103
post an example of yours
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>>3686103
is it better to start selling prints right away or should i wait until i have a decent following. Currently i have about 300 on ig, so i think no one would care atm if i put any of them out.
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>>3686230
I don't see anything bad with doing it too early
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>>3686255
Do you guys outsource your prints or have your own printer?

Hyper stylize it beyond your comfort zone
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>>3685382
I wouldnt really say your picture is realistic.
If its not realism its style.
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>>3685155
nazi girl looks like shit, but pepe is remarkably well executed
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>>3685523
Styled to reality
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I need to get back into painting more

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What are your tips to make a living out of art?
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>>3686194
draw/paint almost everyday
be interested in art
have fun in creating art
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>>3686237
This
This hits it dead on the nail

You have to be a businesman, provide a unique product that is worth money, have a brand and know what it's worth, sell it
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>>3686194
Be absolutely shameless
copy
cheat
steal
lie
anyone whoever made a fortune with art did one or all of those things
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>>3686194
have no shame
draw all the popular shit
take commissions (nsfw included)
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>>3686194
Be third worlder with internet connections. One cheap commissions could feed me for one or two weeks here.

Questions thread

is there anything I should know or be careful about when creating a paypal to get paid?
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>>3684189
Książki Loomisa masz po polsku, ale to chyba tyle.
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>>3684189
Ja pierdole ale zjebanym trzeba być żeby nawet książki z obrazkami nie móc zrozumieć po angielsku xD twój Digart wiesz gdzie
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>>3686089
Ja rozumiem angielski doskonale ale chciałem kupić jakąś fizyczną książkę do nauki, którą by łatwo było znaleźć w Polsce zamiast zamawiać z zagranicy.
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>>3686249
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>>3686251
(You) too.

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Ive always seemed to have e very good understanding of psychology and how the human mind works, and im always talking people through thier issues. I think im pretty decent at art, and i could make it if i really busted my ass; but this could be another option and i was wondering if anyone here has ever tried it.
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I tried art therapy for a couple of weeks while getting treatment for anxiety. I would say go to it if you want to meet new people but dont expect it to improve your art skills. It's a place for people to chat, doing art is just an excuse.
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>>3686158
its always funny hearing someone whose never had the therapy experience telling other people what its like.

therapists don't tell you to do anything, they give you a space to air your thoughts, they may give you an alternate point of view you didn't think of, they may not say anything.

as for your problems
>>3686164
okay they don't magically disappear. well how are you going to live with that? that must be a difficult way to live? you obviously have some problems otherwise you wouldn't be so negative towards this thread.

>>3686172
yes I agree, its not an art class. but doing things around other people who are doing the same thing can have a benefit I think. as apposed to sitting doing it alone.
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>>3686164
Well if you have a caring friend that wants to listen to you then there is no need for therapy imo, but therapy is sort of a supplement if you don't have that. Maybe try journaling at least, I think most of therapy is just getting your thoughts in order. so maybe meditation too.
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>>3686138
thanks for sharing.
its cool; i wouldnt mind art not totally being the focus. I like talking people through thier issues and uplifting them and solving thier problems too.
>>3686172
Nah, i wasnt trying to improve my art, I was worried about not being able to just make it through my art alone and thinking about my other options. Again im not horrible rn and if i go to school for like illustration i could see myself being good, but id like to keep my options open.
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>>3685735
nothing wrong with that, ive seen a therapist myself, only thing i got out of it was that now im content with being foreveralone
only problem is it costs $$$ and insurance doesnt cover that

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some1 told me to come here

hlep;
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>>3685596
this is nice
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>>3684745
some mongoloid snowflake samefagging.
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>>3685934
You're not using those lines right. Learn to draw and use 3d forms to construct faces (or whatever you want).

>>3686009
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>>3685003
Picasso didnt died, he just accepted russian citizenship.

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The last few threads have been pretty good. Consider searching them.
https://warosu.org/ic/?task=search2&ghost=&search_text=&search_subject=art+supply+thread&search_username=&search_tripcode=&search_email=&search_filename=&search_datefrom=&search_dateto=&search_op=op&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=new&search_capcode=all&search_res=op

I just got a box of pic related and they're amazing. I mostly use dip and fountain pens, but fineliners work better at steeper angles and I love sketching with them. The nib is about the size of a 01 Pigma Micron, and it's incredibly stiff. If it holds up (and it feels like it hasn't worn at all after 3 pages) this is a great pen for $10 a dozen. The ink is water soluble and makes a cool blue/purpleish wash with a waterbrush. I'm definitely trying the original Razor Points next.
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What's the best method for mixing flesh tones in watercolor?
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How do I clean nibs? Phil's Black Magic ink dries super fast and it hardens on the nib even as I draw, when I get to cleaning I have to scratch it off with my nail.

Also is using nibs on tracing paper okay? I keep getting fibres on my tip but idk I might be pushing too hard
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>>3685087
you just get a pipette and add a drop of ink to the water in the brush.
you want darker add 2 drops.
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>>3686136
I have no experience in this but maybe keep a little dip of IPA alcohol. and wipe with tissue.
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>>3686118
Skin is seldom the local color, it's all about getting the values right.

For old school realism, I like working around burnt and raw sienna, venetian red, and ultramarine blue and tend to avoid bright yellows as they stain under the earth tones and make everyone jaundiced and asian. Really light touches of venetian red as a base coat make for a nicely ruddy complexion.

I usually mix something that's going to be the mid tone for the overall color temperature and lay it on slightly more saturated than a baked potato, sometimes blocking in color zones of the face and major shadows if theyre a very different color reflected from somewhere, then tint in highlights and shadows in comparatively more garish hues. Whether you start wet on wet to wet on dry or the other way around when blocking in features is up to you.

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Hey /IC/

I have a serious question, i met someone who ask and still asks for female "nudes" in an art group, for him to draw the photos and then upload them in the group. He keeps telling everyone that its more like to portray the artistic nude of the female body, and refers to the female members as "Models". But like i said before, he still asking and promoting this behavior and others are starting to follow him and convincing that is more for "arts sake", which I personally among other people do not believe. Do you find this as something good or right? on the internet there is enough material to practice anatomy, value and proportion... In my personal opinion, I think he's only looking for nude photos of the female members of the group, and he is using the "Art" strategy to get em...

Two Pic related. And to be honest this doesn't look like art at all.
He don't draw male figures because he keeps saying things like "the male body its too hard and complex to draw"
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>>3684776

Unless they are minors I fail to see the problem.
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>>3684876
its a facebook group anon. and its better if you just stay away. its not worth...
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>>3684897
I'll be the one to judge that, anon.
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Stop being new and lurk more, we dont care about creeps taking advantage of thots
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>>3684792
>>3684799
>>3684778
>>3684776

not to sound like a white knight - but message some of the girls in the group and tell them what you think, especially the ones who you know have dealt with this guy. Then leave the group. You can't do nothing if you think it's wrong. Tell them how you feel it's the right thing to do

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>>3684885
this

seems like a waste of time desu
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>>3684898
I mean you're right there could have probably been an easier way to make this and alsoadd some unique touch but doing it like this and having it be like this way was the point to me. Like if I used a filter or something to just make the footage look like this it wouldn't be the same. I even made it using a mouse, which is stupid but to me that's just adds to it. Just the idea of animating gameplay footage frame by frame.
Your idea sounds pretty cool and I'll give it some thought, maybe I can come up with something. Thing is I'm not a good artist at all and have trouble coming up with what to actually draw. What you're describing sounds good and puts an idea in my head but I don't know how do work with it.
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>>3684852
it's both
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>>3685041
Well it's all fine if you enjoy doing it but keep in mind that people seeing it won't know anything about it except what they see, they won't know how much time you put into it and it'll still look like something you just dropped a filter on :/

If you really want to do it frame by frame, find a reason to justify it
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>>3685041
>>3686195
i literally thought someone just filtered it

Looking for some, because women references are everywhere and it’s hard to find non gay/porn male references.

Looking for athletic or healthy male body.
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Any powerlifter/strongfat pics?
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>>3686040
no sadly.

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yo /ic/
Made a little tool to gather reference and study insect pics Peter Han style.
Let me know what you reckon
http://quickdraw.artdump.io/
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>>3680825
now I want to know what >>3679975 was
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>>3675058
Very nice! I'm an Entomologist by study and it pulls really nice reference images for insect families. I looked through some of the flies as an example (as finding good references for flies is always a pain) and you have some nice images. I really like how they show not only the color patterns (which aren't great, but a lot of students rely on b/c they're easy to see), but also include good up close side images which really show off the bristles and hairs more frequently used.
The only down sides really are that I can't get the "About" button to do anything and it's http instead of https.
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thank you op
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>>3675058
Its great.
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>>3675058
sugoi




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