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How do girls draw other girls?
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There's actually many well documented problems with porn. How much of it is based in intellectual and emotional investment is debatable but there is more than "she isn't hot"

also its relative to male porn, not relative to well written novels.
>As an average guy you'd mostly just be dissatisfied because your gf isn't as hot as your favorite porn star.
now, that's bullshit
Social pressure and conformity also play a big role in it for sure. Competition and sexdrive turn pussyhunting into a competition and if you have a circle of friends who have already gathered experiences with (((relationships))), they're going to go out of their way to drag you to parties and introduce you to girls out of some kind of sense of comradery. I know it's not pretty, but I'd say that being more of a blank slate when it comes to what you expect from relationships is no worse than having your head filled with horrible distorted caricatures of the perfect relationship that no one can ever hope to live up to.
he is absolutely right. makes perfect sense.

and you are being emotional, he's not something you want to hear, that's why you deny it.
Fat, Brown skin, squidward nose, hairy legs, pink hair

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Work in progress study, I can see loads of things wrong with it, asymmetrical eyes, values seem off to me, just overall not happy with it and could you some tips
post ref also you should have just posted in the drawthread
oh sorry, i'll post it there instead
Wow this is pretty darn good, little edit on the nose and that should do it. You should draw for me sometime

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Thanks for your replies.
This is actually an older version of this drawing where i didn't fix some things, like the guy on the left has no chin.
2/10 it looks like you understand anatomy but the linework is awful. Why are you pressing the pencil so hard on the paper? Everything looks stiff and uncomfortable. Use soft, flowing lines
stop chicken scratching
don't press down so hard when you draw. you can more easily fix things later if you draw lightly.

No need to thank me
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>Vilppu was young once.
I fucking love that guy
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wow, he has been a teacher all this time? bet he slammed a lot of young artist pussy at the time.
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>young artist pussy
Look at the chick next to him. Does she look like "young artist pussy" to you? Because she sure as hell doesnt look like to me.
I bet he got blisters all over his dick from banging all those mummies drier than a box of watercolors from 18 century.
He probably sprinkle salt all over his dick in hopes that who ever he fucks start foaming like snail or something.

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/ic/, I'm trying to improve this self-portrait but it isn't seeming to get better than this.

What do?
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Thanks anons, you've helped me a lot.
that looks cool man
There's a bunch of youtube tutorials like "how to draw realistic eyes", "how to draw realistic noses", etc. Watch those and see how people do it.

Don't expect to get everything all at once.
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lighten your grip and practice controlling your pencil. Try to replicate pic related. Doing a value exercise put down controlled lines and use hatching to achieve the desired tone. Constantly adjust as needed to get a smooth transition.
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Read Keys to Drawing, then read Mogilevtsev's Fundamentals of Drawing, do all the exercises, and you should be 300% better

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im going through erik olson's videos. does the cone of vision only apply to one point perspective, objects that are perpendicular to the picture plane, or do you use it for every drawing? Does the scale affect perspective or will a few cubs on my desk be drawn the same way as a city full of sky scrapers?

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Hey /ic/, I'm been wanting to learn to draw for a while and have decided it's finally time to start learning. I currently cannot draw whatsoever and the only material I've read on learning to is the beginners guide in the sticky.

Is starting with digital a good idea?
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I was expecting him to get run over or something
Traditional definitely, starting with digital will give you horrible habits.
Traditional is easier to learn with, no need to understand the program or work on co-ordination between your hand and the tablet (if it has no screen).

Plus, yeah you can buy all your shit from the dollar store like I do.
I'n my own experience I became too reliant on ctrl+z(undo) and layers to draw proper lines or really plan ahead. I've been trying to draw traditionally and it's a lot more difficult to make something cool. I really can't say which is better for progression considering digital is faster & forgiving medium and traditional is unforgiving which requires you to focus.

I think in theory if you get good with traditional it transfers over digitally, but not so much vice versa because you're so reliant on what digital can do for you.

So I lean towards traditional starting out, it will teach you have to think and draw properly like an artist.
Traditional, so no ctrl+z mistakes
With paper and pen, so no erasing mistakes

This will make you think before you make a line thus improving your spatial + coordination skills.

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>draw something in ink everyday
>take a picture or scan your drawing
>post it
>quote your post from the previous day

>follow this year's official prompt list https://www.instagram.com/p/BY6eKjZgJ1O/
>tag your art with #inktober2017 #inktober

Last thread >>3166184
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Only thing I like is the hair and shading.
How fucking shaky is your hand?
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Day 20 of Inktober
We hit bump limit. Is it too early to make a new thread?
i'm making one - standby
new thread - there aren't many of us left


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Hey /ic/ I'm currently an artist making their way through traditional art school (primarily 2d) and I've come into somewhat of an issue.

Now to give some context, my school is very traditional. We have no digital art classes aside from the typical graphic design classes and one digital photography class (it's less about the art and more about how to take good photography of a subject; portrait, store fronts, interiors and whatnot) No classes in digital painting, animation, 3d modelling, image manipulation, or anything.

So I'm in painting, all well and good- traditional skills are important and I really enjoy them, but I would like to do something different. Our assignment is to take two "Masterpieces", say Van Gogh's "Starry Night" and Whistler's "Portrait of the Artist's Mother" and combine them in some way while still having good composition, focal points, technique, etc. Being someone who is very interested in the digital realm, I of course want to take two digital masterpieces and bring them together.

The only problem is, due to my lack of formal education on digital artists, I've found that very difficult to do. I don't really know what artworks would be considered masterpieces or not. So I've come to you, /ic/, to give me suggestions on what art is groundbreaking nowadays, and (to make sure it fits within the rules) WHY they're relevant. After all, I need to explain to my art professor why they're masterpieces as well.

In terms of style I'm very much open to anything. I've featured an Alyn Spiller as my pic, and is something I really liked. He's been in the field and on some very important creations for a long time so I thought he might be relevant.
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The tongue shit really needs to stop being a meme.
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A good traditional artist can already has the skills to be a "digital" artist, all they have to do is understand whatever software they are using.
A lot of good traditional artists aren't able to make pieces of equal quality traditionally. They require more skills unlike the traditional artist which only requires more knowledge on whatever software they are using.
No. You are just minimizing the process of understanding the software, it takes the same time to understand oil painting for example.
So both can transition it just takes time.

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Hey, /ic/! How is everyone's day?
I've been contemplating on getting a tattoo for the last month or so, and wanted your opinions! It's nothing big, hopefully nothing very expensive, but I only wonder because I wanted to get it over a sleeve, and would it be best to get this now, and get the continuation of the sleeve after getting this, or getting this done while doing the sleeve itself?
Pic related, obviously, it's the rememberance ribbon from Final Fantasy 7, Avdent Children. Ff7 is a huge part of my childhood and I thought this would be a perfect reminder to it.
I only want to get the ribbon on the outside of my upper arm, so nothing is on the inside of my arm, the laces not to extend past the top of my elbow, with shading and full red ink.
What do you all suggest?
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Listin’ up, I’m a Tattooer and if your getting it over a current sleeve suck as a cover up, it’s going to look like shit. Honestly the ribbon Tattoo itself is a pretty dumb idea. Please spare me the “my body, my story” garbage. If your artist is capable he/she would be able to do the ribbon and some. Add flowers? Other things from the game. Make it look unique. Or just be a basic bitch, what the fuck do I know.
I'm enlisted, and live in on-base barracks. All money I get is mine to blow. Also, I'll be deploying in a year so I'll have enough money saved up from that to do whatever. Rent isn't even an option.
I like pennis n dicke n balls
This is my first tattoo, clean body. I could see adding more from the game, there's some things I could do with it. That would be cool. I haven't seen or heard of anyone with this tattoo before, and I mean shit, I'm not fat, so I know it wouldn't look exaggerated.
I mean, I could have been basic as shit and get my rate's emblem tattooed on the meat of my hand like everyone else in the Navy does, but I figured I'd do some gay weeaboo shit instead
Honestly man, don't get it and just save the money.
>All money I get is mine to blow.
Don't have that mentality like every other stupid fucker in the navy. I'm about to finish my first enlistment with over 60k saved up and without having to sacrifice on fun or hanging out with people because I didn't buy stupid shit. Put your money into those 3% navy fed certificates and when those are filled up look up investing and invest your money.

But then again you want to get that as a tattoo so you're probably an idiot and won't save your money.
if you like the art, get a tattoo.
fuck these other guys lmao

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I've been painting in Clip Studio Paint, which I understand uses RGB mode by default. Am I fucking up by not painting in CMYK?

I've heard has an inferior CMYK mode to Photoshop. Is this what people mean when they say they use Photoshop for 'colour correction' or is that some separate thing?
CMYK is for printing. Basic shit.
RGB is for digital
CMYK is for print
The differing way colours are mixed RGB-> additive colour and CMYK-> subtractive colour lead to both systems having their own colour palettes.
Colour Correction in PS is used if you want to convert from one mode to the other. Especially when converting to CMYK, PS tries to imitate on screen how the colours will look when printed.

It really just depends on what you want to do with your finished work.
If you know it'll stay digital, work in RGB, if you'd like to print it, use CMYK.

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my fanart , your score
+2 cute
-8 weeb shit

-6/10. Sorry
Perfect 10

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What's the worst advice you ever had?
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my body is ready
a rich history of nosey losing lol. they're fun, it's nice to see how the judges troll nosebro
Do you have a photo of that painting?
this was the best advice i was ever given

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Share your DA, insta, Patreon, tumblr etc.
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I wasn't really able to post much during the year because of medical issues but I'm pretty much fine now. I'll probably be a lot more active on my tumblr than my instagram though
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I don't really have a personal style and draw kind of all over the place please like
what's the advantage of tumblr over instagram? I tried creating an account but my first post won't even show up in searches
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Inktober's starting to wear me down lads. Dunno if I'll make it at this rate.
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Started a clothing company a few weeks back. I have a handful of designs done so far. What do you think of the new one I'm working on? Next step is adding color in photoshop.
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Awesome man, def wanna see how your designs turn out.
By digitizing i meant, do you scan them, photograph them, etc?

I have 0 experience with photoshop or any digital software and i was wondering whats the best way to get my drawings into my computer.....I've heard some people photograph them, or im guessing with a scanner. I can borrow my brothers DSLR, and i think my dad has a few scanners, but idk if they're fancy or if that matters.
Just visited your site. Dig what you're doing man, keep at it.

Gonna try and do something similar. I've been getting into the idea of doing ecommerce and entrepreneur shit in the past year.

I was gonna try dropshipping, then i decided to work on an ecommerce niche site instead.
I started fucking around with illustrator a little but im not a great designer so its been meh.

It got me back into drawing tho, after a 3 year long depression break; im really excited about it. Gonna try and up my chops in the next few months and then hopefully sell my own art on merch eventually.
ah gotcha! Since all my designs are hand drawn. I'll typically scan them and edit them on photoshop. I took some graphic design classes in high school but adobe illustrator has changed a lot since I last used it. With photoshop I can easily add color and shading/light. It might take more time than starting the drawing in illustrator but I also find that Illustrator loses some of the detail. You should upload some of your designs!
Man I totally get how you feel. I hit a deep depression a few years back. I always doodled in class and would sell small drawing to friends in high school. But shortly after graduating I started picking up a more nihilistic depressed state of mind. It was only a few months ago that my brother urged me to start drawing again and in a way I use it as a way to keep me distracted and hopefully overcome some of my addictions.
Gotcha, thanks. both of those replies were me btw.

Gonna try learning to paint on photoshop. Working with illustrator is fun too tho, learning curve hasnt been bad. Vectors are pretty easy to work with if you're making simple designs; i like how you can scale everything easily. Its also easy to download a shitload of free vectors and modify/combine them a little to make merch designs; like adding typography to vector images and backgrounds. Thats the more commercial approach i was going for at first, as far as targeting a "niche" audience.
Might still do that, but would eventually like start selling my own art too, its just not where i want it to be yet.

Thanks man, and best of luck with everything. Def keep the "business" side of things in mind, if you're trying to make money off it. Looks like you got a lot of shit down but obviously marketing, ads, social media, etc are huge when it comes to having a successful online business.
Yeah man it was great talking to you. Best of luck to you and your future endeavors! Feel free to message me on Instagram if you ever need someone to talk to.

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