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Post your current drawing here and give constructive critique to others! Don't take anything personal!
Please make sure your posted image is clear, downsized to around 1000 pixels wide, rotated to the correct orientation, and that any unused space is cropped.
If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.

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>>7132682
Consistency meaning that the lines all need to recede to the same vanishing point. The lines don’t seem to have one vanishing point

>how do you add form to hair?

Alphonso Dunn explains it better than I can

https://youtu.be/EGuYmqTDah4?si=-_jBR1H4EBDCmeJu

Also take a look at their hair in pic rel. The shading is used to indicate form, and the hair is broken into smaller, simpler triangular shapes that work together to create one large mass.

>he is just sitting on a desk

Okay, where is he? What’s he doing on the desk? Is he studying? Is he drawing? Is he mad at someone? Happy? Whose desk is it? His? His friend’s? Tell more of a story. All of this should be shown in the sequences
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>>7132818
thanks man, ill try to follow these as much as i can
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Sketch from yesterday. Pretty rough. Not sure if I'm going to do anything with it.
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>>7125459
I‘ve been thinking about trying this kind of brush for my lineart.. this looks really neat!

Someday I‘ll finish this one <3
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>>7130797
Yeah I get what you mean, I was thinking about it too, idk, I'm not a political person, I don't want to get in trouble for stuff I don't particularly care about, but it's just too funny

Deadly sin of gluttony

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**Art Supply Thread: Copic discontinued all the SP replacement nibs except for the 0.3 one Edition**
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>>7131542
>>Jelly roll- works a little, but not all time and is railroading.
08 is alright. Otherwise, white ink (kuretake) or white gouache.
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>>7131542
>>Signo Uni Ball- full of ink, but doesn't want to work
Remove the refill and submerge the tip, only the tip, in boiling water for a minute.
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Has anybody used Derwent inktense pencils before? If I try using a clean water wash over an area I've tried to fill in with the pencil, it shows the lines really strongly. I was hoping it would fill in any spots I missed rather than making them more obvious. Is there a better way to use them?
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>>7134119
If you want a soft gradient you need to lay down many very light layers and use more water than you'd use to reactivate watercolor.

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Serious question. I’ve watched a lot of mangaka content on YouTube and literally no one has a drawing/drafting table. Some use a wooden thing like the top of a podium that sits on their desks, some prop up a board with books, others just draw on the flat table. (Talking about traditional pen and ink guys here.) What gives? Are drafting tables hugely expensive in Japan?
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>>7131395
thoes are his Magi robes to protect himself from the affects of the evil spirits that are innate to this hobby.
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>>7130823
>You don't NEED a drafting table if you are paying attention to the distortion that would happen when you draw on a flat surface.
That's not why you use a drafting table. You use a drafting table to save your back from horrific levels of pain.
>>7131397
>yes i have.
No you haven't.
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I would imagine the tactile feeling of traditional tools has certain benefits that can't be replicated with software. Also once you are an expert at it, it really isn't worth trying to relearn from scratch because you will already be able to produce work quickly.
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>>7129267
Most started learning how to draw at like 8 by copying manga on their flat baby desks, so that's what they are used to when they finally take it seriously.
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>>7133648
Shut the fuck up, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

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There's a version 3.0 now? What the fuck? Didn't version 2 come out like just a year ago?
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They're getting desperate. They'll probably cave and add full blown AI soon
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>>7134053
Why would they need to cave? Don't they make the bulk of their money from studios?
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>>7133739

Why can't you faggots do your own research? They are doing fine as long as paypigs do their job.
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It keeps getting bloated like Photoshop
There's absolutely no reason to upgrade from version 1, just like Photoshop CS6 remains the best version.
>>7133922
exactly, all the "improvements" they make is just an excuse to higher ups to keep developers in employment
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So where is the cracked version

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For stupid questions and questions that don't deserve their own thread.
Post here if you don't expect your thread to reach 100+ replies.
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>>7133717
They're saying you're not going to make it, meaning you're a failure, and will always be a failure, and will die a failure.
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What do you guys do with pencil stumps too short to hold and draw with comfortably? Anyone got an idea for like a good simple DIY shaft/extender/holder you could stick these in and use with?
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>>7132992
It's not that i care what they like, but its more the fact that people are programmed to trample or sabotage things that are considered outside the norm, especially if my future colleagues are going to have the same ideas. I have nothing against leftists.
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>>7134095
I got one of these
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>>7132854
Searching lines are a thing. If you are not sure where a line should be, draw several close enough. About mistakes: I prefer to fix them on the same drawing. Using erazer or drawing over. Some instructors advice to redraw if you mess up bad, or can't get idea across from the first time (iterative drawing). This way you can gradually get where you want and also build more mileage.

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Thread to study the female body. Post your art, discuss artists, and post resources related to the subject of cute girls and beautiful women.

No NSFW, to differentiate from /sex/ /asg/ /other generals.

Rules:
>All art styles welcome so long as the focus is cutesy girls/ beautiful women. Nobody cares about east vs west debates.
>Males are welcome so long as the image remains female focus.
>For male focused thread post in /cgsg/.
>Do not take the bait or derail. Don't be a sperg.
>Don't fight about different women vs girls, Nobody cares.
>No trans/lolicon/futa/. Go to /sex/ or /lsg/ for that.

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Posting my texture brush doodles
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>>7131476
I think the crystals could have been drawn better, but I just wanted to draw for fun...
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>>7131477
cute but you should keep the lineart.
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Cross-posting my comic to csfg :)

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Moai drawing: Continuation thread
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drawing moai unironically made me better at drawing heads.
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>>7131891
That's the power of moai, keep it up bro
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>>7126960
cool sketch
>>7128573
all moai are welcome

>>7130798
Great head turn

>>7131579
jawbone

>>7131736
nice use of hatching
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>>7132470
Mewing paid off bros
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>>7132470
nice

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At what point do you stop saying "I can't draw" when other people ask about it?
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The japanese have artbooks that make it easy to draw while we Westerners are stuck with grotesque bodies
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I will consider myself an artist when I reach the same skill level as both the artists who encouraged me to start drawing and those who tried everything to stop me.

As long as I have not archieved that, I will still say I can't draw.
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>>7132412
No need to tell them anything, draw in public. Most people will be impressed with anything beyond stick figures.
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I don't like telling people I know that I draw, every time I post something to facebook I get people wanting me to draw something for them and I have to waste my time telling them no in a diplomatic way. I also just can't draw very well in general and don't really consider myself an artist. Like what is it about my figure studies that's making people think I can make a vector based logo for their small business.
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>>7133919
If only we had master teachers like Sensei Loomis or Senei Hamm.

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Hello. I'm trying to create a macrostyle [Roots: Groenism, Schulzism, Primitive Tezukism], but I'm having difficulty increasing visual entropy in a non-arbitrary way.

From a soft perspective: any tips for increasing entropy? Maybe through shadows/gradients?
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>>7132585
>what about things like rubber hose, Hanna Barbara

Exactly, those are beautiful macrostyle seeds, but due to the lack of general direction - direction endorsed by the keiretsu in Japan - they have remained half-developed without achieving their maximum potential. His balance and 'vibration' between simple and complex forms was not trivial, but neither was it exceptional. It's as if Tezukism had stopped reproducing in the 70s considering its peak to be Cutey Honey or Speed Racer.

I consider Termite'terrace'ism as the Western macrostyle that achieved the greatest development before being forgotten. Recent individual initiatives have tried to revive it (John K, VivziePop), but due to lack of balance they are empty efforts. A macrostyle only has scalability if it is balanced.

>even "anime" is a broadstroke term

Anime' is a misleading term, that's why I prefer to use 'tezukism' to refer to visual patterns based on the idiosyncrasies of Osamu Tezuka (which is also a 'fork' of rubber'hose'ism) and 'japanarts' (japanimation, japancomics ...) to refer generally to all creative output of Japanese origin regardless of its patterns. With these terms we can say that Evangelion and Anpanman are japanimation but not necessarily both are strong tezukism.

Personally, I am only interested in tezukism because it is the macrostyle with the greatest influence on the other trivial macrostyles of Japan.
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>>7132920
>I prefer to use 'tezukism' to refer to visual patterns based on the idiosyncrasies of Osamu Tezuka
you is a dumb faggit

Tezuka's artystyle was just as varied as any other - and others don't even even stick to it
check out this one pic here - his characters are so different, some would assume 3 different people drew them
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>>7132643
Danke. Draw her too make this esoteric thread at least worth something
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>>7133027
The main patterns of Tezukism are present in these characters: rubberhose mixed with naturalism (realistic anatomy), although in different proportions. For this reason it can be said that they are part of the same macrostyle. Furthermore, a macrostyle is not only distinctive visual patterns, it is also internal rules that anticipate a certain kind of creative output.

The world is varied, you cannot expect everyone to faithfully comply with the same physical traits. That only happens in unbalanced styles like Garfield or the Fairly OddParents who 'vibrate' in their own autistic symbolic universe, ignoring reality.

One of the things I criticize about modern Tezukism is that it has forgotten that flexibility of primitive Tezukism.
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>>7133027
>some would assume 3 different people drew them
some retards would. Those are all stock tezuka designs. Literally not!blackjack, not!astroboy, and not!disney-animal
If you wanted to post something by Tezuka that at least looled kimda different, you should have posted something from MW

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>>7130451
tell me more about her.
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>>7130451
The color scheme and composition are good, but you're relying too much on gimmicks like chromatic abberation and blur. It almost feels as if you want to hide your drawing under these effects. The colors you chose for the cel shading are rather dull, especially on her skin. If you look at real skin, it's translucent. Having a reddish shift from the base color is something that works quite well with skin under normal lighting in my opinion. Your linework is clean, but there are a lot of unecessary lines that don't really add to the design, such as those in the hair or the nonsensical folds. I think all in all you're off to a good start. It'd definitely help to look into the basics of figure drawing and color theory. There should be enough resources on this board to provide you with sufficient learning material
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>>7130468
Wow genuine critique
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>>7130451
Needs more Loomis.
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>>7130451
Comic?

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General dedicated to posting and discussing art of either:
1. Manmade objects, vehicles, tool, weapons etc. (of any kind and any historical era, as long as they fall in the ballpark of "technology") and fictional derivatives of such
2. Objects,vehicles, creatures etc. that aesthetically fall into the visual space of mecha/robot/artificial/cybernetics etc. regardless of level of realism.
Helpful to mention the level of realism, if any, you are taking into account in the art.
Old general resoruces (hopefully these ones aren't empty):

>Scott Robertson's How to Draw
https://e-hentai.org/g/1588796/313b11d676/
https://www.mediafire.com/file/a315b5xfrhmdhc2/Scott_Robertson_-_How_to_Draw.pdf/file

>Scott Robertson's How to Render: the fundamentals of light, shadow and reflectivity
https://e-hentai.org/g/1552736/5879054cf3/

>Cache of /m/ artbooks (Patlabor, Gunbuster, Muv-Luv, etc.)
https://mega.nz/folder/VBVDBICa#B9RTAhBwyo63KRJ_tTn9EA

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so good :)
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>>7129209
Your art makes me want to draw more.
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>>7130725
These look nice anon. The 2nd one has a nice finish. I guess yeah, sometimes you can't think of the right things to finish the image.
>>7131783
Neat. Do draw more, this is pretty cool
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>>7133387
Trust the plan
Also damn doing animations now?
Also a interesting idea i though of doing with this piece was doing a cut away, Ever done one of those?

But yeah, my main gripe is that it takes forever to go though "pixel by pixel", maybe I should sketch more. Also noticed that the SV-001 cant turn the turrent! How can it be a tank like this... oh no no no.
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old thread got archived and I can't remember which robos I posted already

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I fight so world accept beautiful appearance of darkness. When near monster, do not allow it to be a monster, but not hurt it more than needed, and then love it. For it is not a monster but the source of true love...
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>>7130185
...what
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>>7130185
Yes, my art it have vibe of tail... here... Dark tail...
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I am very brutally tested, every night, can I withstand insane fear but not hurt anyone. I know how to be weak, but kind, humane and brave. So I deserve monsters body.

Thank you.
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It will be possible for me, to see how happy those I love, despite I am monster. Greatest fear will be kept for myself.

Pic made by me. Thank yu.
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Who kind must also became strong. For for what all kindness if you can't protect what you love. Let the death itself protect what must never cross death line... The dragon.

Pic made by me. Thank you.

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No one is reviving the thread and I think it's so sweet that /ic/ has a space for this, so I guess it depends on me now
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>>7131478
I love the ocean...
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Another ocean...
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>>7124987
vulgar. at least furries are open with their smut and don’t hide it in clouds
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>>7131408
very pretty!

>>7124987
I wish I could see the furries lol, very nice trad anon

>thousands of drawing books on construction
>thousands of drawing books on anatomy
>thousands of drawing books on perspective
>thousands of painting books on how to paint from life
>...
>nothing on rendering from imagination
SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO PAINT FROM IMAGINATION
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>>7133690
Ron Tiner's "Drawing without a Model" would be one, no? He also wrote another called "Drawing from your imagination". Also the guy who did Keys to Drawing, Bert Dodson, also has a book dedicated entirely to doing imaginative drawing called "Keys to Drawing with Imagination".
So that's three just off the top of my head.
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>>7133899
Ron Tiner book looks horrible, anon. Don't just recommend books you found on google, without actually going through them yourself.
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>>7133690
>Thousands of books on how to cook steak
>Thousands of books on how to bake potatoes
>Nothing on cooking steak with potatoes
Literally just apply what you learned from those with your own ideas, I'm sure even (you) can come up with some shit and try to do it from memory.
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>>7133910
Have you gone through it though?
You can't just rate it based on the cover alone
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>>7133910
I decided to flip through it again to remind myself of how good it is. If you have no taste, fine, Tiner can be my little secret.

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So I'd like to experiment with some of these watercolors, but i don't particularly love any of the 3 sets of twelve available, nor do I want to buy all of them when they're new to me. I guess my question is, would getting just the primary colors be a decent start? Anyone with experience with these?
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>>7131349
>So I'd like to experiment with some of these watercolors,
Why oh why? They're dye-based, so the real use cases are narrow. Just build up your skills with regular watercolors, and don't lose time, money and space with useless material.

t. talking from experience
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Just use markers, those are liquid watercolors but they're dyes and the lightfastness isn't great.
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>>7131349
Just do it and post your work. Painting is about painting, not discussing pigments
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I like to color my ink drawings with ink dyes, I use the Pentel Aqua brushes, the lightfastness is alright, just keep out of direct sunlight, it's ok, I have drawings that were colored like that are 20 years old.
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I've worked with them. They're a bitch to work with. Mixing colors doesn't work because it seems like mixing oil and water together. You can't rewet them to reactivate them.
Really the only reason to pick them up is if you're looking to experiment with how old Marvel and DC comics used to be colored before digital.


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