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Yesterday on this board I saw a dude say something like "stop waiting until you get better and do something now".
So I decide to give a try on putting into work what I've learned so far and made this sketchy drawing on John Constantine with a few references.
I don't know if I can paint it yet, but I really like this one so far because I didn't know I could ever do something like this messy drawing.
But guys I need your critics to see with other eyes my mistakes and where should I put more attention.
I know the hand is messed up.
It's a cool drawing, but don't be a special snowflake, anon. There's a beginner board you can post to for critiques.
Oh sorry, I didn't saw that one, I'm not new to this board, but I'm new on interacting here.

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How do I get good at shadows and highlights?
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do still lifes from multiple angles at multiple times of day (if using sunlight for your light source) and observe the way light affects form. read scott robertsons How to Render.
learn how to draw
and by that I mean know how to construct everything and anything out of a few basic primitive forms (block, sphere, cone, cylinder) and learn the basics of how light and shadow work on those forms
once you realize that everything in the world can be constructed out of those basic forms the effects of light on them are easy to understand

tl;dr read some fucking loomis
>teaching about light
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The first step is to know how to draw and visualize basic three dimensional forms.
The second part is to understand how light works, and how it affects those basic three dimensional forms.
The third part, and the hardest for people like you, is to not be fucking retarded.
Can somebody recommend a good cel shading tutorial? Every time i tried to paint in that style ended up looking like shit, especially the lights and the high lights.

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Is there any actually good art forums that aren't dead?
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>tfw been using deviant art forums for 7 years
>tfw still think its decent and the best option
Ignore and report all avatarfags
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>There will always be some anon that gets triggered and tells you to fuck off
I mean that's the spoof.

Like the point is kind of about being an antagonist that agitates people towards creative production if for no other reason than spite. My messaging is always implicitly to encourage people to be better. This offends a lot of the toxic assholes here and they'll prop me up as a strawman and use my "rules" to derail enough threads that everyone hates me for derailing everything.

I'm not at home but I noticed my threads are nuked so I guess that's that then.

I hope everyone makes it! I want (you) all to be better and do good shit. And /ic/ can be less trash if you stop letting a few malignant autists scare away everyone with their sniveling bitterness and self-destructive spite until the only people left in this boring safe space are anons that are too terrified to have a voice AND show their work.

Been fun! ttyl
You forgot one

>you're still here
>I hope everyone makes it!
you too, jimmy

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In this ITT thread let's discuss the practice and science of drawing in irl life

>What kind of life drawing do you do and where do you do it? Do you crash college classes? Draw people on public transit? etc.

>Any interesting observations, advice or humorous anecdotes you'd like to share?

>What kind of equipment do you use and what's on your art supply wish list?

There's a free community zoo near me that's open all year and I'd like to finally take advantage of that. I'd gone there just once before to draw and it was pretty cool-but what I'd drawn looked even more horrendous than what I usually do. The quadripeds were constantly moving, the gorillas were sleeping but the kids loved them and were climbing over each other to see them, and don't even get me started on the fuckin' giraffes.

There were a lot of people there I should have tried drawing them too but I was having a hard time drawing gibbons and shit. The mini donuts were great though.

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I might crash a figure drawing class in the uni I attend, dunno what to expect of people there, if they will accept me or whatever. I don't belong to their course even remotely, being from stem. How do you guys think Brazilian sjw artists behave like?
Try it and report back. I'm thinking of attending a life drawing session myself but I don't go to any school. I legit think you can just do that though. The worst that could happen is you get booted out anyway, not like they're going to jail you or something.
>>Do you crash college classes?Do people actually do this?

Seen some guy at my school doing life drawing and using student studio space for years. Only now found out he doesn't actually go to the school.

Also saw a girl attending classes despite not being registered.

So....yeah...it does.
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Any fellow /beg/-tier (or extremely patient "better-than-35%-of /ic/-and-up"-tier) Minnesota lads or lasses want to go to Como zoo wednesday morning to draw flowers and animals and shit for a few hours?

Did a figure drawing course last year for two semesters at community college, super good time for drawing nude folks.

More than that though, I gotta commute on the metro (Washington DC metro, mind), so I draw peeps on there in the morning and afternoon, which doubles as a good way to stay awake and not miss my stop. Also live near a few places with coffee shops, parks, and so on, so on any day I have time (moreso recently than say last year, I've been doubling down on life drawing) I'll bum around any of those places and draw people. Also live near the National Zoo, though I haven't been down nearly as often as I should, so you've given me some new lease on that idea.

Not too many stories, but I had a dude ask me to stop drawing him several times and I couldn't hear him cause' headphones and train noise. Only realized what was up when he covered his face with a paper. Was very awkward.

Is there a browser for iphone (yes, I know) that will block these fucking repulsive low iq dickbrain retard ads or do I unironically have to start using one of the dead art boards on 8ch for fear of accidentally clicking on something like this on my overpriced government tracking device?

Every time I open a thread I have faggot shit like this or ostensible 18 year olds that look about as physically mature as 13 year olds forced into frame and it's annoying as fuck. Bring back J-List for fuck's sake; at least on /loomis/ the only ads are for pocket pussies and monster girl porn games
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Fuck off

Phoneposters need to go back to plebbit where they belong
Hey thanks for bumping this thread after the ad has been removed you fucking faggot. Yikes goes in all fields.
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Do your worst, /ic/. I need to know what to fix before being done with this sketch. As for the messiness, don't worry, that'll be cleaned up later. Now please, what's off about the anatomy, perspective and/or composition?
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Is he licking his own balls?
these responses are all so fuckin good, esp the image response. Thank you all lots! I'll make sure to reposition the image :)
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>his upper body pose
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do you think we’ll ever get another one of these
We almost did. JSR ranked second in a poll sega put out to gauge which of its dead franchises it should revive. The winner was sakura taisen, a series that only had its fifth game published in the west, I believe

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.


>screenshot the image and post that instead

>change camera capture settings to something smaller

>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

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Make some of your own.
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You gotta be more careful with your lines. When you're drawing from life, you've got to understand that some lines only really work in the context of the shadow / light patterns near them, so while you may see an edge between two colors, it may not be a good idea to mark it, since it might not make sense without the full context of the other values that surround it.

An example of times where you'd not want to make a mark, is when your resolution simply doesn't allow the amount of precision needed to make such a subtle line - we must not forget that the lines we make have an actual area, and we must play around and be aware of that. A good example of these things is on the wrinkles on the right side of her face (left from our POV), which I'd never mark unless I had a full range of value at my disposal, instead of just black and white. Marking these small creases often gives the impression of a bigger, much deeper crease - as you may be able to see in your own drawing - and will often make the person seem much older as a result.

Another case where you have to be aware of lines, is where the change in color isn't that abrupt - the teeth, for instance. The most I'd do if I were to draw the teeth properly with only outlines, would be to outline the teeth as a whole, but never each individual tooth, because the color between them doesn't allow me to do that, without clashing with the rest of the values on the picture. Another example of this is the eyes - particularly the inside part - which are much more flesh coloured than we may assume, and as a result, many people simply remove that inner outline; and the lips get this treatment often as well.

I hope this was somewhat helpful. I made a shitty version of the picture to exemplify.

Mr. Crab

P.S. if you don't want to draw nosferatu, maybe don't use your mom as reference.
not the same guy but this is really good advice

thank you for posting it
>u instead of you
>wacky lowercase
>passive aggressive insult
>commas instead of dots
i know your kind and how you all type. fucking hivemind, the bunch of you
and as if it doesnt get any more obvious
>link is from tumblr
kill yourself attention whoring roastie

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What is this called and how to make it?
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a mandala?
It's called a phyllotaxis spiral.
How to make it: google how to make a phyllotaxis spiral
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>It's called a phyllotaxis spiral
Thanks guys. It's something I've seen often on psychedelic trips.
No problem, although upon further googling it seems it is a version of the Fibonacci spiral that is seen expressed phyllotactically (leaf arrangement) in nature. Like on succulents. You can also see it looking top-down at a pinecone. So calling it a phyllotactic spiral may not be exactly accurate if it is not actually on a plant. I'm not sure. The term should lead you where you want to go anyway.

I've never tripped but it doesn't surprise me that you would see that since it's natural and mathematical

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>digital art will never be as respected as trad-
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>the idea that it is physical
dude. physical art IS physical
>There is literally no conceptual difference between using a brush or a digital brush
>a [physical] brush
>a digital brush
>LITERALLY no conceptual difference
Anon, I...
Like high priced Warhol paintings aren’t being used for money laundering.

Warhol paintings were peobably being used for money laundering from the start. Hence the reason he made multiples of the same item.
He officially paints x nimber of an item.
He unofficially makes x number more.
He preserves tubes of paint and brushes, pencils or whatever used for signing and numbering the artworks.
Years down the line, someone needs a way to explain a giant payment.
Pull unsigned Wathol out of closet, sign with appropriate material, artificially age signature if necessary.
A new Warhol artists proof has been discovered.
Pay consulting fee to “expert”.
Sell or buy artwork to transfer payment.
Consultation fee or auction fees go to pay the storage organization with the extra Warhols.

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There are at least two dozen different types and varieties of oils used for oil painting.
Pigments vary from supplier to supplier, as far as chemical compossition differences, and grind fineness, which can cause differences in color.
How the pigments were ground will also matter, since different grinding mechanisms might leave chemical traces in the pigments.
Certain pigments can only be used with certain mediums, and should also not be used with certain other pigments, because the pigments can chemically react with each other.
Some pigment react with oil painting mediums and cause the paint to dry faster.
Other things to consider are whether the pigments are opaque or translucent.

There’s far more to oil painting than the above, but there’s still a lot to consider.
guess i better go buy a cintiq
it already has in the form of video and games. if you mean still art then definitely not

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Post em

>tfw to lazy to finish
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Please amputate your dominant hand and stop producing these orangutan's diarrhoea paintings you obnoxious twat
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Will this do, mr cia man?
I don't care where you appropriated your images from or where you started. The project is uninteresting and untransformative. You're probably not learning anything technically either. Mostly I just wish you would stop spamming in unrelated threads
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I can paint left handed too though
>I don't care where you appropriated your images from or where you started.
I don't know who you are, so why would I care if you care?
>The project is uninteresting and untransformative.
thinking of transforming his son into a burrito. Or maybe an anon. idk yet.
>You're probably not learning anything technically either.
Of course I am. You learn everything from everything. Are you the type that does nothing at all and justifies is with this kind of impotent autism?
>Mostly I just wish you would stop spamming in unrelated threads
I posted my selfie portraits first. I "mostly just wish" that buttblasted retards wouldn't derail threads with personal attacks or meta-complaints every time I participate in a thread but that's a bit of a prisoners dilemma isn't it?

I appreciate your feedback on my selfie portrait though. Not sure what your point really was other than that you reflexively DONT do things and you're projecting your insecurity and self-justification at me. If you want to do something, do it. Nobody is ever impressed by how much you justify the things you didn't do because you told yourself it would just be "uninteresting and untransformative."

Sorry you're upset though. Make a painting about it?
>why would I care
Because you keep spamming your images for me and people like me to see. You want your things to be seen, and I assume you're looking for a response of some kind.
>You learn everything from everything
This actually means nothing. I think for a project like this where you are literally just painting video stills at the very least you would need to be able to make them into a satisfying painting. But your paintings make it very obvious that you don't know anything about painting or color or anatomy. You are not going to learn these things by painting screencaps and memes. They are not pleasant to look at and the idea behind them isn't strong enough to make up for that.
Then just post the self-portrait in the self-portrait thread. Don't derail it with your unrelated images. I haven't at all attacked you personally.

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Would modern art have gotten as popular as it did if the CIA didn't prop it up and spread it as a "fuck you" to the USSR art movement?
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Bugmen art was promoted so bugmen could be created
>Thinking that right and left exist seperately
> Doesnt know that all politics are religion
Alledgedly the point, was to produce the view that the Communists in the soviet states were backward bumblefucks, who lacked who could only intellectually understand traditional forms of art, and who lacked the understanding of the philosophy behind modern conceptual forms of art.
It as sort of the hilosiphical art form of dropping oversized comdoms on the Japanese, so they felt inferior to western men, or posting Blacked threads over on /pol/.
As far as whether the art is worth a damn, some of it is, some if it is complete and utter shit.
Inevitably, when you start producing something “new” for propaganda reasons, you start throwing shit at the wall, inevitably, some artistic shit throwers will actually try, and succeed, at making something that looks better that jst shit on a wall. After all, Britain and parts of Europe still have centuries ild buildings that literally have walls made with wattle and daub, which has literal shit in it, and some of the walls are decorative.
based and redpilled
Quads of truth

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What does /ic/ think of my sketch?
I'm a beginner (started maybe 2-3 months ago)
It's not done yet, so things like messy lines and seeping colours will be fixed obviously.
Any criticism welcome!
Heavily based off Canti from FLCL but there's some minor differences.
this doesn't deserve it's own thread
Why not?
Not bad, I'd say add a little texture and some subtle highlights, and also work on the lineart. So far so good

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I'm only /beg/ tier but any retard on this board who is seriously trying to make a career out of art is a fucking moron.

I'm lucky enough to have inherited money and have tons of free time, so I can do art all day long and eventually be good enough to do commissions for pocket change. And that's about the extent of what the rest of you can realistically expect. Art is a fucking luxury of luxuries, no one needs it and way more people make it than buy it. Get a grip and face reality, get that dead end factory job you dumb cunt.
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I first posted my stuff here 3 years ago when I started doing smut commissions.
Today I have a successful career based on Patreon.

Nice bait thread.
being able to create illustration, design or anything else art related will only go up in demand brainlet. being good at art is something that takes a shit ton of time and practice and acting like that isn't a factor just because art isn't a bare necessity is stupid. Why not try to pursue it professionally? This is why begs and crabs stay begs and crabs
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>I'm gonna make it
>you better believe it
I bet you play Fortnite. Guess who makes those assets you dipshit zoomer.
Creating to-order pieces of visual art will be one of the last jobs to become automated, alongside some specific trades like plumbers and electricians. Art is something everyone, EVERYONE needs. The fucking device you used to make this ignorant ass post required an artist to design it. The difference between the hordes of morons vying to get into a company working as an artist and the ones who actually make it isn't the fact that the ones who got in were lucky, it is because they actually had good, consistent work and good connections. It has nothing to do with saturation. Showing me a list of no-credential no-education dropouts trying to work in R&D and then telling me that because a Ph.D got the position that means that R&D is a saturated market you'll never survive in is just evidence of you being underage, and shit at what you do.

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what is better in a drawing,realistic textures or realistic proportions?if you could choose only one what would you prefer to have (i prefer realistic textures) pic unrelated
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Realistic proportions. Realistic textures can put your shit into uncanny valley territory like pic related, but it depends on your style. Post your work, OP.
nintendo needs to get their shit together. they've been pulling this for far too long
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i dont really have anything concrete to show,i draw for fun and i like to keep it that way
this is a scan of a doodle i did out of boredom and then i decided to practice watercolour on it since it was a spare pice of cold pressed watercolour paper (its like 5cm x 5 cm)
Mario has looked the best he's ever looked.
objectively false

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