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hello d/ic/ks , yall know any quick perspective guide grids, structures to draw these jappo mechs
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>>3179008
Yeah just draw boxes
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>>3179008
ill guess ill just use this
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Any thoughts on how necessary it is to learn and master digital art/tools? Obviously it's handy to know how to use Photoshop, etc. But for a career is traditional art illustration fairly niche or "dead"? Obviously for concept art and studio jobs digital is an absolute must. But is it possible to make a career being traditional without already being one of the grand masters like Gurney or Donato?

On a side note, I notice that a lot of people here are really into anime and Eastern-looking art. Thoughts on traditional painting/imaginative realism?
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>>3178346
Don’t be a retard. Paints are expensive.
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>>3178346
>assuming you can learn to layer and mix paint without buying any and experimenting
Don't be silly anon. Even if you understand the theory you're still gonna need a mad amount to git gud. It's not like people can just make their own paints like in ye olde days.
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>y-you need literally thousands of dollars worth of paint to learn the fundamentals of perspective, anatomy, line control and construction!
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>>3178352
>>3178426
i guess. i was more thinking of getting good first, then painting.
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Getting a cintique is going to cost a lot. setting up a small space for painting is going to cost a fair amount as well. Working with a physical medium will probably train your eye to learn colors and value to a finer degree. Unless you're investing thousands in high grade computer displays for perfect greyscales, wide gamut, etc. your budget ips panel is not going to come close to reality. In my opinion that's the main issue with digital art as a medium, nobody has a properly calibrated display. Everyone has a high color temp setting and awful greyscales. Working first in traditional art avails you of the burden of all that technical knowledge that you would need in the digital realm and allows you to focus on the art and skills.
Plenty of people do just fine going digital all the way though, so this is just my idea as to why it might be better to consider traditional first.

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Artgerm
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michelangelo
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mucha
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Sergio Toppi
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>>3172740
I wish i could do this. I get close (with few clean strokes) but my proportions are crazy

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How is your anime art coming along /a/?
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>>3177010

Pretty good except with inking.

I got a G-Pen and a Maru pen. I just can't get the hang of it really. It amazes me seeing mangakas on Youtube ink with such speed and precision.

>>3177015

You can actually attain the same level as the Japanese when it comes to drawing Manga. There's just numerous problems and reasons why you don't see it much I think:

-OEL Manga is not popular other than with other artists who want to do Manga
-"Professional" Manga artists that aren't Japanese tend to have a heavy Western influence in their works
-They don't have high standards for themselves
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>>3177239
Talented people are
>Healthy
>Driven
>Knowledgeable
>Supported by their peers
>Not depressed

There's no magic, just good enviroments. The 18yo with perfect healthy, supporting parents and free time will always learn to draw faster than the 30yo overweight forever alone with two jobs and crippling depression.
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>>3179079
can confirm

just almost finished 2 months of no job because of medical reasons and my imagination drawing improved from ''this is such a chore'' to ''hey, this is starting to get fun''. And in those 2 months everybody has been nice to me and allowed me front seats anywhere since they saw my big ass splint and bandages
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>>3179079

This. Good environment is very important. If you have shit parents who are keeping you down, you gotta leave. If your friends are all druggies, you gotta cut them out of your life.

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For anyone interested in this kind of stuff, I just found some early Rapoza stuff from when he was still amateur. Maybe someone this can inspire some people to see a pros progress.
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>>3178818
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awesome idea for a thread. thanks opanon
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>>3178813
Dave was already working professionally in 2010 though.
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>>3178745
Inspiring.
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>>3178747
Wait, his name is David Rapoza?

I thought he was a Chad, but he was just a Brad all along.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZLWj4hIjzI
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>>3178638
>that part where he critics the reference

I laughed desu
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proko is better than 99% of you, stop bullying him
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>>3177359
Post dic pic
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>>3178704
At copying, yes. At drawing things from imagination, he's actually significantly worse than many posters and would fit right into /beg/.
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>>3178308
Blog?

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I was lurking on the multiple boards this place has to offer, and after witnessing the hundredth drawing with a molded protruding pussy or a woman fighting but still sticking her wet ass out I was wondering:
Isn't it silly for girls to see that? I mean, when the drawing is made to be jerked off on, no problem, but seeing out of place sexual elements in "normal" drawings would appear weird to me if I was a girl.

I just imagined if women decided to do that and start drawing men with dicks molded in a leather pant or touching their sweaty chest while doing anything (I know I know, gay furry people do that already but these are sexual drawings).

Keep in mind I'm talking about fan arts (and official in some situations) not pure ecchi, and I'm not criticizing, I was just wondering. I feel like it makes us appear like we're always thirsty even when we draw.
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>>3175323
>illiterate
You shouldn't use words you don't know because the irony in you correcting him here lmao.
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>>3173086
is that a jew pleading to her executioner
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>>3173033
Sexualization is something the viewer does. The artist may draw a rotten apple and someone sick enough will find it erotic.
There is no use in either trying to entice, or to avoid enticing.
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>>3178804
Google Image search says its a German soldier and his wife
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>>3173033
Doing what women wants is the best way to never get laid.
If someone tells you to do what women say they want as "encouragement to improve your relationships with women", that person is sabotaging your sexuality.

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How do girls draw other girls?
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>>3173385
>people still get this mad at the word cis

incredible stuff
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>>3176246
Shadman's pic of the girl from Logan tied up
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>>3175518

yeah p much
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>>3173369
As they perceive themselves to be.
Unhappy and unattractive women draw ugly tumblr goblins, happy and attractive women draw beautiful girls.
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>>3179087
untrue

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>tfw this is the comic getting the most money on Patreon
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"Jacques makes his living exclusively from QC merchandising and advertising, making him one of the few professional webcomic artists."
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>>3177327
It's exactly 3 year old (first strip on 19th of October 2014) but who can say why something clicks with fans and other don't? Megatokyo is 17 year old and still has fans...

>>3177362
I wonder how many years we have ahead of us before a super-IA generates a webcomic made from analyzing everything popular on the web. And if it will be a big fail despite of being perfectly tuned for mainstream taste.
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>>3177385
Holy hell I love the look of this source please
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>>3175334
66k is a little above average salary. and 40k as a concept artist? what are you even talking about? You think they only make $20 an hour?
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>>3175571
>if you're capable of pandering to hipsters
ftfy

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>Kehinde Wiley chosen as artist for official portrait of Fmr. President Barack Obama

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/16/politics/obama-portraits-kehinde-wiley-amy-sherald/index.html

Haters BTFO on the national stage.
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>>3176072
I was gunning for my nigga illastrat the number one black creative on /ic/ to do the presidential portrait.
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>>3176072
That's pretty racist. He hired some black guy because he was black?
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>>3178690
Also he is appropriating European culture, not cool and quite problematic to be frank.
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>>3178358
my finest work to date, made just for you
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>>3176072
Niggers can't draw. Big woop

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>>3178979
>broad shoulders
>breasts that look like pecs
Is this a tranny?

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Do you think I'm ready to start sending freelance e-mails to small companies that pay around $400 for illustration? I have not worked professionally yet, but I think i'm at the skill where i can start if I build a small portfolio.
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>>3178854
>i believe it's enough to tell one way or the other.

its not
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>>3178840
You posted some unfinished shit with some retarded sketch over the fucking paint, you fucking imbecile.

Can you deliver timely realisation of what the client wants?
>yes
Go work.
>no
Fuck off
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>>3178854
I've hired artists in the past, as an art director. I didn't want to see unfinished work, submitting that would put you in the "don't interview" pile immediately. As an art director, I need to know the following: can you work in the appropriate medium? (I don't want a still wet oil painting showing up) Can you finish work, to the level we require? Can you finish it in the deadlines we set? How effective are you at translating ideas into images?

You're being awfully arrogant, before being hired for a single job. Showing unfinished work is a bad idea, and you're claiming it's enough? Have fun not working as an illustrator. Hell, even student work submitted by a lot of applicants is DONE.

Art directors don't care what you believe is enough - it's more important you believe what they think is enough.
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>>3178840
It does not, no.
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>>3179022
To elaborate: as another poster said, it is sort of muddy. You really need to work on color theroy and getting a sharper line in some areas. Every single shadow is far too blurred.

Anyone here started with pencil and paper and transitioned into digital later on?

I'm much more accustomed to paper and prefer to learn that way, but are there things to worry about regarding transition? Is it as easy as merely getting used to your tools? How was your transition?

I'm guessing that I should start off with digital right off the bat to get used to the tablet/software, but I always get frustrated and return to paper. Should I just suck it up?
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>>3178881
Learn how to draw, it doesn't even matter which medium as long as you learn how to draw. It's all the same in the end anyways.
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The same thing happen to me and it was a painful experience.
The best advice I can give you is: draw on paper and scan your line work and hen paint the digital thing.
Forget the things you're used to when it comes o traditional, like don't bother mixing colors, digital can't replicate that, or making elaborated textures, they won't look as good on digital
Most digital resources are aimed at people who has never used any other medium so they are filled with dumb basic stuff that you probably already mastered in traditional media, just live up with the shit and take the best out of it.
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>>3178881
Try Art Rage
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I transitioned from paper to digital. Honestly, getting used to your tools is literally the secret of digital art. It's kinda weird at first, but it becomes second nature after a while.

Plus you don't have to keep buying supplies like paper and all that.
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>>3178937
I honestly don't think you know how to use your programs if you think you cant mix colors or add textures.

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Anybody working on comics and such? I recently entered into a doujin market (futaket) and I'm working on my first doujinshi.

This is a lot harder than I thought it would be.
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>>3175647
I hope this is going to be lewd.
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>>3175629
>I came here expecting good comics with beautiful art and elaborate writing

From 4chan? Really?
After seeing the op image? Really?
You know what you clicked on.
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>>3175647
this is fuckinng awesome anon
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>>3175629
hail fellow pisstrooper
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>>3168307
Good news, I might change it to focus purely on blowjobs since I enjoyed a good blowjob-only doujin recently.

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Just some random art I did.
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I'm gonna overlook your inability to do something as simple as flip a picture and cut to the chase - were you even looking at Bolland's drawing? Never mind the fact you try to pass off one of the most iconic Joker illustrations of all time as 'just some random art'

Your lines are chicken scratchy and completely lack depth. Were you trying to replicate Bolland's piece, or simply imitate it in your style?
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eh
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>>3178642
You must be 18 to post here.
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>>3178642
Holy shit you're fat. Kill yourself my dude



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