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What are the best resources to learn art?

don't simply @loomis me.
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>>3483362
thanks
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>>3483362
this kind of makes sense, i tried getting into fun with a pencil but the god damn face perspectives killed my vibe and will to draw
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Don't read Loomis, is just a waste of time.
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>>3483138
youtube
>KNKL
>moderndayjames

teachers (& their books)
>michael hampton
>scott robertson

keeping my recommended lists short because i know too much choice can be overwhelming
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Loomis is a waste of time and nobody had ever even heard of him until a few years ago.

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So what exactly makes Ruan Jia's rendering so good? It seems to be something complex that I have yet to see something like that in other people's work.
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Here's the start of a background for all the anons who thought the black background was uglier than sin. Still wip.
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>>3483877
>>3484163

hey I saw your deviant knight somewhere, and I was one of the guys who criticized you above, The critique still stays, you're a decent artist and I think you can learn much more, but work on your ego (even though you might think that everyone is trolling you). You really come off as that typical beg high-nose guy who thinks of everyone else as unworthy peasants, and you yourself might be completely oblivious to it. It will also ensure you a smooth interaction between clients and holding new contacts.

As for your current work, if you'll allow me:

What's immediately apparent from the thumbnail, the posture or rather placement of the figure, is tilted too much forward. The legs are fine, but the torso and head need to go back right (either liquify or cut/paste), this will also improve on the composition.

I've painted quite a lot of armor, remove the black edge at the knight's back, shoulder plate, cape, foot, instead apply fresnel to the far edge of the metal and let it smooth in into the background. Metal is typical that it features the darkest parts right next to highlights, so that pure black edge has nothing to do there, but if you want you can spice up those terminators up a bit.
The metal?guard around his/her neck seems more like skin, try to give a clear distinction between forms, throw in some edges to make it seem layered.
And another thing I'd recommend, and this is really just personal preference, I dislike lifeless colors and the lack of temperature, give it a clear distinction of planes with some warm colors from beneath. cheers
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ruan jia is incredibly skilled but his designs are so generic it's painful
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>>3483877
After seeing a little more I stand by my assessment. In a year you could definitely produce images right around Ruan's level.
It sounds like you already have a plan but just from an outsider perspective there are 3 things I would like to see you work on.
Your structure is a little wonky. Not much but enough to detract in my opinion. I'd suggest doing a lot of exercises on geometric form and geometric shapes in perspective and different angles.
Study color theory and do exercises with that on simple shapes.
Lastly, your figures are lacking gesture and look stiff. They're not as stiff as I consider Ruan's work to be which is the thing I like more about your work. This is totally subjective on my part but I would really like to see you be able to do the rendering style on lively looking things, so I hope you'll work on gesture even though it's not totally necessary for mimicking Ruan.
Good luck dude, I hope we see great things from you.
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>>3481424
Right, you have to wipe the shit from your eyes then look.

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How does one achieve this beauty and is it possible digitally?
This thread is dedicated to beautiful background art and deciphering what it is that makes it so special.
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>is it possible to paint or draw digitally
no it's impossible sorry
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>>3485218
if you ever touched a computer in your life you can't paint again, anon.

ファイアースネーク

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im learning to deal with colors , could you send some portraits of people with interesting lights (like the examples and free of use if possible) - i will draw and post them (ill do like a dozen and ill select the most interesting ones so keep them going if you have more)
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>>3478310
Do these two
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>>3483928
or do her
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>>3483910
This is my first ever color study and I gotta say colors are fucking weird. I didn't use the eyedropper but instead tested color after color against the photo and used the ones that matched, by the end I could get it in the first 4 tries.
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>>3485238
color studies aren't the best to do from selfies like this but I do agree that colors are fucking weird
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>>3485238
when the pot brownie hits you

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Last thread >>3427285

A new one? Already? edition.

>2D Animation on Youtube

AMB Animation Academy
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYOBCjdAoAjbKsk4NG7h_WJ9CX7F5zfUe

SBW Workshop
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1G92gHt-pRPwIwtANHmDvX_jV0Q8u1J5

Aaron Blaise
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnwHSDbcd45J_4lXT0GgPHbm4mlXEtAJX


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>>3482750
Good luck because I'll be hard to beat...
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>>3483548
I tried animating the same action to act as a kind of 'redline.' Sometimes seeing how other people would tackle the same movements can help add some context to what you're doing, but mine's is pretty different so I wouldn't necessarily follow it for the drawings/poses, but rather the feeling/timing.

I think the biggest thing that you've got to think about is treating the body as a full unit as opposed to a bunch of limbs stuck together - if the arms are raising, what happens to the shoulders? If the weight is shifting from one foot too another, how does the body compensate? Or something like that. Keep fooling around for now.
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>>3483442 anon here.
Tried again with video ref and vanishing points that are further away this time.

I think it looks better.
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>>3484750
It should fall faster when it's get hit.
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>>3484750
i like it. if i was gonna be nitpicky i would suggest a bit more work on the timing, maybe. also it looks like it gets a little longer after it's hit.

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I draw from real life and try to replicate it the best I can, so I guess you could say my style is run-of-the-mill realistic. I'm just tired of seeing shittily drawn anime/manga. I decided to give one anime style it a try to see if it's as difficult as some make it look like. Anyway, tell me what i could do better and if I should start on that path if i have potential.
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>>3484669
The shoulders are wrong. If you really want to go "realistic" study more anatomy.
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>>3484675
kek
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This style looks like the anime art thats typically drawn by teenage girls who binge anime desu
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>>3485100
as opposed to the shit here drawn by neckbeards who binge moe anime
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>>3485204
meh both styles are pretty generic either way, I really don't give much of a shit about anime art, so I was just going off initial thoughts

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If a client commissions you to draw something for them, and if they end up liking the end result, do they still have to pay you? Even if they paid half that amount upfront, do they get that money back?

I've had this convo with a couple of artists. One said they would only keep the down payment, while another said the client should pay the full amount because you still put time and effort into the piece. Someone else, who wasn't an artist, felt a client should get a full refund if they feel they didn't get what they paid for.

Thoughts? Opinions?
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>>3484963
/thread
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>>3484995
First you need followers. At least 500 or something on Tumblr.

Then you need to be good enough, that goes without saying. No one commissions shitty artists.

Draw fanart of popular stuff to get attention and more followers.

If you're drawing porn, this is it. If not drawing porn, then you definitely need to have a "unique" art "style". You need to offer something that no one else does exactly like you.

Also, look at other artists' price charts and terms of service and copy the things you want to apply to you. DON'T skip out on terms of service, communication is key in this business.

Also, use PayPal invoices.
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>>3484958
That wonder woman looks like she has some huge boobs just out of frame.
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>>3485001
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Surprisingly, at many stores, they actually do refund food, as long as you give it back to them to throw away
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This is how it goes with NEW FREELANCERS (not yet "known" professionals):
>Client pays half up front
>Artist beings work
>Artist sends client updates throughout the work
--At this point if the client is not happy the artist and client should end their relationship. Really, the artist should keep the money but they usually won't because they are so self concious about not making the client happy
Then-
>Artist finishes work
>Artist sends client LOW RES FILE (It should be always low res files up to this point
>Client pays FULL AMOUNT
>Artist then sends Full Resolution file.

Please take it from me I am a profreshional and done this many times

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So how far will this book actually take me? Where are the REAL books that teach how to actually draw and paint?
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>>3484198
>Will get you started
Boy, you finish at least two of this and you're heads and tails above most to the point where you can do whatever the fuck you want while applying the basics here and just keep getting better.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQtvstrkPU0
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Real life will tech you the things you need to know, stop falling into the grind/ loomis meme.
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>>3484198
I disagree in that you shouldn't treat it like a linear process
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>>3484192
what possessed you to think books and youtube videos are enough to get good?

What do you think of wlop's art?

https://youtu.be/ohkV6ddaLWo
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>>3484309
>don't photobash unlike 999% of artists
>newfags are so easily impressed

hate to break it to ya, but there are tens of thousands of artists out there who have never touched tracing or photobashing at all. Stop sucking this guys dick dawg, you're portraying him like some spirit animal
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>>3484609
I don't even think hes impressive. all of his faces look like theyre melting off- lopsided, sloppy perspective. definitely more talented than my ass no question. but I think there are better artists to learn from.
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>>3484552
No one is going to be painting traditionally. Do you even realise how much it costs to get the shit to paint traditionally?
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>>3485188
of course not
he's probably momatard
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>>3484591
Literally unaplicable in digital for there is no actual paint and canvas involved nor is there a program that can replicate it in any significant way.
Useless

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Pr0n Thread
Thread for those who enjoy drawing pornographic images
Rules and Guidelines:
-Hide images you don't wish to view, etc, etc.
-Absolutely NO furry in these threads.
-Please refrain from posting NSFW images of underage characters(loli/shota)
-Post finished works and W.I.P's here for critique.
Any questions in regards to reference materials will be answered.

Dedicated thread sticky- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#
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>>3484906
what's shit about the perspective? i'm not seeing it.
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>>3484998
the head is in a different perspective from the body and if shes sposed to be tilting her head back its just not reading
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Update
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Blocked in the shadows.
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>>3485109
work on the head
her eyes are very uneven, maybe make the iris/pupil rounder on the left eye? it's wider and more ovalish than her right eye so it looks uneven

also yeah this may be your style, but work on simpifying the hair, drawing every strand especially for someone like you who does thick lineart looks very off putting. draw the general shape of the hair rather than each strand

the skirt is very bad, sorry to say. either learn how actual cloth ruffles or simplify it. you're not at the level to draw all those complex wrinkles yet

the right arm is farther in view but you drew it bigger than the left and that's a problem, shrink it a bit

the legs look good, the shape of them is pretty spot on. don't add much more detail

the hat looks good, and it's at the right angle

the dick and balls are also very well drawn and at the accurate angle. i suggest you keep it simple as well and don't add many more details to them

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I just received a $800 tablet to my home adress, shit's from amazon, bitch please, what the HECK. Feelin cray on fleek right now
Some white boi came to my place tryna convince me it was his but nuh-uh, that white boi ain't getting none of that dough, so I told him him I didn't get shit. Just finessed that white boi, i'ma sell that shit on ebay now.
You go, giiiirl
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>>3484724
i wish i had an $800 drawing tablet, i've been using the same crusty scratched up tablet for 5 years

i seriously need a sugur daddy to suck dry for money
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>>3484724
>>3484620
The shit, is this the same story?
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>>3484724
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>>3484724
This is why people hate niggers.
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>>3485177
When you're too autistic to get the joke

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Post traditional work. Ask questions. Whatever. Digital art done plein air doesn't count for anything so don't post it.
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Posting an update on progress with this one.
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>>3485037
Fuck
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>>3484866
btw I don't spell my name with an "i".
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>>3484866
>>3485044
I'm just kiddin guys <3
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>>3480950
>>3480950
Thanks dude, I will fuck around with an old set of landscape pastels I bought about a decade ago, and post here have some time in this weekend

>>3481137 I like the critique, but it's a pretty small charcoal drawing I will correct it when I can find it.

Posting lost wax dental bridge cast in gold and metal finished, not really related to art fag shit.

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I think it would be interesting to see how people here would draw manga characters with their own style, don't need to be exactly the character from the pic, feel free to add another one. Lets have fun!
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not a very good painter but i gave it a shot
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You just had to clean it...
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>>3484404
ouch
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Welp I gave it a shot. What ever happened to Bleach anyways? I have no clue who this character is

F
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>>3483547
didnt the gorilla also draw
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It's related to art.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCeVY30YEM0

Did Koko learn from Vilppu or Loomis more?
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Jesus... how much do I need to grind to get to this level? Pink Pink Stink Nice Drink is a masterpiece
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>>3483990
Unironically nice colors
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https://www.koko.org/gorilla-art-0

her gorilla friend Michael was better than 90% of /ic/



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